It is told about Yeltsin’s refusal to call Dudaev before the war in Chechnya

On the pages of the portal "Lenta.ru" appeared material under the loud name "It became known about the tragic phrase of Yeltsin before the Chechen war." The material refers to a statement by Valery Borshchev, a former deputy of the State Duma of the Russian Federation, co-chair of the Moscow Helsinki Group.

According to Borshchev, which are given on "Tape.ru", President Boris Yeltsin refused to call Dzhokhar Dudaev, who at that time was the leader of the self-proclaimed "Chechen Republic of Ichkeria."

Why Boris Yeltsin should have called Dzhokhar Dudaev, and not vice versa, Borshchev did not report. But he claims that "neither the Russian nor the Chechen military" wanted to allow the war. According to the ex-deputy of the State Duma of the Russian Federation, “the parties held informal negotiations,” during which Dudaev allegedly abandoned the idea of ​​Chechnya leaving the Russian Federation.

Borshchev:

After that, deputy Sergei Kovalev went to Yeltsin, who persuaded him to call Dudaev in order to prevent the outbreak of war. However, the president replied: "Not yet time."

Based on this statement, it seems that it is proposed to conclude that the war in Chechnya began in 1994 only because Yeltsin "did not call Dudaev in a timely manner."

For some reason, the fact that by that time the North Caucasus was already a field of active activity of foreign special services and emissaries of international terrorist groups is out of the question.

Comments

[georggy]

I doubt that someone missed these faces.

[Alexander Petrov1]

Perhaps Yeltsin did not call because, as always, he could not raise his head after binge !?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Alexander Petrov1

Perhaps Yeltsin did not call because, as always, he could not raise his head after binge !?

Ambition is above common sense, like all stupid people "You will not mind who he is, but who am I, do you see the difference?" And how many of these monsters were put on our Russian people.

[Thrall]

statement by Valery Borshchev

Does anyone else believe this miracle in feathers?

[Tatyana]

Our "shitcrats" can't really believe in anything.

First, the Russian genocide in Ichkeria under the regime of Maskhadav-Dudaev in 1992-1994. was EXTREMELY!
And secondly, the sheer scale of crime, as such, in the Chechen Republic in 1992-1994 still can not be accurately accounted for.
Almost daily, firing from various types of weapons is conducted, explosions are recorded, and serious crimes are recorded. According to operational data from the Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs, in 1992-1993, up to 600 intentional killings were committed annually in Chechnya. From the testimony of witnesses (“White Book”, 1995)

In addition, I have a book "The Criminal Regime. Chechnya, 1991-1995." 1995 release.

This is a collection that contains factual materials submitted by the Public Relations Centers of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Federal Grid Company, as well as the Information and Press Department of the Russian Ministry of Defense, documents, letters and testimonies of citizens, and various media reports on the crisis in Chechnya from 1991-1995, which provide insight about the criminal, anti-people regime that prevailed in the Chechen Republic during the reign of Dudaev.

[Leeds]

Meanwhile, on December 31.12.94, 01.01.95-500-XNUMX, XNUMX, about XNUMX soldiers and officers died. And this rot, refused to call.

[hohkn]

Quote: Leeds

Meanwhile, on December 31.12.94, 01.01.95-500-XNUMX, XNUMX, about XNUMX soldiers and officers died. And this rot, refused to call.

Do you see any kind of causal relationship here? The death of such a large number of people is primarily to blame for the military leaders who stupidly organized the assault on the city.
I’m not going to justify Yeltsin, but this jamb is still not his. And the group in North Ossetia stood back in 1993 precisely in connection with the events taking place in Chechnya. And slaves from Chechnya were pulled back in early 1992. I personally accompanied one such person.

[x.andvlad]

This is what happens when power-hungry, narrow-minded, proud turkeys. Behind their imaginary significance, such people see nothing beyond their nose and today's satisfaction.
Elkin thought that by destroying everything Soviet he would bring good. And on building for the future, he lacked a little intelligence. Hence the consequences: the Chechen war, crises in the economy and the army, the problem of Crimea, and much more that the country's president had to solve and provide for.
In my opinion, this drunk has done more harm to the country than any good.
PS: Although I will not hide the fact that at one time I voted for him.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Alexander Petrov1

Perhaps Yeltsin did not call because, as always, he could not raise his head after binge !?

But if you think about it - what could he say in principle? Would he threaten? Yes, they would have sent him into the distance, and that’s all.

[skif8013]

The most shameful era of our country. I am ashamed for these two of one drunk - the conductor and the second woe - the reformer. I hope they come around.

[Vend]

Quote: Alexander Petrov1

Perhaps Yeltsin did not call because, as always, he could not raise his head after binge !?

Maybe after 50 years they will remove the fingerboard secretly and then we will find out

[Civil]

And now nothing has changed; they are measured by their importance to the detriment of national interests.

[Cut Samshitov]

remember ... a disgrace.

[Gray brother]

Quote: george

I doubt that someone missed these faces.

This is the face of the radical Russian liberda that has seized power.

[Mestny]

No.
This is the face of the "communists" who destroyed the country in front of this, and urgently repainted themselves white.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Mestny

before this ruined country,

They didn’t ruin the country, but divided state property among themselves. This is if you look at the root.

[Mestny]

These are the details.
The result was an epic tearing of the results of persistent, with sweat, tears and blood, labor of many generations.

[Hunter 2]

The war in Chechnya began with the drunken conspiracy of the traitors Yeltsin, Kravchuk and Shushkevich in Belovezhskaya Pushcha ... the collapse of the Great Country. 1994, the beginning of hostilities - this is a consequence of the specified Betrayal!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Hunter 2

The war in Chechnya began with the drunken conspiracy of the traitors Yeltsin, Kravchuk and Shushkevich in Belovezhskaya Pushcha ... the collapse of the Great Country.

The war should have begun, in Chechnya or elsewhere, but it should have begun.

[Boozer]

I support. Ukraine is an example of this. When hostilities go, it’s easier to stay in power. And the attention of the electorate is distracted. There is someone to blame and make extreme. Under the guise of unpopular reforms to carry out. Tighten the nuts. Soak in the toilet those who cannot be soaked in peacetime. And emissaries and agents were, are and will be. And on both sides. They have such a job.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Boozer

I support. Ukraine is an example of this.

It is good that the war did not start there in the 90s.

[DRM]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: Hunter 2

The war in Chechnya began with the drunken conspiracy of the traitors Yeltsin, Kravchuk and Shushkevich in Belovezhskaya Pushcha ... the collapse of the Great Country.

The war should have begun, in Chechnya or elsewhere, but it should have begun.

I support. The contradictions between the local elites (sawing up the former USSR) by that time had accumulated mass. Somewhere was supposed to jerk. And it exploded.

[NKT]

The situation in Chechnya began to get out of control of the authorities in 1989-90. After August 1991, everything was left to chance.

[4ekist]

It all started much earlier, even under Leonid Ilyich, and even earlier.

[Mountain shooter]

Russia was "tried on the tooth" ... They tried it seriously. There were separatist sentiments in the Urals, in Kazan, I generally keep quiet about the Caucasus. Dagestan wanted to "explode" ... It turned out in Chechnya ... A lot of blood ... If only a part of this blood was taken, and the "Yeltsin Center" was smeared, so that all visitors could SEE what these m ... The words are not censored pick up ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Russia was "tried on the tooth" ... They tried it seriously. There were separatist sentiments in the Urals, in Kazan, and I generally keep quiet about the Caucasus. Dagestan wanted to "explode" ... In Chechnya it turned out ... A lot of blood ..

They wanted to tear at the living, in pieces, the tactics of the Anglo-Saxon jackals, which were swallowed by our pooch. There are no monuments to the great Lenin and Stalin in Russia, but there is a whole complex to the greatest traitor of Russia, Boris Yeltsin, there is no such complex in the world. This is how the "Golden Capital" values ​​its mongrels. Soon they will put up another monument to the next mongrel (MSG did not work for the complex).

[Stas157]

Quote: tihonmarine

There are no monuments to the great Lenin and Stalin in Russia, but but there is a whole complex to the biggest traitor Russia Boris Yeltsin

Why did they build it? Who needs it? They say to the people that there is no money, and at EBN-Center they killed 14 billion.

[Mestny]

You have outdated information.
There is money. They can’t spend it - it’s impossible to steal, but it is necessary to build it.

[Stas157]

Quote: Mestny

You have outdated information.
There is money. Can not spend

I know what it is. But why do not they return the pensions? Or, as far as the people are concerned, there is no money, but as for the hotel or the ticket, you are always welcome!

For your reference, the EBN Center was built in 2014-2015. Then, indeed, the budget was in deficit. But they do not regret money for the "holy".

[Mestny]

I know.
There is not only state money.
Well, what can we do? We have citizens in Russia who need it. A lot of people go there? A lot of. Well, where to put them? They are the same citizens as the communists say.
This is the difficulty, our country is so ... diverse.

[Stas157]

Quote: Mestny

Well, what to do - we have citizens in Russiawho need him. ... They are the same citizens, as the communists say.

Who are they?

[Mestny]

Those who need the Yeltsin Center. Those who want to return the USSR. Finally, those who now really live and with troit without "isms" and lamentations for the glorious past.
They are all citizens.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Mestny

Those who need the Yeltsin Center. Those who want to return the USSR.

Which USSR? Surround - you still write about the return to socialism.
This is just a rewriting of history at the expense of the state, only the grandmother was given to the most frostbitten liberda, and these stoned ones have a wonderful property - everything they undertake turns into a "secondary product". Schoolchildren are dragged there on excursions in order to powder their brains, a normal person can go there only with the purpose of mocking.

[Mestny]

If you are not in the know, I inform you that we have a lot of people confident that we must destroy everything and immediately begin to build the USSR. This is such a distorted idea that they were flooded with propagandists of social justice and other political chimeras.
But they are, and they are citizens. Like the builders of the Yeltsin Center.

[Stas157]

Quote: Mestny

Those who need the Yeltsin Center.

Write more specifically. Those who need this anti-popular center, they all sit in the Kremlin. They conceived it. They built it. Together with the main thing. Not a single official from the Kremlin will ever say that the monument to Borka the destroyer is not needed by the people. On the contrary, every year regularly, Kremlin flowers are laid on the grave of an alcoholic. Tribute and honors are given.

[Mestny]

Is it empty? Only "those who built it" go there?
No need to shout for all the people. He is different.
I’m talking about this to you, but you don’t hear me.

[Stas157]

Quote: Mestny

No need to shout for all the people. He is different.

You always stoke for the power of the capitalists. Those above us. And you yourself, for EBN Center or against? Share your frankness.

[Mestny]

I'm against.
But I am not against those who are for him. We live in one country, walk along the same streets.

[Stas157]

Quote: Mestny

I'm against.
But I am not against those who are for him.

That's just what I wanted to ask about! How do you manage to drown all the time for the ruling elite, but at the same time have different views? Fiercely hate liberals, but vote for the main liberal (as he calls himself)?

[Mestny]

Yes, because there are no absolute villains, no radiant warriors of light.
Only in children's movies.
When I was 18 years old, I was probably as categorical as you. But that was a very long time ago. The older you are, the more shades you begin to discern.
The "main liberal" is not only a liberal. And Grudinin is not only a communist.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Stas157

Not a single official from the Kremlin will ever say that the monument to Borka the destroyer is not needed by the people. On the contrary, every year regularly, Kremlin flowers are laid on the grave of an alcoholic. Tribute and honors are given.

I perfectly understand why this is all, it's not even about officials, but about the beneficiaries of the redistribution of state property - the capitalists as such, they are terribly afraid of losing the "overwhelming".
But in my opinion, everything was done there so clumsy that it causes the opposite effect)))
Put flowers - do not put, zero sense. It's like with Stalin - the more dirt is poured on him, the more popular he is among the people.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Stas157

Why did they build it? Who needs it? They say to the people that there is no money, and at EBN-Center they killed 14 billion.

Who needs this monument complex, he paid the construction costs.

[4ekist]

To get kickbacks.

[snake]

Quote: Stas157

People say no money

"Who needs" money has ...

[Amateur]

co-chair of the Moscow Helsinki Group.

one of the employees of the British embassy was accused of espionage. It was also said that he was involved in financing Russian non-profit organizations - the Moscow Helsinki Group and the Eurasia Foundation. The television channels ORT and NTV commented on this topic.
To the correspondents of the Russian newspaper who asked for clarification, the FSB provided a copy of the financial report on the transfer of £ 23 to the Moscow Helsinki Group, signed by Mark Dow [000]. Earlier, FSB officers confirmed to RIA Novosti news agency that the payment for the indicated amount was made, the money was transferred to the Moscow Helsinki Group [40].

Not a good office.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Amateur

Not a good office.

Once I read a material in which they were crying that they were getting a "beggarly by Moscow standards" salary of 65 thousand rubles and the scoundrel Putin does not give them money.

[Vitaly Tsymbal]

I don't see the point in this article! Everyone knows (who cares) how Chechnya began and who was behind it. They know by their last names. And the fact that someone called or did not call someone did not matter anymore. Chechnya began in 92, when the drunk announced "take as much sovereignty as you want," this provoked ethnic conflicts on the territory of the Russian Federation, and the central government did not want to protect its citizens, fulfilling obligations to the United States about the collapse and destruction of the USSR ...

[rocket757]

“It became known about Yeltsin’s tragic phrase before the start of the Chechen war.”

This is just, just ... the tragedy took place much earlier! Although, it’s better to call DUAL UNUSUAL, which has rolled over all our people!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: rocket757

Although, it’s better to call DUAL UNUSUAL, which has rolled over all our people!

This is where the huge power of propaganda is visible. And we all wonder what happened to the Ukrainians.

[rocket757]

Quote: tihonmarine

This is where the huge power of propaganda is visible.

Conversations, conversations ... and it turned out to be propaganda!
The tops wanted !!! and the lower classes like these, which have a herd instinct ... because before that, personalities were not brought up, but the very ones that strictly keep up! So everyone flew into the leg, stepping in order, and those who tried not to keep up ??? so we build them in the same place! because out of action just WASN’T!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: rocket757

So everyone flew into the leg, stepping in order, and those who tried not to keep up ???

Using the lowest human instinct for "greed", the propaganda did not have to make much effort. We all bought into the slogan "Let's live like in the West".

[rocket757]

Quote: tihonmarine

Using the lowest human instinct for "greed", the propaganda did not have to make much effort. We all bought into the slogan "Let's live like in the West".

But so much could be learned and learned by carefully reading our literature, and foreign too !!!
Let's remember BURATINO "show him a copper penny and do what HOSH with him!" or remember About Henry "The Trust That Burst" and much more like that!
Any associations do not arise?
Personally, I have never come across a single divorce and helped others avoid this .... I just read a lot and REMEMBERED! And then the memory and common sense will help us all!
True, in those "slender ranks" I was brought in the same place as everyone else ... this could not be avoided, just as I did not "kick".
Such is la la vie ... I always say that there is no superfluous, useless knowledge!
Now, I’m teaching the same kids, my wards. I hope in life it will be useful to them.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: rocket757

Such is se la vie ... I always say that there is NO EXTRAORDINARY, useless knowledge

And the best thing is when you learn not from books, but from your own and strangers, when you see life from the inside out, and you teach others yourself.

[rocket757]

Quote: tihonmarine

And the best thing is when you learn not from books, but from your own and strangers, when you see life from the inside out, and you teach others yourself.

So in books there are examples, even in fairy tales ... you just need to remember and build associative chains in time. In life, too, you can learn a lot ... extra knowledge, like skills, does not happen.

[cniza]

Yeah, nonsense, and partners have worked wonderfully ... Greetings!

[rocket757]

Quote: cniza

Yeah, nonsense, and partners have worked wonderfully ... Greetings!

Hello Victor
As they say, not stupid such people, DURY is a complex concept ...
And it was not possible to breed stupid, educated, and politically savvy people into all sorts of stupid things!
A whole nation, but not one, was bred on a sweet western crap !!! Now many are groaning and gasping, but how did it work then? They promised milk rivers and jelly banks, sprinkled with sugar on top !!! but got a layered ... guano, most. Those who were in courses, quicker, bolder, got everything they wanted ... not all were kept afloat either !!! so around such sharks swam to capitalism, to them our carp for one tooth!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: rocket757

Those who were in courses, quicker, bolder, got everything they wanted ... not all were kept afloat either !!! so around such sharks swam to capitalism, to them our carp for one tooth!

As always with big fishing "The main thing is to string good bait on the hook."

[rocket757]

"Sweet bait" or the shine of gold / bucks eclipsing everything around!
Nothing new, STANDARD! The scheme was worked out by more than one generation of swindlers / deceivers of various poshib.

[Ross xnumx]

For some reason, the fact that by that time the North Caucasus was already a field of active activity of foreign special services and emissaries of international terrorist groups is out of the question.

And why no one will tell why Chechnya has become a field of active activity of foreign special services? Why did they direct their efforts here and who was so clever who decided that it was Dudayev who was able to "conquer" Russia?
A marine brigade was based on the Kola Peninsula in the village of Sputnik, and I had to have conversations with participants in the events of that time (immediately after the business trip), the essence of which was to intervene in the conduct of military operations of incomprehensible political figures. There were guys who asked for a business trip for the second time ... As there were cases of the detention in Titovka of people of Caucasian nationality who were going to visit relatives (families) of the participants in the events ...
"Rolling into stones completely" is a reality that could comprehend all terrorists and their accomplices ... But only housing in London and GB-citizenship were not given for this ...
In a word, from EBN there was the same statesman as from ... HMS, only bolder and with different support. There was no swagger of this person. You can even trace how his speech changed with age ...
It was not for nothing that the Dolls program appeared at that time ...

[cniza]

For some reason, the fact that by that time the North Caucasus was already a field of active activity of foreign special services and emissaries of international terrorist groups is out of the question.

This, in the West, will be diligently hushed up ...

[Aviator_]

"Deputy Sergei Kovalyov" is a well-known liberal "human rights activist". Like all "human rights activists" for their activities, they are worthy of the VMN.

[NKT]

That misunderstanding, which only touch a wand .....
He cannot be forgiven for Chechnya, as well as his phrases about the Nuremberg trials and the Nord-Ost.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: NKT

He cannot be forgiven for Chechnya, as well as his phrases about the Nuremberg trials and the Nord-Ost.

You can not forgive the one who allowed him to power, he had to sit in prison.

[Nestorych]

For some reason, the fact that by that time the North Caucasus was already a field of active activity of foreign special services and emissaries of international terrorist groups is out of the question.

So foreign intelligence services and emissaries were in Moscow and in the Kremlin!))))

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Nestorych

So foreign intelligence services and emissaries were in Moscow and in the Kremlin!

Yes, everyone knew about it, but everyone was silent.

[valeryb]

Quote: Nestorych

So foreign intelligence services and emissaries were in Moscow and in the Kremlin!))))

In those days, emissaries of the south-west from Chechnya to Armenia walked around Moscow and concluded contracts for the supply of weapons. There are some that have profited from that. And now, of course, Yeltsin and Gorbach. But the barrels themselves roll and roll. An investigation was needed, who sold and with whom he shared. But is it possible that someone else is capable of this? Mikhani alone.

[rotmistr60]

One grant-eater (co-chairman of the Moscow Helsinki Group) suddenly decided to recall his fellow-in-arms in meanness: the former alcoholic president, a "human rights activist" who branded Russian soldiers and defended the bandits and the main Chechen bandit. What is it for? Nostalgia for the past profitable days or something else?

[Uh Neuhov]

What to call? It was necessary to immediately send special forces to Chechnya to restore order as soon as they began to harass, kill Russian-speaking and supporters of Russia. At the very top, they turned a blind eye to this. Meanwhile, Dudayev was gaining strength and greater authority, now in some countries there are street names in his honor, turned into a hero. Yeltsin was supposed to rot in prison for such a first Chechen war, during which he killed the Russian military and separated Chechnya from Russia.

[Mordvin 3]

statement by Valery Borshchev, former deputy of the State Duma of the Russian Federation ...
Deputy Sergey Kovalev

On the second, the rope has been crying for a long time.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Mordvin 3

On the second, the rope has been crying for a long time.

Surprisingly, how do they get into deputies?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: tihonmarine

how do they get in deputies?

And FIG knows who votes for such.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Mordvin 3

And FIG knows who votes for such.

Precisely "The family has its black sheep."

[faterdom]

He also did not want to call Basayev - he went to Halifax in Canada and there complained to the GXNUMX that the terrorists had seized the city from him. Here is a "Supreme Commander-in-Chief" ...
And Chernomyrdin called and decided to release Basayev from the mousetrap. Another "leader of free Russia".
Chernomyrdin also provided guarantees to Milosevic on behalf of the "world community." Which blew them both happily.
Our foreign minister, Ivanov, also persuaded Shevarnadze and the leader of the practically third independent republic in Georgia, Aslan Abashidze, to cede the arrogant demands of the self-proclaimed president Saakashvili. And he took this Zviadist, who, naturally, has never been pro-Russian, to live in Moscow. And this was no longer under Yeltsin ...
Do you still believe that we had a foreign policy? Yes, we worked at the State Department flying forward our own screech!
"I was deceived" is called.

[Maalkavianin]

Something lately has become frequent about Yeltsin. Not good.

[Alsur]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Russia was "tried on the tooth" ... They tried it seriously. There were separatist sentiments in the Urals, in Kazan, and I generally keep quiet about the Caucasus. Dagestan wanted to "explode" ... In Chechnya it turned out ... A lot of blood ..

They wanted to tear at the living, in pieces, the tactics of the Anglo-Saxon jackals, which were swallowed by our pooch. There are no monuments to the great Lenin and Stalin in Russia, but there is a whole complex to the greatest traitor of Russia, Boris Yeltsin, there is no such complex in the world. This is how the "Golden Capital" values ​​its mongrels. Soon they will put up another monument to the next mongrel (MSG did not work for the complex).

You have a great mountain of Paphos, I don’t know how in Russia, but in Russia, you are either standing in front of the Lenin monument or from Ukraine, then you yourself demolished them.

[Andrey VOV]

Much has been written in the comments, and a lot is not the case, but as usual blah blah blah, but no one remembered today today is exactly 25 years of the first assault on Grozny when Grachev eventually abandoned his tank officers .... and Kovalev .... .., alas, he didn’t fall on the spot in Grozny

[Dzafdet]

Just two did not share the proceeds from the heroin plant. And they started a showdown, and simple boys died because of this.

[alex aircraft]

In Chechnya, the actual genocide of Russians was going on with 91. How many property was killed by the raped Russian women, and this ghoul suffered up to 94? Well, how is privatization above all. And even more so, what is Crimea ....

[Starper-xnumx]

It was useless to call, everything went to the collapse of Russia ..
That's when they started to really wet, they immediately requested a truce .. There was no other way out.

[Ryaruav]

it all started with the fact that they began to indulge the nationality

[GibSoN]

Chechen "History" is the greatest shame of the entire Russian people. Starting with the USSR and ending with modern Russia! Literally in everything. Starting with the fact that the fraternal peoples killed each other as brutally as possible, even the Slavic ones! In the end, now we are paying for this whole shame! In all this "Chechen history", it is impossible to find a single positive moment for the Russian! And most importantly, no one really answered for what happened!