The holy simplicity of the liberals

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Recently, Vladimir Pozner in his interview pleased us with a liberal assessment of what is happening in Ukraine: “They have achieved a lot ... they choose the president, and not someone else. They can say: “We chose Poroshenko, we chose Zelensky, we have real elections, and you have what?”

Democracy Poroshenko


This is how our famous observer and liberal sees democracy in Ukraine, which “has achieved a lot,” unlike Russia. We can say that when Poroshenko was elected, they almost killed presidential candidate Oleg Tsarev: “civil activists” met him right after the live broadcast, and no democracy saved him, Tsarev had to escape in Moscow. Until now, Oleg Tsaryov is forced to live in Moscow, like many other well-known Ukrainian politicians, because "democracy" in Ukraine is controlled by "civic activists", part-time militants of neo-Nazi paramilitary groups, "Azov" has come to the fore today. Our discerning liberal does not see all this. Why?



Because the candidacy of Poroshenko passed preliminary approval in the Western capitals of recognized leaders of Western democracy, including Angela Merkel herself, after which Poroshenko unexpectedly received a frenzied sociology from sociologists associated with Western capitals, which was expected to be fixed by voting figures. A number of political scientists then argued that Poroshenko’s victory in the elections was drawn, it was a pure fraud, but who remembers this today? Time passed and everything was covered with the armor of "democracy", behind which our Posner also hides today.

This is a liberal paradox: its luminaries, so insightful and farsighted in some cases, in others, and standing nearby, are surprisingly short-sighted and naive. Just holy simplicity!

Democracy Zelensky


Poroshenko does not seem to see all the “achievements” of Poroshenko over the years of his presidency: he does not see the unleashed war in the Donbass, political killings in Ukraine, none of which are disclosed, nor the one with which the Poroshenko unanimously swept the voters in the next election. Because he sees a glorious victory in the election of Vladimir Zelensky. But he forgets to say what she was provided with. We recall: Zelensky literally promised to put Poroshenko "on the bench." For this, the people chose him, but is still waiting for the promised.

The people voted against Poroshenko, so Zelensky won, what a democracy! Just settling the bills! However, it was not at all the people who were the main protagonists in this “democratic act”, but the chief of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Azov Nazi Regiment Arsen Avakov: his militants fearlessly drove the incumbent President Poroshenko around the country and did not allow the SBU Gritsak to “draw” the results of the next election. Avakov received the sanction for this at the US State Department during an urgent pre-election trip to Washington, after which he innocently declared: "We will have a new political cycle." Turned out to be a prophet!

Therefore, the Azov militants, led by the “white leader” Biletsky, today behave like real masters in the country and push the president Zelensky, openly threaten him with a maidan, dumbbell and grand piano, and the whole president is crouching in front of his detractors.

Both the President Zelensky and President Poroshenko were appointed by the US State Department, and people counted by sociologists served as extras and extras at polling stations under the street control of neo-Nazi militants. That’s the whole “democracy." Or a performance? Posner sees this as “democracy”, “the people chose Zelensky,” and we see that without Poshenko’s staff decision on Zelensky and Avakov’s force support, Poroshenko would have remained for a second term, which he hinted at.

However, the real Russian liberals, not only Posner, see all this as “democracy”, because it is right, pro-Western, because it is agreed with Washington. Therefore, with all neo-Nazis on the streets of Kiev, performances and political repressions, it is “correct” for liberals.

They probably understand to themselves that today's Ukraine is a colony, but the colony is a western one, which means that progress is evident. Because all the values ​​and freedoms for our liberals are just words that cover up the main task: to put Russia under the West. They laid Ukraine under the West, albeit with the help of the Bandera Nazis, and they are happy about this, therefore they see this as “democracy” and the free choice of the people, but they don’t see neo-Nazis. Sometimes a Jesuit excuse slips among some liberal figures and even the media: Russia itself would be better off if the West strangled it a little in a colonial embrace. It will eventually become somehow a Western country ... It seems that there is only one way out: either Russia or the fifth liberal column in Russia will disappear.

Chameleon syndrome


Therefore, columnist Posner sees "democracy" in Ukraine. Since the sun of democracy rises only in the West, and in the East it always sets. Therefore, the East must always look up to the West from the bottom up and not notice its spots, even neo-Nazi. This is the main liberal democratic value.


And you can’t say that Posner is stupid and does not see all the stupidity of this liberal analysis, rather, on the contrary. What are we observing in this case? Yes, this is a Chekhovian chameleon, who is either cold or hot, and either hides himself with a democratic western coat, then takes it off and gritted his teeth: “State Duma!” So ​​Posner answers his own question: “And what do we have?”

And here we have President Vladimir Putin, who has enjoyed so many years such obvious support from the people that elections really become in some sense a formality. We see a similar picture in Germany, where the authority of Merkel deprives the local elections of intrigue for many years, and she herself has been the chancellor for many years. In this, Merkel keeps pace with Putin, but Posner does not have questions for Germany: “And what do they have?” Because, according to the liberal definition, the western sun cannot have spots.
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  1. +29
    26 November 2019 15: 11
    Freedom is determined by the rights that a person has in the state and access to the benefits of an equal (or close to equal) for all, and not the ability to talk all kinds of crap and do the same. In the Union, a person was perhaps more free than right now. request
    1. +5
      26 November 2019 15: 18
      Posner is already a clinic.
      1. +5
        27 November 2019 06: 32
        Posner is already a clinic.

        I agree! ++++++++
        But someone needs him on television. Ernst or another "Ernst". And nobody touches this Poznar. I wonder why? Is he someone's relative, a roof, or maybe a "lover" or "mistress"?
        It is incomprehensible to me.
        1. 0
          27 November 2019 10: 47
          Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi
          Posner is already a clinic.

          I agree! ++++++++
          But someone needs him on television. Ernst or another "Ernst". And nobody touches this Poznar. I wonder why? Is he someone's relative, a roof, or maybe a "lover" or "mistress"?
          It is incomprehensible to me.

          He’s just a professional, and therefore they keep and close their eyes to his personal opinion. I remember in Soviet times, he scolded the West, which now praises.
      2. 0
        29 November 2019 14: 19
        Chameleon syndrome

        Therefore, columnist Posner sees "democracy" in Ukraine. Since the sun of democracy rises only in the West, and in the East it always sets. Therefore, the East must always look
        IT IS SIMPLE AS 10 DOLLARS .... AND DOES NOT NEED ANYTHING EXCEPT DOLLARS, EVEN ITS OWN COWS AND RUSSIAN SANITARY TECHNOLOGIES - ALL IS GIVEN BY THE WORLD ECONOMY
      3. -1
        5 December 2019 12: 08
        The clinic or not this liberalist - I do not care. But the fact that the clinic is still with a very large part of the people is the misfortune of the country and the people themselves. It’s time to already begin to be treated.
    2. +26
      26 November 2019 15: 26
      And here we have President Vladimir Putin, who has enjoyed so many years such obvious support from the people that elections really become in some sense a formality.

      What a strange propaganda statement .. This very "formality" led to the fact that Putin, without batting an eye, forgot all his promises, including not raising the retirement age .. And now, Putin has no popular support, or rather, he has lost it greatly ..
      We see a similar picture in Germany, where the authority of Merkel deprives the local elections of intrigue for many years, and she herself has been the chancellor for many years.

      But the Germans have only one question for Merkel-migrants .. For the rest, the Germans have every shot! Unlike us ..
      1. +5
        26 November 2019 15: 53
        Quote: Svarog
        But the Germans have only one question for Merkel-migrants .. For the rest, the Germans have every shot! Unlike us.

        Well, the Germans have Ordung above all else, but the case with immigrants does not fit into Ordung.
        1. +1
          26 November 2019 17: 03
          [quote = Proton] In the Union, man was perhaps more free than right now. [/ quote]
          [Quote] "right now" wassat

          No, my friend, in the USSR, a person had to get a secondary education. wink laughing

          Pozner says that he doesn’t live a single day without a booze.
          Alcoholic.
          Maybe what kind of print addict interview will they print? laughing
      2. +14
        26 November 2019 16: 20
        Quote: Svarog
        What a strange propaganda statement ..

        Strange? Hmm .. You probably didn’t look at the author’s last name. KAMENEV own person. He will not write such articles to you. You read and think: maybe I live in another Russia? Maybe there is the same Russia, Kamenevskaya, where patriots Putin, Medvedev, Miller, Sechin, Siluanov, Gref rule, which increase the well-being of the people, fight corruption, and boost the economy? Can parallel reality really exist? Or is everything much simpler and the author’s creativity should be singled out as a separate topic - fantasy?
      3. -9
        26 November 2019 16: 42
        1. IMF pension reform-recommendation, which was carried out by the liberal elite brought up and set to steer even under Gorbat. Claims and talk about pension reform are to the IMF.
        2. Zer Hood will soon change Alla I to a bar.
        1. +8
          26 November 2019 16: 54
          And why then did Putin persuade us to silently accept this pension reform? He would have said right away that he had been forced to break through this reform of the IMF, and he could not go against the IMF. He didn’t say that.
          And on the other hand, it is interesting that Crimea join the IMF as well? Or did Putin not ask permission from the IMF?
          1. -8
            26 November 2019 17: 07
            Foreign policy is available to the president, domestic policy is available to that part of the so-called "elite" that wants a Maidan in the Russian Federation.
        2. +11
          26 November 2019 18: 29
          Quote: Tank jacket
          Claims and talk about pension reform are to the IMF.

          It is intended! Putin is not at all involved. laughing
          1. -3
            26 November 2019 18: 43
            Do you think the IMF is out of business? So ... recommendations ... well ...
        3. +4
          26 November 2019 19: 20
          Quote: Tank jacket
          Zer Hood will soon change Alla I to a bar.

          They wrote everything correctly about pension reform, and why I don’t understand so many minuses. It turns out that she likes. I'll put a plus. I haven’t figured out your reform yet.
          1. +10
            26 November 2019 19: 33
            hi Citizens simply forgot how in 1991 they lost economic sovereignty ... They integrated themselves into the IMF without the right to vote, as a raw material appendage of world financial circles. And now they are crying ...
            1. 0
              26 November 2019 19: 44
              Quote: Tank jacket
              Citizens simply forgot how in 1991 they lost economic sovereignty ... They integrated themselves into the IMF without the right to vote, as a raw material appendage of world financial circles. And now they are crying ...

              In 1991, according to the USSR system, I managed to "jump out" on a preferential pension. Lucky. And the rest is that you wrote everything correctly.
            2. 0
              5 December 2019 12: 13
              Not so, Ruslan! In the 91st I voted for the Union, for reforms, those that benefit the country and people. And not for the destruction of the country and the transfer of free created and acquired by the people into the hands of criminals and traitors.
              But the 93rd could already grow wiser, but alas, the insight came much later.
              And to the majority, I think that it is far from overwhelming, and still has not come.
              1. 0
                5 December 2019 16: 48
                Welcome hi , mincemeat cannot be turned back; many people did not expect such consequences of the deliberate destruction of the USSR. It was easier for Stalin to fight officials, because there was an ideology, but now it doesn’t exist ...
      4. DRM
        0
        28 November 2019 21: 36
        Quote: Svarog
        What a strange propaganda statement .. This very "formality" led to the fact that Putin, without batting an eye, forgot all his promises, including not raising the retirement age .. And now, Putin has no popular support, or rather, he has lost it greatly ..
        We see a similar picture in Germany, where the authority of Merkel deprives the local elections of intrigue for many years, and she herself has been the chancellor for many years.

        But the Germans have only one question for Merkel-migrants .. For the rest, the Germans have every shot! Unlike us ..

        This is how Kamenev specializes in propaganda. Moreover, in a cheeky manner "sculpts a hunchback to the wall", not embarrassed by the fact that reality is obviously different from his ideologically verified enthusiasm for power.
      5. +1
        1 December 2019 05: 17
        Svarog finish gimp about pensions whining. And I think you should not speak for all the people. Got it already. He does not need your support. How would you be more polite to say. Well, in general, except for activity on the site, it is nowhere to be found anywhere else. These are not needed either in politics or in the economy. Sorry for the rudeness of course .. But I just got it already with this topic.
        1. -1
          5 December 2019 19: 32
          I decided to drink some seagulls on, turned on the telly, and there the French organizedly opposed their pension reform. Here's how to fight for your rights.
          1. 0
            6 December 2019 13: 06
            I decided to drink some seagulls on, turned on the telly, and there the French organizedly opposed their pension reform. Here's how to fight for your rights.
            And who drives tanks to the borders of France? He declared an economic war? Does Italy grind its teeth at France with a request to return Champagne, historically native to them? You are beguiled and a little in comparisons.
            1. -2
              6 December 2019 13: 26
              What are you talking about, Blizzard? About the sanctions? So I will say one thing - sanctions were not scared or interfered with Stalin.
              1. 0
                6 December 2019 16: 52
                Stalin was not scared. Only not those times now. Not at all begging for his merits to the fatherland, I will simply recall how many victims and at what cost industrialization came. How many people died from illnesses, unbearable labor, and simply hunger. Such a breakthrough came at a price. And by the way, I’m looking, do not burn with the desire to put life on the altar of work .... Look how they howled for pensions. I understand that you have long worked your way. They need Stalin ... Yes, you would starve to death from unfulfilled workdays.
                1. -1
                  6 December 2019 20: 30
                  Blizzard, I’m a bit over 70, I’ve been retired for a long time, I don’t work, but I have something to do, I don’t mess around. And I’m thinking not about my pension (why be sad, it’s good that I earned it myself for a relatively prosperous old age, but to my children and grandchildren, both our own and those of others. Against what awaits them with such rulers and such a social system.
                  Now for the labors and sacrifices under Stalin. I have already written more than once that it is not necessary to read out the Solzhenitsins and K, as well as to listen to Svanidze and K. The guys with exuberant imagination. And yet, get acquainted with the history of the tragedies and victims of not only our country, and in the world as a whole, in particular, how things were in the affairs of the authorities so beloved by our liberals and notebook patriots.
    3. +1
      27 November 2019 00: 20
      he would go to Ukraine to chat ... they would have beaten a Jew with a moment
    4. -1
      5 December 2019 12: 05
      Not possibly freer, but simply free. Except for those who gradually cooked for us today.
  2. +25
    26 November 2019 15: 16
    And here we have President Vladimir Putin, who has enjoyed so many years such obvious support from the people that elections really become in some sense a formality.
    ------------------------------
    Pension reform and tax increases are also supported by the people, or am I missing something?
    1. +20
      26 November 2019 15: 29
      Quote: Altona
      Pension reform and tax increases are also supported by the people, or am I missing something?

      But what about. And a 110% increase in waste collection for cars from the next year is approved, and finally those shameful 50 rubles for children will no longer be paid. Yes
    2. +25
      26 November 2019 15: 35
      But mind you. For the most part, people swallowed obviously anti-people law. There are even supporters. At work, most of us vote for edro. And we are not bank employees or stockbrokers, coupled with oligarchs ... We simply process sunflower. Probably we are worthy of such a relationship. We will have a relationship. We will spit in the face, we will smile, we will be raped, we will wave ... Every year I see the future of Russia more and more pessimistically. We are stuck in stagnation, nepotism and theft, who are insolent with the authority of permissiveness.
      1. -2
        26 November 2019 15: 46
        Quote: 210ox

        But mind you. For the most part, people swallowed obviously anti-people law.

        So someone needs such "kolisurengoy"
      2. +10
        26 November 2019 16: 43
        Quote: 210ox
        At work, most of us vote for edro. And we are not bank employees or stockbrokers, coupled with oligarchs ..

        I completely agree with everything, except that people vote for edro .. In my environment, there are none at all .. there are those who are for Zhirinovsky, and no one for Edro .. But basically, all are for the Communists, even young people, who are 20- 30 years .. You can certainly assume that in private conversations they say that they will vote for the Communists, and then they go and vote for the edro .. but this is unlikely, but the administrative resource has not been canceled yet. And I have my everyday confirmation of this, the wife of a friend, a teacher, and in the presidential election, she was told where and when to throw a pack of billions and that there will be a prize ..
        1. +4
          27 November 2019 10: 44
          Quote: Svarog
          In my environment, there are none at all .. there are those who are for Zhirinovsky

          I will subscribe to every word. Only in the last local elections to our city council, the LDPR sold three mandates to the edra and organized a stuffing. Such is sovereign democracy.
      3. +2
        26 November 2019 18: 46
        “But the system exists. She holds on. No riots, no signs of popular unrest, and strikes have long been forgotten. If you look at what is happening in many other capitals of the world on television, horror encompasses: police with batons, hoses and tear gases disperses the raging crowds of demonstrators. And thank God, we have nothing similar, except that football fans are beaten at the stadium. Calm country. Everyone is grumbling, no one is indignant and not protesting, everyone is going to the polls, listening to reports of high presidential ratings ... Where does the rebellious, seemingly rebellious people spirit come from? ”

        Georgy Ilyich Mirsky “Life in three eras”
      4. 0
        26 November 2019 21: 39
        Have you personally written about yourself or for all the people?
      5. 0
        6 December 2019 20: 34
        Let’s join the ranks of Navalny (and he climbed with komunyaki and with mustachioed LIQUID STRAWBERRY in the first place). Come on .. why are you there, with Rainbow Rainbow you will talk, but who else is there ... Ksyushad, who knows how many. That's who today climbs the barricades to the abyss to the trough and don’t begin to slurp.
    3. +2
      26 November 2019 15: 49
      Quote: Altona
      Pension reform and tax increases are also supported by the people, or am I missing something?

      Or try to make you miss it.
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  3. +1
    26 November 2019 15: 17
    The "holy simplicity of the liberals" is in fact a cynical cunning ass.
  4. +2
    26 November 2019 15: 17
    Pozner democracy is when the US Democratic Party (Clintonoid) appoints the President of Ukraine laughing And they take away the land ... Well, what did Great-Ukrainian vote ??? They participated in the big top voices and added legitimacy to the decision to take the land ... Well done !!!
    1. +7
      26 November 2019 16: 14
      "I have always thought that democracy is the rule of the people. But Comrade Roosevelt clearly explained to me that democracy is the rule of the American people."

      Read slowly, not forgetting the characteristic accent. I can not guarantee that these are the true words of Stalin. Everything is available on the Internet, the source is not indicated. But the style is similar. Those who read Stalin’s correspondence with Roosevelt and Churchill will undoubtedly recall the more unpleasant passages for the last two.
  5. +16
    26 November 2019 15: 19
    One of Posner's associates was asked "Why is the extermination of Belarusians not a Holocaust?"
    Answer- "Because the Belarusians were exterminated not for their nationality, but for disobeying the laws established by the new authorities."
    Liberals (especially "Russians" - Pozner, Makarevich, Akhedzhakova, Kasparov. Akunin ... POLOVO Russophobes) are the weapon of enemies. And you cannot personally convince me of the opposite.
    "You illuminated your mind with enlightenment,
    You saw the truth
    And dearly loved the nations,
    And he hated his wisdom.

    You rubbed your hands from our failures
    With a sly laugh, he listened to the news,
    When the shelves fled
    And the banner of our honor perished. "
    ,
    Since the time of Pushkin, NOTHING has changed.
    1. -1
      26 November 2019 15: 40
      Quote: knn54
      You rubbed your hands from our failures
      With a sly laugh, he listened to the news,
      When the shelves fled
      And the banner of our honor perished. "

      Better than Alexander Sergeyevich no one wrote. And then he said
      You drove the head and wept bitterly, Like a Jew about Jerusalem.
  6. 0
    26 November 2019 15: 21
    And the French citizen Posner chose Macron altogether. wassat
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  8. +4
    26 November 2019 15: 34
    In his interview, Vladimir Pozner pleased us with a liberal assessment of what is happening in Ukraine: “They have achieved a lot ... they choose the president, and not someone else. They can say: “We chose Poroshenko, we chose Zelensky, we have real elections, and you have what?” And you can’t say that Posner is stupid and does not see all the stupidity of this liberal analysis, rather, on the contrary.
    And what can be expected from a person who is not Russian, and not born in Russia, and who has lived a conscious life in the West. Man by nature is Russophobe and liberal in fact. It is unclear how he got on such a lowdown on our television to corrupt the minds and souls of our youth?
    1. -1
      26 November 2019 16: 35
      hi The media in the Russian Federation belong to the liberals, otherwise they would not have called on Ukrainians to go to the polls, to ensure turnout and vote for Zelensky. Elections had to be sabotaged ...
    2. +3
      26 November 2019 17: 29
      Posner is neither liberal nor Russophobe. He just does what he can and thereby earns a living. Nothing personal just business. In Soviet times, was one of the main mouthpieces of the propaganda of communism, now liberalism. He who pays to him is a faithful slave.
      1. 0
        26 November 2019 19: 22
        Quote: Nick Russ
        He who pays to him is a faithful slave.

        Something wrong. He is not our man.
  9. +2
    26 November 2019 15: 42
    About Merkel generally smiled. There is a chancellor, according to which the candidacy of Merkel and any chancellor of Germany is approved in the US Congress.
  10. +6
    26 November 2019 16: 05
    And here we have President Vladimir Putin, who has enjoyed so many years such obvious support from the people that elections really become in some sense a formality.
    The author, did not confuse anything for these words?
  11. +7
    26 November 2019 16: 06
    Ospod, if it’s not about Ukraine and the USA, it’s about Pozner about Ukraine ... From the words of liberal, liberals are already sick, well, it’s just some invisible sect that is to blame for everything, for example, it presses the non-liberal government and the President liberal reforms, not liberals keep liberal Pozner on channel 1 .. Here I don’t understand much
    And here we have President Vladimir Putin, who has enjoyed so many years such obvious support from the people that elections really become in some sense a formality.
    ...It's sarcasm? laughing or from the heart?
    1. 0
      26 November 2019 19: 25
      Quote: parusnik
      From the words of a liberal, liberals are simply already sick, well, just some invisible sect,

      Well, where do you get away from them, they’re close, thank God that they’re still not getting into the bed.
  12. +2
    26 November 2019 16: 12
    We must remember: "Freedom is a realized necessity." Then the person is free.
    1. +2
      26 November 2019 19: 28
      Quote: midshipman
      We must remember: "Freedom is a conscious need."

      And I remembered "Freedom depends on the length of the chain. The chain was released - the bowl was pushed back, the chain was pulled - the bowl was moved"
  13. +6
    26 November 2019 16: 13
    The recipe for the article has already become old:
    Bigger and no brakes
    Write more often Ukroin,
    Nazism, fascism and the Azov regiment! ...
  14. 0
    26 November 2019 16: 15
    Vladimir Vladimirovich, what’s your purpose, well, why make yourself an idiot !!!!!
  15. +6
    26 November 2019 16: 22
    From the utterances of classics and quotes from literary works.

    Anton Pavlovich Chekhov
    “I don’t believe in our intelligentsia, hypocritical, false, hysterical, ill-mannered, deceitful, I don’t even believe when it suffers and complains, because its oppressors come out of its very depths.”

    Fedor Ivanovich Tyutchev:
    Wasted work!
    No, you can’t understand them:
    The more liberal, the vulgar;
    Civilization is a fetish for them,
    But their idea is not available to them.

    As you bow down before her, gentlemen,
    You cannot gain recognition from Europe:
    In her eyes you will always be
    Not servants of enlightenment, but serfs.

    Vasily Osipovich Klyuchevsky, historian.
    "There is such a weak-necked intelligentsia, which can not keep silent about anything, can not bring anything to the place, and through the newspapers pours out everything that clogs its indiscernible stomach."
    Classification of the intelligentsia:
    1) People with a patchwork worldview sewn from newspaper and magazine scraps.
    2) Sectarians with hardened commandments, but without a way of thinking and even without the ability to think.
    3) The slivers floating with the stream are liberal or conservative opportunists, both without beliefs and without thoughts, with just words and appetites.

    But it should be noted that sometimes he gets to the point when talking about the problems in Russia. And this is the fault of those who steal, "giving them good material for discussion," for liberal journalists: Vladimir Pozner, Alexander Nevzorov, etc. Who, with the benefit of the West, attract young people.
    Why data and other "liberal aristocrats" are not kicked out of the information flow.
    For those in power, such journalists are beneficial. Because they can always say to impressionable heads: "We have democracy."
    1. +3
      26 November 2019 16: 34
      After the defeat in the war of 1904-1905, the intelligentsia and "other thoughtful" wrote congratulatory letters to Japan, they admired the victory of the "enlightened Japan" which "punished the bast shoes of Russia."
      And in the event of Russia's defeat in the battle for Novorossiya, we can guess how they will laugh, gloat, "teach Russian people how to live." Therefore, if we defend Novorossiya, it means that it will be bad for the liberals, so we will take the path of restoring the Russian state.
  16. +6
    26 November 2019 16: 36
    Even somehow it’s not entirely clear, the article as an excuse to scold Posner, or praise Putin?
    1. -3
      26 November 2019 17: 05
      An article to think about, probably ...
      1. +4
        26 November 2019 17: 08
        Well, just think there is nothing special
  17. +8
    26 November 2019 17: 08
    Since Posner is on TV, then someone needs it.
  18. +6
    26 November 2019 17: 20
    Posner mixed in a bunch with Ukraine (again?) - both of them got sick of it like dirt under their feet. And then suddenly a panegyric to the permanent rower in the galleys. A thought creeps in, and not for the sake of these couple of lines the whole article was written? Any mention of a signatory to the retirement genocide has long been toxic.
  19. +1
    26 November 2019 17: 46
    the cuckoo moved out from Posner, it’s enough to watch a film about Germany with Urgant, it’s for sure a clinic and would go to Germany’s daughter in general, no, because here it’s not bad for him to pay who and why
  20. +8
    26 November 2019 17: 48
    . And here we have President Vladimir Putin, who has enjoyed so many years such obvious support from the people that elections really become in some sense a formality.


    Is the author raving?
    1. 0
      1 December 2019 12: 07
      Maybe it's sarcasm?
  21. +4
    26 November 2019 17: 57
    When is Comrade Kamenev even entered into dialogues, defended his opinion. But not now. Apparently, a resident of an alternative reality cannot conduct dialogs with mere mortals wink
    1. +4
      26 November 2019 20: 18
      Quote: Locos
      When is Comrade Kamenev even entered into dialogues,

      Now even Skomorokhov does not come out "to the people" ...
  22. +6
    26 November 2019 18: 13
    And here we have President Vladimir Putin, who has enjoyed so many years such obvious support from the people that elections really become in some sense a formality.
    For the sake of writing these lines, the author piled up a garden of Posner-Poroshenko-Zelensky-Azov Liberals? You can even shorter - "Ave Putin". The effect (number of comments / asterisks under the article) will be about the same, but the time of the writer and readers is significantly saved. wink
  23. -5
    26 November 2019 18: 27
    It’s high time to bring our liberals to slander. Vyaknul not in the case, did not bring evidence, a fine on annual income and with a broom in his hand for six months to start.
  24. -5
    26 November 2019 20: 59
    And here we have President Vladimir Putin, who has enjoyed such obvious support from the people for many years that elections really become, in a sense, a formality

    "Oh, we have ... gas in our apartment, but you?" Hmm ... More thoroughly, even more thoroughly it is necessary ... to emphasize "nation-wide" ...
  25. +3
    26 November 2019 22: 42
    But, on the other hand, Posner is on TV, with its liberalism and Ukraine, but those who are not satisfied are not.

    Well, the elections - the Kernel at any moment can draw 99% and 130% for itself ...
  26. 0
    27 November 2019 00: 18
    and also the dill president eats honey and rides on a lisaped ... democracy is complete
  27. +3
    27 November 2019 05: 34
    Again pass through Pozner, such as a liberal and all that. Stop, have liberals ruined the country in recent years? No ... Are liberals paying small salaries to doctors and teachers? No ... Talented children of officials sitting on the boards of Russia's largest banks from liberals? No ... Pensions raised by leaders? No...

    Found scapegoats.

    And as for Posner, he achieved all that he has with his labor and can express his thoughts in what form is convenient for him, how convenient, and what is convenient. For this is his opinion.
  28. 0
    28 November 2019 14: 00
    So, by the way, let me clarify with specialists in pension reform:
    if I understood correctly: BEFORE the law on raising retirement age V. Putin everything was class and the average Russian pension allowed the average Russian pensioner to live happily ever after. So?
    But a new law happened, pension age was increased and now, AFTER the law on increasing pension age, V. Putin, everything has become NOT class and the average Russian pension will NOT allow the average Russian pensioner to live happily ever after. So?

    Or maybe ... mmmm, .... something like this:
    Before the law on increasing the pension age by V. Putin, everyone, on the average, drove a bald up to 55-60 years old and received "kopecks" on retirement; and now, AFTER the law on increasing the pension age by V. Putin, will everyone, on the average, drive a bald up to 60-65 years old and will receive "pennies" in retirement?

    Frankly, I had to work with people of pre-retirement age and have a lot .... Nope ....
    In 9 out of 10 cases - "netcoat". More "open iksel", of course, they can ... But then - light ink and go buy bills. By the way, I fully understand this situation. For this is how the mosque of an elderly person is arranged.
    I will say more! I dream to retire faster !!!! No, seriously, no kidding! But for a normal life on my pension I take certain steps, in advance, and at the same time I do not count in the slightest on the state and "mmm-s" in the form of any pension funds ...
  29. -3
    29 November 2019 17: 02
    In some respects, liberals are still right: Russia really needs to integrate into the West, this govnokon conflict is no good to anyone. But to integrate wisely, like Singapore, and not on any conditions throw oneself in the legs, as liberals see it. Ideal Russia is a part of the West, a showcase of capitalism and the vanguard of the free world, an anti-Chinese shield. In general, one of the main beneficiaries of the Western world order.
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  31. 0
    1 December 2019 12: 07
    The first one has for a long time been raising more questions than answers. Having the opportunity to compare, I see that by their policies they seem to be affiliates of CNN or BBC, managers and directors are similar from there, pursuing policies and ensuring the interests of our "partners" for our money. These are all so-called. correspondents and observers, artists, headed by their creative leader, who have Russophobia and hatred of everything Russian from their ears on all sorts of so-called. talk shows and miserable and mediocre TV series, but vehemently anti-Soviet and Russophobic have already made a fortune for themselves, providing themselves and their beloved children (who of course live and see their future overseas) for years to come. One thing is not clear, for what such masterpieces, all this garbage receives such fees and salaries, and even encouraged by the state. At our expense, we are also poured with mud, which means that the country's leadership has the same attitude towards its country and people, if their mouthpiece and policy maker has been working for another power for so many years.
  32. -1
    1 December 2019 12: 13
    Quote: Tank jacket
    . Pension reform is an IMF recommendation, which was implemented by the liberal elite brought up and set to steer even under Gorbat. Claims and talk about pension reform are to the IMF.
    Two questions :
    1) Who runs Russia, the IMF or Putin?
    2) Putin liberal?
  33. -1
    5 December 2019 12: 04
    I won’t talk about the Outskirts, but about the Russian Federation this pro-oil liberalist is right.