London does not know what to do with old submarines

The UK has written off twenty nuclear submarines since 1980, but has not decided what to do with them, writes the Hong Kong-based Asia Times. At fleet there is neither an action plan nor sufficient funding.

None of the decommissioned submarines were disposed of, and out of nine of them, they did not even unload fuel. London spent 500 million pounds (almost 650 million US dollars) on the maintenance of these decommissioned submarines between 1980 and 2017.

The complete disposal of a nuclear installation alone would cost 96 millions of pounds. As a result, the total cost of the complete elimination of ten existing Royal Navy submarines, and another twenty already decommissioned will amount to almost 10 billion US dollars!

The situation is aggravated by the fact that there is only one contractor in the country capable of performing such complex work. In addition, different classes of submarines require a different approach. And one more thing: if in the British civilian sector the nuclear facility disposal schemes were laid down in the project initially, then the military has no such strict requirements, which now leads to certain difficulties.

The Asia Times notes that both the Soviet Union and the United States faced similar problems. But these countries have solved them differently.

Comments

[8200]

Drown off the coast of an enemy state

[SovAr238A]

Quote: 8200

Drown off the coast of an enemy state

Attention to the question: Whose shores do the Angles consider enemy?

[Prisoner]

The question is rhetorical. Another thing is interesting. Whose shores considers 8200 enemy?

[Tersky]

Quote: 8200

Drown off the coast of an enemy state

There will not be enough boats; the Anglo-Saxons have the whole world - enemy states.

[Bykov.]

Quote: 8200

Drown off the coast of an enemy state

These can. They will drown at Murmansk and say that this is the work of Bashirov and Petrov.

[APES]

Give to Ukraine

[Aerodrome]

London does not know what to do with old submarines

dulls .. used to know, in yellow it is necessary to paint! :

[private person]

It’s just right not to give but to sell, as part of so-called help in protecting the coast.

[Felix]

Quote: APES

Give to Ukraine

Sell ​​to Ukraine.

[PSih2097]

Quote: Felix

Quote: APES

Give to Ukraine

Sell ​​to Ukraine.

what for? so that in the end the black sea turns green and lush?

[Monar]

Will not. Ukraine could not pick up two old boats from the USA for more than a year.
And here, until they retrain, while they paint, while the toilets change ... 100 years will pass. Either the boats themselves will be drowned there in England, or Ukraine will dig a separate sea specially for them.
I have big doubts about the sea.

[AVA77]

Felix (Felix) Sell to Ukraine.
Just before the sale, count and take pictures of all the toilets!

[Atlant-1164]

off the coast of the USA ?? they fought among themselves. the Britons lost their colony. these prisoners and slaves.

[Starover_Z]

Quote: Atlant-1164

off the coast of the USA ?? they fought among themselves. the Britons lost their colony. these prisoners and slaves.

Give Mexico!

[Alien From]

Let the brothers give it, and all at once)))) they have recently been delighted with such gifts !!!

[Alexander Petrov1]

Of course, it is necessary to dispose of it, because ecology is expensive and then in the event of an environmental disaster, the liquidation of damage will be several times more expensive, as Chernobyl and Fukushima showed ...

[Zeev Zeev]

Well, you can sell them to someone. Hindus, for example. Or Brazil. Or Australia.

[Thrifty]

Zeyevzeev-give them to you without transfer right

[Zeev Zeev]

Why do we need it? Why mess up the Mediterranean?

[Thrifty]

Zeev Zeev - "show bulo"! Don’t look at a donated submarine under the screw You do not wake them on the sea-akeyanu to go, it is painfully expensive. ...but. ..the fact of presence itself will allow you to walk with your heads held high (just look under your feet more often so as not to hit very hard when you fall) !!!

[Zeev Zeev]

Cheap Ponte is not for Israel. Dear show off all the more.

[Thrifty]

Zeev-zeev-presented, so enough to be indignant, say thank you (mentally) and suffer, in the sense, be inherited by the Trojan horse, that is, an English gift! !!

[Zeev Zeev]

The British are still angry with us that we kicked them in 1948, what gifts?

[Thrifty]

Zeev zeev - so therefore from their table, that is, the fleet, such an attack in your garden! !!

[Zeev Zeev]

What for? In the Mediterranean, Red Sea and the Gulf, we have enough German U-boats for our eyes.

[Thrifty]

Zeev zeev, you can’t argue with me! !! I am not saying that you should take these boats into the fleet! !! I say that you just have to learn how to make money from the availability of these boats! !! Though films with their participation shoot, at least open stores in them - a business, in any way! !! BASTA !!!

[Zeev Zeev]

Oh, it’s not for you to teach us how to make money. And it’s okay that they suggested something sensible, otherwise they would make some films. And the store on the Premier League is unlikely to attract anyone. Now, if you make an underwater nuclear power plant from them, and put them off the coast of Gaza ...

[Simargl]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

Cheap Ponte is not for Israel. Dear show off all the more.

These are average show-offs. Especially for Israel.
Cheap show-offs - boats, like ukroreich. Dear - an aircraft carrier.

[Zeev Zeev]

We generally show off like something unnecessarily. Our fleet is small, it is financed only to the extent necessary. Corvettes, boats and submarines. Diesel.

[Old Michael]

to: Zeev Zeev
I agree with you, or not - it does not matter. But for a consistent argument and elegant departure from Troll butting - a fat plus.

[Simargl]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

submarines. Diesel.

Well, throw the reactor, stick the diesel ...

[Okolotochny]

The cost will come out of a new diesel submarine.

[Simargl]

Quote: Okolotochny

The cost will come out of a new diesel submarine.

This is a resident of the huckster country: the reactor will sell ... it will also be in the black ...

[knn54]

WILL GIVE IN "good" hands, pickup.

[Zhan]

Quote: knn54

WILL GIVE IN "good" hands, pickup.

General's slus, save Pasalast, for Shikoka Attash Nama Patlotka, metalam in China, soooo noisy ...
Lock the wholesale ..

[AU Ivanov.]

Give it to Ukraine. They will drown them or cut them into metal.

[Phil77]

I draw your attention to the fact that nuclear submarines. And you want to attach them to such new owners. It is dangerous!

[The leader of the Redskins]

I never knew that the fleets also faced such a problem. Live and learn...

[VALERIK_097]

Nazariy, type "Sayda-Lip" PVC in the search engine, you will be pleasantly surprised.

[The leader of the Redskins]

Thank you, I’ll take a look.

[The leader of the Redskins]

Odd ... I looked at the photo, read .... Sadness. And what to do with all this legacy ?!

[Amurets]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Sadness. And what to do with all this legacy ?!

Never mind. Present to Baron Rothschild, without the right to leave the territorial waters of the metropolis and let him turn green with his "GREEN"

[VALERIK_097]

Titanium cases have 100 years of sludge (LMW), the rest 75 (VM-A, OK) -75. Almost in every block, containerized low-level solid radioactive waste, the blocks have an additional concrete base. The blocks are not static, it is possible to periodically drive them into the indoor Workshop. There is, as I think, a slight excess in gamma background, unfixed beta-net. Decent physical protection.
After 75 (100) years, complete utilization of the blocks is expected, which I strongly doubt. I consider the most secure and relatively cheap ground-based storage option for nuclear submarines.
I can be mistaken, but on the Kola Peninsula there were no RO blocks afloat, the extreme z-s 742 (Project 941) was converted and sent for storage this summer. A program for lifting and unloading the RO (Kara Sea) and the 159th, well, if you shake the Norwegians again

[Alexey RA]

The UK wrote off twenty nuclear submarines from the 1980 of the year, but has not decided what to do with them, writes the Hong Kong-based Asia Times. The fleet has neither an action plan, nor sufficient funding.
None of the decommissioned submarines were disposed of, and out of nine of them, they did not even unload fuel. London spent 500 million pounds (almost 650 million US dollars) on the maintenance of these decommissioned submarines between 1980 and 2017.

Gorgeous. And how much stink was from the British and British feeding ecologists about our decommissioned nuclear submarines - not so stored, not so disposed of, what a horror - you have not unloaded fuel from reactors, no one in the world does this.

[Amurets]

Quote: Alexey RA

Gorgeous. And how much stink was from British and British-feeding ecologists about our decommissioned nuclear submarines

So the head of "GREEN" is the English Baron Rothschild and it is necessary to make his head hurt.

[Lelek]

Britain has written off twenty nuclear submarines since 1980, but has not decided what to do with them, writes the Hong Kong-based Asia Times.

There is only one way out - to continue in the same spirit and "bury money in the field of fools."

[Lord of the Sith]

there is only one contractor in the country capable of performing complex and complex work.

Hard work squared?))

Let them send to Russia. We have technologies for processing nuclear waste into fuel elements))

[Tusv]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

Let them send to Russia. We have technologies for processing nuclear waste into fuel elements))

There is, that is, not just about British honor. The capacities themselves are not enough. Unless for 100 billion great British rublez with the allocation to us of its territory for the disposal of each submarine. Only so, and not otherwise

[Lord of the Sith]

What language do you write? Anglo-surzhik? I do not understand anything.
Deign to clarify more clearly))

[Tusv]

You are talking about the technologies that we have, but not about the British honor. I hope so. It’s clear here.
The English currency is called the GBP (great britain pound). The last letter is similar to the Russian "R". This means British rubles.
Rest. They pay money. A lot of. They give us the islands. We build processing reactors there and everyone is happy

[Lord of the Sith]

I have a better idea, let the spent fuel be brought to us, we must be a monopolist in this regard, they will do without reactors))

[cat Rusich]

The British Navy Council: decommissioned submarines, ships or toilets - sell (on credit) the Ukrainian Navy. Following the example of the usa.

[Rzzz]

Nuclear boats. They will cut it - they themselves will rest, and half the country will pollute with littering mud. Nenada !!!

[cat Rusich]

A SNF storage facility has been opened in the ChNPP Exclusion Zone in Ukraine (news from 09.09.2019 from ukraina.ru). So far, they accept domestic spent nuclear fuel (Ukrainian), but the appetite comes with "eating" ...

[Tusv]

Quote: cat Rusich

SNF storage facility opened in Ukraine in the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone (news from 09.09.2019 with ukraina.ru)

Drive a filthy broom with a Yankee with IAEA melobrit. With his springhouse. Let your waste be stored in Hawaii. They do not think with their own exclusive head how to store spent nuclear fuel in Ukraine with theirs Natsik and hereditary ensigns. Sell ​​zhezh

[Thrifty]

As an option, pull them onto land, and use them as attractions

[AU Ivanov.]

A good attraction: whose Geiger counter pops louder.

[parusnik]

Britain has written off twenty nuclear submarines since 1980, but has not decided what to do with them. The fleet has neither an action plan, nor sufficient funding.

... It turns out amazing, not so far ...

[Pavel57]

The Asia Times notes that both the Soviet Union and the United States faced similar problems. But these countries have solved them differently.

Already interesting. China also owns boats with nuclear power plants.

[evgenii67]

What do I mean? 600 tons of nuclear "tails" have already arrived. Let them send the nuclear submarine to us. (sarcasm)

[mvg]

The complete disposal of a nuclear installation alone would cost 96 millions of pounds. As a result, the total cost of the complete elimination of ten existing Royal Navy submarines, and another twenty already decommissioned will amount to almost 10 billion US dollars!

I’m confused with math ... it doesn’t multiply in any way ..

[Thrifty]

There, the figure goes to 960 million dallares! !! Where are the billions from? Or is it such a rollback for cancellation ????

[cniza]

It seems only to blurt out and scare everyone stronger.

[mvg]

Your math is even worse than mine .. 30 times 96 million, about 3 billion pounds, $ 3,8 billion

[Thrifty]

I confess, I counted incorrectly, initially I got the numbers wrong. .

[Brturin]

Quote: mvg

30 times 96 million, about 3 billion pounds, $ 3,8 billion

This is only recycling.

only a nuclear installation

so there is so much besides a nuclear installation (shells, rubber, oils .. toilets (that's where you can save money, there is a client)) .. that's 10 billion.

[cniza]

Are you invited to attract our southern neighbors?

[mvg]

cases, rubber, oils .. toilets

Sell ​​everything, and they will come out as a plus. Or you can upgrade, refuel the reactor, and sell it to Kim

[Amurets]

Quote: mvg

Your math is even worse than mine ..

Quote: Thrifty

I confess, I counted incorrectly, initially I got the numbers wrong. .

What’s the calculator for? If the accounts do not help!

[ABM]

they are not going to fight with us (((
then the aircraft carrier attach strive somewhere, then reduce the armed forces!
we will be lost!
But these are our main enemies (well, except for one overseas country)

[cniza]

They would like, but they just can’t ...

[ABM]

I was there, they don’t want to - it’s yes, but the money is there, like a fool wrappers

[Vkd dvk]

Quote: 8200

Drown off the coast of an enemy state

I think that you will not be able to fish then not far from your home, because it will glow in the afternoon.

[Aliken]

Let the electricity generated are fun. Or, let them sell it to Kazakhstan.

[cniza]

The article evokes a feeling that there is a beginning, and that no one knows further and this problem will soon become global.

[PSih2097]

to give to Afghanistan / Pakistan - let them break a window into the oceans ...

[Klingon]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

Why do we need it? Why mess up the Mediterranean?

that in any way, it does not work to get a benefit? you know how to knock out tugriks from a dead cat, but here they saved - turn on Tom Sawyer, old man

[Metallurg_2]

Give the country 404.

[Barmaleyka]

dumb, let the Ukrainians be sold

[practice]

I heard the guys from Sinaloa were looking ...

[Rwmos]

Give Holopia) True trump for this will not give money. But, on the other hand, to dispose of is expensive. So that -

[Charik]

Putin has experience in dismantling nuclear submarines

[Okolotochny]

The stupidity of smorozoli, make fun of deaths and think yourself smart.

[Charik]

I didn’t write anything about the death of Kursk, the project 941 SSBN says something ?, I don’t think I’m smart, I didn’t finish institutions, you froze

[Lbt21]

She drowned !! Correct if not correctly quoted

[RoTTor]

sell to Ukraine!
Ukraine is a unique country: the “military fleet” is cheating ... TANKIST, illegally called the “admiral.
The Minister of Defense was recently a convoy ass, now - some civilian, they wanted some kind of Amer. take a lieutenant colonel, so he’s not!
Which country, such admirals.

[Vitaly L]

Let them be driven to us, we will rip them apart for their money, like a helping hand to the "Great Britons". How they helped us with the USA ;-)))

[Charik]

Well, they’ve cut their own for their $

[tolmachiev51]

Learn from the Americans, give dill !!!

[Crimean partisan 1974]

Ilon needs a mask to throw the idea of ​​the implementation of submarines popoporvonnikov, he certainly even come up with them

[NF68]

"Present" them to Ukraine. For such a great sea power as Ukraine, such a gift will be just right. Just give without missiles and torpedoes, otherwise you never know what the descendants of the great ukrov will do.