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London does not know what to do with old submarines

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The UK has written off twenty nuclear submarines since 1980, but has not decided what to do with them, writes the Hong Kong-based Asia Times. At fleet there is neither an action plan nor sufficient funding.


None of the decommissioned submarines were disposed of, and out of nine of them, they did not even unload fuel. London spent 500 million pounds (almost 650 million US dollars) on the maintenance of these decommissioned submarines between 1980 and 2017.

The complete disposal of a nuclear installation alone would cost 96 millions of pounds. As a result, the total cost of the complete elimination of ten existing Royal Navy submarines, and another twenty already decommissioned will amount to almost 10 billion US dollars!

The situation is aggravated by the fact that there is only one contractor in the country capable of performing such complex work. In addition, different classes of submarines require a different approach. And one more thing: if in the British civilian sector the nuclear facility disposal schemes were laid down in the project initially, then the military has no such strict requirements, which now leads to certain difficulties.

The Asia Times notes that both the Soviet Union and the United States faced similar problems. But these countries have solved them differently.
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  1. 8200
    8200 25 November 2019 18: 23
    -7
    Drown off the coast of an enemy state
    1. SovAr238A
      SovAr238A 25 November 2019 18: 35
      +8
      Quote: 8200
      Drown off the coast of an enemy state

      Attention to the question: Whose shores do the Angles consider enemy?
      1. Prisoner
        Prisoner 25 November 2019 18: 46
        +8
        The question is rhetorical. winked Another thing is interesting. Whose shores considers 8200 enemy? hi
    2. Tersky
      Tersky 25 November 2019 18: 36
      +9
      Quote: 8200
      Drown off the coast of an enemy state

      There will not be enough boats; the Anglo-Saxons have the whole world - enemy states.
    3. Bykov.
      Bykov. 25 November 2019 19: 03
      +9
      Quote: 8200
      Drown off the coast of an enemy state

      These can. They will drown at Murmansk and say that this is the work of Bashirov and Petrov.
    4. APES
      APES 25 November 2019 19: 13
      +3
      Give to Ukraine lol
      1. Aerodrome
        Aerodrome 25 November 2019 19: 15
        +8
        London does not know what to do with old submarines
        dulls .. used to know, in yellow it is necessary to paint! :
      2. private person
        private person 25 November 2019 19: 25
        0
        It’s just right not to give but to sell, as part of so-called help in protecting the coast.
      3. Felix
        Felix 25 November 2019 20: 33
        0
        Quote: APES
        Give to Ukraine

        Sell ​​to Ukraine.
        1. PSih2097
          PSih2097 25 November 2019 21: 02
          +3
          Quote: Felix
          Quote: APES
          Give to Ukraine

          Sell ​​to Ukraine.

          what for? so that in the end the black sea turns green and lush?
          1. Monar
            Monar 26 November 2019 06: 38
            0
            Will not. Ukraine could not pick up two old boats from the USA for more than a year.
            And here, until they retrain, while they paint, while the toilets change ... 100 years will pass. Either the boats themselves will be drowned there in England, or Ukraine will dig a separate sea specially for them.
            I have big doubts about the sea. laughing
        2. AVA77
          AVA77 25 November 2019 22: 33
          0
          Felix (Felix) Sell to Ukraine.
          Just before the sale, count and take pictures of all the toilets! laughing
    5. Atlant-1164
      Atlant-1164 25 November 2019 19: 43
      +7
      off the coast of the USA ?? they fought among themselves. the Britons lost their colony. these prisoners and slaves.
      1. Starover_Z
        Starover_Z 25 November 2019 21: 02
        +1
        Quote: Atlant-1164
        off the coast of the USA ?? they fought among themselves. the Britons lost their colony. these prisoners and slaves.

        Give Mexico!
    6. Alien From
      Alien From 25 November 2019 22: 19
      0
      Let the brothers give it, and all at once)))) they have recently been delighted with such gifts !!!
    7. Alexander Petrov1
      Alexander Petrov1 26 November 2019 04: 48
      +1
      Of course, it is necessary to dispose of it, because ecology is expensive and then in the event of an environmental disaster, the liquidation of damage will be several times more expensive, as Chernobyl and Fukushima showed ...
  2. Zeev Zeev
    Zeev Zeev 25 November 2019 18: 24
    -9
    Well, you can sell them to someone. Hindus, for example. Or Brazil. Or Australia.
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 25 November 2019 18: 47
      +3
      Zeyevzeev-give them to you lol without transfer right yes
      1. Zeev Zeev
        Zeev Zeev 25 November 2019 19: 16
        0
        Why do we need it? Why mess up the Mediterranean?
        1. Thrifty
          Thrifty 25 November 2019 19: 30
          +2
          Zeev Zeev - "show bulo"! lol Don’t look at a donated submarine under the screw lol You do not wake them on the sea-akeyanu to go, it is painfully expensive. ...but. ..the fact of presence itself will allow you to walk with your heads held high (just look under your feet more often so as not to hit very hard when you fall) !!! lol
          1. Zeev Zeev
            Zeev Zeev 25 November 2019 19: 34
            0
            Cheap Ponte is not for Israel. Dear show off all the more.
            1. Thrifty
              Thrifty 25 November 2019 19: 37
              +1
              Zeev-zeev-presented, so enough to be indignant, say thank you (mentally) and suffer, in the sense, be inherited by the Trojan horse, that is, an English gift! !! lol am
              1. Zeev Zeev
                Zeev Zeev 25 November 2019 19: 45
                -3
                The British are still angry with us that we kicked them in 1948, what gifts?
                1. Thrifty
                  Thrifty 25 November 2019 20: 00
                  +1
                  Zeev zeev - so therefore from their table, that is, the fleet, such an attack in your garden! !! lol
                  1. Zeev Zeev
                    Zeev Zeev 25 November 2019 20: 24
                    -3
                    What for? In the Mediterranean, Red Sea and the Gulf, we have enough German U-boats for our eyes.
                    1. Thrifty
                      Thrifty 25 November 2019 20: 49
                      -1
                      Zeev zeev, you can’t argue with me! !! I am not saying that you should take these boats into the fleet! !! I say that you just have to learn how to make money from the availability of these boats! !! Though films with their participation shoot, at least open stores in them - a business, in any way! !! BASTA !!! am sad wassat
                      1. Zeev Zeev
                        Zeev Zeev 25 November 2019 20: 59
                        +1
                        Oh, it’s not for you to teach us how to make money. No. And it’s okay that they suggested something sensible, otherwise they would make some films. And the store on the Premier League is unlikely to attract anyone. Now, if you make an underwater nuclear power plant from them, and put them off the coast of Gaza ...
            2. Simargl
              Simargl 25 November 2019 20: 46
              +3
              Quote: Zeev Zeev
              Cheap Ponte is not for Israel. Dear show off all the more.
              These are average show-offs. Especially for Israel.
              Cheap show-offs - boats, like ukroreich. Dear - an aircraft carrier.
              1. Zeev Zeev
                Zeev Zeev 25 November 2019 20: 51
                +1
                We generally show off like something unnecessarily. Our fleet is small, it is financed only to the extent necessary. Corvettes, boats and submarines. Diesel.
                1. Old Michael
                  Old Michael 25 November 2019 21: 59
                  +1
                  to: Zeev Zeev
                  I agree with you, or not - it does not matter. But for a consistent argument and elegant departure from Troll butting - a fat plus.
                2. Simargl
                  Simargl 25 November 2019 22: 21
                  +1
                  Quote: Zeev Zeev
                  submarines. Diesel.
                  Well, throw the reactor, stick the diesel ...
                  1. Okolotochny
                    Okolotochny 26 November 2019 00: 34
                    0
                    The cost will come out of a new diesel submarine.
                    1. Simargl
                      Simargl 28 November 2019 12: 52
                      0
                      Quote: Okolotochny
                      The cost will come out of a new diesel submarine.
                      This is a resident of the huckster country: the reactor will sell ... it will also be in the black ...
  3. knn54
    knn54 25 November 2019 18: 34
    +3
    WILL GIVE IN "good" hands, pickup.
    1. Zhan
      Zhan 25 November 2019 19: 37
      -2
      Quote: knn54
      WILL GIVE IN "good" hands, pickup.

      General's slus, save Pasalast, for Shikoka Attash Nama Patlotka, metalam in China, soooo noisy ... lol hi
      Lock the wholesale .. smile
  4. AU Ivanov.
    AU Ivanov. 25 November 2019 18: 34
    -7
    Give it to Ukraine. They will drown them or cut them into metal.
    1. Phil77
      Phil77 25 November 2019 18: 39
      +3
      I draw your attention to the fact that nuclear submarines. And you want to attach them to such new owners. It is dangerous!
  5. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 25 November 2019 18: 39
    0
    I never knew that the fleets also faced such a problem. Live and learn...
    1. VALERIK_097
      VALERIK_097 25 November 2019 18: 54
      +4
      Nazariy, type "Sayda-Lip" PVC in the search engine, you will be pleasantly surprised.
      1. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 25 November 2019 18: 55
        +1
        Thank you, I’ll take a look.
      2. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 25 November 2019 21: 09
        +1
        Odd ... I looked at the photo, read .... Sadness. And what to do with all this legacy ?!
        1. Amurets
          Amurets 26 November 2019 00: 03
          0
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          Sadness. And what to do with all this legacy ?!

          Never mind. Present to Baron Rothschild, without the right to leave the territorial waters of the metropolis and let him turn green with his "GREEN"
        2. VALERIK_097
          VALERIK_097 26 November 2019 09: 46
          0
          Titanium cases have 100 years of sludge (LMW), the rest 75 (VM-A, OK) -75. Almost in every block, containerized low-level solid radioactive waste, the blocks have an additional concrete base. The blocks are not static, it is possible to periodically drive them into the indoor Workshop. There is, as I think, a slight excess in gamma background, unfixed beta-net. Decent physical protection.
          After 75 (100) years, complete utilization of the blocks is expected, which I strongly doubt. I consider the most secure and relatively cheap ground-based storage option for nuclear submarines.
          I can be mistaken, but on the Kola Peninsula there were no RO blocks afloat, the extreme z-s 742 (Project 941) was converted and sent for storage this summer. A program for lifting and unloading the RO (Kara Sea) and the 159th, well, if you shake the Norwegians again
  6. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 25 November 2019 18: 40
    +6
    The UK wrote off twenty nuclear submarines from the 1980 of the year, but has not decided what to do with them, writes the Hong Kong-based Asia Times. The fleet has neither an action plan, nor sufficient funding.
    None of the decommissioned submarines were disposed of, and out of nine of them, they did not even unload fuel. London spent 500 million pounds (almost 650 million US dollars) on the maintenance of these decommissioned submarines between 1980 and 2017.

    Gorgeous. And how much stink was from the British and British feeding ecologists about our decommissioned nuclear submarines - not so stored, not so disposed of, what a horror - you have not unloaded fuel from reactors, no one in the world does this.
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 26 November 2019 00: 08
      0
      Quote: Alexey RA
      Gorgeous. And how much stink was from British and British-feeding ecologists about our decommissioned nuclear submarines

      So the head of "GREEN" is the English Baron Rothschild and it is necessary to make his head hurt.
  7. Lelek
    Lelek 25 November 2019 18: 43
    +3
    Britain has written off twenty nuclear submarines since 1980, but has not decided what to do with them, writes the Hong Kong-based Asia Times.

    There is only one way out - to continue in the same spirit and "bury money in the field of fools." bully
  8. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 25 November 2019 18: 47
    -4
    there is only one contractor in the country capable of performing complex and complex work.


    Hard work squared?))

    Let them send to Russia. We have technologies for processing nuclear waste into fuel elements))
    1. Tusv
      Tusv 25 November 2019 19: 39
      -1
      Quote: Lord of the Sith
      Let them send to Russia. We have technologies for processing nuclear waste into fuel elements))

      There is, that is, not just about British honor. The capacities themselves are not enough. Unless for 100 billion great British rublez with the allocation to us of its territory for the disposal of each submarine. Only so, and not otherwise
      1. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 25 November 2019 19: 42
        0
        What language do you write? Anglo-surzhik? I do not understand anything.
        Deign to clarify more clearly))
        1. Tusv
          Tusv 25 November 2019 20: 21
          +1
          You are talking about the technologies that we have, but not about the British honor. I hope so. It’s clear here.
          The English currency is called the GBP (great britain pound). The last letter is similar to the Russian "R". This means British rubles.
          Rest. They pay money. A lot of. They give us the islands. We build processing reactors there and everyone is happy hi
          1. Lord of the Sith
            Lord of the Sith 26 November 2019 11: 55
            +1
            I have a better idea, let the spent fuel be brought to us, we must be a monopolist in this regard, they will do without reactors))
  9. cat Rusich
    cat Rusich 25 November 2019 18: 49
    -3
    The British Navy Council: decommissioned submarines, ships or toilets - sell (on credit) the Ukrainian Navy. Following the example of the usa.
    1. Rzzz
      Rzzz 25 November 2019 20: 41
      +1
      Nuclear boats. They will cut it - they themselves will rest, and half the country will pollute with littering mud. Nenada !!!
      1. cat Rusich
        cat Rusich 25 November 2019 21: 07
        0
        A SNF storage facility has been opened in the ChNPP Exclusion Zone in Ukraine (news from 09.09.2019 from ukraina.ru). So far, they accept domestic spent nuclear fuel (Ukrainian), but the appetite comes with "eating" ...
        1. Tusv
          Tusv 25 November 2019 21: 42
          0
          Quote: cat Rusich
          SNF storage facility opened in Ukraine in the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone (news from 09.09.2019 with ukraina.ru)

          Drive a filthy broom with a Yankee with IAEA melobrit. With his springhouse. Let your waste be stored in Hawaii. They do not think with their own exclusive head how to store spent nuclear fuel in Ukraine with theirs Natsik and hereditary ensigns. Sell ​​zhezh
  10. Thrifty
    Thrifty 25 November 2019 18: 50
    0
    As an option, pull them onto land, and use them as attractions belay
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 25 November 2019 19: 27
      +5
      A good attraction: whose Geiger counter pops louder.
  11. parusnik
    parusnik 25 November 2019 18: 52
    +4
    Britain has written off twenty nuclear submarines since 1980, but has not decided what to do with them. The fleet has neither an action plan, nor sufficient funding.
    ... It turns out amazing, not so far ... smile
  12. Pavel57
    Pavel57 25 November 2019 18: 54
    0
    The Asia Times notes that both the Soviet Union and the United States faced similar problems. But these countries have solved them differently.

    Already interesting. China also owns boats with nuclear power plants.
  13. evgenii67
    evgenii67 25 November 2019 18: 57
    0
    What do I mean? 600 tons of nuclear "tails" have already arrived. Let them send the nuclear submarine to us. (sarcasm)
  14. mvg
    mvg 25 November 2019 19: 02
    -3
    The complete disposal of a nuclear installation alone would cost 96 millions of pounds. As a result, the total cost of the complete elimination of ten existing Royal Navy submarines, and another twenty already decommissioned will amount to almost 10 billion US dollars!

    I’m confused with math ... it doesn’t multiply in any way .. what
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 25 November 2019 19: 34
      +2
      There, the figure goes to 960 million dallares! !! Where are the billions from? Or is it such a rollback for cancellation ???? belay
      1. cniza
        cniza 25 November 2019 20: 48
        +2
        It seems only to blurt out and scare everyone stronger.
    2. mvg
      mvg 25 November 2019 19: 38
      -2
      Your math is even worse than mine .. winked 30 times 96 million, about 3 billion pounds, $ 3,8 billion
      1. Thrifty
        Thrifty 25 November 2019 20: 04
        -1
        I confess, I counted incorrectly, initially I got the numbers wrong. .
      2. Brturin
        Brturin 25 November 2019 20: 30
        +3
        Quote: mvg
        30 times 96 million, about 3 billion pounds, $ 3,8 billion

        This is only recycling.
        only a nuclear installation
        so there is so much besides a nuclear installation (shells, rubber, oils .. toilets (that's where you can save money, there is a client)) .. that's 10 billion.
        1. cniza
          cniza 25 November 2019 20: 47
          +3
          Are you invited to attract our southern neighbors?
        2. mvg
          mvg 25 November 2019 21: 05
          -4
          cases, rubber, oils .. toilets

          Sell ​​everything, and they will come out as a plus. Or you can upgrade, refuel the reactor, and sell it to Kim
      3. Amurets
        Amurets 26 November 2019 00: 16
        0
        Quote: mvg
        Your math is even worse than mine ..

        Quote: Thrifty
        I confess, I counted incorrectly, initially I got the numbers wrong. .

        What’s the calculator for? If the accounts do not help!
  15. ABM
    ABM 25 November 2019 19: 03
    0
    they are not going to fight with us (((
    then the aircraft carrier attach strive somewhere, then reduce the armed forces!
    we will be lost!
    But these are our main enemies (well, except for one overseas country)
    1. cniza
      cniza 25 November 2019 20: 46
      +2
      They would like, but they just can’t ...
      1. ABM
        ABM 25 November 2019 20: 54
        +1
        I was there, they don’t want to - it’s yes, but the money is there, like a fool wrappers
  16. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 25 November 2019 19: 37
    +4
    Quote: 8200
    Drown off the coast of an enemy state

    I think that you will not be able to fish then not far from your home, because it will glow in the afternoon.
  17. Aliken
    Aliken 25 November 2019 20: 10
    0
    Let the electricity generated are fun. Or, let them sell it to Kazakhstan.
  18. cniza
    cniza 25 November 2019 20: 45
    +2
    The article evokes a feeling that there is a beginning, and that no one knows further and this problem will soon become global.
  19. PSih2097
    PSih2097 25 November 2019 21: 06
    +1
    to give to Afghanistan / Pakistan - let them break a window into the oceans ...
  20. Klingon
    Klingon 25 November 2019 21: 28
    0
    Quote: Zeev Zeev
    Why do we need it? Why mess up the Mediterranean?

    that in any way, it does not work to get a benefit? you know how to knock out tugriks from a dead cat, but here they saved - turn on Tom Sawyer, old man wassat
  21. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 25 November 2019 21: 57
    0
    Give the country 404.
  22. Barmaleyka
    Barmaleyka 25 November 2019 22: 00
    +1
    dumb, let the Ukrainians be sold
  23. practice
    practice 25 November 2019 22: 28
    0
    I heard the guys from Sinaloa were looking ...
  24. Rwmos
    Rwmos 25 November 2019 23: 20
    +1
    Give Holopia) True trump for this will not give money. But, on the other hand, to dispose of is expensive. So that -
  25. Charik
    Charik 25 November 2019 23: 35
    -5
    Putin has experience in dismantling nuclear submarines
    1. Okolotochny
      Okolotochny 26 November 2019 00: 36
      0
      The stupidity of smorozoli, make fun of deaths and think yourself smart.
      1. Charik
        Charik 26 November 2019 03: 30
        -1
        I didn’t write anything about the death of Kursk, the project 941 SSBN says something ?, I don’t think I’m smart, I didn’t finish institutions, you froze
    2. Lbt21
      Lbt21 26 November 2019 06: 13
      0
      She drowned !! Correct if not correctly quoted
  26. RoTTor
    RoTTor 26 November 2019 00: 39
    0
    sell to Ukraine!
    Ukraine is a unique country: the “military fleet” is cheating ... TANKIST, illegally called the “admiral.
    The Minister of Defense was recently a convoy ass, now - some civilian, they wanted some kind of Amer. take a lieutenant colonel, so he’s not!
    Which country, such admirals.
  27. Vitaly L
    Vitaly L 26 November 2019 04: 33
    0
    Let them be driven to us, we will rip them apart for their money, like a helping hand to the "Great Britons". How they helped us with the USA ;-)))
    1. Charik
      Charik 26 November 2019 05: 13
      0
      Well, they’ve cut their own for their $
  28. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 26 November 2019 04: 37
    0
    Learn from the Americans, give dill !!!
  29. Crimean partisan 1974
    Crimean partisan 1974 26 November 2019 13: 57
    0
    Ilon needs a mask to throw the idea of ​​the implementation of submarines popoporvonnikov, he certainly even come up with them
  30. NF68
    NF68 26 November 2019 15: 52
    0
    "Present" them to Ukraine. For such a great sea power as Ukraine, such a gift will be just right. Just give without missiles and torpedoes, otherwise you never know what the descendants of the great ukrov will do.