On board the "Admiral Gorshkov" noticed TPK hypersonic missiles "Zircon"

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A few days ago, as reported in one of the news materials "Voennoye Obozreniye", project 22350 frigate "Admiral fleet Soviet Union Gorshkov ”(hereinafter referred to as“ Admiral Gorshkov ”) went on arms tests in the Barents Sea.

The frigate, which was commissioned by the Russian Navy at the end of July last year, was captured with missile weapons on board.



Against the background of statements that tests are being carried out on the Zircon hypersonic anti-ship armament, experts suggested: the very Zircons on board the warship.

We are talking about two containers located in the stern of the frigate. They are placed on a special platform (you can see the containers in the photo above and in the movie of Zvezda shopping center below).

Some users were skeptical of the version that this is how modern hypersonic missiles that are being tested can be located on a ship. At the same time, skeptics for some reason decided that the transport and launch containers (TPK) were simply “thrown” on the deck (on the “helipad”) and that there was no hydraulic platform for subsequent launch under them.

Imagine a graphic image that, as previously reported, corresponds to the Zircon hypersonic anti-ship missile container:


As you can see, the TPK depicted in the illustration is consistent with what is seen in the frames with the frigate Admiral Gorshkov.


Preliminary test results have not yet been reported.
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  1. +40
    25 November 2019 15: 12
    I will not comment on anything. There are photos and videos of cigar-shaped containers. That's all. But breaking virtual spears is not grateful.
    1. -12
      25 November 2019 15: 15
      Now, if pulled with zircon, then yes, the states will burn their pants
      1. +3
        25 November 2019 23: 32
        experts suggested: on board the warship - the very same “Zircons”

        Well, experts ...
        Maybe even with a diploma ...
        I recall the humoresque with Galustyan, where he was asked: "Do you have higher education? - Three higher education. - And where did you work before? - In the subway, traded diplomas."
        laughing
    2. +2
      25 November 2019 15: 32
      So they should be there, because now there will be tests from his side.
      1. +1
        25 November 2019 19: 09
        So they should be there, because now there will be tests from his side.

        There will be no tests on board.
        They will be from a special platform.
        Therefore, TPK on deck, and not in UKKS. hi
        1. -7
          26 November 2019 12: 40
          Quote: Alex777
          Therefore, TPK on deck, and not in UKKS.

          what is the point then to deliver them on board the frigate of project 22350 "Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Gorshkov" (where there is not even a dead crane)
          ?
          Cheaper, more reasonable is a special test vessel for the Navy, built on the basis of maritime weapons transport pr. 1823/24 with a crane with a lifting capacity of 3,2 tons.

          or maritime weapons transport 20180TV “Academician Kovalev”



          Quote: Alex777
          They will be from a special platform.


          and you saw a platform (BARGE) with UKKS? Do we have them?
          1. 0
            26 November 2019 16: 08
            ... and you saw a platform (BARGE) from UKKS? Do we have them?

            First: I didn’t come up with platforms. bully
            Second:
            Judging by the tragic incidents, after which the President receives relatives of the dead testers in the Kremlin, there are platforms.
            Why did you decide that the launch from the platform would be vertical?
            Why did you decide that there is no crane on the platform?
            On a frigate - safer and faster than on everything that you listed IMHO. hi
            1. -7
              26 November 2019 17: 55
              Quote: Alex777
              First: I didn’t come up with platforms.

              Who?
              It was only:
              26.11.2019 TSAMTO
              The frigate "Admiral Gorshkov" arrived at the White Sea naval base of the Northern Fleet to test new types of weapons
              The lead frigate of project 23 "Admiral of the Soviet Union Fleet Gorshkov" arrived at the White Sea naval base of the Northern Fleet on November 22350. In the near future, in Severodvinsk, the ship will undergo preparations for testing new types of weapons and will leave for the White Sea for test firing.

              the rest, incl. and about "Zircon", from the evil one
              Quote: Alex777
              in the Kremlin - there are platforms.

              The Kremlin has a lot of things / who is, liars including
              "platforms"

              are these sholi
              Quote: Alex777
              Why did you decide that there is no crane on the platform?

              definitely not.
              I saw the platform. And it's silly to put a crane on it.
              "something went wrong" and gurgle, or "this is what death looks like" - no tap. it is not rational that we have cranes, and there are so few floating cranes.
              Quote: Alex777
              On a frigate - safer and faster than on everything that you listed IMHO.

              therefore, if they test rockets, then from him from UKKS (and before that many, many times on the ground, from the same UKKS).
              The frigate is not SSBN and SSBN, will not drown from one launch.
              A Kremlin to believe, do not respect yourself
              1. 0
                26 November 2019 20: 30
                A Kremlin to believe, do not respect yourself

                Especially for those who do not know how to search and read.
                No need to answer - I'm not interested. bully
                https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/7177235
                1. -7
                  26 November 2019 20: 51
                  Quote: Alex777
                  Especially for those who do not know how to search and read.
                  No need to answer - I'm not interested

                  I can read
                  This was reported to TASS on Friday by a source in the power structures of the North-West Federal District

                  -I'm not hard to answer

                  The source added that a special booth based on the pontoon is being prepared, from which the latest rocket will be fired.

                  good
                  for this 2a zircon "aboard the frigate of project 22350" Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Gorshkov "".
                  all right, all right
                  Quote: Alex777
                  On a frigate - safer and faster
    3. +4
      25 November 2019 15: 56
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      But breaking virtual spears is not grateful.

      that there is another reason! Varshavyanka for the Pacific Fleet, Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky took part in the Navy !!!!
  2. +4
    25 November 2019 15: 14
    "Calibers" opened the Caspian Sea to the whole world, "Zircons" opened the White smile
  3. +6
    25 November 2019 15: 15
    Woke up! On VO, as usual, the news is laid out in a week!
    1. +4
      25 November 2019 15: 21
      Quote: Popuas
      Woke up! On VO, as usual, the news is laid out in a week!

      This is fearless, given that some news in a day, two are refuted. It’s not very interesting to discuss fried facts.
  4. +35
    25 November 2019 15: 17
    It seems that now we will see zircon in any smaller "pipe-like" container, and Poseidon in a larger one .. Are there really such naive people who believe that the frigate will go for tests with containers of super-secret missiles not installed in the UKSK?
    1. -9
      25 November 2019 15: 39
      Andrey from Chelyabinsk - it is possible that the prototype missiles differ from the Syrian ones in terms of mass and size parameters. The main thing in launching is control of the missile's flight, its work on the target. And then, based on the result, the missiles will be "adjusted" to the container of the ship itself. The prototype can fly much further than the stated figures, based on its dimensions, the rocket will then be reduced so that the finished product with the upper stage can easily be placed in the native launcher of the warship. And the rocket in the final version will fly exactly that distance, in contrast to the prototype, which is officially declared. ..
      1. +19
        25 November 2019 15: 47
        and now they will let me off my shoulder?
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      3. +2
        25 November 2019 15: 53
        Quote: Thrifty
        And then, and proceeding from the result, the missiles will be "adjusted" to the container of the ship itself.

        All this is complicated. Doesn't mean, of course, that it can't be, but what for? Moreover, to install the "imperfection" (according to your version) on a regular carrier in the "wrong" place.
    2. 0
      25 November 2019 16: 25
      No one would risk the prototype of a secret rocket by loading it into the sea with another vessel - if this is a TPK "for loading" at sea, then it is without a rocket: the guys will moor in a log and work out loading while rolling. hi
    3. -5
      25 November 2019 17: 44
      That's just for security reasons they were not installed in UKKS
    4. +3
      25 November 2019 18: 41
      Are there really so naive people who believe that the frigate will test with containers of super-secret missiles not installed in the UKKS?

      Not only that, they also write articles for VO :)
  5. -6
    25 November 2019 15: 18
    That is, transport and launch containers initially differ from purely launch containers, and at least it wasn’t enough to close them with an awning? Now, around this long-suffering ship, the planes of NATO spies will flock in herds, they will also try to chase the missile, at least a little, if only to get a more qualitative photo in the end.
    1. +6
      25 November 2019 15: 23
      Quote: Thrifty
      That is, transport and launch containers initially differ from purely launch containers, and at least it wasn’t enough to close them with an awning? Now, around this long-suffering ship, the planes of NATO spies will flock in herds, they will also try to chase the missile, at least a little, if only to get a more qualitative photo in the end.

      If you would like to conceal, then we would not publish photos.
      1. +8
        25 November 2019 15: 57
        Quote: 1976AG
        If you would like to conceal, then we would not publish photos ...

        ... and show a movie! Or maybe they want to see "something?"
        And then everyone thinks to the extent of their imagination
        1. +2
          25 November 2019 15: 58
          Quote: Silvestr
          Quote: 1976AG
          If you would like to conceal, then we would not publish photos ...

          ... and show a movie! Or maybe they want to see "something?"
          And then everyone thinks to the extent of their imagination

          So.
    2. +6
      25 November 2019 16: 06
      Quote: Thrifty
      and at least to close them with an awning, wasn’t there enough mind?

      =====
      WHAT FOR??? Maybe it was SPECIALLY that they were "demonstrated"?
      ------
      Quote: Thrifty
      Now, around this long-suffering ship, the planes of NATO spies will flock in herds, they will also try to chase the missile, at least a little, if only to get a more qualitative photo in the end.

      =======
      Yeah! Is it in the White Sea? (Where actually tests should be conducted ...) ... I would like to see how they (NATO aircraft) - THERE (in the White Sea) FLY, and point - HOW are they FROM THERE (from the White Sea) "Fly out"will be !!! laughing lol wassat
      1. mvg
        -6
        25 November 2019 18: 56
        HOW they HAVE FROM THERE (from the White Sea) will "FLY" !!!

        Suppose that through the air ... elementary.
  6. +7
    25 November 2019 15: 18
    The assumption is certainly interesting. But, the question arises, and on ... Ahem ... on a fig on utah (stern) transport and launch containers. How are they going to load rockets into launchers at sea? Hands? Or simply Zircons decided to ride ...! Maybe I understood something ...
    1. -4
      25 November 2019 15: 22
      30vis - means rockets will not be launched directly from the ship,
      , or, for example, maybe somewhere there is a platform, through it in the open sea rockets will be loaded into the launch tubes of the ship.
      1. -2
        25 November 2019 15: 55
        It seems like that. But, I think, they will be loaded onto some ferry in the middle of the sea. It will be installed vertically and fired.
        A frigate is just a carrier.
        1. +4
          25 November 2019 17: 21
          Quote: voyaka uh
          A frigate is just a carrier.

          ??? is it economically viable ??
          Quote: voyaka uh
          It will be installed vertically and fired.

          Who? Gorshkov install? - No, that means there will be a support vessel, so why then take it to Gorshkov?
        2. +1
          25 November 2019 18: 44
          A frigate is just a carrier.

          And what is the meaning of this action?

          But overall the design is very strange.
          1. 0
            25 November 2019 21: 22
            You +: the question is very out of place
        3. mvg
          -4
          25 November 2019 18: 58
          A frigate is just a carrier

          A little expensive transport, doesn’t it? For the sake of 2 tons of cargo.
          1. 0
            26 November 2019 06: 32
            Frigate for guarding and patrolling the test area. And to transport such a tasty cargo is safer with armed guards. What's wrong?
            1. mvg
              -3
              27 November 2019 10: 19
              tasty cargo is safer with armed guards. What's wrong

              So they shouted that the White Sea is the territorial waters of Russia. Why be afraid? How do you imagine the capture of cargo? But what our military can drive Kuzya to the ends of the world to entertain the Papuans, I already know. They don’t count money. Or Tu 160 in South Africa
              1. 0
                27 November 2019 10: 30
                Quote: mvg
                What to fear?

                Unhealthy paranoia saves many health. Such a pun. Google statistics from what more died: from indifference or forethought?
    2. 0
      25 November 2019 15: 54
      Quote: 30 vis
      The assumption is certainly interesting. But, the question arises, and on ... Ahem ... on a fig on utah (stern) transport and launch containers. How are they going to load rockets into launchers at sea? Hands? Or simply Zircons decided to ride ...! Maybe I understood something ...

      But just in order for some people to break their heads they did) And they themselves look from the side at how they break their heads and giggle)
    3. +1
      25 November 2019 22: 28
      Quote: 30 vis
      The assumption is certainly interesting. But, the question arises, and on ... Ahem ... on a fig on utah (stern) transport and launch containers. How are they going to load rockets into launchers at sea? Hands? Or simply Zircons decided to ride ...! Maybe I understood something ...

      Or maybe they are already loaded and TPK are empty? I don’t know why they are lying around in Utah, but it’s worth a little wait and we’ll find out the truth. If the tests are successful, then they will not hide it.
  7. +3
    25 November 2019 15: 19
    If it were a weapon, then
    1. It would be under an awning
    2. Special people would take out the spine of the photographer at the time of the picture.
    3. Are these hand-held containers? Or how is it planned to charge a probable missile into a launcher?
    1. -7
      25 November 2019 15: 31
      Most likely, these are really containers with missiles, and the missiles will be launched after they are reloaded into the launch containers of the ship.
      1. 0
        26 November 2019 04: 02
        Quote: Thrifty
        launch containers

        cells, not containers. A container for missiles or transport, from where launch is impossible, or transport and launch, and then what is the point of transferring the missile back and forth.
  8. -2
    25 November 2019 15: 39
    Quote: Thrall
    "Calibers" opened the Caspian Sea to the whole world, "Zircons" opened the White smile

    Good, capacious expression.
  9. 0
    25 November 2019 15: 53
    Perhaps at the right point, weapons transport will fit and load into the launcher.
    Maybe this is part of the test, or you need to do this for one reason or another. So, that is not covered by an awning and there is a leak of information, that means they want partners to know and maybe this is also a maneuver in order to drive everyone on the wrong track.
    1. +1
      25 November 2019 17: 07
      In any case, something has already been done with these containers. According to the Ministry of Defense, helicopters landed on the helipad today.
  10. 0
    25 November 2019 15: 58
    hmm. did they also realize loading there using hangar equipment for a helicopter, or did they just shove an uncanny a la crane into the hangar? then for the implementation of reloading at sea I applaud while standing. but how does it teleport to the bow ...?
  11. +4
    25 November 2019 16: 01
    can trim align?
    1. +1
      25 November 2019 21: 50
      The most logical assumption among the comments so far.
  12. +4
    25 November 2019 17: 03
    I haven't laughed like that for a long time))) That "Poseidon" will be seen on peaceful transport, now "Zircon" ...
    1. 0
      25 November 2019 19: 07
      And then at a military training ground they will see a column of green garbage trucks and say that it is "Peresvet".
  13. -5
    25 November 2019 17: 48
    Zircon is a myth symbol ... another. like Armata ... only a rocket will release a couple of copies and will boast again!
    1. +1
      25 November 2019 21: 17
      Quite right, but "Admiral Gorshkov" is actually glued from cardboard?
      1. 0
        25 November 2019 22: 31
        Quote: Astra wild
        Quite right, but "Admiral Gorshkov" is actually glued from cardboard?

        Yes nooo. Polyfoam steers.
  14. 0
    25 November 2019 17: 57
    Quote: Dmitry Medvedev_2
    Zircon is a myth symbol ... another. like Armata ... only a rocket will release a couple of copies and will boast again!

    It is necessary to convince the Americans of this)
  15. 0
    25 November 2019 18: 08
    Maybe "Zircon", maybe "Miniposeidon", maybe Russian "Guaydon" ...
    Who cares?..
    Work is underway on the combat training of the frigate.
    Good Luck!
    1. +1
      25 November 2019 21: 13
      Sergeant Major Siebert, where are your brave assistants: Dovger, Lisovskaya? Joke. I just read the book "In the woods near Rivne" and remembered these girls
      1. 0
        26 November 2019 08: 16
        Probably not the "foreman", but the "old man". wink And the girls continue to execute orders - to liberate Ukraine from fascist evil spirits ...
        1. +1
          27 November 2019 19: 46
          Paul, I didn’t make a reservation, you have the shoulder straps of foreman Poka (I want to become an officer sooner). Our site uses Soviet-Russian insignia.
          Perhaps you know who the title was Nikolai Ivanovich Kuznetsov? Indeed, Gnatyuk also writes, somewhere I heard that Kuznetsov by June 1941 was already an employee of the NKVD or the NKGB. I was not interested in such details
          1. 0
            27 November 2019 20: 27
            Astra is here, on the site I am the foreman! And so - Hauptmann. (Captain) smile
  16. 0
    25 November 2019 18: 09
    "as reported in one of the news bulletins of Voyennoye Obozreniye, the frigate of Project 22350 Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Gorshkov (hereinafter Admiral Gorshkov) went into arms testing in Barencevo sea."(with)
    "Russian frigate of the Northern Fleet "Admiral Gorshkov" arrived at White Sea to test new missile weapons. This was reported by the press service of the Federation Council.
    According to the message, the frigate arrived on Belomorsk naval base, where preparations for testing a new missile weapon will take place. Firing will be held at one of the naval ranges of the Northern Fleet.
    "(c) https://topwar.ru/165052-fregat-admiral-gorshkov-pribyl-v-beloe-more-dlja-ispytanij-novogo-oruzhija.html
    So where did the frigate arrive? And did he arrive at all? Maybe just photoshop?
  17. 0
    25 November 2019 20: 46
    Hedgehog it is clear that Zircon will be suspended under a helicopter.
    Finka F-48U complex.
    The declared range of 1000 km is provided by a helicopter - 500 km and Zircon - the same.
  18. 0
    25 November 2019 21: 07
    "for some reason, the skeptics decided that the TPK was simply" thrown "to this, I see an explanation: oh, how someone does not want (why I do not know) that our aircrafts
    had the latest weapons and they will lie to the last.
  19. -2
    25 November 2019 21: 26
    Quote: mvg
    A frigate is just a carrier

    A little expensive transport, doesn’t it? For the sake of 2 tons of cargo.

    This is to please Mr. Navalny, he’s constantly cracking that we are transferring money to the arms race
  20. -3
    26 November 2019 01: 19
    Cartoons about missiles are no longer believed. We decided to publish photos of various containers on the decks of ships. Some ur-patriots pour a balm on the souls of fermented patriots that these are trials. And now, the Americans, certainly in the pants impose from fear. So it seems, SamGoKto, during the show of cartoons, said that the missiles were adopted. What are the challenges now?
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  21. +1
    26 November 2019 04: 51
    what big-eyed!