“Russia ignores attacks, there are doubts about its role as a guarantor”: Kurdish groups make accusations


The pro-American Kurdish group, calling itself the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDS), accused the Russian military police of inaction in the Turkish troops and the so-called SSA attacks on the city of Ain Issa.


SDS representatives made a statement saying that the Turkish army and pro-Turkish mercenaries attacked Ain-Issa from three directions, using Aviation and artillery weapons. It is stated that the SDS units entered the battle.

It is further stated that the Turkish attack "occurred in front of the Russian military."

From the statement:

Russian forces position themselves as a guarantor of a ceasefire. But they did not take measures to stop the barbaric Turkish invasion. Ignoring the attacks of the Russian troops, the inability to perform the declared functions, causes the Syrian democratic forces to doubt the ability to be a guarantor of the non-use of military force.

It is further stated that the SDS also “has doubts” about Russia's ability to provide a political settlement throughout Syria.

This SDS statement looks like a propaganda step to discredit the mission of the Russian military police in northern Syria. Against the backdrop of numerous attacks on military patrols of the Russian Federation with the involvement of even young children, a general provocative picture emerges, which may well be supported by those who positioned themselves as “the main ally of the SDS”.

It is worth noting that one of the SDS units carried out an attack on the object of the Turkish forces in Tel Abyad. As a result, the object was burned, three people died. The SDS claims that this is their response to "Turkish persecution of Kurdish women in the occupied territories."
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  1. tihonmarine 25 November 2019 06: 28 New
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    Russian forces position themselves as a guarantor of a ceasefire. But they did not take measures to stop the barbaric Turkish invasion.
    And when you attacked the Russian patrols, then you gentlemen forgot about the "guarantee of a ceasefire." And now, "Help our beating!" Well, then there is a desire to invite "homies" from Uncle Sam's nephews. You really understand what you need, peace or war.
    1. APES 25 November 2019 06: 33 New
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      when you attacked Russian patrols, then you

      These are links of one chain.
      1. krot 25 November 2019 06: 42 New
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        In my opinion, the military police do not have the authority to engage in full-scale hostilities between the parties. And the usual positioning of their strength, and the prevention of gangster and marauding formations.
        1. Nick 25 November 2019 07: 05 New
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          Quote: krot
          In my opinion, the military police do not have the authority to engage in full-scale hostilities between the parties. And the usual positioning of their strength, and the prevention of gangster and marauding formations.

          And how can police forces that have only light weapons prevent air raids or shelling?
          1. Vladimir16 25 November 2019 07: 57 New
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            Barmalei howled at the fact that they began to destroy.
            Terrorists are being destroyed.
            Either you serve in the Syrian army, or you are a terrorist. There is no third.

            The Americans threw you.
            1. Azad 25 November 2019 08: 20 New
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              Yeah. Now you will give a link to an official document on the basis of which Damascus recognizes us as terrorists. Thank.
              1. Amin_vivec 25 November 2019 10: 43 New
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                There is enough court verdict.
                Attacking a police officer is prohibited by Syrian criminal law - they are at least criminals. But throwing police equipment with Molotov cocktails pulls or not for a terrorist act, the investigation should figure it out.
                1. Azad 25 November 2019 11: 57 New
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                  Which court? Did they attack the Syrian police or military? Although of course. There may be an article in the Syrian Criminal Code for attacking the Russian military police or the Turkish military. Then of course you give a link to this article.
                  1. KLM77 25 November 2019 12: 19 New
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                    What kind of short memory do you have? Have you forgotten whom the SDS fought against and why is this so-called “opposition” armed?
                    1. Azad 25 November 2019 14: 21 New
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                      Who are we fighting against?
                      1. krot 25 November 2019 19: 28 New
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                        Yeah. Now you will give a link to an official document on the basis of which Damascus recognizes us as terrorists

                        You are a strange person! When it’s only profitable for you, ask for official documents and legal justifications, and when it isn’t profitable, talk about the requests of unrecognized Kurdish leaders who have been under the stripes for decades .. Why should Russia ignore official Damascus and fight for Kurds with Turks or someone still ?
                  2. Amin_vivec 25 November 2019 20: 43 New
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                    Syrian court naturally.
                    The Russian military police on legal grounds in Syria, on the basis of an international agreement between the countries, and has an official status - which means they are just policemen for you. Turkish - they understandably have no international status - they are occupiers for you, or combatants, as you want.
                    But then again, that the Syrian police, that the Russian - it doesn’t matter, they don’t stop being people from this, which means killing, causing harm to health, etc. - outright criminality ...
                    1. Azad 26 November 2019 07: 26 New
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                      Why do you have to repeat several times? There may be an article in the Syrian Criminal Code for attacking the Russian military police or the Turkish military. Then of course you give a link to this article.
                      1. KLM77 26 November 2019 12: 37 New
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                        Cite Syrian law that allows "opposition" to arm themselves?
                      2. Azad 28 November 2019 03: 42 New
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                        That is, citizens can not arm themselves to protect themselves from terrorists, given the actual collapse of state structures? Oh well.
            2. kjhg 25 November 2019 12: 28 New
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              Quote: Azad
              Damascus recognizes us as terrorists.

              Azad, are you a Kurdish militia?
              1. Azad 25 November 2019 14: 22 New
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                IFB International Battalion of Freedom. So what?
                1. kjhg 25 November 2019 17: 40 New
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                  Quote: Azad
                  So what?

                  Nothing, it's just interesting to hear your side, how you see the situation from that side. In Russia, it is not often possible to hear the opinion of the Kurds on this conflict. More served the position of the Turks, Assad, etc.
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                  IFB International Freedom Battalion

                  I have not heard about this. Does it refer to the SDF, or in itself, a separate territorial defense battalion?
                  1. Azad 25 November 2019 18: 31 New
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                    This is us. Enter the SDF.
                    And I am Russian. Azad is my call sign. Although the name too.
                    1. kjhg 25 November 2019 19: 03 New
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                      Quote: Azad
                      This is us. Enter the SDF.
                      And I am Russian. Azad is my call sign. Although the name too.

                      Very interesting. Please tell us in more detail, if you have time, about your battalion. That which is not secret of course))
                      - Why do almost all emblems have a hammer and sickle, and also a star? Do you still have communism?
                      - How are your battalions formed? On a territorial basis?
                      - Where do you speak Russian so well from?
                      - How do you feel about the operation of the Russian military police in your territory? We, like you, are saving us from the Turkish genocide, although we are returning Assad to power. At least with us it is so issued. Or is this option unacceptable to you and are you ready to stay one-on-one with the Turks?
                      I still have many questions. It is very interesting to hear the point of view of the Syrian Kurds. But for now, I think, enough for a start.
                    2. Azad 25 November 2019 19: 18 New
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                      There is no time yet. A lot of work.
                    3. kjhg 25 November 2019 19: 20 New
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                      It is clear, therefore, he wrote "if there is time." Well, there will be time - write, we will be happy hi
                  2. Azad 28 November 2019 03: 48 New
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                    1. Because we are left. Communists, anarchists, Maoists, socialists.
                    2. YPG-YPY, MFS, Desteya Parastin basically yes.
                    3. No way. That you, that the Americans are the same for us.
      2. sniperino 25 November 2019 10: 06 New
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        Quote: Vladimir16
        Either you serve in the Syrian army, or you are a terrorist.
        The Kurds have a very strong tribal structure with their elders and disagreements on the councils. What the older ones say, the youth does. Among children and even adults, a popular memory contest is popular: who will remember more than their ancestors. They have a lot to learn from us. But it is impossible to smear all with one paint. However, this requirement is also true for organizationally more united peoples. Terrorists are destroyed, they fight against provocateurs through the elders of the clans, they are engaged in prevention with tribal councils, and they conclude agreements.
      3. Alien From 25 November 2019 10: 32 New
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        Mattresses through such provocations are trying to give us a fuck! Ours are not conducted and are doing the right thing!
  2. vic02 25 November 2019 11: 47 New
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    the military police do not have the authority to engage in full-scale hostilities between the parties
    Here the question is not to the police, but to the country's leadership and the implementation of the agreements. If the Turks and non-Turks do not violate the agreement, then it is good, but if they violate, then the answer should be! If the police are not able to answer, the army should be used, as in Georgia in the year 8. Otherwise, this role is not a peacemaker, but some kind of plywood cover.
  3. maidan.izrailovich 25 November 2019 12: 38 New
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    In my opinion, the military police do not have the authority to engage in full-scale hostilities ...

    So this is the key point in this situation. And yet, as other commentators have already noticed, there is insufficient armament for serious clashes.
    And also, apparently, those who initiated the participation of our military police in this patrol did not look so far. Apparently, we do not have clear decisions on how to act in these circumstances. And again a question. But why do we climb into the Kurdish problem?
    1. sniperino 25 November 2019 18: 54 New
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      Quote: maidan.izrailovich
      Apparently, we do not have clear decisions on how to act in these circumstances.
      Judging by what "everything"?
  4. orionvitt 25 November 2019 14: 40 New
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    Pro-American Kurdish group
    Why go further? That says it all. There will be tons of lies, unfounded accusations, provocations and other indecency. Everyone who associates with the Americans immediately falls to the lowest level of thinking and development.
  • rocket757 25 November 2019 06: 43 New
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    A pro-American Kurdish group calling itself Syrian Democratic Forces

    What and with whom we agreed, is pfe-e-e.
    The whole point of the "work" of our military is to regain control of the Syrian government over the entire territory of the state !!!
    What and how they thought up it, fantasized, they were all sorts of different, it’s really PFE-EE !!! for everyone else!
    1. Azad 25 November 2019 07: 41 New
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      The whole point of the "work" of our military is to regain control of the Syrian government over the entire territory of the state !!!

      Great. Only how can Russian-Turkish patrols contribute to this, given that for official Damascus the Turks are the aggressors and occupiers with whom the Syrian army is fighting? Ap ...
      1. rocket757 25 November 2019 07: 53 New
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        Quote: Azad
        Only how can Russian-Turkish patrols contribute to this, given that for official Damascus the Turks are the aggressors and occupiers with whom the Syrian army is fighting? Ap ...

        And the Kurdish leaders are in a hurry to return under the control of the STATE OF SYRIA, or what? The minke whales are prettier to them .... here on this normal conversations / negotiations end, TURKISH PATROLS begin!
        It is ridiculous to listen to all kinds of divorces, like you should protect us from the Turks, but we will be friends / servants with minke whales ... do you yourself understand what the divorces are about?
        1. Azad 25 November 2019 08: 34 New
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          Now it was fit. Thank.
          1. rocket757 25 November 2019 09: 00 New
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            Quote: Azad
            Now it was fit. Thank.

            Everything as usual. Each draws his own card, hoping that at least a trump jack will come \ better than an ace and does not think about what can stay with the sixes!
            LEADERS make the choice, and the bumps, as always, fly slightly lower ... BUT, it’s their choice and it’s useless to moan, you need to calculate in advance, although on your fingers what kind of alignment may be in the future.
            There is nothing new in that, everything is as always.
            1. Azad 25 November 2019 09: 30 New
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              You have yes. And what do we have to do with it?
              1. rocket757 25 November 2019 10: 13 New
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                Are there exceptions?
                This is not even a theorem, it is a postulate.
              2. Nyrobsky 25 November 2019 12: 12 New
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                Quote: Azad
                You have yes. And what do we have to do with it?

                Despite the fact that you put on the wrong horse and play on the side of the mattresses. Henry Kissinger once said - "It’s dangerous to fight against the USA, and it’s deadly to be friends with the USA," but for some reason your leaders think that in the case of the Kurds it will be different. Will not be. Americans exploiting the interests of the Kurds, use them exclusively to achieve their goals. You yourself do not hide the fact that you are acting against Russia and at the same time, make claims to Russia that it does not protect you well.
                PKK functionary Cemil Bayık explained, “Kurds are now the most dynamic force in the Middle East. They are fighting in the most determined way, they are better organized. The USA cannot ignore this. How can the USA achieve its goals in the Middle East without the PKK? Without Kurds? It doesn't work . How will Europe end its dependence on Russian gas without the Kurds? Oil and gas flows also pass to the Mediterranean Sea through Syrian Kurdistan. If this route is provided, Europe will again be able to breathe freely. "
                So what are you fighting for? For the Americans to pump gas through you and Europe breathe freely? Strange as it is, the "breath" of Europe for the Kurds is more important than the lives of thousands of Kurds.
                1. Azad 25 November 2019 15: 13 New
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                  Question. Why, when four years ago we offered you military cooperation right up to the bases, did you ... chew snot? Therefore, the Americans came. Who's guilty?
                  1. Pissarro 25 November 2019 15: 54 New
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                    Because we come somewhere on our terms, and not on yours. A simple thought that we may have our own interests did not attend?
                  2. Azad 25 November 2019 16: 02 New
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                    There was one condition. Help with weapons, bk, logistics. If your aviation will be involved wonderful. Something wrong?
                  3. Pissarro 25 November 2019 16: 03 New
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                    So the counter condition was. Syrian flags raise and help. Flags did not raise
                  4. Azad 25 November 2019 17: 10 New
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                    I correctly understand that you are not at all aware of what Rojava was until 2012. Where do you come from?
                  5. Pissarro 26 November 2019 00: 14 New
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                    I correctly understand that you are not at all aware of what Rojava was until 2012. Where do you come from?


                    Do you know that we have been in Syria since the fall of 2015?
                    By the way, if you are Russian, why do you serve the vassals of America? How did the idea come to mind? Or are you a supporter of strange Kurdish social experiments? When women fight, instead of men it’s strange for the surrounding nations. Well, or there so that women and men are equally in power. In normal societies, they rule and fight according to ability, not gender
              3. Polymer 25 November 2019 17: 34 New
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                Quote: Azad
                There was one condition. Help with weapons, bk, logistics. If your aviation will be involved wonderful. Something wrong?

                Of course not that! At this time, the Russian Federation was already cooperating with official Damascus and, most likely, the answer was something like this: join the SAA, and you will have everything. They didn’t want to. Prefer US "help".
                "Well, son, did your Poles help you?" (with)"
              4. Azad 25 November 2019 18: 34 New
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                REPEAT. I correctly understand that you are not at all aware of what Rojava was until 2012.
              5. Polymer 25 November 2019 18: 38 New
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                So helped Poles are the Americans?
              6. Doliva63 25 November 2019 19: 04 New
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                Quote: Azad
                REPEAT. I correctly understand that you are not at all aware of what Rojava was until 2012.

                In a nutshell, what happened to Rozhava?
              7. Azad 25 November 2019 19: 21 New
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                Censored? Raw appendage. There is no industry. Generally. There is no developed urban infrastructure. The population has no passports. Languages ​​are prohibited. Like?
      2. krot 25 November 2019 19: 14 New
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        Why, when four years ago we offered you military cooperation right up to the bases, did you ... chew snot?

        If you haven’t noticed, Russia is not against the Kurds, and not against the wide autonomy of the Kurds. And your leaders proposed an open confrontation with Turkey and some others .. And there was no plus legitimacy in the treatment of the Kurds. Only official Damascus can give legitimacy to the location of our troops in Syria.
        And further! To fight for someone - we have already won back .. Enough! But his interests and help to the peoples, it is possible. And we will help in a diplomatic settlement. But at least be prepared for this yourself, and not throw stones like wild ones!
    2. Nyrobsky 25 November 2019 22: 09 New
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      Quote: Azad
      Question. Why, when four years ago we offered you military cooperation right up to the bases, did you ... chew snot? Therefore, the Americans came. Who's guilty?

      Russia entered on September 30.09.2015, XNUMX at the invitation of official Damascus, which is a subject of international law, and therefore the presence of the Russian Federation in Syria was legally justified. What is an invitation from the Kurds in terms of international law? An illegal armed group that has decided to strengthen its position in the confrontation with official Damascus? It didn’t work with Russia, it was strengthened by mattresses, which themselves are illegally located there. Do not fool around, or as you put it, do not chew snot, but solve the issue with Assad for Kurdish autonomy while there are political preconditions for this, the longer you rest, the less chance you will have to influence the state and administrative the territorial structure of Syria after the war. Sooner or later, the mattresses will leave Syria anyway, and you will remain with your own problems, which you have discovered for yourself.
  • syndicalist 25 November 2019 11: 06 New
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    If we protect, then they will be friends with us.
    1. rocket757 25 November 2019 11: 14 New
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      Quote: syndicalist
      If we protect, then they will be friends with us.

      Whom to protect? Those who oppose themselves to the central Syrian government?
      What goal was originally set? Save Syria as a state with a central government, rather than tearing it into enclaves. In this matter, just start, immediately everything will fall.
      1. syndicalist 25 November 2019 11: 21 New
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        We will protect, first of all, peaceful people living in this territory. Whatever their position towards the unity of Syria. Peaceful people have the right to live!
        1. rocket757 25 November 2019 11: 25 New
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          Quote: syndicalist
          Peaceful people have the right to live!

          Why can not they live in the state of Syria, as they lived before?
          Peaceful people should ask YOUR leaders, and not poke there and be friends / go after their leaders who think about different things, but it seems not about them.
          1. kjhg 25 November 2019 12: 44 New
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            Quote: rocket757
            Why can not they live in the state of Syria, as they lived before?

            Any people have the right to choose with whom they live. Is not it? We do not live in the Middle Ages. Why are the few South Ossetians and Abkhazians, Kosovans entitled to this, and the multimillion Kurdish people do not?
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            Peaceful people should ask YOUR leaders

            So they chose independence under the guise of the United States. There is an explanation for this. Hundreds of years of Kurds oppressed the Turks, and Syrians, and Iranians, and Iraqis. Another thing is that today the United States refused to defend them. Kurds are the only multimillion people in the world who do not have their own state. Genocide and oppression is almost openly against them. Good, the Kurds need to allocate territory to create their own state. So in due time did with Jews. But the world community is not ready for this today. So, Kurds will continue to kill everything.
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              Quote: kjhg
              But the world community is not ready for this today. So, Kurds will continue to kill everything.

              Let the Kurds learn how to talk (they don’t know how - let them learn with their blood, if they can’t be except for bedding!)
            2. kjhg 25 November 2019 12: 59 New
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              Quote: hydrox
              Let the Kurds learn to talk

              Think with your own head. How? In what other language do they need to explain that 40 million people wants to live in his state? Most countries of the world have a smaller population, even considering the fact that they consist of different peoples and ethnic groups. And 40 million Kurds are one people who were divided by several states. They have been killed for centuries. This is pure genocide.
              It's just that the whole thing is that if you create a single Kurdish state, it can become one of the strongest in the Middle East and redraw the entire political map of this region. Influential world players are afraid of this.
            3. Pissarro 25 November 2019 15: 59 New
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              Is there something for us that someone wants his own state? We have already bred all sorts of Bulgaria, Romania, Ukraine, and apart from Russophobia and pro-American lackeys we did not see anything from them. We help truly faithful to our ally to restore order in a secular modern state without sharing in religion or nation.
            4. From Siberia we 26 November 2019 16: 55 New
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              Do you understand what you say? WE have bred states, in them RUSSOPHOBIA, these states like America. But they don’t like you, they don’t like your power, the West is nicer to them. So maybe the West is not to blame, but your government and you?
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              We, like the Anglo-Saxons, do not know how to buy up the elites of small countries. And I like it, I don’t like it for girls, not for states.
              Russophobia is the only product that Latvia can sell for example. Well, or to provide their territory under the base for attacks or provocations.
        2. hydrox 25 November 2019 16: 50 New
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          If the Kurds are accustomed only to the language of weapons and violence, then let them conquer their lands further with the help of terror and an assault rifle - what do we have to do with this, do they have any complaints against Russia?
          But we don’t have land for them either, and what we have is unlikely to suit them ...
        3. hydrox 25 November 2019 17: 04 New
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          Quote: kjhg
          It's just that the whole thing is that if you create a single Kurdish state, it can become one of the strongest in the Middle East and redraw the entire political map of this region.

          And who will undertake the creation of an incompatible state, in order to have for ANYTHING ONE MORE ONE EXTINGUISH hotbed of war?
        4. Sunstorm 25 November 2019 18: 32 New
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          Quote: kjhg
          It's just that the whole thing is that if you create a single Kurdish state, it can become one of the strongest in the Middle East and redraw the entire political map of this region. Influential world players are afraid of this.

          My dear man .... You should start publishing fantasy. 1) Want independence? A flag in their hands, why should the Russian Federation help the independence of the Kurds? Do you still think that the United States will help?)))) It’s already helping) You would remember how the United States helped Israel build Israel, an instructive story.
          2) "One Kurdish state" of the factions scattered between other countries (3- or 4?) .... I don’t even know how to hug you or just laugh in the throat, to say the least, to over-bite.
          3) Kill for centuries? And that Russians have not been killed for centuries? Maybe the Germans? What is this argument about? People are born and die, many die in battle, such is the nature of man. By the way, who has been killing Kurds for centuries? Are the Kurds themselves by chance? Or former Kurds? It’s just that it’s usually the "former" that are the most vicious towards their ethnic group. 4) To rebuild the BV with the help of the Kurds .... Yeah, I read about such a plan of the State Department, crazy ravings. But the Americans, after all, firmly believe in Spider-Man, Superman ... why wouldn’t they believe in super-duper ... the people of the Kurds ... They will believe, they will use it and forget it and leave it ... they already forgot and abandoned it, what sadness is that? 40 million, on a 7 billion planet .... a drop in the desert. (and I’m silent about the fact that a fair share of these 40 million are not considered Kurds by themselves ...)
    2. rocket757 25 November 2019 13: 07 New
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      Quote: kjhg
      Any people have the right to choose with whom they live. Is not it? We do not live in the Middle Ages. Why are the few South Ossetians and Abkhazians, Kosovans entitled to this, and the multimillion Kurdish people do not?

      And someone was able to create and live peacefully without what would be a "project" of someone who today is the STRONGEST OF THIS WORLD ??? Stripes threw them, now they have nothing to catch, only endless victims!
      By the way, other peoples are quite a national entity in going to other states and live normally like that, without GREAT LEADERS and KINGS!
      No one is interested in creating a Kurdish state, that’s the whole dilemma that they themselves cannot solve!
    3. Doliva63 25 November 2019 19: 12 New
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      Quote: kjhg
      Quote: rocket757
      Why can not they live in the state of Syria, as they lived before?

      Any people have the right to choose with whom they live. Is not it? We do not live in the Middle Ages. Why are the few South Ossetians and Abkhazians, Kosovans entitled to this, and the multimillion Kurdish people do not?
      Quote: rocket757
      Peaceful people should ask YOUR leaders

      So they chose independence under the guise of the United States. There is an explanation for this. Hundreds of years of Kurds oppressed the Turks, and Syrians, and Iranians, and Iraqis. Another thing is that today the United States refused to defend them. Kurds are the only multimillion people in the world who do not have their own state. Genocide and oppression is almost openly against them. Good, the Kurds need to allocate territory to create their own state. So in due time did with Jews. But the world community is not ready for this today. So, Kurds will continue to kill everything.

      The people have a state that they deserve. Dont Have? So they didn’t deserve it. Historically. And Gypsies roam the planet - where should they single out the state? But the story of the Jews with Israel is another story, which was made with the private money of all sorts of Rothschilds, etc. Do Kurds have their own Rothschilds? So let them buy land for the country from their neighbors. But not the fact that they will be sold.
    4. IL-18 25 November 2019 21: 25 New
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      Kurds are the only multimillion people in the world who do not have their own state. P

      Tell the gypsies about it
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      Tell the gypsies about it

      tell yourself who you want
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      Quote: kjhg
      tell yourself who you want

      I do not want. I am Russian, and I have Russia. Moreover, the statehood of the North American Indians would interest me more.
  • cat Rusich 25 November 2019 22: 40 New
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    After the return of Crimea to their homeland (Russia). To blame the Kurds for not wanting to live in Syria for us (Russia) "not with our hands." Russia “put” on B. Assad and “united” Syria - “backtracking” is not the same. Kurds rely only on the union of ALL Kurds or look for another "ally" ...
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    So, the Kurds and our enemies: it’s enough to remember HOW and KEM a boiler was set up on the oil fields of Syria in February 2018, when several hundred Syrians and PM Wagner PM were killed.
    So I am for leaving the Kurds alone against Wagner, providing the PMCs with the coordinates of the goals and returning in two days - this would be quite enough to show who is the boss on this earth.
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      So after all, the Kurds and our enemies :: just remember

      Not everything is so simple on BV, either.
      The Turks are also not very faithful friends to us ... however, they cooperate. How long this tramp lasts, the acting figures who are there, and not the external "players", must decide.
      1. hydrox 25 November 2019 12: 48 New
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        Exactly!
        We will count those who cling to ourselves from another opera.
      2. Sunstorm 25 November 2019 18: 35 New
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        Not everything is so simple on BV, either.
        The Turks are also not very faithful friends to us ... however, they cooperate. How long this tramp lasts, the acting figures who are there, and not the external "players", must decide.

        As for me, the word "friend" on BV is, in principle, worthless. Mutually beneficial partners .. it looks much more profitable and more reliable.
        1. Doliva63 25 November 2019 19: 15 New
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          Quote: rocket757
          Not everything is so simple on BV, either.
          The Turks are also not very faithful friends to us ... however, they cooperate. How long this tramp lasts, the acting figures who are there, and not the external "players", must decide.

          As for me, the word "friend" on BV is, in principle, worthless. Mutually beneficial partners .. it looks much more profitable and more reliable.

          Yeah, America since the 90s we have partners, nowhere more reliable laughing That's when they threatened us with their NATO ATS, it was reliable.
          1. Sunstorm 25 November 2019 20: 18 New
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            Yeah, America since the 90s has been our partners, nowhere is more reliable. That's when they threatened us with their NATO ATS, it was reliable.

            America from the end of the 19th century we have been in enemies ... would have thought for what reason. And the fact that its "traitors" and "politicians" are called a partner is nothing more than diplomacy.
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              America from the end of the 19th century in our enemies ... would have thought for what reason.

              Cause. The USA, after receiving statehood from Russia, fell under the Anglo-Saxons - that’s the whole reason for hostility.
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                Cause. The USA, after receiving statehood from Russia, fell under the Anglo-Saxons - that’s the whole reason for hostility.

                No, you are mistaken. Russia and the United States as a whole were allies .. against the Naglosaksov .. a long period of time. The events of the late 19th century beginning of the 20th are the reason.
              2. From Siberia we 26 November 2019 16: 57 New
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                United States received statehood from Russia? Can you link?
        2. rocket757 25 November 2019 19: 32 New
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          Mutually beneficial partners .. it looks much more profitable and more reliable

          There is no such absolutely reliable ..... everyone chooses and decides for himself!
          I will not choose anything related to profit, ever.
          1. Sunstorm 26 November 2019 16: 20 New
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            There is no such absolutely reliable ..... everyone chooses and decides for himself!
            I will not choose anything related to profit, ever.

            Truth? Will you stand in the cold or go into a warm hut? Heat, by the way, is also a benefit. Have you ever thought about air? After all, breathing is a process of consuming a resource.

            Absolutely reliable of course not. Everyone chooses to agree, (we are not in the USSR, where everything was the will of the Plenary session and the legacy of Ilyich). If you like to believe in the legends of the "brothers", which then they will surely thank for shed blood .... I have for you a quote from Dostoevsky .. said if the memory does not change about the Bulgarians:

            "... according to my inner conviction, the most complete and insurmountable - Russia will never have, and never have had, such haters, envious people, slanderers, and even obvious enemies, like all these Slavic tribes, as soon as Russia liberates them, and Europe agrees to recognize them released!
            And do not mind me, do not dispute, do not shout at me that I am exaggerating and that I am a hater of the Slavs! On the contrary, I love the Slavs very much, but I won’t defend myself either, because I know that everything will come true exactly like I say, and not because of the low, ungrateful, as if, character of the Slavs - they have a character in this sense, like everyone else, namely because such things in the world cannot happen otherwise.

            After their release, they will begin their new life, I repeat, precisely by asking themselves to be given the pledge and protection of their freedom from Europe, England and Germany, and even Russia will be in a concert of European powers, but they will protection from Russia and will do it.

            They will certainly begin with the fact that inside themselves, if not directly out loud, they will announce to themselves and convince themselves that they are not obliged to Russia with the slightest gratitude, on the contrary, that they could hardly escape from the power of Russia during the conclusion of the peace by the intervention of a European concert, and not if Europe had intervened, Russia would have swallowed them right away, "having in mind the expansion of borders and the foundation of the great All-Slavic empire on the enslavement of the Slavs by a greedy, cunning and barbaric Great Russian tribe."

            Perhaps a whole century, or even more, they will continually tremble for their freedom and fear the lust for power of Russia; they will curry favor with European states, slander Russia, gossip and intrigue against it.

            Oh, I'm not talking about individuals: there will be those who will understand what it means, it means that Russia will always mean to them. But these people, especially at the beginning, will appear in such a pitiful minority that they will be subjected to ridicule, hatred and even political persecution.

            It will be especially pleasant for the liberated Slavs to express and trumpet the whole world that they are educated tribes capable of the highest European culture, while Russia is a barbaric country, gloomy northern colossus, not even of pure Slavic blood, persecutor and hater of European civilization.

            Of course, they will have, from the very beginning, constitutional governance, parliaments, responsible ministers, speakers, and speeches. They will be extremely comforting and admiring. They will be in ecstasy, reading telegrams about themselves in Paris and London newspapers informing the whole world that after a long parliamentary storm the ministry finally fell into (... the country to taste ...) and a new majority of the liberal majority someday theirs (... last name to taste ...) agreed to finally accept the portfolio of the president of the Council of Ministers.

            Russia needs to seriously prepare for the fact that all these liberated Slavs will rush into Europe with rapture, before they lose their identity, they will become infected with European forms, political and social, and thus
            will have to go through a whole and long period of Europeanism before comprehending at least something in its Slavic meaning and in its special Slavic calling in the midst of mankind.

            Between themselves, these zemstvos will always quarrel, forever envy each other and intrigue against each other. Of course, in the moment of some serious disaster, they all will certainly turn to Russia for help. No matter how they hate, gossip and slander Europe, flirting with her and assuring her of love, they will always feel instinctively (of course, in a moment of trouble, and not before) that Europe was a natural enemy of their unity, they will always remain, and that if they exist in the world, then, of course, because there is a huge magnet - Russia, which, irresistibly attracting them all to itself, restrains their integrity and unity .... "


            F.M. Dostoevsky

            The diary of a writer.

            September - December 1877. We look at Ukraine 2019, Belarus .... Kazakhstan, Georgia, Armenia?
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              Everyone chooses CAM. I have made a choice.
  • Rust0626 25 November 2019 15: 14 New
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    Turkey is just an American squeeze tool. While the Americans are there, the Kurds will not go under Assad.
  • maidan.izrailovich 25 November 2019 12: 43 New
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    The whole point of the "work" of our military is to regain control of the Syrian government over the entire territory of the state !!!

    In this context, we are only talking about our videoconferencing.
    We did not subscribe to ground actions.
    The situation with the Kurds was apparently poorly calculated a few steps forward.
    Military police should only enter areas where active hostilities are over. Moreover, this should be agreed with both parties to the conflict. At the same time, both sides of the conflict should have a desire for a peaceful settlement. Otherwise, our policemen have nothing to do there.
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      Military police should only enter areas where active hostilities are over.

      There BADAK is also due to the fact that there are many .... pleasant / good things to find about Syrian authorities, the army, not everyone can say.
    2. Sunstorm 25 November 2019 18: 40 New
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      The situation with the Kurds was apparently poorly calculated a few steps forward.

      Everything is perfectly calculated, just the media work as usual, in the framework of the 3rd world. How many I remember there were cries of "oh everyone missed the Kurds ... oh they are all with the Americans now" and what? 2019 and again, the Kurds do not know where to go, but do we care about the Kurds ?, and the citizens of the Russian Federation and the interests of the Russian Federation ...? as for me it doesn’t matter. Good Assad or bad, the main thing is to keep your word and be ours. Politics should be based on calculation and not on feelings.
  • hydrox 25 November 2019 08: 36 New
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    How to burn armored cars of the Russian police - this is national independence, but how to get into the boiler - so immediately submit the Minsk agreements !?
    It would be necessary to leave the SDS whores with the Turks alone for three days and see how this will end, but I doubt very much that the American sidekicks will rush to the aid of such a treacherous (and even a fool!) Ethnos.
  • den3080 25 November 2019 09: 41 New
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    Yes, everything is cool. The pro-Turkish are at war with the pro-American. The best is not necessary.
    Watch and that's it.
  • engineer74 25 November 2019 11: 43 New
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    Pro-american Kurdish group calling itself Syrian Democratic Forces (SDS)

    This is the same as the “White Helmets” - the same reliability, and there is only one source of “information” - the US administration. There is nothing to discuss here - another fake.
    IMHO hi
  • Vladimir_2U 25 November 2019 06: 37 New
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    Doubts about the appropriateness of joint patrolling are ever stronger.
    1. hydrox 25 November 2019 08: 50 New
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      If there is no JOINT patrol, then the Turks will simply CUT ALL the Kurds - and this will be a decent payment to the Kurds for their love of minke whales.
      Please note that this “love” is absolutely and absolutely NOTHING different from the love of skakuas for visa-free travel and lace underwear.
      By the way, the "love" of the Kurds for the Syrians is about the same kind as the love of the Skakuas for the Russians ... yes
      1. Ross xnumx 25 November 2019 09: 26 New
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        Quote: hydrox
        If there is no JOINT patrol, then the Turks will simply CUT ALL the Kurds - and this will be a decent payment to the Kurds for their love of minke whales.

        There is a certain tendency that at first they cry out for help, and then they send ... Here is a small excursion into the past of RI and Georgia:
        The Russian military historian, Major General Rostislav Fadeev, in his book 60 Years of the Caucasian War, wrote that Muslims (about the Persians. - * Ed.), Inspired by the new teachings of Shiite, "systematically slaughtered the population of entire regions."
        The historian leads the denouement of one of the battles of 1795, when the Persians, having overcome the Kura River, surpassing the Georgian troops, defeated them in the Battle of Krzanis, then captured and destroyed Tbilisi: "On the Kursk bridge in Tiflis, the Persians forced the Orthodox to spit in the miraculous image of the Virgin and overthrew the disobedient (and all were disobedient) from the bridge in Kourou, soon clogged with bodies; or as two thousand worshipers of the Davido-Gareja desert were taken in turn under the ax during the matins on Bright Sunday".
        After all these difficult events, on November 17, 1800, the Georgian king George XII addressed the emperor Paul I with a “petition on his knees” in which he begged to accept his people into “eternal citizenship”.

        It is duplicity and hypocrisy in politics that brings the most bitter results.
        1. Ross xnumx 25 November 2019 09: 42 New
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          Mr. Marshall, could you please explain your “correct” opinion on the connection, otherwise I’m tired of collecting your anonymous sticks - gather courage “Gulchatay! Open your face!”
        2. hydrox 25 November 2019 12: 59 New
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          The facts of such treacherous actions against Russia can be cited ... the wagons are recruited, but, see, we have such a plan ...
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          Quote: ROSS 42
          It is duplicity and hypocrisy in politics that brings the most bitter results.

          Therefore, Russia should not advocate for the Kurds, enough of us are "Grateful Relatives"
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            Quote: Sunstorm
            Quote: ROSS 42
            It is duplicity and hypocrisy in politics that brings the most bitter results.

            Therefore, Russia should not advocate for the Kurds, enough of us are "Grateful Relatives"

            You’re just like Medvedev at one time about Libya.
            And the people in the country are different. Aren't you afraid that there are dissent? For example, Kurds, citizens of the Russian Federation.
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              Quote: Doliva63

              You’re just like Medvedev at one time about Libya.
              And the people in the country are different. Aren't you afraid that there are dissent? For example, Kurds, citizens of the Russian Federation.

              We have a lot of land in the country, let them move to us once they have "Genocide". A citizen of the Russian Federation, Kurdish, Belarusian, Ukrainian ... without a difference in nationality is obliged to follow the interests of the Russian Federation, otherwise let's goodbye citizenship.
      2. Vladimir_2U 25 November 2019 09: 52 New
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        Here I am evenly divided by Kurds, I don’t see any expediency for Russia in this, well, except for a hedgehog in Turkish pants (I'm talking about preserving the Kurds). )))
      3. Doctor 25 November 2019 12: 19 New
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        If there is no JOINT patrol, then the Turks will simply CUT ALL Kurds


        Kurds 40 million. Of these, 20 million live in Turkey. Every fourth “Turk” is a Kurd.
        1. hydrox 25 November 2019 13: 03 New
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          Yes, but why are Russian patrols attacked ???
          We need to shed our blood for some ethnic group unknown to us that hasn’t done anything good to us - don’t you think that from the outside it might look like (oh!) Tism?
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            Yes, but why are Russian patrols attacked ???


            They are perceived by the Kurdish population as enemies.
            And the Americans are friends, they support the Kurds in the desire to form their own state.

            We need to shed our blood for some ethnic group unknown to us that hasn’t done anything good to us - don’t you think that from the outside it might look like (oh!) Tism?


            It seems. But we are not used to it. This is a favorite pastime of the rulers of Russia for more than a century.
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            Quote: hydrox
            Don't you think that from the outside it might look like (oops!) Tism?

            Belief in the non-worthiness of the media looks like Idiocy.
        2. Doliva63 25 November 2019 19: 36 New
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          Quote: Arzt
          If there is no JOINT patrol, then the Turks will simply CUT ALL Kurds


          Kurds 40 million. Of these, 20 million live in Turkey. Every fourth “Turk” is a Kurd.

          Know if Erdogan’s Maidan is waiting if the line passes. And what, technologies are dashed off. Just give a reason!
          Although the country of NATO. I doubt it.
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            "And what is there in Paris?" Hello macron and yellow jackets
    2. syndicalist 25 November 2019 11: 08 New
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      This "compatibility" is really strange. Turks are a party to the conflict, participate in patrols, but there are no Kurds.
    3. Vladimir_2U 25 November 2019 11: 22 New
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      In general, I’m not catching up, they’ll be minded, I didn’t like these patrols at once, which I write about.
  • Valery Valery 25 November 2019 06: 39 New
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    I do not like Russian patrols, there will be an alternative - the Turkish military.
  • SOVIET UNION 2 25 November 2019 06: 49 New
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    This seems to be a new battle tactic in the information war. Accusation of the enemy of failure. The states have playful hands sticking out in many places. In the same Afghanistan, poppy fields and unidentified aircraft fly. And in tamed Iraq is not calm. And in Ukraine their wards play pranks. You have to do something about it! bully soldier
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      Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
      This seems to be a new battle tactic in the information war. Accusation of the enemy of failure. The states have playful hands sticking out in many places. In the same Afghanistan, poppy fields and unidentified aircraft fly. And in tamed Iraq is not calm. And in Ukraine their wards play pranks. You have to do something about it! bully soldier

      With all this, only one thing can be done - the USSR; nobody really “ran into” it.
  • rotmistr60 25 November 2019 06: 58 New
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    The pro-American Kurdish group ...
    And in this case, Russia is to blame. And who prompted you to overthrow Assad’s power by force in your time? Americans are afraid to blame the hope that they will again begin to actively help them. To whom in due time were sold to those and bring claims.
    1. Azad 25 November 2019 07: 34 New
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      And who prompted you to overthrow Assad’s power by force in your time?

      Gennady, you will of course give links to official documents confirming the desire of the Syrian Kurds to overthrow Assad or fight against the SAA. It is possible in Kurmanji or Arabic. Or as usual?
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        Or as usual?
        Specify, and how is it usually? This is the first time I’ve met your nickname, so I didn’t have a dialogue with you. And you give me links to the so-called "Syrian Democratic Forces" (SDS) fully supported the legitimate authority in Syria and have never participated in clashes with the Syrian army.
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      2. kupitman 25 November 2019 09: 43 New
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        And you show the official documents, where the SDS is a kind of official organization that has at least some relation to Syrian state institutions.
        1. Azad 25 November 2019 10: 49 New
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          Do not understand. Have we ever stated this? Did you all miss something? I get it. This is called arrow translation.
          1. kupitman 25 November 2019 10: 52 New
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            And why did you dig in "show me an official document" ... To whom? non-existent organization? Will you show the document on the basis of which your allies in the form of star-striped have the right to be in Syria?
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              Good question. Let's figure it out. Russia, Iran invited Damascus. Us we. Given that Russia refused to cooperate, but we had to fight with the terrorists ... Question. Who invited the Turks to Syria? AND?
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                USA - we, who are you? VTS? Which are not an official state institution?
                in short, this is what I mean, you require official documents, while you yourself are not a legal entity, which is strange. Somehow. Well, it’s the same as if I had the right to check a disguised traffic cop.
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                  I get it. You just don’t know what happened in 2012, and why then the SAA could not help us even if Assad really wanted to? And you want me to tell you this? Censorship or as is?
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                Quote: Azad
                Question. Who invited the Turks to Syria? AND?

                I don’t know how they are based on the Sochi memorandum. 30 km can go.
                1. Azad 25 November 2019 12: 21 New
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                  The Turkish army entered Syria in 2017. Who invited her?
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                    the one who is American, i.e. NONE
                    here again, and we say that when you demand here some official documents from someone, then first deal with your status.
                    And then you’ve gotten well - having no status, you demand from other statuses.
                    1. Azad 25 November 2019 14: 25 New
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                      There is no concrete answer to the question. Difficult question?
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                        again:
                        the one who is American, i.e. NONE
                        But the comrade from below wrote:
                        The Adan Agreement allows Turkey to conduct operations in Syria with the aim of ensuring the security of its borders ..
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                        Yawning ... Adan Agreement. 1. The cessation of all forms of support for the PKK, the expulsion of its leader A. Ocalan from Syrian territory, the closure of its camps in Syria and Lebanon, and the prevention of the entry of its militants into Turkey.
                        2. Turkey reserves the “right to exercise its inalienable right to self-defense” if Syria does not stop immediately supporting the PKK.
                        3. Consider border disputes between the two countries as “closed” at the date of signing the agreement, while none of them has any “claims or rights due” in the territory of the other side.
                        4. Granting Turkey the right to “prosecute terrorists” inside Syria to a depth of five kilometers and “to take the necessary security measures if its national security is in jeopardy”.
                        The fourth paragraph is carefully read.
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                  The Adan Agreement allows Turkey to conduct operations in Syria with a view to ensuring the security of its borders .. All those invited and not invited do not have a direct land border with Syria and are not so alarmed by this fact. And Turkey has a 900 km border with Syria, which is important.
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                  Found, Peskov (PS GDP): “The Turkish operation in the eastern part of the Euphrates River can be carried out under the Adan Agreement, if we are talking about creating a“ safe zone ””

                  So the emperor gave the green light to the sultan. I think this is agreed with the emir.
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                    4. Granting Turkey the right to “prosecute terrorists” inside Syria to a depth of five kilometers and “to take the necessary security measures if its national security is in jeopardy”.
                    The fourth paragraph is carefully read.
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                      then we quickly run to file a protest with the UN and collect GA, etc. etc.
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                Turkoman, Arabs. Or only you can invite someone else?
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              Us we

              To go nuts! Is this any drunk in the gateway can also invite Americans to him, defending his sovereign right to thump? Democratically plump.
  • Astra wild 25 November 2019 08: 02 New
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    I agree with you on the second point, and on the first some clarification: the Kurds did not fight against Assad. If ISIS defeated the Kurds it would not be sweet, but Assad’s complete victory is not interesting to them. More precisely, their owners
  • Zaurbek 25 November 2019 06: 59 New
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    There are doubts, agree with the Turks.
  • knn54 25 November 2019 07: 00 New
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    And what does SDS have to ALL Syria?
    1. hydrox 25 November 2019 08: 57 New
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      It’s very simple - the Syrian-Turkish border runs through the lands of the Kurds, but the Turks outlaw them by declaring them a terrorist organization of the PKK: at the same time, the Kurds are not negotiable like the Skakuas, otherwise they would have long had autonomy as the first step towards independence. ...
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    A rather unsightly portrait of this folk is emerging ... I’m starting to understand why almost all Kurds are called terrorists in Turkey, they probably know better the people with whom they are forced to live close by ...
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      Quote: taiga2018
      A rather unsightly portrait of this folk is emerging.
      You would be more careful with generalizations. The Austrian artist Schicklgruber was a great lover of such ethnopsychological portraits. They say he finished badly.
      1. Sunstorm 25 November 2019 18: 47 New
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        Quote: sniperino
        You would be more careful with generalizations. The Austrian artist Schicklgruber was a great lover of such ethnopsychological portraits. They say he finished badly.

        Artists of the 20-21 century are all a bit of that ... ideologized. Probably the whole trend of Shikielgruber. However, ethnopsychology is not only and not so much developed by him.
  • Slavutich 25 November 2019 07: 09 New
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    Some porridge has been brewed, and Russia will swell
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    Well, the Kurds are right in principle. Russia is the guarantor of the cessation of hostilities between Turkey and the Kurds. If the Turks attack the territory that is outside 32k from the border, this is a clear violation of the agreements and Russia, as a guarantor, is obliged to intervene, by the presence of its patrols in the escalation zone or by diplomatic means. Otherwise, what's the point of our patrols in the border areas with Turkey? Just for beauty to ride? I think in normal agreements all possible reactions of peacekeeping missions to all types of violations, to violations by the Kurds and by the Turks should be spelled out. If everything is written in the contract but there is no reaction from the guarantors, then the reputation of the guarantor will suffer.
    1. Pissarro 25 November 2019 09: 22 New
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      The city of Ain Issa is located on the border with Turkey in a 30-kilometer zone and the Kurdish forces had to dump from there. They did not do this, engaging in battle with the Turks, in response, art works from abroad from abroad. Everything happens before our military police. What do you think should do, to expel the Kurds from under the Turkish shelling? They simply record that the Kurds did not depart in violation of the agreements, and that’s all
      1. Azad 25 November 2019 11: 32 New
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        But what is SAA doing there? Or should they dump too? This is the same type of tyr zone of responsibility.
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      Well, the Kurds are right in principle. Russia is the guarantor of the cessation of hostilities between Turkey and the Kurds.

      no, thank you. Russia is responsible for Turkey for the withdrawal of the RPK / SDS from the agreed zone within the agreed time frame, Turkey is responsible for Russia for not moving the SSA / sleep outside the agreed zone.
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    If Kurds and Turks violate the agreement, then it’s easier then to leave from there altogether and leave them with each other.
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    Traded as usual.
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    It is worth noting that one of the SDS units carried out an attack on the object of the Turkish forces in Tel Abyad. As a result, the object was burned, three people died. The SDS claims that this is their response to "Turkish persecution of Kurdish women in the occupied territories."

    And this is a reality. Residents of Al-Jisr quarter in the occupied city of Gyr Spi set fire to the headquarters of Turkish mercenaries who commit acts of violence against local women. According to preliminary information, three mercenaries died in a fire. https://hawarnews.com/en/

    Locals are very fond of the Turkish militia. The militia calls them RIA FAN.
    1. protoss 25 November 2019 11: 37 New
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      Gyrespi, Omsk - what the hell is this? let's get back to the official names somehow.
      1. Azad 25 November 2019 12: 05 New
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        Well, actually, a lot of settlements in Syria have both Arabic and Kurdish versions of the name. You know, historically. Who roughly speaking in the subject knows. Are you not It happens.
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          Well, actually also Turkish options. but there are official names, let's stick to them or some brief derivatives of official names. el reeds, can be briefly reeds, et-tell-el-abyad, you can tell-abyad, etc.
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            Well, actually also Turkish options. And Syria is the territory of Turkey? Then the Turkish names can ... I’m silent.
            1. protoss 25 November 2019 12: 29 New
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              and what are the Turkish (Turkmen) options worse than the Kurdish? Syria is the territory of Syria, not Turkey or Kurdistan, so I am for the official Syrian names, no matter what origin.
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                Sorry. That is the reality. laughing
  • Astra wild 25 November 2019 07: 52 New
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    This is clearly the Americans "fuss". Their plans do not include ending the war in Syria.
    As far as I understand, the main thing for them is to remove the Russians from Syria
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      Quote: Astra wild
      This is clearly the Americans "fuss". Their plans do not include ending the war in Syria.
      As far as I understand, the main thing for them is to remove the Russians from Syria

      I’m not sure that the Americans have heard about Russians in general and in Syria in particular.
  • Rwmos 25 November 2019 08: 03 New
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    And why the heck RF protect American fighters from Turkish fighters? It makes sense to destroy both
  • Astra wild 25 November 2019 08: 10 New
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    While our peppered all kinds of gangs were good. Now, when up to 90 or more of Syria’s territory is free, the most interesting thing begins: the pie’s hiding place, and here the Russians are already a hindrance
  • oracul 25 November 2019 08: 20 New
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    And no one promised that it would be easy. The main thing has been done - the invasion of the Turkish army is stopped. Patrolling is underway, but on the one hand. And on the other hand, it’s racketeering with the Americans, provocations against Russian patrols, the seizure of oil fields and the theft of Syrian oil, harsh treatment of the Arab population on the brink of terror, a reluctance to negotiate with the Syrian government, all the time there are some demands. One gets the impression that time is dragging on.
    1. Azad 25 November 2019 08: 40 New
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      The main thing has been done - the invasion of the Turkish army is stopped.

      Oh ... And with whom are we (CAA and SDF) then under Tel Tamr, under Ain Issa we are fighting? Whose art is shelling us? Someone’s?
      And about terror against the Arabs in more detail. And then the Arab fighters we do not know.
      1. donavi49 25 November 2019 09: 22 New
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        But you had a chance to defend your independence. She means something if the people are ready to fight and die for her.

        Unfortunately, in the first week, when the Turks took the border villages and highway 30. There was no serious resistance. The generals and the entire leadership fell away. And she started shouting "PAMAHIT, KILL! 111". Here in the end they helped. And to blame. For after the fight the Kurds woke up fighting spirit. The most logical will be to step back and see:
        - now it will be even easier to cut territories with Turkish partners. For they are +/- sane and control their irregulars.
        - they are negotiable, unlike local barons.
        - Idlib can also be exchanged for this.

        Otherwise, I’ll bet that the joint patrol will hit a 200kg gift, and then it will catch a couple of Sarukh-Fagotov before the new year.
        1. Azad 25 November 2019 09: 43 New
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          Unfortunately, in the first week, when the Turks took the border villages and highway 30. There was no serious resistance.

          But now it will be rude. , 150 people left Serikania along with the wounded. With rifleman and old RPGs. Against the second army in NATO mercenaries, aviation, heavy artillery drones armored vehicles. How long would you last? Tell them.


          And highway 30 is the M4 highway? So she is under our control.
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            Well - I'm talking about it. If the largest nation has no state, only hundreds (or even thousands) of brave people are ready to fight for the state. That is no chance.

            The track was cut in the early days. From there, another video was with road checks and shootings. The essence of the route is that it is enough to cut in one place and the multi-kilometer section is closed. Turkobabahs did this on 2 or 3 days.
            1. Azad 25 November 2019 10: 56 New
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              Do you think it was only in Serikania?

              The track was cut in the early days. From there, another video was with road checks and shootings. The essence of the route is that it is enough to cut in one place and the multi-kilometer section is closed. Turkobabahs did this on 2 or 3 days.

              In fact. Spirits came running, killed civilians. Then one of them managed to, ran back. Now the track is under our control. I do not need to talk about what I know better. Good?
            2. Azad 25 November 2019 11: 08 New
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              Damn ... Spirits ran on the track and ... those who managed to escape. Now the track is under our control.
      2. Pissarro 25 November 2019 09: 26 New
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        Should you have left the 30km zone? Why are you fighting there in violation of the agreements? Did the sponsor indicate provocations?
        1. Azad 25 November 2019 09: 45 New
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          And this is our land. You tell the Assyrians from Tel Tamra. Why should they leave. Do you run into rudeness? Do not.
          1. Pissarro 25 November 2019 10: 04 New
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            You only confirm that you are not observing the agreement, that is, are non-negotiable. The essence of the agreement was that you were leaving, the Turks did not enter, a joint lightly armed police of Russia and Turkey patrolled the 30 km zone. Russia guarantees that the Turks do not cut peace. Everyone is happy.
            But in the end, we have provocations against patrols and your forces at the border. And you are setting up your people, because if the Turks decide on a full-scale invasion, there is no one to stop them. Your hosts have tail piled up as usual. But why did this Russian, to fight for your independence, we did not engage, we are for Assad there, for a legitimate government
            1. Azad 25 November 2019 10: 18 New
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              It will be rude again. You explain it to the Arabs, the Assyrians, the Armenians why they should throw their homes. Here they are.
              Better not be angry with me.
              1. Pissarro 25 November 2019 10: 22 New
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                Why should I make you angry. I do not even know you. The security zone agreement was intended to save you. Civilians would live with joint patrols. Not satisfied, meet the Turks. The choice is yours
                1. Azad 25 November 2019 10: 59 New
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                  You make me rude. Remember in this as you called the security zone your clowns would not have been. Askers and SNA. Tell you what they do when they come?
              2. protoss 25 November 2019 11: 58 New
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                as I understand it, they may not leave their homes, but surrender weapons to responsible persons - Russian, Syrian or Turkish, depending on whose area of ​​responsibility the settlement is in, and live on quietly.
                1. Azad 25 November 2019 12: 30 New
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                  I understand why they do not leave? Although unlikely.


                  And you won’t understand.
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                  As I understand it, an “Azad” Armenian, to put it mildly, does not like everything Turkic, and put a photo, crushing religious feelings in order to get approval and grace. The old reception of these persons, if nothing rolls in the arguments, then this is their “last weapon "to gather supporters.
                  1. Azad 25 November 2019 14: 29 New
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                    Did not guess. I am Russian. Tengriist. And there is Turkic blood in me.
                    1. Oquzyurd 25 November 2019 17: 26 New
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                      Yes, and I'm a Martian lol
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                        It's your problem.
  • Jarserge 25 November 2019 08: 34 New
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    Guarantors you Americans to them and contact
  • Romanenko 25 November 2019 08: 41 New
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    It is interesting, when the Americans nevertheless throw them, as well as many of their other "allies", what songs will they sing then?
    1. Pissarro 25 November 2019 10: 07 New
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      So already thrown
  • Azad 25 November 2019 08: 43 New
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    To make it clearer. Raqqa - SANA
    23-11-2019
    The occupying forces of Turkey and their mercenaries launched a fierce attack on the village of Ain Isa in the northern province of Raqqa.
    According to a correspondent of the SANA agency, the invaders fired at the village from artillery and rocket launchers, which caused serious damage to civilian property and infrastructure and led to the mass exodus of residents who were forced to leave their homes due to these criminal actions. https://www.sana.sy/ru/
    1. Pissarro 25 November 2019 09: 41 New
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      To make it more understandable. The Turks launched an attack on those who violate the agreements did not leave the security zone, the guarantors of which are Russia and Turkey together
      1. Azad 25 November 2019 09: 59 New
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        You didn’t get it. Permanent Representative of the SAR to the UN Bashshar Al-Jafari. "... the Turkish regime, which occupied Syrian territory, killed many Syrian citizens and displaced more than 180 thousand people with the aim of gathering terrorists in the occupied areas under the pretext of creating the so-called" safe zone. "Syria will not accept this and will act accordingly with the principles of international law and the provisions of the UN Charter. " https://www.sana.sy/ru/
  • rudolff 25 November 2019 09: 21 New
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    And why the hell did we climb the gasket between the Kurds and the Turks, what was the point? The Americans acted as mediators there, well, let them have this hemorrhoids.
  • Butchcassidy 25 November 2019 09: 22 New
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    Keep your pocket wider))) The pro-American part of the Kurds decided that Russia was willing to fight on the side of the Kurds in their conflict with the Turks? Cho they smoke there in their VTS?
  • SERGEY SERGEEVICS 25 November 2019 09: 38 New
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    Let them thank and rejoice in us that we are patrolling together with the Turks, and not just them.
  • Woland 25 November 2019 09: 41 New
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    Russia's big mistake is to interfere in this ball of snakes and scorpions. There the devil himself will not make out who is right, who is to blame. And since it’s impossible to be good to everyone, then there was no need to climb there. We fulfilled our mission, ISIS is defeated, let the Syrians themselves deal with the rest
  • K-50 25 November 2019 09: 48 New
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    Turkish attack "occurred in front of the Russian military

    Is this what we still have to fight for the Kurds? For those who throw stones at our military, climb on equipment with sledgehammers, throw bottles of gasoline at it?
    You already decide. Either you and Assad, then they will “fit in” with you, or you yourself, with pin dosnikami. Then why should a Russian soldier cover you, at the cost of his blood, and sometimes life?
    If you want to climb a cactus and not choke with thorns, then why should someone fight for you?
  • Azad 25 November 2019 09: 53 New
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    I remembered something. Askers were interrogated even under Jalabrus. When he said that I was Russian ... "Bugün Kürtleri öldüreceğiz ve yarın Rus domuzlarını keseceğiz." Literally. We’ll kill the Kurds today, and tomorrow we’ll kill Russian pigs. That's all.
    1. Dym71 25 November 2019 10: 08 New
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      Quote: Azad
      "Bugün Kürtleri öldüreceğiz ve yarın Rus domuzlarını keseceğiz." Literally.

      There were no illusions regarding Turkey, and as long as they cut it with tongues, we don’t care, and the IMHO joint patrol should be put under the CAA.
      1. Azad 25 November 2019 11: 00 New
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        For SAA Turks are invaders. Problem...
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          And for SDS, who is the CAA?
          1. Azad 25 November 2019 12: 07 New
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            Allies. Something else?
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          Quote: Azad
          For SAA Turks are invaders. Problem...

          And wherever you go, there are problems everywhere, that's why the war is tearing Syria, when Assad and Erdogan got into their gums, they did not solve the problems with the Syrian Kurds peacefully, but in the mind, now only by force.
          But there is nothing for our VP MoD in this region to do, even if they bring the blue helmets there, with respect hi
    2. Pissarro 25 November 2019 10: 19 New
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      If askers questioned prisoners, then such answers are not captured by the regular army, but militants who are not obligated to anyone look like a mixture of great courage and the same madness.
      1. Azad 25 November 2019 11: 05 New
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        You mixed us up with them.
    3. Oquzyurd 25 November 2019 13: 45 New
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      Shameless slander, words invented, which has no evidence. I understand that you are Armenian and hate everything connected with the Turks. But you need to know the measure, even in slander.
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        1. Oquzyurd 25 November 2019 17: 25 New
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          From a complex sufferer such utterances are expected.
          1. Azad 25 November 2019 18: 37 New
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            You are self-critical.
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              God commanded, he deserves to be a long-suffering man, and he must be-deserved. So be you, not otherwise.
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                Çok konuşuyorsun You talk a lot.
  • Azad 25 November 2019 10: 07 New
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    Just wondering. Is this a safe zone concept? AND?
    العدوان التركي الغاشم يستهدف المدنيين الآبرياء من أبناء شعبنا

    العدوان التركي الغاشم يستهدف المدنيين الآبرياء من أبناء شعبنا

    Submitted by Suroyo TV Syria Thursday, October 10, 2019
  • herev15 25 November 2019 10: 17 New
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    Faster than all, it was a mistake to get into the "Middle Eastern mess" without understanding the relationship of forces. Sunnis against Shiites, all together against Kurds. In Syria, joint patrols with Turkey (including the whining of "patriots" about supporting the pro-Turkish Sunnis who are in turn against Assad), and in Libya, meanwhile, the war is on the side of the field marshal against the pro-Turkish forces. Testing and showing new weapons systems? It is somehow strange to combine with data on Russia's share in the arms sales market in the international arms market, which has fallen by 5% over 4 years. Strange you win gentlemen are good. We are holding on so vigorously, by the way, I understand that the dollar will collapse according to the cries of some gentlemen here on the forum, but the parodox from which hangover Russian companies hit the Iranian markets (the Chinese, too, you are not alone), because you can work on barter.
    https://www.vedomosti.ru/business/news/2018/03/12/753205-ssha-potesnili-rossiyu-na-mirovom-oruzheinom-rinke
    Just do not need to restore contracts for the cut of the dough will be made by those who pay, and not by you. But this is my personal view. You need to go out quickly, because as in a casino, you need to know when to get up.
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      Stop consuming the western press. The line is behind our weapons, something falls only there for you)
    2. Nastia makarova 25 November 2019 12: 08 New
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      sales are growing fast
      1. herev15 25 November 2019 13: 05 New
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        Grow, of course grow. The problem is that others are growing. If we take 100% of all sales in the world, then we must at least maintain our position as a percentage. But everyone has the right to think differently. If you do not praise yourself, then who should do it.
  • Prahlad 25 November 2019 10: 31 New
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    Well, then you need to leave. This is not our conflict!
    1. Pissarro 25 November 2019 10: 49 New
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      Katz offers to give up)
      1. herev15 25 November 2019 12: 56 New
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        Katz suggests continuing the banquet :-). Yes, for God's sake, a drum in its paws and in front. Having salted the Sunnis, Russia only extended the war; they have not yet flown to Mars. They sit under the umbrella of the Turks and advance little by little. Meanwhile, it became harder to keep Shiite police in Iran and the surrender of villages is an example. Sunnis and Shiites have been fighting 1,300 years without knowing what to do. and so, Pissarro, the "good fellow", jumped up on a gray cloak and reconciled the Shiites with the Sunnis for they were just waiting for him. So, “Katz” only wishes good luck and more victories.
        1. Pissarro 25 November 2019 13: 14 New
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          The Sunni-Shiite confrontation and the participation of Russia in it exists exclusively in your head. Muslims in the military police of Russia are all Sunnis, and this does not prevent them from doing the common thing with the Shiites, Iranians and Alavit Assad. And this thing is called secular Syria, without religious fanatics of all sorts
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            Brilliant, there is no way to refute it. It is a pity that the Arabs do not know about it.
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          Quote: herev15
          Sunnis and Shiites have been fighting 1,300 years

          Sunnis and Shiites arose less than 700 years ago from the fragments of Christian communities under the influence of those who are now called the Anglo-Saxons and led by the Jews.
          1. herev15 26 November 2019 05: 47 New
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            I am infinitely glad that you have not declared the United States guilty. It would be harder for me to prove to you that they have nothing to do with it.
            https://militaryarms.ru/armii-mira/kto-takie-sunnity-shiity-alavity/

            and even I, being a Jew, was not involved in this.
  • Livonetc 25 November 2019 11: 21 New
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    You have yes. And what do we have to do with it?

    Azad.
    Kurds apparently prefer to learn from their own mistakes.
    This is common to many and understandable.
    Own state, it is certainly healthy.
    But is this ephemeral opportunity worth the future of your children?
    Anecdote from the times of the USSR.
    Lecture on the farm.
    Lecturer
    -Comrades!
    -Communism is on the horizon!
    Collective farmer.
    -Comrade lecturer.
    - And what is the horizon?
    Lecturer.
    - And this, comrade collective farmer,
    such an imaginary line that is impossible to reach.
    1. Azad 25 November 2019 11: 40 New
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      Oh damn ... How it all started something. Popular. We do not need a state. “My theoretical understanding of the system that I am trying to structure consists of an approach that provides for the creation of a system outside the boundaries of state power. The basis of my theoretical perspective is the search for a solution not only outside the capitalist system, but also outside of all types of classically hierarchical state systems. "Apo. Maybe it makes sense for you to teach the materiel? Purely an assumption.
      1. Pissarro 25 November 2019 12: 11 New
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        You cannot be in the system and at the same time be free from it. Here at least structure at least not structure
        1. Azad 25 November 2019 12: 36 New
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          We are just out.
          1. Pissarro 25 November 2019 12: 40 New
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            This is what you think. And the system deals with you
            1. Azad 25 November 2019 15: 20 New
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              No. It’s somehow not clear, right? Oh for sure. Come see.
      2. Doctor 25 November 2019 13: 05 New
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        We do not need a state.


        And what you need? What are your goals?
      3. Livonetc 25 November 2019 13: 26 New
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        Quote: Azad
        Oh damn ... How it all started something. Popular. We do not need a state. “My theoretical understanding of the system that I am trying to structure consists of an approach that provides for the creation of a system outside the boundaries of state power. The basis of my theoretical perspective is the search for a solution not only outside the capitalist system, but also outside of all types of classically hierarchical state systems. "Apo. Maybe it makes sense for you to teach the materiel? Purely an assumption.

        At one time he studied the Marxist-Leninist theory.
        Well, and you, dear, by what is voiced, do you fall into the category of anarchist?
        "Anarchy is the mother of order"?
        Illusions are all that.
        There is and will exist for many centuries to come, only the classic form of social structure.
        Where a state is created on the basis of public consent, as a mechanism of violence.
        And nothing more.
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          This past. Only.
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        creating a system outside of government

        Poor Kurds are part of the backbone element of the theory of controlled chaos from the Anglo-Saxons. Along with Natsik and Wahhabis. Fuel for debt relief.
  • protoss 25 November 2019 11: 50 New
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    as I understand it, there should be annexes to the Sochi agreements 30 km from the border, in which the borders of the Turkish security zone and the joint patrol zone are clearly drawn. Based on these applications, it should be clear which community is assigned to whom. if Ain Issa / Tell Tamr is in the Turkish zone, then there should not be Kurds from the RPK / SDS. if this settlement is not included in the Turkish zone, there is a violation of agreements on the Turkish side. in any case, there should be no uncertainty for each settlement.
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      It starts to bother me. But should there not be Arabs, Assyrians, Armenians, Turkomania? And who can?
      1. Pissarro 25 November 2019 12: 15 New
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        You do not bother civilians and armed militants
        1. Azad 25 November 2019 12: 33 New
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          Who are they? Militants?

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            Well, if people have weapons in their hands and they do not represent legal authority, then they are militants, regardless of gender and age
            1. Azad 25 November 2019 15: 32 New
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              Who's that? Whose citizens and whom do they represent?

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            A few years ago, when the Kurds in Iraq began to organize their "women's battalions", I had one question in my head: what kind of men are there that send their women to war?
            "What will we say to our children when women go to war?" (with)
            Of course, I admire the courage of those women who decided to stand up and take up arms, but I can’t understand their men ...
      2. protoss 25 November 2019 12: 20 New
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        read carefully - not just Kurds, but Kurds from the RPK / SDS, as to the Kurds as an ethnic group, as I understand it, no one has any complaints, but there is enough for a specific armed organization. if an Arab, Armenian, etc. suddenly became a member of this organization, then the requirement to leave the 30 km zone also applies to him.
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          Little, sorry ... There are no PKK in Syria. Absolutely. Do you understand?
          1. protoss 25 November 2019 15: 41 New
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            clown, you gypsies can be renamed to anything, but one hell is rushing with your idol - Mr. potatoes. it doesn’t work out in your conspiracy. Do you understand? Well, everyone around them also understands this.
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              Thanks, funny said.
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          But who is this? Christian terrorists or Assyrian fighters? How right?
  • 7,62h54 25 November 2019 11: 59 New
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    Kurds, Americans, Isis, Turks, sleep and see that Russia gets into a fight. No, sort it out yourself.
    1. eklmn 25 November 2019 17: 15 New
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      Quote: 7,62x54
      Kurds, Americans, Isis, Turks, sleep and see that Russia gets into a fight. No, sort it out yourself.

      Too late. Did Russia want to have influence in the region? Now it has.
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  • Yuri Mikhailovsky 25 November 2019 12: 23 New
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    We found indignation from anyone to listen to ..
  • 30hgsa 25 November 2019 12: 56 New
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    And at least in one place the Russian Federation called itself the guarantor of a ceasefire in relation to the women who have concluded a temporary truce? The Babai were given a choice - under Assad or first under Erdogan, then most likely also under Assad. Russia there safeguards the interests of the Syrian government and takes protection of those who returned under the wing of the legitimate Syrian government :)
  • Operator 25 November 2019 13: 40 New
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    Quote: Azad
    explain to the Arabs, Assyrians, Armenians

    Syrian Arabs, Assyrians and Armenians remain, Syrian Kurds with things to enter Iraqi Kurdistan.
    1. Azad 25 November 2019 14: 34 New
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      Sorry, but who are you to decide for people living on your land what to do and how? WHO ARE YOU?
      1. Operator 25 November 2019 14: 35 New
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        A citizen of the Russian Federation, a military ally of the SAR, however.
        1. Azad 25 November 2019 15: 28 New
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          I get it. You write after the combat mission in Hmeimim. No? Wait, give me another chance. I guessed. You are a cool commando and returned from combat from Idlib. Also no? Well then you are nobody and you can’t call in any way. Calm down and teach for example materiel. Was not offended?
          1. Operator 25 November 2019 16: 51 New
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            I am the one who contains the RF Armed Forces with all special forces, VKSs, Strategic Rocket Forces, etc. (i.e., a taxpayer), as well as one who is the holder of sovereignty and the only source of power in the Russian Federation (i.e., the voter).

            Got it now? laughing
            1. Azad 25 November 2019 17: 16 New
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              Go on - go on. Only a request. Do not talk about what you do not know and do not understand. You will at least look smarter. No offense.
              1. Operator 25 November 2019 17: 28 New
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                "Your opinion is very important to us" (C) laughing
                1. Azad 25 November 2019 18: 39 New
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                  And what was that? what
    2. Doctor 25 November 2019 14: 59 New
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      Syrian Arabs, Assyrians and Armenians remain, Syrian Kurds with things to enter Iraqi Kurdistan.


      On the contrary. Assad needs to make a knight's move. Donate part of the territory (Syrian Kurdistan) and help the Kurds create their own state.
      1. Operator 25 November 2019 15: 19 New
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        The Iranian-speaking Kurds already have their own state - Iran.
      2. Pissarro 25 November 2019 15: 40 New
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        What for? He is mentally healthy. You don’t make a move with a horse and don’t give one room of your apartment to any anarchists
        1. Doctor 25 November 2019 18: 33 New
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          What for? He is mentally healthy. You don’t make a move with a horse and don’t give one room of your apartment to any anarchists


          Muslim fanatics did not come to my apartment, behind which there were cool rich dudes from another house and I did not barricade myself from them in the bathroom waiting for death. And if it weren’t for the other cool dudes who heaped on the fanatics and cleaned my apartment, then I would be finished.

          Having given the territory for the Assad Kurds:
          1. Will acquire 40 million allies (Kurds) in the countries surrounding his state.
          2. It will soften the position of the USA and the West in relation to itself, possibly also to the allied one.
          3. Receive support from Israel.
          4. Will go down in history as the founder of the Kurdish state.

          Assad still can not fully control
          this territory, and the Kurds will sooner or later create their own state.
          1. Pissarro 26 November 2019 00: 08 New
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            1. We gave h.ohlam territory and a bunch of their people. And how, acquired an ally? Let me remind you that in addition to the Kurds in that territory, Arabs still live, Armenians, Assyrians. Everyone in the state?
            2. It's funny. Who needs a softening of the position of the West through surrender. Assad laid on them, and this is his strength, not weakness
            3. Israel let him give the Golan. His support is the stigma in the Arab world
            4. To go down in history as the founder of a foreign state at the expense of one’s is a shame a la Gorbachev
            1. Doctor 26 November 2019 10: 43 New
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              We gave h.ohlam territory and a bunch of our people. And how, acquired an ally? Let me remind you that in addition to the Kurds in that territory, Arabs still live, Armenians, Assyrians. Everyone in the state?


              So then his people. But you are not upset about the Kazakhs, Uzbeks, Tajiks, Turkmen? Let them boil there in their own juice calmly.

              And the rest have their own states. Armenians to Armenia, Arabs to Arabia, and Assyrians to Iraq.
              1. Pissarro 26 November 2019 12: 29 New
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                This is called ethnic cleansing and is being planted. You cannot drive people from your land
                1. Doctor 26 November 2019 13: 08 New
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                  This is called ethnic cleansing and is being planted. You cannot drive people from your land


                  I did not mean to drive. They just lived in Syria, but they will live in Kurdistan. But if that, they have where to go. And the Kurds have nowhere to go.
  • Klingon 25 November 2019 13: 42 New
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    the Kurds will play, that only records in the Talmuds about museums of every kind will remain about them, as about Sumerians
  • chenia 25 November 2019 13: 58 New
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    The paradox is that the existence of the Kurdish state is most beneficial to Russia and, oddly enough, to Israel. That is, as if Turkey and Iran are an ally, it will not be long. And the fact that the Americans oversee the Kurds is just fine. They take on all the negativity from the Turks and Iranians.
    Russia's task is to unite the Kurds with Assad with maximum autonomy. Both Turks and Iranians will counteract this. Well, the latter are slightly controlled by Israel (as it is not funny, but it is they who emphasize
    the dominant role of Russia in this region).

    And Assad, why not unite all of Syria, it will not work, and if he succeeds then he will definitely lose the world. It controls a significant part of the country, while squeezing the irreconcilable into enclaves, minimizing their influence. and so it can go on forever. And of course, an alliance with the Kurds.
    1. Pissarro 25 November 2019 15: 43 New
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      Assad is our very reliable ally. And the Kurds saw an American carrot immediately ran to them. Doubtful exchange.
  • Graz 25 November 2019 15: 30 New
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    I think the Kurds should be left to the Turks, let them understand each other
  • Satanicpanic 26 November 2019 02: 18 New
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    Um, but in Srebrenica, did the UN police allow the massacre? How to look at the situation.
  • no one 26 November 2019 02: 50 New
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    But I wonder only why these brave Russian-Kurds in the photo send children under Turkish and Russian armored personnel carriers? And why are they attacking and then when the answer comes crying? Or did they think that they would leave the highway after the attack and the Turks would not follow them?
  • no one 26 November 2019 03: 23 New
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    People who quietly cleaned the lands of Arabs with the help of the United States and oil fields speak of Turkish aggression. These are people who collect tribute from their own, and who refuse to punish. Recently, a Kurd’s carrier was kidnapped for refusal. This was written by the Kurdish website. Trying to create the image of romantic freedom fighters to create
    1. Azad 27 November 2019 19: 14 New
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      Who took what from whom and who genocide.

  • Viltor 26 November 2019 10: 19 New
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    In my opinion, Russia made a tactical mistake by entering the territory of the Kurds early, and even with the Turkish army, declaring itself to be a peacemaker. For Kurds, Turks are enemies, and therefore Russia supports their enemies. It may sound cynical, but if we had stayed for a couple of weeks with this initiative on peaceful patrolling and had Kurds from the Turkish troops suffered substantial damage, the intervention of the Russian army would have been assessed in a completely different way.
    1. no one 26 November 2019 12: 25 New
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      Hold on for a couple of weeks, the Turks would occupy the entire 30 km zone. And it would be all happiness
  • zan_parti 26 November 2019 11: 08 New
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    Sorry, but who are you to decide for people living on your land what to do and how? WHO ARE YOU?


    Reality does not always coincide with our plans. It is clear that many nations want to remain independent strong, able to independently solve their problems. But it often happens that all the forces surrounding this people are not interested in making this people stronger, especially if this people begins to interfere with everyone.

    In this case, an open confrontation with everyone in a row will harm this people and help those whom it interferes with and who wants to destroy it.

    Guarantees - Shmarantii are respected when the situation is simple and solves the problem. If the fulfillment of guarantees will lead to a worsening of the situation, war, quarrels between more "important" allies, no one will fulfill them.

    The only right way for the Kurds in my opinion is to agree with Assad on autonomy within Syria. In this case, there will be no need for you to fight, and the Turks will have no reason to attack you, and Russia will protect you.

    And at the moment you are holding a weapon in your hands, and you are not listening to anyone, thereby telling everyone around you that you do not need protection and are capable of solving your problems yourself. As you get tired and understand that this does not help, but only harms you, sit down at the negotiating table. In your situation a bird in your hands is better
  • Mihail42 26 November 2019 17: 32 New
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    It's time for the Turkish military to neutralize these attacking bandits!