In the Czech Republic gathered to erect a monument to General Vlasov

In the Czech Republic gathered to erect a monument to General Vlasov

Monument to Marshal Konev, on the site of which a monument to Vlasov may appear


A monument to General Vlasov may appear in the Czech Republic. The head of the 6 district of Prague, Ondřej Kolář, announced the likely installation of a monument to the general, who sided with the Nazis on the site of the monument to Soviet Marshal Konev. It is reported by the Russian service Radio Praga International.

The elder (the post is called) of one of the districts of Prague intends to erect a monument to General Vlasov on the site of the monument to Marshal Konev. The radical Czech politician explains his decision by the fact that the "Vlasovites" allegedly liberated Prague from the Nazi invaders, and not the Soviet army.

The claims to Marshal Konev at the head of the district are that in 1968, the Soviet military leader "personally supported the conduct of information intelligence before the Warsaw Pact invasion of Czechoslovakia." By the way, this is reflected on the plaque on the monument to the Marshal in Prague.

Ondřej Kolář also claims that the capital of Czechoslovakia in 1945 allegedly was able to get rid of the fascist invaders with the help of the “Vlasovites”. The Soviet tankers who arrived in Prague "have already entered the liberated city."

On the transfer of the monument to Marshal Konev in one of the museums in Prague and the installation in its place of a “new monument to the heroes of the liberators of Prague in the 1945 year”, the decision was made in September this year. Prior to this, the monument was desecrated more than once, dousing it with paint.

The decision to move the monument to the Soviet Marshal was condemned at the Russian Embassy in the Czech Republic, and President Milos Zeman called the decision "a disgrace to the Czech Republic."
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  1. Mountain shooter 24 November 2019 10: 47 New
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    Here are the fools ... Your memory is short. Do you think Russia is already “Fse”? Dead lion, and can I kick it?
    1. rocket757 24 November 2019 10: 56 New
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      Everyone goes off .... and goes out!
      Russia stepped aside .... but it is TEMPORARY!
      After all, nothing is forgotten ... if they don’t argue, again, some du-r-ni will not start, for the sake of the ideas of the international and the eternal friendship of peoples, to distort OUR HISTORY! It didn’t lead to anything good!
      And so, WE WILL GO BACK, wherever WE WILL BE!
      1. Spartanez300 24 November 2019 11: 04 New
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        Looks like traitors and werewolves in their honor.
        Soviet soldiers who freed them from the brown plague and who sacrificed their lives for their freedom are no longer a memory.
        In total, during the Prague strategic offensive operation (May 6–11, 1945), 49 348 soldiers and officers lost their formations and units of the Red Army, including 11 irretrievably (265 sanitary losses). In addition, in this operation, the losses of the 38nd Army of the Polish Army amounted to 083 people. (irrevocably - 2), the 887st and 300th Romanian armies - 1 people. (irrevocably - 4) and the 1730st Czechoslovak Army Corps - 320 people. (irrevocably - 1). If we talk about the price of the liberation mission of the Soviet army in Czechoslovakia as a whole, then this figure is 533 soldiers and officers, including 112 irreparable losses.
        Not grateful offspring, shame and shame on them.
        1. Thrall 24 November 2019 11: 10 New
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          A short memory and ignorance of their own history makes peoples step on the same rake over and over again
          1. Piramidon 24 November 2019 11: 27 New
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            I don’t think that Vlasov is so loved by them. They simply try to spoil by any means, looking at what their overseas patrons are doing. Those with their sanctions rush about like dype with a written shell, but these have enough strength only for petty podlyany.
            1. Svarog 24 November 2019 11: 57 New
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              Quote: Piramidon
              they’re trying to spoil by any means,

              It’s even difficult to say what this clowning is aimed at, you don’t need to know the Russians at all, don’t understand their mentality ... Everyone will unite in this topic .. It’s some kind of nonsense, it’s not clear what it’s aimed at, it’s possible only that that they began to propagate betrayal in the Czech Republic .. The theme of the Second World War will unite all layers of Russian society and it will turn out, as in a joke, when a foreigner drank all night with the Russians, and they hailed the authorities and Russia, but when he agreed with them in the morning, he cut off the lyuley. .
              1. Tatyana 24 November 2019 12: 56 New
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                Here is one such small fascist reptile paid for from the ocean in the Czech Republic, like Ondrej Kolář - and perhaps even not even a Czech by nationality - that can poison relations between two countries and peoples!

                What an abomination!
                1. tihonmarine 24 November 2019 13: 35 New
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                  Quote: Tatiana
                  Here is one such small fascist reptile paid for from the ocean in the Czech Republic, like Ondrej Kolář - and perhaps even not even a Czech by nationality - that can poison relations between two countries and peoples!

                  Money doesn't smell. The work of the Collage is this. Yes, and we have such liberal rubbish in bulk.
                  1. Old Michael 24 November 2019 20: 37 New
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                    I thought for a long time how to characterize these individuals without violating the rules of VO. Perhaps a medical approach will work: a moral-psychological and sociocultural pathological deformation of a homosexual personality?
                    1. tihonmarine 24 November 2019 21: 14 New
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                      Quote: OldMichael
                      Perhaps a medical approach will work: a moral-psychological and sociocultural pathological deformation of a homosexual personality?

                      Yes, very elaborate, but very accurate description.
                2. polar fox 24 November 2019 16: 53 New
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                  Quote: Tatiana
                  Here is one such small fascist reptile paid for from the ocean in the Czech Republic, like Ondrej Kolář - and perhaps even not even a Czech by nationality - that can poison relations between two countries and peoples!

                  Yes, Czechs, always fought with the Russians. What a revolution, that in the Second World War. Like the Bulgarians. It is difficult to spoil what was not there.
            2. New Year day 24 November 2019 12: 52 New
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              Quote: Piramidon
              Just try by any means to spoil

              that's for sure, bastards! because they want to install ...
              ... at the site of the monument to Marshal Konev
          2. private person 24 November 2019 13: 38 New
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            A short memory and ignorance of their own history makes peoples step on the same rake over and over again

            But ask current teenagers in Russia who is Vlasov, Konev, Vatutin, etc.? Many will answer you correctly? And it’s not worth talking about the Czechs for them; all Russians are nothing but invaders.
            1. frei67 24 November 2019 13: 46 New
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              well, at least several million playing in the Tundra and World of Tanks will answer correctly
              1. private person 24 November 2019 14: 12 New
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                I won’t say anything about Tundra, but I don’t agree about tanks, it’s even harder and harder to play them on USSR vehicles. Tanks is not a patriotic game, it more and more shows the failure of the equipment of the USSR.
                1. frei67 24 November 2019 14: 31 New
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                  but what does the balance of the game have to do with it? There are events dedicated to this or that battle. Descriptions are given where it says who, where and how. So they know. At least in the tundra
            2. skif8013 24 November 2019 20: 34 New
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              Quote: private person
              A short memory and ignorance of their own history makes peoples step on the same rake over and over again

              But ask current teenagers in Russia who is Vlasov, Konev, Vatutin, etc.? Many will answer you correctly? And it’s not worth talking about the Czechs for them; all Russians are nothing but invaders.

              I completely agree, our history is limping on both legs, but there is nothing to talk about Czechs.
          3. saigon 24 November 2019 14: 53 New
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            Well, you remember nothing in vain, they remember well remember how at the Skoda plants they mastered weapons for the Nazis, with great diligence it must be said.
            While they do not brag about it., But probably until then they will begin.
            You can also remember the shootings of Hitler’s (laid down arms) fighters, as well as add heroic deportation of Germans from the Czech Republic; )
            After this, I hope that the monument to Vlasov will not be surprised.
          4. skif8013 24 November 2019 20: 31 New
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            I’m not Wang of course, but my prediction is that all these countries will soon change their shoes very quickly in the jump. To live only.
        2. Terenin 24 November 2019 11: 18 New
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          Quote: Spartanez300
          Looks like traitors and werewolves in their honor

          I agree. In general, the word "see" must be removed.
          1. ul_vitalii 24 November 2019 13: 24 New
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            Quote: Terenin
            Quote: Spartanez300
            Looks like traitors and werewolves in their honor

            I agree. In general, the word "see" must be removed.

            hi It can be seen that the Czechs crossed the line when they can forget their dead and tortured, but you can touch the external, proposed enemy from the side. They are already "preparing" for Victory Day next year. yes
            1. bouncyhunter 24 November 2019 13: 45 New
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              A monument to General Vlasov may appear in the Czech Republic

              Dogs are feminine! am I personally have no other words. no
              1. Terenin 24 November 2019 13: 59 New
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                hi Welcome
                Quote: ul_vitalii
                It can be seen that the Czechs have stepped over their edge,

                Yes, Vitaly, they crossed their conscience and memory

                Quote: bouncyhunter
                Dogs are feminine!

                Pasha, what kind of woman? There has long been a dismantling of the family and the destruction of the natural sex of man ...
                1. bouncyhunter 24 November 2019 14: 04 New
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                  Gena, be healthy! hi
                  Quote: Terenin
                  There has long been a dismantling of the family and the destruction of the natural sex of man ...

                  The administration will punish, perhaps: I wanted to say: "offspring" or "degenerates."
              2. ul_vitalii 24 November 2019 14: 33 New
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                Greetings, Pasha hi How alive is healthy? smile
                1. bouncyhunter 24 November 2019 14: 41 New
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                  And you don’t get sick, Vitaliy! hi
                  Quote: ul_vitalii
                  How alive is healthy?

                  As you see . wink
                  How do you like the news? I don’t remember who I read that Slovaks were always closer to Russians than Czechs. The difference in religion affected, sort of ...
                  1. ul_vitalii 24 November 2019 19: 43 New
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                    Quote: bouncyhunter
                    And you don’t get sick, Vitaliy! hi
                    Quote: ul_vitalii
                    How alive is healthy?

                    As you see . wink
                    How do you like the news? I don’t remember who I read that Slovaks were always closer to Russians than Czechs. The difference in religion affected, sort of ...

                    The Czechs were historically closer to the nemchur, the Austrians, but Slavaks, as a rule, were always busy with affairs on a rural field, and, between things, helped their neighbors. yes
        3. tihonmarine 24 November 2019 13: 33 New
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          Quote: Spartanez300
          Looks like traitors and werewolves in their honor.

          Probably it is. I would not be surprised if, after Vlasov, the next monument in Prague will be Reinhard Heydrich.
        4. RUSS 24 November 2019 13: 43 New
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          Quote: Spartanez300
          Looks like traitors and werewolves in their honor.

          So he is not a traitor for them, not Vlasov passed the Czech Republic
        5. cat Rusich 24 November 2019 19: 16 New
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          1212 Przemysl Ottokar 1 annexed the Czech Republic to the Holy Roman Empire (Germany). So that his “prince" would be crowned king. Since that time (1212g) the Czechs "Tse Europe", this is their choice. The replacement of the monument to Marshal Konev by the traitor of the USSR is a concrete "spit" towards Russia, the successor to the USSR. They will not “thank” us for the liberation of Czechoslovakia (the USSR or Russia), the Czechs consider themselves to be “native” Europeans - from 1212 to 1918 (from 1939 to 1945) under the Germans, from whom did we liberate Prague? What to do ? - Do not go to the Czech Republic as a tourist, do not buy Skoda cars to begin with.
      2. iConst 24 November 2019 13: 11 New
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        Quote: rocket757
        Everyone goes off .... and goes out!

        That way, and to Eloizovich not far ... wassat
        1. rocket757 24 November 2019 14: 12 New
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          Quote: iConst
          Quote: rocket757
          Everyone goes off .... and goes out!

          That way, and to Eloizovich not far ... wassat

          Not far away! Geyropa is now so soft, fluffy .... overgrown with fat! In short, come and take .....
          They had an immunity to fascism, so they are all on someone, including and Russia spent.
          There was a brown Fuhrer, no matter what the other! Green or rainbow, it will not be important anymore. They have the same habits.
          1. Vodrak 24 November 2019 18: 30 New
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            Rainbow in the Netherlands, do not confuse.
            1. rocket757 24 November 2019 18: 50 New
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              Quote: Vodrak
              Rainbow in the Netherlands, do not confuse.

              It is INFECTIOUS, if the affected organs are not cut off, the whole organism can become infected.
              1. Vodrak 24 November 2019 18: 53 New
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                They are all there !!!!
                Well do something with them?!?!?
                1. rocket757 24 November 2019 18: 57 New
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                  Quote: Vodrak
                  They are all there !!!!
                  Well do something with them?!?!?

                  Like in the Middle Ages! Destroy all the dams and ..... in short, let's see how it turns out.
                  1. Vodrak 24 November 2019 19: 00 New
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                    Yes, they filled the planet!
                    Here you can’t do with dams alone ....
                    1. rocket757 24 November 2019 19: 12 New
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                      Quote: Vodrak
                      Yes, they filled the planet!
                      Here you can’t do with dams alone ....

                      As always, an integrated approach .... there are methods and methods, if there was a desire to implement them!
                      1. Vodrak 24 November 2019 19: 14 New
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                        What are you doing?
                      2. rocket757 24 November 2019 19: 21 New
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                        If we get to the point, let’s be
                        In the meantime, give free rein to your imagination.
                      3. Vodrak 24 November 2019 19: 28 New
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                        There will be no good ...
                        This fight will be
      3. cat Rusich 24 November 2019 19: 39 New
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        From March 16, 1939 to May 13, 1945, the Czech Republic was an autonomous protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia. Czechs "laid down" under Germany even before WWII. E. Gaha was president of Czechoslovakia - became president of the protectorate, part 3 of the Reich. The protectorate had its own money - the crowns of the protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia ... Adolf Eloizovich was the Fuhrer of the Czechs as residents of the 3rd Reich.
    2. Vodrak 24 November 2019 18: 29 New
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      And what is not far?
      Where did these lands go before the First World War?
      Everything is understandable ...
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  • svp67 24 November 2019 11: 07 New
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    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    You think,

    When they crap, they don’t think, there are other instincts ...
  • knn54 24 November 2019 11: 10 New
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    I read the headline and remembered O. Henry- "Soulmates" ...
  • rich 24 November 2019 11: 11 New
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    The Czechs fell into their own trap. One way or another, the Russians liberated Prague. This fact cannot be denied. Gradually it will reach the Czechs, but, as usual, with a delay laughing
  • Alex_You 24 November 2019 11: 20 New
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    Russia is far from the Soviet Union. And the Soviet Union is already “Fse”.
    Z.Y. particularly curious:
    1. Aviator_ 24 November 2019 11: 53 New
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      Before his captivity in 1942, Vlasov was a fairly successful Soviet general, and he fought quite well near Moscow. But in captivity I chose what led him ultimately to the loop. And that’s it. There, Blucher in Grazhdanskaya also competently fought, but still, at the end of the 30's he got drunk and got what he deserves.
      1. Pavel57 24 November 2019 12: 02 New
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        There are claims to Vlasov at the beginning of the war, when he could actively beat the Germans, but he hesitated.
    2. Dmitry Ukraine 24 November 2019 12: 06 New
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      The Soviet Union made a huge role not only in the Victory over Nazi Germany, but throughout world history. And “Fse” he will never be, as if someone did not want this. Because you can try to rewrite history, but human memory will still preserve its glorious pages. As there will be no "Fse" and Russia. Vlasov, commander of the armies near Kiev, Moscow, Leningrad, deserved, at that time, respect. Do you think that America was discovered "especially inquisitive" by its post? But after his surrender, he became a coward, a bastard and a traitor. For which he suffered a well-deserved punishment. Less to you from me.
    3. Nikolay Fedorov 24 November 2019 13: 40 New
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      Quote: Alex_You
      Z.Y. particularly curious:

      After the defeat of the Germans near Moscow, the country honored two heroes-saviors of Moscow - Zhukov and Vlasov. All the more painfully for the whole country then the treason of Vlasov responded.
  • Paul Siebert 24 November 2019 12: 14 New
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    Czechoslovakia supplied weapons to the Third Reich. The Czechs replenished the Wehrmacht, worked for the German economy.
    They even started the Prague uprising in May 1945, after the surrender of Germany - they were afraid to remain in the camp of Hitler's losing allies.
    What else can we expect from them? Should two world wars and the struggle against the Czechoslovak corps on the Civil Front be taught us something?
    The days of Grunwald passed when the valiant Russian regiments shoulder to shoulder with the warriors of Jan ижižka were chopped on a bloody field with German knights!
    Grind people. Let them drink their beer "" in the tavern "By the bowl" ...
  • Cut Samshitov 24 November 2019 13: 01 New
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    Yes everything is correct. Czechs are essentially Vlasovites. Under the USSR, fairy tales told about the fearsome Czech partisans. But in fact, the "brothers" the Czechs shockly produced weapons for Hitler.
  • New Year day 24 November 2019 13: 13 New
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    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    Your memory is short.

    so ours is short:
    -From the names of the fleets "Red Banner .." removed, now the fleet and everything, but where are the traditions of the past?
    - banners replaced
    - What is the current parade on Red Square on November 7? - In honor of the parade of 41 years. But the parade of 41 years was in honor of the October Socialist Revolution
    - the mausoleum is draped at celebrations, sheathed with plywood
    - Mannerheim’s board in St. Petersburg was installed by S. Ivanov, a former KGB and SVR officer, former Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation, in company with the current Minister of Culture of the Russian Federation
    - a history textbook (General History. Recent History, authors O.S. Soroko-Tsyupa and A.O. Soroko-Tsyupa) for our children and grandchildren: 304 pages (19-135 pages) are allocated for 153 pages to the Second World War. )

    From 19 pages

    - 2 pages - The eve of war, the beginning, the defeat of France

    - 1,5 pages - The Great Patriotic War, including a photograph of G.K. Zhukov., Until the summer of 1942. On this, according to the so-called authors V.O.V. is over. Of these one and a half pages a page is a criticism of I.V. Stalin.

    - 6 pages - a fundamental change in the second world war, not in V.O.V., but in the world (!!!!). This is a half page about the Battle of Stalingrad and the Battle of Kursk. The remaining 5,5 pages are about Pearl Harbor (with photos), photographs with biographies of Churchill and Eisenhower, photos from the Tehran Conference, the creation of an anti-Hitler coalition, resistance movement

    5 pages - the final period of the Second World War. Half a page about the Soviet-German front and then about the successes of the troops of the anti-Hitler coalition, conferences are different and about the surrender of Japan.

    2,5 pages - results 2 M.V. - common words

    1 p. - Statement by Churchill, US Secretary of State Atchison, Prime Minister of Japan ....

    1,5 pp. - to summarize. Blah blah blah about the grandiose successes of the anti-Hitler coalition ......
    So it turns out all of our Great Patriotic War was compared with the speech of Churchill. There are no most important battles, there are no surnames Gastello, Talalikhin, Kosmodemyanskaya, etc. There is no essence of the Feat of the Soviet People-Victorious - against us was the whole united Europe with resources exceeding our many times.
    The table of contents of this "textbook" ...

    Do you see the word “Great Patriotic War” somewhere? Or "USSR"?
    About the battle of Stalingrad, which broke the ridge of fascism, the following is said literally:
    “In the autumn of 1942 they reached Stalingrad (now Volgograd) and the Caucasus. At these lines, their advance was stopped. ”
    AND ALL !!!!
    This is a time bomb laid in the minds of our children and grandchildren!
    And we kick Czechs, and ourselves?
    1. Nikolay Fedorov 24 November 2019 13: 48 New
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      Quote: Silvestr
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Your memory is short.

      so ours is short:
      ........
      This is a time bomb laid in the minds of our children and grandchildren!
      And we kick Czechs, and ourselves?

      Totally agree with you! I would give you a thousand pluses, but I can only one.
      But I would add something else to your words. Notice how few advantages they received from VO readers? This is because a time bomb was laid not only for our children and grandchildren, but also for ourselves. And this mine is working successfully!
    2. RUSS 24 November 2019 14: 31 New
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      Quote: Silvestr
      so ours is short:
      -From the names of the fleets "Red Banner .." removed, now the fleet and everything, but where are the traditions

      It’s not true, since now fleets are referred to as the earlier ones:
      Twice Red Banner Baltic Fleet [3] (BF, DKBF) - operational and strategic association of the Navy of the Russian Federation on the Baltic Sea.
      The Red Banner Northern Fleet (SF, KSF) is an operational-strategic association of the Russian Navy
      Etc.
      Quote: Silvestr
      Mannerheim’s board in St. Petersburg was installed by S. Ivanov,

      The board was not installed by Sergey Ivanov, but by the radio-electronic equipment, and the board was removed.
      Quote: Silvestr
      banners replaced

      The banners were replaced, but they are also carried out at the Parade on a par with the new ones, plus the Victory Banner has become an official symbol.
      1. New Year day 24 November 2019 16: 15 New
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        Quote: RUSS
        It’s not true, since now fleets are referred to as the earlier ones:
        Twice Red Banner Baltic Fleet [3] (BF, DKBF) - operational and strategic association of the Navy of the Russian Federation on the Baltic Sea.

        maybe you're right, but .. Official page of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

        Quote: RUSS
        The board was not set by Sergey Ivanov

        who?
    3. Sergej1972 24 November 2019 14: 45 New
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      You do not know that we have the textbook "History of Russia"?
    4. DEDPIHTO 24 November 2019 15: 10 New
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      Quote: Silvestr
      This is a time bomb laid in the minds of our children and grandchildren!
      And we kick Czechs, and ourselves?
      And they themselves allowed the neo-Vlasovites to power, who also fiercely hate Lenin, Stalin, communism, socialism, and their hungry childhood in rubber galoshes in winter and summer, in pioneer, gulags, hence these textbooks .history ,, worship of Solzhenitsyn, new films with anti-Soviet content, etc., anti-Soviet bacchanalia, and it just does not end there. It will even come to the erection of a monument to Vlasov in Russia, since they have already set up the swamp of Krasnov ... out of the news on the ,, star ,, Vlasov is so tolerantly called a collaborator and not a traitor, in Russian ... phew. negative
      1. polar fox 24 November 2019 16: 59 New
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        Quote: DEPHIHTO
        It will even come to the erection of a monument to Vlasov in Russia, since they have already set up the swamp of Krasnov ... out of the news on the ,, star ,, Vlasov is so tolerantly called a collaborator and not a traitor, in Russian ... phew.

        Well, Vlasov said that "their tricolor will be over the Kremlin" ... what is wrong with that?))
  • Rostislav Bely 24 November 2019 13: 17 New
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    From the category of "celebration" of the beginning of World War II in Poland - stupidity in action)))) on Wikipedia about the traitor Vlasov and the Prague uprising:
    In early May 1945, a conflict arose between Vlasov and Bunyachenko - Bunyachenko had an intention to support the Prague uprising, and Vlasov persuaded him not to do this and to remain on the side of the Germans. At the talks in North Bohemian Kozoedy they did not agree, and their paths diverged.
    Bunyachenko, unlike Vlasov, was captured (he went to court twice for unacceptable losses of personnel). In December 1942, captured by the reconnaissance group of the 2nd Romanian Infantry Division, 25 km west of Ordzhonikidze (now Vladikavkaz). In May 1943, he applied for entry into the ranks of the Russian Liberation Army (ROA).
    On December 27, 1942, Lieutenant General A. A. Vlasov and General V. G. Baersky became the authors of the Smolensk Declaration, in which they proposed to the German command to organize the ROA. Bayersky (pseudonym Boyarsky) on August 3, 1942, together with General A. A. Vlasov, signed an appeal to the German command calling for the formation of the Russian Liberation Army. In the same month he was released from the camp and on September 1, 1942 he was appointed commander of the Russian National People's Army (RNNA) ...
    1. Knizhnik 24 November 2019 14: 12 New
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      Bunyachenko tried to save himself by entering into negotiations with a representative of the National Council. However, the Council did not give him a guarantee of security, and he tried to hide with the Americans. The Czechs would ask himself, where is the heroism worthy of the monument and what does Vlasov have to do with it?
  • venik 24 November 2019 13: 25 New
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    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    Do you think Russia is already “Fse”? Dead lion, and can I kick it?

    ========
    Well no! These "tricks" are trying to please the New HOST!!
    Mayscratch on the back"....... or "yummy"will serve ...
    It’s like a “trifle” - but “tasty” ... bully
  • tihonmarine 24 November 2019 13: 38 New
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    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    Here are the fools ... Your memory is short.

    I say all the time, and now I will say "Comrade Stalin did not need to free Europe." And again, in which slot I will get from 25 to 30 cons.
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    no not a dead lion .. just under external control
  • URAL72 24 November 2019 21: 27 New
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    I think it’s time to create an institution of memory, and to record such attacks in each country. The time will come, we’ll calculate.
  • AU Ivanov. 24 November 2019 10: 52 New
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    The Czechs would do well to put a monument to Hitler to the heap. And what, uncle Adik provided, in due time, the Czech industry with military orders, invested in its modernization.
    1. Honest Citizen 24 November 2019 10: 59 New
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      There is still someone there, besides Adik. Eichmann, for example, well, or Heydrich.
      Yes, and Himmer too, but why, after all, he fought, well, not of course, with the underground, which sabotaged the industry.
      Yes, and Churchill's monument - he also transferred the entire Czech gold reserve to Adik.
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      1. 4ekist 24 November 2019 11: 09 New
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        I did not understand the depth of thought.
        1. LiSiCyn 24 November 2019 11: 38 New
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          This is not the depth of thought ... This is BOTTOM.
          Quote: Thrifty
          I will not be surprised

          DIVO, WILD ... Although you will be more suitable
          Chekist, bottom line, not for you. hi
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            This is not the depth of thought ... This is BOTTOM.

            Moreover, with a bang, broken through to the underworld.
  • tetragram 24 November 2019 10: 54 New
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    Judas can also put
    1. Selxozotdel 24 November 2019 11: 10 New
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      Quote: tetragram
      Judas can also put

      And they’ll bet someone will be surprised?
      1. herev15 24 November 2019 13: 20 New
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        And to what did Judas annoy you?
        1. Selxozotdel 24 November 2019 14: 15 New
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          And to what did Judas annoy you?

          Nothing, normal Jewish dude .. wassat Now there are many such people in Russia .. hehe
          1. herev15 24 November 2019 14: 48 New
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            Well, I’m talking about, one Jewish dude threw his own :-)

            ORTHODOX CALENDAR (EVERY DAY 2019)

            HOLIDAY HISTORY CUTTING LORD:

            Eight days after the Nativity of Christ, which happened in the cave of Bethlehem, Saint Mary and her betrothed Joseph came to the Temple of Jerusalem with the Baby. They had to perform the obligatory Jewish rite - circumcision of the foreskin. By law, when circumcised, the Infant received the name Jesus. Translated from Hebrew, the Savior (Jesus is the Greek word from Hebrew) is Jehoshua (or, in short, Yeshua, Yeshu), which means "God the Savior." This name was given to him by the archangel Gabriel during the Annunciation of the Virgin Mary.
            After this circumcision ritual, the Baby became officially considered a full-fledged descendant of Abraham, He received the right to be a real Messiah for fellow tribesmen and to instruct them. And in the Church this holiday began to be called Circumcision in the flesh of the Lord Jesus Christ. On this day the glorification of the miraculous name is also glorified.
  • Sky strike fighter 24 November 2019 10: 57 New
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    In the Czech Republic gathered to erect a monument to General Vlasov

    Have fun. Why not Patrice Lumumba?wassat laughing And who is this Vlasov? They have already gotten to pull out muddy personalities and traitors from the garbage dump. It is clear that the Czech Republic, Poland and other Ukraine do not have their own opinions, their opinions form the elite of power bought and controlled by the United States through the technology of "forming public opinion", that is, Goebbels’s affairs. So the director is the USA. And since he’s not good at lately, such nonsense has been stirring up, which is performed by the vassals controlled by him.
  • mark1 24 November 2019 10: 57 New
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    From the point of view of normal people - breaking the dip relationship.
    1. Alexga 24 November 2019 11: 26 New
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      Or, at least, the recall of the ambassadors.
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    1. Ratmir_Ryazan 24 November 2019 11: 29 New
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      And along the way we will figure out why monuments to the Italian fascists who fought against the USSR are erected in the country!


      Where is this place?
      1. at84432384 24 November 2019 12: 40 New
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        Type in Yandex the “memorial sign to Krasnov” and you will learn things worse ... Also, on Yandex, you will also find monuments to Italian fascists, only the words “fascist” are not there, but there are monuments. Do you remember the Mannerheim memorial plaque in St. Petersburg? Overton's windows have long been wide open.
        1. AU Ivanov. 24 November 2019 12: 51 New
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          There is a striking difference between Mannerheim and Vlasov. Mannerheim did not swear an oath to the USSR and did not cheat on her. Therefore, Mannerheim is just an enemy, and Vlasov is a traitor, which is much worse.
          1. at84432384 24 November 2019 13: 05 New
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            I'm not talking about "what's worse." I mean that there is no place for monuments to the enemies of Russia on our land!
          2. Basil50 24 November 2019 13: 11 New
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            Vlasov and Mannerheim are different varieties of the very crap in which we are offered to dig. Traitors were both. For the sake of a personal career, no obstacles were seen
            Manerheim swore personally to the tsar, and of the RUSSIAN EMPIRE.
            Violated the oath to the king and the RUSSIAN EMPIRE
            Participated in the genocide of Russians who ended up in the territory captured by the Finns.
            By the way, he was awarded the German Iron Cross long before the start of WWII.
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              After the February coup of February 23 - March 2. The emperor abdicated, the empire ended. They overthrew the legitimate sovereign and his relatives (grand dukes). G. Mannerheim as N. Nazarbayev (G. Aliyev, I. Karimov, S. Niyazov) - headed his small homeland Finland (Nazarbayev - Kazakhstan) G. Mannerheim returned to Finland on December 18, 1917, and on December 6 Finland became independent ...
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          A memorial plaque to Mannerheim in St. Petersburg


          Where is this board now? What rubbish do you know?
          1. at84432384 24 November 2019 14: 37 New
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            And the authorities sent her to the trash, or the indignant Petersburgers? Here it is.
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              Quote: at84432384
              And the authorities sent her to the trash, or the indignant Petersburgers?

              Kamrad, in the end - what's the difference? The authorities screwed up - people corrected ... always would be request
  • 4ekist 24 November 2019 11: 06 New
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    I’m not surprised at anything. The “omitted” cannot have their own principles.
  • Fevralsk. Morev 24 November 2019 11: 08 New
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    Do you think they won’t deliver? Yes easily !!!!! We have the Lenin Mausoleum plywood closed on May 9. Our toothless leadership, in words, defends History, the Russian world, Russians abroad. But as a matter of fact, it comes to the case, oops. And the money, the villas, the children over the hill. Whatever happens.
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      Quote: Fevralsk. Morev
      !!!! We have the Lenin Mausoleum plywood closed on May 9.

      The mausoleum is a rudiment on the body of Red Square, it must be demolished, and Lenin stuck 2 meters into the ground, although a less radical solution is to make a museum out of the mausoleum, and bury Ilyich anyway.
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        RUSS
        Today, 15

        ,, I wonder, where is the mummy of Lenin now? maybe they buried already?
  • Selxozotdel 24 November 2019 11: 09 New
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    To annoy the Russians and get another loan from the IMF .. We know these schemes .. well, well negative
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    1. Honest Citizen 24 November 2019 11: 15 New
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      Link to the studio.
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        1. Honest Citizen 24 November 2019 11: 19 New
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          In fact, for the defense of Moscow, Vlasov received the Order of Lenin.

          Link to receive the Order of Lenin for Moscow. For wiki coupons, only the Order of the Red Banner and promotion are mentioned there.
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        2. rocket757 24 November 2019 11: 24 New
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          Quote: aquarius580
          In fact, for the defense of Moscow, Vlasov received the Order of Lenin.

          He was not the worst military commander, but how does this relate to the fact of betrayal and the transition to the service of the enemies of his PEOPLE?
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            1. rocket757 24 November 2019 11: 33 New
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              This is not that. He ordered / allowed his subordinates to surrender, this is one. Although there is also a crime, according to the laws of that time and situation.
              Going to the SERVICE to the enemy is a completely different calico.
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                1. Honest Citizen 24 November 2019 11: 41 New
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                  About the Stalinist regime can be more. In what was he not even bad, in what was he an enemy?
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                    1. Honest Citizen 24 November 2019 11: 48 New
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                      Well then, just tell me who you read: Rezun or Solzhenitsyn?
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                      2. Honest Citizen 24 November 2019 12: 03 New
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                        That's all, no further. After the phrase
                        decision of the Ukrainian court on the Holodomor

                        I can only advise you to turn on the brain.
                        And at the same time, SUDDENLY, take an interest in such a simple question:
                        why some countries since 1929, and some from 1930-1931 traded exclusively with grain from the USSR.
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                      4. Honest Citizen 24 November 2019 12: 10 New
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                        Yes, remove the foil hat from your head! They come up with "famines." In 1933, not only Ukraine was starving. You make a fetish out of everything. Remind me how the dances on the bones ended for Kaczynski?
                        And stop reading the Ukrainian press. This makes the brain liquefy.
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                      6. Andy 24 November 2019 12: 37 New
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                        Quote: aquarius580
                        Court materials are not classified; You can request a copy (for example, in the Court of Appeal of Kiev).

                        and the Nazis do not need to ask whom the Führer declared his personal enemy?
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                        No, the Nazis do not. Because Hitlerism has already been condemned at the Nuremberg trials.
    2. at84432384 24 November 2019 14: 45 New
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      Stop carrying liberalistic nonsense!
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    1. rocket757 24 November 2019 11: 43 New
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      Quote: aquarius580
      Your mistake is that you associate the Stalin regime with the Russian people

      Your mistake is that you consider others .....
      I never write anything for nothing! If I wrote that he is a traitor to OUR PEOPLE, then I think so.
      Never flies with cutlets do not interfere in one heap.
      Question, and KOLYA BOY, who do you personally have?
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        1. rocket757 24 November 2019 11: 53 New
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          The "diagnosis" is clear.
          Nothing more to talk about.
        2. AU Ivanov. 24 November 2019 12: 12 New
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          Denikin also did not agree with the Soviet regime. However, he didn’t go for cooperation with the Nazis, considering it unworthy of a Russian officer. Vlasov, a member of the CPSU (b), voluntarily offered his services to the enemy. I’m afraid that Vlasov was not thinking about overthrowing the regime, but about saving his skin. So that he is a traitor.
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        3. Andrey VOV 24 November 2019 16: 08 New
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          Where are you going to be from, a nice person and how many years are you?
    2. AVA77 24 November 2019 12: 43 New
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      But Stalin is part of the Russian people! Someone worships him, someone curses, but this is part of our history.
    3. Dym71 24 November 2019 13: 31 New
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      Quote: aquarius580
      On the side of the Germans also fought about two million Russians (Cossacks, etc.)

      Carefully, you had to figure out how many of these 2 million were fighting, and especially how many Russians were there!
      Quote: aquarius580
      So the correct interpretation of the Second World War was also a civil war.

      There is no justification for the traitors in their quantity or quality.
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        This is just a stubborn banderlog. Do not pay attention.
  • Selxozotdel 24 November 2019 14: 19 New
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    Quote: aquarius580
    Do not make me ask you if your Wikipedia coupons have run out.

    Do you mean Wikia lover? Well then, everything is clear with you .. hehe Me the Jews from their wiki (I have never been there) are already sickened .. She has them like the Talmud! ha ha ha
    I used to remember I directly imposed and Google including .. Now it’s quiet.. that .. .. gee ....
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    aquarius580 (aquarius580) Today, 12:13
    Honest Citizen (Sergey) Today, 12: 15

    ,,, Order of the Red Banner and promoted to lieutenant general.


    1. Sky strike fighter 24 November 2019 11: 37 New
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      Vlasov betrayed his homeland for a packet of cookies and a barrel of jam. His full story is on the link below.
      Vlasov was far from the first general captured, and at first he was not interested in anyone. With the exception of a few generals from the OKH who, on their own initiative, decided to probe the Soviet generals for potential future cooperation. Vlasova was worked on by Shtrik-Shtrikfeld, a former Russian officer from the Ostseey Germans who settled in Latvia after the revolution and served as a translator in the army. Following the results of conversations with him, Vlasov agreed that it was necessary to fight communism, and Stalin was the main evil. Shtrikfeld invited him to set out a memorandum on paper for submission to higher authorities.
      Vlasov wrote a note on the need to create a Russian army, which will fight with the communist forces on the side of the Germans. However, in the OKH, the general’s memorandum was completely without enthusiasm. They knew all the layouts perfectly and understood that it would be simply impossible to achieve the creation of such an army, primarily for ideological reasons. In addition, in mid-1942, the quick victory still seemed to the Germans a reality.
      It is unlikely that anyone can say what exactly prompted Vlasov to go over to the Germans. The harsh conditions of captivity? But Vlasov was in a special camp with special conditions, there was a normal attitude towards high-ranking officers. Cowardice? But Vlasov, according to the testimonies of those who knew him before the war, was not a coward. Ideological reasons? Vlasov himself claimed that it was they who prompted him to side with the Germans. But before being captured there was no hint that Vlasov was dissatisfied with something. He was a member of the party, did not fall under reprisals, was in good standing and did not have any visible problems on the official line and nothing hinted at his discontent. Ambition? Perhaps they served as the reason for the decision of Vlasov.

      https://life.ru/t/%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B9%D0%BD%D1%8B/1152213/ot_ghieroizma_do_priedatielstva_podlinnaia_istoriia_ghienierala_vlasova
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          Quote: aquarius580
          There is nothing about jam or cookies in this text. Ideological reasons - yes.

          Well, of course, the ideological reasons that were sharply revealed in the captivity of a member of the party. I thought that the Germans would win and decided to "adapt" to the future, but in the end lost it. The usual defector-adaptive. Holding and jam, I put it figuratively. Here, and so everything is clear. And you go to the next bot, which is trying to stir up the water.
          But before being captured there was no hint that Vlasov was dissatisfied with something. He was a member of the party, did not fall under reprisals, was in good standing and did not have any visible problems on the official line and nothing hinted at his discontent. Ambition? Perhaps it was they who served as the reason for the decision of Vlasov.
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            1. Sky strike fighter 24 November 2019 12: 24 New
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              And the army could at any moment make a coup for all its crimes against the Russian people. That's why Vlasov was sentenced to be hanged: as a deterrence to the generals, and not because Vlasov betrayed anyone there.

              But the fact that Vlasov ultimately fought against the Russian people on the side of Hitler, whose goal was the complete destruction of all the peoples of the USSR, including the Russians and their eviction so that the Germans had living space, is also concern for the Russian people? Are you a LYCEMER and Propagandon.
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                1. Sky strike fighter 24 November 2019 12: 40 New
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                  Are you for an objective review of history, or for engaging in insulting interlocutors?

                  If we start a long discussion now, it turns out that Stalin destroyed much more Russians, Ukrainians and other citizens of the USSR than Hitler.


                  This is objectivity !!! wassat good fool Are you kidding? I wonder how much you get paid for such heresy?
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                  2. Honest Citizen 24 November 2019 13: 00 New
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                    I wonder how much you get paid for such heresy?

                    Yes, the fact of the matter is that he is not paid. This is a convinced "fanatic". It is strange that he did not mention his national heroes Shukhevych and Bandera (it is possible that he instinctively jumps at their mention and is uncomfortable to knock on the clave of the computer) as wrestlers "with a mode" ... And at the same time he forgets DneproGES and the construction of factories, schools, hospitals. This is also the "criminal mode" built.
                    Now you understand why everyone is "decommunizing" there? Those. break the remnants of industry, issue books for yesterday’s schoolgirls “how to become a woman” (a woman with low social responsibility), cut medicine and so on - because this is the whole legacy of the “criminal regime”
                    Something like that.
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                    What is that, makes such conclusions.
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                    Quote: Sky Strike fighter
                    I wonder how much you get paid for such heresy?

                    Not everyone on the Internet has been downloaded as you think, do not judge by the Prigozhin’s Kremlin trolls
                2. Andrey VOV 24 November 2019 16: 11 New
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                  You’re just a traitor in your soul ... and you would have done exactly the same, one hundred percent, you are a traitor ... and you need to contact the site admin to sweep people like you out of here with a filthy broom and show all your real data to everyone so that they know here he is a traitor
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                    Quote: Andrey VOV
                    You’re just a traitor in your soul ... and you would have done exactly the same, one hundred percent, you are a traitor ... and you need to contact the site admin to sweep people like you out of here with a filthy broom and show all your real data to everyone so that they know here he is a traitor

                    So you yourself have revealed, you are a snitch! Thousands of innocent people have suffered from people like you during the years of repression, because of the denunciations they wrote as miserable little people as you.
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                    And you don’t want to answer for the informer? To get it in the drawbar? But to identify the real traitor is normal and correct, namely the present, the enemy and the traitor
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                    Quote: Andrey VOV
                    Do you want to answer for a snitch?

                    laughing laughing Thank you mixed !!!!! And you're funny wink
    2. AU Ivanov. 24 November 2019 12: 30 New
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      And for what reasons Vlasov voluntarily and with a song joined the ranks of the CPSU (b)? Was this a form of protest against the regime?
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        1. AU Ivanov. 24 November 2019 12: 47 New
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          Man always has a choice. In any mode. The military is called upon to defend his people, and not to stand on the side of the invader who destroyed our peoples, by the way, and according to racial principles. Conclusion - the military career chosen by Vlasov, and even coupled with joining the ranks of the ideological enemy - the Communist Party, is not a manifestation of patriotism, but careerism.
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          In the totalitarian regime, a person has no choice: which party to join. He really was a Russian patriot

          In contrast, I can only cite the feat of another Soviet general who was also captured: Dmitry Ivanovich Karbyshev.
          But this is the trouble. Vlasov was curled up, and no matter how he justified himself in his own eyes, he would forever remain a shame. Unlike Karbyshev, who remained faithful to duty and oath.
          One was hanged, like a scoundrel dog, and the second went to Eternity, left the Hero.
          So there is always a choice.
    3. mig29mks 24 November 2019 12: 52 New
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      What are your guidelines? "abroad will help us" the United States wants good for Russian citizens, only Putin needs to be removed! You, my friend, a deserter !!!
  • Rostislav Bely 24 November 2019 14: 00 New
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    Vlasov, an “agronomist” —a coward and careerist, unlike the same Efremov (he whitewashed those who were surrounded by his death), quickly repainted, so to speak ... He used the situation for career growth due to an increase in the army in the late 30s and a lack of command personnel , especially the younger one in terms of co-ordination (not repressions against Tukhlachevsky who admired the Wehrmacht and drunk Blucher and others like them had nothing to do with it, before that there was
    At 1 January 1937 years - 1 518 090 people.
    As of January 1, 1938 - 1 people
    On February 21 1939 of the year - 1 910 477 people.
    At 1 December 1939 years - 3 273 400 people.
    At 1 January 1940 years - 3 851 700 people.
    On February 1 1940 of the year - 4 229 954 people.
    On April 1 1940 of the year - 4 416 600 people.
    On 1 of May 1940 of the year - 3 990 993 people.
    On 1 June 1940 years - 4 055 479 people.
    At 1 September 1940 of the year - 3 423 499 people.
    On October 1 of 1940 of the year - 3 446 309 people.
    By January 1941 of the year - 4 200 000 people.
    compare the figures at the time of the arrest of Tukhlachevsky (and then the bias in the social origin of the employees in the NKVD bodies), the army adopted "On universal military duty" at 01,09,1939)
    - and then he was scared of a call to Moscow, then many were arrested for unreasonable losses of personnel ... the same “comrade-in-arms” from the ROA Bunyachenko was twice in court / investigation for unreasonable losses before being captured.
  • Sky strike fighter 24 November 2019 11: 21 New
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    In fact, for the defense of Moscow, Vlasov received the Order of Lenin.

    Has alternate reality curbed you? fellow fool sad Coke? Or what harder to use early in the morning?
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      Coke?

      Before rushing about drugs, bother to clarify how and what affects a person.
  • Ravil_Asnafovich 24 November 2019 11: 23 New
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    Actually, for the defense of Moscow, Vlasov received the Order of Lenin. Interesting for What ??? It has been proven that Judah slept in a hospital.
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    In fact, for the defense of Moscow, Vlasov received the Order of Lenin.


    Vrbbsche Vlasov is a TRAITOR and this fact crosses out all his previous merits !!!
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      1. Ratmir_Ryazan 24 November 2019 11: 47 New
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        Vlasov did not take a penny from the Russian people.


        What's in your head ?! Slops?!

        Vlasov, being a general and army commander, HIMSELF GIVED TO THE ENEMY in the most difficult period for our country and people !!! And after he led the army from the same traitors as he, which greatly facilitated the life of the Nazis, thanks to which they were able to send more soldiers to the front from the USSR, and we, in turn, suffered even more losses.

        The USSR is not an empire, but the Union of Republics and brought to ruin the same traitor - Gorbachev, after which he went to live in Germany. And no one erects monuments to him in Russia, but curses him, and much more than Vlasov’s.
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      2. Aviator_ 24 November 2019 11: 59 New
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        Of course traitors. One Secretary General Gorbi is worth it. And there are different Yakovlevs, Shevarnadze, Bakatin ...
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            Quote: aquarius580
            The entire top of the USSR turned out to be an organized criminal group.

            For a long time you sat and waited for your time damn .. heh heh Well, let's open completely completely gee gee
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        He took no Vlasov from the Russian people, not money, he took his life.
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    But what is quite normal, after the agreement between the countries on the installation of monuments to the white whales in Russia, it is possible to put a monument to Vlasov in Prague ... That the whites, that Vlasov fought against the Bolsheviks ...laughing
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      The Czechs asked about the installation of monuments to white whales, but what about Vlasov?
      Quote: parusnik
      But what is quite normal, after the agreement between the countries on the installation of monuments to the white whales in Russia, it is possible to put a monument to Vlasov in Prague ... That the whites, that Vlasov fought against the Bolsheviks ...laughing

      Or did they decide it was time?
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    So let him immediately put a monument to Hitler as an artist and a humanist. There are no censorship words addressed to this “elder policeman”.
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    Some unfinished accomplice of the Nazis decided to bend in front of the revenge-seekers.

    Bastard, immediately let Hitler erect a monument.
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    on the site of the monument to Soviet Marshal Konev, said the head of District 6 of Prague, Ondřej Kolář.

    ,,, in the Rzhepory district on the outskirts of Prague, the elder Pavel Novotny wants to put him up. The idea to pay tribute to the Vlasovites in this way to Novotny was suggested by his party colleague - historian Pavel Zhachek.
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      Is Novotny really a relative of the famous Nazi ace with "Czech roots" ?! winked
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    Hitler will soon begin to bet. If ours, although why the hell are they "ours" ?! If the Kremlin authorities, with the beginning of the struggle with the monuments to our soldiers, officers and generals, didn’t show concern, but answered with something more serious, you look and these “wrestlers" would take care.
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    Vlasov was deprived of the rank of "lieutenant general" and hanged with the title of "traitor". Maybe it’s enough to mention him in his former rank?
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      Quote: podval57
      Vlasov was deprived of the rank of "lieutenant general" and hanged with the title of "traitor". Maybe it’s enough to mention him in his former rank?

      hanged and that's enough men soldier ..And these tolerastics-liberals, "just provoke us to ban .. Calm need to be hehe
  • yuliatreb 24 November 2019 11: 42 New
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    I think they all remember very well, this is not forgotten. The goal of all these projects is clear, do not go to the grandmother. They are ready to get out of their way to please their American masters; not knowing the history does not relieve them of responsibility.
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      1. AU Ivanov. 24 November 2019 12: 19 New
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        What can’t you do to escape from the gallows? Vlasov turns out to be a traitor twice: once betrayed Stalin, the second time - Hitler.
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          1. AU Ivanov. 24 November 2019 12: 26 New
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            This is me figuratively. It can be said in another way: for the first time he betrayed the USSR, in the second - the Third Reich. So that Vlasov - a traitor - a recidivist. With a greater degree of probability, if Vlasov had taken the West to his service, he would have betrayed him, if it suddenly became profitable for him. Rotten man.
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                Quote: aquarius580
                But, he did not betray the Russian people. That is the whole point.

                Yes, yes, he just first fought for the Soviet (including Russian) people, and then against the Soviet (including Russian) people. And so he certainly did not betray the Soviet (including Russian) people. Who do you think we all are here for? request
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                Quote: aquarius580
                But, he did not betray the Russian people. That is the whole point.

                There’s even like .. hehe
                I am amazed at the statements made by Libers with beards .. negative
                This subject first laid the whole Army near Leningrad, and then how many more, he was a prisoner of war who didn’t agree with him in the concentration camps of Germany and other territories occupied by Judas, and this ended the bespectacled ..

                Damn Judas ... soldier
              3. AU Ivanov. 24 November 2019 12: 56 New
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                Yes of course. I did not betray. True, his units fought against the Russian people, killing him. Moreover, they fought on the side of those who considered the Russians to be Untermensch. But this is not a betrayal, is it?
          2. Gardamir 24 November 2019 13: 13 New
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            I do not know the text of the military oath of the Wehrmacht.

            https://topwar.ru/2687-teksty-voennoj-prisyagi-ryada-inostranyx-gosudarstv.html
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        Quote: aquarius580
        Vlasovites really entered Prague before the Soviet army did it.

        Yeah, only when it became clear to them that Soviet troops would enter Prague, they immediately gathered their manat and, together with the Germans, draped themselves into surrendering to the Americans.
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            Quote: aquarius580
            And why is this bad?

            Just for Bunyachenko, everything is bad. Contrary to his hopes, the Americans gave it to ours. Hanged, probably:
            Quote: aquarius580
            as a deterrent to the general

            In the yard of Butyrka.
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              1. Mordvin 3 24 November 2019 12: 35 New
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                Quote: aquarius580
                Beria, Zhukov and Khrushchev did decide to end the Stalinist regime. And did it.

                Why didn’t they erect a monument to Vlasov? Indeed, your confusion is already tired.
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                    You put on one level the personality of Stalin and Vlasov.

                    fool
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                Quote: aquarius580
                As you see, this did not help Stalin: Beria, Zhukov and Khrushchev decided to end the Stalinist regime. And did it.

                Bonjour Monsieur. You made my day! good
      3. Sky strike fighter 24 November 2019 12: 28 New
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        Well, why are you shamelessly shaving something? And a dreamer?
      4. Alex Justice 24 November 2019 17: 52 New
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        Patriots minus the truth.
        Vlasovites passed through Prague during the retreat. There was a clash with the Germans. Then everyone left Prague. The Russians entered an empty city, losing only about 50 soldiers. Alas, it’s true. The last one liberated Prague. These were Russian soldiers.
  • Operator 24 November 2019 11: 42 New
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    The installation of the monument to the leader of one of the auxiliary forces of the Wehrmacht is absolutely logical - in WWII the Czech Republic was part of the Third Reich and fought against the USSR.
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      Quite right: all large-caliber artillery was made at Czech plants, and there was no sabotage at the enterprises. I recalled one story read in childhood in the middle of the 60's. It said that one of the bombs dropped on the Kremlin did not explode. When it was cleared, it was discovered that it was filled with sand, in which there was a Czech-Russian dictionary with the phrase: "We help, we can. Czech Communists." Thank you for this bomb, of course, but I have a suspicion that all the other bombs that exploded are unlikely to be equipped by the NSDAP members. Of course, the real communists were there, for example, Julius Fucik. Interestingly, he still has a monument in Prague?
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        Julius Fucik. Interestingly, he still has a monument in Prague?
        The Fuchikova metro station in Prague is renamed to Nadraž Holešovice. A monument to J. Fucik was erected near the Stromovka park in Prague, in 1989 it was dismantled and put into the museum’s storerooms. By the efforts of the Society of Remembrance of Julius Fucik, on February 22, 2013, the monument was returned, but it was not erected in the old place, but not far from the graves of the Red Army soldiers at the Olshansky Cemetery in Prague. They even tried to make Y. Fucik a traitor, in modern Bohemia, they betrayed their comrades, and they tried to select authorship for "Reporting with a noose around his neck", but failed ...
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          Thanks for the info. I expected something similar from them regarding the real communist Julius Fucik.
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        By the way, about the bombing of Moscow. Found on the site http://www.retromap.ru/m/#121942_z12_55.772131,37.609634 the results of German raids on Moscow.
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          9 hits in the Kremlin.
  • gridasov 24 November 2019 11: 53 New
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    Many processes taking place in public, state and other local associations of people provide extensive research into the causes and consequences. This case is obvious that, firstly, many people do not know historical facts at all, and secondly, the authors of these projects themselves can hardly justify their sympathies for a particular revered image, and at least thirdly, they themselves seem to have no idea what Patriotism is, betrayal. Therefore, it is obviously not worth taking such hostilities with hostility. The process continues and the formation of man is an element of all transformations. Everything needs to be studied, researched and modeled for future development.
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      Process continues

      Yeah, the main thing is that this is not a decomposition process ....
  • The leader of the Redskins 24 November 2019 11: 55 New
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    Glad I'm not alone in indignation. Such a decision, this is nonsense. Vlasov, this is the shame of our nation and an example of shame for others. He crossed out all his previous merits with one single decision, which excuses would then not be found for this. I am ashamed if the decision of the headman will come true. This will mean that traitors can count on memory and monuments!
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    Well, the height of cynicism is changing the monument to a man who fought with fascism for a monument to those who walked hand in hand with the Nazis. These bastards are unaware that if it weren’t for people like Konev, the Vlasovites would crush the Czechs under the strict guidance of the Germans and only lose them the owner’s face rushed west and became “liberators”.
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    Vlasovites are essentially prostitutes. First they betrayed their country, then they betrayed the new masters. No wonder Europeans like these characters.
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      They would have sold Europeans at a convenient opportunity.
  • anjey 24 November 2019 12: 16 New
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    In the Czech Republic gathered to erect a monument to General Vlasov
    The centuries-old ideology of the West, to split and pit the Slavic peoples, weakening them by all means, is very relevant in our days.
    Not without reason, then in 1945, the Germans drove the Vlasovites to Prague, creating an artificial confrontation between the Slavs and the Slavs when the Red Army liberated Prague from the Nazis.
    The methods of the Goebbels ministry, loved by our modern enemies, it is a pity that not a few of them are among the Czechs ...
  • Knizhnik 24 November 2019 12: 20 New
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    It was not enough to just demolish the monument to Konev to these ubluds.
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    Recently, there have been many "winners" who themselves in 45 could defeat Germany and their allies, but what, for example, in 42 or 43 prevented?
  • Squelcher 24 November 2019 12: 25 New
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    Everything is boiling inside, sorry for the people who liberated Europe from the Nazis, they put so many lives for these ungrateful ones - it’s difficult to find words
    My great-grandfather in a tank burned out near Prague.
    1. Gardamir 24 November 2019 13: 10 New
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      It boils inside
      Well, take off the veil from the Mausoleum, discard the flag of the Russland division, And what about the order of General Krasnov serving the Nazis?
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        Well, take off the veil from the Mausoleum

        We’ll figure out what to do without you.
        discard the flag of the Russland division

        Let your mythical Russland refuse to appropriate the flag, introduced by Peter the Great at all, and not dirty it like you with its dirty little hands. This is not your Flag.
        And what about the orders of General Krasnov serving the Nazis?

        you know better.
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          what should we do
          Who are you? Liberal traders? The flag is nice to you, and you will justify the swastika. Yes, my flag is red under this flag was the Great Victory of 1945.
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            Quote: Gardamir
            my flag is red precisely under this flag was the Great Victory of 1945

            For some reason, you are trying to pull a red flag on yourself (which is not your personal one) and cling to the Victory, to which you personally have nothing to do. Why?

            I am just like you. And also from the Union. But for some reason I don’t waving flags, and I don’t trump Victory as a playing card.

            What do you think I'm doing wrong? wink
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              I am not a blackberry.
              Tell a thief a thief. is it a snap painting? It is better to admire a well-fitting businessman. God bless her with economics. Vlasov is a traitor? It seems that no one has any doubts, But why is Mannerheim a Russian officer?
              And a little more to the side, people are different, who is closer to that Soviet Union, but if my mother was born 25 years later, she would fit into the current reality.
              Well, finally. I didn’t register here to insult anyone, but I have my own opinion, someone has the opposite. Let's argue, not insult and tease each other. Now I answered you, because I think your reproach is fair.
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                Quote: Gardamir
                Let's argue, not insult and tease each other

                The correct approach, I can only welcome. But, unfortunately, most of your comments are so, ahem, emotionally charged, that there’s nothing to argue with request

                Quote: Gardamir
                Tell a thief a thief. is it a snap painting?

                You do not say this "thief", as a rule. And you pour out your righteous anger here. A thief - on the drum, but for me, for example, it’s not always nice to read this, ahem, unfiltered stream of consciousness.

                That's somehow it turns out yes
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                  emotionally charged
                  Thank you very much for this, I know better from the outside. It turns out one way out, less often to be here. Without irony and sarcasm, these words of yours are very important to me.
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        The former headquarters captain of the Imperial Army, D. M. Karbyshev, preferred death to betrayal.
        A true communist and faithful Leninist Vlasov served the killers.
  • Chaldon48 24 November 2019 12: 31 New
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    I think not far off when the monuments to Hitler appear.
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      The revanchists in the West are quietly and slowly leading to this, more than one generation with such views has already grown up, not everyone is there, of course there are thinking and adequate people.
  • cniza 24 November 2019 12: 38 New
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    The elder (the post is called) of one of the districts of Prague intends to erect a monument to General Vlasov on the site of the monument to Marshal Konev. The radical Czech politician explains his decision by the fact that the "Vlasovites" allegedly liberated Prague from the Nazi invaders, and not the Soviet army.


    Something seems to me that this is pure provocation and it is not worth breaking a spear.
  • Yury Siritsky 24 November 2019 12: 54 New
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    And what, this elder is the navel of the earth, that he decides which monument and where it should stand.
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    Pulls on a duck
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    So it was necessary for the Russians, there was nothing to erect monuments to Czech legionaries - executioners throughout the country. Receive and sign.
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    The Czechs actually admit that they fought on the side of Hitler .. A flag in their hands, a drum on the neck and on the railroad ties to meet a steam locomotive .... I never believed the country that became WWII general rehearsal
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      "Sovereign Emperor, according to the most comprehensive report of His Imperial Highness, Chief of the Navy and the Naval Department, on the 29th day of April 1896, the Highest deigned to recognize in all cases the white-blue-red flag national"
      So, the Russian tricolor Vlasov has arrogantly appropriated to himself.
      Although for Russia, a black-yellow-white imperial tricolor is more suitable.
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        Although
        That's how I agree with you more and more often lately. let not out loud. But here I bet. The last act overlaps the previous ones. The fact that Vlasov appropriated, was appropriated by the Democrats in 1991.
        And the second flag is the flag of the Holy Roman Empire. Agree, we don’t know much about history.
  • samarin1969 24 November 2019 13: 18 New
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    This is of course a personal matter of the Czechs. If the Nazis are closer to them than their ancestors who fought with them, then this is their choice. Russia will remember the heroes of Sokolovo. But the Russian Federation must introduce economic sanctions against the city hall of Prague.
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      But, what about the Russian Federation, that Vlasov has the same flag, is it like ???
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    Monument to Hitler is still shy to put, but so far.
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    Here are the fools ... Your memory is short. Do you think Russia is already “Fse”? Dead lion, and can I kick it?

    What kind of "memory"? They have a memory kept as they lived under the Third Reich, releasing military products for the Wehrmacht, who fought on the eastern front. And then the communists came and put an end to this. That’s all their memory. Hatred is toward Russia, not "memory."
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    Like everyone in Geyrob, the language is long, and the memory is short ..
  • iouris 24 November 2019 14: 00 New
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    ... and in the right hand there is a flagpole with a flag and they will think that Prague was liberated from the Germans by the Russian Federation, and not the USSR. In about five years, there will be such a mess in the heads of the population that it can only be cut with an ax. Still, "Europe from Lisbon," or "Horde from Vladivostok"? It's time to decide.
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    you need to remember all this and never forgive them for it.
  • Andrey Victorovich 24 November 2019 14: 02 New
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    Yes, let them immediately erect a monument to the "magnificent four" - Chamberlain, Daladier, Mussolini and Hitler, who fraternally divided Czechoslovakia.
  • Selxozotdel 24 November 2019 14: 12 New
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    Well, the time has come to call the Special Forces divisions again flashed by the name of Stalin!
    Well, the frigate, the newly built flagship of Ylot, is called this legendary name in Russia ..
    Better yet, the Stalin submarine! He moved on alert to the shores of the "partners" .. How does that sound?
  • Karaul14 24 November 2019 14: 28 New
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    You can shout as much as you like about traitors and that they don’t remember something there, they just remember everything. To free it means to give freedom, whereas the USSR "liberated" them, it released them from the Nazi cell and immediately put them in their own. They do not like him in the same way as most other Europeans from the former social networks. block.
    Now they already have a mature democratic society, which can objectively evaluate historical events from the height of our years, they will not return anywhere and will not sweep away, because it has already returned and boldly all that is needed, their people asked the EU and NATO themselves and nobody forcibly holds them there.
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      In fact, the question is not what they love, they don’t love, they don’t want to demolish, their country and theirs. The question is that instead of a monument to the person who liberated the Czechs from the Nazi cell, they want to put those who helped keep the Czechs in this cell. See the Nazi the cage is prettier to the Czechs. If it weren’t for people like Konev, the Germans would keep Europe in check and the Vlasovites would serve them faithfully and instead of the role of the “liberators” they had to play at the end of the war, they could well act as executioners if the Czechs had an attack of freedom .
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        The Bolsheviks brought to the point that many people were even ready to fight for Hitler, if only against the Bolsheviks. In fact, yes, if it had not been for the USSR, then Prague would not have been freed from the Germans, but, for example, this could not have happened, because until Germany attacked the USSR, he looked at all their deeds through the fingers. Many do not even see the difference - there are concentration camps and concentration camps there, except that the USSR, in their opinion, is "the lesser of evils," but still evil. This I mean that here everyone shouts about traitors and that they don’t remember something there.
        I don’t know why they decided to erect a monument to Vlasov, but I understand why they want to remove Konev.
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          Those many who do not see the difference of a close-minded people, a cardinal difference, I would say antagonism, is the extreme nationalism of the Germans, remember "Germany above all" and the internationalism of the Communists. Destruction of individual peoples, all its representatives without distinction of gender, age and social status, the complete submission of the rest and the dominant position of the Germans in Europe certainly, with the prospect of world domination, on the one hand, and the elimination of privileged classes and estates and not peoples on the other, and the full equality of peoples in rights .Yes, this equality was based on com ideology and all those who disagree with this were subjected to repression, but even this did not set the task of the total extermination of representatives of the abolished estates. Did few noblemen and merchants work for the Soviet government? What could happen and what could it be for an alternative history, but in reality, the current Czech Republic became a state, and did not remain a protectorate, thanks to marshals and rank and file of the Red Army in general, and Konev in particular. Of course, not pleading with the merits of the Western allies. amyatnik, once so the marshal is not nice, and even mockery for some turns.
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            They see the difference, but consider it simply a lesser evil, although, for example, for someone whom the Bolsheviks are shooting in the basement it is not very important, the Nazis are shooting it, or someone else.

            Quote: Buhach
            As for what could happen and what is not, this is an alternative story
            In reality, there was the fact that the USSR did not give a damn about what the Nazis did there until they touched it and they liberated the Czech Republic not for the Czechs, and this was already a civil war between the USSR and Germany. The Czech Republic sees itself only as a victim in it, as some left, but others came and nobody gave Czech freedom. The analogy is approximately the same - I release a person from the cell, but at the same time I do not give him freedom, he gets completely dependent on me in his actions, think only as I said, I punish for trying to solve anything in my life myself, and then I say "Are you fucked not to love me? -I let you out of the cage!".
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              You simplify everything to the limit, you might think that there were no communists in the socialist republic of Czechia, like in all other countries that became victims of the USSR. And in general, all of this here, I explained that it’s open to grieve for Vlasov’s sorrow over supporters of the Nazis but a hedgehog is understandable. However, you, of those who do not see the difference between the USSR and Germany. In one, I can agree with you that the liberation of the European countries from the Germans was not an end in itself, the goal was to destroy fascism, which happened. And the creation of a buffer zone eats at the western borders of the country governmental move, given the antagonism between socialism and capitalism, the more that the first open hostility displayed is west, only one plan "Unthinkable" is worth something!
  • lelik613 24 November 2019 14: 46 New
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    We must adequately respond to our "partners". For example, a monument was erected at the Polish embassy: Minister Sikorsky sucks off America. At the American Embassy to establish a polite guy treating Obama standing on all fours with a banana. Czechs-Stalin kick kicked Benes away.
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    Monument to Marshal Konev, on the site of which a monument to Vlasov may appear

    It may not appear. We will discuss the opinion of the headman.
  • Radikal 24 November 2019 15: 10 New
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    In the Czech Republic gathered to erect a monument to General Vlasov

    Better immediately Hitler, why trifle .... sad am
  • Berkut24 24 November 2019 17: 59 New
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    I already wrote that Nazism, fascism and narcissism are a natural state of the West. One can call calm only the time when he moves away from a Russian oar strike in the face. And then it starts again ... And each time Russia does not finish to the end, and leaves the rest of this rubbish for breeding.
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    Here is what L. Gumilev wrote about, recalling our ancestors:
    "... war is an exceptional state ... our ancestors were not confused in this problem. They introduced the concept of" oath "(oath), that is, legally formalized renunciation of a useful, and sometimes even a saving lie. The right to deception, to the ambiguity and evasion of man was preserved, but only in everyday life.The oath was distinguished as an extraordinary act, as a refusal to follow the laws of nature, i.e. the instinct of self-preservation ...
    ... Deception is simply an unseemly act, and violation of the oath, i.e. the deception of the trustee is a crime, a betrayal. "
  • Evil echo 24 November 2019 18: 13 New
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    It will not be superfluous to remind the master:
    . Be careful not to wake up the Russian! You do not know how his awakening will end for you.

    You can trample it in the mud, mix it with shit, scoff, humiliate, despise, insult. And at that moment, when it will seem to you that you have defeated the Russian, destroyed, defamed for all eternity, powdered - suddenly something extraordinary, amazing for you will happen.

    He will come to your house. Wearily, she will sink into a chair, put a machine gun on her knees, and look into her eyes. He will stink of gunpowder, blood, death, and it will be in your house. Russian will ask you only one question: “What is the strength, brother?”. It is at this moment that you 1000 once regret that you are not the brother of Russian. Because he will forgive his brother, but never for the enemy.

    The French remember. The Germans know. Russian lives in justice. Western man in the street - false briefings and crafty press conferences.

    As long as justice lives in his heart, the Russian will rise out of the mud, out of the darkness, out of hell. And you can't do anything about it. Because the Russians themselves can do nothing about this for more than one thousand years.
  • acetophenon 24 November 2019 18: 15 New
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    It depends on how you look ... If for the Czechs now the ukrofascists are their own, the American fascists are their own, and the Nazis were their own for a long time, so they did not betray anyone! It’s just ... well ... calmed down for a while, as it is customary for them, Czechs. Such are the Slavs ...
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    These can put a monument to Hitler ...