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In the USA, they expressed disinterest in Ukraine’s joining NATO

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In the USA, they expressed disinterest in Ukraine’s joining NATO

In the near future, NATO will not accept Ukraine into its ranks, the alliance is not interested in this amid possible aggravation of relations with Russia. This was stated by adviser to the President of the United States on national security Robert O'Brien.


At a security forum in Halifax, Canada, O'Brien, replying to a question from journalists, should NATO take more action to protect Ukraine from "Russian aggression," he said that Ukraine’s accession to NATO should not be expected in the near future, as the alliance does not want to enter into direct conflict with Russia.

As for NATO and Ukraine, I do not think that this is on the agenda now. (...) I don’t think that for NATO as a whole it would be attractive to accept Ukraine and enter into direct conflict with Russia

- he said.

According to an adviser to the American president, NATO was created to "prevent a conflict with Russia," which the West "strongly does not want."

At the same time, O'Brien emphasized, the United States is not going to “leave Kiev face to face with Moscow” and will continue to adhere to its position on this issue and support Ukraine in its confrontation with Russia.

Recall that the entry of Ukraine into the European Union and NATO is enshrined in the Constitution of the country. According to the functionaries of the alliance, Kiev will not be able to join NATO in the next twenty years, since several criteria necessary for entry remain unattainable.
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  1. WILL
    WILL 24 November 2019 06: 00 New
    +9
    Is Reason Winning? belay But then again, they won’t take it - but they will support .... just like in Ballet! laughing
    Be sure to look at the comments on Ukrainian resources! laughing
    1. Spartanez300
      Spartanez300 24 November 2019 06: 02 New
      +10

      We won’t accept it because we didn’t get out with a snout, but we will support as cannon fodder in the confrontation with Russia, this is an option for translating the article.
      1. krot
        krot 24 November 2019 06: 04 New
        +11
        The casseroles will soon realize that they cannot live without Russia, and as if nothing had happened, they will again ask for all sorts of subsidies, discounts and loans. Forgetting that they are traitors to Russia on all fronts!
        1. dSK
          dSK 24 November 2019 06: 32 New
          +3
          The future US ambassador called the conditions for improving relations with Russia- "Under Secretary of State Sullivan reiterated to Foreign Minister Lavrov that improving bilateral relations depends on Moscow's commitment to Minsk agreements and abandoning efforts to undermine our democratic processes, "the State Department said in a statement. / Interfax 01: 23/24/11/19.
          Amazingly - "they lie and do not blush."
        2. New Year day
          New Year day 24 November 2019 07: 44 New
          +7
          Quote: krot
          Saucepan heads will soon realize ...

          Even Gordon has already realized that they are not waiting for Ukraine in NATO and the EU, but proclaims Ukraine’s non-aligned status. About reconciliation with the Russian Federation, not a word. Wait and see
          1. rich
            rich 24 November 2019 08: 14 New
            +2
            Hungary remains one of the main opponents of Ukraine’s membership in NATO. Budapest has consistently vetoed the alliance's statements on Ukrainian membership, as well as any negotiations on this issue due to Kiev’s policy towards linguistic minorities living in the country. So the Americans just made a good face on a bad game
            1. rhino
              rhino 24 November 2019 12: 03 New
              -2
              Well, yes, just as Ukraine paid for all Hungary's hotels at its own expense, everything was fine. Just said sorry, pay yourself and stopped the issuance of passports, then immediately there were problems. This Hungary is not going anywhere.
            2. Amin_vivec
              Amin_vivec 24 November 2019 12: 05 New
              +1
              This is until Hungary is ordered by the elders. But while the position of Hungary suits everyone.
        3. Zhan
          Zhan 24 November 2019 09: 38 New
          +2
          Quote: krot
          The casseroles will soon realize that they cannot live without Russia, and as if nothing had happened, they will again ask for all sorts of subsidies, discounts and loans. Forgetting that they are traitors to Russia on all fronts!

          Already understood, but the point of no return has long been passed.
        4. NF68
          NF68 24 November 2019 15: 50 New
          +1
          Quote: krot
          The casseroles will soon realize that they cannot live without Russia, and as if nothing had happened, they will again ask for all sorts of subsidies, discounts and loans. Forgetting that they are traitors to Russia on all fronts!


          Soon pan-leg-heads will not understand this, since any, even the most sensible thoughts fall into their violent heads through the place where the horses usually sit. As a result, the "path" of any thoughts is very difficult and it takes a lot of time to overcome it.
    2. knn54
      knn54 24 November 2019 09: 30 New
      +2
      They are afraid that NATO will simply fall apart.
      1. Oyo Sarkazmi
        Oyo Sarkazmi 24 November 2019 11: 12 New
        0
        Quote: knn54
        They are afraid that NATO will simply fall apart.

        It is understandable. 60% of the population of Ukraine are ethnic Russians. And the dilemma is whether to introduce Russian generals with hundreds of relatives in Russia into the NATO headquarters, or limit itself to a few ultra-nationalist officers, for whom NATO is only a servant when Ukraine rises to the world empire.
        1. rhino
          rhino 24 November 2019 12: 05 New
          -3
          Even under the USSR, according to statistics, 18% of ethnic Russians lived in Ukraine. Even in school books this figure was.
          1. krot
            krot 24 November 2019 17: 38 New
            +1
            Even under the USSR, according to statistics, 18% of ethnic Russians lived in Ukraine. Even in school books this figure was.

            How old are you, son? laughing Have you ever seen a USSR history textbook? laughing
      2. rhino
        rhino 24 November 2019 12: 03 New
        -1
        But there are reasons and prerequisites ???
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 24 November 2019 10: 15 New
      0
      Quote: ANIMAL
      Is Reason Winning?

      It turns out the impoverished "cannon fodder" is not needed by anyone.
      1. Amin_vivec
        Amin_vivec 24 November 2019 12: 09 New
        +1
        Someone abandoned the "meat"? Just "cannon fodder" is not necessary to wear a "NATO" chevron. For such chevron "ISIS" or "SS Galitchina" will come down, - SHAME !!!.
    4. Sky strike fighter
      Sky strike fighter 24 November 2019 10: 19 New
      +1
      Quote: ANIMAL
      Is Reason Winning? belay But then again, they won’t take it - but they will support .... just like in Ballet! laughing
      Be sure to look at the comments on Ukrainian resources! laughing

      What kind of Reason is it? Are you laughing? It’s just that Ukraine, even without joining NATO, is under the control of the United States and works for Washington in international missions. And if so, then for Washington there is no reason to accept Ukraine into NATO, it controls it anyway, but it has no obligation to protect Ukraine in case of It’s convenient for the United States. It’s the same for joining the EU. Why, when did the EU hack the Ukrainian market and economy? That is, they already got what they wanted from Ukraine and there’s no reason to take it somewhere.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 24 November 2019 13: 25 New
        0
        Quote: Sky Strike fighter
        And if so, then for Washington there is no reason to accept Ukraine into NATO, it already controls it, but it does not have any obligation to defend Ukraine in case of anything.

        The owner gives the command "Ace, Fas!" and the Tuzik bites, and when the Tuzik bites the rottweller, the owner leaves to drink beer.
    5. Chaldon48
      Chaldon48 3 February 2020 04: 44 New
      0
      Alas, this is not reason, this is fear. Fear of the beginning of the end, in the event of a full-blown conflict, Russia will simply be forced to destroy NATO as an organization and it is not known whether the European Union will survive.
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  4. Selxozotdel
    Selxozotdel 24 November 2019 06: 22 New
    +4
    Ukraine tse not NATO .. ​​Why the United States are such a thieving rogue ..?
  5. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 24 November 2019 06: 22 New
    +1
    Well, about tomorrow’s admission to the ranks of the North Atlantic of Georgia and Ukraine, if I’m not mistaken, no one has announced. And how much more is there to talk about Brian? Trump will leave the post, and he will follow.
  6. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 24 November 2019 06: 36 New
    +6
    According to an adviser to the American president, NATO was created to "prevent a conflict with Russia," which the West "strongly does not want".

    In 1949, perhaps such tasks were posed in relation to the USSR Armed Forces and the VD countries (later). Time has passed. There is no longer the USSR and there is no SVD. Moreover, NATO was replenished with new members and circles, and it turned out that, in fact, NATO exists as an enclave capable of (if necessary) threatening Russia's security ...
    THREATEN!!! Or keep in constant voltage state.
    Well, and who today is able to scare the Russian army? Who is capable of "bullying" a Russian without fear of getting it by the cabbage soup? And in connection with the collective security agreement, it may become so that, due to the castle-headed government of Ukraine, many who can be forced to support it can get debris.
    WHAT NATO IS SUCH A GIFT? lol
  7. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 24 November 2019 06: 39 New
    +6
    Oh, NATO, you don’t know what you are giving up!
    This is such a fun start!
    Fighting at meetings, embroidered shirts, harem pants, dashing national battalions in the structure of the alliance, and most importantly there will be a real opportunity to sit NATO soldiers in the trenches and smell gunpowder.))
  8. Monar
    Monar 24 November 2019 06: 40 New
    +2
    Why did the Americans get so excited? Ukraine wrote in its constitution of NATO and panties and all. We'll have to fulfill the Americans. laughing
    1. Amin_vivec
      Amin_vivec 24 November 2019 12: 13 New
      -1
      Ukraine dofiga what she wrote: That the Russian language and Ukrainian are equal (in the constitution), that Ukraine is in the EU and NATO, that they have a war with Russia, and Russia is an aggressor)))) The paper then suffers.
  9. Thrifty
    Thrifty 24 November 2019 06: 45 New
    0
    If they are so brazenly lying, then in order to annoy us, they will accept us in NATO regardless of territorial problems, maybe even next year. ..
  10. taiga2018
    taiga2018 24 November 2019 06: 57 New
    0
    This is a signal to other inadequacies, which you hastened to admit to NATO at the time, saying that you don’t anger the Russian bear there, and if something happens, the principle "everyone is for himself ..."
  11. Prisoner
    Prisoner 24 November 2019 08: 38 New
    +1
    “At the same time, O'Brien emphasized, the United States is not going to“ leave Kiev face to face with Moscow ”..." (c) In general, the meaning is clear, there will be no remake of the Ukrainian SSR and the patient must die. "... In the future they will adhere to their position on this issue and support Ukraine in the confrontation with Russia." The same is clear, the patient must die in a confrontation with Russia. When it comes to the neighbors that they got ?! Although America with them, they themselves asked for it.
  12. O. Bender
    O. Bender 24 November 2019 09: 33 New
    0
    The United States loves the brain. It’s Ukraine who is NATO, is nicer than any other country. Believing them is more expensive. It would not be worth relaxing to think that the mind has won, who will throw the sharpened knife before the fight? The perfidy of the West and the hatred of Banderostan in total give Russia a bunch of problems.
  13. Terenin
    Terenin 24 November 2019 09: 33 New
    +3
    Kiev will not be able to join NATO in the next twenty years, since several criteria necessary for entry remain unfulfillable

    What nonsense, NATO is not a chess club, but a military-political organization and a conflict with Russia is its way of existence. What other criteria are there!? fool , it will be necessary - they will immediately accept. And now everything is simple, well, why accepting Ukraine into NATO to sign obligations for it requestwhen Ukraine already fulfills all their requirements, recommendations, whims ... at the click of a finger, as a waiter to a rich client.
    1. rhino
      rhino 24 November 2019 12: 09 New
      0
      I’m wondering, purely out of academic interest, what requirements does Ukraine fulfill ??? What are these requirements ??? NATO standards are just technical standards and nothing more. They are simply more attractive and modern. Shaw is wrong ???
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 24 November 2019 13: 40 New
        +1
        Quote: Nashorn
        I’m wondering, purely out of academic interest,

        Well, since you're intellectually appealing academic interest, you should be familiar with the “Individual Partnership Plan of Ukraine with NATO” from 2002

        Quote: Nashorn
        What requirements does Ukraine fulfill ???

        Now, offhand ... Ukraine supported the NATO operation in the Balkans: on June 12, 1999, Ukraine closed its airspace for several hours for Russian planes flying to Pristina ...
  14. bbtcs
    bbtcs 24 November 2019 09: 34 New
    -4
    Once again, it says that decision-makers are restrained and responsible. They can be cruel, alas, but they do nothing outrageously. This concerns Putin. And Zelensky. And Poroshenko.
    And propagandists against this background. Because artists and liars for a huge salary.
    By the way, there was an interesting remark about the stupidly composed SMS and cheating letters. Absolutely fools are screened out (supposedly).
    Conclusion - Russian television for deception and for fools. For a lot of money. Kiselev receives 20000000 million rubles a month, and Solovyov - 67000000.
    It’s scary to believe that.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 24 November 2019 10: 35 New
      +1
      Quote: bbtcs
      For a lot of money. Kiselyov receives 20000000 million rubles a month, and Solovyov receives 67000000.
      It’s scary to believe that.

      And you have your Ukrainian toad presses that someone gets more than you.
  15. bbtcs
    bbtcs 24 November 2019 09: 36 New
    -1
    Quote: Captive
    Ukraine is in a confrontation with Russia. "It’s also understandable, the patient must die in a confrontation with Russia. When will it come to the neighbors that they got ?! Although, America themselves asked for it.

    Here is another propagandist.
  16. bbtcs
    bbtcs 24 November 2019 09: 38 New
    -3
    Quote: Retvizan 8
    dashing national battalions in the structure of the alliance

    So the Russian paratroopers are also dashing. Also bricks head ...
    1. Amin_vivec
      Amin_vivec 24 November 2019 12: 15 New
      -1
      dashing people are bandits. Do not confuse Yellow with your finger.
  17. Ros 56
    Ros 56 24 November 2019 11: 00 New
    0
    We need all these gimmicks on the drum, the main thing for us from Kharkov to Odessa is to form the South-Western Federal District, and I think everything will settle down on this. Without access to the sea, who will need these banderlogs, they still do not hold them striped.
  18. Zoomlion
    Zoomlion 24 November 2019 16: 19 New
    0
    Checkmate
  19. bbtcs
    bbtcs 24 November 2019 17: 03 New
    -1
    Quote: tihonmarine
    Ukrainian

    Russian laughing
  20. bbtcs
    bbtcs 24 November 2019 17: 06 New
    -1
    Quote: Amin_Vivec
    dashing people

    No. Dashing those who can famously bring. Marines can. And generally speaking
    Dashing1, dashing, dashing; dashing, dashing, dashing, dashing (nar-poet, regional). Angry, evil, unkind. Dashing man. Dashing side. "To me? from a dashing villain? ” A.K. Tolstoy.
    || Painful, grave, destructive. Dashing ailment. Dashingly (adv.) Had to him on the wrong side. "Save from dashing adversity!" Demian Poor.
    ❖ Dashing trouble began or started (simple.) - It’s hard to just start, just to start.
    2.
    Dashing 2, dashing, dashing; dashing, dashing, dashing, dashing (dem.). Well done, daring. Dashing rider. “A dashing trio rushed before them with a fine fellow.” Pushkin.
    || Zalihvatsky, brisk, dandy. Dashing bearing. Dashing manners. Dashingly (adv.) To break a hat.

    Explanatory dictionary Ushakov. D.N. Ushakov. 1935-1940.

    So the meaning is ambiguous.
  21. bbtcs
    bbtcs 24 November 2019 17: 08 New
    -1
    Quote: tihonmarine
    that someone gets more than you.

    And it’s very bad that the Russians agree that those who do not benefit the people receive so much. No one should have a lot of money.
  22. capsid
    capsid 24 November 2019 18: 23 New
    0
    Ukraine is still attractive for NATO .. ​​NATO’s charter does not allow it to be accepted, then all the preparations will not be official for accepting a new member. Yes, and the arms hub from Ukraine will be good.
  23. Freedim
    Freedim 24 November 2019 18: 33 New
    0
    Amerikans perfectly understand that if they suddenly take Ukrainians to NATO, they will have to pay their own contributions. They also are well aware that sooner or later they will liquidate Ukrainian Nazis as terrorists, and not without the help of Russia, but in accordance with the charter will have to subscribe to the defense of this "incomplete". But do they need it? .. the Pindocyan is fighting exclusively for the purpose of making profit from the sale of weapons .. and away from the one who can surrender, and since the days of Korea and Vietnam, the Russians have been trying militarily not to stand in the way.
  24. Bear040
    Bear040 24 November 2019 18: 55 New
    +1
    The United States promised not to expand NATO eastward ... The United States to believe, not to respect yourself ...