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The Ministry of Defense confirmed the descent from the satellite’s orbit of the warning system

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The Ministry of Defense confirmed the descent from the satellite’s orbit of the warning system

The Russian Ministry of Defense has confirmed a message from the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) that the Russian Cosmos-2422 missile attack warning system (SPRN) has left orbit and burned out in the atmosphere. This is stated in the message of the military department.


According to the report, the Space Control Center of the Space Center of the Russian Space Center recorded fragments of a space object from orbit that occurred in 01: 15 Moscow time on 23 on November 2019 over the Pacific Ocean. The wreckage of the satellite burned during the passage of dense layers of the atmosphere.

Specialists from the Main Center for Space Intelligence (GC RKO) of the Space Forces of the Aerospace Forces confirmed the fact of the descent from the orbit of fragments of the Cosmos-2422 spacecraft

- said in a statement.

The Ministry of Defense explained that the Cosmos-2422 satellite, which had already exhausted its resource, descended from orbit. It was launched into orbit in 2006 and could track the launches of intercontinental ballistic missiles. Currently, the Russian military is forming a new space-based missile attack warning system based on the Tundra satellites, the first of which was sent into orbit in 2015.

Earlier, the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) issued a statement that spoke about the descent from the orbit of the Russian military satellite. The last mark on which the device was fixed is 80 km.
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  1. cniza
    cniza 23 November 2019 17: 23
    +7
    Specialists from the Main Center for Space Intelligence (GC RKO) of the Space Forces of the Aerospace Forces confirmed the fact of the descent from the orbit of fragments of the Cosmos-2422 spacecraft


    Normal full-time job ...
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 23 November 2019 17: 34
      +5
      Quote: cniza
      Normal full-time job ...

      States they are ... wassat
      Greetings, Victor! hi
      1. cniza
        cniza 23 November 2019 17: 36
        +4
        Good time! hi I admit I gave a reason ..., oh, these states. lol
        1. Shurik70
          Shurik70 23 November 2019 18: 04
          +20
          It is necessary to indicate directly in the title: "The Ministry of Defense confirmed PLANNED descent from orbit RESOURCE RESERVED satellite ".
          And then the most important Old - in the penultimate paragraph give. belay
          1. iConst
            iConst 23 November 2019 19: 11
            +6
            Quote: Shurik70
            It is necessary to indicate directly in the title: "The Ministry of Defense confirmed PLANNED descent from orbit RESOURCE RESERVED satellite ".
            And then the most important Old - in the penultimate paragraph give. belay

            Correction - the expected departure from orbit. The equipment of most satellites, especially the military, can work much longer than the estimated time, but the main problem is the exhaustion of fuel for adjusting the orbit and speed. And there is nothing to be done.

            Now the Americans are just working on a "tanker" that can either refuel satellites or adjust their orbits like a tractor.
            1. cniza
              cniza 23 November 2019 20: 47
              +6
              Journalists need a flashy headline, hence the name.
            2. eklmn
              eklmn 23 November 2019 22: 49
              0
              About the "refueling". It will be a tug designed by startup Momentus, and the company is located in California.
              https://momentus.space/
              The Russian engineer Mikhail Kokorich CEO, Founder and board member came up with this idea and company.
              An interesting person with a great idea. He came up with an original engine for space - on the water. At a temperature of about 6.000 degrees (from solar batteries), water turns into a plasma.
              Thanks to his tug, satellites can be made without any lift engines, only orientation. And so more instruments can be shoved into the satellite. Launch it in a low orbit and “order” the tug to raise higher. It will cost less than a rocket into the same orbit. SpaceX will launch its tug in 2020. Filling a tug with water is cheaper and easier.
              1. Omskgasmyas
                Omskgasmyas 24 November 2019 06: 33
                0
                An auxiliary task for such towers can set a goal - to bring space debris from orbits, that is, debris and spent satellites.
          2. Gerneton
            Gerneton 24 November 2019 07: 33
            0
            Quote: Shurik70
            And then the most important Old - in the penultimate paragraph give.

            so how does one ask for money to shake without a hype header? All media have it now, and it’s good that another penultimate paragraph has come down ...
      2. Rwmos
        Rwmos 23 November 2019 17: 46
        +4
        Nah ... States - they are such a thing ... Remember where exactly it was fucking? Now look where the sledgehammer is:

        "We are carrying ... Uh-uh ... Well, we are carrying!" Aha, and the future
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 23 November 2019 17: 52
          +13
          Quote: RWMos
          Nah ... States - they are such a thing ... Remember where exactly it was fucking? Now look where the sledgehammer is:

          Did the staff of the state have adopted our secret of fine-tuning the product "with the help of a sledgehammer and some kind of mother"? lol
          1. tol100v
            tol100v 23 November 2019 18: 16
            +3
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            Did the staff of the state have adopted our secret of fine-tuning the product "with the help of a sledgehammer and some kind of mother"?

            And fine-tuning with a file!
            1. Gray brother
              Gray brother 23 November 2019 18: 19
              +6
              Quote: Tol100v
              And fine-tuning with a file!

              They forgot about the campaign about the file.
              1. Rwmos
                Rwmos 23 November 2019 19: 01
                -1
                Yes, hedgehogs matryoshkas, you're all here - unsubscribed - not pioneers. The question is how to assemble Cosmopolitan - WITHOUT a slipway. And then, having smoked - you look at the welds in the photo .... Quiet! Scare your hiccupswassat
              2. AU Ivanov.
                AU Ivanov. 23 November 2019 23: 47
                +3
                Without blue electrical tape will not fly.
                1. Omskgasmyas
                  Omskgasmyas 24 November 2019 06: 47
                  0
                  I always preferred black rag, Kulibin himself came up with it.
            2. Rwmos
              Rwmos 23 November 2019 20: 21
              -1
              And fine-tuning with a file!

              captain wassat
            3. Dikson
              Dikson 24 November 2019 04: 20
              0
              "Sineva" is collected in the same way ... without a sledgehammer in rocketry - no way ...))
          2. Souchastnik
            Souchastnik 24 November 2019 11: 25
            +1
            Did the staff of the state have adopted our secret of fine-tuning the product "with the help of a sledgehammer and some kind of mother"?

            Brains drain west and secret technology drain wink
        2. Alien From
          Alien From 23 November 2019 18: 08
          +1
          "Nope ... States - they are just like that ... Do you remember exactly where it got fucked up? And now look where the sledgehammer is:" Now the mattresses will stink again, Russian trace, Russian trace ....)))
          1. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 23 November 2019 18: 45
            +4
            Quote: Alien From
            Now the mattresses will again stink-Russian trace, Russian trace ..

            What's the "Russian trace"? Just at the sight of such a sledgehammer, the roof of the rocket blew off. laughing
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 23 November 2019 21: 15
              +5
              Hello my friend Sasha! hi drinks
              The satellite has gone astray - it happens. In this life, this does not happen. And who is to blame? wink
        3. Berkut24
          Berkut24 23 November 2019 18: 29
          +1
          Now look where the sledgehammer is:

          Probably, the on-board computer is being tweaked. Stuck up behind a 10mm stainless steel wall.
          1. Piramidon
            Piramidon 23 November 2019 19: 03
            +7
            Quote: Berkut24
            Probably, the on-board computer is being tweaked.

            So what? We called it - a tester,


            and this is tweezers laughing
        4. Fraracol_2
          Fraracol_2 23 November 2019 18: 56
          -7
          Have you forgotten about the sledgehammer at the FG Union? Here, at least nobody was going to launch people.
        5. Vadim237
          Vadim237 24 November 2019 12: 02
          0
          Nobody is building spaceships in purefields - they are building test benches, so the sledgehammer came in handy.
  2. Thrifty
    Thrifty 23 November 2019 17: 40
    +7
    Yes, the resource seemed to have worked out, but the American satellites launched even earlier than ours still fly conserved in orbit. They will be required, and will be withdrawn from the reserve, and will begin to work. ... here it is, our weak microelectronic base, it comes out sideways to us.
    1. Vadmir
      Vadmir 23 November 2019 17: 51
      +1
      Canned food consumes almost no fuel and can fly for a very long time. And here is our microelectronics, if the development of a resource means, first of all, the consumption of fuel?
      1. Seaflame
        Seaflame 23 November 2019 18: 12
        +1
        It can be assumed that the technological lag in microelectronics requires more energy consumption.
        1. Vadmir
          Vadmir 23 November 2019 18: 15
          +4
          requires more power consumption
          Satellites receive energy for electronics from the sun using solar panels. And energy consumption has nothing to do with the lifetime in orbit.
          1. Gray brother
            Gray brother 23 November 2019 18: 22
            +4
            Quote: Vadmir
            using solar panels.

            Solar panels degrade over time from ionizing radiation. Even folded.
          2. Ramzaj99
            Ramzaj99 23 November 2019 19: 31
            +7
            Quote: Vadmir
            Satellites receive energy for electronics from the sun using solar panels. And energy consumption has nothing to do with the lifetime in orbit.

            I declare responsibly.
            The satellites have special space batteries. And when they work out their resource, no energy of the sun will help.
            (I know, because I was connected with their release)
            1. Dikson
              Dikson 24 November 2019 04: 25
              0
              As far as I know, last year in Russia they started producing batteries with a life of 50 years ... Moreover, as always with us, they invented much earlier, but you had to share future income, appoint co-authors, not to offend investors, and about leaders of the country and regions do not forget ..
              1. Dikson
                Dikson 24 November 2019 07: 13
                -1
                Минусатору - для информации чисто..http://yandex.ru/clck/jsredir?bu=1rf96e&from=yandex.ru%3Bsearch%2F%3Bweb%3B%3B&text=&etext=8734.7MMiyxurLShUHaD0wWUj2LcuzUbxjHRspexXV-bTfbMNfKkJj8lQNlKi3Gv2G3yZFvyKJGlKM4GGOdSs3qiwWwqO3Qv8I_7PNI7zMWzQNoNQawnxOdRTk41q0P5bmi8V.11b511a81236fe1a23faac221848e7c43d44b690&uuid=&state=PEtFfuTeVD4jaxywoSUvtB2i7c0_vxGd2E9eR729KuIQGpPxcKWQSHSdfi63Is_-DnbKz8oeZi03zNbL8hD-tnmraSr8fFjA&&cst=AiuY0DBWFJ5Hyx_fyvalFNlJdDg4QzmI6TGB1tnxOPSU-HjGLzz9Y-HPPJbJJvQLx2jWqjShVZNLasv948weCeUZPbyjJunl6yqh74IoWmjHSHbTOQNu1h1gIB2l8ModPKaODeaYgYT2YTrLGH2bU0HrTUx05elsw-Qw6SIlYPKL15gNLvSPVIMWlpTmnrGdJVqfegG07NydIru80C0So1uTCf7E7Y_vGSpQK4wKdULucLNxUDIkfmGhCCV8nq6gpC8xHPmYZfTRbKZVwLUTEVFYLI9MwyDU2XA1Lynlpj52HgeY7IhqqeA7QlM4zJ2veAh_AJFgHJPF6H1LZWg8NwJ0if_kbbKtmZEfjEf8cd2rL-CMctF_T2toFUovjw98P6lz4WDEBOMxyqJ7HUnxJA,,&data=UlNrNmk5WktYejY4cHFySjRXSWhXSjBXX09FRVJJSHJxSWV5b3JFRkZic2pwaE9kZ2EyY2VSTTlUcmVFenp4VjZxaEZldlBIcEZKNUZQZ24zZ0ZGQzhmVFhhdHdfSlR3NG5JaXExVGtOOG5OQWd2VWlTaDZtZ291eDBOdm43ckdrZ1dxcVoxYVNFV0tPaW1YRmE5TDNPYW9wOVNYS2xGUVhTbFhfRHlJVGdhRjdwa05CWlhuY2csLA,,&sign=361abc32be8a771fd41a42b06abb8cf2&keyno=0&b64e=2&ref=orjY4mGPRjk5boDnW0uvlrrd71vZw9kpjly_ySFdX80,&l10n=ru&cts=1574568753164%40%40events%3D%5B%7B%22event%22%3A%22click%22%2C%22id%22%3A%221rf96e%22%2C%22cts%22%3A1574568753164%2C%22fast%22%3A%7B%22organic%22%3A1%7D%2C%22service%22%3A%22web%22%2C%22event-id%22%3A%22k3chkxl8gv%22%7D%5D&mc=4.481714572986072&hdtime=249781
      2. 1976AG
        1976AG 23 November 2019 18: 25
        +8
        It is electronics that are exposed to radiation, not fuel. It would be a matter of fuel, our would have served no less than Amer
      3. tol100v
        tol100v 23 November 2019 18: 35
        +2
        Quote: Vadmir
        And here is our microelectronics, if the development of a resource means, first of all, the consumption of fuel?

        Difficult about the simple. The resource is not only the fuel supply, but also the operating time of the electronics! And taking into account the changeability (quick changeover of "hardware" and "software"), this is his fate: planned deorbiting! Planned, not emergency!
      4. NordOst16
        NordOst16 23 November 2019 18: 58
        0
        Well, by the way, not always because of the development of fuel. Modern satellites, if my memory serves me right, are quite capable of maintaining the desired height due to electric rocket engines, which are powered by solar panels and they need to use the rail less often for these purposes. And here the reliability and efficiency of the microelectronic base comes to the forefront. For these parameters favorably affect the satellite’s resource, its efficiency and mass.
        1. 16329
          16329 23 November 2019 20: 07
          +1
          Generally, there are usually small mono-component catalytic fuel orientation engines
          1. NordOst16
            NordOst16 23 November 2019 21: 55
            0
            Well, I read that ion engines and SPD are used to correct orbits. Chemicals are also used for this.
        2. not main
          not main 23 November 2019 20: 21
          +1
          Quote: NordOst16
          electric rocket engines that are powered by solar panels

          Could you give more details? And then it draws to the Nobel Prize!
          1. Arthur 85
            Arthur 85 23 November 2019 20: 28
            0
            But in general it’s very strange: in a high orbit (in a high vacuum) the satellite can rotate until the second coming ... The moon is spinning that is a billion years old, it spends crazy energy on the earth's tides, and nothing fell. Some astronomers even say that it is moving away from the Earth (which, however, is some kind of wild nonsense.)
            1. not main
              not main 23 November 2019 21: 25
              +1
              Quote: Arthur 85
              But in general it’s very strange: in a high orbit (in a high vacuum) the satellite can rotate until the second coming ... The moon is spinning that is a billion years old, it spends crazy energy on the earth's tides, and nothing fell. Some astronomers even say that it is moving away from the Earth (which, however, is some kind of wild nonsense.)

              Learn physics! And distinguish the orbits of the satellites! Geostationary orbit, what are you talking about?
              1. Arthur 85
                Arthur 85 24 November 2019 06: 16
                +1
                I didn’t see something where it says about the geostationary orbit, but even if it’s - it’s a rather high orbit, I don’t see why it would go without the engines turning on, or some kind of external influence.
          2. alexmach
            alexmach 23 November 2019 21: 21
            0
            for heaven’s sake, they’ve been used since the 70s.
            http://martiantime.narod.ru/Base/encyclopedia.htm
          3. NordOst16
            NordOst16 23 November 2019 21: 59
            +1
            I think those who need it have already received their awards on this topic.
            You can read material on this topic by typing in a search: ion engines, Hayabusa-2, SPD.
            ERE is a very promising direction in rocketry.
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    2. KCA
      KCA 23 November 2019 17: 52
      +1
      And what about the microelectronic base? In space, on the contrary, the smaller the micron, the shorter the service life, in this case, the orbital altitude and the amount of fuel to adjust the orbit of a permanently falling satellite affects the duration
      1. NordOst16
        NordOst16 23 November 2019 19: 03
        0
        Well, by the way, it’s far from always, modern developments make it possible to make a new element base more compact, productive and durable. And the struggle to reduce the process technology and increase reliability is very active although it encounters much more significant problems (like the Europeans are designing a crystal with 28nm process technology, while ours are working on, I don’t remember, 65nm or 45nm of those processes.
        1. Gaersul
          Gaersul 23 November 2019 20: 23
          +3
          Quote: NordOst16
          struggle to reduce process technology and increase reliability

          Respected. What you have listed refers mainly to civilian products, for special the most important is reliability, microelectronics in special. technology is attention, tens and hundreds of micrometers. Not nanometers. Our main problem is the almost complete destruction of special-purpose microelectronics as such, and the entire cycle, starting with the chemical industry. I don't even mention the problem of personnel training (blue-collar specialties simply stopped training). There is no technology (often they simply "modernize" the old one, and I did not write in quotes for nothing, there is a sad experience), there are no specialists, there is no chemistry. reagents. And most importantly. Thrice-damned tender system. I assure you, the same targets for UVN are very different from the country of their production, the best among the damned Americans, but be healthy and get them all the more difficult, but it would seem an ordinary copper.
          1. alexmach
            alexmach 23 November 2019 21: 23
            0
            Respected. What you listed applies mainly to civilian products,

            I confirm that no one in space is civilian, and doesn’t use electronics made using technology designed for the Earth. And no one is chasing nanometers there.

            Once he held in his hands a "distant ancestor" system which he flew into space.
            1. NordOst16
              NordOst16 23 November 2019 21: 49
              0
              And I didn’t write that in space they use equipment made for civilian use, well, probably, in addition to the smallest satellites that have a lifetime of a few days and are located in low orbits (Cubesat)
          2. NordOst16
            NordOst16 23 November 2019 21: 48
            +2
            That you, the engineers are also people, like the military, and they also want to get more productive systems in their hands, which will give the first an opportunity to improve the characteristics of the systems, and the latter to take advantage of the technical superiority over the enemy. And space systems here are no exception.

            Quote: Gaersul
            microelectronics in special. technology is attention, tens and hundreds of micrometers

            This is already quite outdated information or, possibly, relevant only for the Russian special. electronics because the Americans have already rolled out the processor for space systems using the 45nm process technology (RAD5500) and soon, if not already, the Europeans will roll out DAHLIA with 28nm process technology. Our sawn 65 nm prots for space systems. The RAD750, released in 2001, had a 0,25-0,15 micron process technology and hit Mars aboard Curiosity.

            Yes, I think it’s extremely unpleasant that we have very few specialists who can teach students modern material in the field of semiconductor manufacturing. It would be necessary to start or write out specialists, as in distant times, from abroad, or send students there, or maybe do both. Industry - if there are personnel and demand, then, it seems to me, production will be adjusted. But all this requires an integrated approach.
            1. alexmach
              alexmach 23 November 2019 23: 24
              +2
              Industry - if there are personnel and demand, then, it seems to me, production will be adjusted. But all this requires an integrated approach.

              where will the demand come from? Industry cannot be built on satellites alone, but the military-industrial complex, and consumer goods are needed.
              1. NordOst16
                NordOst16 23 November 2019 23: 32
                +1
                Well, in this regard, we lagged behind very much and it is unlikely that we can do anything. Although if it becomes easier to start and develop a business in the Russian Federation and contributions to education and science increase, then maybe something new will be able to come up with us, and then the whole world will use it
                1. Dikson
                  Dikson 24 November 2019 04: 57
                  +4
                  Of course we have lagged behind .. But with what squeamish condescension we look at the cheap Chinese toys and household appliances .. And the industry begins with this .. - with massive cheap products, the sale of which allows you to train personnel and improve technology .. "It will become easier to develop business in Russia .".. Yes you? compare the cities on the Russian-Chinese border .. It's too late to drink Borjomi .. Having entered the WTO, we cut off the legs of our production .. Any shop or microelectronics plant opened now in Russia will certainly be unprofitable - its products will be orders of magnitude more expensive than Asian products .. And worse in parameters .. For capitalism and the market .. And small batches of products for the military-industrial complex and Roskosmos, which are almost manually adjusted to the required parameters, cost enormous money and will never pay off ... With joyful squeals, we ruined the system of secondary specialized education in the country, and The salaries of engineers and technicians will not come from foreigners .. Of course, a vocational school that produces machine operators according to programs and training equipment of the last century is not interesting and necessary to anyone .. But is there an option to train for employees of your enterprise right at home? To train specialists for the necessary areas and for work on "native" equipment? Only this whole venture rests on money that must be taken from the main production and from managers in order to give it to the training and advanced training system .. And we, as we all know, have no money .. therefore, except for strong frames and platforms for We do not really produce anything for satellites. And the whole workshops of aunties and girls with soldering irons in their hands have not disappeared from the factories .. As well as locksmiths with hammers and mallets .. And then we wonder how it was possible to put the sensor upside down in a rocket .. How, how, with this hammer. It is naive to think that if the civilian sector of industry is a complete ass, then everything is in perfect order in the military sector.
                  1. Gaersul
                    Gaersul 24 November 2019 10: 22
                    +2
                    Quote: Dikson
                    But isn't there an option to train employees of your enterprise right at home? To train specialists for the necessary areas and for work on "native" equipment?

                    Dear, cut right on the patient. You probably are not aware that since 2012, on-the-job training (I mean a state enterprise) is impossible, since this will be considered an educational activity that needs to be licensed. That is, in fact, you will have to open an educational institution ... from scratch. Writing curricula, plans, preparing those whom you will appoint as teachers, can you imagine the scale of the problem? The system that existed before, when we could take a person from the street as a student, teach, convene a commission, assign a category based on the results of control work, now does not exist. Accordingly, the training of personnel for the enterprise is extremely difficult. If machine operators, welders, and installers can still be trained at the so-called "advanced training courses" in colleges (and in fact we do everything right here, and there our workers just get a crust to get away from the next check), then here with microelectronics trouble. Photo masters, photolithographs, vacuum deposition operators (and this is attention, for a minute, what microelectronics essentially consists of) are not prepared in Russia from the word at all! There is a specialty (it is combined into an enlarged specialty: the operator of microelectronic production), but not one, I emphasize, not a single college in Russia trains specialists in it. And now the question is, what do we want from the domestic microelectronic production? Just do not consider me "all-consuming" - it's just a cry from the heart.
                    1. Vadim237
                      Vadim237 24 November 2019 12: 09
                      0
                      There are 3000 different offices in Russia: design bureaus of factories of factories of private firms engaged in electronics, radio electronics and microelectronics - they train specialists in any place: Photomakers, photolithographs, vacuum spraying operators and CAD design of electronic components proper.
                      1. Gaersul
                        Gaersul 24 November 2019 12: 39
                        +2
                        Quote: Vadim237
                        on any somewhere specialists are trained

                        In private companies, they probably train, the main thing there is that a specialist works for the state. enterprises, in addition, it is necessary that a person be trained in an organization licensed by the Ministry of Education, according to a program approved and corresponding to standards. There are currently no such educational institutions (according to the programs indicated by me) in Russia (or we did not find). Well, in fairness it is worth noting that with photolithographs you can still get around this moment by taking a specialist who received a diploma in the specialty 11.03.04 "Electronics and nanoelectronics", but you must agree, put a person with higher education, who is better suited as a technologist, on the place of a simple operator is irrational. Our company has been looking for such an institution for several years already, the question sent to the instance remained unanswered. Therefore, if you know about such an institution, then please inform in a personal.
            2. K-612-O
              K-612-O 24 November 2019 09: 45
              0
              45 nm or less will require additional radiation protection, otherwise the service life will be less than 3 years or zero at all. And this is a reduction in payload and reliability. Flash on the Sun and Khan's satellite. At my enterprise, they have been doing 45 and 32 nm for a long time, but only as a citizen, in ACS-TP. And 69 nm goes into military and space products, they will not miss the requirements of IKI RAS and the RF Ministry of Defense. They probably sit there or do they need reliable electronics?
              1. NordOst16
                NordOst16 24 November 2019 11: 47
                0
                I won’t argue with you, but I don’t think that American or European guys would use unreliable chips
        2. K-612-O
          K-612-O 24 November 2019 09: 39
          0
          Less than 65nm, burns immediately from radiation. You read about the radiation resistance of ERI, space is getting thicker than 65 nm, we have 69 standards, so that at least the margin is in stability
          1. NordOst16
            NordOst16 24 November 2019 11: 44
            0
            Standards do not always keep up with new technical capabilities. And it is not a fact that a chip with a manufacturing process of more than 100 nm will withstand the required dose (which also differs by type) if it is not prepared. For not everything depends on the process technology. I’m far from thinking that the engineers who designed the RAD5500 and are designing a European chip did not take measures to ensure the long-term operation of their devices. Especially considering the life of their satellites and ours.
    3. 1976AG
      1976AG 23 November 2019 18: 05
      0
      But if you recall that until recently the life of our spacecraft was 3-5 years, then 13 is already quite good.
      1. slipped
        slipped 23 November 2019 22: 31
        +1
        Quote: 1976AG
        But if you recall that until recently the life of our spacecraft was 3-5 years, then 13 is already quite good.


        Sesat was 17 years old. laughing
        1. Dikson
          Dikson 24 November 2019 05: 01
          0
          Remind me, whose filling in Sesat stood? Is it not Alcatel Espace?
          1. slipped
            slipped 24 November 2019 13: 25
            0
            Quote: Dikson
            Remind me, whose filling in Sesat stood? Is it not Alcatel Espace?


            Remind you laughing . We are talking about the platform, it is she who is responsible for the CAC. TAS for this satellite has supplied us with transmitters in the framework of mutually beneficial cooperation. As for domestic-made transmitters, such technologies are already involved in flying military vehicles.
  3. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 23 November 2019 17: 41
    -1
    The main thing is that the replacement would be launched on time and with "backup"!)))
    1. slipped
      slipped 23 November 2019 22: 33
      +3
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      The main thing is that the replacement would be launched on time and with "backup"!)))


      Duc, they launched two months ago.
  4. Vadmir
    Vadmir 23 November 2019 17: 46
    +1
    SPRN satellites are vital for our country, it is necessary that there is a reserve in the constellation of such satellites.
  5. knn54
    knn54 23 November 2019 18: 02
    +1
    Satellite rotation.
    1. Fraracol_2
      Fraracol_2 23 November 2019 18: 59
      -1
      One way?
  6. Kelwin
    Kelwin 23 November 2019 19: 11
    -1
    As a consumer of hot news, I authorize the norad command to buy one bun with poppy seeds.
  7. syndicalist
    syndicalist 23 November 2019 19: 13
    +3
    the military department forms a new space missile attack warning system based on the Tundra satellites

    By 2020, it was planned to launch 10 such satellites. It’s already the 20th year, but only 3 Tundra are in orbit.
    1. slipped
      slipped 25 November 2019 01: 54
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      Quote: syndicalist
      The 20th year is running out


      A call from the future? lol
  8. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 23 November 2019 19: 52
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    The title is intriguing, but in fact a routine.
  9. Chaldon48
    Chaldon48 23 November 2019 20: 14
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    What burns will not burn.
  10. demokrat86
    demokrat86 23 November 2019 20: 19
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    Well, our MO is still the source, they can sleep ..... be. Not once already noticed this
  11. Nick
    Nick 23 November 2019 20: 32
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    This is good! Updated.
    1. NordOst16
      NordOst16 23 November 2019 22: 02
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      Um, no, we only have 3 Tundra hanging, there’s virtually no space echelon SPRN
  12. vadivm59
    vadivm59 23 November 2019 20: 45
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    but let us know, it’s not fate? MO confirmed the message NORAD. POSOZNIKI. IT IS PLAYING IN SECRET.
  13. Kachesgm
    Kachesgm 23 November 2019 21: 52
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    The satellite was in geostationary orbit, so it did not require fuel to maintain the orbit. This is also a satellite from the TC200 series. In the middle of the 2006s, the warriors suddenly realized that almost the entire constellation of tracking satellites was out of order and ... In 15, this satellite was collected from the remains in warehouses. In general, no one expected that he would work so much. The so-called replacement of "Tundra" or BAO EKS is being done, but many design problems are encountered, and while non-serial copies are flying into orbit. So in the case of launching new devices in series, the tracking group will increase to XNUMX devices.
    1. Gaersul
      Gaersul 27 November 2019 18: 10
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      Quote: KachesGM
      In 2006, this satellite was collected from the remains in warehouses. In general, no one expected that he would work so much. The so-called replacement of "Tundra" or BAO EKS is being done, but many design problems are encountered, and while non-serial copies are flying into orbit.

      Dear, where did you get such information? If you believe the Internet, the following people are working on this system: the Central Research Institute Comet (Payload Module) and the Rocket and Space Corporation Energia (platform development). Do you work for one of these companies? bully
  14. Old26
    Old26 23 November 2019 22: 48
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    Quote: NordOst16
    Well, by the way, not always because of the development of fuel. Modern satellites, if my memory serves me right, are quite capable of maintaining the desired height due to electric rocket engines, which are powered by solar panels and they need to use the rail less often for these purposes. And here the reliability and efficiency of the microelectronic base comes to the forefront. For these parameters favorably affect the satellite’s resource, its efficiency and mass.

    He has VEO. With the correction on it more often than on the geostationary. And it is unlikely that such adjustments can be made by electric rocket motors. Still, the 2,5-ton satellite is easier to "move" with liquid.
    In addition, the satellite was launched in July 2006. In orbit for over 13 years ...

    Quote: Arthur 85
    But in general it’s very strange: in a high orbit (in a high vacuum) the satellite can rotate until the second coming ... The moon is spinning that is a billion years old, it spends crazy energy on the earth's tides, and nothing fell. Some astronomers even say that it is moving away from the Earth (which, however, is some kind of wild nonsense.)

    It does not have a high circular orbit or geostationary, but a highly elliptical orbit. At least such characteristics are in the public domain

    Quote: syndicalist
    the military department forms a new space missile attack warning system based on the Tundra satellites

    By 2020, it was planned to launch 10 such satellites. It’s already the 20th year, but only 3 Tundra are in orbit.

    Everything is correct. Only 2019 is coming to an end, not 2020. Previous "Tundras" were launched at intervals of the 2nd. In 2015, 2017 and July 2019

    Quote: KachesGM
    The satellite was in geostationary orbit, so it did not require fuel to maintain the orbit. This is also a satellite from the TC200 series. In the middle of the 2006s, the warriors suddenly realized that almost the entire constellation of tracking satellites was out of order and ... In 15, this satellite was collected from the remains in warehouses. In general, no one expected that he would work so much. The so-called replacement of "Tundra" or BAO EKS is being done, but many design problems are encountered, and while non-serial copies are flying into orbit. So in the case of launching new devices in series, the tracking group will increase to XNUMX devices.

    The satellite has never been in geostationary orbit. It was launched into a highly elliptical orbit (HEO), or as it is sometimes called, "Molniya" orbit with the following characteristics

    VEO Orbit Type
    Eccentricity 0,7363
    Inclination 62,8 °
    Period of circulation 703,9 minutes
    Apocenter 39134 km
    Pericenter 534 km
    Repetition Interval 12 h
    Revolutions per day 2

    In 2006 this Cosmos 2422 satellite was collected from the remnants and then another 3 satellites - In 2007 (Cosmos-2430), in 2008 (Cosmos-2446) and in 2010 (Cosmos-2469) Good remnants if 3 more satellites were collected
    1. slipped
      slipped 23 November 2019 22: 58
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      Well, the missiles for the new Tundra are already ready, it’s the readiness of the payload.
  15. Fevralsk. Morev
    Fevralsk. Morev 24 November 2019 03: 47
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    Eco, the space troops of the military space forces are wonderfully named. Can’t it be easier?
  16. aszzz888
    aszzz888 24 November 2019 05: 16
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    It was launched into orbit in 2006

    13 years worked. Everything when it gets old, and develops its resource.
  17. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 24 November 2019 05: 26
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    Well for a highly elliptical orbit 13 years is a normal term
  18. Selxozotdel
    Selxozotdel 24 November 2019 06: 58
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    Something was recalled in the newspaper Pravda, always in small print, "Another satellite is launched. Kosmos is like that" or "a manned spacecraft with two cosmonauts docked successfully .." It was all in the order of things and no one really paid attention to it .. Eh times were ..!
    1. slipped
      slipped 24 November 2019 13: 38
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      Quote: Selxozotdel
      It was all in the order of things and no one really paid attention to it.


      This is now in the order of things. And then there was simply no Internet.
      1. Selxozotdel
        Selxozotdel 24 November 2019 15: 07
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        Quote: slipped
        Quote: Selxozotdel
        It was all in the order of things and no one really paid attention to it.


        This is now in the order of things. And then there was simply no Internet.

        And here is the Internet. When our orbital station (the first in the world) was simply burned and sunk in the oceans .. now we take amers into orbit .., like a coachman .. hehe
        You don’t understand anything, my son, with your Internet, how do you brainwash the duriks there .. hi
        1. From Siberia we
          From Siberia we 24 November 2019 18: 20
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          it's not the internet, it's rent. look, there we have half a year left before the colonization of Mars, exoskeletons and cyborgs. the United States will bend tomorrow or the day after tomorrow, and our salaries and pensions will be 100500 thousand each and education with medicine will reach unattainable heights wassat
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 24 November 2019 19: 57
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          You generally saw this station - in the late 90s it was a miserable sight in terms of wear and tear.
          1. slipped
            slipped 25 November 2019 01: 48
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            Quote: Vadim237
            You generally saw this station - in the late 90s it was a miserable sight in terms of wear and tear.


            OPS "MIR" flew off three of its terms in the basic block. At the same time, one or two modules could be saved by transferring them to the ISS RS for another 10 years.
        3. slipped
          slipped 25 November 2019 01: 34
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          Quote: Selxozotdel
          And here is the Internet. When our orbital station (the first in the world) was simply burned and sunk in the oceans ..


          Is this about "Dawn" stoll? lol

          Quote: Selxozotdel
          now we are taking amers into orbit .. like a coachman .. heh heh


          like good Samaritans, help the wretched laughing

          Quote: Selxozotdel
          You don’t understand anything, my son, with your Internet, how do you brainwash the duriks there .. hi


          Grandpa, get out of classmates - yours are not there, they died a long time ago laughing
    2. valeryb
      valeryb 24 November 2019 20: 39
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      Quote: Selxozotdel
      Oh, the times were ..!
      Well so who did? Knowledgeable people, but the type of Mikhan. Not what?