Russia and Ukraine did not resolve disagreements during arbitration in The Hague

Russia and Ukraine did not resolve disagreements during arbitration in The Hague

Russia and Ukraine failed to resolve a single disagreement over the incident in the Kerch Strait during the first meeting of the interstate arbitration in The Hague, which took place on November 21. This was stated in the Russian Foreign Ministry.


As explained in the Russian Foreign Ministry, the representatives of Russia and Ukraine could not resolve a single disagreement that arose on controversial issues.

Despite earlier attempts by the parties to reach agreement on controversial issues, fundamental disagreements remain between them and were submitted to the meeting. In the course of it, however, the parties failed to resolve any of them.

- said in a statement.

As a result, the Hague arbitration will itself be determined on those issues where there were disagreements, including the need to divide the process into two stages, which Russia insisted on.

The adoption of procedural documents by the arbitration is expected in the near future. After that, the proceedings between Ukraine and Russia in connection with the Kerch incident will enter the practical phase

- reported to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

Earlier, the Russian Foreign Ministry stated that the incident with Ukrainian courts in the Kerch Strait area is not within the jurisdiction of international arbitration and that the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea cannot be involved in resolving the dispute between Moscow and Kiev on this incident. Based on this, the Russian side demands to divide the process into two stages, where at the first one should consider the presence or absence of competence of the arbitration tribunal to consider this case, and then consider the case on the merits. Ukraine is categorically against.

At the same time, Ukrainian Deputy Foreign Minister Yelena Zerkal said that Kiev intends to "prove to the world" that Russia's actions in the Kerch Strait violated international law.
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  1. Mountain shooter 23 November 2019 13: 06 New
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    Even commenting is disgusting on the actions of the Ukrainian side ... Forever whining and forever offended, the whole world and fate, the female dog ...
    1. Politruk-m 23 November 2019 13: 11 New
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      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Forever whining and forever offended, for the whole world and for fate, a female dog

      Well, who settled in power in Kiev (temporarily)? crying
      Under this noise, they started to take out black soil ... I hope they will not undermine the last nuclear power plant? That's what I fear .. hi
      1. Honest Citizen 23 November 2019 13: 25 New
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        I hope the last nuclear power plant will not undermine

        They have a worse problem there. Not so long ago (about three days ago), an article was written on this topic in VO - there is a cascade of hydroelectric power stations. Now, if it "leaks", then it will be a real disaster.
        1. Sergei 23 23 November 2019 14: 29 New
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          Dams and we sometimes leak! HERE NOW!
          1. cniza 23 November 2019 16: 17 New
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            Quote: Mountain Shooter
            Even commenting is disgusting on the actions of the Ukrainian side ... Forever whining and forever offended, the whole world and fate, the female dog ...


            Interestingly, they will endure for a long time?
          2. 113262a 23 November 2019 20: 04 New
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            You are not in the subject! The whole cascade will collapse, and this is a tsunami! And the Crimea will get!
      2. tihonmarine 23 November 2019 13: 48 New
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        Quote: Politruk-M
        I hope the last nuclear power plant will not undermine? That's what I fear

        You say such words better under the pillow, do not out loud.
        1. Politruk-m 23 November 2019 13: 58 New
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          Quote: tihonmarine
          Quote: Politruk-M
          I hope the last nuclear power plant will not undermine? That's what I fear

          You say such words better under the pillow, do not out loud.

          I’ll say, I smell a rocket in the window flies heh heh
          But I'm tired of being silent and as if not offending anyone from the "brothers" ..
          I am old and sick and I have nothing to lose .. hi Be that there will be men he he khe
          1. tihonmarine 23 November 2019 14: 12 New
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            Quote: Politruk-M
            I’ll say, I smell a rocket in the window flies heh heh
            But I was tired of being silent and as if not offending anyone from the "brothers."

            Well look, I warned you.
            1. Politruk-m 23 November 2019 15: 04 New
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              Quote: tihonmarine
              Quote: Politruk-M
              I’ll say, I smell a rocket in the window flies heh heh
              But I was tired of being silent and as if not offending anyone from the "brothers."

              Well look, I warned you.

              Yes, I know Vlad hi And still I am torn to the line of fire and to hell not my brother eh Soul hurts terribly ..
              Oh, I would have to attack Russian so that .. For the last time, cheers and all
              1. tihonmarine 23 November 2019 15: 56 New
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                Quote: Politruk-M
                Yes, I know Vlad. And yet I am torn to the line of fire, and to hell not my brother. Oh. The soul hurts terribly ..
                Oh, I would have to attack Russian so that .. For the last time, cheers and all

                Yes, I’m like that myself, I’ve suffered all my life for the tongue and the “sword”. Only now it has passed since you stayed in your own country, and I have 19.08.1991 of the year in my own, and I woke up 20.08.1991 of the year in a foreign country. The mouth closed, the checker became dull and thrown into the basement. Here I am only an observer with a crooked grin.
              2. Terenin 23 November 2019 16: 43 New
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                Quote: Politruk-M
                Oh, I would have to attack Russian so that .. For the last time, cheers and all

                Don’t grieve, friend, the Russians, after the last ..., had another terrible attack for the enemies. - "Attack of the Dead: Osovets."
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U518G8fUk6o
                1. Phil77 23 November 2019 17: 26 New
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                  Or so.
                  Who dared to miss the land?
                  Forget to think and do not grieve. The number of the order ... Secret ... Listen ... To everyone, everyone, everyone who is buried on the ground: Comrades sailors, foremen and officers. On the anniversary of our glorious victory
                  The flagship allows you to tear apart the door
                  And open your neck wide open.
                  Fishes and monsters of the deep sea
                  Drive through the holes in a jamb,
                  Darn jackets with threads of mud
                  Plaques kick the golden sand.
                  Exactly midnight with a fourth hit
                  Surf to the surface, leveling side by side.
                  I’ll be in charge of the parade.
                  And, as ordered, at midnight
                  We grabbed the rails to the touch
                  We drowned silently, fell silently
                  And silently surfaced, surfaced, surfaced ..... V.Pikul. A parade of dead teams.
      3. Vladimir_6 23 November 2019 14: 51 New
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        Quote: Politruk-M
        Well, who settled in power in Kiev (temporarily)?

        Vague doubts torment me temporarily. They have very powerful support.
    2. Andrei Nikolaevich 23 November 2019 13: 36 New
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      ,, forever whining and forever offended ,, This is called the mentality, you are my dear. Fight is impossible, but nip is quite possible and should!
    3. tihonmarine 23 November 2019 13: 52 New
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      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Forever whining and forever offended, for the whole world and for fate, the female dog ...

      And how can one not recall Taras Shevchenko, who knew his people so well, "Roar and Stogne Dnіpr wide, Angry vіter zaviva." How old, and everyone groans and howls, it's time to think about life.
    4. Alien From 23 November 2019 13: 53 New
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      The non-brothers will not freeze until a little bit, their brains will not turn on ......, for some reason, they have the opposite ..... (
    5. Leshy1975 23 November 2019 14: 01 New
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      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Even commenting is disgusting on the actions of the Ukrainian side ... Forever whining and forever offended, the whole world and fate, the female dog ...

      Well, it’s understandable to scold Ukraine, it’s the right thing. The pluses will pour hoo. But what do you propose to do with the Hague arbitration? And there, after all, Ukraine also filed a lawsuit against the United Nations on the financing of terrorism. No, it is of course, you can call Ukraine whatever you like, but the claims will not go anywhere. Or maybe someone hoped that Ukraine would inflame Russia with love and gratitude? Why suddenly? The power of the Russian Federation itself is to blame, it was necessary to complete the matter, and not contribute to the legitimization of the current Ukrainian government. And now, get a summons, sign it. And most likely that according to the results of all these proceedings, the Russian Federation will be left offended. Gazprom has already assessed how it is suing in European courts with Ukraine.
      1. Mountain shooter 23 November 2019 14: 17 New
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        Quote: Leshy1975
        now, get a summons, sign. And most likely that according to the results of all these proceedings, the RF will be offended

        The offended Russian Federation will not be left at all because Ukraine is right, but because Russia needs to ... do something ... this is the "mainstream" of Europe and the USA. This is in the minds and in the judges of all courts ... Did Gazprom judge it rightly?
        Wow wording: "given the difficult economic situation of Ukraine ..." - translated - you need to give her alms! But not out of pocket, but out of the pocket of rich Russia. belay Your example just speaks about it!
        1. Leshy1975 23 November 2019 14: 28 New
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          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          Quote: Leshy1975
          now, get a summons, sign. And most likely that according to the results of all these proceedings, the RF will be offended

          The offended Russian Federation will not be left at all because Ukraine is right, but because Russia needs to ... do something ... this is the "mainstream" of Europe and the USA. This is in the minds and in the judges of all courts ... Did Gazprom judge it rightly?
          Wow wording: "given the difficult economic situation of Ukraine ..." - translated - you need to give her alms! But not out of pocket, but out of the pocket of rich Russia. belay Your example just speaks about it!

          Yes, but all this does not abolish the actual state of affairs - Ukraine will now drag the Russian Federation through international courts and most likely will win in many cases. And this will mean that the Russian Federation will incur losses: financial, property, image. Has Ukraine driven Russia into this trap? Yes, the Russian authorities themselves did this, with their own hands. Or do not agree with this that the Russian authorities deceived themselves with stories about the KhPP, well, the people who believed (who of course did) believed too? They will pay out of the state pocket. So why now blame Ukraine. Show me the one who was waiting after all thanks from Ukraine and justice from the West. Where are these naive boys?
      2. Honest Citizen 23 November 2019 14: 28 New
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        The power of the Russian Federation itself is to blame, it was necessary to complete the matter, and not contribute to the legitimization of the current Ukrainian government.

        I agree.
        But if they had not legitimized, then there would have been no Minsk agreements.
      3. Flooding 23 November 2019 14: 34 New
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        Well, it’s understandable to scold Ukraine, the thing is true. The pluses will pour hoo. But what do you propose to do with the Hague arbitration?

        Oh, they will mess you up with your healthy realism.
        Obviously, one should not expect objectivity and impartiality from international institutions serving the interests of the West.
        And any interaction with them from the Russian side should be carefully weighed beforehand.
        1. Leshy1975 23 November 2019 14: 37 New
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          Quote: Flood
          Quote: Leshy1975
          Well, it’s understandable to scold Ukraine, the thing is true. The pluses will pour hoo. But what do you propose to do with the Hague arbitration?

          Oh, they will mess you up with your healthy realism.
          Obviously, one should not expect objectivity and impartiality from international institutions serving the interests of the West.
          And any interaction with them from the Russian side should be carefully weighed beforehand.

          Yes, I agree that they will blame, but, this is also part of realism. And I am for this one, as it is - realism, even if it will be with minuses. laughing hi
          1. Dmitry Donskoy 23 November 2019 17: 17 New
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            Here it is the whole essence of Ukrainians. A complete lack of conscience with great greed fool
            1. Leshy1975 23 November 2019 18: 01 New
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              Quote: Dmitry Donskoy
              Here it is the whole essence of Ukrainians. A complete lack of conscience with great greed fool

              So I do not understand, are they the same as us or others? You tell me directly, are they Russian people or not?
              And then I'm talking about
              Complete lack of conscience with great greed
              I can sketch out Russian examples. And in whom then we will write such greedy? I must say right away that there are definitely not Ukrainians. laughing
    6. Lbt21 23 November 2019 19: 10 New
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      But stepped over and wrote a comment)))
    7. mig29mks 23 November 2019 21: 05 New
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      Trump has a nervous breakdown at the mention of Ukraine. "a Jew roared when a Ukrainian was born." Where a Ukrainian with a fishing rod passed there, a Jew with nets, nothing to do)))))))))
  2. The leader of the Redskins 23 November 2019 13: 07 New
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    I said a year ago that everything happened too muddy. There would be a clear provocation, and the Hague would not sit. And now the devil knows what to think, after the “Gazprom” flights and decisions of the maritime tribunal ... Zakharova is still well done. She blurted out that the stolen toilet bowl does not affect the combat efficiency of the vessel. Is this recognizing that they still stole the point ?!
    1. iConst 23 November 2019 13: 13 New
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      The US is always this Hague ... you know yourself. repeat
      1. PSih2097 23 November 2019 23: 21 New
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        Quote: iConst
        The US is always this Hague ... you know yourself. repeat

        it’s high time to break it from direct fire with hail / hurricanes / tornadoes and not with double coating with one type of PSU, but in complex with covering once in 100, then remotely mine the territory with the same means (and after all they plowed it over and covered it with salt) ...
    2. tihonmarine 23 November 2019 13: 45 New
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      Zakharova is still well done. She blurted out that the stolen toilet bowl does not affect the combat efficiency of the vessel. Is this recognizing that they still stole the point ?!

      You are very wrong here, let Zakharova not agree. A toilet bowl in the Ukrainian Navy (infantry can even go to the top of the window) is the main component of the fleet’s combat effectiveness, which “sailor of the Vіyskovo Marine Fleet” can be combat-ready if it has pants in feces.
      1. The leader of the Redskins 23 November 2019 13: 55 New
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        As I understand it, any sailor / pilot / installation operator is not combat-ready if there is too much in the laundry! Now, if they close the toilets at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, they will start making wiser statements?) laughing
        1. tihonmarine 23 November 2019 14: 11 New
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          Now, if they close the toilets at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, they will start making wiser statements?

          The most reasonable decision to close all toilets in the "non-brotherly" Foreign Ministry.
  3. Major Yurik 23 November 2019 13: 11 New
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    At the same time, Deputy Foreign Minister of Ukraine Elena Zerkal said that Kiev intends to "prove to the world" .......

    Tenacity hohlobander- national trait! hi
  4. maidan.izrailovich 23 November 2019 13: 11 New
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    Yes, spit and grind.
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    1. mig29mks 23 November 2019 21: 09 New
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      And Mirror is not a relative of Skripal?
  6. tihonmarine 23 November 2019 13: 29 New
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    Russia and Ukraine failed to resolve a single disagreement over the incident in the Kerch Strait during the first meeting of the interstate arbitration in The Hague, which took place on November 21.
    Well, Ukraine has already drawn the Hague into the "Fecal-toilet" business. But America does not want to poke around in Ukrainian feces yet.
  7. Andrei Nikolaevich 23 November 2019 13: 33 New
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    To begin with, the current government in Ukraine has no legal authority. Legally, the current head of the country is V. Yanukovych. What, then, does the Ukrainian side have powers? Whom do they represent? What can be ,, claims ,,? -)
    1. New Year day 23 November 2019 13: 42 New
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      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      Whom do they represent?

      June 13 2014.
      The Kremlin’s official website for the first time without reservations called Petro Poroshenko the president of Ukraine.
      "A telephone conversation took place between Vladimir Putin and President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko. P. Poroshenko informed V. Putin about his plan to resolve the situation in the south-east of Ukraine," the President.rf website said in a statement.
      1. Andrei Nikolaevich 23 November 2019 13: 48 New
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        The Kremlin’s official website cannot be a subject of law and a party to the process. Learn ,, materiel ,,
        1. New Year day 23 November 2019 13: 56 New
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          Yes, you have to learn: the Kremlin recognized the election of Poroshenko, thereby legitimizing the coup and the elections themselves. By your logic, then Putin can not be a subject of law and a party to the process? laughing
          1. Andrei Nikolaevich 23 November 2019 14: 32 New
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            But did Putin come to power through horse racing in the squares? .. I think on the basis of the elections. Secondly: in the current Ukrainian authorities it is necessary to speak their own language. Deny, the obvious and recognize, stupidity, legally substantiating it. Consequently, if Russia is, ahressor, then the Ukrainian government is criminal. Bring me a power of attorney from Yanukovych and I will understand that you represent the interests of the Ukrainian state. At the same time, make a smart face ...-)
            1. New Year day 23 November 2019 14: 48 New
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              Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
              Did Putin come to power through horse racing in squares? .. I think based on the elections

              So Poroshenko through the elections. Russia recognized the elections, the leaders met, now what questions? Especially Zelensky, he is generally impeccable in this regard. It was necessary to think about Yanukovych then, and now it is late. Time is running
              1. Andrei Nikolaevich 23 November 2019 14: 53 New
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                Yes, I agree with you! But with Ukrainian idiots you need to communicate, in the language of idiots. Example: Ukraine- tse Europe! Without Ukraine, toilets in all of Europe will be dirty. Only thanks to independent Ukraine - in the EU outhouse - cleanliness in terms of SES! That's all, wisdom ,, -)
                1. New Year day 23 November 2019 15: 02 New
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                  Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
                  But with Ukrainian idiots you need to communicate, in the language of idiots.

                  honestly I don’t know how to communicate with them. The tone of their speeches at the household level now differs from the 14th year. Obviously, it starts to reach stubborn hi
                  1. Andrei Nikolaevich 23 November 2019 15: 20 New
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                    You know, I also came across such idiots a couple of times .. They don’t want to talk. Angry .-) I bring them to a white heat .-) Tolerate. They are silent. Russia is not Ukraine. You won’t be, especially .-)
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          2. Nyrobsky 23 November 2019 21: 16 New
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            Quote: Silvestr
            Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
            Whom do they represent?

            June 13 2014.
            The Kremlin’s official website for the first time without reservations called Petro Poroshenko the President of Ukraine. "A telephone conversation took place between Vladimir Putin and President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko .....

            Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
            The Kremlin’s official website cannot be a subject of law and a party to the process.

            Quote: Silvestr
            Yes, you have to learn: the Kremlin recognized Poroshenko’s elections, thereby legitimizing both the coup and the elections themselves.

            December 27 2016 The Dorogomilovsky court of Moscow recognized the events in Ukraine in 2014 as a coup d'etat. Perhaps after that, in general, all contacts were nullified.
            In principle, due to the fact that the change of power in Ukraine was carried out in violation of the procedure established by the Constitution, all subsequent events to this day are unconstitutional in nature, and those who exercise power are subject to criminal prosecution provided for in the Criminal Code of Ukraine - forcible seizure of power. And yet, yes, formally, but Yanukovych is still the president of Ukraine, because in the struggle for portfolios, the new “malignant Vlad” did not bother to make any changes to the Constitution that could somehow legitimize his removal from power. Is that to dismiss him for absenteeism)))
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              1. Nyrobsky 24 November 2019 10: 14 New
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                Quote: Lbt21
                And Moscow’s expensive court could not cancel the election of US presidents Obama and Trump

                I could not. Do not confuse the election with a coup.
                Quote: Lbt21
                With me "Hawthorn" !!!!

                What opportunities, such and offers? Poor Ukraine, except for Hawthorn, can’t afford anything anymore.
                1. Lbt21 24 November 2019 15: 55 New
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                  I suggest what is used by people like you!)))
                  1. Nyrobsky 24 November 2019 16: 43 New
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                    Quote: Lbt21
                    I suggest what is used by people like you!)))

                    ???????? What is in demand? Do not rush when you want to spoil, do it with a sense of sense and arrangement, otherwise you lose the words, and with them the meaning of the phrase.
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                  1. Nyrobsky 24 November 2019 16: 50 New
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                    Quote: Lbt21
                    But do not tell me what can be called the fact that in 90 x in Moscow, the tanks fired? Is not a coup !!! So that the fight between drunks and putin has the same legitimacy as Volochkova honor and general epaulettes!

                    Hrenase you have a salad in your head! Well, what is this coup? This, in 1993, was a usurpation of power through the shooting of parliament. The coup, or rather his attempt, was under the Emergency Committee in 1991, but it failed. By the way, both then in relation to Russia, and now in relation to Ukraine, the world community preferred not to notice that these acts were carried out in violation of the constitution of these subjects. Only now, if Russia somehow managed to get out of that situation and partially (not completely) restore its sovereignty, then Ukraine is doomed to the complete loss of its statehood, since it has no one to rely on, and what it chose as its support will do everything possible to that would tear it like an Acetic warmer. But it is your choice.
  8. Valery Valery 23 November 2019 13: 35 New
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    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    Even commenting is disgusting on the actions of the Ukrainian side ... Forever whining and forever offended, the whole world and fate, the female dog ...

    This is their way to earn dough for yourself.
    Well look at the unfortunate political scientist Kovtun. He perfectly understands that it is vile and ridiculous, but 1 million rubles a month covers everything.
    Now imagine that we are again brothers - Kovtun and his comrades are waiting for obscurity and poverty. Therefore, about them and such as they came up with: "to whom the war, and to whom the mother is dear"
    1. Gardamir 23 November 2019 13: 53 New
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      It was you who said well to whom the war is, and to whom the mother is dear. Now tell me who pays Kovtun?
      1. New Year day 23 November 2019 16: 13 New
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        Now tell me who pays Kovtun?

        Since television is on state subsidies, it turns out .... Russia? laughing
    2. Andrei Nikolaevich 23 November 2019 13: 54 New
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      ,, Now imagine that we are again brothers ... ,, That I do not need such brothers, again! Personally, I am more comfortable with mutually beneficial cooperation with a neighboring state. And ,, brothers ,, - are expensive both for the budget and for ordinary taxpayers. Example: US-England-France Relations. Have you ever heard them call themselves brothers? ..
  9. svoit 23 November 2019 13: 36 New
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    I don’t know how anyone, but for me the information about this case in open access is not enough to draw any conclusions on my own. Yes, and this article does not say anything. Even Russia's position is not reflected in any way.
    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    Zakharova is still well done. She blurted out that the stolen toilet bowl does not affect the combat efficiency of the vessel.

    Let her try to fight without latrine
    1. sabakina 23 November 2019 13: 47 New
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      Quote: svoit
      Let her try to fight without latrine
      And what? The Americans flew to the Moon several times without entogo device and nothing, getting out of the ship hearty, smiling and waved hands ... At the same time before the flight they ate as if for the last time.
    2. Brturin 23 November 2019 13: 48 New
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      Quote: svoit
      I don’t know how anyone, but for me the information about this case in open access is not enough to draw any conclusions on my own

      And so what happened - the tribunal once again found out that the parties didn’t agree, assigned the case its official name and retired to a meeting on a further schedule - to break the case into all parts (into the jurisdictional stage (the court has reason to consider the case or not - the parties’ positions are here long known
      The Russian side demands that the process be divided into two stages, where the first one is to consider the presence or absence of competence of the arbitration tribunal to consider this case, and then to consider the case on the merits. Ukraine strongly opposed

      ) and the main one) or recognize that the court has the power and will begin ... we are waiting
  10. Dikson 23 November 2019 13: 39 New
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    And they will win ..)) Why Ukrainians are able to sue and bargain .. It's not for you “Russia is a generous soul!” .. You have to be able to - to borrow money for someone else's gas .. You have to give them some other ships .. And let ours not return .. - we still have them!
    1. Andrei Nikolaevich 23 November 2019 13: 59 New
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      Dikson, you know, I have a feeling that it’s not just like that, the cutters returned ... Looks like somewhere around Ukro-petite they’ll tail ... And if they need a toilet, I can give it. The mother-in-law in the country has a decent one. Mother-in-law will not know .-) What for ,, brothers ,, you will not do ...-)
  11. Gardamir 23 November 2019 13: 50 New
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    It’s good to have a constant enemy ...
    1. Fraracol_2 23 November 2019 16: 11 New
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      And then who should blame everything?
  12. Evil 55 23 November 2019 13: 52 New
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    UKRAINE - poor, unhappy, terrible, toothless, with a loaf and a piece of fat in her hands, but with a raised hem and dirty legs ... she got everyone ..
  13. Alexga 23 November 2019 13: 59 New
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    With whom to negotiate there, #only on the whole, frozen!
  14. svoit 23 November 2019 14: 01 New
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    Quote: sabakina
    Amerikosy several times flew to the moon without entom device and nothing

    I don’t know how it is on an American ship, but in Ukrainian it is impossible without it
  15. Vladimir61 23 November 2019 14: 22 New
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    Where are the national interests of Russia and where is the Hague arbitration?
    Do not hell Russia there, even attend!
    1. Fraracol_2 23 November 2019 16: 18 New
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      Only then you will not present a single claim. It is unlikely that by the decision of the Basmanny Court someone will pay the damage received from someone else's actions in international waters. Well this is nothing, there is a large part of the Caspian Sea and Lake Baikal.
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        Quote: Fraancol_2
        Only then you will not present a single claim

        Claims are weak. The strong show the lineup from AK630 or Yuri Dolgorukov, after which usually there is no reason to complain for a very long time.
  16. Ros 56 23 November 2019 14: 38 New
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    This is impossible in principle, only adequate people can agree, and how Russia can come to terms with idiots, I personally have no idea, as indeed any normal person.
  17. evgen1221 23 November 2019 14: 42 New
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    Well, there is nothing surprising in terms of the mainstream and the regional committee’s installations that Russia must pay and pay for the gap between Ukraine and Russia from the west. That was voiced back in 2014.
  18. Vkd dvk 23 November 2019 14: 57 New
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    Not the country's position on this issue, but sheer impotence.
    If we do not recognize jurisdiction in the matter of MILITARY incidents at sea, then what the hell to put on your own when considering? Here, if we don’t recognize, then we don’t come to this court at all. Let the harvesters grunt with these judges for a couple.
    1. Avior 23 November 2019 19: 51 New
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      Not a court that can be ignored.
      1. Fikys 24 November 2019 09: 43 New
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        The United States ignores all courts except its own. Why should the Russian Federation not adopt this practice?
  19. Ross xnumx 23 November 2019 15: 13 New
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    Russia and Ukraine did not resolve disagreements during arbitration in The Hague


    Why does the Hague Tribunal have the right to resolve disagreements over the passage through the territorial waters (we can say the border) of Russia of foreign warships of a country that is (at the official statement of the Ukrainian president and the Ukrainian government) with the Russian Federation at war?
    There is a Montreux convention, where it is defined (though in relation to the Bosporus and Dardanelles) the following order:
    The passage of foreign warships through the straits and during the war is regulated. If Turkey is a belligerent, the passage of ships depends exclusively from the turkish government.


    Russia established the order of passage (did not establish a ban) of Ukrainian ships through its territory, under a hydraulic structure in accordance with security measures, and had every right to prevent the actions of another country that violate this order ...

    Okay. A thing of the past. Question (order) passing ships and warships of Ukraine under the Crimean bridge is defined? Ukraine signed? If not, there is no passage, if signed, let them go to The Hague ...
    By the way, you can demand a fee for the maintenance of hydraulic equipment, etc.
    In peacetime, merchant ships enjoy complete freedom of passage and navigation in the Black Sea straits day and night, regardless of the flag of the state and the cargo carried, and without any formalities. Pilotage in the straits is optional. Montreux Convention Grants Turkish Law levy a charge on each passing vessel to cover the costs of sanitary control, navigation barriers and the maintenance of the rescue service.
    1. 1976AG 23 November 2019 15: 58 New
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      Quote: ROSS 42
      Russia and Ukraine did not resolve disagreements during arbitration in The Hague


      Why does the Hague Tribunal have the right to resolve disagreements over the passage through the territorial waters (we can say the border) of Russia of foreign warships of a country that is (at the official statement of the Ukrainian president and the Ukrainian government) with the Russian Federation at war?
      There is a Montreux convention, where it is defined (though in relation to the Bosporus and Dardanelles) the following order:
      The passage of foreign warships through the straits and during the war is regulated. If Turkey is a belligerent, the passage of ships depends exclusively from the turkish government.


      Russia established the order of passage (did not establish a ban) of Ukrainian ships through its territory, under a hydraulic structure in accordance with security measures, and had every right to prevent the actions of another country that violate this order ...

      Okay. A thing of the past. Question (order) passing ships and warships of Ukraine under the Crimean bridge is defined? Ukraine signed? If not, there is no passage, if signed, let them go to The Hague ...
      By the way, you can demand a fee for the maintenance of hydraulic equipment, etc.
      In peacetime, merchant ships enjoy complete freedom of passage and navigation in the Black Sea straits day and night, regardless of the flag of the state and the cargo carried, and without any formalities. Pilotage in the straits is optional. Montreux Convention Grants Turkish Law levy a charge on each passing vessel to cover the costs of sanitary control, navigation barriers and the maintenance of the rescue service.

      At the expense of the maintenance fee for the bridge, you said it very well! They will choke in their anger. Especially if you regularly voice the type: this month Ukraine paid so much dollars to maintain the bridge.
  20. Semurg 23 November 2019 15: 31 New
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    If the Russian Federation loses court in The Hague, I think the maximum will pay money to Ukraine, so there’s nothing to worry about, but they showed everyone that your strait. laughing
    1. Avior 23 November 2019 19: 29 New
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      Not so easy.
      If you lose, you will have to comply with the requirements of the court according to the rules of the passage of the strait.
      The decisions of this court are recognized in most countries of the world, fraught with arrests of courts for debts
  21. svoit 23 November 2019 15: 45 New
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    Quote: ROSS 42
    being (at the official statement of the Ukrainian president and the Ukrainian government) with Russia in a state of war?

    So after all, Russia does not think so, and no one thinks so, besides Ukraine, if Russia would have said this too, then there would be another question, but so far it has been feeding Bandera properly.

    Quote: ROSS 42
    By the way, you can demand a fee for the maintenance of hydraulic equipment, etc.

    I don’t understand, don’t you know that they are already taking it officially for pilotage?
  22. cniza 23 November 2019 16: 09 New
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    At the same time, Ukrainian Deputy Foreign Minister Yelena Zerkal said that Kiev intends to "prove to the world" that Russia's actions in the Kerch Strait violated international law.


    Well, yes, the whole world is already with you ... if you want to prove something, then hysteria is not the best assistant.
  23. Leonid Bailov 23 November 2019 16: 28 New
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    Why not clearly explain the actions of the Russian Federation. Violation of the unrecognized border, non-recognition of the Crimea, this is one! But the threat to the safety of navigation and the rules of the passage of the strait is another! Yes, Russia has built a bridge. Many do not recognize him, but he is, and this is a strategic object. And Russia could not respond to the attempt to not correctly navigate the military and armed ships. Russia has assumed responsibility for security in this region (legally or not), but must comply.
  24. rocket757 23 November 2019 17: 04 New
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    So I want to ask, and naf us this The Hague, and naf us this arbitration ....
    Everyone who feels concrete / believes that they put a large bolt on all those international ones and do not worry!
  25. Vadmir 23 November 2019 18: 07 New
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    As a result, the Hague arbitration will be determined on those issues where there are disagreements.
    The Hague considers Crimea the territory of Ukraine and, accordingly, all differences will turn in favor of Ukraine. The question is what is Russia doing at this trial? Was the outcome of such an “arbitration” not clear from the start? Why disgrace?
  26. Gorbunov Artem 23 November 2019 18: 18 New
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    The government of Ukraine, behaves correctly. The best defense is an attack. We are sitting in opera and dreaming of mercy, and we have piss in our ears ... From each iron we are great. Are we patient or patient?
  27. VB
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    When crossing the border of Russia, the enemy should have been destroyed. After which there would be nothing to discuss, but the president and the government, working on a rotational basis in Russia, licking boots to the west, will never do that. They are only allowed to pump money out of the people, and transfer them to the west.
  28. aszzz888 24 November 2019 05: 30 New
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    Ukraine is categorically against.

    This is quite expected. But if you approach from the other side, then comrade Winter is already breathing in apartments unnecessary ... but there is still no gas contract. They would have thought it unnecessary, though - it would have been something. laughing
  29. Selxozotdel 24 November 2019 09: 28 New
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    "Debriefing" with the "brothers" will be necessary, but without any Hague .. purely fraternally behind closed doors ..
    We’ll hurt, but carefully! hi
  30. Dmitry Medvedev_2 25 November 2019 18: 04 New
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    Why didn’t we drown them. pancake