90 anniversary of the conflict on the CER: what is known about those events in the Far East

These days marks 90 years since the armed conflict on the CER (Sino-Eastern Railway), which in historiography is often referred to as the Far Eastern conflict of the 1929 year. Frankly, there is still very little data published in our country about the conflict in which Soviet troops opposed the forces of the Republic of China under the command of Chiang Kai-shek.

It all began virtually after the death of the head of the anti-communist government of the Kuomintang - Sun Yat-sen. His successors, led by Chiang Kai-shek, tried to take control of the north of the country, including the CER, which at that time had been declared as an object of joint Soviet-Chinese use. The so-called Chiang Kai-shekists began to carry out frank provocations against Soviet diplomats, right up to the opening of Soviet diplomatic mail, and the invasion of Soviet diplomatic missions.

By that time, the Soviet Union considered that anti-Soviet provocations were fueled by representatives of the white movement who fled the country.

And from 1928 of the year, anti-Soviet provocations escalated into hostilities, the aim of which was to capture the CER. In December 1928, the Kuomintang flag was hoisted over the CER. A few months later, the so-called Nanjing government of China announced the severance of diplomatic relations with the Soviet Union. Everything went to a full-fledged war. In the USSR, in the summer of 1929, the FDLA (Special Far Eastern Army) was formed.

After several weeks of active fighting, the troops of the Nanking government were defeated by the soldiers of the Red Army, and the CER again returned to their former status - a joint Soviet-Chinese enterprise. Soviet troops 25 December 1929 year left Chinese territory.

Military historian Alexei Pastukhov, guest of the TacticMedia broadcast, tells about what is known about the events of the 1929 of the year in the Far East, on the CER.

Comments

[The leader of the Redskins]

By the way, the conflict is very poorly covered by our cinema. In my memory, only in the series "State Border" they mentioned him. And the topic is not overplayed. Bondarchuk or someone else could have removed an action movie, fortunately, there were enough battle scenes there.

[evgic]

Still, it’s not the most interesting episode of our history, and the reason for the conflict is that control over the railway is not the most patriotic. It is unlikely that the film will be a good one, especially since Bondarchuk Jr. He managed to fool Stalingrad. But I wouldn’t refuse a good book

[dvina71]

Quote: evgic

Still not the most interesting episode of our history

By the way, it’s very interesting ... from a military point of view .. The Red Army defeated the Manchurian group with much less forces .. using coordination of different forces and tactics that the German gloomy genius further developed into a blitzkrieg. By the way, they very closely watched the actions of the Red Army ..

[The leader of the Redskins]

Again, the first use of tanks MC1, machine gun DP. I don’t remember aviation ...

[Yarr_Arr]

In aviation - P5 reconnaissance aircraft. According to the magazine Modeler Designer, it seems

[Amurets]

Quote: Yarr_Arr

In aviation - P5 reconnaissance aircraft. According to the magazine Modeler Designer, it seems

The P-5 reconnaissance aircraft made only the first sorties in 1929. 1930 can be called the year of the onset of the P-5 era. "This year, the first thirty production units were produced. Since the development of the production of BMW-VI engines went with certain difficulties, these cars were equipped with" native "German engines." So the dates don't match. http://www.airwar.ru/enc/other1/r5.html But 14 MP-1 aircraft were in service with the CAF, and they took part in the conflict on the Chinese Eastern Railway in the composition of the 68th river hydro group. The conflict on the Chinese Eastern Railway is described in the book by Bagrov. Red Banner Amur Flotilla.

[evgic]

How is the complexity of a military operation shown in feature films? It is very difficult, even in the epics about the Second World War this was not always possible. No, the feature film does not work out, or it’s not clear what sucks. Either a documentary or books

[Edvid]

Between Harbin and Khabarovsk there was regular communication by river ships along the Amur rivers and then its deep-water tributary Sungari, on the banks of which Harbin was located. Until 17g. Russia had a powerful Amur flotilla of warships. For 1929 at the disposal of the USSR still remained a few gunboats with large-caliber artillery afloat. They played an important role in supporting artillery Soviet landing, landed in Harbin. Currently, the former full-flowing Sungari has become shallow and its channel has become partly boggy, partly dry.

[phair]

Ships run to Fuyuan. And Sungari, has become shallow. Deforestation is harmful to rivers. Soil scientists from FEB RAS told.

[Dude]

Bondarchuk or anyone else could shoot an action movie

Bondarchuk ?! Are you kidding me?! God forbid.
Oh, it’s not for nothing that they say that on the great children, nature is resting ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Bondarchuk or anyone else could have shot an action movie, fortunately, there were enough battle scenes there.

God forbid from such directors and his films. Until now, from his "Stalingrad" sick.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

By the way, the conflict is very poorly covered by our cinema.

Cinema (modern), he does not give the truth, though not a profitable business. And little has been written about this war; nothing can be said at all. The truth was known to those people who lived on the border with Manchuria. The chinaways not one day climbed to the points of the CER, but already before that they violated the border, until they created the ODE. And so the people themselves defended their villages and trips. A local militia was defending in Zabaikalsk, thank God that there were enough weapons. But no one asked our old people how everything was in reality.

[Ros 56]

Do not touch Fedka, let him take off fiction. He even managed to make science fiction from Stalingrad.

[Deathmaker]

It is strange that the bloody Mordor did not attach the captured territories.

[Ros 56]

You forgot to ask, without the snotty sun shines.

[knn54]

That Sun Yatsen, that Chiang Kai-shek, that Mao and subsequent leaders were nationalists. Communist ideas implied internationalism, which the leaders of China did not have. The USSR was ALWAYS considered, alas, as a "cash cow".

[Stas157]

As a result of the defeat of the Chinese troops, 8500 prisoners were captured.

. Chinese prisoners of war were well treated and well fed, and campaigning and outreach was carried out with them. ... slogans in Chinese “We and the Red Army are brothers!” were posted A wall newspaper called The Red Chinese Soldier appeared in the camp. Two days later, 27 Chinese prisoners of war filed applications for joining the Komsomol, and 1240 people applied to leave them in the USSR.

This is what an idea can do to the masses and what is the power of propaganda. This can happen if armed with a good idea about a good life. Which, however, is not now.

[AU Ivanov.]

What is the idea for the demon? Soviet poverty of those years looked much preferable to Chinese. As it is now: DPRK citizens working in Russia are trying by hook or by crook to stay with us.

[Fevralsk. Morev]

Unfortunately, a film on the conflict on the Chinese Eastern Railway was not made in the USSR. I also don’t remember that there would have been a film about Khalkhin Gol, the Spanish and Finnish wars. In the land of the Soviets filmed masterpieces like "The Irony of Fate", "The Chairman", "Big Change". In general, positive. The people's memory was enough. And now there is no need to strain eminent creators like Bondarchuk, Mikhalkov and the like. Those who foul the history of our country. They don't create masterpieces, they want an Oscar.

[your1970]

Quote: Fevralsk. Morev

I also don’t remember what would be a film about Khalkhin Gol, the Spanish and Finnish wars

In the days of the USSR, these were quite slippery topics, all three of which, which is why they didn’t take off ......