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Kurdish troops call their actions in northern Syria "Resistance to Dignity"

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Kurdish armed forces continue fighting in northern Syria. At the same time, they suffer losses.


The day before, a farewell ceremony was held in Tell Khamis County with three representatives of one of the armed groups, which is part of the so-called Syrian Democratic Forces. During the farewell ceremony, which took place in the small village of Harnubi al-Haso, it was stated that these people had died in the struggle against the Turkish invaders. The circumstances of the battle are not reported at the moment, but the call signs of these people are reported: Shirvan, Dilo and Jodee Rojava. It is known that they died in the area of ​​the city of Kobani.

Noteworthy is what the commanders of the Kurdish armed groups call the ongoing fighting in northern Syria. The name used by the Syrian Kurdish troops is: "Resistance to dignity." "Revolution of dignity" in Ukraine, "resistance of dignity" in Syria. One gets the impression that these conventions of famous events may have one author.

Meanwhile, in Turkey they do not hide their indignation at the fact that the United States continues to interact with Kurdish armed groups. The reference goes to the statement of US Special Representative for Syria James Jeffrey. According to him, the United States will help the SDS (Syrian Democratic Forces) exercise joint control over oil fields in northeast Syria.

Jeffrey:

All this is part of our strategy in the region. I believe that this is legal. Our military will remain at key facilities (oil production) in Syria and will interact with the SDS, which is a consistent mission to counter the ISIS terrorist group (banned in the Russian Federation).

After that, James Jeffrey said that now in Syria the most turbulent situation in the province of Idlib.

Jeffrey:

There you need to seek a ceasefire.
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  1. rocket757
    rocket757 23 November 2019 06: 19 New
    +3
    With the Kurds, it’s clear that they have old dreams / Wishlist ... it’s only very likely that they were “marred and abandoned,” but they keep them on a planer and poison them where minke whales need to be!
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 23 November 2019 06: 23 New
      +2
      Meanwhile, in Turkey they do not hide their indignation at the fact that the United States continues to interact with Kurdish armed groups.

      In Russia, they are also outraged by the illegal presence of the United States in Syria. In Syria, Assad is also outraged by the US illegal presence in Syria. US illegal presence contrary to international law ...
      SO SHOULD DO ANYTHING !!!
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 23 November 2019 06: 33 New
        -1
        How can a weed or other infection be removed?
        Going around, burning everything radically, even if you survive, then with real losses .... you need to do something, but better without extreme.
        1. KCA
          KCA 23 November 2019 06: 50 New
          +5
          Yes, it is necessary to destroy the entire oil-producing infrastructure, why pity it, feed the Americans, Syria does not get anything from these industries, and if they manage to drive them all away, the Americans will surely tear everything apart, so why waste time if in any situation will have to restore production from scratch
        2. hrych
          hrych 23 November 2019 12: 00 New
          +1
          Quote: rocket757
          have cast and thrown

          It must be said ...
          Quote: rocket757
          but better without extreme

          Exposure and again exposure.
          And the Kurds are so direct "with dignity", they have funeral processions, they carry three coffins of the fallen, and the crowds are ten thousand, all right there are women and children, but the men are face-to-face. Why not at the front? Here they have women's units and are proud ... What? This is the shame of Kurdish men. 40 million of them, but how many are fighting ... Give them the country, no guys, the state must be conquered, and also constantly uphold. I was impressed with the shots from Afrin, the green scum picks up a small tractor from a Kurdish farmer, he tries not to give it back, they with a smile ... shot him. Shock, indignation, but then, we turn on the analysis ... Why are you the same person and the landlord, did not meet the enemy in your land with weapons? Why didn’t you load your wife with children onto your tractor and go into evacuation? Why didn’t you die for faith, for the people, for the family, and ... for the tractor?
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 23 November 2019 13: 19 New
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            Quote: hrych
            This is the shame of Kurdish men. 40 million of them, but how many are fighting ..

            Kurds are scattered across territories and countries ... how many of them are known approximately.
            There is no single friendly family there, as in other places ...
            Most importantly, there is NO place for the Kursk state!
            Not interested in allowing anyone there.
            And then ... yes there is no clear, feasible but no one plan.
      2. iConst
        iConst 23 November 2019 10: 49 New
        +1
        Quote: ROSS 42
        US illegal presence contrary to international law ...

        And Vaska listens, but eats ...
        For a long time there has been a deliberate discrediting of this very international law. Moreover, in the range from terrorism to trade - from the latter: the "custom-made" case under МН-17, the decision of the Stockholm gas arbitration with reservations not related to the terms of the contract.
        You can continue starting with the annexation of the GDR (we won’t touch the “backyard” - you’ll get tired of listing it) —and this is so — at that time the GDR was a sovereign country and residents were not asked.
        Then there was Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya .... it’s only for a grain.
        But it’s possible for the West - laws are only for limitrophs.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 23 November 2019 11: 53 New
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          Quote: iConst
          Then there was Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya .... it’s only for a grain.
          But it’s possible for the West - laws are only for limitrophs.

          And like a carbon copy, or from someone else’s words “Revolution of dignity”, “Resistance of dignity” and from these virtues the donkey’s ears covered with Sam’s hat stick out.
          1. iConst
            iConst 23 November 2019 12: 08 New
            +1
            Quote: tihonmarine
            And like a carbon copy, or from other people's words "Revolution of dignity", "Resistance of dignity"

            So the manual of "color" revolutions works. It is on emotions and the abstract "for all good and good." For the "best of life."
            Puppeteers put their "leaders" backed by mass protests, and then these masses are poured into the ears that they are "on the way" and you only need to be patient. And so on until the next "worthiness."
    2. askort154
      askort154 23 November 2019 07: 22 New
      -2
      During the farewell ceremony, which took place in the small village of Harnubi al-Haso, it was stated that these people had died in the struggle against the Turkish invaders.

      While the Turks supported the SDS, there were friends. And now, when they act in concert with Russia and Syria, they have become "invaders."
      And who are your Americans? Liberators?
      Even the Americans already realized that Assad was too tough for them, so the SDS clung to you to stay in the oil zone. yes
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 23 November 2019 11: 57 New
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        Quote: askort154
        And who are your Americans? Liberators?

        Are Americans considered occupiers? Even the indigenous population of the "Indians" they also freed, but did not occupy.
  2. andrewkor
    andrewkor 23 November 2019 06: 21 New
    +3
    These "fat ladies" are doomed to defeat, no matter how hard they try to grind .. finally. The only way out is to go under the wing of Assad (Russia), and we'll see!
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 23 November 2019 06: 24 New
      +2
      go under the wing of Assad (Russia), but we'll see!

      Whoever pays for the music is the one who dances the girl ... the Kurds ended up in the role of that very girl ... the old boyfriend left her and the new one hasn’t appeared yet ... they still haven’t agreed on money.
      1. Aerodrome
        Aerodrome 23 November 2019 06: 33 New
        +1
        Kurdish troops call their actions in northern Syria Resistance to Dignity
        "resistance to manhood"? or what? about the "revolution of dignity" already heard ... now, resistance ... Thriller!
        1. Polite Moose
          Polite Moose 23 November 2019 09: 38 New
          +1
          Quote: Aerodrome
          "resistance to manhood"? or what?

          Resistance to "manhood", which is getting closer and closer.
  3. Polymer
    Polymer 23 November 2019 06: 55 New
    +1
    "Revolution of dignity" in Ukraine, "resistance of dignity" in Syria. One gets the impression that these conventions of famous events may have one author.

    And this author, consciously or not, noticed something in common in both. At a minimum, this lack of unity and the readiness of the elites to trade in their sovereignty.
    1. yustas
      yustas 23 November 2019 09: 06 New
      +2
      I agree with you, it’s not clear, just for what, you slammed a minus
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  5. Politruk-m
    Politruk-m 23 November 2019 07: 48 New
    +3
    Resistance to Dignity

    You sold your dignity to the United States with Israel .. But you could have been autonomous if you had originally gone with Russia and Assad .. And now, deal with the Turks .. crying
  6. aszzz888
    aszzz888 23 November 2019 07: 59 New
    +1
    Kurdish troops call their actions in northern Syria "Resistance to dignity"

    aha, already somewhere heard such ... laughing ... dignity revolution, etc. The training manual is one. bully
  7. Thrifty
    Thrifty 23 November 2019 08: 14 New
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    And why not bring these all Kurds to Texas? There they would have created a Kurdish state, would have bombed the oil fields together. ....
  8. bbtcs
    bbtcs 23 November 2019 08: 24 New
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    Russians have sovereign Russia, Kurds have sovereign Kurdistan.
    Fight for themselves? Well done!
    1. yustas
      yustas 23 November 2019 09: 12 New
      +1
      They are not fighting for themselves, but fighting for oil, from one time they let them into Syria and offered citizenship, someone took it, someone didn’t, and now they want to take the land of this state to themselves, and even the one on which they are in their most did not live. You do not compare them with us, based on history, we have the right to completely take out the entire Baltic States, almost all of Belarus, almost all of Ukraine, and the same is true for trifles from southeastern states. This is based on the territories of Russia, before the communists, who divided a single country, into republics. In general, this is a debatable issue, but it can not be compared with the events in Syria.
      1. bbtcs
        bbtcs 23 November 2019 09: 34 New
        -1
        The united country was divided into republics not by communists, but ethnogenesis. And there was no single country before the conquest. Since what year is "ours" Kazan?
        Quote: yustas
        In general, this is a debatable issue, but it can not be compared with the events in Syria.

        Events in Syria are typical imperialism. And not only from the Americans (American chiefs and soldiers) or Russians (Russian chiefs and their soldiers) or Turks, but also from the Arabs. Since what year is Syria Arab? What the hell did they get in there?
        Before that, the truth was Byzantine, but I like it somehow more wink
        Quote: yustas
        Syria allowed and offered citizenship

        So the Finnish-Ugrians let Russians (Slavs) into Moscow laughing
        In short, everyone is good, but you have to be honest about that.
    2. raki-uzo
      raki-uzo 23 November 2019 10: 30 New
      0
      Not a good example! In each country, including Russia, different peoples live, ethnicity, fewer and so on. The geographical name does not give the right to create a separate state there.
    3. Marconi41
      Marconi41 23 November 2019 10: 44 New
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      Quote: bbtcs
      Russians have sovereign Russia, Kurds have sovereign Kurdistan.
      Fight for themselves? Well done!

      The Russians have more than one hundred years in the country, and the Kurds only have dreams. You cannot compare us with them. And the Kurdish war will lead to defeat.
  9. yustas
    yustas 23 November 2019 09: 03 New
    +1
    I believe that this is legal. Our military will remain at key facilities (oil production) in Syria and will interact with the SDS, which is a consistent mission to counter the ISIS terrorist group (banned in the Russian Federation).
    a good position, and I believe that in support of terrorism and its spread, the United States should stop cooperating with everyone who respects themselves and their independence.
  10. bbtcs
    bbtcs 23 November 2019 12: 57 New
    +1
    Quote: raki-uzo
    The geographical name does not give the right to create a separate state there.

    And Syria, is this not a geographical name? What they separated from the Caliphate, Byzantium, the Ottomans, the Roman Empire, etc.? And the Russians separated from the Golden Horde. And also from the Khazar Kaganate. laughing
  11. bbtcs
    bbtcs 23 November 2019 13: 07 New
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    Quote: Marconi41
    The Russians have more than one hundred years in the country, and the Kurds only have dreams. You cannot compare us with them. And the Kurdish war will lead to defeat.

    The war of Fomin in the Brest Fortress led to defeat. And he was killed and his people. So what? Has the war ceased to be fair?
    One has to be honest and admit that the Kurds want the same thing as everyone: so that there are no strangers nearby. And it does not matter who they are by nationality.
    Once again, be honest and imagine Kurdish patrols on the streets of your city.
    And I understand that imperialism is inevitable. But this does not mean that he must be justified and admired.
  12. Roller Coaster1863
    Roller Coaster1863 23 November 2019 13: 30 New
    0
    Good luck to the Kurds in creating their own state.
  13. Azad
    Azad 23 November 2019 15: 48 New
    +1
    Well. It will hurt. For them, this is also the Resistance of Dignity. Assyrians, Arabs.



    And further. Ain Issa. November 23rd. CAA with us. https://youtu.be/0EFRgp40JGU
    PS Dear ... Request. No need to write about what you do not understand and do not know. Thank.
  14. Disorder
    Disorder 23 November 2019 16: 38 New
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    Quote: bbtcs
    Russians have sovereign Russia, Kurds have sovereign Kurdistan.
    Fight for themselves? Well done!

    Yes, there is no Kurdistan ... and there wasn’t. There is a territory of settlement of certain tribes, united by the name "Kurds". Yes, and they are fighting ... Syria huned over large territories where they had never lived, and in Iraq, in general, Kurds and Kurds fought for control over the ways of oil transportation.
    1. Azad
      Azad 24 November 2019 05: 27 New
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      They asked you for good. Do not write about what you do not know and what you do not understand. Now tell us more about the tribes. Who and what is it? You know?
      and in Iraq, in general, Kurds and Kurds fought for control of oil transportation routes.

      Also in more detail.
      By the way. If I call you a clown, you won’t be offended?
      1. Disorder
        Disorder 24 November 2019 17: 47 New
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        There are laws of historical development from the union of clan-tribal groups to the formation of the state. The Kurds could not reach the creation of the state. There were a number of attempts to create, both inside and out, but all of them were unsuccessful. So now the Kurds are a people without a state. The maximum that they have is separate autonomous entities. Moreover, in the light of modern realities, the differences within the Kurds are not so much ethnic as political and economic in nature, which was clearly manifested during the civil war in Iraqi Kurdistan.
        If you are not aware of the civil war in Iraqi Kurdistan, you have to enlighten.
        In the early 90s of the last century, Iraqi Kurdistan de facto gained independence, the Iraqi government was forced to withdraw its troops and government institutions. Power in Iraqi Kurdistan was divided between the Kurdish Democratic Party (KDP) Massoud Barzani and the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) Jalal Talabani.
        After the withdrawal by the Iraqi government, an economic blockade of Iraqi Kurdistan was imposed, which was imposed on the international embargo imposed against Iraq. Against this background, a power struggle broke out between the KDP and the PUK, resulting in a civil war.
        1. Azad
          Azad 24 November 2019 18: 11 New
          +1
          What about you? The process of the formation of Kurdish statehood was stalled by the civil war between the KDP and the PUK, which began in the summer of 1994. The PUK made economic claims, accusing the KDP of discriminating against the Suleymaniy region it controlled (in particular, it was alleged that the KDP turned to its advantage the fees from a customs office in Zahu on the Turkish border - at that time the main source of financial revenues to the education budget). According to opponents of the PUK, these claims began to be put forward only in hindsight, while the real background of the war was Talabani's hope of an unexpected coup to seize power throughout Kurdistan. So cho for the tribes?
          1. Disorder
            Disorder 24 November 2019 20: 42 New
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            Quote: Azad
            The process of the formation of Kurdish statehood was stalled by the civil war between the KDP and the PUK, which began in the summer of 1994. The PUK made economic claims, accusing the KDP of discriminating against the Suleymaniy region it controlled (in particular, it was alleged that the KDP turned to its advantage the fees from a customs office in Zahu on the Turkish border - at that time the main source of financial revenues to the education budget). According to opponents of the PUK, these claims began to be put forward only in hindsight, while the real background of the war was Talabani's hope of an unexpected coup to seize power throughout Kurdistan.

            And here is a quote from Wiki:
            Quote: Wikipedia
            The process of the formation of Kurdish statehood was stalled by the civil war between the KDP and the PUK, which began in the summer of 1994. The PUK made economic claims, accusing the KDP of discriminating against the Suleymaniy region it controlled (in particular, it was alleged that the KDP turned to its advantage the fees from a customs office in Zahu on the Turkish border - at that time the main source of financial revenues to the education budget). According to opponents of the PUK, these claims began to be put forward only in hindsight, while the real background of the war was Talabani's hope of an unexpected coup to seize power throughout Kurdistan.

            Find at least one difference. laughing
            Quote: Azad
            So cho for the tribes?

            Follow your example and copy-paste from Wikipedia
            Quote: Wikipedia
            Kurds are a combination of numerous and often diverse tribes, called after their eponyms [27]. Tribal affiliation is still very important in social relations in traditional Kurdish society [17].

            A XNUMXth-century Kurdish Persian-speaking historian Sharaf Khan Bidlisi wrote that Kurds are divided into four peoples: Kurmanji, Lura, Kelkhuri and Gorani. Of these, the Luros, speaking the southwestern Iranian dialects, are now usually not included in the composition of the Kurds. Kelkhuri (together with varnishes and feyli) make up a strongly differentiated South Kurdish community, combining with gorani and merging with lurais in the south. The southern Kurds are inhabited by the Iranian ostans of Kermanshah and Ilam, as well as the surrounding areas in eastern Iraq.

            Kurmanji - The main tribal self-name of most of the rest - the central and northern Kurds, including the Zaza Kurds. In fact, it is similar to the term “Kurd” in its old meaning and designates a carrier of a certain socio-economic structure, based on distant mountain cattle breeding [17]. However, in the scientific literature, the term “Kurmanji” usually refers only to northern Kurds, for the “central” Kurds (Kurdman Kurdmancî Xwarû “southern Kurmanji”) inhabiting the areas of Iraqi Sulaymaniyah and Iranian Kurdistan with adjacent areas, the Persian name was attached to sorani.

            From a linguistic point of view, all languages ​​/ dialects that are now called “Kurdish” can be divided into the following groups:

            Kurdish languages:
            - Kurmanji
            Sorani (Southern Kurmanji),
            South Kurdish (Kelkhuri, feyli, varnishes);
            - Delemite languages:
            gorani and avromani,
            zazaki.
            Despite the fact that in everyday use and in scientific literature, we often talk about the “Kurdish language” and its dialects, mutual understanding is already very difficult between speakers of Kurmanji and Sorani, the closest Kurdish languages. Most Kurds are bilingual and speak the main language of the state of residence: Turkish, Arabic, Persian and others.
            1. Azad
              Azad 25 November 2019 05: 35 New
              +1
              Given that Zazaki is not Kurdish.
              1. Disorder
                Disorder 25 November 2019 13: 10 New
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                What kind of Kurds will you be yourself?