Kurdish troops call their actions in northern Syria "Resistance to Dignity"

Kurdish armed forces continue fighting in northern Syria. At the same time, they suffer losses.

The day before, a farewell ceremony was held in Tell Khamis County with three representatives of one of the armed groups, which is part of the so-called Syrian Democratic Forces. During the farewell ceremony, which took place in the small village of Harnubi al-Haso, it was stated that these people had died in the struggle against the Turkish invaders. The circumstances of the battle are not reported at the moment, but the call signs of these people are reported: Shirvan, Dilo and Jodee Rojava. It is known that they died in the area of ​​the city of Kobani.

Noteworthy is what the commanders of the Kurdish armed groups call the ongoing fighting in northern Syria. The name used by the Syrian Kurdish troops is: "Resistance to dignity." "Revolution of dignity" in Ukraine, "resistance of dignity" in Syria. One gets the impression that these conventions of famous events may have one author.

Meanwhile, in Turkey they do not hide their indignation at the fact that the United States continues to interact with Kurdish armed groups. The reference goes to the statement of US Special Representative for Syria James Jeffrey. According to him, the United States will help the SDS (Syrian Democratic Forces) exercise joint control over oil fields in northeast Syria.

Jeffrey:

All this is part of our strategy in the region. I believe that this is legal. Our military will remain at key facilities (oil production) in Syria and will interact with the SDS, which is a consistent mission to counter the ISIS terrorist group (banned in the Russian Federation).

After that, James Jeffrey said that now in Syria the most turbulent situation in the province of Idlib.

Jeffrey:

There you need to seek a ceasefire.

Comments

[rocket757]

It is clear with the Kurds, they have old dreams / wishlist ... only it looks very much like they were "dumped and thrown", but they are kept on a stalker and pushed where the whales need to!

[Ross xnumx]

Meanwhile, in Turkey they do not hide their indignation at the fact that the United States continues to interact with Kurdish armed groups.

In Russia, they are also outraged by the illegal presence of the United States in Syria. In Syria, Assad is also outraged by the US illegal presence in Syria. US illegal presence contrary to international law ...
SO SHOULD DO ANYTHING !!!

[rocket757]

How can a weed or other infection be removed?
Going around, burning everything radically, even if you survive, then with real losses .... you need to do something, but better without extreme.

[KCA]

Yes, it is necessary to destroy the entire oil-producing infrastructure, why pity it, feed the Americans, Syria does not get anything from these industries, and if they manage to drive them all away, the Americans will surely tear everything apart, so why waste time if in any situation will have to restore production from scratch

[hrych]

Quote: rocket757

have cast and thrown

It must be said ...

Quote: rocket757

but better without extreme

Exposure and again exposure.
And the Kurds are so straightforward "with dignity", they have funeral processions, carry three coffins of the fallen, and crowds of ten thousand, okay there are women and children, but muffled men are coming. Why not at the front? They have women's divisions and are proud of ... What? This is the disgrace of Kurdish men. 40 million of them, and how many are fighting ... Give them the country, no guys, the state must be conquered, and so also constantly defend. I was impressed by the shots from Afrin, the green vermin takes a small tractor from a Kurdish farmer, he tries not to give it away, they shot him with a smile ... they shot him. Shock, indignation, but after that, we turn on the analysis ... Why are you a single person and owner, did not meet the enemy on your land with weapons? Why didn't you load your wife and children onto your tractor and leave for evacuation? Why didn't you go to death for your faith, for the people, for your family, but ... for a tractor?

[rocket757]

Quote: hrych

This is the shame of Kurdish men. 40 million of them, but how many are fighting ..

Kurds are scattered across territories and countries ... how many of them are known approximately.
There is no single friendly family there, as in other places ...
Most importantly, there is NO place for the Kursk state!
Not interested in allowing anyone there.
And then ... yes there is no clear, feasible but no one plan.

[iConst]

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US illegal presence contrary to international law ...

And Vaska listens, but eats ...
For a long time there has been a purposeful discrediting of this very international law. Moreover, in the range from terrorism to trade - one of the last: the "custom" case on MN-17, the decision of the Stockholm Arbitration on gas with reservations that have nothing to do with the terms of the contract.
You can continue starting with the annexation of the GDR (we will not touch the "back yard" - you will get tired of listing) - and this is exactly so - at that time the GDR was a sovereign country and the residents were not asked.
Then there was Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya .... it’s only for a grain.
But it’s possible for the West - laws are only for limitrophs.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: iConst

Then there was Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya .... it’s only for a grain.
But it’s possible for the West - laws are only for limitrophs.

And like a blueprint, or hearsay, "Revolution of Dignity", "Resistance of Dignity" and from these advantages donkey ears covered with Sam's hat stick out.

[iConst]

Quote: tihonmarine

And as a carbon copy, or hearsay "Revolution of Dignity", "Resistance of Dignity"

This is how the manual of "color" revolutions works. It is on emotions and abstract "for all good and good." For "better life".
Puppeteers put their "leaders" backed by mass protests, and then these masses are furious in their ears that they are "on the way" and they only need to be patient. And so on until the next "worthiness".

[askort154]

During the farewell ceremony, which took place in the small village of Harnubi al-Haso, it was stated that these people had died in the struggle against the Turkish invaders.

While the Turks supported the SDS, there were friends. And now, when they act in concert with Russia and Syria, they have become "occupiers."
And who are your Americans? Liberators?
Even the Americans already realized that Assad was too tough for them, so the SDS clung to you to stay in the oil zone.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: askort154

And who are your Americans? Liberators?

Are the Americans listed as occupiers? Even the indigenous population of the "Indians" they also liberated, but did not occupy.

[andrewkor]

These "fat women" are doomed to defeat, no matter how hard they try to nag..dit in the end. The only way out is to go under the wing of Assad (Russia), and then we'll see!

[Same lech]

go under the wing of Assad (Russia), but we'll see!

Whoever pays for the music is the one who dances the girl ... the Kurds ended up in the role of that very girl ... the old boyfriend left her and the new one hasn’t appeared yet ... they still haven’t agreed on money.

[Aerodrome]

Kurdish troops call their actions in northern Syria "Resisting dignity"

"resistance to manhood"? or what? I've already heard about the "revolution of dignity" ... now, resistance ... Thriller!

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Aerodrome

"resistance to manhood"? or what?

Resistance to "manhood" that is getting closer and closer.

[Polymer]

"Revolution of Dignity" in Ukraine, "Dignity Resistance" in Syria. It seems that these conventions of well-known events may have one author.

And this author, consciously or not, noticed something in common in both. At a minimum, this lack of unity and the readiness of the elites to trade in their sovereignty.

[yustas]

I agree with you, it’s not clear, just for what, you slammed a minus

[Politruk-m]

"Resisting dignity"

You sold your dignity to the United States with Israel .. But you could have been autonomous if you had originally gone with Russia and Assad .. And now, deal with the Turks ..

[aszzz888]

Kurdish troops call their actions in northern Syria "Resisting dignity"

aha, already somewhere heard such ... ... dignity revolution, etc. The training manual is one.

[Thrifty]

And why not bring these all Kurds to Texas? There they would have created a Kurdish state, would have bombed the oil fields together. ....

[bbtcs]

Russians have sovereign Russia, Kurds have sovereign Kurdistan.
Fight for themselves? Well done!

[yustas]

They are not fighting for themselves, but fighting for oil, from one time they let them into Syria and offered citizenship, someone took it, someone didn’t, and now they want to take the land of this state to themselves, and even the one on which they are in their most did not live. You do not compare them with us, based on history, we have the right to completely take out the entire Baltic States, almost all of Belarus, almost all of Ukraine, and the same is true for trifles from southeastern states. This is based on the territories of Russia, before the communists, who divided a single country, into republics. In general, this is a debatable issue, but it can not be compared with the events in Syria.

[bbtcs]

The united country was divided into republics not by the communists, but by ethnogenesis. And there was no single country before the conquest. Kazan from what year is "our"?

Quote: yustas

In general, this is a debatable issue, but it can not be compared with the events in Syria.

Events in Syria are typical imperialism. And not only from the Americans (American chiefs and soldiers) or Russians (Russian chiefs and their soldiers) or Turks, but also from the Arabs. Since what year is Syria Arab? What the hell did they get in there?
Before that, the truth was Byzantine, but I like it somehow more

Quote: yustas

Syria allowed and offered citizenship

So the Finnish-Ugrians let Russians (Slavs) into Moscow
In short, everyone is good, but you have to be honest about that.

[raki-uzo]

Not a good example! In each country, including Russia, different peoples live, ethnicity, fewer and so on. The geographical name does not give the right to create a separate state there.

[Marconi41]

Quote: bbtcs

Russians have sovereign Russia, Kurds have sovereign Kurdistan.
Fight for themselves? Well done!

The Russians have more than one hundred years in the country, and the Kurds only have dreams. You cannot compare us with them. And the Kurdish war will lead to defeat.

[yustas]

I believe that this is legal. Our military will remain at key facilities (oil production) in Syria and will interact with the SDS, which is a consistent mission to counter the ISIS terrorist group (banned in the Russian Federation).

a good position, and I believe that in support of terrorism and its spread, the United States should stop cooperating with everyone who respects themselves and their independence.

[bbtcs]

Quote: raki-uzo

The geographical name does not give the right to create a separate state there.

And Syria, is this not a geographical name? What they separated from the Caliphate, Byzantium, the Ottomans, the Roman Empire, etc.? And the Russians separated from the Golden Horde. And also from the Khazar Kaganate.

[bbtcs]

Quote: Marconi41

The Russians have more than one hundred years in the country, and the Kurds only have dreams. You cannot compare us with them. And the Kurdish war will lead to defeat.

The war of Fomin in the Brest Fortress led to defeat. And he was killed and his people. So what? Has the war ceased to be fair?
One has to be honest and admit that the Kurds want the same thing as everyone: so that there are no strangers nearby. And it does not matter who they are by nationality.
Once again, be honest and imagine Kurdish patrols on the streets of your city.
And I understand that imperialism is inevitable. But this does not mean that he must be justified and admired.

[Roller Coaster1863]

Good luck to the Kurds in creating their own state.

[Azad]

Well. It will hurt. For them, this is also the Resistance of Dignity. Assyrians, Arabs.

And further. Ain Issa. November 23rd. CAA with us. https://youtu.be/0EFRgp40JGU
PS Dear ... Request. No need to write about what you do not understand and do not know. Thank.

[Disorder]

Quote: bbtcs

Russians have sovereign Russia, Kurds have sovereign Kurdistan.
Fight for themselves? Well done!

Yes, there is no Kurdistan ... and there was not. There is a territory of settlement of certain tribes, united by the name "Kurds". Yes, and they are fighting ... Syria, on the sly, seized large territories where they never lived, and in Iraq, in general, Kurds fought with Kurds for control over oil transportation routes.

[Azad]

They asked you for good. Do not write about what you do not know and what you do not understand. Now tell us more about the tribes. Who and what is it? You know?
and in Iraq, in general, Kurds and Kurds fought for control of oil transportation routes.

Also in more detail.
By the way. If I call you a clown, you won’t be offended?

[Disorder]

There are laws of historical development from the union of clan-tribal groups to the formation of the state. The Kurds could not reach the creation of the state. There were a number of attempts to create, both inside and out, but all of them were unsuccessful. So now the Kurds are a people without a state. The maximum that they have is separate autonomous entities. Moreover, in the light of modern realities, the differences within the Kurds are not so much ethnic as political and economic in nature, which was clearly manifested during the civil war in Iraqi Kurdistan.
If you are not aware of the civil war in Iraqi Kurdistan, you have to enlighten.
In the early 90s of the last century, Iraqi Kurdistan de facto gained independence, the Iraqi government was forced to withdraw its troops and government institutions. Power in Iraqi Kurdistan was divided between the Kurdish Democratic Party (KDP) Massoud Barzani and the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) Jalal Talabani.
After the withdrawal by the Iraqi government, an economic blockade of Iraqi Kurdistan was imposed, which was imposed on the international embargo imposed against Iraq. Against this background, a power struggle broke out between the KDP and the PUK, resulting in a civil war.

[Azad]

What about you? The process of the formation of Kurdish statehood was stalled by the civil war between the KDP and the PUK, which began in the summer of 1994. The PUK made economic claims, accusing the KDP of discriminating against the Suleymaniy region it controlled (in particular, it was alleged that the KDP turned to its advantage the fees from a customs office in Zahu on the Turkish border - at that time the main source of financial revenues to the education budget). According to opponents of the PUK, these claims began to be put forward only in hindsight, while the real background of the war was Talabani's hope of an unexpected coup to seize power throughout Kurdistan. So cho for the tribes?

[Disorder]

Quote: Azad

The process of the formation of Kurdish statehood was stalled by the civil war between the KDP and the PUK, which began in the summer of 1994. The PUK made economic claims, accusing the KDP of discriminating against the Suleymaniy region it controlled (in particular, it was alleged that the KDP turned to its advantage the fees from a customs office in Zahu on the Turkish border - at that time the main source of financial revenues to the education budget). According to opponents of the PUK, these claims began to be put forward only in hindsight, while the real background of the war was Talabani's hope of an unexpected coup to seize power throughout Kurdistan.

And here is a quote from Wiki:

Quote: Wikipedia

The process of the formation of Kurdish statehood was stalled by the civil war between the KDP and the PUK, which began in the summer of 1994. The PUK made economic claims, accusing the KDP of discriminating against the Suleymaniy region it controlled (in particular, it was alleged that the KDP turned to its advantage the fees from a customs office in Zahu on the Turkish border - at that time the main source of financial revenues to the education budget). According to opponents of the PUK, these claims began to be put forward only in hindsight, while the real background of the war was Talabani's hope of an unexpected coup to seize power throughout Kurdistan.

Find at least one difference.

Quote: Azad

So cho for the tribes?

Follow your example and copy-paste from Wikipedia

Quote: Wikipedia

Kurds are a combination of numerous and often diverse tribes, called after their eponyms [27]. Tribal affiliation is still very important in social relations in traditional Kurdish society [17].

A XNUMXth-century Kurdish Persian-speaking historian Sharaf Khan Bidlisi wrote that Kurds are divided into four peoples: Kurmanji, Lura, Kelkhuri and Gorani. Of these, the Luros, speaking the southwestern Iranian dialects, are now usually not included in the composition of the Kurds. Kelkhuri (together with varnishes and feyli) make up a strongly differentiated South Kurdish community, combining with gorani and merging with lurais in the south. The southern Kurds are inhabited by the Iranian ostans of Kermanshah and Ilam, as well as the surrounding areas in eastern Iraq.

Kurmanji - The main tribal self-name of most of the rest - the central and northern Kurds, including the Zaza Kurds. In fact, it is similar to the term “Kurd” in its old meaning and designates a carrier of a certain socio-economic structure, based on distant mountain cattle breeding [17]. However, in the scientific literature, the term “Kurmanji” usually refers only to northern Kurds, for the “central” Kurds (Kurdman Kurdmancî Xwarû “southern Kurmanji”) inhabiting the areas of Iraqi Sulaymaniyah and Iranian Kurdistan with adjacent areas, the Persian name was attached to sorani.

From a linguistic point of view, all languages ​​/ dialects that are now called “Kurdish” can be divided into the following groups:

Kurdish languages:
- Kurmanji
Sorani (Southern Kurmanji),
South Kurdish (Kelkhuri, feyli, varnishes);
- Delemite languages:
gorani and avromani,
zazaki.
Despite the fact that in everyday use and in scientific literature, we often talk about the “Kurdish language” and its dialects, mutual understanding is already very difficult between speakers of Kurmanji and Sorani, the closest Kurdish languages. Most Kurds are bilingual and speak the main language of the state of residence: Turkish, Arabic, Persian and others.

[Azad]

Given that Zazaki is not Kurdish.

[Disorder]

What kind of Kurds will you be yourself?