Turkey intends to combine the Russian S-400 air defense system and the American F-35

The Turkish Ministry of Defense is working on the issue of interaction between the Russian S-400 air defense systems and the fifth-generation American fighter F-35. This was stated by Minister of Defense Hulusi Akar.

According to Akar, Turkey intends to solve the issue of compatibility of the Russian anti-aircraft system and the fifth-generation American fighter; work in this direction is already underway. If nothing works, then Ankara still does not intend to abandon the Russian anti-aircraft system in favor of the American F-35.

We are working on the compatibility issue of F-35 and C-400. I hope these efforts will bring a positive result. Ankara will not abandon one in favor of the other. If even Russian systems cannot work in parallel with F-35, we will find the most convenient action formula

- he said.

Currently, the country's defense minister explained, Turkey continues to deploy S-400 air defense systems on its territory, while Turkish specialists are being trained in Russian training centers. Ankara in no way intends to revise the contract with Russia on C-400.

These complexes will take up combat duty. Everything is going according to plan. Let no one doubt it

- said Akar.

Earlier, the US demanded that Turkey get rid of the Russian S-400 air defense system “by any means,” threatening once again with sanctions.

Comments

[plague_veliky]

We are working on the issue of compatibility of F-35 and S-400. - naturally with the participation of Russian specialists))

[Herman 4223]

The USA is shaking from this thought. Who will let them combine something? Didn’t they understand that they can choose only one thing?

[Vita vko]

Quote: Herman 4223

Who will let them combine something?

There are no technical problems there. All this is done even in military conditions, even Russian specialists are not needed. Moreover, the Turkish F-35s are being installed with communication and identification systems of their own, Turkish design. The whole scandal is due to the fact that Israeli and American F-35s will be denied access to the S-400 zones. If Turkey wants to develop its own nuclear program on the basis of the Russian nuclear power plant Akkuyu, then Israel will jump out of its pants.

[Herman 4223]

Yes, technical problems may not exist, only who will give them the planes?

[Altai72]

Already given, in June 4 cars were handed over.

[sp77ark]

They were driven to a base in Arizona, where Turkish pilots began flying in August. But after the decision to purchase the S-400, the flight to Turkey was canceled and the pilots were politely asked to leave home. Money back.

[Herman 4223]

They stayed in the USA.

[sp77ark]

And what, they delivered the export S-400 with an identification system?
And F-16s have already integrated theirs, are there only F-35s left?
How many are there to integrate :-)
And yes, what is there to integrate? I pulled out one block, inserted another. If not suitable - with a rasp or chisel (Russian method).

[Aibolit]

Quote: Vita VKO

Moreover, on the Turkish F-35, communication and recognition systems of their own Turkish design are installed.

You are confused with the Israeli.
Alp Aviation: fan rotors and rear fan hub for F135, as well as APU components
AYESAS: PANORAMIC COCKPIT DISPLAY (PCD) and as a subcontractor for L-3 Display Systems, USA.
Kale Aviation: cockpit and front fuselage parts for the F-35
Kale Pratt & Whitney: F135 Airplane Engine Parts
Turkish Aerospace Industries: Composite components F-35 A / B / C, metal assemblies F-35A, air ducts F-35A and pilot equipment F-35 A / B / C
Where are the "communication and identification systems" here?

Quote: Vita VKO

The whole scandal due to the fact that Israeli and American F-35 access to the S-400 zone will be closed.

Here in Syria, the Israelis do not know about it. S-400 air defense system stands and functions, Israeli Air Force F-35s fly

Quote: Vita VKO

If on the basis of the Russian Akkuyu NPP in Turkey they want to develop their own nuclear program

That's bullshit .
It's impossible.
IAEA throw this idea.
And Bulgaria will not want to "develop" its nuclear program on the basis of Soviet nuclear power plants? and Latvia? (oh sorry, it's too late here, everything was sorted out)

[Inokenty]

Quote: Aibolit (Ivan Arnoldovich Bormental)

Quote: Vita VKO

The whole scandal due to the fact that Israeli and American F-35 access to the S-400 zone will be closed.

Here in Syria, the Israelis do not know about it. S-400 air defense system stands and functions, Israeli Air Force F-35s fly

Another strategist has appeared - momentum! Did you learn the duration? F-35 fly there with the consent of V.V. Putin - not without reason B. Netanyahu goes to Moscow, and not vice versa!

[sp77ark]

So what? Did the Israelites Stop Attacking? Just agreed on a division of interests. Putin will come to Israel soon. Already agreed to the invitation.

[Aibolit]

Quote: Inocentius

Another strategist has appeared - momentum!

Kesha ... mmm
more specifically!
1/2 year I was gone, Jordan, a wonderful country, with about its gadgets, essno.
But nothing has changed at WoT

mutants ... and of my country / Homeland - OCCUPIERS

[Inokenty]

Quote: Aibolit

mutants ... and of my country / Homeland - OCCUPIERS

Please remove the saucepan from your head - you are not in Ukraine.

[Aibolit]

Quote: Inocentius

Please remove the saucepan from your head

Impotent, moral?
maybe it sounds "proudly" ... damn it, but I am nauseated by such gays who receive a salary from the man "mustache Peskov"

[Aibolit]

Quote: Inocentius

Inocentius (Inocentius)

please pass

You will save my Motherland, and your future descendants, from the mutans, whom you still need to reorganize. Better voluntary euthanasia (it’s both cheaper and easier)

[Inokenty]

Quote: Aibolit

You will save my Motherland, and your future descendants, from the mutans, whom you still need to reorganize. Better voluntary euthanasia (it’s both cheaper and easier)

I remember that you have a bad heredity. I am glad that people like you pass their test regularly. You will have something to show your backward descendants! In a word, impulse and nothing more, even its duration does not know.

[Altai72]

The Turks received 4 cars. The rest of the F-35s will also receive, a matter of time. They work hard in this direction.

[sp77ark]

They were driven to a base in Arizona, where they were slowed down.

[Aibolit]

Quote: Altai72

Turks got 4 cars

seemingly 2 (two!) pieces of everything, according to Lockheed

Quote: sp77ark

They were driven to a base in Arizona, where they were slowed down.

Yes Yes. "fart not tossing bags"? sp77ark, you are not a case of Sands (with a mustache)?

[Inokenty]

Quote: Aibolit

seemingly 2 (two!) pieces of everything, according to Lockheed

We have known this for a long time. I remember swimming in impulses, instead of swimming trunks ... It was lucky that they did not drown at all.

Quote: Aibolit

You are not the case Sand (with a mustache)?

No, he is Pushkin with whiskers. We’ve completely lost our minds in a foreign land, an Internet battle ...

[Aibolit]

Quote: Inocentius

We have known this for a long time.

Kesha ... mmm what can you know something?
This vysyyser, says himself, for himself, or for Sobyanin says E?

Quote: Inocentius

Another strategist has appeared - momentum! Did you learn the duration? F-35 fly there with the consent of V.V. Putin - no wonder B. Netanyahu goes to Moscow, and not vice versa!

Quote: Inocentius

We’ve completely lost our minds in a foreign land, an Internet battle ...

Why are you psychopedic? Or do you have any other knowledge on the subject of "PEDICULOSIS"?

[Inokenty]

Quote: Aibolit

Why are you psychopedic? Or do you have any other knowledge on the subject of "PEDICULOSIS"?

Sorry, but hemorrhoids ... - this is not for me.

[Sky strike fighter]

Quote: chuma_velikiy

We are working on the issue of compatibility of F-35 and S-400. - naturally with the participation of Russian specialists))

Here the S-400 and B-52H have poor compatibility apparently.

The crews of the aircraft received a warning from the Russian military about their readiness to open fire. After that, both American sides abruptly turned back and hastily retired to a safe distance.

“It is reported that the Russian army’s ground radar deployed at the Khmeimim base detected a B-52H bomber approaching, and then the S-400 anti-aircraft missile system activated the fire control radar and captured the B-52H bomber with readiness to open fire. At the same time, the Russian military sent an emergency warning to the crew of the American bomber on an open channel, stating that the planes had entered the zone of Russian military control - if they could not immediately leave to return to the safe zone, the Russian military would launch missiles so that they knock down. Having heard the warning from the Russian side, the crew of the B-52H bomber immediately left the airspace near the borders of Syria, ”writes“ Sina ”.

http://in24.org/world/37870

[Alexey Sommer]

And what did B52H want? Throw nuclear bombs?

[Sky strike fighter]

Quote: Alexey Sommer

And what did B52H want? Throw nuclear bombs?

To test the S-400 radar seems to be the F-16, which accompanied the B-52N, could act as a scout.

[Aibolit]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

Feel the S-400 radar apparently. F-16, s

Maksimushka ....

Why such moronic difficulties?
Jews could "probe" for 2 (!) years.
Feel, feel ... but the sense of zero
What do the Jews have not only

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

F-16 escorting B-52H

they have from Elbit Hermes 450 to Gulfstream G550
any "slag" like the F-16I and F-35i, I will not mention that the bot-the Kremlin, not to spoil karma ..

[Aibolit]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

http://in24.org/world/37870

Is that a portal?
Who is the owner?

[1976AG]

And it is combined easily by the method of hitting a missile from S-400 to F-35

[Warrior-80]

Yes, everyone perfectly understands that the United States is simply bluffing, they cannot get away from the largest arms markets, only the French are seduced like suckers, the United States is digging a hole for themselves, no one will take them seriously anymore, it feels like a trader’s policy and not politics, profit all strategy zero

[The leader of the Redskins]

It seems to me that the task of creating such an "adapter" is very difficult. We will look, of course, but I expressed my opinion with one seat on two chairs ...

[GKS 2111]

It is called differently. And eat a fish, and hereinafter ...

[Kurare]

Quote: GKS 2111

And eat the fish, and further in the text ...

Turkey has a very difficult political and poor economic situation. For many positions, Erdogan and Co. driven themselves, often not even through their own fault, into a corner. Until the moment when they tried to overthrow Erdogan by military coup, Turkey very successfully maneuvered and received its dividends from everyone, including ISIS.

To abandon the S-400 is a failure and like death. Not giving up means driving the country even further into an economic crisis, and this, in fact, is also "death". Sitting on both chairs - so here the Americans will not allow. They require either-or. Ultimately, in my opinion, they will get an even more impasse situation.

In general, the Americans have completely forgotten how to conduct politics, here we need marathon runners, not sprinters. And they are trying to humiliate the Turks to the point of "unwilling", and moreover now, immediately and publicly. A sort of politically motivated economic flogging. "Twitter diplomacy" will go wrong. East is a delicate matter!

[Alien From]

And eat the fish, and further in the text ... And get on the Christmas tree)))))

[Galleon]

It is called differently. And eat a fish, and hereinafter ...

A different version has long been proposed: "I wanted to marry a white rose with a black toad on the ground" ...
More options will be, comrade officers?

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Galleon

More options will be, comrade officers?

What's the point?
Compare crushed brick with inert gas?

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Galleon

"I wanted to marry a white rose with a black toad on the ground" ...
More options will be?

It’s not possible to harness one cart ... a horse and a trembling doe! (A.S. Pushkin)

[Tusv]

Quote: GKS 2111

It is called differently. And eat a fish, and hereinafter ...

Well, let’s say that the bourgeoisie simply doesn’t have pepelats incompatible with Vorchun missiles. And in the text. You still have to combine it. His system - a stranger who has not yet been canceled

[Tomich3]

The fact is that in the USA and in the NATO member states the state recognition system MARK-XII (Mk-XII) is used. It implements the following operating modes: 1 and 2 (military modes), 3 / A (civilian mode, provided in S-400 air defense radar systems delivered to Turkey), 4 (military, imitation resistant mode, provides protection against provocation).
To use the fourth Mk-XII mode in the S-400 air defense system in Turkey, you must use a strictly Turkish crypto block in the ground radar interrogator (NRZ), which will ensure the operation of mode 4 and thereby exclude unwanted imitation of the work of a friend or foe system.
The first S-400 regiment kit is delivered to Turkey with a ground-based radar interrogator of the Russian-made Mk-XII (NATO) system. It is built according to the well-known STANAG 4193 standard and is compatible with the ICAO standard (Civil Secondary Radar for International Air Traffic Control, Appendix 10, Volume IV).
In addition to this, the NRH systems of Russian-made Mk-XII systems and the antenna of each of the S-400 Triumph airborne electronic systems will operate for transmission with the well-known frequency of 1030 MHz, and for reception with a frequency of 1090 MHz.
In Turkey, there is a clear understanding that it is impossible to integrate the Turkish crypto block into the Russian NRZ with regime 4 due to many technical and organizational obstacles. An acceptable solution in this regard is the use of the Turkish interrogator in the S-400 air defense system along with the national cryptoblock.
Therefore, the first regimental set of S-400 air defense systems is delivered to Turkey with the Russian NRZ system Mk-XII (NATO). Subsequently, it will be replaced by the Turkish ground-based radar interrogator developed by Aselsan. Upon delivery of the second regimental set of S-400, it is planned to immediately use Turkish-made NRZ
The S-400 Triumph air defense system does not have any means to transmit so-called key information anywhere.
In the recognition system "friend or foe" - "codes" are not transmitted. There is simply no such equipment and radar equipment. When generating a request or response code, a set of certain pulses is transmitted and, except for the receiving and transmitting antennas of the NRH, it does not go anywhere.
That is, the S-400 is not a means at all to “crack” the “friend or foe” system. This anti-aircraft missile system is intended solely for hitting targets without a sign of recognition of "own plane."
And according to the answer in the 3 / A mode (civilian mode), any aircraft, and not only the F-35, will be visible within the capabilities of the ground-based radar interrogator (up to 600 km). In modes 1 and 2, the Mk-12 F-35 will respond decisively to all ground-based radar interrogators, including civil ones. Thus, there will be no secret about its coordinates, flight route, altitude and speed. And this can be said to be publicly available information.
And the Turkish Aselzan NRZ installed on the S-400 air defense system will be fully adapted to work in both the national and the general NATO identification system, including in the imitation mode on national keys using its own (Turkish) cryptoblock, providing the operation of mode 4 (military, imitation) NATO identification system Mk-XII.
In order to exclude the technical and hypothetical possibility of an undesirable effect of Russian-made air defense equipment on the operation of Turkish air defense systems in a mixed group on their air defense assets or on air defense systems and aircraft of other NATO member countries (NATO South Air Force), the technical interaction between Turkish and Russian parties fully agreed.

[Tusv]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

one seat on two chairs ..

Sitting on two chairs is easy and someone will have to stand for busy . There is one exercise. Head off on one heel chair on the other. And people put pancakes on the belly. It is necessary to withstand 15 minutes. In this case, Russia and the United States alternately put the extra load. We will see

[Something]

"Found a scythe on a stone." Will solve the issue amicably!

[Tusv]

Quote: Something

They will solve the question amicably!

Inspired
- I'm getting married tomorrow
- For love?
- Her dad said anyway.
Maybe Vladimir Vladimirovich had this in mind when he sold Grumbler

[Something]

Quote: Something

"Found a scythe on a stone." Will solve the issue amicably!

Tusv, my answer to relations between Turkey and the United States on the issue of S-400 and F-35.

Quote: Tusv

... Maybe Vladimir Vladimirovich had this in mind when he sold Grumbler

This is a question for Vladimir Vladimirovich, and not for me. Only he knows!

[Politruk-m]

I hope to share a secret with Russia .. hehe

[Igor Borisov_2]

So already, it seems, they wrote that Turkey was excluded from the program on F-35 ??? And in general, Gus is not a penguin comrade ...

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Igor Borisov_2

So already, it seems, they wrote that Turkey was excluded from the program on F-35 ??? And in general, Gus is not a penguin comrade ...

That is yes. In the ocean, the Goose next to the Penguin looks pale.

[We_smart]

Penguins in the oceans only in the very south feel comfortable.

[DEDPIHTO]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote: Igor Borisov_2

So already, it seems, they wrote that Turkey was excluded from the program on F-35 ??? And in general, Gus is not a penguin comrade ...

That is yes. In the ocean, the Goose next to the Penguin looks pale.

Until the killer whales come up ...

[Tusv]

Quote: DEDPIHTO (

Until the killer whales came up.

A little bit clever. Killer whale is a bird ... And Kosotka is "Death Among Icebergs". There was a movie in Hollywood where the dolphin lured the Yankees and slowly killed

[Thrifty]

Then someone will sell someone. But, the Turks need us, or rather, they need the Turks to control the straits. Therefore, there will be either a compromise, or the United States will overthrow the Erdogad, and they will put their own doll in power so that they do not buy what the United States does not allow.

[plague_veliky]

[quote = Igor Borisov_2] So already, it seems, they wrote that Turkey was excluded from the F-35 program ??? - in Israel they will try)))

[knn54]

It is necessary to solve only two problems:
-to learn S-400 in English;
-to teach F-35 to swear ...

[Alien From]

Cross the hedgehog and the snake conceived ..... we will see ......

[Operator]

Turks will radiate F-35 from different angles and merge it with Russian ESR

[We_smart]

It remains for the Turks to get hold of f35.

[parkello]

the Americans are jaunting, they are well aware that the planes that they offer will be easily shot down with the S-400, even the most sophisticated ones, such as the Israeli f-35s, and with them all the other NATO aircraft. Erdogan, in spite of any tricks, remained in power, and even raised his rating across the country as a whole. it’s not Saddam anymore, and not even Gaddafi ... they won’t be able to gobble it up so quickly, so they still hope that the Turks would prefer the f-35th air defense umbrella in the face of the S-400, but they are mistaken. such aircraft that they can bring down for a long time already, and even are produced in Turkey, this F-16 block 30 + Turkey can be excluded from NATO, but this will mean that expansion is already underway against the Turks and now the invasion to eliminate Erdogan will begin, physically and politically. the Turks are interested in the f -35 because they have an aircraft carrier imprisoned for them, and here the Su-35, although it is a good aircraft, cannot take the f-35's place. the same and the Su-57. they will not fit on that aircraft carrier, but why the Turks an aircraft carrier? but in order to put pressure on Cyprus and Greece in the region of hydrocarbon deposits in the Aegean and Mediterranean seas. if before Turkish aviation had to fly across the sea to intimidate, now it will be possible to crush from the sea, where without an aircraft carrier, due to complex geography, they cannot deploy their entire combat fleet, the sea does not allow there, and if they have support at sea from the air, that's all ... therefore they will not buy its planes from Russia, no matter how much they are offered at discounted prices and in the first place ... but they also understand that without the S-400 they will be torn like a Tuzik heating pad, therefore they will never refuse S-400. if the Turks are expelled from the alliance, then consider that the 5th US fleet has already sailed from the shores.

[rhino]

How do you get such confidence that the F-35s will easily get off the S-400 ??? And if they don’t ??? 35th did not make fools, especially since the whole world is in line for him.

[parkello]

say fools didn’t do f-35, but S-400 didn’t do fools either. and they are standing in line for f-35 because there is no alternative to it among the countries included in the alliance or allied states like Israel.

[rhino]

We do not know how much money was poured into science when creating the 35th and, accordingly, 400th. The 90s and 2000s were very difficult for the Russian military-industrial complex, while the American had no problems with money. We can only guess about the amounts, but it is so clear that in the 35th they poured dozens and even probably hundreds of times more. Therefore, as literate people, we understand that the difference in the level of "iron" in the 35th as a product will be much higher. And no design genius will help here. The 400 is a very formidable weapon, but in my opinion its abilities in relation to the 35 are sooo overestimated.

[parkello]

quite the opposite. these are the capabilities of the F-35th overstate. and the S-400 was created initially to work with such goals. but I'm not going to convince you of this. there are many people who would happily support this discussion, but this person is not me. but about money in the 2000s, you’re talking in vain to me ... I’m not measuring the potential of weapons in money.

[rhino]

But weapons are now sooooo high-tech, which means expensive.

[parkello]

I trust Russian weapons much more than more expensive and "advanced" and science-intensive ones.

[rhino]

There are no miracles !!!

[Maalkavianin]

Adapters from one to another are soldered and of all affairs

[Fraracol_2]

Who will let them do it?

[Al_lexx]

They will put their own system of alien and bilateral channel for transmitting information about air targets. I do not see technical problems. But most likely, the Turks will have at their disposal F-35 with such bookmarks that it will become a flying trojan for the entire Turkish air defense. Those. it is not known what will turn out more as a result of such a wedding, harm or benefit.

[Sky strike fighter]

Quote: Vita VKO

Quote: Herman 4223

Who will let them combine something?

There are no technical problems there. All this is done even in military conditions, even Russian specialists are not needed. Moreover, the Turkish F-35s are being installed with communication and identification systems of their own, Turkish design. The whole scandal is due to the fact that Israeli and American F-35s will be denied access to the S-400 zones. If Turkey wants to develop its own nuclear program on the basis of the Russian nuclear power plant Akkuyu, then Israel will jump out of its pants.

It bothers me that we in Khmeimim had to activate the S-400 radar to drive off the B-52H. To do this, the Americans most likely provoked ours to get data on the radar frequencies. Will it not work out like the other day in Syria in this regard incident

The expert explained the failure of the Syrian missile defense in repelling the Israeli attack.

A video appeared on Twitter in which allegedly the air defense systems in service with the Syrian army units fail to repel Israeli airstrikes. Recall that on Wednesday night, Israeli air force aircraft fired on the suburbs of Damascus. The Syrian authorities at the same time announced the destruction of most of the enemy’s missiles.
The video shows how several rockets sequentially take off from the territory of the city and almost immediately fall to the ground. A third rocket flew into the air and exploded there. It is unclear whether this happened as a result of a collision with an Israeli missile or was self-liquidation. According to the Israeli portal MIGNews, missile radars after launch were lost as a result of the use of modern electronic warfare. The publication claims that the Israeli military "used means to suppress enemy radar."

https://m.vz.ru/news/2019/11/22/1009761.html

[Vita vko]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

provoked ours to get radar frequency data

Do you really think that the S-400 has only one frequency? Perhaps the United States provoked the inclusion of an air defense system in Khmeimim for combat, but the frequencies there were probably used the same as in the export versions. Theoretically, the B-52 could interfere after the S-400 took him to escort, but this was clearly assessed as the beginning of an attack, with all the ensuing consequences, i.e. The S-400 includes frequency tuning modes and, in one gulp, destroys both the carrier of cruise missiles and its support. The Pentagon General Staff is well aware of this algorithm of action, especially since the hot line between the Russian and American military is constantly working.

[Sky strike fighter]

So, Americans are evading such a combination.

[Dalmatia]

And why should Turkey buy the F-35 at all, if they really need planes, let them buy from us, and then everything will work together))

[rocket757]

An interesting "game" however.
All sorts of sages happen, now the Ottoman "drew".

[Ros 56]

You cannot harness a horse and a trembling doe in one cart.

[Egg]

Quote: Nashorn

We can only guess about the amounts, but it’s so clear that in the 35th they poured tens and even probably hundreds of times more.

Just like a gyrus on the pope .... what is such a direct connection between the infusion of money and creative genius? In the moron how many do not pour the dough will not be of any use.