In the Russian Federation and the world they monitor the radiation situation in the South China Sea after the "mysterious incident"


Rospotrebnadzor monitors the situation in the South China Sea, where on the eve of global monitoring systems, a mysterious radiation incident was recorded. At the same time, the department notes that it does not see any signs of danger to the territory of the Russian Federation and its citizens. This is the website of the department. Departments in other countries of the world are also monitoring the radiation background in this area.


On the eve of some Internet resources disseminated information about an alleged underwater “explosion” with a capacity of up to 10-20 kilotons and a sharp increase in the radiation background in the South China Sea. Most versions of what happened have the character of speculation and have not received any official confirmation from the countries of the region.

At the same time, it is noted that the South China Sea is a zone of active merchant shipping, which is patrolled by nuclear submarines in the United States and China. If we talk specifically about the region (states adjacent to the South China Sea), then among all the countries included in it, nuclear weapon only China has. In the eighties, Taiwan also had its own top-secret program to create its own nuclear arsenal, which was exposed in 1987, when it had almost reached the result. Under pressure from Washington, all work in this direction in Taiwan was curtailed.

The Spratly Islands in the South China Sea are the subject of a territorial dispute between China, Taiwan, Vietnam, the Philippines and Malaysia. Brunei is also participating in the conflict, which claims to be an exclusive economic zone, but not to the archipelago itself.
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  1. Thrifty 22 November 2019 13: 10 New
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    What to guess, sooner or later, but information will appear. And we can assume, for example, the explosion of a Chinese or American submarine reactor. ..
    1. svp67 22 November 2019 13: 15 New
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      Quote: Thrifty
      And we can assume, for example, the explosion of a Chinese or American submarine reactor. ..

      And still have not reported the loss of their nuclear submarines? It’s strange.
      1. Thrifty 22 November 2019 13: 18 New
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        Sergey, I just assumed, besides, it is not known what goals the submarine could have. ... The mission could have a vulture top secret, naturally, in that case, the boat could not and should not have been there. ... but these are all just hypotheses. ...
        1. svp67 22 November 2019 13: 24 New
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          Quote: Thrifty
          ..but it's all just hypotheses. ...

          Which has the right to life, until the official application.
          One thing I can say, our "research" ship MUST go there. Yes, and most likely already left. So I understand that information is already being collected. Nuclear explosion is very serious
          1. bouncyhunter 22 November 2019 13: 35 New
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            Quote: svp67
            information is already being collected

            I think so . A muddy story. If the "incident" really took place, then some will be clearly interested in keeping silent about the reasons ...
            1. Sky strike fighter 22 November 2019 14: 02 New
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              Quote: bouncyhunter
              Quote: svp67
              information is already being collected

              I think so . A muddy story. If the "incident" really took place, then some will be clearly interested in keeping silent about the reasons ...

              Here or North Korea or the United States involved.
              WASHINGTON, November 21, 2019 16:49 p.m. - REGNUM In the South China Sea, the strongest submarine explosion with a capacity of up to 20 kilotons of TNT was recorded, Hal Turner Radio Show reports November 21, citing monitoring services of the World Ocean.

              According to preliminary data, the explosion occurred at 02:22 Moscow time at a depth of about 50 meters. After that, an increase in the level of radiation was recorded on the coast of China and on the island of Taiwan, the source claims.

              It is specified that the explosion caused a very strong shock wave, recorded by the sensors. At the same time, geological services exclude the possibility of an earthquake in this area of ​​the South China Sea.

              The media suggest that the explosion could have occurred on board one of the US Navy's nuclear submarines, regularly located in this area.

              There is no official confirmation of this information yet.

              https://www.yaplakal.com/forum23/topic2035492.html
              1. bouncyhunter 22 November 2019 14: 04 New
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                Quote: Sky Strike fighter
                Here or North Korea or the United States involved

                Let's not guess for now, but wait for at least some specifics (if we wait). yes
                1. Shurik70 22 November 2019 14: 29 New
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                  Quote: Thrifty
                  it can be assumed, for example, the explosion of a reactor of a Chinese or American submarine. ..

                  The reactor would explode weaker. That radiation would be like from a thousand Hiroshima. Chernobyl is a guarantee.
                  10 kilotons minimum is a full nuclear charge.
                  1. -Barmaley- 22 November 2019 18: 27 New
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                    It is possible, although I am not an expert and I do not know how you calculate the power of the explosion, but what if you add ammunition to the reactor?
                  2. kuz363 22 November 2019 18: 58 New
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                    Comparison with Chernobyl is incorrect at least by the difference in the amount of uranium.
                    1. Shurik70 22 November 2019 20: 12 New
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                      Quote: kuz363
                      Comparison with Chernobyl is incorrect at least by the difference in the amount of uranium.

                      In Chernobyl, 400 times more radioactive substances were released into the atmosphere than in Hiroshima. But it is worth considering that these are different substances. If in Hiroshima after 10 years radiation fell to a safe level for life, then substances with a half-life of decay of thousands and tens of thousands of years were thrown out in Chernobyl.
                      So in fact, it is worth considering Chernobyl tens (if not hundreds) of thousands of times more powerful than Hiroshima. The submarine reactor is ten times less in power than the Chernobyl nuclear power plant. Therefore, radioactive contamination during the explosion of such a reactor is about several thousand Hiroshima, and not tens of thousands.
                      1. PN
                        PN 22 November 2019 21: 12 New
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                        Quote: Shurik70
                        The submarine reactor is ten times less in power than the Chernobyl nuclear power plant. Therefore, radioactive contamination during the explosion of such a reactor is about several thousand Hiroshima, and not tens of thousands.

                        Did not take into account the correction for the wind. Uranium in the nuclear reactor is enriched many times more than in the reactor of a nuclear power plant.
                      2. Shurik70 23 November 2019 17: 07 New
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                        Quote: PN

                        Did not take into account the correction for the wind. Uranium in the nuclear reactor is enriched many times more than in the reactor of a nuclear power plant.

                        Do not take into account the hull of the submarine.
                        In order for radiation to come out, the explosion must not only break the reactor vessel, but also break the boat body. Given that this will not be so much a shock wave as an etching of superheated vapors through a crack, the crew of the submarine are not residents, but the hull itself will not be affected.
                      3. Alexey LK 23 November 2019 18: 27 New
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                        Quote: Shurik70
                        not so much a shock wave as the etching of superheated vapors through a crack


                        Excuse me, but where does 10-20 ct come from then?
                      4. Shurik70 23 November 2019 20: 16 New
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                        I quote:
                        Quote: Shurik70
                        The reactor would explode weaker. That radiation would be like from a thousand Hiroshima. Chernobyl bail

                        Then the conversation smoothly turned to submarine reactor accidents and the degree of radioactive infection from them
                        hi
        2. Fraracol_2 22 November 2019 18: 02 New
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          Yes, Hal Turner Radio Show and REGNUM are roughly equivalent sources ....
      2. tihonmarine 22 November 2019 16: 07 New
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        Quote: bouncyhunter
        If the "incident" really took place, then some will be clearly interested in keeping silent about the reasons ...

        The incident at Fokushima was also strange.
        1. bouncyhunter 22 November 2019 18: 02 New
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          Quote: tihonmarine
          The incident at Fokushima NPP was also strange

          I do not think that these incidents should be put on a par. Take your time with conclusions, colleague. hi
          1. tihonmarine 22 November 2019 18: 21 New
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            Quote: bouncyhunter
            Take your time with conclusions, colleague.

            These are not my conclusions, I am not an expert. This was done by the French after the accident.
    2. Pajamas 22 November 2019 23: 57 New
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      Quote: svp67
      Quote: Thrifty
      ..but it's all just hypotheses. ...

      Which has the right to life, until the official application.
      One thing I can say, our "research" ship MUST go there. Yes, and most likely already left. So I understand that information is already being collected. Nuclear explosion is very serious

      Why immediately an explosion? It is unlikely that seismographs would be detected.
    3. Mikhail3 23 November 2019 13: 30 New
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      The “explosion” of a reactor is not a nuclear explosion. Strictly speaking, this is not an explosion at all, but simply steam cotton. And if this happened, it is not very clear where the information came from. The infection is still negligible, the shock wave is tiny, it is unlikely that someone outsider could even notice anything.
      It is absolutely impossible to speak about 20 kilotons during the incident with the reactor; there are no reactors in the world that could slam even one kiloton, and even a tenth of it. To get a nuclear explosion, you need to gain a critical mass, but not anyhow. This simply cannot happen in the reactor.
      A nuclear explosion can only be nuclear, and this is already extremely serious. But something is very little believed in it.
  • APES 22 November 2019 13: 23 New
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    still have not reported the loss of their nuclear submarines

    If there is a problem, then why advertise it? Imagine this is true - as a result of which there was a strong emission of radiation - if announced, then what kind of panic could arise?
  • Vlad.by 22 November 2019 13: 40 New
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    and will not declare ...
    Otherwise, someone will have to blame, and respond. And the elephant is not the same, wrinkled
    And the second elephant has not yet gained strength.
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    1. Mytholog 22 November 2019 17: 04 New
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      This is already an invoice. The fog begins to dissipate.
    2. Alexey Sommer 22 November 2019 17: 13 New
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      Of course, interesting news. Will wait
  • tihonmarine 22 November 2019 16: 03 New
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    Quote: svp67
    And still have not reported the loss of their nuclear submarines? It’s strange.

    Strange, but there is no smoke without fire. Look for a boy.
  • dirk182 22 November 2019 13: 17 New
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    this version has already been rejected .... the power is not that
    1. bessmertniy 22 November 2019 13: 21 New
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      However, there is no smoke without fire. If radiation is actually observed, then there is a reason for this.
  • Civil 22 November 2019 13: 19 New
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    Just in case, I looked at Chinese and Western news sites, everyone is silent. Fake like.
    1. Alexey Sommer 22 November 2019 17: 16 New
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      Quote: Civil
      Just in case, I looked at Chinese and Western news sites, everyone is silent. Fake like.

      The reasons for silence may be different ..
      Let's say China accidentally sunk a US boat, or vice versa ...
      Everyone is thinking ...
      How now to be?! .. If without compromise, then this is war. The case was leaked, or whatever? ...
  • APES 22 November 2019 13: 19 New
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    sooner or later, but information will appear

    If that was true, then we still won’t know the truth
  • Genry 22 November 2019 13: 21 New
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    Quote: Thrifty
    And we can assume, for example, the explosion of a Chinese or American submarine reactor. ..

    Do you believe in 20 kilotons?
    And how much was in Chernobyl? Already impossible to count - a whole zero !!!
    Alas, nuclear reactors do not give a nuclear explosion. They have no compression of the active substance into the core with a critical mass.
    1. svp67 22 November 2019 13: 25 New
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      Quote: Genry
      Alas, nuclear reactors do not give a nuclear explosion.

      And the warheads of torpedoes, mines and missiles?
      1. Genry 22 November 2019 13: 35 New
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        Quote: svp67
        And the warheads of torpedoes, mines and missiles?

        These things belong to strategic submarines, which should be on duty away from a potential enemy, i.e. not in the South China Sea ..
        1. svp67 22 November 2019 13: 47 New
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          Quote: Genry
          These things belong to strategic submarines, which should be on duty away from a potential enemy, i.e. not in the South China Sea ..

          And who said that she was on duty there, she could make the transition
          1. Genry 22 November 2019 13: 54 New
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            Quote: svp67
            she could make the transition

            Through a tightly controlled zone in China?
            1. svp67 22 November 2019 14: 09 New
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              Quote: Genry
              Through a tightly controlled zone in China?
              And if this is a Chinese submarine?
              1. Genry 22 November 2019 14: 18 New
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                Quote: svp67
                And if this is a Chinese submarine?

                There is nothing strategic to do there, just get underfoot .... For underwater hunters, the moment of arming with nuclear warheads has not yet arrived.
                1. Dude 22 November 2019 14: 35 New
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                  For underwater hunters, the moment of arming with nuclear warheads has not yet come.
                  In what sense? You want to say that multi-purpose nuclear submarines carry warheads only with conventional weapons? This is not true.
                  1. Genry 22 November 2019 14: 46 New
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                    Quote: Dude
                    You want to say that multi-purpose nuclear submarines carry warheads only with conventional weapons? This is not true.

                    It used to be a fashion to carry nuclear weapons with you. But life has shown that this is a big risk and therefore it should be taken only for specific, in a short period of time, tasks.
                    1. Kurare 22 November 2019 15: 52 New
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                      Quote: Genry
                      ... and therefore it should be taken only for specific, in a short period of time, tasks.

                      This approach is the dream of any spy / scout. wink That is, as soon as they begin to load weapons with special charges - wait for the hedgehog!
                    2. Genry 22 November 2019 16: 21 New
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                      Quote: Kurare
                      as soon as they begin to load weapons with special charges - wait for the hedgehog!

                      Tactical nuclear weapons will be used already in the "neglected" phase of the heap.
                    3. Kurare 22 November 2019 16: 36 New
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                      Quote: Genry
                      Tactical nuclear weapons ...

                      The concept of a multipurpose nuclear submarine + cruise missiles in itself is actually a strategic nuclear weapon. And they drag him to the ICAPL in peacetime.
                    4. Geo⁣ 22 November 2019 21: 34 New
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                      Quote: Genry

                      Tactical nuclear weapons will be used already in the "neglected" phase of the heap.

                      After the mushrooms bloom over the bases of those submarines? Do you think these bases are not related to the goals of the first strike?
                    5. Genry 23 November 2019 10: 38 New
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                      Quote: Geo⁣
                      After the mushrooms bloom over the bases of those submarines?

                      Well, you are just an esthetician or a foodie. Vegan?
                      Quote: Geo⁣
                      Do you think these bases are not related to the goals of the first strike?

                      This is the enemy’s desire, but does he have the opportunity to break through the air defense / missile defense.
                    6. Geo⁣ 23 November 2019 17: 18 New
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                      Quote: Genry
                      but does he have the opportunity to break through air defense / missile defense

                      Until it is, they will not)
                      But our argument is not about that. And the fact that hoping to get a chance to load nuclear weapons on boats in bases after day X is silly.
                    7. Genry 24 November 2019 02: 20 New
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                      Quote: Geo⁣
                      And the fact that hoping to get a chance to load nuclear weapons on boats in bases after day X is silly.

                      Why is it stupid?
                      Tactical nuclear weapons will be supplied, like conventional weapons, from the corresponding depots.
                    8. Geo⁣ 24 November 2019 21: 27 New
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                      Tactical nuclear weapons will be supplied, like conventional weapons, from the corresponding depots.

                      What does this offer mean?
                    9. Genry 25 November 2019 14: 33 New
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                      Quote: Geo⁣
                      What does this offer mean?

                      You do not know about storage and delivery?
          2. Rustic i ...... 23 November 2019 17: 32 New
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            Or maybe the "rascal" has already begun, but we do not see it and do not want to see it?
      2. Jager 22 November 2019 17: 51 New
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        This was practiced in aviation. After several incidents involving the loss of bombs and aircraft, there is no longer risk. Premier League is another matter.
  • Dude 22 November 2019 13: 48 New
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    These things belong to strategic submarines, which should be on duty away from a potential enemy
    Not certainly in that way. In the case of nuclear submarines with SLBMs this is true, but the same torpedoes with Special. Warheads may be on board multipurpose boats that are simply required to be on duty in this area.
  • dvina71 22 November 2019 21: 43 New
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    Quote: svp67
    A warheads of torpedoes, mines and missiles

    From a concussion, modern explosives do not explode. All the more so ... it’s necessary to create a critical mass, just a fallen nuclear bomb will not explode, collapse and spoil the district enriched with uranium or plutonium. The reactor cannot explode either. Usually a high pressure zone in the primary cooling circuit, if the pumps stop there will be an explosion and release into the atmosphere. Deuterium. Low-risk isotope, the radiation of which does not penetrate human skin. And then the reactor collapses from the increase in temperature and pressure in the reactor .., but this is not an explosion. After the destruction of the reactor, a mass of isotopes with a huge half-life is released into the atmosphere ... littering vast territories.
    Therefore ... it is not so difficult to determine by isotopes or the reactor was destroyed.
  • APES 22 November 2019 13: 30 New
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    believe in xnumx kilotons

    Such an explosion at a depth of 50 meters is a tsunami
    1. Kurare 22 November 2019 13: 43 New
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      Quote: APES
      Such an explosion at a depth of 50 meters is a tsunami

      Actually, a tsunami needs a bottom explosion. There were projects of atomic torpedoes that had exploded near the bottom in order to raise it and, thus, form a deep wave, which when approaching the shore turn into a tsunami.
      1. Igorpl 22 November 2019 13: 54 New
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        And power is orders of magnitude greater.
    2. Narak-zempo 22 November 2019 14: 54 New
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      Quote: APES
      Such an explosion at a depth of 50 meters is a tsunami

      By no means.
      Watch the video of the second test on the Bikini Atoll (Operation Crossroads). There was 23 kt at a depth of 30 m. 6 km. the tidal wave reached 5 m from the epicenter. At any considerable distance (remember that the energy decreases in proportion to the square of the distance), it is practically invisible.
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  • Dude 22 November 2019 13: 40 New
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    And how much was in Chernobyl? Already impossible to count - a whole zero !!!
    Well, far from zero, of course. It was simply not a nuclear explosion. And if there was an explosion, then its power can be measured in TNT equivalent.
    1. Scoun 22 November 2019 18: 51 New
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      Quote: Dude
      It was simply not a nuclear explosion. And if there was an explosion, then its power can be measured in TNT equivalent.

      Comrade, all explosions are considered in TNT equivalent. hi

      TNT equivalent is a measure of the energy release of high-energy events, expressed in the amount of trinitrotoluene (TNT), which releases an equal amount of energy during an explosion.

      The specific energy of the explosive decomposition of trinitrotoluene, depending on the conditions of the explosion, varies in the range of 980–1100 cal / g. For comparison of different types of explosives, conventionally accepted values ​​are 1000 cal / g and 4184 J / g.

      1 gram of trinitrotoluene emits 1000 thermochemical calories, or 4184 joules;
      1 kilogram TNT = 4,184 · 106 J;
      1 ton of TNT = 4,184 · 109 J;
      1 kiloton (ct) TNT = 4,184 · 1012 J;
      1 megaton (MT) TNT = 4,184 · 1015 J;
      1 gigatonne (Gt) TNT = 4,184 · 1018 J.
      These units are used to estimate the energy released during nuclear explosions, explosions of chemical explosive devices, falls of asteroids and comets, explosions of volcanoes.

      Thus, according to various estimates, the energy of the explosion of the Malysh nuclear bomb over Hiroshima on August 6, 1945 is from 13 to 18 kt TNT, which corresponds to a complete conversion of approximately 0,7 g of mass into energy (E = mc² = 0,0007 · (3 · 108) 2).

      1 kilotonne = 1 kg of TNT
      1. Dude 22 November 2019 23: 02 New
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        Comrade, all explosions are considered in TNT equivalent. hi
        That is what I wrote.
      2. Eroma 23 November 2019 00: 18 New
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        Kilo is 1000, you wrote a million is Megaton hi
        1. Sergey TT 23 November 2019 11: 41 New
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          He wrote in kilograms, so everything is correct.
    2. Alexey LK 23 November 2019 18: 36 New
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      Quote: Dude
      its power can be measured in TNT equivalent.

      About 10 tons, they say.
  • Slon1978 22 November 2019 13: 37 New
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    If the power was really 10-20 kt, then we can talk about a thermonuclear reaction, which is possible only when a nuclear charge is triggered. A nuclear reactor can’t explode like that, there can be gas pressure and an explosion of a "dirty bomb" of small power, but not 10-20 kt.
    1. AVA77 22 November 2019 17: 07 New
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      Perhaps you were mistaken, if there was a thermonuclear charge then the power would have been megaton.
      1. Fraracol_2 22 November 2019 17: 54 New
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        More than 100 ct, it’s already fusion, read on the Internet, full of articles.
        1. AVA77 22 November 2019 18: 11 New
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          Slon1978 (Sergey) Wrote that we can talk about a thermonuclear reaction (which is unlikely)
          I meant that it could not be a thermonuclear bomb (well, if only one detonator worked)
  • knn54 22 November 2019 13: 54 New
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    What to guess ... about the “stuffing” .10 ... 20 kilotons would cause such a wave (tsunami) that few would not have imagined.
    1. Slavs 22 November 2019 14: 14 New
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      Tsunami will not cause. The volume of water will throw up, partially evaporate, the rest will return, cause excitement, but not a tsunami. A shift of lithospheric plates, when one rises to the other and lifts a column of water above itself, which has nowhere to return, will cause a tsunami. [Media = www.youtube.com / watch? V = 6IbJpewIh5Q & feature = emb_logo]
    2. Fraracol_2 22 November 2019 17: 53 New
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      There will be practically nothing.
  • The leader of the Redskins 22 November 2019 14: 06 New
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    It’s too late that VO reacts to such news. Half a day already the topic is exaggerated ...
  • voyaka uh 22 November 2019 14: 07 New
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    "we can assume, for example, the explosion of a reactor of a Chinese or American submarine." ////
    ----
    Right. This is what was suggested. The explosion on the Chinese submarine.
    1. Alexey Sommer 22 November 2019 17: 23 New
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      People say too much 10 kT for such a thing.
      That's the thing
      And so anyone could be.
      Suddenly a submarine of some Middle Eastern country was hanging around there.
      Well so skherlilsya ...
      Did the Yobnula warhead?)
  • Narak-zempo 22 November 2019 14: 31 New
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    Quote: Thrifty
    reactor explosion

    10-20 kilotons? It must be a specially designed charge.
  • Chit 22 November 2019 15: 52 New
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    Information will appear ...
    I would not be so optimistic.
    Mr. Peskov has just said that Russia has classified information about the state of emergency near Severodvinsk. For we are talking about testing new weapons systems. Here is such information about the information near Severodvinsk.
    It could be the same here.
  • Elephant 22 November 2019 16: 01 New
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    Quote: Thrifty
    What to guess, sooner or later, but information will appear.

    Maybe it will appear in 50 years, when the signature stamp will be removed.
  • Brturin 22 November 2019 17: 01 New
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    Quote: Thrifty
    reactor explosion
    the reactor somehow ... But if s / l, the Argentines have a boat explosion, about six tons in TNT equivalent in power and what happened to s / l ... the isotopic composition will say a lot ...
  • Greg Miller 23 November 2019 02: 52 New
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    Quote: Thrifty
    What to guess, sooner or later, but information will appear. And we can assume, for example, the explosion of a Chinese or American submarine reactor. ..

    10 kilotons of TNT, reactor? No, this cannot be ... 10 kT is an uncontrolled chain reaction, i.e. sabotage
  • smart ass 23 November 2019 10: 50 New
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    Rospotrebnadzor would so violently monitor the explosion in Severodvinsk
  • Igor Borisov_2 22 November 2019 13: 30 New
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    Quote: Genry
    Quote: Thrifty
    And we can assume, for example, the explosion of a Chinese or American submarine reactor. ..

    Do you believe in 20 kilotons?
    And how much was in Chernobyl? Already impossible to count - a whole zero !!!
    Alas, nuclear reactors do not give a nuclear explosion. They have no compression of the active substance into the core with a critical mass.

    That is, there was no radiation background in Chernobyl?
    1. Dude 22 November 2019 13: 37 New
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      Of course, there was radiation contamination in Chernobyl. Only there was no nuclear explosion, it was thermal.
    2. DenZ 22 November 2019 13: 37 New
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      Quote: Igor Borisov_2
      That is, there was no radiation background in Chernobyl?

      We are talking about a nuclear explosion. He was not in Chernobyl (in the form in which it occurs under the influence of nuclear weapons). Oddly enough, the level of radiation can be increased without a nuclear explosion.
    3. Kurare 22 November 2019 13: 38 New
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      Quote: Igor Borisov_2
      That is, there was no radiation background in Chernobyl?

      In Chernobyl, there was a kind of dirty bomb. And she, as you know, is not a product of a chain reaction of critical mass. Hence the radiation background.
    4. svp67 22 November 2019 13: 49 New
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      Quote: Igor Borisov_2
      That is, there was no radiation background in Chernobyl?

      Take the nuclear waste and put it in a certain amount on an anti-personnel mine, and then make an explosion. There is no atomic explosion, but there is a background ...
  • Pavel57 22 November 2019 13: 34 New
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    Nuclear explosion at a depth of 50m. was visually noticeable.
    1. g1washntwn 22 November 2019 13: 58 New
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      Or you would have “missed” between “was noticeable,” or all the media in the world just popping their ears without stealing such a hot video from each other. Again a "newbie", but for China?
    2. Satanator 22 November 2019 15: 13 New
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      noticeable of course, with the attendant destruction of witnesses
  • Igor Borisov_2 22 November 2019 13: 39 New
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    about a certain underwater “explosion” with a capacity of up to 10-20 kilotons and a sharp increase in radiation background

    Most likely there was allegedly no “explosion”, but the increase in the radiation background was quite likely recorded .....
  • iouris 22 November 2019 13: 45 New
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    Or maybe in the East China Sea ...
  • Galleon 22 November 2019 13: 50 New
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    Apparently, you need to wait a couple of days until the passing shaft of masking messages passes, such as the uranium rods found (yeah, sailed to the island by water), the confusion of the seas and the participating countries. And then calmly sort out this news.
    1. bouncyhunter 22 November 2019 13: 54 New
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      hi
      Quote: Galleon
      the type of uranium rods found (yeah, sailed to the island by water), the confusion of the seas and participating countries

      good I'm afraid to even think whose markings on the rod will be. yes
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    According to RIA Novosti, according to Ryukyu Shimpo newspaper, on Monday evening, a resident of the Japanese island of Miyako discovered a cylinder with the inscription "Uranium fuel rod" on the shore.

    That is unlucky in life for someone. Someone finds a wallet, and someone here is such a cylinder. smile
    1. Dikson 22 November 2019 14: 11 New
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      Can you imagine how much the uranium fuel rod weighs? This is not a bamboo stick, so that it waves and throws it ashore .. And its buoyancy is appropriate ..
      1. Souchastnik 22 November 2019 18: 51 New
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        And his buoyancy is corresponding ..

        This is for you. And the British media are floating such objects. Well, at worst, an underwater explosion was washed ashore. In short, the Russian trace.
  • Kelwin 22 November 2019 14: 36 New
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    The rod on the rod, but (do not laugh at the current)) something was caught in Japan nevertheless)
    http://forum.atominfo.ru/index.php?s=&showtopic=1204&view=findpost&p=108324
    there is a photo. Since the specialists called it something with the word "thing", they did not see such garbage and cannot recognize it. It does not fonit, it only has a certain inscription about "uranium fuel". It looks like some kind of dummy on my knee ... but for some reason someone had to do it too. Do not oversleep a sensation, same Friday lol drinks
    1. Rustic i ...... 23 November 2019 17: 53 New
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      "It looks like some kind of dummy on a knee ... but someone had to do it for some reason." - Hee, hee, Chinese masters of copy and dummy. And didn’t it occur to anyone that the poachers simply jammed the fish, and accidentally blew up a mine or torpedo from the Second World War with a charge?
  • evgen1221 22 November 2019 14: 36 New
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    Maybe someone’s boat is bambanula.
  • Graz 22 November 2019 14: 47 New
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    to spoil the Chinese in their waters is something that the Yankees will not disdain
    1. Eroma 23 November 2019 00: 36 New
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      What a nuclear weapon! The Chinese at home makes no sense to blow up, Trump is certainly an impudent guy, but not a scumbag! DPRK could try its hand, but they need to deceive the ploy of China, Japan, the United States, as it is unlikely that they are capable of negative
      Conclusion: this is a UFO, anti-gravity is dead, the thermonuclear fuss was gone so that humanity would not know that the Desipticons had ruled America for a long time, People in black hid their ends in water! bully
      Not everyone was given a sparkle to know, here are the news and leaked wassat
  • Narak-zempo 22 November 2019 14: 57 New
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    in the area of ​​the South China Sea

    Too bad it's not over Washington. Or over Tbilisi at worst.
  • Politruk-m 22 November 2019 14: 59 New
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    Well, Russia obviously has nothing to do with it ... And such a howl would have risen to "our world media" .. There, the Japanese are quietly pouring out contaminated water from Fukushima and EVERYTHING is silent. God forbid, if it really did blow something ..
    1. Rustic i ...... 23 November 2019 17: 59 New
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      Yeah, ours usually louder louder, the whole world yells excitedly after all sorts of different accidents.
  • Satanator 22 November 2019 15: 10 New
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    10-20 kt can give only a combat charge, the reactors drop off, then the cloud should rise high, at least 30 km visible, the operational appearance of the video from this place is hardly real - the electromagnetic pulse should spoil all digital gadgets and any radio communication in the district, therefore, while official silence, later some evidence may appear - we can only wait
    1. Horon 22 November 2019 16: 30 New
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      EMP in water? Water perfectly absorbs most of the electromagnetic waves! The radius of electromagnetic radiation in such an explosion will be much smaller than the radius of damage from the shock wave, and it will also not be large with such power and such depth.
      1. Satanator 22 November 2019 21: 05 New
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        and so he knew that someone would blurt out about the water - put a magnet in the bathtub - and visually make sure that his field was still here!
        water interferes with radio communications and locators, and EMR, believe me, will be enough to slam the mobile electronics in the area and prevent witnesses from filming the spectacle
        1. Horon 25 November 2019 08: 41 New
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          Was a nuclear explosion generating unidirectional magnetic fields? And how can a constant magnetic field bring an electronic device?
          put a magnet in the bathtub - and visually make sure that its field is still here!

          Take the magnet and attach it to the car recorder, so what? Is he out of order? The same thing can be done even with a niode magnet, it can only affect the shooting result by tearing the recorder out of the mount and changing its angle! But the impact of microwave, gamma radiation or alternating magnetic fields of high intensity with a high slew rate yes, it is dangerous for electronics.
  • Karislav 22 November 2019 17: 08 New
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    Poseidon accidentally flopped .... although not already under the Arkhangelsk tests are already being carried out ... brains turned on
    1. Souchastnik 22 November 2019 18: 55 New
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      Poseidon flipped by accident ...

      Tests of the apparatus should be without warhead. So it’s unlikely.
  • Fraracol_2 22 November 2019 17: 48 New
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    Well, you can’t hide 10-20 kt, even at great depths, and there seems to be no great depths there. But on similar incidents, you can approximately understand who is now in the world "playing with the atom."
  • impostor 22 November 2019 18: 01 New
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    We will see if Mrs. Gina Haspel arrives urgently in Beijing soon?
    1. Alexey LK 23 November 2019 18: 43 New
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      Quote: impostor
      soon to beijing

      Or in taipei
  • Kunduz 22 November 2019 18: 23 New
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    Judging by the nature of the explosion, this is a test of tactical nuclear weapons: a torpedo, for example. Most likely - this is China. They are still silent. I liked the comment on one of the resources: "Where is Fedor Konyukhov now?"
  • fa2998 22 November 2019 19: 24 New
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    Quote: svp67
    Nuclear explosion is

    Have you ever seen an underwater explosion? There is not only radiation, there the surface fungus is visible for tens of km. There is a wave like a tsunami. And this is in the area of ​​heavy shipping? Most likely an accident on the nuclear ship. All involved will be stubbornly silent. hi
    1. 2 Level Advisor 22 November 2019 20: 46 New
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      What do you think - the explosion of an F-1 grenade differs from a 152mm HE? that's the same 10-20 kt from 1mt is different .. you described 1 mt
      1. Avior 23 November 2019 02: 45 New
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        the first characteristic mushroom in the explosion was in Halifax in the explosion of the Mont Blanc ship with 3000 tons of explosives
        1. 2 Level Advisor 23 November 2019 06: 40 New
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          Sergei, the underwater at a depth of 50 m is different .. but for the surface, and even with pieces of the ship and smoke, yes, the right picture, under the water there will not be much smoke or pieces of the ship with 50 m of depth, it will be something like this, but not a "mushroom":


          “At shallow depths: less than 0,3 mt - water evaporates to the surface and no column of water (explosive sultan) is formed, 90% of the radioactive contamination leaves the cloud, 10% remains in the water”
          The physics of a nuclear explosion. In 5 volumes - 3rd, supplemented / Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. 12 Central Research Institute.
  • Basarev 22 November 2019 21: 48 New
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    Eh, to blame China for forbidden nuclear tests, and even hammer it into rubble for such impudence ... China should be poor and backward, rolling it out is a sacred duty of all developed countries, it must be stopped while it is still possible. Because China is an all-devouring locust, leaving behind only a poisonous desert, on which nothing will grow. If we want to save the whole environment, we must destroy China, bring it down irreparably, so that it no longer rises.
    1. Vadim237 23 November 2019 00: 02 New
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      There will be a joke if this is a warhead on one of the ICBMs of the Chinese SSGN spontaneously worked - when the submarine was in a submerged position.
    2. PavelT 23 November 2019 23: 37 New
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      No, China, on the contrary, is the hope of an alternative American vector of development for the whole world.
      Moreover, China has a bulk of nuclear weapons with missiles - no one dares to roll it out.
      But for Saudi Arabia, these words are just right: Roll out the Wahhabi kingdom is a sacred duty of all developed countries, it must be stopped while it is still possible. Because KSA is an all-devouring locust, leaving behind only the poisonous desert of Wahhabism and obscurantism, on which nothing will grow. If we want to save our whole environment, the whole civilized world, we must destroy Saudi Arabia, bring it down irreparably, so that Wahhabism no longer rises. And our oil industry will benefit!
      1. Basarev 24 November 2019 09: 09 New
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        Well, I don’t know, I personally feel closer to the American development vector - the capitalist one. You will not understand in any way that all the troubles of Russia are not from the machinations of evil Americans and not from the capitalist formation. There are simply too many Revanes, over and over again merging the country for the sake of personal goodies. Our enemy is not in Washington, but in the Kremlin.
  • Oleg133 22 November 2019 21: 51 New
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    The torpedo banged, it is unclear only whose and specifically or accident
    1. Herman 4223 24 November 2019 10: 16 New
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      A torpedo with a charge of 10 kilotons? This is either a joke of humor or somewhere washed off a couple of islands, but we are not good. 10 kilotons is a nuclear explosion. Underwater, he was supposed to cause a wave that would go through the nearest shores. That would be in the news feeds.
  • Geo⁣ 22 November 2019 23: 33 New
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    Someone lost something, then someone found something, and as a result of something, something happened.
    I think I’m not very mistaken if I say that reality with a high degree of probability can be described using this template))
  • Sasha from Uralmash 23 November 2019 00: 16 New
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    Yeah! Who matched Kursk. For now we are waiting!
  • Kelwin 23 November 2019 05: 37 New
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    Especially for cow-brewers and zhurnalyug - the amount of activity ejected into the external environment is measured in Bq (Bekkerel), and not in fukushima Chernobyls, and especially not in hiroshima, only a clinical graduate of journalism, law, hürfak can carry this heresy. Give a stupid head with a fuel rod, the current is not available, but it's a pity)
    1. Dikson 23 November 2019 07: 58 New
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      Why do you need a fuel rod at home ??? !!! Pity the neighbors .. - they will come after all ..))
  • Omskgasmyas 23 November 2019 06: 19 New
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    The answer for Losharik?
  • jonht 23 November 2019 11: 02 New
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    At a depth of 50 meters? Vryatli, someone would have noticed a gas-gas fan, besides how they write up to 20 kilotons .... If there was an explosion, it’s at a much greater depth, for example, 300-500 meters, although again the gas-vapor mixture came out b to the surface .... Radiation in air and in water.
    My opinion, if there was any incident, then with the pulling of gases from the reactor, this happened in the first series of self-propelled guns. In such an accident, an increase in air will be recorded, but most likely not in the water. But this is my opinion, let’s wait for journalists to sniff out.
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    10-20 kilotons ??? This is a nuclear explosion, in Jerosima there were 16. Such an underwater explosion was supposed to cause a small tsunami. The story is strange.