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Indirect lethal weapon: DARPA insect agricultural program

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Indirect lethal weapon: DARPA insect agricultural program

The publication Foreign Affairs published an essay that is devoted to the issues of changing the usual forms of military confrontation between one or another country or group. The essay is entitled "The war is not over." It notes that in modern times the very fact of declaring war on someone else was rare, but this does not mean that there are fewer wars, and even more so does not mean that wars are coming to naught.


The author of the material notes that has changed significantly weapon.

From the article:

If some time ago the ratio of “one killed per three wounded” was considered the “norm” for military operations, now this ratio has changed to “one in ten”. The number of deaths is still decreasing. So, in the First and Second World Wars, the average death toll per day was 5-7 thousand people. Today, this figure is about 50 people per day.

Improvements in medical science, the ability to quickly transport the wounded, and the use of high-precision weapons play their role, as noted in the essay.

The material notes that the 30 anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall is celebrated in the world, but few say that much more walls have grown over this time than it was.

From the article:

Today in the world, according to the most conservative estimates, there are 70 walls (between states or their parts). This indicates a depletion of trust. Humanity continues to arm itself to the teeth.

Against this background, an example of the development of a completely new weapon is given. In particular, we are talking about the work of the American Advanced Research Agency DARPA on a program for the possible use of insects as a weapon. The program is called "Allied Insects."

In fact, this is the development of what is called indirect lethal weapons, which can destroy crops in certain territories and spread pre-prepared viruses. In the journal Science a while ago, the Max Planck Institute scientists called the project on the use of insects as a weapon “sinister”. About this writes the Indian columnist Manmohan Bahadur.


His article is published in the Hindustan Times. From the article:

DARPA says that this is a “useful program” that such viruses, when spread by insects, will change the genes of the target crops and protect them from man-made or natural whims, such as drought, salinization, floods. DARPA says it is working on food security. But this may turn out to be a deliberate attack on the territory of the enemy. Firstly, it violates the Biological Weapons Convention. Secondly, it will upset the balance when some countries “protect” the crop in such a way, while others do not. Thirdly, the asymmetry of opportunities for agricultural producers will increase. Fourth, no one will dare to say what general damage this kind of weapon can do not only to the enemy, but to the whole ecosystem. Fifth, this “agricultural” weapon is simply mortally dangerous to humans, it can lead to a painful death, changing the balance of the number of dead and wounded (infected).

The United States does not believe that such programs fall under the Biological Weapons Convention, continuing to maintain that their weapons are supposedly irrelevant. Why then the program is being implemented under the control of the Ministry of Defense is not mentioned.
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  1. Victor_B
    Victor_B 22 November 2019 06: 41 New
    +19
    And, here is a surprise!
    There are mysterious American biological laboratories in Georgia and Ukraine.
    Well, and what of the fact that they are military?
    They are engaged in purely peaceful programs.
    From their words.
    And gentlemen are supposed to take a word!
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 22 November 2019 06: 59 New
      +6
      Georgians began to get sick more often and die from unknown diseases!
      1. Hunter 2
        Hunter 2 22 November 2019 07: 20 New
        +17
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        Georgians began to get sick more often and die from unknown diseases!

        Sorry of course people.
        And now the question .... why the majority of vaccines that are given to our children are IMPORTED production ??? am
        1. Uncle lee
          Uncle lee 22 November 2019 07: 30 New
          +7
          Quote: Hunter 2
          IMPORTED production ???

          But this is the most important question !!!!!!
          1. Uncle lee
            Uncle lee 22 November 2019 08: 22 New
            0
            Vaccingate: Italian scientists have discovered 560 cancer causing genes in a vaccine.
            What is clear from this genetic sequencing is that the vaccine industry vaccinates children with cancer. As Children's Health Defense (CHD) explains, vaccines are intentionally developed using cancer-causing genes that have been specifically modified for the development of cancerous tumors:
            1. bessmertniy
              bessmertniy 22 November 2019 08: 38 New
              -1
              A vaccine is always a lottery - either the body will survive, or it will not survive. recourse And the side effect is unconditional, because in reality you will either get the same flu or not, and vaccinations are injected almost without exception.
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 22 November 2019 09: 29 New
                +1
                Not everyone. For example, Bill Gates, who invests millions of dollars in the development and implementation of vaccines, does not vaccinate his children at all. bully
                1. Nick
                  Nick 22 November 2019 09: 49 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  Bill Gates, who invests millions of dollars in the development and implementation of vaccines, does not vaccinate his children at all.

                  There are no reliable primary sources of this statement. Ordinary hearing
                  1. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 22 November 2019 15: 16 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Nick
                    There are no reliable primary sources of this statement. Ordinary hearing

                    Interview with Western media personal doctor Gates.
                    1. Nick
                      Nick 22 November 2019 15: 20 New
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                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      Quote: Nick
                      There are no reliable primary sources of this statement. Ordinary hearing

                      Interview with Western media personal doctor Gates.

                      I thought so. Normal chatter. He probably also paid well for the interview.
                      1. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 22 November 2019 15: 25 New
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                        Why chatter? Gates himself did not refute.
                      2. Nick
                        Nick 22 November 2019 15: 27 New
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                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Why chatter? Gates himself did not refute.

                        And why not? You can’t put a scarf on every mouth, says a wise Russian proverb.
                      3. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 22 November 2019 15: 45 New
                        +1
                        You are a strange person. The information voiced by the family’s personal physician is called idle talk; you justify the absence of a refutation by Russian proverbs. I’m wondering, what arguments would you convince? Gates statement? So who will say this when part of his business is vaccine-based?
                      4. Nick
                        Nick 22 November 2019 20: 22 New
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                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Gates statement? So who will say this when part of his business is vaccine-based?

                        What about vaccinations? Plague epidemics that destroyed more than half of Europe's population were defeated by vaccination, smallpox, polio, mumps, tetanus, measles, whooping cough, rubella, and this is an incomplete list of serious and often fatal diseases defeated by vaccination. I am amazed at the number of posts written clearly not from a great mind that are directed against vaccinating the population and protecting it from deadly viruses.
                      5. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 24 November 2019 10: 15 New
                        +1
                        The plague was not defeated by vaccination. Smallpox yes. But you should not sing praises to all vaccinations in a row - many do more harm than good, while some are generally useless. Yes, some vaccinations are really needed, but they need to be done only according to individual indications, and not herd, without regard to the individual characteristics of the body.
            2. Liam
              Liam 24 November 2019 10: 24 New
              +1
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Interview with Western Media Personal Doctor Gates

              Do you seriously think that the doctor will disseminate information about his patients in the media? He will cease to be a doctor instantly for disclosing such data. And not only regarding Gates, but any of his patients. Can you give me a direct link to the interview?
        2. bar
          bar 22 November 2019 10: 09 New
          +2
          Bill Gates, who invests millions of dollars in the development and implementation of vaccines, does not vaccinate his children at all.

          He can afford to vaccinate all the other children so that they cannot infect his children.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 22 November 2019 15: 17 New
            +1
            Quote: bar
            He can afford to vaccinate all the other children so that they cannot infect his children.

            And on the side effects of other people's children, he does not care.
  2. Baloo
    Baloo 22 November 2019 09: 15 New
    +6
    Quote: Uncle Lee
    Quote: Hunter 2
    IMPORTED production ???

    But this is the most important question !!!!!!

    Now everyone has forgotten how the USSR saved Japan from the poliomyelitis epidemic by supplying polio vaccine free of charge.
  • APES
    APES 22 November 2019 09: 01 New
    +2
    Now the question is ..

    There is an answer: even in school, a talented microbiologist takes a pencil as soon as he lights up in some kind of Olympiad - there are cases when the parents of such a nugget make such an offer that they leave immediately without even having sucked their suitcases
    1. Nick
      Nick 22 November 2019 20: 32 New
      +1
      Quote: APES
      Now the question is ..

      There is an answer: even in school, a talented microbiologist takes a pencil as soon as he lights up in some kind of Olympiad - there are cases when the parents of such a nugget make such an offer that they leave immediately without even having sucked their suitcases

      The main supplier of vaccines for the calendar is Nacimbio, a member of Rostec. Since 2015, by order of the government, it has been supplying 18 from 22 with the international nonproprietary names of vaccines from 12 included in the vaccination schedule. All vaccines from Natsimbio are made in Russia. And the production subsidiary of Natsimbio, NPO Microgen, became the leader in vaccine production in physical terms with a share of 2017% in 31,6.
  • Nick
    Nick 22 November 2019 09: 43 New
    +1
    Quote: Hunter 2
    And now the question .... why the majority of vaccines that are given to our children are IMPORTED production ???

    And now the question: and why?
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 22 November 2019 09: 44 New
    0
    Quote: Hunter 2
    And now the question .... why the majority of the vaccines that are given to our children are IMPORTED?

    A vaccine against tuberculosis was used in Nigeria a couple of decades ago, the consequences were terrible. India, China and other countries also learned a lesson. And the neighbors in the 2008 year from the vaccine against chicken flu also had big losses.
  • Sotskiy
    Sotskiy 22 November 2019 11: 22 New
    0
    Quote: Hunter 2
    For our children - IMPORTED production

    What do you have in mind? Pharmaceutical enterprises located in the Russian Federation, owned by foreign owners? If so, then how do they differ from the FP of the same owners located in other parts of the world? wink
  • Elephant
    Elephant 22 November 2019 11: 14 New
    0
    Quote: Uncle Lee
    Georgians began to get sick more often and die from unknown diseases!

    Well, who is their doctor ...?
  • g1washntwn
    g1washntwn 22 November 2019 11: 57 New
    +1
    The sharp rise in oncology, too, can only be attributed to environmental degradation as being very naive.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 22 November 2019 18: 46 New
      -1
      We have a real source of oncology - we have inhaled the numerous automobile vehicles that have removed catalyzers, all the oxides and heavy metals from the engine in the air.
  • APES
    APES 22 November 2019 08: 54 New
    +7
    biological laboratories.

    To me, one honored biologist, in the 90's, on New Year’s Eve, under the glass said: "If the war starts, you won’t even notice it."
    And so, as an example - in the First World War, the cause of most deaths was the "Spaniard" - how did it appear, how to walk around the world and how it disappeared?
    Do you remember bird flu? So it's a mate. The model - at what speed, where, etc. - will launch a new virus at hour x ....
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 22 November 2019 09: 17 New
      +1
      Quote: APES
      Do you remember bird flu?

      Most of the dead are people of the yellow race. People of the white race-unit.
    2. Nick
      Nick 22 November 2019 09: 52 New
      +1
      Quote: APES
      To me, one honored biologist, in the 90's, on New Year’s Eve, under the glass said: "If the war starts, you won’t even notice it."
      And so, as an example - in the First World War, the cause of most deaths was the "Spaniard" - how did it appear, how to walk around the world and how it disappeared?

      That's it! Around the world swept! To use viruses against the enemy means to substitute yourself.
      1. APES
        APES 22 November 2019 10: 31 New
        +1
        it means to substitute yourself.

        This is not about that, I will give one quote:
        Academician Nikita Moiseev: "the way out of the impending global environmental crisis is primarily to limit birth rates and bring the number of earthlings to one billion the most worthy people. That is how many people can exist in the Earth’s biosphere without destroying it"
        Those who will make the decision, there will be no opponents - all actions will be coordinated to achieve the goal.
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 22 November 2019 09: 39 New
    +1
    Quote: Victor_B
    They are engaged in purely peaceful programs.
    From their words. And gentlemen are supposed to take a word!
    This is the purest development of biological weapons. An example already exists, the creation of "killer bees", and the Janus talk about this without hiding. What this experiment will lead scientists can not say.
  • Berkut24
    Berkut24 22 November 2019 10: 10 New
    0
    There are mysterious American biological laboratories in Georgia and Ukraine.

    This is not a surprise, because these laboratories are available in all countries that are partners of the United States. By the way, in Ukraine there are 4 of these laboratories, in Georgia 2. The Americans believe that if the development of forbidden weapons does not web on their territory, then they do not violate anything. As with secret prisons in the territory of these partners.
  • Aerodrome
    Aerodrome 22 November 2019 06: 42 New
    +16
    as a child, the grandfather in the village told me: I caught ticks and horseradish with them, the grandmother will pull out in the evening ... and if there are a lot of mosquitoes, then there will be a lot of berries, which means game. and now damn it, this is all-weapon his mother. the farther the softer. recourse
    1. bessmertniy
      bessmertniy 22 November 2019 08: 08 New
      +2
      Today, second-rate countries and simply separate companies that do not advertise all their activities can afford these developments. So the threat that this whole host of developments will once get out of control is very real and this must be taken into account.
      1. 100502
        100502 22 November 2019 08: 21 New
        +5
        The most likely scenario for the end of humanity is a broken test tube.
        1. depressant
          depressant 22 November 2019 09: 07 New
          +3
          Mosquitoes ... Mosquitoes!
          Oh yes - that’s another problem! Last summer (or the year before last?) Was cold. The trees and grasses grew splendidly and joyfully, and mosquitoes appeared only occasionally, lethargic, feeble, almost did not bite. And it seemed that the end to them would not multiply ... And now, imagine this much colder, in the summer they, mutationally updated in just one unfavorable year, appeared en masse and rushed into the attack in clouds. Moreover, they bite everywhere - at home, on the street, in the store - try to hide! Large, angry, hungry, arrogant, they did not creep up quietly as before, but rushed into the attack either with the wild roar of a diving bomber, then with the howling of a falling bomb, then with a thin, almost ultrasonic range disgusting squeak and inflicted some kind of especially sore bites. As a distributor of deadly diseases - a good weapon! Only frost stopped them. How to stop the notorious Darpu? But she, like mosquitoes, is everywhere. Former "brothers" tried. How to stop the "brothers"?
          1. Baloo
            Baloo 22 November 2019 09: 19 New
            +9
            Quote: depressant
            Mosquitoes ... Mosquitoes!

            The mosquito, who bit the addict for another three hours, thought he was a fighter.
            1. Aerodrome
              Aerodrome 22 November 2019 09: 53 New
              +2
              Quote: Balu
              Quote: depressant
              Mosquitoes ... Mosquitoes!

              The mosquito, who bit the addict for another three hours, thought he was a fighter.

              laughing laughing laughing good
        2. Nick
          Nick 22 November 2019 09: 56 New
          0
          Quote: 100502
          The most likely scenario for the end of humanity is a broken test tube.

          Unlikely. The animal and human organisms adapt very quickly to viruses and poisons. An example of a rat. Why they are not only destroyed, but the population does not die, but only decreases, and only for a while.
    2. Vladimir
      Vladimir 22 November 2019 09: 45 New
      0
      That's the point, who previously paid attention to this.
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 22 November 2019 09: 47 New
      0
      Quote: Aerodrome
      and if there are many mosquitoes, then there will be many berries,

      The mosquito is small, and the bite is like an atomic bomb.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 22 November 2019 06: 50 New
    +6
    In fact, this is the development of what is called indirect lethal weapons, which can destroy crops in certain territories and spread pre-prepared viruses.

    The weapon has always been, is and will be, double-edged!
    How many books have been written, films made, so no, it does not convince anyone that the answer will ALWAYS arrive, in one form or another.
    1. Nick
      Nick 22 November 2019 09: 57 New
      +1
      Quote: rocket757
      The weapon has always been, is and will be, double-edged!
      How many books have been written, films made, so no, it does not convince anyone that the answer will ALWAYS arrive, in one form or another.

      Exactly! Recoil torment.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 22 November 2019 10: 15 New
        +1
        Quote: Nick
        Exactly! Recoil torment.

        Unfortunately, different balls are “played” with such forces and other dangers that they can fly and nail !!! Finally and without return.
        1. Nick
          Nick 22 November 2019 10: 16 New
          +1
          Quote: rocket757
          Quote: Nick
          Exactly! Recoil torment.

          Unfortunately, different balls are “played” with such forces and other dangers that they can fly and nail !!! Finally and without return.

          I agree with you. They look like a monkey with a grenade. They do not know what they are doing.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 22 November 2019 10: 29 New
            +1
            Quote: Nick
            They do not know what they are doing.

            The capitals are quite aware of what!
            Quote: Nick
            They look like a monkey with a grenade.

            And the grenade there may be the most lethal system!
  • Cryvedco
    Cryvedco 22 November 2019 07: 04 New
    +3
    Or maybe we already have a bang? Well, until they did something there? ..
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    2. Spambox
      Spambox 22 November 2019 08: 22 New
      +2
      You made my day)

      But seriously, in Florida, it’s already a condition close to an environmental disaster, there boas and boas brought in from Asia and escaped from the hosts have grown so much that they have devoured the entire local fauna, they have already begun to eat alligators, the climate is not suitable for enemies. Now they are not enough insects pumped. Zika virus has also been delivered to them, there are warning signs at all airports, the visibility of something else is not enough for itself.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 22 November 2019 09: 33 New
        +1
        Quote: Spambox
        Zika virus already

        Zika is generally a mystery virus, but even more mysterious is that all rights to it belong to the Rockefeller Foundation.
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 22 November 2019 09: 49 New
        0
        Quote: Spambox
        something else is missing on your head.

        And to the place where they sit.
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 22 November 2019 07: 15 New
    +4
    These developments have been going on since the time when mankind realized that a little steam can do more harm than from a sword and arrow. They are many hundreds of years old, just now we use more sophisticated laboratories, the level of informativeness has grown by orders of magnitude. ...
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 22 November 2019 07: 47 New
    +6
    Even in the Middle Ages, and even earlier, a fortress that did not give up could be thrown with all sorts of rubbish, with the aim of causing an epidemic.
    And you see, the "striped-eared gentlemen" have already crossed the border of good and evil? Are you afraid of answers?
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 22 November 2019 09: 53 New
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      And you see, the "striped-eared gentlemen" have already crossed the border of good and evil? Are you afraid of answers?

      When a “kamikaze", laden with explosives, rushes under the tank, he does not think about who bit him, a scorpion or a malaria mosquito.
  • Dimy4
    Dimy4 22 November 2019 08: 01 New
    +3
    Insect allies! And they will sign an agreement with the states or what? Engaging in such research is dangerous for both alleged enemies and researchers. Borders such things do not have.
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 22 November 2019 08: 08 New
      +10
      Quote: Dimy4
      Doing such research is dangerous both for alleged enemies and for researchers.

      It’s dangerous at home, but on the other hemisphere ... When will these mosquitoes, or who else fly across the ocean?
      What excites me most of all is that Georgia do not allow specialists from Russia to inspect these laboratories. Here, at the slightest suspicion, it is necessary to do as it is done in the USA - to show the tube in the UN and thermobaric ... by the very colza.
    2. bar
      bar 22 November 2019 10: 14 New
      0
      Borders such things do not have.

      Stripes hope to sit out on their island
  • Galleon
    Galleon 22 November 2019 09: 58 New
    0
    Involuntarily with these mosquitoes you will recall A.S., Pushkin: "Russian cold is useful to my health ..."
    In fact, a mosquito can hardly be considered a weapon capable of deciding the outcome of a war if any repellent drives it away from a person. The female lifespan at 20 degrees is about 45 days. With a database locally and suddenly in a particular area, serious efficacy can be obtained. Rather, such a weapon seems to be a long-term means of quietly reducing the population (at least of its own, even of someone else's), no matter how vile and cynical it sounds. If vaccines have cancer genes, then why not mosquitoes. sad
  • Vladimir
    Vladimir 22 November 2019 10: 03 New
    0
    It seems like a trifle topic, but in ten years maybe a mosquito will be more dangerous than a bullet.
  • eklmn
    eklmn 22 November 2019 18: 49 New
    +1
    As Kozma Prutkov said - See the root.
    And in the words of Lenin: “Learn English - exuded knowledge. And money ... ”
    Here is the original article by DARPA (2016):
    https://www.darpa.mil/news-events/2016-10-19
    “The new program aims to deliver insect protective genes for modification of mature plants during one growing season.” (i.e. one year only).
    “Farmers and other plant health officials use long-standing tools such as crop rotation, selection, pesticides, burn cleaners and quarantines to shelter plants and protect against the worst effects of pathogens, pests and environmental influences, but these methods may be slow, inefficient and environmentally harmful, and may require extensive and expensive infrastructure. Although scientists and farmers are increasingly turning to molecular methods to increase the resistance of plant varieties, modern genomic tools, as a rule, do not allow changes in mature plants.
    The new DARPA program is ready to provide an alternative to the traditional response to the agricultural threat, using targeted gene therapy to protect mature plants during one growing season. DARPA proposes the use of a natural and highly efficient two-stage delivery system for the transfer of modified genes to plants: insect vectors and the plant viruses they transmit. In the process, DARPA seeks to turn certain insect pests into “Insect Allies,” the name of the new effort. ”
    “One of the most effective plant protection methods available - the selective propagation of disease resistance - usually involves five to seven years of work to identify the appropriate protective genes and another 10 years or more to spread the desired traits in plant populations. Allies of insects aim to achieve expression of desired traits within one season. The performers will be tasked with developing compatible systems of naturally occurring plant viruses, herbivorous insects and target crops, and then genetically tuning these systems to maximize the transmission and absorption of traits throughout the target plant population with zero transmission to non-target plants.
    “Genetic modification of plants has historically been carried out only for planting embryos inside laboratories using tissue cultures,” said Bextin. “A massive transformation of mature plants would be a huge achievement and pave the way for future breakthroughs in agriculture.”
    In short, another topic for Russian healers on TV, another topic for Russian household gossip ....
    1. sharp-lad
      sharp-lad 22 November 2019 21: 44 New
      0
      Almost all biotechnologies are dual-use technologies. A special piquancy to such reports is given by the too close location of some Pentagon bio-laboratories to the borders of Russia.
      1. eklmn
        eklmn 23 November 2019 00: 02 New
        -1
        In October 2018, Moscow blamed the United States for the death of 73 people due to a bio lab in Georgia.
        https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2018/10/05/moscow-accuses-us-73-deaths-biolab-near-southern-russia-a63094
        “From 2016 to 2017, 73 volunteers died from test drugs”
        An interesting coincidence - the day before, the United States, England and Holland accused Russia of a global hacker attack.

        And here is the latest news:
        “Armenia allowed Russia access to US sponsored biolab”
        https://eurasianet.org/armenia-to-open-doors-of-us-built-biolabs-to-russia
        “Laboratories have been a favorite target of Russian state-owned media. Now, with a new agreement with Yerevan, Moscow should get full access. ”
        “Armenia is going to provide Russia with constant access to its Pentagon-sponsored biological laboratories, a constant source of propaganda and paranoia in Moscow. Access can give the Kremlin peace of mind about American laboratories in the South Caucasus and potentially ruin Russia's beloved anti-American theory of the germ war plot.
        The influential Russian newspaper Kommersant reported on October 25 that Moscow and Yerevan were about to sign a memorandum allowing Russian medical and military officials to monitor the work of US-sponsored biological laboratories in Armenia. ”
        “The Kremlin has long been using the story of US-supported biolabs in its area, claiming that the Pentagon uses microbes in its armaments for a potential biological and chemical attack on Russia. Moscow helped spread seasonal outbreaks of fear in its state news, supplementing with dark reports of suspicious deaths of people and animals in the immediate vicinity of the laboratories. Washington did its best to reassure Moscow, arguing that laboratories exist to study and prevent epidemiological threats. ”
        By the way, I missed something, because I did not find this news (about the Yerevan biolab) in Russian. Most likely, Moscow really does not want to part with paranoia.
        1. sharp-lad
          sharp-lad 23 November 2019 17: 57 New
          0
          I do not know about Moscow paranoia, but I know about state sadism. And remembering the deeds of these "humanists", besides having their bio lab at their side in captivity will become paranoid. hi
  • eklmn
    eklmn 23 November 2019 18: 07 New
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    Quote: sharp-lad
    I don’t know about Moscow paranoia, but I know about state sadism

    Do you have any victims of “state sadism” in your family? And you yourself? That's the same.
    A very small number of Nob. laureates in Russia can be called "state sadism"? You can, because the gene pool has degenerated due to sanctions (joke!).
    Learn English - a source of knowledge, and google the originals. Free your ears from noodles ...