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Tests ship Ka-52K continue after the definition of the carrier

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Tests ship Ka-52K continue after the definition of the carrier

The supply of Ka-52K Katran shipboard helicopters is provided for by the current state armament program, so work on them will continue. This was announced by the head of the Rostec air cluster Anatoly Serdyukov in an interview with Interfax.


According to Serdyukov, four prototypes of the Ka-52K Katran shipboard helicopter have now been manufactured, which have already passed the entire cycle of ground tests and are located at Kamov’s base and are ready to continue testing. However, there is no possibility to continue testing, since there are no carriers for these helicopters.

(...) four prototypes of Ka-52K, which are now at the Kamov base and are ready to continue testing. But carriers are needed that are not yet defined. The project is being discussed with the Ministry of Defense; further work is planned. In the state armament program (GPV) until 2027, the delivery of Ka-52K is provided

- said Serdyukov.

Recall that in August of this year, the CEO of Russian Helicopters Holding Andrey Boginsky said that the ground part of the tests of four prototypes of the Ka-52K Katran was completed and negotiations were underway with the Ministry of Defense to conclude a contract to continue R&D on this topic.

Initially, the decked version of the Ka-52K was designed for the French Mistral type landing helicopters, but now, according to Boginsky, these helicopters need to be tied to another ship, which will be done only when the Ministry of Defense finally determines the concept of attack helicopters in the Navy navy.

The CEO also said that the ship version of Ka-52K was made with a folding column of blades, the blades are folded back along the helicopter body, which will help to place it in ship hangars, limited in area.
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  1. Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 21 November 2019 10: 58 New
    +8
    Fir-trees - Needles .... well, if Serdyukov said crying crying - Everything is lost!
    But the unsinkable ... more precisely - does not sink! am
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 21 November 2019 11: 09 New
      +4
      it is necessary to tie these helicopters to another ship

      Correct if I am mistaken: it seems that the UDC can carry "Katrans"? recourse
      1. Spartanez300
        Spartanez300 21 November 2019 11: 14 New
        +7
        That's the dilemma, there are helicopters and no carriers.
        And the same Mistral is not an option for Egypt to outbid.
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 21 November 2019 11: 20 New
          +3
          Quote: Spartanez300
          And the same Mistral is not an option for Egypt to outbid.

          This will be the most powerful blow to the prestige of the "self-chosen" ... Or, using connections with Macron, you can try to order again ... lol What if it works out?
          1. New Year day
            New Year day 21 November 2019 11: 36 New
            +1
            Maybe the Egyptians?
            Quote: ROSS 42
            This will be the most powerful blow to prestige.
            1. Ross xnumx
              Ross xnumx 21 November 2019 11: 48 New
              +3
              Quote: Silvestr
              Maybe the Egyptians?
              Quote: ROSS 42
              This will be the most powerful blow to prestige.

              Sylvester! Good health!
              I will not be upset if both the Egyptians and the Russians fill the basket with "gifts" for mattresses together ... even if at different times ...
              After all, if you look, France tore up the contract at the urgent demand of whom? Correctly! Let correct the situation and return lost profits.
              1. New Year day
                New Year day 21 November 2019 11: 56 New
                +2
                Quote: ROSS 42
                Good health!

                Thank! Same to you! And we don’t have to wait anymore, they were built under our equipment, ours did fine-tuning and then - why do they need Egypt?
                1. Ross xnumx
                  Ross xnumx 21 November 2019 11: 59 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  And we don’t have to wait anymore, they were built under our equipment, ours did fine-tuning and then - why do they need Egypt?

                  Correctly! It is necessary to agree - they are the Mistrals to us, we are Russian tourists and regular air supply ... good
                  Let them make out like scrap metal ... lol
      2. tlauicol
        tlauicol 21 November 2019 11: 14 New
        +3
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        it is necessary to tie these helicopters to another ship

        Correct if I am mistaken: it seems that the UDC can carry "Katrans"? recourse

        Of course they can. only they are not
      3. Spartanez300
        Spartanez300 21 November 2019 11: 17 New
        +3
        According to media reports for September 2019 - “Two UDCs with a displacement of up to 15 thousand tons are planned for the first time in Russian history at the Zaliv shipyard in Kerch in May 2020, and the lead ship is scheduled to be handed over to the fleet before the completion of the current state armament program, that is, until the end of 2027. The ships will be able to carry more than 10 helicopters of various classes on board, and also receive a large docking chamber for landing boats. ” The aviation group includes up to 16 Ka-29 landing helicopters, Ka-27 anti-submarine helicopters, or Ka-52K attack helicopters.
        1. Flooding
          Flooding 21 November 2019 11: 22 New
          +7
          Quote: Spartanez300
          According to media reports for September 2019 - “Two UDCs with a displacement of up to 15 thousand tons are planned for the first time in Russian history at the Zaliv shipyard in Kerch in May 2020

          Recently there was news that they stopped at VI 25 thousand tons. And, if not mistaken, 20 aircraft on board.

          Exactly, in
          https://topwar.ru/164817-v-vmf-rf-okonchatelno-opredelilis-s-parametrami-zakladyvaemyh-udk.html
          1. Herman 4223
            Herman 4223 21 November 2019 15: 03 New
            0
            It is almost like an aircraft carrier in scale. If this ship is laid and built, and even two, it will be a real achievement. Still destroyers laid for the fleet, and then who will accompany these UDC.
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  2. Obi-Wan Kenobi
    Obi-Wan Kenobi 21 November 2019 11: 10 New
    +2
    And why can not be tested on a ship on which the presence of a helicopter was originally provided?
    On a destroyer, for example, or some frigate ...
    Or have such ships also ended with us?
    1. NKT
      NKT 21 November 2019 11: 16 New
      +10
      They were tested already at Kuznetsov and Gorshkov. Now you need to test them directly on the "native".

      Ka-52K on Gorshkov.

      Ka-52K on Kuznetsovo
    2. Chaldon48
      Chaldon48 21 November 2019 11: 18 New
      +1
      Obi WanKenobi, we are in many ways at the beginning of the journey. Here's how to get started!
    3. jonht
      jonht 21 November 2019 11: 32 New
      +1
      Most likely there are no elevators and hangars are smaller in size on cruisers and destroyers. Adela needs a full test cycle.
      1. URAL72
        URAL72 21 November 2019 11: 39 New
        +4
        Cruisers and destroyers need an anti-submarine variant, and Katran is to support the landing.
      2. alexmach
        alexmach 22 November 2019 01: 14 New
        +1
        There is a magic ship 22160, which is not entirely clear where to attach .. And there is a hangar, and even an elevator - try it - I don’t want to.
    4. New Year day
      New Year day 21 November 2019 11: 37 New
      +2
      Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi

      And why can not be tested on a ship on which the presence of a helicopter was originally provided?

      Perhaps the physical dimensions of the new helicopters are different from the sizes of the old
      1. Obi-Wan Kenobi
        Obi-Wan Kenobi 21 November 2019 11: 41 New
        -1
        Of course they differ, but in a smaller direction.
        The dimensions of the Ka-32 and Ka-52 look.
    5. donavi49
      donavi49 21 November 2019 12: 17 New
      +1
      Well - in general, and did not start.

      The main ships from the corvette (2038X) to the missile cruiser (1164) - carry the 1 helicopter. Ka-52 is not needed there and is harmful. For you need Ka-27PS / PL. And in the distant always go with the PS. For he is needed.

      BOD carry 2 helicopter. But there, not everything is good with the hangar base precisely under Ka-52.

      As a result, the real carrier is only Kuzya. And perhaps Peter / Nakhimov - but they do not need him, but rather harmful. For you have to throw out the RC / AWACS or PLC.
      1. Obi-Wan Kenobi
        Obi-Wan Kenobi 21 November 2019 12: 55 New
        -1
        Ka-52 there is not needed and harmful.

        Yes, it is clear that it is not needed.
        No one is going to base them on the Ka-52.
        But you can experience it. What is the difference with what to take off (at least from a barge) or which helicopter in the hangar to service?
        1. jonht
          jonht 21 November 2019 14: 10 New
          0
          And the meaning, without a full cycle of all manipulations, with the descent and ascent and so on. It can probably land and take off from any ship where the Ka-32 could land. And here you still need many more moments of movement on the vessel itself, and obviously not on the one where the hangar is for one, because there are 4 pieces, that they need to be placed and serviced in one hangar, and there is precisely no such vessel. And there are no lifts. (I do not consider Kuzyu for repair and, apparently, for a long time).
  3. Whisper
    Whisper 21 November 2019 11: 28 New
    +3
    He informed Serdyukov, according to Seryukov, said Serdyukov ... here is the backlight.
  4. Pavel57
    Pavel57 21 November 2019 11: 37 New
    0
    The main concept. But what about Egypt?
  5. Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 21 November 2019 11: 42 New
    +2
    It seems like they were planning to deliver to the Egyptian ones - they had hangars specially for them ... it is not clear
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 21 November 2019 11: 58 New
      +2
      Quote: Stirbjorn
      It seems like they were planning to deliver to the Egyptian ones - they had hangars specially made for them.


      What are we talking about! Do not sell, so take a concession
  6. Jack O'Neill
    Jack O'Neill 21 November 2019 12: 09 New
    -1
    We need our own "America." I'm talking about UDC.
    There Ka-52K will feel good, and a decent amount will be. But, unfortunately, we will not have such a UDC.
  7. Dikson
    Dikson 21 November 2019 12: 43 New
    0
    Sorry for the offtopic, but he is also about testing .. - Yesterday, Elon Musk exploded on his tests his shiny rocket from science fiction films of the 60s of the last century ..
  8. kventinasd
    kventinasd 21 November 2019 13: 23 New
    -1
    Tests ship Ka-52K continue after the definition of the carrier

    It's funny to read similar headlines.
    With the Mistrals, they crap so much (like, but we don’t need it) that now we can’t wash ourselves for a long time, but with a term of up to 27 years, our self-chosen ones can only dream in wet dreams.
  9. Victorio
    Victorio 21 November 2019 13: 30 New
    +2
    Reported it Head of Rostec Aviation Cluster Anatoly Serdyukov
    ===
    I immediately want to swear, somehow