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The Russian military police will be equipped with ATVs

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The Russian military police will be equipped with ATVs

Units of the military police of the Russian Federation will receive ATVs, the first deliveries are expected in 2020 year. This was reported by TASS with reference to a statement by the Deputy Chief of the Main Directorate of the Military Police of the RF Ministry of Defense Major General Vitaly Kokh.


According to the general, the military police will be equipped with ATVs, but not everywhere, but only in those areas where there is a need for their use. Currently, this equipment is being used to supply the military police, deliveries to units will begin next year.

ATVs are not needed everywhere, only in certain areas. Special operations forces are already equipped with them in the north and in other specific regions, and we plan to use them at home. Now they are accepted for supply, and in the future, I think, we will use them as necessary. We assume that in 2020 year

- said the deputy chief.

Koch explained that ATVs are a technique with high traffic and it is planned to use it to perform specific tasks, but not in large quantities. At the same time, the main equipment of military police units, especially in Syria, will remain Typhoon and Tiger armored vehicles.

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  1. Lopatov
    Lopatov 21 November 2019 10: 37
    +11
    Ambets.
    Initially, the great idea of ​​creating a military police was perverted beyond recognition.
    1. Flooding
      Flooding 21 November 2019 10: 40
      +3
      No problem.
      You can also introduce the institution of military gendarmerie and give it the original authority of the military police.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 21 November 2019 10: 41
        0
        Quote: Flood
        No problem.
        You can also introduce the institution of military gendarmerie and give it the original authority of the military police.

        laughing laughing laughing
        1. the most important
          the most important 21 November 2019 11: 11
          +2
          Quote: Spade

          But to test this solution is necessary for those who came up with it. Put in a stroller and in Syria belay , under a hail of stones and Molotov cocktails. Here I am becoming more and more convinced that many decision-makers are simply sick on the head fool (the moderator will not like a more precise definition and the mustard plaster will fly again). Here is another proof that not everything is so rosy in the army, if there are such commanders with such decisions.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 21 November 2019 11: 15
            +10
            Quote: the most important
            Put in a stroller and in Syria

            They have nothing to do in Syria.
            The idea of ​​a military police has long been hovering. Its function is to ensure law and order in the Armed Forces, and not in hot spots to patrol routes instead of infantry.

            Some nonsense turns out. The infantry instead of the air force is investigating, the air force is patrolling instead of the infantry. Marasmus.
            1. Shurik70
              Shurik70 21 November 2019 18: 32
              +1
              military police will be equipped with ATVs, but not everywhere, but only in areas where there is a need for their use

              Naturally, not where stones are thrown at patrols. And even more so not where they shoot.
              1. Alf
                Alf 21 November 2019 21: 14
                0
                Quote: Shurik70
                Naturally, not where stones are thrown at patrols. And even more so not where they shoot.

                Where is it ?
      2. cost
        cost 21 November 2019 11: 00
        +2
        Lopatov (Lopatov): Ambets. Initially, the great idea of ​​creating a military police was perverted beyond recognition.

        Well, not a bad idea. For violators in the yards and copses chasing. You can’t imagine any better. A pack of detainees in UAZ, nak and earlier
        1. parkello
          parkello 21 November 2019 12: 35
          +4
          it is even possible for certain people to give off-road motorcycles. I had Wy-Zet Yamaha. 80cc in the beginning then took 125. you can’t imagine a better horse to drive a beard. especially when you need to quickly catch up with someone. it’s just that they’re eating gasoline not in a childish way, but if you take fuel of 2–3 litas to hook onto the tank with rubber buckles, you’ll quite imagine it. in such a way, you can catch any jeep in two snouts and hide the jihadmobk ... and from the grenade launcher the second one from behind will send him to the guria.
      3. Terenin
        Terenin 21 November 2019 11: 03
        +3
        Quote: Flood
        No problem.
        You can also introduce the institution of military gendarmerie and give it the original authority of the military police.

        Anyone familiar with the history of the Russian gendarmerie knows that not everyone could get into the ranks of the officers of the gendarme corps, and its effectiveness was quite high ...
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 21 November 2019 11: 16
          +1
          That's not the point. The fact. that the Military Police was originally created for something completely different.
          1. dvina71
            dvina71 21 November 2019 11: 37
            +4
            Quote: Spade
            The fact. that the Military Police was originally created for something completely different.

            From the Charter of the Armed Forces of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation

            31. The specifics of the performance of bodies and (or) military police in the territory of a foreign state are established by an international agreement between the Russian Federation and the state in whose territory they are deployed.
            7) participation in ensuring regimes of emergency, martial law and the legal regime of counter-terrorism operations and the application of measures and time restrictions, including the protection of public order and public safety, carried out in accordance with federal laws, this Charter and other regulatory legal acts of the Russian Federation Federation in the territory in which a state of emergency or martial law is introduced or a counter-terrorist operation is carried out;
            38. The areas of activity, functions and powers of the military police during the period of direct threat of aggression and during wartime are determined by federal constitutional laws, federal laws, other regulatory legal acts of the Russian Federation and the Military Regulations of the Military Police of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, approved by the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation.

            http://www.consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_LAW_177125/f709905c40ee7024c0b4f091aca4615c7476cfc7/
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 21 November 2019 11: 56
              +1
              Quote: dvina71
              From the Charter of the Armed Forces of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation

              This means nothing. Quite the contrary, if delirium made its way into the Charter, this is even worse.
              1. dvina71
                dvina71 21 November 2019 12: 00
                +2
                Quote: Spade
                Quite the contrary, if delirium made its way into the Charter, this is even worse.

                Well, in your opinion, this is nonsense, but nevertheless the functionality is registered in the Charter .. and as we see the EP for this, including,. and created ..
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 21 November 2019 12: 06
                  -1
                  Quote: dvina71
                  Well, in your opinion, this is nonsense

                  This is not in my opinion nonsense, it's just nonsense.

                  When the investigations are carried out by freelance "interrogators" of two-year lieutenants (even for very serious crimes like terrorism), and the Military Police performs the function of the commandant service. Which was always hung on the infantry, and she coped with it quite well
                  1. dvina71
                    dvina71 21 November 2019 12: 17
                    +2
                    Quote: Spade
                    When the investigations are carried out by freelance "interrogators" of two-year lieutenants (even for very serious crimes like terrorism), and the Military Police performs the function of the commandant service

                    Read the Charter further ..
                    Implementation by the heads of the military police
                    powers of the inquiry body

                    181. When exercising the powers of an inquiry body, the head of the military police body is guided by the criminal, criminal procedure legislation of the Russian Federation and other regulatory legal acts of the Russian Federation.
                    184. Based on the results of the audit and if there is sufficient data indicating signs of a crime for which a preliminary investigation is necessary, and if necessary, urgent investigative actions are required to detect and record the traces of the crime, as well as if there is evidence requiring immediate fixation, seizure and investigation , the head of the military police body, within the competence established by the criminal procedure legislation of the Russian Federation, initiates a criminal case and performs urgent investigative actions, after which he sends the criminal case to the head of the military investigative body.

                    Military investigative bodies ..
                    Article 38. System of military investigative bodies of the Investigative Committee

                    1. Military investigative bodies of the Investigative Committee exercise their powers in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, other troops, military units and bodies in which military service is provided for by federal law.
                    1.1. The system of military investigative bodies of the Investigative Committee is composed of the Main Military Investigative Directorate of the Investigative Committee, military investigative departments of the Investigative Committee for military districts, fleets and other military investigative departments of the Investigative Committee, equivalent to the main investigative departments and investigative departments of the Investigative Committee for the constituent entities of the Russian Federation, military investigative departments by associations, formations, garrisons and other military investigative departments of the Investigative Committee, equated to the investigative departments and investigative departments of the Investigative Committee for districts and cities.


                    There is no infantry anymore .. there are motorized rifles .., are you suggesting that they replace the VP soldiers? To study some more Laws and Statutes? For what?
                    1. Lopatov
                      Lopatov 21 November 2019 12: 26
                      -3
                      Quote: dvina71
                      The infantry is no longer ..

                      laughing laughing laughing

                      Quote: dvina71
                      offer them to replace VP fighters

                      No, it is you who consider the reverse replacement normal.

                      When a cool "warrior VP" on an ATV replaces a motorized rifle platoon, reinforced by a tank.
                      1. dvina71
                        dvina71 21 November 2019 12: 30
                        +2
                        Quote: Spade
                        When a cool "warrior VP" on an ATV replaces a motorized rifle platoon, reinforced by a tank.

                        Where? As far as I remember .. last time the clash between the air forces and the militants was a dull defense and waiting for the MP and MTR on the armor .. Nobody on the quad rushed to punish the black and green ...
                        No, it is you who consider the reverse replacement normal.

                        Why do you think so?
                      2. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 21 November 2019 12: 33
                        -3
                        Quote: dvina71
                        Where? As far as I remember .. last time the clash between the air forces and the militants was a dull defense and waiting for the MP and MTR on the armor .. Nobody on the quad rushed to punish the black and green ...

                        Do you read an article under which you start posting?
                      3. dvina71
                        dvina71 21 November 2019 12: 39
                        +2
                        Quote: Spade
                        Do you read an article under which you start posting?

                        YES I read .. Give the light infantry, which in essence is the VP light vehicle .. what's wrong?
                        The speed is good, crawls where only prepared cars will crawl .. I don’t understand .. how did you connect the arrival of the quadrics with the inappropriate throwing of them into battle? SO they have different functionality .. not?
                      4. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 21 November 2019 14: 34
                        +1
                        Quote: dvina71
                        Give the light infantry, which is essentially the VP

                        laughing laughing laughing

                        Exactly. Instead of doing law and order in the RY AF, they "are essentially infantry"
                        What is the highest meaning of creating a certain "OMON" as part of the RF Armed Forces?
                        Let me guess ... apparently the military commanders from the RF Ministry of Defense profess a religion that does not allow organizing normal infantry training. That is why all these "VP battalions", "special forces battalions", "engineering assault battalions" appear. As well as "parallel Land Forces" - that is, the Airborne Forces.
                      5. dvina71
                        dvina71 21 November 2019 19: 40
                        -1
                        Quote: Spade
                        ... That's why all these "VP battalions", "special forces battalions", "engineering and assault battalions

                        You have surprised me now ... That is, the creation of an engineering assault special forces is a stick-and-frock fighting? Did I understand correctly? the pilots, in your opinion, defended Stalingrad, hacked Koenigsberg ... did I understand correctly?
                      6. strannik1985
                        strannik1985 21 November 2019 20: 08
                        +1
                        Koenigsberg

                        Koenigsberg was stormed by 4 combined arms armies, namely, assault combat engineer brigades were 3 in 26 assault detachments and 104 assault groups. They (and other sappers-10 engineering-sapper brigades, 2 motorized engineering brigades, a pontoon brigade, 7 separate flamethrower battalions, a FOG company, 5 separate companies of knapsack flamethrowers) were sent to the infantry to perform specific sapper functions (barrage, smoke, flamethrowers).
                      7. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 21 November 2019 20: 36
                        +1
                        Quote: dvina71
                        You have surprised me now ... That is, the creation of an engineering assault special forces is a stick-and-frock fighting? Did I understand correctly?

                        It is intended.

                        Quote: dvina71
                        the pilots, in your opinion, defended Stalingrad, hacked Koenigsberg ... did I understand correctly?

                        No, in my opinion stick-keepers are in the Russian Defense Ministry. And they are not capable of defending anything.

                        If we are talking about the engineering and assault brigades created in the autumn of 1943 (which, damn it, Stalingrad), this was a forced decision in the conditions of war and mass mobilization. Applying such measures in peacetime INSTEAD of normal infantry training is at least a strange decision. If not worse.
                      8. dvina71
                        dvina71 21 November 2019 20: 41
                        -2
                        Quote: Spade
                        If we are talking about those created in the fall of 1943 (which, damn it, Stalingrad)

                        You surprised me again .... The brigades mean they were created from scratch ... during the war .. huh ... why would I experiment with it.?.
                        Shovels .. are you like an adequate guest? But so do not know the history of the army of his country ...
                      9. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 21 November 2019 20: 45
                        +1
                        Quote: dvina71
                        Brigades means they created from scratch ... during the war ... huh ... why would I experiment with it.?.

                        In fact, yes. Do you know what was most important in their formation? Of these, all those over 40 were transferred to other units. And then they began to be trained. Not all, namely them. Since the war did not allow for a long time to detach a large number of infantry.
                      10. dvina71
                        dvina71 21 November 2019 21: 01
                        -1
                        Quote: Spade
                        Do you know what was most important in their formation?

                        That the first ISHBS appeared in May 43, and not in the fall. Prior to this, engineering assault teams were used in Stalingrad ... mine clearance and demolition teams ... if more precisely. Back in the fall of 41, there was an order of the rate regarding engineering engineer units, and it was then that work began, which culminated in the creation of ISHBS .. Again, on the experience of the assault groups of the Finnish company. And now I don’t understand .. why are you in the composition of the RF Armed Forces not happy with the engineering special forces?
                      11. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 21 November 2019 21: 19
                        +1
                        Quote: dvina71
                        Before that, engineering assault teams were used in Stalingrad

                        Do not try to pull the owl on the globe. The date of creation of specialized combat engineer assault units is known.

                        Quote: dvina71
                        Again, the experience of the assault groups of the Finnish company.

                        You "forgot" a little nuance. These groups, like their real prototype that appeared in the First World War, were created on the basis of infantry units.

                        Quote: dvina71
                        And now I don’t understand .. why are you in the composition of the RF Armed Forces not happy with the engineering special forces?

                        Stupidity does not suit. When, instead of training the infantry, they portray work. "recreating" temporary solutions from the war.

                        Question: how many assault engineering and combat brigades were part of the Soviet Army in 1946? Right, not a single one. Guess why the warlords, who have vast combat experience, did this?
                      12. dvina71
                        dvina71 21 November 2019 22: 32
                        -2
                        Quote: Spade
                        Do not try to pull the owl on the globe. The date of creation of specialized combat engineer assault units is known.

                        Yes .. spring 43g, just after the battle of Stalingrad ..
                        There is such a book "Stalingrad - to the last bullet" .. by Heinz Schroeter .. read it, you will not regret it .., especially about the two engineering-assault battalions of the Wehrmacht ..
                      13. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 21 November 2019 23: 16
                        +1
                        Quote: dvina71
                        two Wehrmacht engineering-assault battalions ..

                        ?
                        And why should they? Given the vast experience create and the use of assault groups.
                        Yes, these groups included sappers. But the first violin was always played by infantry.
                2. Flooding
                  Flooding 21 November 2019 14: 59
                  0
                  Starting quotes, of course, is logical with general provisions.
                  Chapter 1. GENERAL PROVISIONS
                  7. The military police is designed to protect the life, health, rights and freedoms of military personnel, civilian personnel, ensuring the rule of law, law and order, military discipline, road safety, guarding the facilities of the Armed Forces in the Armed Forces, as well as within its competence to combat crime and protection of other legally protected defense relations.
        2. Flooding
          Flooding 21 November 2019 11: 18
          0
          I have nothing against the gendarmerie itself.
          But against the distortion of essence in relation to the military police.
      4. maidan.izrailovich
        maidan.izrailovich 21 November 2019 13: 58
        +1
        You can also introduce the institution of military gendarmerie and give it the original authority of the military police.

        The gendarmerie is in French and is the police. And the very concept of "police" is of Greek origin.
        Gendarmerie (fr. Gendarmerie ) - the police, having a military organization and performing security functions within the country and in the army (field gendarmerie or military police) ...

        Police (French Police, from other Greek ἡ πολιτεία - state, city) ...
    2. Obi-Wan Kenobi
      Obi-Wan Kenobi 21 November 2019 11: 12
      -3
      Initially, the great idea of ​​creating a military police was perverted beyond recognition.

      Exactly.
      The GRU special forces will be put on ATVs, slap the emblems of the VP and went to fight.
      1. YOUR
        YOUR 21 November 2019 11: 54
        +1
        It is possible that they did so.
        Because only in 2017 was the first set for the training of military police officers. At the Moscow Higher Combined Arms Command School. They are still studying for 3 years.
    3. venik
      venik 21 November 2019 13: 55
      +1
      Quote: Spade
      Ambets.
      Initially, the great idea of ​​creating a military police was perverted beyond recognition.

      ======
      Paragraph! And what's the problem? "ATVs" are a "bad idea" ??? what
      As for me, it’s quite the opposite! In a hard-to-reach area - "the very THAT! (What the" doctor ordered "!!! -" cheap and cheerful "!!! good )

      PS Somewhere you need "Tigers" and "Typhoons", and somewhere and ATVs "above the roof" !! I want to remind you: during the Second World War, motorcycles with sidecars also showed themselves very robust (and from BOTH sides! So what's the problem?
      As for me - so would make the "quadric" a little wider: so that in addition to the "carrier" - more 2 (TWO!) Machine gunner fit! It would turn out nimble , fast и nimble machine with BIG firepower! And while - "for cheap!"
      I personally - FOR!!! On SUCH and would serve with pleasure! soldier
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 21 November 2019 14: 36
        0
        Quote: venik
        Paragraph! And what's the problem? "ATVs" are a "bad idea" ???

        It is intended.

        Quote: venik
        "Tigers" and "Typhoons" are needed somewhere


        They do not need them.
        Enough police UAZ with a place for a detainee
  2. Chaldon48
    Chaldon48 21 November 2019 11: 24
    +2
    And if the patrol is not attacked by a friend, all hope is for the "Warrior" and return sniper fire?
  3. Elephant
    Elephant 21 November 2019 11: 38
    0
    Still, the patrols in Syria should be equipped with reconnaissance and shock drones, so as not to risk people at all and not to destroy ground equipment!
  4. Pavel57
    Pavel57 21 November 2019 11: 39
    +1
    Why not a sidecar motorcycle?
    1. Elephant
      Elephant 21 November 2019 11: 41
      -1
      Probably not fashionable
      1. Pavel57
        Pavel57 21 November 2019 11: 43
        +2
        But three and a machine gun.
        1. loki565
          loki565 21 November 2019 16: 48
          0
          Three and a machine gun, it's a buggy. Maneuverability, speed, handling is much higher.

  5. Dikson
    Dikson 21 November 2019 12: 06
    0
    Will the ATVs be Chinese? Or Japanese? In general, I think that taking a civilian ATV, painting it with green paint and screwing a bent pipe to it, calling it military equipment is stupid. Firstly, the base should be wider. And what kind of optics is this? And reflectors on the wings for enemy snipers are stuck to help, right? Well, so that you can sparkle joyfully from afar? ATVs are very easy to somersault and break the necks of riders .. We are talking about mine protection, and we put the soldiers either on a nibbled field or on a "military" ATV .. They screwed a machine gun to the driver .. like: give up the taxi and fire back? Then, as on a good old car, they would make a barrel back so that the passenger could work .. Although there will be no sense in shooting on the move .. But it’s not clear at all .. - let's say the driver is wounded or killed and hangs on the steering wheel. . -the passenger will not be able to open fire from a machine gun ..
    1. YOUR
      YOUR 21 November 2019 12: 22
      +3
      Kvadriki our AM-1 of various modifications. But their mission is very foggy. In addition to a quick transfer from point A to point B, a couple of people and cargo within well of a couple of hundred kg, although I apparently too much have pulled it, it's hard to think of anything else. The machine gun is on the steering wheel, but here's how to use it in traffic is a question. Try to control and shoot, sitting behind is also in question firing both forward and backward.
      So basically it's just a vehicle.
      1. Dikson
        Dikson 21 November 2019 12: 38
        -1
        If instead of donkeys and camels to use ... for transportation of cargo .. then the machine gun eats up space on the hood .. And again - an army version with plastic lining on the wings ..))
      2. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 21 November 2019 12: 47
        0
        "but here's how to use it in motion." ////
        ---
        Only scare. I sat on such turrets. In off-road driving, the jeep jumps so hard that it is impossible to aim.
        At the bus stop you can get there.
      3. Clueless
        Clueless 21 November 2019 13: 44
        -1
        They OUR only the name, the usual Chinese under our name. Moreover, very poor quality.
        1. YOUR
          YOUR 21 November 2019 14: 03
          +1
          From beginning to end ours. Produced by Russian Mechanics. The PM500-2 is taken as a basis.
          As you write an ordinary Chinese, an ordinary Chinese along the tundra and in the frost does not run.
  6. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 21 November 2019 12: 45
    +3
    Such cars are usually used in special forces. To jump to the operation site at speed, jump off the car, shoot someone and run back.
  7. GibSoN
    GibSoN 21 November 2019 20: 12
    +1
    The Russian military police will be equipped with ATVs

    In the light of the latest news, about the actions of PMCs of the Russian Federation in Syria, where there was an explicit article about war crimes .. well, how would you need to equip them a lot with others .. In any case, if you screwed up so specifically ...

    PS Personally to me. Similar compatriots on .. did not rest! These are sick people! With whom not one normal person, does not want to have any business. With all my understanding of the essence of military operations.
    Treat these in closed institutions. Or liquidate.
  8. Clueless
    Clueless 22 November 2019 19: 25
    0
    Quote: YOUR
    From beginning to end ours. Produced by Russian Mechanics. The PM500-2 is taken as a basis.
    As you write an ordinary Chinese, an ordinary Chinese along the tundra and in the frost does not run.


    Similarly, both our engine and gearbox. .. carry enough game