Change of guard in Europe. EU politics and economics turn green


In the European Union there is a change of guard. In the spring, a new composition of the European Parliament was elected. In December, the European Commission will take over. Since October, the new heads of banking structures have been assimilating the powers. Their first major step was a review of funding priorities. For example, the European Investment Bank decided to stop lending to gas projects. According to the British service News The Air Force, the bank did this with the consent of the new European authorities.


Green debate


The basis of this decision of the Investment Bank is the general “greening” of European and world politics. It was developed at the turn of the century, gradually increasing momentum and developing into a global trend. At first it was the famous 1997 Kyoto Protocol of the year, obliging the countries of the world to reduce or stabilize greenhouse gas emissions.

In the new century, the United Nations Conference on Climate Problems, held in December 2015 in Paris, became the crown of “green” politics. As we recall, the world community finally leaned on the point of view of those climatologists who see in global warming reasons exclusively technogenic in nature. First of all, uncontrolled greenhouse gas emissions.

An agreement on a planetary scale was concluded in Paris. Its declared goals - by the second half of this century (by 2050 year) “to strike a balance between the volume of gases emitted into the atmosphere and naturally absorbed, that is, by the seas and forests” and by the end of the century “to keep global warming within two degrees Celsius compared to the pre-industrial era. "

Four years after the UN Climate Conference, the world community did not come to a consensus on how to solve this growing problem. Here, the non-specificity of the Paris Agreement largely affected. Unlike the Kyoto Protocol, which set strict quotas for greenhouse gas emissions, the Paris document, according to experts, contains “only vague words”.

The leading economies of the world (for example, the USA, China and India) have already begun revising the agreement. This affected the extent of financial support for poor countries most vulnerable to climate change. Disputes over the permissible limits of global warming have resumed (discussion is going on in the range from 1,5 to 3 degrees Celsius), etc. Washington said so about withdrawing from the agreement.

Gunpowder in this difficult topic is thrown by environmental activists of all stripes. Today they surprise the world with their exotic designs. Take at least their proposal - to abandon the consumption of meat in order to reduce the number of cattle that pollute the planet’s atmosphere with their natural gas emissions ...

Banks thought two years


At first, the Paris Agreement did not particularly affect the banking community. It formulated its objectives only two years later, when eight Central Banks created an association for the environmental friendliness of the financial system (Network of Central Banks and Supervisors for Greening the Financial System). The main motive for creating such a union was the risks of global warming - increased natural disasters (floods, droughts, fires, destructive storms).

Losses are borne by business, insurance companies. According to the World Bank, over the past decade, losses from natural disasters have exceeded 2 trillion US dollars (three times more than in the eighties of the last century, in comparable prices). Only insurance companies spent more than 700 billion dollars on damages.

NGFS bankers also thought about the redistribution of capital in connection with the "greening" of the economy. That is, they chose new priorities for financing business projects, where the leading role was given to the development of environmentally friendly transport, renewable energy sources and energy efficiency. The first victim of this policy was coal.

Now banks that are part of the NGFS association are refusing loans to companies using coal energy. Moreover, this applies both to ensuring its production, and to maintaining in working condition the equipment of coal thermal and power plants.

At present, about thirty more participants have joined the pool of eight Central Banks, including supranational ones - the World Bank, OECD, International Finance Corporation, and EBRD. The largest segment of this association is occupied by the Central banks of European countries. So it is not surprising that the main development institution of the European Union - the European Investment Bank - has moved into the green economy.

And in our apartment there is gas ...


Another thing is surprising: why now under the knife of bankers got a fairly environmentally friendly energy carrier - natural gas? Moreover, over the past five years, the European Investment Bank has funded industries related to minerals in the amount of more than 13 billion euros. Two-thirds of this amount was spent just on gas projects and infrastructure.

These days, for example, it enters the finish line for many years of construction of the Trans-Adriatic Gas Pipeline (TAP). On it, Azerbaijani gas from the Shah Deniz field will go to the European market at the end of the year and will partly compete with our Gazprom in the southern European countries. Actually, for the sake of this, Investbank financed the Azerbaijani project.

Now the bank, in accordance with the directives of European institutions, will completely cease supporting gas industry projects since 2022. In addition to those that receive EU approval before the end of the 2021 year. Some theoretical basis was even laid for this, saying that in the next 30 years the energy consumption from renewable sources will increase by 150%, and it will seriously displace hydrocarbons for the benefit of the general ecology.

Independent experts are more restrained in their assessments. They believe that the motivation of Europeans, deprived of serious energy resources, is to maximize the potential of their industry for the production of wind and solar power equipment and thereby ensure economic growth. However, the extensive development of this industry has its limits. For example, in the Benelux countries the fields for installing wind farms are already exhausted even in coastal waters.

Meanwhile, the global economy is consuming more and more energy. Because multinational companies continue to invest heavily in traditional energy. Last year, according to the International Energy Agency (IEA), such investments amounted to $ 2 trillion. The agency emphasizes that "investments in renewable energy decreased, while in the oil, gas and coal industries - increased."

It turns out that Europe today is like the foreman who is not keeping up. After all, gas consumption in the Old World will only grow. This is noted by the IEA in its annual World Energy Outlook report, published last week. Incidentally, the prospects for Russian gas exports are also indicated there. According to agency forecasts, “by 2030, Russia will increase gas exports by 26% from the level of 2018 of the year to 290 billion cubic meters, and by 2040, by another 16% to 336 billion cubic meters” and will remain the world's largest gas exporter.

As for the reduction of institutional investments in the industry, they will easily be replaced by more expensive commercial loans, which will bring gas costs to end consumers. They environmental initiatives of European politicians will come, as they say, sideways.

But for now, Europe is busy fighting gas projects. The other day, media outlets circulated a call to the European Union (to refuse to finance the construction of the Israeli gas pipeline to Europe), researcher at the Berlin Science and Politics Foundation (SWP) Stefan Wolfrum.

They wrote a lot about this project. He was also positioned as a competitor to the southern gas pipelines of Gazprom. Now new winds blew over Europe and, although Wolfrum's reasons (certainly approved by the Fund’s leaders) are more related to geopolitics than ecology, the fact remains that refusing to expand energy supplies has become a good form in the EU.

However, the IEA report shows that the new fashionable political trend does not so much interfere with the growth of gas consumption on the continent. And Europe is unlikely to abandon it during the lifetime of the current generation, and not only ...

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  1. WILL 24 November 2019 05: 43 New
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    Based on the message of the article, what should the reader have understood? Do Europe and the New World rule either Green or Blue? We understand! yes
    But essentially? belay Gazprom will increase gas exports! Here is the opening! laughing
    1. asv363 24 November 2019 06: 38 New
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      But in essence, the technogenic nature of warming has not been proven. Locally, perhaps within an industrial region, globally is a question. The fundamental equation of thermodynamics has no analytical solution in the general case. So whether we (humanity) make the climate warmer (which is a question in itself) or is this a natural cycle on planet Earth - science does not know.
      1. at84432384 24 November 2019 13: 03 New
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        Yes, he is not something that has not been proven, but anti-scientific. All technogenic emissions make up a few percent of the emissions of a single not the most powerful volcano. And how many active volcanoes are there? The bones of mammoths in the Siberian permafrost can speak of just cooling, this is how and with what to compare. Nature is generally cyclical and very poorly studied. Behind all such loud and panicky statements about a universal catastrophe, ears of global interest always stick out. Figures from the UN were caught by the hand in falsifying data from weather stations. The scandal, of course, was hushed up (the media, as you know, love money very much), but the fraud itself did not go away.
        1. asv363 24 November 2019 13: 17 New
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          I agree, Vladimir. Even our climatic drought grantosos came across falsification of data, there was a scandal.
          1. at84432384 24 November 2019 14: 50 New
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            Yes, cunning guys, provided "data" from long-closed weather stations, and changed the existing ones to +. There was an average annual, for example, -2, it became +2. And what is surprising, there were no criminal cases; power patrons were found.
        2. gridasov 27 November 2019 17: 07 New
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          In general, it is very difficult for common sense to deny that having pumped oil or gas out of a deposit or having developed a coal deposit, and at the same time the radial potential of magnetic fluxes will not change and this will not entail global consequences,
      2. To be or not to be 24 November 2019 16: 58 New
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        asv363 (Sergey Vyacheslavovich) Today, 06: 38 NEW
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        But in essence, the technogenic nature of warming has not been proven. "
        Even in Soviet times in the 70s I read about cycles of warming and cooling on the ground .. There were a lot of reasons. But now they just don't blame anyone and the cows .. and they start killing livestock in Europe .... and heavy industry - here it is clear that China needs to be lowered ..... and the interaction of the thermonuclear poisons of the sun and the core of the earth .. and the algae of the oceans.
        . It turns out that in the current cycle the duration of the warming period will be less than before and it will be more rapid ..
        But as a matter of fact, America’s lowering in Europe - first they kill nuclear energy. windmills. now grabbed the gas .. Go !! To the European Caliphate!
    2. Den717 24 November 2019 08: 14 New
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      Quote: ANIMAL
      Green or Blue? We understand!

      From this article, it must be understood that strengthening the green means strengthening the direct influence of the American neocons on German politics. This means that after Trump, the return of globalism to the European continent is possible, possibly in the form of a new interpretation of TTIP, a sort of economic NATO. This for us can mean only one thing - they will forcefully squeeze us out of European markets, including oil and gas. So blue in Europe is not as scary as systemic “new conservatives”.
      1. depressant 24 November 2019 10: 39 New
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        She looked out the window, and there was already the third day there was a violation of the laws of thermodynamics. The sun, although low, shines brighter nowhere, and the earth froze so that without a single snowflake from the sky - a white carpet, from which icy black grass sticks out only in some places. I looked on the Internet, and there, contrary to the weather, there was a green-green policy.
        1. Den717 24 November 2019 14: 53 New
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          Quote: depressant
          She looked out the window, and there was already the third day there was a violation of the laws of thermodynamics.

          Normal St. Petersburg autumn, adjusted for error, but in general, according to the season. Also in the world - everything is more or less predictable. If the greens are maintained and controlled by Soros, then what else can you expect from this movement? Is the economic union of Germany with Russia?
    3. NF68 24 November 2019 16: 25 New
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      Quote: ANIMAL
      Based on the message of the article, what should the reader have understood? Do Europe and the New World rule either Green or Blue?


      They rule green-blue with an admixture of pink.
  2. The leader of the Redskins 24 November 2019 06: 17 New
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    No, the message is different ... It may happen that our gas valve may not be so "golden". Not Lelik, everything was lost, of course, but the expected income from all our flows may be lower ...
    1. Gardamir 24 November 2019 07: 38 New
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      but expected income
      Who?
      1. Vol4ara 24 November 2019 10: 49 New
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        Quote: Gardamir
        but expected income
        Who?

        It is clear to everyone who, you and I are clearly not at the feeding trough. Here are just a shortage of food in the trough, will be compensated at our expense
    2. WIKI 24 November 2019 11: 09 New
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      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Not Lelik, everything was lost, of course, but the expected income from all our flows may be lower ...

      “The cost of building this corridor from Yamal to Europe was calculated by economists at the VNIIgaz Institute back in 2008. The Miller’s signed Program for the Integrated Development of the Yamal Peninsula and Adjacent Water Areas (a copy is at the author’s disposal) states that the creation of such an infrastructure in different scenarios only to Torzhok, not to mention the routes from Torzhok to the sea coast, it will cost from $ 80 billion to $ 93 billion. How much Gazprom actually spent on laying new pipes to bypass Ukraine is not reported. the Yamal project, given the gigantic cost of building a new gas transportation corridor, will not be commercially viable even by 2035. " "Gazprom prepared a justification for investments in the Power of Siberia, and at the end of this document it said: yes, this project can be of commercial importance, but only if the gas price in it is increased by 50-70%.
      They calculated the price of gas in three different ways: it was tied to the price of oil at 60, 75 and 90 dollars per barrel. And according to the justification of investments made by Gazprom planners and economists, it turns out that even at the price of the most expensive oil, the project does not pay off even in 2048! This is not a commercial project at all. "
      1. Vadim237 24 November 2019 13: 35 New
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        These projects are primarily aimed at conquering the market for our gas - the more countries depend on our supplies and transport infrastructure, the better the prices can be raised further - investment in the long term. They will soon build the Power of Siberia 2, the Arctic LNG, and with a high probability they will drop another thread Nord Stream 3 to Europe.
        1. Ingvar 72 24 November 2019 14: 34 New
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          Quote: Vadim237
          These projects are primarily aimed at capturing the market for our gas -

          But the domestic market is over? belay My mother has been promised gas for 9 years, and things are still there. And such crap in many cities. But for export at our own expense we pull the pipes. With gasoline, it’s no better; at Gazpromneft gas stations in Kazakhstan and us, the price tag differs by half. We have 42, in Kazakhstan 26 rubles. per liter. The same gasoline, Vadik!
          1. WIKI 24 November 2019 16: 44 New
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            But for export at our own expense we pull the pipes.
            Let them pull, but they did not forget their population. The same Strength of Siberia-2, with a length of 2 thousand km. We built a gas purification plant at the end of the pipe so that clean gas would go only to China.
            for us and Kazakhstan, the price tag differs twice. We have 42, in Kazakhstan 26 rubles. per liter. The same gasoline
            Here is what the Kazakh comrades say: “Large Russian oil companies, partly, thus avoid taxation related to the export of crude oil.” “Tax refund covers not only the reduction in prices for the end consumer, but also allows the Russian company to make big profits in Kazakhstan ". https://oilcapital.ru/article/general/03-07-2019/nalogovyy-manevr-ne-doshel-do-kazahstana
            1. Vadim237 24 November 2019 23: 49 New
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              And oil refineries and gas refineries are building Sibneftekhim and the Amur Gas Processing Plant - probably the same tricky tax evasion scheme?
          2. Vadim237 24 November 2019 23: 44 New
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            This is probably because there in Kazakhstan there is no 70% excise tax on the cost of gasoline in Russia - hence the price of 26 rubles. Part of the gas Power of Siberia will go to the domestic market - in Russia, gasification is a long and expensive process - even the USSR for all its 70 years of existence has not gasified most of the territory.
            1. WIKI 25 November 2019 01: 05 New
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              Part of the Siberian Power gas will go to the domestic market
              If a gas purification plant is being built in Blagoveshchensk, how will clean gas be transported to consumers who live along the pipeline? Another pave?

              Nothing will go to the domestic market. “The Chayandinskoye field at the peak of production is not capable of producing more than 25 billion cubic meters of gas per year. This means that Gazprom’s promise to deliver 38 billion cubic meters per year to China cannot be carried out on the basis of this field alone. A second large field needs to be connected to it , not in Yakutia, but in the Irkutsk region - the Kovykta, which also still needs to be developed and built an additional 800 km of the pipeline to connect Kovykta with Chayanda.

              Thus, if we say that gas will go to China in December 2019, this means that the initial capacity of the entire system will be approximately 4-4,5 billion cubic meters per year. In order to bring the “Power of Siberia” to 38 billion cubic meters, it is necessary to extract 42 billion cubic meters per year from these two fields. The difference will be spent on extracting components from gas; gas must also be spent on the operation of compressors at gas pumping stations. If you look at the graphs prepared by Gazprom planners and economists, such production can be achieved about 10 years after the start of gas pumping to China. That is, it will be possible to reach the target figure not in 2019, but only in 2029. "
        2. WIKI 24 November 2019 16: 22 New
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          So far in fact: "The main conclusion that Sberbank CIB analysts Alex Faq and Anna Kotelnikova make in the May report on Russian oil and gas companies are the main beneficiaries of Gazprom's projects for the construction of three export pipelines to China (Power of Siberia) and Europe (" Nord Stream-2 "and" Turkish Stream ") are not its shareholders, but contractors, among which Stroygazmontazh Arkady Rotenberg and Stroytransneftegaz (about 50% belong to Gennady Timchenko and his family." According to Yamal LNG: Power of Siberia-2:
    3. Vadim237 24 November 2019 13: 28 New
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      Gazprom exports gas annually for approximately $ 50 billion, the amount must be recognized as modest compared to Russia's total GDP of $ 1700 billion.
  3. andrewkor 24 November 2019 06: 28 New
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    I fully support the decisions of "environmental" bankers! There are two thermal power plants in the city of Barnaul, another one outside the city. For the winter, heaps of Kuzbass coal are being prepared. If the wind towards the city, soot is everywhere, even between the window frames. If the wind is beyond the Ob, then people there live in Altaysk, Povalykh and so on. Little horses don’t go on ice because of soot! And how many boiler houses in the old part of the city are also coal when you go to the city from the South you see an impenetrable cloud of smog over the old part in the Barnaulka hollow and the bus literally dives under this cloud! (Not every day)
    I myself have been living in Tashkent for 38 years, I have everything on gas, no problem.
    Hello to fellow countrymen - Barnaul!
    1. Rimlianin 24 November 2019 06: 39 New
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      Hello for you too! Only here he was able not so much from coal-fired thermal power plants (pipes are very high), but because of the abundance of vehicle exhausts. It is necessary to stimulate people in the city to refuse to use cars in order to carry only their jo ... u, to develop a tram network. But there are no trams covering only the old part of the city, while on the rails the old Czech cars from the early Brezhnev era ...
      1. andrewkor 24 November 2019 06: 57 New
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        Dear, you didn’t live on the Stream and didn’t spread the snow that lay in the spring for melting as soon as possible. By layers of soot and pure snow you can calculate when and how much soot has fallen. I don’t deny the impact of transport on the environment, as well as "ecologists". increased at times, this is a fact, that’s the result! And you still missed the boiler rooms in the old part of the city.
        In Uzbekistan, our first President Islam Abduganievich Karimov foresaw this and was very busy with roads to avoid traffic jams and other inconveniences, cars are massively converted to gas, it is cheaper than gasoline and does not damage the environment. But the “clean” trams and trolley buses in Tashkent completely eliminated, not to interfere with cars.
        The new President Shavkat Miromonovich Mirziyoyev continued this road strategy, in particular on the development of the subway.
    2. Kote Pan Kokhanka 24 November 2019 06: 59 New
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      No offense! Barnaul and Tashkent - this winter is even close "not near"!
      Now about the environment. There is such a saying, “shoemaker without boots”. In the USSR, this situation was widespread when roads, highways and other infrastructure were built primarily in the Union republics, and not in the RSFSR. I still remember the contempt of Chernobyl children brought to us in the Urals after those tragic events. “And you have a neck here for a hole. Neti gas, neti asphalt, nine-story neti! Here we have ...... ".
      Can not argue with that. Gas in my hometown appeared only 10 years ago. Moreover, the distances from Novy Urengoy and Chernobyl are clearly not comparable. The name of the asphalt road construction program alone was worth the “Non-Black Earth Roads”! So I fully understand the Barnaulites; Siberia is geographically banal beyond the Urals.
      Although, in its mining mentality, the appearance of smoking chimneys of plants pleases me. Metal pours - the plant breathes - people live!
      Regards, Vlad!
      1. andrewkor 24 November 2019 07: 14 New
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        Dear, I have nothing to be offended. I know the difference between Tashkent and Barnaul on my own skin. I lived there for 18 years, I went to the pancakes with my whole family for my mother-in-law's pancakes. I took both children especially for the winter holidays so that they could feel this winter. Therefore ,including,
        and son and daughter are now in Russia.
        The coal-fired CHP is very powerful and in Uzbekistan there is brown coal in Angren near Tashkent. How else to use the coal?
    3. asv363 24 November 2019 07: 05 New
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      This problem arose long ago due to the separation of RAO UES by Chubais. Maybe, instead of depriving many thousands of miners, it’s enough to just install a filter on a TPP / TPP? In principle, it’s not so expensive, in a pinch, the state could also purposefully throw some too efficient owners, targeted, with a return. There is the option of switching to gas (not everywhere), but then the coal mining industry will suffer back.
      1. Igorpl 24 November 2019 09: 41 New
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        As an option, boilers for a water-coal mixture. They are at least thirty years old.
    4. Den717 24 November 2019 08: 21 New
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      Quote: andrewkor
      I fully support the decisions of "environmental" bankers!

      Primitive point of view. To close and ban coal is simple. Where to go and what to do with the population engaged in coal production? The most sensible thing is to introduce the technology of "clean coal", which are being developed in the USA, and in China they are striving. China has not progressed quite well in improving the sectors that consume coal, and something could be borrowed from it. We have simply been "forgotten" about the whole thing. And we need a tough state policy aimed at appropriate funding and technology improvement from the "coal magnates".
      1. Vadim237 24 November 2019 13: 44 New
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        To build a new Vorkuta railway, China, so that coal production in the Komi Republic would take off - otherwise now there is generally sadness with sadness.
  4. Fevralsk. Morev 24 November 2019 06: 52 New
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    This is politics. They promise one thing in the elections, and, sitting in soft chairs, pass laws that are contrary to promises. Everything is in the usual way.
  5. Selxozotdel 24 November 2019 06: 52 New
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    Take at least their proposal - to abandon the consumption of meat in order to reduce the number of cattle that pollute the planet’s atmosphere with their natural gas emissions ...

    I liked it here .. Well, ventures, gorlopan with beards .. laughing
  6. bubalik 24 November 2019 07: 37 New
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    Santa Claus doesn’t exist.
    Mother Teresa is not at all “Mother Teresa”.
    And greenpease is not green. bully

    Greens are the primary instrument of unfair competition in a political war.
    1. bubalik 24 November 2019 08: 44 New
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      ,,, in December 2018, the last coal mine was closed in Germany. The closure of the mine was noted as a “victory of clean ecology” over dirty coal production. But belay the main reason was not ecology, but the high cost of its production. The Germans have become much more profitable to buy coal in Colombia, Australia, the United States and especially in Russia. what Russia remains the largest supplier of coal to Germany. Russia's share in the European coal market exceeds 30%, 56% of Russian coal exports come here, the country remains the third largest exporter of coal in the world.

      ,,, data on the fuel and energy balance of Germany indicate that among sources of energy, coal still accounts for 14,1%,
      brown coal - 22,5%,
      atomic energy - 11,7%,
      natural gas - 13,2%,
      windmills - 16,2% and solar panels - 6,1%. The share of hydropower and alternative energy sources remains small. bully
      ,,, 23 new coal-fired thermal power plants are being built in Germany, and in recent years over 10 gigawatts of new coal capacity have been commissioned: this means that no one is going to refuse from coal in the near future. Moreover, by 2022 the country should completely abandon nuclear energy. Since coal (stone and brown) accounts for up to 40% of electricity generation, it is not possible to replace it with alternative types of energy in the next decade. yes
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        bar 24 November 2019 10: 53 New
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        23 new coal-fired thermal power plants are being built in Germany, and in recent years over 10 gigawatts of new coal capacity have been commissioned: this means that no one is going to refuse coal in the near future

        The green ones will impose an “environmental tax” on these stations, and the final consumers of energy will pay for everything. Normally. Business, nothing personal ...
    2. knn54 24 November 2019 12: 12 New
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      Greens are associated with gangs of anarchist times
      Civil war. I think that the predatory ESSENCE remains.
      1. Nyrobsky 24 November 2019 12: 23 New
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        Quote: knn54
        Greens are associated with gangs of anarchist times

        In order for the green ones to be less green, you need to give them a good blue at least once.
  7. Thrifty 24 November 2019 08: 14 New
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    If you dig a little deeper, it is not national interests that are in priority, but politics. Under the sauce of independence from hydrocarbon supplies, the requirement of the United States to limit the consumption of Russian gas by the European Union is fulfilled. And everything else is just a political base for the given demand of America.
    1. aybolyt678 24 November 2019 15: 35 New
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      Quote: Thrifty
      If you dig a little deeper, it is not national interests that are in priority, but politics.

      Of course, politics! ++ Big money seeks to control global energy. They are not interested in controlling various corporations. It is easier for them to have "pocket" governments like ours.
      From Russia they made a large supermarket selling junk in exchange for the very energy - oil and gas, and is slowly dying. They will not allow Europe to control energy - it will be strangled by pederasty.
  8. parusnik 24 November 2019 08: 16 New
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    In our town, there is already no industrial production ... And my windows are more often, in soot .. yes and the walls of the houses are no better ...
  9. Prisoner 24 November 2019 08: 54 New
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    If the "green" prices for fur unfold, and cotton wool will soar upward. winked Or do they want to freeze their new citizens, in the hope that they will dump again in Africa? laughing
  10. Errr 24 November 2019 08: 57 New
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    I love funny pictures, from childhood I love. )))
  11. Igorpl 24 November 2019 09: 36 New
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    If Europe follows this path, Europe will end.
    1. rocket757 24 November 2019 10: 28 New
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      Quote: Igorpl
      If Europe follows this path, Europe will end.

      Not the end, but it will turn green, it will be covered with mold, that's for sure!
  12. rocket757 24 November 2019 10: 27 New
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    . , the fact remains: to refuse to expand energy supplies has become a good form in the EU

    Everything would be alright, only how will they support their own energy balance, power supply, question?
    By the way, the question is, and in whose favor are the geyropey bureaucrats, they want to put a geyropu on a hungry energy rations, a question, questions !!!
    A boom to see who sends all these "green bullshit" naf and will be the godfather king?
  13. bar
    bar 24 November 2019 10: 49 New
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    With green politicians, in addition to intrigue and scandals, there is nothing to take. But do they have, apart from Greta Tumberg, technically competent experts who could calculate the consequences of the greening of the energy sector? What are they going to replace nuclear and thermal generating stations with? What will they charge the army of electric vehicles with, which should replace cars with ICE? Where are they going to put battery waste? Well, complete nonsense. I understand that by and large they do not care about the environment, they just really want to seize power, and they found a strong ram that will help them get there. But after all, millions of people who are fed with this branchy cranberry in earnest are led to this, House No. 6 on a pan-European scale ...
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    First, the "advanced countries going to the immutable values ​​of mankind" became blue and pink.
    Then they turned green.
    We are waiting for when, with a sharp cooling, they first turn blue, and there they turn black.
    Good luck.
    At the last.
  15. NF68 24 November 2019 16: 27 New
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    There is too little gas produced in the EU and no improvement is expected. At the same time, gas consumption is increasing. Among all foreign gas suppliers, Russia is the largest and most reliable supplier.
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    By 2030, Russia will increase gas exports by 26% from the level of 2018, to 290 billion cubic meters, and by 2040 - by another 16%, to 336 billion cubic meters. ”

    I would like to know how these billions will be exported. There will be no new gas pipelines. Liquefied gas and tankers - the cat burst into tears, and the growth prospects are not encouraging.
    Overhaul of the pipe through Ukraine at the expense of Gazprom and transit on Ukrainian terms?
    1. Vadim237 24 November 2019 23: 53 New
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      Who told you that there will be no new gas pipelines - until 2040 they will build so much that you gasp, Why did you build a star in the Far East - Russia will not be poor with large tankers and gas carriers, this is 100%.
    2. NF68 26 November 2019 16: 16 New
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      Quote: BAI
      By 2030, Russia will increase gas exports by 26% from the level of 2018, to 290 billion cubic meters, and by 2040 - by another 16%, to 336 billion cubic meters. ”

      I would like to know how these billions will be exported. There will be no new gas pipelines. Liquefied gas and tankers - the cat burst into tears, and the growth prospects are not encouraging.
      Overhaul of the pipe through Ukraine at the expense of Gazprom and transit on Ukrainian terms?


      If necessary, you can build other pipes.
  17. bbtcs 24 November 2019 17: 25 New
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    The head of Gazprom is rich, bourgeois, the head.
  18. Tests 24 November 2019 18: 58 New
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    Lean, respected, I agree with you. In place of the heads of the special services of our Western partners (pah-pah-pah, so that I would be in their place, however, there is science - the logic is called), would give the operas tasks to draw accounts and real estate of those who made the key decisions by which the European Investment Bank decided to stop lending to gas projects. It seems that the main decision-makers at the European Investment Bank, well, or their relatives, received corny bribes from American companies for receiving liquefied natural gas. This is how much you need to spend on pilotage of dollars so that the gas carrier passes through the Danish Straits and drives a small ship across the Baltic to Poland or the Baltic states! According to logistics, he went into the deep-sea port of France and downloaded all the liquefied gas. Winning in time 3-4 days from each flight!
    Vadim237 (Vadim), dear, many in the comments today recalled the red-haired man by night. This is because he said: “Energy cannot be poor!” Well, today, coal is brought from Kuzbass to Severodvinsk TPP No. 1. Vorkuta coal was abandoned in the mid-90s, saying that the ash content is large. The truth was modestly silent: how much is the transportation of coal from Vorkuta to Severodvinsk, and how much is it in time, and how much in rubles and days to bring coal from Kuzbass. But the TPP in Severodvinsk and throughout the Arkhangelsk region is the property of TGK -2, and its head, until recently, was in warm Cyprus. Procurement is carried out by the private owner as he wants, the state is on the side. Tariffs for heat and hot water are growing in Severodvinsk, which means that the prices for the nuclear submarines of the Russian Navy are higher and higher every year. Try it, with our winds and frosts, heat workshop 10 "Stars" and workshop 55 Sevmash!
    And with you, dear, Rimlianin (Eugene), I agree. In Arkhangelsk there was the northernmost tram line in the world. They suggested leaving the tram line at least 500 meters, as a monument - BUT in the 90s they killed both the tram and the trolleybus in Arkhangelsk. But now everyone is watching the PAZik races ... And in Severodvinsk, traffic jams in the mornings and evenings on Arkhangelskoye Shosse. Till 16 o’clock I didn’t get out of Zvyozdochka and didn’t leave the Yagra Island - you can come home and come at 19 o’clock if there will be an accident on the Yagrinsky or Arkhangelskoye Highways. Moreover, the bus is free. In cars - most often one driver, rarely with 1 passenger.
    1. Vadim237 24 November 2019 23: 58 New
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      I believe that in the future for Severodvinsk, Rosatom may wash down floating nuclear power plants - and then the demand for coal will decrease, and Vorkuta coal will only remain what to push to China - if it is really dirty.
  19. bandabas 24 November 2019 19: 39 New
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    In the photo in the header there is a nice face, which in all cases will remain with its own. Yes, and "alternate aerodromes" are available.
  20. dgonni 24 November 2019 19: 48 New
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    You just need to understand that in fact, from 2020 in Europe there will be enough gas from competitive suppliers. Sp-2 at the exit + whatever the miller says, Ukraine remains with its underground storage facilities. In addition, LNG plants are being completed both in Europe and in the states and Qatar. Bankers calculated everything clearly. Supply stability will not be threatened. Therefore, money is an alternative.
    By the way, in July in Germany, the alternative gave 60 percent of the total energy.
    1. Golovan Jack 24 November 2019 19: 58 New
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      Quote: dgonni
      LNG production plants are being completed both in Europe and in the states and Qatar

      LNG production in Europe? Of what? Yes, and why?

      Quote: dgonni
      in July in Germany, the alternative gave 60 percent of the total energy

      Not "all", study the topic ...
  21. Tests 24 November 2019 19: 57 New
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    And further. For some reason, the greenest ones do not support the development of tidal power plants. They don’t pay them for it, it seems. This is the greenest energy sector - it is not developing. In all of Russia, only 2 units at the Kislogubskaya TPP are in the Ural Bay just north of Murmansk ... Sevmash upgraded one turbine of the Kislogubskaya TPP in the 90s and production was ready orthogonal turbines put on stream, there were almost no orders from the military then.
    About 20 years ago there was a project of young specialists from Sevmash and Zvyozdochka to install a tidal power station on pontoons in the Mezen Bay of the White Sea (tides there are 6-9 meters, with a north-west wind of up to 10). And the fish would pass freely into the Mezen river to spawn, and in the case of a vessel approach: take part of the pontoons to the side - open the fairway, let the ship pass, put the pontoons in place. Moreover, the guys calculated one line of pontoons in the bay, and several at a distance of 3-5 km (this would reduce the turbine downtime - the main disadvantage of the PES), and a very short one - about 2 km in length on the Mezen river itself. Today, the Mezen port in the village of Kamenka has almost died - the road from Arkhangelsk to Mezen is now open all year round. It would be possible to draw power lines from Mezen to the GOKs of diamonds to the deposits to them. Mushroom and them. Lomonosov (geologists are ready to start developing a couple of deposits in the Primorsky and Mezensky districts) and further west to the village of Kuya, where the Chinese are ready to start building the deepwater section of the port of Arkhangelsk. But silence ...
    1. Vadim237 25 November 2019 00: 08 New
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      Now Russia has a production of PAES - tidal will eventually disappear.
  22. Mikhail3 25 November 2019 11: 11 New
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    Well, firstly, the "environmental orientation" of the Rothschild offspring is affecting. Not trying to get a real education, some turned to ecologists ... and the world economy began to pay for it. Secondly, the general degradation of the political and business elites of the modern world is most influential in current political processes. Here, of course, the great influence of the United States, which for many decades trained the European elite, reducing its quality by all available means, but not only.
    At one time, the USSR wildly scared the West with its "quality of people." The most secret techniques by which the West brought up its REAL elite turned out to be less effective than a simple Soviet school. Millions of people brought up and trained in this way, and even better than a few hundreds of Western elites, have created a real threat to the domination of the world elites over the world of slaves. Unprecedented pressure in the world began to be exerted on the USSR, which in the end he could not stand, but the damage already done had to be eliminated! The primary task has appeared - the stupidity of mankind! Very smart all became!
    Large-scale projects to stupify and decompose people were launched. The rigidly puritanical United States was forced to completely let go of it, and all over the world what was happening ... Nobody from the Western elite somehow thought that the methods of universal decay would affect it itself. After all, to be lazy, to allow yourself various excesses, to stop thinking and grow so easily and pleasantly!
    The sowers of the wind are now fully reaping the storm. This whole story is just another helpless stupidity carried out by people whose intellectual level, let's say, is low. Well, wise men have grown old, but these ones have replaced them. Yeah, here they are. These seriously think that the buns on the trees are growing ...