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The US Senate proposed to stop the construction of Nord Stream-2

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The US Senate proposed to stop the construction of Nord Stream-2

The United States may delay the commissioning of the Nord Stream-2 pipeline for more than a year by imposing sanctions on it. This statement was made by the US Republican Senator Ted Cruz.


According to the politician, the construction of the gas pipeline should be stopped, since after putting it into operation it can bring billions of dollars to “fuel the Russian aggression”, as well as cause significant damage to European countries. At the same time, he proposed to supply Europe with gas from "more reliable sources."

At the same time, it will harm Europe as a whole, making Western Europe more dependent on Russian energy, more prone to economic restraint, more prone to economic blackmail. I think that it will be better for all parties concerned if Europe receives energy from sources that will not use it as a way to blackmail

- said the senator, adding that if Europe begins to receive gas from the United States, this will create extra jobs for the Americans.

He proposed a bill on sanctions against the pipeline to introduce restrictions against Nord Stream-2 as part of the CAATSA Act on Countering US Adversaries Through Sanctions. Thus, Cruz is convinced that by taking measures against companies building the gas pipeline, Russia will not be able to complete it, since it does not have "technologies for laying the pipeline along the bottom." In the worst case, he added, the delay in building a gas pipeline would be more than a year.

Earlier, Russian Energy Minister Alexander Novak said that the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline could be commissioned later this year.
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  1. cniza
    cniza 21 November 2019 08: 49
    +17
    The US Senate proposed to stop the construction of Nord Stream-2


    "Guys" your power ended, from the word completely ...
    1. Spartanez300
      Spartanez300 21 November 2019 08: 57
      +23
      Don’t feed bread, let’s just spoil everything and everyone. What are all the same vile and low people.
      1. cniza
        cniza 21 November 2019 09: 02
        +15
        They understand that everything is getting out of control, so they will crap to the last.
      2. APES
        APES 21 November 2019 09: 04
        +7
        shit everyone and everywhere.

        Nothing personal, just business.
        There is also the answer:
        Europe will begin to receive gas from the United States, this will create extra jobs for Americans.

        They think of themselves
        1. cniza
          cniza 21 November 2019 09: 29
          +9
          No problem, and we about ourselves ...
          1. Vladimir16
            Vladimir16 21 November 2019 09: 53
            -5
            Quote: APES
            Nothing personal, just business.
            ...
            They think of themselves

            Fascists, Nazis and other European evil spirits, killing our relatives and seizing our lands, also thought about themselves?
            So?
            Nothing personal?

            How did you (people justifying aggression against the Russians) get yourselves by mumbling.

            Usually you then yell: - "What about us !!!"
            1. APES
              APES 21 November 2019 14: 38
              0
              How are you (people justifying

              1. Where did you see any excuse?
              you got your

              Cackling
              Usually you sweat

              Usually you feel like you’ve studied poorly if you think of it :))))))
          2. lis-ik
            lis-ik 21 November 2019 12: 40
            -1
            Quote: cniza
            No problem, and we about ourselves ...

            Interestingly, how do other countries cope without trade in resources? Maybe really think about yourself?
            1. eckons
              eckons 21 November 2019 13: 01
              +4
              Well, the United States is selling its resources and wants to sell even more of its resources. And they see nothing wrong with that. And they think about themselves. Maybe you are not digging in there and the problem is not in resource trading.
              1. lis-ik
                lis-ik 21 November 2019 13: 05
                -4
                Quote: eckons
                Well, the United States is selling its resources and wants to sell even more of its resources. And they see nothing wrong with that. And they think about themselves. Maybe you are not digging in there and the problem is not in resource trading.

                The United States and the rest of the economy are fine, and we have less than one of their states, California. Need to compare?
                1. APES
                  APES 21 November 2019 14: 32
                  -2
                  everything is in order with the economy

                  Pushkin was right: "he was a deep economy ..." :))))
                  Everything is in order with the economy - it doesn’t exist, or rather, it is, but not ours ...
        2. Lelek
          Lelek 21 November 2019 14: 21
          +1
          Quote: APES
          Nothing personal, just business.

          hi
          Such statements at the state level have nothing to do with business - state racketeering - YES. It would be better to attend to the problem with public debt, which could turn into a catastrophe.
          1. APES
            APES 21 November 2019 14: 26
            +1
            It would be better to attend to the problem with public debt, which

            Nobody will give. Why think about it?
            1. Lelek
              Lelek 21 November 2019 14: 28
              0
              Quote: APES
              Nobody will give. Why think about it?


              This is - an American business.
      3. Starover_Z
        Starover_Z 21 November 2019 09: 46
        +9
        Quote: Spartanez300
        Don’t feed bread, let’s just spoil everything and everyone. What are all the same vile and low people.

        The United States may delay the commissioning of the Nord Stream-2 pipeline for more than a year by imposing sanctions on it. This statement was made by the US Republican Senator Ted Cruz.

        You will bomb it again, guardians for "clean gas, not subject to economic blackmail"!
        And the imposition of sanctions against the gas pipeline under construction for the sale of its LNG is not economic blackmail ?! "White and fluffy" hyenas!
        1. DymOk_v_dYmke
          DymOk_v_dYmke 21 November 2019 14: 32
          0
          Quote: Starover_Z
          "White and fluffy" hyenas!

          + 1
          Quote: 210ox
          This is at their genetic level ..

          Hyeno-genetic.
      4. 210ox
        210ox 21 November 2019 09: 47
        +6
        They have it at the genetic level .. Starting, if you recall the gas supply of pipes of large diameter in the 70s
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 21 November 2019 09: 55
          +9
          Hello Dima ! hi
          US Senate proposed stop construction of "Nord Stream-2"

          A "stop" will not break? negative
          1. Pete mitchell
            Pete mitchell 22 November 2019 07: 42
            +1
            hi Comrade Cruz was distinguished even during the election campaign, he puffed up somewhere there: he very vigorously talked about the possibility of using nuclear weapons anywhere to protect striped interests and further down the list ... He is really sick with a head and is not friends with geography
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 22 November 2019 12: 13
              +3
              hi
              Quote: Pete Mitchell
              He is really sick on the head and is not friends with geography

              Y-yes, friendship with a "squirrel" will definitely not increase knowledge. And not only in geography ... wassat
    2. tovarich-andrey.62goncharov
      tovarich-andrey.62goncharov 21 November 2019 09: 19
      +3
      Alas, no ... The body will still dry out for a long time.
    3. Wolverine
      Wolverine 21 November 2019 09: 22
      +6
      Quote: cniza
      The US Senate proposed to stop the construction of Nord Stream-2


      "Guys" your power ended, from the word completely ...

      Exactly, they can only bleat like black sheep, they got everyone by Russian aggression.
      1. Alex Nevs
        Alex Nevs 21 November 2019 09: 42
        +3
        This must be told to the departed into oblivion of Yugoslavia, Libya .........
      2. cost
        cost 21 November 2019 09: 52
        +8
        the construction of the gas pipeline must be stopped, since after its commissioning, it could bring billions of dollars to "fuel Russian aggression" and also cause significant damage to European countries. At the same time, he offered to supply Europe with gas from "more reliable sources."

        Wolverine (Anatoly): They got everyone by Russian aggression.

        Now put these two texts together, and you will immediately understand what America really considers "Russian aggression" ... Of course, the export of Russian energy resources hi
        So that all of their vaunted democratic institutions are nothing more than an unfair rotten struggle with competitors
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 21 November 2019 11: 49
          +5
          Quote: Rich
          all their vaunted democratic institutions are nothing more than an unfair rotten struggle with competitors

          So that was America.
          To benefit from everything. After the Second World War, everyone was in ruin, and the States were in chocolate
        2. SERGOL
          SERGOL 21 November 2019 19: 07
          +1
          This is clearly evidenced by the x / f The disgusting eight. It clearly shows the ideals, habits and mentality of the American.
    4. rocket757
      rocket757 21 November 2019 09: 26
      +2
      Hello Victor soldier
      Quote: cniza
      "Guys" your power ended, from the word completely ...

      Let's not rush. They can still do a lot, but not all.
      We can resist them, but better, along with other interested countries, individuals ...
      If a bunch of people can get together, then we'll shove them a "ruff" ... where necessary.
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 21 November 2019 09: 48
        +1
        Quote: cniza
        No problem, and we about ourselves ...

        If this is true, then there are just problems. The truth is not global.
        Senator Ted Cruz ---... Russia will not be able to complete it, since it does not have "technologies for laying a pipeline along the bottom." In the worst case, he added, the pipeline will be delayed by more than a year.
    5. NF68
      NF68 21 November 2019 16: 21
      0
      Quote: cniza
      "Guys" your power ended, from the word completely ...


      Not quite yet. But another plop is about to be ready. And some will be hurt by someone overseas.
  2. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 21 November 2019 08: 52
    0
    Wow! Spiders (USA and Germany) in the bank? It will be cool to see!)))
    1. cniza
      cniza 21 November 2019 09: 03
      +5
      All the same, Germany is more a spider victim - the USA ...
    2. Semurg
      Semurg 21 November 2019 09: 13
      -8
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Wow! Spiders (USA and Germany) in the bank? It will be cool to see!)))

      Actually, the spiders in the bank are the United States and the Russian Federation, which are starting a battle for the future of the gas market in Germany and Europe in general. The Germans competently saturate their market from various sources and on different routes, plus they still close nuclear power plants, and this is an increase in gas consumption and the preservation of the Ukrainian route. It is vital for Europe to be completely independent of bypass routes. So you will not be able to look from the side to the battle of spiders, since the Russian Federation is a direct participant in this battle (after all, Gazprom is the property of Russia).
      1. Vlad.by
        Vlad.by 21 November 2019 09: 38
        +2
        For more than 30 years, they were somehow not bothered by the only pipeline route from the USSR, which provided 30 to 40% of the total gas supply.
        And then all of a sudden, the Ukrainian Route, which already breathes, is "vital".
        Why?
        They will launch SP-20 in 2 and all this foam will come to naught.
        The Ukrainian GTS in the form in which it existed has already ended. This is a given. They are still struggling for another year, two, three and they will start quietly sawing them for scrap. It is necessary to maintain it, and even 10-15 billion cubic meters of gas are only losses.
        So they will start shredding in pieces, “optimizing” ...
        I already bought popcorn, I’ll put a chair somewhere by May-June of the 20th.
        According to my forecasts, the most fun will begin in August-September.
        Here it will be howling!
        1. Semurg
          Semurg 21 November 2019 09: 46
          -4
          Ok in September next year we will discuss either zrada or overpower.
        2. 210ox
          210ox 21 November 2019 09: 50
          +9
          I strained when this route was built .. Urengoy-Pomary-Uzhgorod. Don't you remember? This is a means of political pressure. And then rabble came to power in Russia and immediately ceased to strain.
      2. Tank hard
        Tank hard 21 November 2019 11: 17
        0
        Quote: Semurg
        The Germans competently saturate their market from various sources and on different routes, plus they still close nuclear power plants and this is an increase in gas consumption and the preservation of the Ukrainian route. Europe is vital that it would not be completely dependent on bypass routes

        Here! I propose to completely stop gas supplies to Europe, let them develop, and we will laugh. wink laughing
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 21 November 2019 11: 53
          +3
          Quote: Tank Hard
          I propose to completely stop gas supplies to Europe,

          How will you replenish the budget from this component?
          1. Tank hard
            Tank hard 21 November 2019 11: 57
            0
            Quote: Silvestr
            How will you replenish the budget from this component?

            Sylvester hi Why are you so worried about the budget? They will find what ... You prompt, or criticize, because you mostly criticize. wink laughing
            1. New Year day
              New Year day 21 November 2019 12: 24
              +2
              Quote: Tank Hard
              You are mostly criticizing.

              but really not for what?
              Do you like saving patients without syringes, drugs and threads? Do you want to be treated like this? laughing
              Quote: Tank Hard
              Why are you so worried about the budget?

              so we treat at the expense of the budget. Want to transfer us to self-financing? Do you want me to determine the salary depending on the intestines and stomachs cut by me, the number of operations? laughing I don’t mind, but whoever didn’t hide is not my fault hi
              1. Tank hard
                Tank hard 21 November 2019 16: 04
                +1
                Quote: Silvestr
                but really not for what?

                There is definitely foolishness not to admit it. The main thing is not to turn into "all-propals".
                Quote: Silvestr
                Do you like saving patients without syringes, drugs and threads? Do you want to be treated like this?

                Do not exaggerate.
                Quote: Silvestr
                so we treat at the expense of the budget. Want to transfer us to self-financing? Do you want me to determine the salary depending on the intestines and stomachs cut by me, the number of operations?

                There is no positive in you. Do you like to exaggerate ... feel
                Quote: Silvestr
                I don’t mind, but whoever didn’t hide is not my fault

                Intimidate ... feel
                You understand, gas can be sold to other regions, and in a different form, even the United States recently bought liquefied gas from Russia when they pressed it. Do not exaggerate. I think that Russia will survive the cessation of gas supplies to Europe, but whether the European economy can survive it is a moot point. But here I think there are more competent specialists, if they want, they will explain. hi
                1. New Year day
                  New Year day 21 November 2019 16: 09
                  +2
                  Quote: Tank Hard
                  Do not exaggerate.

                  unfortunately, but it is a reality
                  Quote: Tank Hard
                  Intimidate ...

                  yes no, bring objective information
                  hi
          2. ochakow703
            ochakow703 21 November 2019 12: 56
            +1
            If you stop deliveries for a year, then the stolen by Miller and other Gazprom shobla will more than cover all budget costs. And in a year to conclude a contract that is beneficial for Russia A year will be enough for Geyrope to comprehend, and the overseas striped bandits will not have time to increase the production and supply of "molecules of democracy"
            1. Vlad.by
              Vlad.by 21 November 2019 13: 09
              0
              So this goes)))
              Here it will start from 1.01.20. Interruptions ... Moreover, it is clear that they will officially declare that the contract is not being fulfilled by Gazprom, but force majeure will be on someone's face. And it doesn't matter that they will face a penalty.
              Americans even having offered their gas (if they can handle the right amount) with their prices will once again put things in order in brain formation.
              New contracts themselves will be offered on readiness of SP2
              1. Tank hard
                Tank hard 21 November 2019 16: 08
                -1
                Quote: Vlad.by
                Americans even having offered their gas (if they can handle the right amount) with their prices will once again put things in order in brain formation.

                For example, they will start buying gas from Russia and reselling to Europe, while business ... wink
  3. Alexander Suvorov
    Alexander Suvorov 21 November 2019 08: 52
    +1
    At the same time, it will harm Europe as a whole, making Western Europe more dependent on Russian energy, more prone to economic restraint, more prone to economic blackmail. I think that it will be better for all parties concerned if Europe receives energy from sources that will not use it as a way to blackmail
    No, I’m straight from the nagger saxes. What they themselves are to blame, they blame others. All their statements should be taken with the opposite sign.
    US statement - Russia supports terrorists around the world ... Read - USA supports terrorists around the world ... Etc., etc.
    1. Cut Samshitov
      Cut Samshitov 21 November 2019 09: 48
      +2
      Psychologists at one time conducted an experiment - they showed a black ball to a group of children and asked them to name the color. The first group, at the request of the psychologist, spoke "white" in unison. In the second group (they did not know about the collusion), the majority also said "white". So the United States is bred the planet like kids.
      1. Antares
        Antares 21 November 2019 11: 55
        -2
        Quote: Sawing Boxwood
        The first group, at the request of the psychologist, spoke "white" in unison. In the second group (they did not know about the collusion), the majority also said "white". So the United States is bred the planet like kids.

        herd feeling. In a crowd, our common intelligence is equal to the lowest intelligence
        mechanically, we all say in white and black. If everyone around is screaming that black.
        And only a few ... not many can go against. It’s either smart or suicides (the crowd doesn’t like these)
  4. Invoce
    Invoce 21 November 2019 08: 53
    +3
    Damn, already got these arrogant Saxons. They invest so much effort and money in order to destroy something .... and get some kind of benefit for themselves, at the expense of someone. Vampires are natural. They invested loot in creation, in the development of relations. Nooo, the nature of monopoly is not designed for cooperation, but for competition, absorption, destruction of competitors, even sanctions, even war ...
    1. Souchastnik
      Souchastnik 21 November 2019 09: 37
      0
      the nature of monopoly is not focused on cooperation, but on competition, absorption, destruction of competitors, even sanctions, even war ...

      This is the nature of capitalism. Remember the collapse of the USSR, the 90s. Factories (new, with installed equipment) went bankrupt, equipment was scrapped. Damage to billions, so that only a millionaire fell into his personal pocket. This is not only with them, but, unfortunately, with us.
  5. Roman 57 rus
    Roman 57 rus 21 November 2019 08: 54
    +4
    He probably just found out about Nord Stream 2 from last year's newspapers .. winked
    1. cniza
      cniza 21 November 2019 09: 04
      +3
      He generally lives in parallel reality ...
  6. Flooding
    Flooding 21 November 2019 09: 02
    +3
    Mr mr. Cruz fulfills his salary.
    They also, apparently, need to show party initiative, to be in good standing.
    And since there’s nothing worthwhile to offer, why not remember the immortal horror story about Russia?
  7. aszzz888
    aszzz888 21 November 2019 09: 02
    +1
    The next, and the campaign, far from the last not quite clever mericatos, is pushing the idea of ​​"fix". We got it already, however. laughing
  8. Fedorov
    Fedorov 21 November 2019 09: 05
    0
    Insanity thrives in different forms. And especially when it comes to roach. And the Nord Stream - it will be.
  9. Yrec
    Yrec 21 November 2019 09: 06
    0
    The consequences of such sanctions against SP-2 may be completely unpredictable, and it is not a fact that mattresses will benefit from this. If suddenly there is a hard stop SP-2, coupled with the same stop of ukrotransit plus a cold winter, there will be a tryndets. "Cold, deserted Europe" (Vanga). Germany needs a relatively cheap gas, without it its industry and, first of all, the chemical industry, will become unprofitable. Already -5% by the end of 3 quarters, and without gas? The mattress itself can get into the insulation in such situations.
  10. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 21 November 2019 09: 06
    +1
    What is the point of wondering at the filth of the Rada if the mentors overseas are the same !? And yet, if they could do something, they would already do it!
  11. Dmitry Donskoy
    Dmitry Donskoy 21 November 2019 09: 07
    0
    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    Wow! Spiders (USA and Germany) in the bank? It will be cool to see!)))

    I wonder whose side will choose the Balts?
    1. abc_alex
      abc_alex 21 November 2019 09: 17
      +1
      Quote: Dmitry Donskoy
      I wonder whose side will choose the Balts?

      State, of course. It is their role in the EU to pursue US policy. Eastern Europe was pushed into the EU in order to make this association manageable. All the Balkans, Poland and the Baltic states are all state agents.
  12. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 21 November 2019 09: 13
    +1
    I think that it will be better for all parties concerned if Europe receives energy from sources that will not use it as a means of blackmail
    - said the senator, adding that if Europe begins to receive gas from the United States, this will create extra jobs for the Americans.
    Simple as a millet broom and dull, like a Siberian felt boot. They have the most "reliable source" this is the most greedy and impudent - America, they want to cut dollars from Geyropa and add more jobs at their expense.
  13. yuliatreb
    yuliatreb 21 November 2019 09: 14
    +1
    These threats are no longer taken seriously by anyone, because how much has been uttered, driven up by horror and poured shit, and most importantly, everything is past and half on yourself, in general there is even a swear word that can succinctly characterize them.
  14. valley64
    valley64 21 November 2019 09: 19
    0
    These deb-stars are star-striped absolutely awesome: the mind no longer lives there fool
  15. rocket757
    rocket757 21 November 2019 09: 22
    +1
    The United States may delay the commissioning of the Nord Stream-2 pipeline for more than a year by imposing sanctions on it. This statement was made by the US Republican Senator Ted Cruz.

    OK, START!
    For the sake of money, profit came in their own favor ... there is nothing more to consider.
  16. askort154
    askort154 21 November 2019 09: 26
    +5
    The US Senate proposed to stop the construction of Nord Stream-2

    Senator Ted Cruz is either an Estonian or a descendant of Robinson Cruz and spent a year on a desert island. yes
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 21 November 2019 10: 14
      +2
      Quote: askort154
      The US Senate proposed to stop the construction of Nord Stream-2

      Senator Ted Cruz is either an Estonian or a descendant of Robinson Cruz and spent a year on a desert island. yes

      Really belay . The news is stunning. Who would have thought that US senators could say this about Russia crying
  17. Elephant
    Elephant 21 November 2019 10: 06
    0
    Trade wars are gaining momentum. What a nasty face in the photo!
  18. Aliken
    Aliken 21 November 2019 10: 13
    0
    This figure would be better off worried about the barbaric production of shale gas by the United States. Where are all these homegrown populists "green" who don't know the problem?
    1. g1washntwn
      g1washntwn 21 November 2019 11: 10
      +1
      Their "greens" shoot funny videos of tap water burning. And this is not at all due to shale mining. What are you. This is because of the triumph of democracy, even the laws of physics are passing by. lol
  19. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 21 November 2019 10: 16
    0
    Here is your face, Gulchatay! You need money. Well, I think nothing will help you: neither the Ukraine project, nor the sanctions ... The crisis will break out soon and you will finally be blown away ...
  20. K-50
    K-50 21 November 2019 10: 25
    0
    the construction of the gas pipeline must be stopped, since after its commissioning, it could bring billions of dollars to "fuel Russian aggression" and also cause significant damage to European countries. At the same time, he offered to supply Europe with gas from "more reliable sources."

    Read pin pin. fellow lol
    How did you all turn up with directions that Russia can do what is not !!! am
    Unscrew the dull head and let it run like a chicken. All the same, they do not use it for its intended purpose !!! am
  21. bars1
    bars1 21 November 2019 10: 28
    0
    Another ritual nonsense, which even in the US is perceived with skepticism.
  22. Terenin
    Terenin 21 November 2019 10: 29
    +1
    Nord Stream 2 by imposing sanctions against it. This statement was made by the US Senator from the Republican Party Ted Cruz

    It is clear that the boy wants to please his colleagues, because he is of Hispanic origin, i.e. people in the USA "second class". By the way, his father, Rafael Cruz, is a Cuban emigrant who once fought with Fidel Castro against the dictator Batista. The corrupt son "far" must go ...
  23. anjey
    anjey 21 November 2019 10: 31
    +1
    At the same time, it will harm the whole of Europe, making Western Europe more dependent on Russian energy,
    Well, even if it is according to the American scenario, then Europe, dependent on Russia, will never fight with it and will more closely establish economic and trade ties, NATO a priori will not be needed, it can be dismissed as well as forget about the fictitious Russian threat, Russia with Europe is gradually integrating, both in politics and in the economy, only one strategic positive.
    This is what the U.S. war-raisers fear and see in a nightmare.
  24. Sapsan136
    Sapsan136 21 November 2019 10: 46
    +1
    The United States takes on a lot! It's time to nationalize all US property in the Russian Federation!
    1. tkoh
      tkoh 21 November 2019 11: 08
      -1
      And in response, they nationalize all the property of our authorities in the United States. And who will benefit from this?
      1. Sapsan136
        Sapsan136 21 November 2019 13: 04
        +1
        Russia will be better ... The fact that Yeltsins were plundered and exported to the USA is still lost for Russia, and it doesn’t give a damn about the interests of this fascist family that brought Russia only grief
  25. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 21 November 2019 10: 52
    +2
    The US Senate proposed to stop the construction of Nord Stream-2

    One thing can be said, already at the highest level, American officials smelled fried. As for the comparison of spiders in the bank, then it is not suitable. Here is the most common example from the chicken coop, when the turkey climbed above all and seeks to spoil everyone's head.
    It was correctly noticed that this happens at any time and far from the first time. By the way, for various opponents - Russia has never opposed the construction of terminals for receiving American LNG, while noting that pipeline gas from Russia is cheaper.
    That's all. As for some economic sanctions and a boycott, our country is practically not able to to spoil to forbid someone.
  26. dgonni
    dgonni 21 November 2019 11: 00
    0
    It would not be sad, but the Americans are so fun cheating on the path to the European natural gas market! And no matter how disgusting Miller and Gazprom were, they still quietly bite off pieces of a gas pie in Europe, despite Miller saying about the shale bubble! Ukraine with its 10 gas lard has already fallen off! Poland? Since 2022 -10 Lard! The cost of gas at hubs and exchanges in Holland and Austria is 120-140 killed raccoons. Starting in 2020, the expansion of mattress LNG begins. It will be full-scale from 2021. So everything is very sad!
    1. g1washntwn
      g1washntwn 21 November 2019 11: 19
      0
      American LNG is "cheap" only in the US port. Then it miraculously turns out to be much more expensive at the consumer's tap. Russian volumes will fall if the US starts pumping a new Marshall Plan into the EU. Do you see this? Me not. Therefore, the very sad is also not visible yet.
      1. dgonni
        dgonni 21 November 2019 12: 03
        0
        Look at the prices on the exchanges of the same Holland and Spain! And there is still a shaft of LNG gas! You can hide your head in the sand, but the fact that SP-2 has been built in fact and will pay off, give to all the saints in 50 years. And in fact never. And Europeans will use it. Somehow your optimism disappears.
        1. g1washntwn
          g1washntwn 21 November 2019 13: 07
          +1
          Quote: dgonni
          Take a look at the prices on the exchanges

          Look at the price of gas for consumers in these Holland and Spain and the proportion of American to the Middle East.
          Quote: dgonni
          SP-2 in fact is built and pay off, give to all the saints in 50 years. And in fact never.

          Don’t worry so much about Gazprom. Even less than half the load on Europackages pays for it. Exhale.
          Quote: dgonni
          And Europeans will use it.

          The pipe goes to the Europeans - so here you are right. Chinese goes to China, so the Chinese will use gas. All who bent to conduct flows through their territories paw and only their optimism disappears.
          1. g1washntwn
            g1washntwn 21 November 2019 13: 10
            0
            ... the literary phrase "cocyt paw" is cut by an illegible antimat lol
          2. dgonni
            dgonni 21 November 2019 15: 27
            -1
            Yes! You're right! On average, a common man in the region of 0.6-0.7 euros per cube pays in geyrops! In Italy and Switzerland, less expensive in Romania. But the question is that there is clearly separated the component of delivery and the energy tax. Given the average level of salaries of the same Swiss. They can afford to throw out three hundred euros for heating their chalet in the most fierce and frostiest month.
            But if you take the industry! That is the opposite situation! More than 200 dead raccoons no longer pay. For the market and volumes.
            Let Gazprom worry about Gazprom. In the future, he has an overma problem drawn. And the most critical is recognition in Europe as an unreliable supplier. Money is nothing to everyone!
            A. Yes! The power of Siberia in China is not needed in fact. But if the sale of gas is less than the cost, then it’s a profit!
            1. g1washntwn
              g1washntwn 22 November 2019 07: 51
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              Quote: dgonni
              And the most critical is recognition in Europe as an unreliable supplier.

              In what situation do you see this for yourself? In terms of European packages, delivery and transit are two different concepts. And there should be different companies, but Gazprom is not in the EU and is not obligated (but is ready to work according to European protocols). The transit country is responsible for stopping transit (this is a reference to the obstinacy of Ukraine, the European Commission is not just present at the negotiations there). And limiting the volume of Euro packages was such a blackmail that Gazprom would sell a piece of its profitable business to European companies. But it didn’t burn out, and that’s why they are furious that SP-2 easily bypasses this blackmail. Everything is simple to disgrace and, as usual, what infuriates the Germans - "Russians are not fighting according to the rules!"
              1. dgonni
                dgonni 22 November 2019 12: 52
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                Yes you are right! For Europackages, transit and delivery are different concepts. No problem! The question is that Gazprom did not conclude gas supply agreements with Europackages, but rather coloratively! And it was Gazprom that guaranteed gas supplies. And the fact that he did not bother to solve this issue with the transit countries is Miller’s problems as the head of Gazprom. And everything goes to the fact that Gazprom or signs a long-term contract for transit with Ukraine. Or fun gets a black mark of an unreliable supplier of gas to geyropov. And fun merges 50 percent of the European LNG market of Qatar and mattresses! Everything is just like in a children's chess sketch.
                1. g1washntwn
                  g1washntwn 25 November 2019 06: 46
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                  Quote: dgonni
                  Gazprom concluded gas supply agreements not in Europackages but in colourant

                  Behind the scenes is secret, so your emotional comparison, to put it mildly, is fake.
                  As a supplier, Gazprom promised DELIVERY, but after adjusting Europackages, its responsibility as a guarantor of transit fell to 50%, and the responsibility for the transit of private offices is sorry, but the responsibility of those who own the gas pipeline. Now, if the Ukrainian GTS belonged to Gazprom, then I would not call fantasies about an unreliable supplier - fantasies. Everyone and the EU in particular, it’s frankly clear who is sabotaging TRANSIT. After all, gas on the border of the Russian Federation has not gone away and is ready to go to Europe.
        2. Brturin
          Brturin 21 November 2019 14: 31
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          Quote: dgonni
          LNG gas shaft! You can hide your head in the sand, but the fact that SP-2 was built in fact and will pay off, give to all the saints in 50 years.

          Well, European companies that have invested 50% in SP-2 will have an additional argument to demand an exclusion from the amendments to the directive ("for a part of the pipe located in the territory or territorial waters of (the relevant state) for objective reasons, such as providing amortization of investments or. ..) and SP-2 will operate at full capacity. And with such prices for LNG, you can say hello to those LNG plants that the states are going to introduce in the near future .... There was an article about Australian LNG - sales prices are now for many plants in two or more times lower than the full cost of LNG ...
          1. dgonni
            dgonni 21 November 2019 15: 30
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            Where did you get 50% from the pipeline of European companies? It’s easy to dig on net and pop up the stolen and offshorized money of the Russians!
            1. Brturin
              Brturin 21 November 2019 15: 58
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              Quote: dgonni
              offshore money

              You can ask the Poles for what the Polish Antimonopoly Office issued a fine to the French Engie, you can ask the Bundestag deputies for what 2 billion German investments they are referring to when they approve exceptions to the gas directive. The management of the Austrian OMV represented by Rainer Seele - "The total cost of the project is 9,5 billion euros, our share is 10%." There is also Shell ... These are the offshore companies ...
    2. Evil echo
      Evil echo 21 November 2019 11: 22
      0
      Forgot to title - Wangyu!
  27. tkoh
    tkoh 21 November 2019 11: 06
    -2
    Whether this stream will or will not be - the life of ordinary people will not improve from this. This flow is needed only by those in power to buy another yacht.
  28. Evil echo
    Evil echo 21 November 2019 11: 21
    0
    The striped dream is to impose its own on the whole world, and then blackmail everyone (give - not give) and cheap attempts to attribute it to us.
  29. Maalkavianin
    Maalkavianin 21 November 2019 11: 26
    0
    It will be fun if the SP-2 pipe turns into ordinary scrap metal.
    1. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 21 November 2019 12: 12
      +1
      in Ukraine yes
  30. Chaldon48
    Chaldon48 21 November 2019 11: 43
    0
    The point here is no longer in the supply of gas, and not even in money, but whether the United States is a hegemon or not.
  31. Astronaut
    Astronaut 21 November 2019 11: 50
    +2
    it would be better for all parties concerned if Europe receives energy from sources that will not use it as a means of blackmail

    After these words I laughed for about 15 minutes wassat
  32. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 21 November 2019 12: 37
    +1
    People competently promote their gas in the market .... Does our government promote the interests of companies from the Russian Federation in the foreign market?
  33. Kerensky
    Kerensky 21 November 2019 12: 52
    0
    the Republican Party senator Ted Cruz spoke.

    Have we run out of senators ?! Let some "orthodox" come to the rostrum and offer to blow up and heat gas carriers. It will indicate the outfit of forces, remember the PDSS. Everything is within the framework of the regulations ... Not necessarily a well-known politician, there are a lot of people sitting there .... Of course, the media will condemn, but quotes from the speech will be published. "There" quotes will be translated (cut at the same time) and published (Russian threat). Europe will reprint for its American "respected" sources .... And then ours will say that he was misunderstood - he proposed a script for a New Year's party.
  34. NF68
    NF68 21 November 2019 16: 19
    0
    If the US authorities do not do at least a petty dirty trick to anyone during the day, it will be a direct lived day for them.
  35. rus-5819
    rus-5819 21 November 2019 21: 18
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    Europe will receive energy from sources that will not use it as a way to blackmail

    Will you name your first LNG carrier "Titanic", of course?laughing good fool
  36. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 23 November 2019 07: 26
    +1
    It's too late to drink Borjomi, gentlemen!