In Ussuriysk sentenced to an officer involved in the death of a private


Information appeared on the decision of the Ussuri garrison court against an officer of one of the military units. We are talking about Senior Lieutenant Khomyakov, who was held by the accused in the case of Private Stanislav Kuzema from Magnitogorsk.

A criminal case was instituted on the death of a soldier of "military" service in March this year. Stanislav Kuzema was found dead in a forest. In the case file, as the portal reports UssurMedia, contains evidence that there were traces of beatings on the soldier’s body.

The officer was found guilty of having repeatedly used violence against Kuzem, exceeding his official powers, as a result of which he committed suicide. The court decided to deprive the defendant of the case of the officer rank and send him to the colony for 6,5 years. Also, the convict will pay the family of Stanislav Kuzema compensation for non-pecuniary damage, the amount of which is not reported.


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Private father Kuzema noted that at the trial the ex-officer did not repent and did not apologize. At the same time, the man noted that the investigation should also consider the case of intentional murder. It is noted that the family of ordinary Kuzema is considering the option of filing an appeal for the retraining of a criminal case with an increase in the term of imprisonment.

Against this background, attracted attention another article of the same resource, which says that until September 18 the officer was not taken into custody. By a court decision, he was placed in a pre-trial detention center only after it became known that he had beaten his acquaintance to death.

It is alleged that the senior lieutenant beat a man who, with multiple injuries, was taken to a local hospital, where he died after some time.


Attached to the article is a document from the Ussuri district court. On this fact, the defendant was charged under part. 4 Art. 111 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (Intentional infliction of grievous bodily harm, resulting in the death of the victim by negligence).
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  1. Thrifty 21 November 2019 06: 42 New
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    One fact that accidentally reached the court. This is an exception to the rule, because such information leaks are fraught for commanders of units where this happens at the end of a military career, at least.
    1. rich 21 November 2019 07: 11 New
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      Investigators opened a criminal case on the fact of bringing to suicide and abuse of office with violence. The suspect turned out to be the 36-year-old platoon commander, senior engineer Khomyakov. As it turned out, Kuzyoma was constantly harassed by the commander. He did not allow the conscript to sleep or eat, forced him to do his job, and beat him for every fault.
      Investigators first detained the suspect, but soon the senior lieutenant released on bail. They motivated this by the fact that Khomyakov had no reason to hide from law enforcement, and he could not influence witnesses or other participants in the proceedings.
      And, a little more than two weeks ago, Khomyakov took the life of his friend. On September 18 he was detained, after which he was sent to a pre-trial detention center. In a drunken state, in his apartment he beat up to the death of a friend who died in the hospital. A new trial is pending. And for the death of a soldier Khomyakov received only 6 years

      Only the grave will correct Humpback
    2. YOUR 21 November 2019 07: 18 New
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      Imagine the situation in a modern army. The soldier went AWOL. Commanders stand on their ears, and soldiers politely or vice versa send them wholeheartedly. Will not go anywhere. Comes into a hollow drunk. They gave to oversleep, otherwise it is impossible, dismantling begins from the morning. And he stands or sits and smiles cheerfully. Because:
      55. The following types of disciplinary sanctions may be applied to soldiers, sailors, sergeants and foremen:
      a) reprimand;
      b) severe reprimand;
      c) the deprivation of another dismissal from the location of a military unit or from ship to shore;
      d) deprivation of the badge of the excellent student;
      e) a warning of incomplete official compliance;
      e) reduction in the military post of the corporal (senior sailor) and sergeant (foremen);
      g) a reduction in the military rank of the corporal (senior sailor) and sergeant (foreman);
      h) a decrease in the military rank with a decrease in the military position of corporal (senior sailor) and sergeant (foreman);
      i) early dismissal from military service due to non-compliance with the terms of the contract;
      j) disciplinary arrest.
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      What about disciplinary arrest? But like this:
      - Disciplinary arrest is assigned for up to 30 days for one or more gross disciplinary offenses. If a gross disciplinary offense is an administrative offense, the term of a disciplinary arrest is established within the time limit of an administrative arrest established for such an administrative offense by the Code of the Russian Federation on administrative offenses.
      Who can arrest a soldier?
      Arrest is the most severe disciplinary measure of responsibility. It is prescribed only for serious violations.
      The decision is made by the judge of the garrison military court. The intruder is placed in isolation on a guardhouse.
      Those. practically no one.
      . So it turns out that in the army the most unprotected contingent is junior command officers. Everyone demands from them, but they don’t have any rights.
      1. Leeds 21 November 2019 07: 48 New
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        Quote: YOUR
        Imagine the situation in a modern army. The soldier went AWOL. Commanders stand on their ears, and soldiers politely or vice versa send them wholeheartedly. Will not go anywhere. Comes into a hollow drunk. They gave to oversleep, otherwise it is impossible, dismantling begins from the morning. And he stands or sits and smiles cheerfully. Because:
        55. The following types of disciplinary sanctions may be applied to soldiers, sailors, sergeants and foremen:
        a) reprimand;
        b) severe reprimand;
        c) the deprivation of another dismissal from the location of a military unit or from ship to shore;
        d) deprivation of the badge of the excellent student;
        e) a warning of incomplete official compliance;
        e) reduction in the military post of the corporal (senior sailor) and sergeant (foremen);
        g) a reduction in the military rank of the corporal (senior sailor) and sergeant (foreman);
        h) a decrease in the military rank with a decrease in the military position of corporal (senior sailor) and sergeant (foreman);
        i) early dismissal from military service due to non-compliance with the terms of the contract;
        j) disciplinary arrest.
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        What about disciplinary arrest? But like this:
        - Disciplinary arrest is assigned for up to 30 days for one or more gross disciplinary offenses. If a gross disciplinary offense is an administrative offense, the term of a disciplinary arrest is established within the time limit of an administrative arrest established for such an administrative offense by the Code of the Russian Federation on administrative offenses.
        Who can arrest a soldier?
        Arrest is the most severe disciplinary measure of responsibility. It is prescribed only for serious violations.
        The decision is made by the judge of the garrison military court. The intruder is placed in isolation on a guardhouse.
        Those. practically no one.
        . So it turns out that in the army the most unprotected contingent is junior command officers. Everyone demands from them, but they don’t have any rights.

        Ok, so you will explain to your son when he will be forced to wash his socks in conditional Astrakhan, and he will refuse.
        1. YOUR 21 November 2019 08: 26 New
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          Question??? Who will wash?
          To the officer? I doubt it very much. And what can the same officer do with those who make him wear socks. You there copied an extract from the Disciplinary Rules that I brought. This is what the officer will make reprimands to declare and frighten. And that’s it.
          1. Stas157 21 November 2019 11: 55 New
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            Quote: YOUR
            And what can the same officer do with those

            Since an officer cannot do anything, there is only one way out. Restore justice yourself. Fell offenders (or endure, "heroically", of course). What actually happens.
          2. Leeds 22 November 2019 00: 23 New
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            Quote: YOUR
            Question??? Who will wash?
            To the officer? I doubt it very much. And what can the same officer do with those who make him wear socks. You there copied an extract from the Disciplinary Rules that I brought. This is what the officer will make reprimands to declare and frighten. And that’s it.

            I can be glad that Mother Army, or some of its “charms,” have bypassed you, like a stool in a dream. Successes.
            1. YOUR 22 November 2019 05: 47 New
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              That's for sure bypassed. Some 26 calendars and free as a mouse in the barn.
        2. Nehist 21 November 2019 11: 02 New
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          Short for you !!! You did not serve
      2. APES 21 November 2019 08: 00 New
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        a) early dismissal from military service in

        What do conscripts need to do to get home alive and healthy ahead of time?
        1. YOUR 21 November 2019 08: 28 New
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          Nothing for the conscript, over-conscript to become a violator of military discipline.
      3. jetfors_84 21 November 2019 09: 07 New
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        Until I heard that the officer of any part of the conscripts brought to suicide. Therefore, you’re talking nonsense about the most unprotected officers in the army
      4. garrett 21 November 2019 09: 32 New
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        Everyone demands from them, but they don’t have any rights.

        what nonsense did you write .... this is a problem only for a horseman who does not know how to work with l / s or if there is no healthy officer team in the unit, where everything from the political commander to the platoon commander works with a similar audience.
      5. 2 Level Advisor 21 November 2019 09: 44 New
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        Here they have blamed Vladimir, and in what place is he wrong? He never said that an officer should beat a soldier. But the fact that junior officers are the most unprotected contingent is completely true.
        The senior officer pulled the younger one, gave the order and go do as you like ...
        Ideally, yes .. the officer should have authority to obey him .. but here I have the first comrades, we used super-authority .. but damn .. anyway, I managed to get some drunk and stick with it .. and on the lip .. and we didn’t have a gift in the garrison .. Captain Mosienko gave heat, he could leave it for a second term and a third, fourth .. no one wanted to go there especially ..
        And if there is no lip? and if the summer is only after school, where will he immediately take authority? and if a fighter sends him, but he doesn’t do anything, when will he have authority? NEVER!
        Therefore, I also think, "in the army, the most unprotected contingent is the officers of the junior command staff. They all demand from them, but they have no rights."
        What to do?
        1. Yes, at least return the lip! why can a policeman close a hooligan for a couple of days in a monkeyhouse until clarification, of his own free will, and by 15 - through a judge, the procedure is very simple, about an officer can do nothing similar with the offender?
        2. Make a disciplinary company in the garrison engaged in corrective labor — sweeping, whitening, cleaning, marching — all day and always have a “thank you note” home. Labor ennobles man. And he refused, on 15-30 days of arrest alone. there he distinguished himself - another 30 days .. and the main thing is not to count them in the service life! a maximum of a couple of months, any silk will be and no physical assault!
        What are the bad offers? effective for me! but they won’t introduce them, because these problems are that the generals don’t hesitate, and most senior officers are also not really ... and the younger ones don’t think anyone fell ... go - deal with the personnel, you’re an officer! then all sorts of assaults begin ..
        1. YOUR 21 November 2019 10: 20 New
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          Quote: 2 level advisor
          Yes, at least return the lip!

          Yes, at least the outfits were returned. Just outfits. And that was not long ago in the barracks, they were invited to the day of the Missile Forces and Artillery. It was not convenient for the division commander. Under the beds in the corner are a bunch of pizza boxes. And there are enough beer bottles on site. Easy and simple, the phone is at hand, rang the delivery, ran to the hole in the fence. You can not tell further.
          Aunts are being cleaned in the barracks who want to earn the same money and the same kids to carry vodka and beer. At the checkpoint, reinforced outfits are standing, to get so fucked up for this in my service, an officer and two or even three crickets. But they can’t even examine the soldier, what he is carrying with him, for there’s a call to the prosecutor’s office or to some committee of nulliparous mothers and get it in full. Mocking a child.
          Don’t put them in the outfit, don’t send them to work, it isn’t necessary to put garbage in the territory; To conduct classes, again drill once an hour for one hour, because it is a mockery, etc. The conscript arrives and after a month at most two understands that he will not do anything for him.
          So they break down, beat the faces of the face. Once it turned out to be tamed and the same to the same skimmer, think about 3-4 years older, but the lieutenant comes to the conclusion that order can be maintained by massacre. But he doesn’t get what can happen once, two more he got into the habit and begins to distribute lyuli to the right and left, which leads to a logical result. Turnut from the army at best, and in most cases the court is good if it gets off with a suspended sentence.
          Previously, you could find statistics, but now apparently all this has taken such proportions that everyone has classified it.
        2. Captain45 21 November 2019 17: 20 New
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          Quote: 2 level advisor
          2. Make a disciplinary company in the garrison engaged in corrective labor — sweeping, whitening, cleaning, marching — all day and always have a “thank you note” home. Labor ennobles man. And he refused, on 15-30 days of arrest alone. there he distinguished himself - another 30 days .. and the main thing is not to count them in the service life! a maximum of a couple of months, any silk will be and no physical assault!

          Yes you, my friend, an adviser not of the second, but of the highest level! In all seriousness! good For only labor could make a man out of a monkey, or as they said at the time of my urgent: it does not reach through the head — it will reach through the hands, through the legs. Either drill until it stops, or cleaning up the territory until it drops, you can even read the charter aloud.
      6. Nehist 21 November 2019 11: 03 New
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        Respect to you !!! I will not hide that I myself sometimes applied physical measures
        1. YOUR 21 November 2019 12: 02 New
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          Anything has happened. But the fact is that in those days, if you did this, then for some reason it got to his head that he was wrong. There were other measures of influence on the negligent. they wrote letters home, and arranged collective responsibility. Type of smoking in the wrong place leads to a march of throwing the whole unit.
          Basically, there was enough threat in the kitchen outfit and you won’t be able to get out of the outfits for a week.
          During my entire service, no more than 3 people were put on a haptic shift with me. This is more than 25 calendars.
      7. ccsr 21 November 2019 12: 02 New
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        Quote: YOUR
        The decision is made by the judge of the garrison military court. The intruder is placed in isolation on a guardhouse.
        Those. practically no one.
        . So it turns out that in the army the most unprotected contingent is junior command officers. Everyone demands from them, but they don’t have any rights.

        You painted everything absolutely correctly, and this problem arose in the Soviet Army, when even sending a guilty person to a guardhouse was problematic, because it worsened the performance of the unit, and not all commanders tried to use it.
        You can talk a lot about this, but in my opinion, the only right decision at the present time will be a complete rejection of conscripts and the transition to a contract army, where commanders will not only be able to financially punish military personnel in the amount of, for example 1-3-5 salaries, but also for various reasons, simply terminate the contract with any presumptuous military personnel, from ordinary to senior officers, inclusive. If the crime is more serious, then judge and send to a disbat (purely military offenses), or immediately to a long term in prison, on the degree of guilt. Otherwise, we will never get rid of the various monsters that fall into the army from a citizen or after a military school, and this will happen from year to year. Well, we recently saw the result - a fighter shot several colleagues, including two officers. I am sorry for the dead officers, and I understand that there is also part of their guilt in this, but this incident only revealed the essence of the problem - our army will not be able to get rid of this, until we are interested in serving the best citizens of the country in it, to exclude a forced call people who are not motivated to do military service.
      8. pogis 21 November 2019 19: 04 New
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        The solution to the problem is the abolition of the draft for 5-7 years.
    3. Civil 21 November 2019 07: 22 New
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      All lies, in the army there is no hazing and violence of officers. These are all computer games; military commissariats and committees of soldier’s mothers do not work well. And the news was paid by the State Department.
    4. Flooding 21 November 2019 07: 36 New
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      Quote: Thrifty
      One fact that accidentally reached the court. This is an exception to the rule, because such information leaks are fraught for commanders of units where this happens at the end of a military career, at least.

      Your words are based on assumptions.
      And I, in turn, will assume that such mournful cases are made public not thanks to the commanders of the units, but thanks to the efforts of the injured party. In this case, the relatives of the deceased.
    5. garrett 21 November 2019 09: 25 New
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      One fact that accidentally reached the court. This is an exception to the rule, because such information leaks are fraught for commanders of units where this happens at the end of a military career, at least.

      you do not get tired of sketching))) more than one unit commander will not intend to hide such a case (more expensive for himself). Moreover, if the commander timely reported, ordered an internal investigation, he would not be told a word, the command could not express half a word of negativity, and the culprit would be reinforced concrete and dismissed from the troops. I’m not saying it unfounded, but from personal experience (21 years of service, resigned from the post of deputy commander of OBRON)
      1. Nehist 21 November 2019 11: 13 New
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        Oh well ... Most likely they served at different times .. I have 11 length of service from an ordinary to an ensign !!! And one thing I can say, the majority of officers are very far from the barracks !!! For all my service, it’s not a hassle to endure ... It’s all the more so since there are no real measures of disciplinary action on fighters
        1. garrett 21 November 2019 11: 53 New
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          Most likely at different times served

          Of course, in different ways ... I described the situation over the past 10 years, but in the early 2000s there were secretions and scuffles, as a colleague described
      2. 2 Level Advisor 21 November 2019 11: 35 New
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        Alexei, I’m glad that there are such parts — where everything is correct .. I’ve been talking about the years 90–00 from my experience — if I’m not quite a crime — the commander tried not to take out the information anywhere .. yes, the inspection of the medical personnel was not formal- about bruises, immediately report to the regiment .. but the infa division didn’t leave the regiment, the regiment itself was sorted out .. moreover, the bruises were rare .. and precisely because then you won’t be able to check it first and foremost throughout the division .. I won’t say for other garrisons, but in the evenings there were meetings after school, in conversations, about the same for everyone ..
        P.S. bruises from the inter-bouts usually appear among conscripts nevertheless .. in our unit, anyway
        1. garrett 21 November 2019 11: 54 New
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          Basil, see the answer above for Alexander)
  2. AUL
    AUL 21 November 2019 06: 42 New
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    And someone is against the death penalty ...
    1. Ironcity 21 November 2019 07: 00 New
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      And where does the UK? An alternative to executions is the life sentence, and not the 6,5 years that the court appointed.
    2. Uncle lee 21 November 2019 07: 10 New
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      Some bloodthirsty lieutenant ... Beaten, brought to death.
      1. thinker 21 November 2019 10: 57 New
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        Well, the service obviously didn’t work out - in 36 years platoon commander, starley request
      2. Mytholog 21 November 2019 12: 28 New
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        Quote: Uncle Lee
        Some bloodthirsty lieutenant ... Beaten, brought to death.

        Former starley. Nobody loved him and he began to kill)
  3. Same lech 21 November 2019 06: 42 New
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    I would like to get acquainted with the details of the investigation materials ... I don’t presume to judge a person without solid evidence.
    1. lwxx 21 November 2019 07: 06 New
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      As well as details of a medical examination. As an ordinary officer. Members of the commission must also be held accountable. We had a case, a crew member had a bad toothache on the flight. A local chiropractor said surgery was needed. I had to send to the clinic, but it was in Busan, Korea. Invoice ..... Upon arrival, the company issued an invoice to the doctor who signed the permission to go to sea. They wanted to bring the matter to court, but Boenick paid all the claims. For it will lose the license.
      1. Ingvar 72 21 November 2019 08: 02 New
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        Members of the commission must also be held accountable.

        Experts should do the same, but they still find blood alcohol in children.
    2. SARANCHA1976 21 November 2019 07: 30 New
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      The second thing is rather confusing. Two drunk people in the apartment, one scored the other ... Everything is so ambiguous
  4. lelik613 21 November 2019 06: 57 New
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    How can one "cautiously" cause grievous bodily harm?
    1. Simargl 21 November 2019 07: 05 New
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      How can one "cautiously" cause grievous bodily harm?
      As I believe, if you saw off your leg with all the precautions (anesthesia, dressings, sutures, antibiotics), then this is a serious harm with caution, and if you cut it off with an ax, this is not careful.
      1. lelik613 21 November 2019 07: 10 New
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        This was only lacking in the army ....
      2. Same lech 21 November 2019 07: 10 New
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        As I believe, if you saw off your leg with all the precautions (anesthesia, dressings, sutures, antibiotics), then this is a serious harm with caution, and if you cut it off with an ax, this is not careful.

        Guided by this logic, some judges soften the sentence of the murderers.
        a terrible crime occurred on October 27. A gang of minors broke into a private house, where a 40-year-old man and woman drank alcohol. Teenagers beat a man to death, and a woman was raped. It is noted that adolescents used improvised items for sexual acts, but did not come into contact with the victim themselves.

        On this fact, criminal cases were initiated under part 4 of Art. 111 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (intentional infliction of grievous bodily harm, resulting in the death of the victim by negligence), as well as Part 2 of Art. 132 of the Criminal Code (sexual violence committed by a group of persons).


        What is it ... they broke into a strange house, they beat a man to death and raped a woman ... hehe heh by negligence ... miracles of justice and nothing more.
        1. SARANCHA1976 21 November 2019 07: 31 New
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          I wonder who the parents have jerks
          1. Same lech 21 November 2019 07: 36 New
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            I saw their pictures ... youngsters in appearance, but judging by the faces that were already frostbitten with a bunch of offenses ... they didn’t stop them on time and they got to the murder.
        2. Andrey Shch 21 November 2019 07: 40 New
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          Contradict your post from 06.42. There is not enough media reporting for you, but enough here. Yes, and distort. You yourself give an example that "intentional infliction ....", and then conclude that they stormed, scored and raped carelessly. Well, I agree about the punishment, human life is worth nothing. In our city, not so long ago, one pretzel killed two girls, dismembered, buried. Caught, given 23 years. It seems a lot. But by this time he already had two criminal convictions and out of 35 years of his life spent 17 years in the zone. He will be released before the age of 60 if he doesn’t get off by parole before.
          1. Same lech 21 November 2019 07: 44 New
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            and immediately conclude that they stormed in, scored and raped inadvertently

            This is not a conclusion ... this is sarcasm hi .
            I read a preliminary story about these teenagers ... many witnesses to their outrages ... so preliminary conclusions suggest themselves ... although I agree that I could be wrong.
        3. Simargl 21 November 2019 08: 38 New
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          Guided by this logic, some judges soften the sentence of the murderers.
          Soften ?! Yes, if you shoot these freaks (or just scratch) while protecting your home and home - you can sit for a long time!
        4. Ka-52 21 November 2019 09: 13 New
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          What is it ... they broke into a strange house, they beat a man to death and raped a woman ... hehe heh by negligence ... miracles of justice and nothing more.

          in this particular case, there is no need to be dirty. There is only one article, but different cases fall under it. For example, two drivers did not share the yard roadway. He gave one another a fist in his nose; he stumbled, fell, and hit the back of the head against the curb. Half an hour later he died. Do you mean intentional killing ??? No. And neither murder nor intentional. It is "causing grievous bodily harm, resulting in the death of the victim by negligence." The intention to kill (rather than beat) is completely revealed during the investigation. First of all, intent plays a role. In this case, the instruments of crime are also taken into account. I do not defend geeks, but the interpretation of articles is a well-reasoned case.
  5. rocket757 21 November 2019 07: 28 New
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    Our court, of course the most humane court in the world ...
    Without knowing the topic thoroughly, the judgments are only general.
    Everything happens in the army, just like in society as a whole.
    1. bouncyhunter 21 November 2019 08: 20 New
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      Victor, salute! soldier
      Quote: rocket757
      Without knowing the topic thoroughly, judgments are only general

      That's it . I do not in any way condone the former officer, but we know and see only the tip of the iceberg. "Do not judge, let not you be judged" (c)
      1. rocket757 21 November 2019 09: 08 New
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        hello Pasha soldier
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        "Do not judge, let not you be judged"

        Judging for crimes is mandatory, but only for the case.
        Two things "kill" the order in the army, and indeed the country as a whole! Selective justice, excessive liberalism.
        It is necessary to accustom everyone that for deeds and for words, one will have to answer in exactly the degree that he deserves.
        1. bouncyhunter 21 November 2019 09: 43 New
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          Quote: rocket757
          It is necessary to accustom everyone that for deeds and for words, one will have to answer precisely to the extent that he deserves

          That is why there are proverbs: "Measure seven times - cut once", "The word - not a sparrow: fly out - you will not catch." Every word and deed should be weighed at least a little ...
          1. rocket757 21 November 2019 09: 54 New
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            Quote: bouncyhunter
            Every word and deed should be weighed at least a little ...

            I instill just this to the younger generation.
            It is difficult because the school has ceased to be a subject of education, and even in families, this postulate is not always cultivated.
            1. bouncyhunter 21 November 2019 09: 58 New
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              Quote: rocket757
              the school has ceased to be the subject of education, and even in families, this postulate is not always cultivated

              The bitter truth, my friend ... And this is no longer scary - it's terrible!
              1. rocket757 21 November 2019 10: 00 New
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                If the SCHOOL does not return many of the functions that it performed in the USSR, then we will give up more than one generation of youth to be torn to pieces by all and different!
                It is not even stupid, it is criminal!
  6. Fedorov 21 November 2019 08: 50 New
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    I changed a bunch of places of residence together with Father and Grandfather and myself .. But the last time, as a battalion commander, I turned "to the old man - I hit the damper on the head, I didn’t want to peel the potatoes, like it’s not his profile. And, oddly enough, it helped. And he could have cracked the skull without getting there.
    1. rocket757 21 November 2019 09: 12 New
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      Without strict observance of subordination, violation of the principle of one-man management, the army sets in .... but just the army, the defender of the fatherland. she ceases to be.
      Anything has happened, but these unshakable principles must be respected, upheld, it is necessary .... I don’t talk about methods, it has happened.
      1. Nehist 21 November 2019 11: 19 New
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        So now there is no subordination, the current soldiers, officers especially young even climb into the face ... Unfortunately, these are facts about which they do not speak
    2. Nehist 21 November 2019 11: 16 New
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      Here ... Sometimes these are the most effective measures
      1. rocket757 21 November 2019 11: 49 New
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        What is in the line troops, I will not say, not my circle of friends ...
        Where in the courses, everything is normal, there has always been the norm, the specifics of the contingent, they have never recruited from the mountains ... at least, a technical background, and this has some specifics.
  7. faterdom 21 November 2019 11: 33 New
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    I do not presume to judge this fact, because I do not know and do not own the details. Maybe yes maybe no.
    I can only say that the number of suicides in the army is stable, as in the whole society, and these are not only conscripts, but also all categories. Moreover, the reasons up to some genetic, not studied and incomprehensible.
    We remember the year somewhere in 89-90 m the driver of either a military court or the prosecutor’s office hanged himself. The service is like cheese in butter, an UAZ under your ass, almost free exit (departure) to the city, because the military prosecutor called him or not, there will be no duty officer on duty regarding 10 times a day - there will be no other matters in bulk, and the prosecutor will not understand that. The period of service is either the 3rd or the 4th (then they still served 2 years), that is, no grandfathers or officers beat or tortured. But when he hanged himself in a wood shed outside the territory of the unit, during the investigation, it turned out interesting details that his grandfather, father and elder brother had hanged themselves at one time. Why and why is unknown, but such a hereditary goal in life.
    But at that dashing time, "perestroika-glasnost-army muzzled and ate everyone", this incident went an extra trump card to political throats.
    Yes, and those wise men who deprived the commanders of the right to arrest, I would have been training platoon commanders from thugs and majors for a couple of months, preferably from the Caucasus. And then I would have known their opinion on this matter, whether it is possible to manage and carry out tasks with a single chatter and slogans, and with a personal example. For example, at that time, for me personally, my rights to three days of arrest and my personal good relations with the chief of the guardhouse (the guarantee of "free places" for mine and dopa at the request of the customer) helped to fill my teams and wishes with weight and validity. That is, after one or two times, even the wildest people called up from the Fizuli region of Azerbaijan without knowledge of Russian easily understood my speech and tried not to upset.
    1. ccsr 21 November 2019 12: 21 New
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      Quote: faterdom
      For example, at that time, for me personally, my rights to three days of arrest and my personal good relations with the chief of the guardhouse (the guarantee of "free places" for mine and dopa at the request of the customer) helped to fill my teams and wishes with weight and validity. That is, after one or two times, even the wildest people called up from the Fizuli region of Azerbaijan without knowledge of Russian easily understood my speech and tried not to upset.

      I know how positively the upbringing takes place in a guardhouse, especially if it is located in the famous part, and where the process of re-education is specific:
      ... Of course, such dramatic changes in the human personality puzzled me a little: I would never have believed that a guardhouse could change a person in one day if he had not seen it. I had to turn to brigade officers for clarification, and they told me the story of the famous guardhouse of this compound. She did not represent anything interesting by herself (two or three cameras), but the spirit of the reigning in her was known throughout the 2 Guards Tank Army and enjoyed well-deserved authority among the commanders, both of the division level and lower (the brigade was not far from the army headquarters). There was no better way to re-educate various scumbags in front of whom a disbath loomed (and none of the bosses wanted to bring to this) than this lip. I will say more: it was possible to get into this institution only if the commander had personal friendly relations with the brigade commander and periodically showed him various signs of attention in the form of building materials, spare parts and other trifles, without which military life can not do ...

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  8. bogart047 21 November 2019 14: 38 New
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    and it was necessary for life
  9. Vkd dvk 22 November 2019 01: 15 New
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    So it turns out that in the army the most unprotected contingent is junior command officers. Everyone demands from them, but they don’t have any rights.

    If weak, stay at home. You can hide under your mother’s skirt. Justify the bastard? Court of officer honor in the old Russian army and a bullet in the forehead. That’s the only way to wash away shame