Upgraded T-80BVM Northern Fleet tanks frightened Norwegian army

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Upgraded T-80BVM Northern Fleet tanks frightened Norwegian army

Norwegian army urgently needed new Tanks in connection with the deployment by Russia of 26 modernized T-80BVM tanks on the border with Norway and Finland. This was stated by the head of the communications department of the Norwegian army Per Espen Strand, the newspaper reports. TV 2 Norge.

According to the Norwegian publication, the modernized T-80BVM tanks received by the Northern Fleet of Russia are adapted to the Arctic conditions, and their engines are launched in forty degrees below zero. The speed of the tanks is 70 km / h. It is equipped with a gun with a range of up to three kilometers. The ammunition has a depleted uranium core and penetrates armor with a thickness of 590-630 millimeters from a two-kilometer distance.



The appearance of modernized Russian tanks on the border frightened the Norwegian military and led the Norwegian Ministry of Defense to urgently require the purchase of new armored vehicles, as well as strengthening the defense and strengthening the country's armed forces.

Modern tanks are an integral part of any trustworthy army. Both our allies and potential adversaries are modernizing. This deployment emphasizes that the Norwegian army also needs new tanks, and as soon as possible

- said the head of the communications department of the army, Per Espen Strand.

The publication notes that the army commander Eirik Kristoffersen previously sought to purchase 84 tanks for military needs, and the appearance of Russian modernized tanks can significantly accelerate their purchase.

Today the army is very modest in size and therefore needs to be significantly strengthened. If the authorities do not, our political freedom of action will be limited

- he said.

At the same time, the Ministry of Defense has already received four proposals to strengthen the country's defense capabilities.
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    1. +29
      20 November 2019 11: 33
      What dumb headlines am
      1. +26
        20 November 2019 11: 43
        Quote: zxc15682
        What dumb headlines

        The usual method of distorting information is the joy of manipulating the opinions of its citizens. Simply put, PR and propaganda.
        And the tanks go beautifully under the snow disguise.
        1. +1
          20 November 2019 11: 58
          Local residents simply write with joy when they see tanks on the street of the village. laughing
          1. +9
            20 November 2019 13: 42
            Thanks to the Norwegian media.
            If it weren’t for them, I wouldn’t have known that Russian tanks are armed with depleted uranium core shells penetrating any armor ...
            laughing
          2. +2
            20 November 2019 14: 16
            Quote: zxc15682
            Local residents simply write with joy when they see tanks on the street of the village.

            Especially in the spring they will remember.
          3. -1
            20 November 2019 18: 56
            If as an exception, I would be glad. And if as a rule - then he would change his place of residence)
        2. -2
          20 November 2019 12: 19
          And the liners are already torn off!
      2. +9
        20 November 2019 12: 14
        Judging by several articles, including this one, then, from the tundra to the Japanese seas (Sakhalin), the T-80 is "the worst" of all.
        1. +10
          20 November 2019 13: 35
          Quote: knn54
          Judging by several articles, including this one, then, from the tundra to the Japanese seas (Sakhalin), the T-80 is "the worst" of all.

          Judging by the way we were busy with -30 with a frozen motorbike, and t-80 gnarled merrily into the location, yes, the technique is optimal for the Severs.
          1. -1
            20 November 2019 18: 58
            Quote: tomket
            optimal technology for the North

            Here are just a technique for the north should, in a good way, be trained to swim. Otherwise, maneuver is extremely limited.
            1. +1
              21 November 2019 01: 24
              Quote: Geo⁣
              in a good way, be trained to swim.

              T-72/80/90 / Armata swim? Are you kidding?
              It is equipped with a gun with a range of up to three kilometers.

              What ??
              The tank has a 125 mm smoothbore gun 2A46-1, later 2A46-2 / 2A46M-1, capable of firing guided missiles such as "Cobra", "Invar", "Reflex-M". Direct fire range - 4000 meters, missiles fly up to 5000 meters. The ammunition contains sub-caliber, high-explosive fragmentation and of course cumulative shells with a separate shell charge. The total number varies from tank modifications (38-45 charges).
      3. +2
        20 November 2019 13: 33
        Quote: zxc15682
        What dumb headlines

        I remember how my appearance on the exercises of the t-80BV was frightened by the cordon and command of the battalion.
    2. -2
      20 November 2019 11: 34
      Let the holy fools wander !!!
    3. +14
      20 November 2019 11: 34
      No, well, the title of the article is, of course, Bombic! laughing Massively flee to Sweden ??? what request laughing
      1. +8
        20 November 2019 12: 38
        And the Swedish army has booked a place in Norwegian hotels, open check-in date, in case of a Russian attack. The Russians attacked - and the Swedish soldiers are already in Norway. Who does not have time - just in case, they teach in Russian "I give up" and "I am not a homosexual." soldier request
      2. +2
        20 November 2019 13: 13
        just fled to Sweden, and there the Boreas furrow the Baltic) laughing
        1. +2
          20 November 2019 13: 17
          Quote: skinar
          just fled to Sweden, and there the Boreas furrow the Baltic) laughing

          and not a smallish "puddle" for "Boreys"? winked
          1. +4
            20 November 2019 13: 30
            Nobody prevented them from looking for Dmitry Donskoy in ter.vody, so I think just right)
        2. -1
          20 November 2019 19: 00
          Quote: skinar
          just fled to Sweden, and there the Boreas furrow the Baltic)

          In a surface position, it must be
    4. +8
      20 November 2019 11: 35
      Yeah ... So an adequate response is now considered "scared" ... You will need to remember ...
      1. +10
        20 November 2019 11: 39
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        So an adequate response is now considered "scared" ...

        Is it adequate? And in what way is it "adequate"?
        1. +10
          20 November 2019 11: 42
          Adequate for a potential adversary.
          They do not see Russia as a friendly neighbor.
          And even more so for the military.
          So that a high-ranking warrior missed the opportunity to build up military power?
          Not to life! Unless, of course, he joined the army not from furniture production.
          1. +10
            20 November 2019 11: 45
            Quote: Flood
            Adequate for a potential adversary.
            They do not see Russia as a friendly neighbor.

            And they began to consider us in this status for a very long time and not the appearance of several T-80 at their borders, which is the reason
            1. +4
              20 November 2019 11: 57
              Quote: svp67
              And they began to consider us in this status for a very long time and not the appearance of several T-80 at their borders, which is the reason

              The reason is not tanks. But the reason is they.
              1. +3
                20 November 2019 12: 23
                Quote: Flood
                But the reason is they.

                This is the current "news feed", and so ... everything had already been decided much earlier.
                The main directions of reforming the armed forces are set out in the "Plan for the construction of the Norwegian Armed Forces for the period from 2016 to 2017 and their development for the future" adopted in 2020 by the government and the "Procurement Plan for the Defense Sector for the Period from 2019" prepared by the Ministry of Defense in February 2019 to 2026 ".
                1. 0
                  20 November 2019 12: 34
                  They plan, well, as in the Sivet Union. It is necessary to understand the norms - are they not building northern socialism! wink
                  1. +5
                    20 November 2019 12: 36
                    Quote: bessmertniy
                    It is necessary to understand the norms - are they not building northern socialism!

                    Why BUILD? Already built ... They have their "own" version of socialism, as in Sweden
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                2. +11
                  20 November 2019 12: 50
                  Sergei hi Why are they writing about uranium cores? Do we use these? It seems that the Americans are using them? request
                  1. +3
                    20 November 2019 12: 56
                    Quote: Svarog51
                    Why are they writing about uranium cores?

                    "Creepy" is catching up. So, a dozen tanks are "worse"
                  2. +2
                    20 November 2019 13: 50
                    "Lead-2" - a modified projectile with a uranium core
                    BOPS Lead-2 3BM60 available for the latest modifications 2A46
    5. -1
      20 November 2019 11: 36
      Russia sharply "shook up" the Norwegian military-industrial complex and their army. Brought the Norwegians out of hibernation. laughing
      They created an excellent anti-ship missile, which is now equipped with the US Navy and all of NATO.
      And 50 of the new Ф-35 is also an essential factor.
      1. +12
        20 November 2019 11: 40
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Russia sharply "shook up" the Norwegian military-industrial complex and their army. Brought the Norwegians out of hibernation.

        That would have bought at one time the Swedes T-80, that would not have been afraid of anyone. After all, they tested.
        And there, the norgs would catch up.
      2. +10
        20 November 2019 11: 44
        Quote: voyaka uh
        And 50 of the new Ф-35 is also an essential factor.

        And all this because of the "threat" of several dozen T-80 tanks near their borders ... Cool)))
      3. +14
        20 November 2019 12: 04
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Russia sharply "shook up" the Norwegian military-industrial complex and their army. Brought the Norwegians out of hibernation.

        Let's still distinguish "cause" from "effect". Strengthening Russia's northern borders is exactly the answer to, let's say, the not very friendly policy of its neighbors.
        1. -12
          20 November 2019 12: 15
          And when and in what the Burrows were not friendly to us?
          1. +9
            20 November 2019 12: 32
            Both the USSR and Russia had good relations with the Norwegians. It is only recently that they have bent more under NATO policy. Although, more recently, the Norwegian Minister of Defense stated that Russia does not pose a threat. For which a real wave of criticism fell upon her.
            1. +1
              20 November 2019 12: 39
              That's why I asked the question. The only thing that Normi ​​and I can have any disputes with is in the field of fishing in the Barents Sea. You know what the weather is there, then we get lost there, then we have them. But these issues are resolved quickly and locally, there is no "fanning" not from them, nor from our side. Normal working situation. Why is this "bloating" with tanks - I can't understand ... request
              1. +6
                20 November 2019 13: 02
                Quote: Nycomed
                Why is this "bloating" with tanks - I can't understand ...

                "Give money, give money"! or "To whom the war, and to whom the mother is dear." This is a blood business and nothing personal.
          2. +6
            20 November 2019 12: 44
            About 2 thousand Norwegians died on the Soviet-German front. Like a couple of hundred Swedes near Leningrad.
            And the north of Norway is lit and heated by Russian electricity. Like defense facilities.
      4. -4
        20 November 2019 12: 14
        And the new RCC also drove Japan.
      5. +5
        20 November 2019 12: 19
        I wonder why Russia, in your opinion, "shook up" Norway and other NATO countries so that their military budgets have already exceeded $ 1 trillion and continue to grow, while reconnaissance UAVs and exercises of NATO countries are constantly flying and passing near the borders of Russia?

        Norway and other NATO countries have never relaxed, they dream of a new intervention against Russia, new lands and free access to Russian resources.

        But only ruins and colossal sacrifices will be received, which will be a break for their states.
        1. -1
          20 November 2019 12: 28
          "new lands and free access to the resources of Russia." ////
          ---
          Novegia and money "at least eat your booty" laughing - they can buy any resources, and they cannot master their lands - the country is underpopulated.
          1. +1
            20 November 2019 16: 46
            Norway has its own money from the sale of oil and gas, the production of which is declining, and soon everything will be like in the Netherlands, where the country has turned from an exporter of resources into an importer.

            So, new lands with resources for Norway will obviously not be superfluous.

            Or will you argue that a pair of tank battalions is a threat to Norway and NATO?
            1. -4
              20 November 2019 17: 03
              If the Norwegians have the same as in the Netherlands, then it will be cool! The Netherlands is a super-developed country. Oil reserves are not eternal anywhere: in Western Siberia, the last underground ponds, lost in Soviet times, are scooped in half with swamp water. But do not lose heart! drinks
              Who will break through with his head! fellow
        2. 0
          21 November 2019 02: 16
          what will become a sting for their states.

          Those. Russia will ride in these countries like KrAZ in passenger cars laughing hi
      6. -2
        20 November 2019 12: 27
        it would be better if Russia shook its military-industrial complex as Norvov ... I don’t know what they expect? Norwegians will buy new Leopards2 A7 from KAZ ... because they understand that it’s better to pay 1 million euros for KAZ than to lose a tank that costs 10 million
        1. +7
          20 November 2019 12: 57
          Why what? Let the Americans order Abrams. Those also have a turbine and shells with uranium cores. Yes
          1. +2
            20 November 2019 16: 44
            Sergey, abrams compared to leopards 2 pure rubbish in the harp armored ... the guns of both tanks are identical to the Rheinmetal 120 ... but mobility, security and the availability of spare parts pulls Leo2 far ahead of the abrashka.voot.a for which I got 4 minus I do not know. probably request
      7. +2
        20 November 2019 13: 08
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Russia sharply "shook up" the Norwegian military-industrial complex and their army. Brought the Norwegians out of hibernation. laughing
        They created an excellent anti-ship missile, which is now equipped with the US Navy and all of NATO.
        And 50 of the new Ф-35 is also an essential factor.

        For this, they are promoting a threat from our side, so that the grandmothers shake off all those who have sharply "come out of hibernation". Business. Nothing personal.
      8. +1
        20 November 2019 13: 37
        Quote: voyaka uh
        And 50 of the new Ф-35 is also an essential factor.

        Well, I wouldn’t deal with hatred with f-35.
      9. +1
        21 November 2019 02: 14
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Russia sharply "shook up" the Norwegian military-industrial complex and their army. Brought the Norwegians out of hibernation. laughing
        They created an excellent anti-ship missile, which is now equipped with the US Navy and all of NATO.
        And 50 of the new Ф-35 is also an essential factor.

        recourse again you with your f35 !!! belay wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
    6. +6
      20 November 2019 11: 38
      The publication notes that the army commander Eirik Kristoffersen previously sought the purchase of 84 tanks for military purposes
      And the Minister of Agriculture has not yet asked them to buy tanks for civilian needs? It seems that our Norwegian translator speaks Norwegian better than Russian
      At the same time, the Ministry of Defense has already received four proposals to strengthen the country's defense capabilities.
      And all from Russia)))
      1. +15
        20 November 2019 11: 42
        Quote: svp67
        And the Minister of Agriculture has not yet asked them to buy tanks for civilian needs?

        Uh ... Vertical mowers or anti-aircraft combines? belay
        1. +5
          20 November 2019 11: 44
          Quote: bouncyhunter
          Uh ... Vertical mowers or anti-aircraft combines?

          Rather "stone crushers"
        2. +9
          20 November 2019 11: 50
          Quote: bouncyhunter
          Uh ...

          uh, have you been demoted again, Paul? belay
          1. +15
            20 November 2019 11: 52
            Quote: kjhg
            demoted again?

            Yes . This is harsh reality.
    7. +1
      20 November 2019 11: 39
      So, you still have to drive a couple of hundred cars there. Let them be bought, maybe go bankrupt ...
    8. 0
      20 November 2019 11: 40
      so progress is going on: at the beginning we stimulated them, then they us. From the change of place the essence does not change, the competition continues
    9. +1
      20 November 2019 11: 42
      I thought we had depleted uranium shells not used.
      1. +10
        20 November 2019 11: 48
        Quote: Waltasar
        I thought we had depleted uranium shells not used.

        And they thought correctly, although it was developed. Well, they also need to "scary" catch up
        1. +11
          20 November 2019 13: 03
          When they found out about our tanks, we thought about our own. Well, how will they know about Yars? belay
      2. +6
        20 November 2019 12: 22
        They were still produced in the USSR, but to use, against whom? For the same type, shells with tungsten are enough.
        1. +1
          20 November 2019 13: 06
          As far as I remember, tungsten is better for more powerful and faster projectiles. And for the "classmates" in the USSR, they first made it from uranium, and then from tungsten.
          1. +3
            20 November 2019 13: 20
            BPS with uranium has a higher penetration ability than tungsten, but they are pretty fonent and it is completely undesirable to use them on their territory. So in the United States, after testing BOPs with uranium on a polygon, the topsoil was removed and disposed of. And in Iraq, it’s possible to use the same not the USA.
            1. +1
              20 November 2019 13: 59
              Or in the Balkans ...
            2. -1
              20 November 2019 15: 43
              Depleted uranium has a low background, consider no.
      3. +2
        20 November 2019 12: 56
        Developed, the technology is there, even released (I can not confirm here) some there. But so far there are enough ordinary "crowbars" they are not used, because (here I can’t vouch for the words either) they all glow exactly and harm the crew. And in the event of a global war, we will charge them and how Ooh angry
        1. +4
          20 November 2019 13: 14
          Quote: Romka47
          they all sound evenly and harm the crew.

          There the background is slightly higher than natural, the crew does not sit on crowbars daily and does not breathe dust, it is much more dangerous here.
      4. 0
        20 November 2019 13: 07
        Quote: Waltasar
        I thought we had depleted uranium shells not used.

        Under these crowbars and automatic loader redone, Just the T-72 B-3 boasts.
    10. +2
      20 November 2019 11: 43
      Interesting NATO mathematics. 26 to 84. Of course, I understand that there are not modernized ones there, but if 26 Armat had appeared, then in the Norwegian Ministry of Defense and calculators for 12 digits would not be a cake anymore?
    11. +4
      20 November 2019 11: 43
      It is equipped with a gun with a range of up to three kilometers. Ammunition has a depleted uranium core
      -----
      Did I miss something? sort of as always indicated a range of 4 km. and the uranium core is not used. that is, once such a projectile was developed, but was not launched into a series — we are fighting on our land. Unlike amers. correct me please if I'm wrong
    12. +2
      20 November 2019 11: 47
      They did not frighten, but simply the Norwegian command uses our tanks to fit their own government. Demands to strengthen the armored component came before, but now the Norwegian generals have a clear "trump card" and their curls still have to fork out extra money. And not only for tanks, missile systems and helicopters.
    13. +2
      20 November 2019 12: 01
      Maybe we should sell our tanks to the tax authorities themselves? The main thing for them is to buy faster now, and here we are with a good offer ...
      1. -4
        20 November 2019 12: 12
        The idea, by the way, is a good one. Just do not buy ... wink
        1. 0
          20 November 2019 12: 49
          Yeah. The Americans will impose sanctions and the entire Pension Fund of Norway will be confiscated. And then orphans from Boeing are starving ...
    14. +2
      20 November 2019 12: 03
      Today the army is very modest in size and therefore needs to be significantly strengthened. If the authorities do not, our political freedom of action will be limited

      Okay, pull the warriors a little more for themselves, just to get high! But the population does not understand that they live well also because military spending was limited to a minimum ... there, after all, just start, replace the gun with oil! Appetite comes with eating.
    15. 0
      20 November 2019 12: 04
      The Norwegian army urgently needed new tanks

      old tanks no longer save?
    16. -3
      20 November 2019 12: 10
      What nonsense? 26 not the newest tanks caused an attack of enuresis in a NATO member country?
    17. +2
      20 November 2019 12: 20
      Explain to me . Chet did not understand. What a core from depleted uranium. Like from tungsten were ..
    18. 0
      20 November 2019 12: 20
      The ammunition has a depleted uranium core and penetrates 590-630 millimeters thick armor from a distance of two kilometers.

      Pretty average. All hope for ATGMs.
    19. -4
      20 November 2019 12: 44
      An article from the category "Americans are scary and stupid, but we are smart and beautiful"
      1. -1
        20 November 2019 12: 53
        But could it be otherwise?
    20. 0
      20 November 2019 12: 52
      The Minister of Defense of Narvega, probably had a nightmare, he goes to get into his car, and on top of his T-80 stands and blinks with headlights!
    21. 0
      20 November 2019 13: 01
      in connection with the placement of Russia on the border with Norway and Finland 26 modernized T-80BVM tanks

      Which side? With Finnish? smile
    22. +2
      20 November 2019 13: 06
      Quote: Nycomed
      And when and in what the Burrows were not friendly to us?

      Is joining NATO and hosting bases for storing weapons and other property for "just in case" - not enough? Or when a stake in the head, then you will understand what is harmful? And this is for virtually complete liberation of the north of the territory from the Nazis? Austria, Finland are not very allied states to us, but, nevertheless, they are not in NATO. Who is encroaching on them?
    23. 0
      20 November 2019 15: 39
      stand-afraid
    24. -1
      20 November 2019 15: 42
      Quote: Nycomed
      But could it be otherwise?

      About this channel horseradish TV, the whole day, between Antlantis and humanoids, says. The people believe. We saw how many minuses were thrown.
    25. -1
      20 November 2019 18: 50
      . 84 tanks for military needs
      and for what other needs in Norway is it customary to use tanks?
    26. 0
      20 November 2019 22: 37
      Two days later they will write that our tanks are bad, as they wrote about airplanes and air defense systems. How so? And NATO citizens eat all this
    27. 0
      21 November 2019 09: 48
      Quote: skinar
      Nobody prevented them from looking for Dmitry Donskoy in ter.vody, so I think just right)

      And that is true Yes
    28. 0
      21 November 2019 10: 38
      The modernized T-80BVM tanks of the Northern Fleet scared the Norwegian army ....... So I see all of Norway in the dung from this news)))))) How many loud and pathos headers became, but essentially zilch!
    29. 0
      21 November 2019 18: 10
      "I like" these headlines - "scared the Norwegian army", "Europe in shock", "America was scared", Britain is trembling ", etc. - are you tired?

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