Lech Walesa: Europe is not yet able to accept such a challenge as Ukraine

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The ex-head of Poland (1990-1995) Lech Walesa arrived in the United States, who connected his visit with the 30 anniversary of the “Polish political transformation”. He was received by US Vice President Mike Pence. The former leader of Polish Solidarity also addressed students and faculty at Harvard University.

Walesa's speech contained a significant amount of criticism regarding the current foreign policy position of the United States. After the speech of Lech Walesa, the USA itself stated that “the former Polish president came to the USA to teach Washington details of a foreign policy character.”



According to Walesa, today's world is dominated by politicians-demagogues and populists. He added that “populists and demagogues need to take away their opportunities.” At the same time, the former president of Poland did not ignore the question of Ukraine:

Obviously, there is no Europe without Ukraine. And this expansion of the EU and NATO should happen, but only today Europe does not have such opportunities, Europe has many problems, and it is not yet able to accept such a challenge as Ukraine.

According to Walesa (Nobel Peace Prize laureate, 1983), all European organizations must first be politically and economically reformed.

At the same time, Walesa said that Europe "lost its orientation on the leader, since the USA ceased to be that leader."

Ex-president of Poland:

The United States, first of all, needs to regain leadership. This should be reflected in the policy of interaction with the people, and not in the policy of the dollar and military operations.

Mike Pence said the United States “is doing a lot, keeping an eye on this,” that Valensa retorted:

As a revolutionary, I now see neither ideas nor leadership. The American side reacts to modern challenges and world changes exclusively in the old style, which it seems tested.

As a result, Pence wrote on his Twitter account that meeting with Valencia was an “honor” for him, since Valenza was “an avid advocates of freedom and democracy.”

Penny:

We will always admire the courage of this man who managed to steer Poland into the mainstream of democracy and dismantle the Iron Curtain.

Speaking to members of the American House of Representatives, Walesa said that today's times are "much more complicated than what was 30 years ago."

Walesa:
Almost all areas, and the United States itself, must change. We look at the USA with hope. Hope you generate ideas to help the world. Of course, I would like Poland to become the forerunner of such ideas, but we are too poor and weak for that.
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    1. +20
      20 November 2019 10: 58
      He is tenacious like Gorbachev ... when does Satan take you to his purgatory.
      1. +7
        20 November 2019 11: 02
        Not really ... They will even comment heavily after them. Films about them will be shot. They sowed the dragon’s teeth, which will germinate for a long time, even after their deaths!
        1. +4
          20 November 2019 13: 07
          Walesa:
          Almost all areas, and the United States itself, must change. We look at the USA with hope. Hope you generate ideas to help the world. Of course, I would like Poland to become the forerunner of such ideas, but we are too poor and weak for that.

          It seems that Walesa did not just arrive in Fashington, namely on behalf of President of Poland Andrzej Duda and US intelligence as a pro-American petty-bourgeois-liberal Polish lobbyist on behalf of the so-called "people's diplomacy" with the aim of begging for new credit easing for Poland from the United States and continuing to surrender Poland to the US colonially militarily!

          Russophobe and Polish chauvinist Walesa for the peoples of Poland is a foreign agent and traitor "Gorbachev-2".
          Walesa will also receive money for her betrayal of simple Poles in the form of a fee for her lectures in the USA!
          1. +3
            20 November 2019 13: 47
            I would like Poland to become the forerunner of such ideas, but we are too poor and weak for that

            Correctly he was compared with Gorbachev.
            Only one who despises his country and does not have self-esteem can say that.
            Like Gorbachev, who agreed to appear in commercials.
            Ugh!
            negative
      2. +13
        20 November 2019 11: 02
        Have you noticed that such scoundrels as Gorbachev, Walesa, Rockefeller, Soros, Brzezinski generally live long
        1. +6
          20 November 2019 11: 56
          Quote: Honest Citizen
          Have you noticed that such scoundrels as Gorbachev, Walesa, Rockefeller, Soros, Brzezinski generally live long

          So these energy vampires on the content of Satan feed on other people's lives and blood!
          To Rockefeller, in general, in my opinion, as reported in the media, 6 of other people's hearts were transplanted! And I think that, most likely, hearts that were not selected in advance from the dead.
        2. +1
          20 November 2019 14: 02
          Noticed of course, I hope that there they will find what they deserve. Especially a labeled dog !!!!
      3. +2
        20 November 2019 11: 32
        Quote: The same Lech
        He is tenacious like Gorbachev ... when does Satan take you to his purgatory.

        Or maybe you shouldn’t rush things yet? Maybe he’s still good for something.

        Penny:

        We will always admire the courage of this man who managed to steer Poland into the mainstream of democracy and dismantle the Iron Curtain.

        It was possible to dismantle the iron curtain.

        Walesa:
        Almost all areas, and the United States itself, must change. We look at the USA with hope.

        By logic, the following are for dismantling the United States. Oh, this one is Walesa. Don’t feed bread, let me just dismantle something.
        1. +3
          21 November 2019 01: 12
          Quote: Sky Strike fighter
          Oh, that Valenza. Don’t feed the bread, just let me dismantle something.

          And, in fact, back in 1987 (!!!) Yegor Letov wrote the following lines:
          We are not afraid of Alma-Ata and events in Poland
          After all, there are more and more patriotic heroes every day
          And for a contra, like Lech Walesa
          We will discover Buchenwald and Auschwitz in a new way

          Ah, pardoned for good intentions in 1982, Pan Jaruzelski ... am
      4. +2
        20 November 2019 12: 03
        Yeah, turned Poland inside out, and appeals to the United States. Good patriot.
      5. +5
        20 November 2019 12: 38
        Quote: The same Lech
        ..... like Gorbachev ... when will Satan pick it up ......

        I learned from the article that it turns out that the Nobel Peace Prize received this little one before the tagged one and all the others, which normal people mention with disgust.
        This is the kind of "peace-loving" company that turned out.
      6. +3
        20 November 2019 14: 07
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        when Satan will tidy you up in his purgatory.

        Hell is empty - all the devils are here with us.
        1. +2
          20 November 2019 20: 39
          Quote: iConst
          Hell is empty - all the devils are here with us.

          It is strange why your obvious comment was not supported? wink drinks
      7. +3
        20 November 2019 16: 31
        Quote: The same Lech
        He is tenacious like Gorbachev ... when does Satan take you to his purgatory.

        They don’t take it, because they are afraid that hell will fall apart .. wassat
    2. 0
      20 November 2019 11: 01
      Walesa is now an old senile who wants to take the place of Brzezinski
      1. +2
        20 November 2019 11: 03
        Horseradish radish is not sweeter ... both lived Russophobes ... both are reserved honorable places in a pan with boiling oil.
        1. +5
          20 November 2019 11: 33
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          both are reserved places of honor in a pan of boiling oil.

          They are there for them the second Walesa holds and protects
    3. +2
      20 November 2019 11: 03
      Electrician (Walesa) gives advice ...
    4. +5
      20 November 2019 11: 05
      Hope you generate ideas to help the world. Of course, I would like Poland to become the forerunner of such ideas, but we are too poor and weak for that.
      Now I do not understand, in my opinion, the harder it is for you, the more ideas come into your head. So, it looks like Lech, instead of the words "idea", he wanted to say "money"
      1. +10
        20 November 2019 11: 13
        Quote: svp67
        So, it looks like Lech, instead of the words "idea", he wanted to say "money"

        An attempt to show their significance and loyal attempts. But in fact - begging. Typical behavior for low social responsibility.
        1. +5
          20 November 2019 11: 13
          Quote: bouncyhunter
          Typical behavior for

          "new wave politicians"
          1. +9
            20 November 2019 11: 18
            Quote: svp67
            politicians of the new wave

            Something from this wave brings something indigestible ...
            1. +7
              20 November 2019 11: 31
              Quote: bouncyhunter
              Something from this wave brings something indigestible ...

              Yes, speak directly: "STEADY"
              1. +9
                20 November 2019 11: 39
                I would have spoken about this rotten meat no longer in print, but LOW!
                1. +8
                  20 November 2019 11: 51
                  Quote: bouncyhunter
                  but NOW!

                  Well done, the "site rules" - "the image of morality" and in general we are cultural people wassat
                  1. +10
                    20 November 2019 11: 54
                    Quote: svp67
                    in general we are cultural people

                    And then! It’s good that censorship is not what we think about ... feel
                    1. +7
                      20 November 2019 11: 56
                      Quote: bouncyhunter
                      It’s good that censorship is not what we think about ...

                      As in that "anecdote" ... ".. what a lecherous Pasha you are .."
                      1. +9
                        20 November 2019 11: 57
                        Quote: svp67
                        ".. what are you, Pasha lecherous .."

                        You will not believe, Sergey: I am proud of it! bully
                        1. +11
                          20 November 2019 12: 17
                          pasha hi Well, how can I not remember?

                          P.S. And they let me out good drinks
                        2. +11
                          20 November 2019 12: 23
                          Hi friend! hi
                          Quote: Svarog51
                          Well, how can I not remember?

                          I simply don’t know better than the Soviet film adaptation of The Three Musketeers - this is a classic! good
                        3. +5
                          20 November 2019 12: 28
                          Quote: bouncyhunter
                          You will not believe, Sergey: I am proud of it!

                          drinks good laughing You know how to give the "necessary vector" to the MOOD
      2. +5
        20 November 2019 12: 18
        Quote: svp67
        So, it looks like Lech, instead of the words "idea", he wanted to say "money"

        hi , Sergei.
        "We say Polsca - we suspect money; we say money - we mean the Polish gentry." Country of buying and selling, I know not by hearsay, I worked there during the Warsaw Pact. Yes
        1. +5
          20 November 2019 13: 30
          Quote: Lelek
          Buy and Sell Country

          where to go, where to go .... whom to find, whom to surrender ... wink
    5. 0
      20 November 2019 11: 07
      Poland's politicians go out of their way to demonstrate their importance, want to be the "stronghold" of the United States in Europe
      1. +4
        20 November 2019 11: 15
        Quote: 4ekist
        want to be the US stronghold in Europe

        Yes, they have such a desire, they are clearly tagged for the role of "beholder", at least for "Eastern Europe"
      2. +1
        20 November 2019 11: 33
        Quote: 4ekist
        want to be the US stronghold in Europe

        It is rather a merit of the states. They are very competently, in two moves (solidarity and Maidan), separated Russia from Europe. Created a buffer zone from the Baltic to the Black Sea. With the ability to completely cut the land message.
      3. +2
        20 November 2019 12: 26
        Quote: 4ekist
        Poland's politicians go out of their way to demonstrate their importance, want to be the "stronghold" of the United States in Europe

        And the main thing is to get another "grant"
    6. +4
      20 November 2019 11: 07
      Who, if not Walesa, made every effort to ditch Russian-Polish relations. Moreover, he will teach Europe and the USA how to live together. negative
    7. +1
      20 November 2019 11: 16
      I wonder if he is for Trump or is his ass enough for two chairs?
    8. +1
      20 November 2019 11: 21
      "I would like Poland to become the leader of such ideas, but we are too poor and weak for that" - why didn't you build Poland "from sea to sea" while you were president? And didn't make the Poles a mighty nation? All the trump cards were on hand. And now he teaches everyone, "revolutionary" fucking. "Teach better than your spiders."
    9. +1
      20 November 2019 11: 23
      Litter teaches the owner how to wipe his feet.
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    11. +2
      20 November 2019 11: 50
      Walesa's speech contained a significant amount of criticism regarding the current foreign policy position of the United States.

      They give little, they don’t give at all, but to buy, the toad smothers!
      That's all he wants to / can say ... another disgruntled haberdasher!
    12. 0
      20 November 2019 12: 06
      The old crocodile ran to lick the fifth point of the hosts. ..
    13. +9
      20 November 2019 12: 24
      Marazmatik Walesa criticized the United States during his stay in the United States laughing
    14. 0
      20 November 2019 12: 48
      Obviously, there is no Europe without Ukraine. And this expansion of the EU and NATO should happen, but only today Europe does not have such opportunities, Europe has many problems, and it is not yet able to accept such a challenge as Ukraine.

      I’m obviously different.
      Walesa did not say that such a second challenge, which Ukraine is, after Europe has difficulty digesting the first challenge, which is Poland, can no longer be overcome.
      Leh! I'm sorry! But Bolivar cannot stand two!
    15. 0
      20 November 2019 13: 20
      According to Walesa, today the world is dominated by politicians-demagogues and populists. He added that “their opportunities must be taken away from the populists and demagogues”

      And right there
      Obviously, there is no Europe without Ukraine. And this enlargement of the EU and NATO should happen

      Walesa directly insists on creating new challenges for everyone.
    16. 0
      20 November 2019 15: 40
      What this plumber can say at all. 6
    17. AB
      0
      20 November 2019 15: 43
      Polish President Pan Jaruzelski was too soft and not far-sighted. He did not allow our troops to enter in 88 - 89 years. You look under the guise of heavy armored vehicles Pan Walesa and would strangle him. And even here, after such a suppression of dissent, it would not have grown together with Humpbacked to betray his country, and EBN could hardly come to power. But, as everyone knows, "history does not know the subjunctive mood" ...
    18. 0
      20 November 2019 15: 56
      Even the Poles realized that such a valuable gift as Ukraine in the EU was not needed for nothing.
    19. +1
      20 November 2019 19: 37
      I wonder when Poland will be disposed of, will this old pepper be dumped into the States? Or die with everyone?

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