December meeting in Paris. Ukraine at the Minsk Dead End

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December meeting in Paris. Ukraine at the Minsk Dead End

An agreement on a meeting in the "Norman format" in Paris was reached, but Moscow was in no hurry to confirm this sensation, leaving all the laurels to Europe. This suggests that Moscow does not expect serious breakthrough results from this meeting. To the peak of Kiev, where, as it were, some awesome agreements were expected, or rather, concessions and even surrender to Russia. They have been waiting for this for almost 6 years, since 2014 years.

Is there any hope?


Obviously, Moscow agreed to this summit without any pleasure, at the request of Berlin and Paris: Vladimir Putin has just reiterated Moscow’s harsh stance, which consists in the need for Kiev to comply with the Minsk agreements. While in Kiev they are hoping for some reason to begin the negotiation process with Moscow, they want to conclude some kind of peace agreement with Moscow. Instead of the Minsk agreements. Nevertheless, there is hope that it will be possible to continue the withdrawal of troops in the Donbass. German Foreign Minister Heiko Maas flies with her to Kiev.



In general, the tactics of Russia since 2014 of the year are not to aggravate the situation while it is possible, since the other side is already actively engaged in this. Zelensky’s government, Foreign Minister Priestayko continue this tradition and escalate hysteria, trying to achieve a stronger negotiating position, and then there will be a “hitch”: Russia will refuse to surrender again. As a result, Putin will win again, and Kiev will be mistaken in his calculations, although he tried so hard, he intensified passions. So don’t overstate - and you won’t be mistaken!

Background question


The excitement surrounding this “Norman” meeting has long been fueled by the statements of President Macron and Chancellor Merkel; it was supposedly planned in September tokmo to promote the Minsk agreements. And now, finally, is scheduled for December 9. Otherwise, Paris and Berlin would be in an awkward position, on the other hand, Kiev carried out the withdrawal of troops in three sections. With great difficulty, overcoming the resistance of the Azov Nazis, and this in itself says that the provocative shelling in the Donbass is carried out by the Ukrainian side.

All meetings of the "Norman" experts before this were unsuccessful, if not to say that they ended in complete failure. They are led from Russia by Vladislav Surkov, and this does not bode well for our "Norman" partners. Surkov of the American special representative Kurt Walker “made” so that his “peacekeepers” are no longer remembered. In August, Volker asked Moscow for a meeting in the Donbass, but it did not take place, apparently, Surkov did not find time for Volker.

At a meeting of experts in Berlin, Surkov repeated the position of Russia from the 2016 of the year, inviting Ukraine to fulfill what has already been agreed and signed: withdraw troops in three pilot sites, stop shelling, begin to implement the “Steinmeier formula”, which leads to the recognition of the republics of Donbass and giving special status of Donbass. Today Zelensky began to fulfill what Poroshenko had signed up to, but could he complete the fulfillment of the commitments undertaken by Kiev?

Zelensky's move


We see that President Zelensky lay down under Bandera, as Poroshenko used to be, hence his provocative statements about Crimea, anti-Minh phrases about “militants in the Donbass”, denial of special status and amnesty for Donbass. Zelensky changed his campaign promises, his voters, because the streets of Kiev are completely under the control of Ukrainian Nazi fighters.

Such an entry of Zelensky into the “Bandera consensus” may adversely affect the fate of Poroshenko, who, in general, is becoming unnecessary for nationalists. “The Moor has done his job,” and now you can sacrifice it, and Zelensky will fulfill at least one of his campaign promises. Although Poroshenko himself called the "cynical Bandera"!

Moscow’s tough stance on Kiev’s implementation of the Minsk Agreements leaves Zelensky with no hope of direct negotiations with Putin over a “peace treaty.” Ukraine remains at the Minsk deadlock because its Bandera consensus remains. The economy of Ukraine is collapsing, so the "economist" Kolomoisky speaks with a scandalous interview in the New York Times, in which he urgently urges restoration of ties with Russia. Finally, on 1 on January 2020, Gazprom’s gas transit through Ukraine may end.

The ex-deputy of the Rada, and now the political emigrant and expert Oleg Tsaryov, believes that the fate of Ukraine will be decided before the New Year. It may very well be ...
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  1. +14
    20 November 2019 15: 15
    What time! And the other day, the respected author of VO also remembered that there would be no meeting, because there is nothing to discuss there. And now who to believe?
    1. -1
      20 November 2019 15: 45
      The situation has probably changed, once said the opposite. In general, all this is another hand-twisting and persuasion of our leadership.
      1. +2
        20 November 2019 21: 32
        Quote: 210ox
        In general, all this is another hand-twisting and persuasion of our leadership.

        So "hand-twisting" or "persuasion"? At the same time, such tricks do not work ... You will decide ..
    2. 0
      20 November 2019 16: 01
      Maybe it won’t be! The Kremlin has not confirmed in the media that a meeting is planned .. We agreed to a meeting in a format for a date ... but at the same time, as they said earlier, you need to agree on an agenda, fulfill the conditions .... you can always inform you what to do in the circumstances the meeting is NOT advisable, because ...
    3. +2
      20 November 2019 16: 07
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      And now who to believe?

      only to those who admit their mistakes.
      Neither this nor that did not recognize their errors in the forecasts. And they’ve done it several times already.
      Apparently we are not worthy of recognition in the fallacy of forecasts for Ukraine.
      Must blindly believe. And faith does not need proof!
      According to "Bandera" immediately knew the author's handwriting .. The one that just recently prophesied ... and did not come true.
      More into the heading of humor is the analysis of Kamenev. Or in propaganda material. But the quality is weak.
      Bandera, Nazis, Natsiks ... Putin, RF wines everywhere. Ukraine fell apart, froze, nobody needs it ...
      Pleased with the author's message about the peace treaty? With a hangover .. having Crimea and ORDILO it is so convenient to put pressure on these corns of the Russian Federation ... and she can’t refuse.
      disassemble Kamenev’s analysis is like with windmills.
      Yes, at least he admitted, he took into account his mistakes ..
      be careful with forecasts ...
      Although we must admit the theme "Ukraine" has been feeding the author for 5 years ... and not only him.
      1. +10
        20 November 2019 16: 32
        Quote: Antares
        Although we must admit the theme "Ukraine" has been feeding the author for 5 years ... and not only him.

        This topic feeds and blocks everyone and everything!
      2. +3
        20 November 2019 19: 11
        Although we must admit the theme "Ukraine" has been feeding the author for 5 years already ...
        ... And the elections in the USA? laughing A bottomless barrel ... laughing
      3. -1
        20 November 2019 19: 27
        Quote: Antares
        Or in propaganda material. But the quality is weak.

        Well, why? The author's thesis that "the Azov Bandera are opposed to breeding, and this is proof of the provocative shelling of Donbass" is already a "pearl" laughing .
      4. +2
        20 November 2019 20: 14
        Quote: Antares
        Apparently we are not worthy of recognition of the fallacy of forecasts for Ukraine. We must blindly believe. And faith does not need proof! More Kamenev’s analysis slides into the heading of humor. Or in propaganda material. But the quality is weak. Yes, at least I admitted, I took into account my mistakes .. be careful with the forecasts ...
        Forecast is not a sentence. And there is no such genius whose forecast would coincide completely. In general, a more or less confident forecast can be given only for a country that has sovereignty in political decision-making, at least partially, which Ukraine simply does not have, since all your "evil vlada" consists of collaborators serving the interests of an external manager. All previously made forecasts coincide only in one thing, namely, that with the transition to external control, the process of degradation of the Ukrainian statehood will proceed at an accelerated pace. What you, together with the Americans, have done with Ukraine in 5 years, you would have to achieve another quarter of a century under normal conditions of deriban. And so, well done, dismantling you are in full swing. Minsk gives you a chance to keep the remnants of your state within its existing borders and at least somehow start to recover, but you stubbornly do not want to do this, believing that "Ameryka z usi" and "the West will help us." Will not help. Kamenev is right, there will be no breakthrough at this meeting because everything that was prescribed and signed earlier was not stupidly fulfilled by ukraine due to the incapacity of the authorities, and the next meeting in this format may not be because due to non-fulfillment of the decisions reached, the legal recognition of the republics will follow and the topic will disappear simply because you will have to exchange not notes, but credentials with new subjects of international law. Georgia jumped and Ukraine jumped.
        1. 0
          21 November 2019 13: 04
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          Kamenev is right, there will be no breakthrough at this meeting since everything that was prescribed and signed earlier was stupidly not fulfilled by Ukraine in connection with the incapacity of the authorities, and there may not be another meeting in this format since because of the failure to comply with the decisions reached, legal recognition of the republics will follow and the topic will disappear simply because they will not have to exchange notes, but credentials with new subjects of international law. Georgia jumped and Ukraine jumped.

          Kamenev is right is something new. The genre of science fiction.
          Legal recognition of the republics? By whom?
          The same fiction. There’s already a way PMR is called. (Because the path of Abkhazia is fraught with sanctions)
          They will dance on MC2 for a long time. What is the Russian Federation that the EU.
          Let tired, but the Russian Federation spends not so much money while transit in limbo.
          Moreover, the privatization of profits and the nationalization of losses are evident.
          1. 0
            22 November 2019 10: 32
            Quote: Antares
            Legal recognition of the republics? By whom?

            Enough recognition and one state. Russia is not Vanuatu for you, recognition on its part will also lead to the conclusion of agreements on friendship, economic and military cooperation and interaction, etc. etc. with all the ensuing consequences that will need to be taken into account both by Kiev and its curators.
            Quote: Antares
            There is already путь Transnistria is called. (For the path of Abkhazia is fraught with sanctions)
            But this is still the way. Unlike the PMR, the LPR has a common border with Russia - these are completely different possibilities. Sanctions? An unpleasant factor, but as time has shown, positive in the sense that they were a "life-giving kick" in the government's ass, forcing it to take up import substitution issues and had a positive effect at least in terms of improving food security.
            Quote: Antares
            Will dance on MS2 long. What is the Russian Federation that the EU.

            What is this?
            Quote: Antares
            Let tired, but the Russian Federation spends not so much money while transit in limbo. Moreover, the privatization of profits and the nationalization of losses are evident.
            What tired and what we spend little money while transit in limbo ... In the process, your thoughts fell into the peak hi
    4. +8
      20 November 2019 16: 35
      The author always hesitates with the line of the party, and for this purpose will pull any owl on the globe.)))
      1. +11
        20 November 2019 16: 59
        And pulling an owl on a globe.
        In an attempt to paint a pen,
        The author gave us this opus ...
        I have nothing to say...
    5. BAI
      +4
      20 November 2019 17: 00
      the author of VO broadcast that there would be no meeting

      This article appeared on the day when the media reported that the Kremlin confirmed the meeting on December 9th.
      1. +2
        20 November 2019 18: 54
        Quote: BAI
        This article appeared on the day when the media reported that the Kremlin confirmed the meeting on December 9th.

        article Why will not-wrote Staver.
        But there it is streamlined --- it seems to me, I think, and so on ...
        but this is under the heading "Analytics !!!!" posted ... as analytical material (in general, now "I think" and "I think" are equated to analytics)
        Glory to the Cosmos - that Kamenev was placed under the heading "Opinion". I'm entirely on the side of the editors here. It is high time.
        1. +4
          20 November 2019 22: 08
          Glory to the Cosmos - that Kamenev was placed under the heading "Opinion". I'm entirely on the side of the editors here. It is high time.

          It's just that the headings "Blizzard" weren't done. According to A.P. Chegovu "... hotly, excitedly, but not clear."
    6. 0
      21 November 2019 13: 01
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      What time! And the other day, the respected author of VO also remembered that there would be no meeting, because there is nothing to discuss there. And now who to believe?

      Well, certainly not Kamenev. He always adapts to the Kremlin trends.
  2. -2
    20 November 2019 15: 15
    The darkest will endure to the last, quietly issuing passports to the residents of New Russia. In the end, the moment will come and the republics will recognize and that’s it. They clatter with Ukraine because of transit, when the issue settles in one way or another, the issue will be resolved more easily.
    1. +7
      20 November 2019 15: 30
      They are clinging to and clinging to Ukraine not only for transit. The West needs a meek and obedient Russia, and for this purpose the VNA project will continue as a parasite, preventing the body from living normally.
  3. +5
    20 November 2019 15: 18
    Poly-emigrant and "expert" Tsarev-weathervane ordinary. Somehow, he was not visible in Donetsk with a machine gun, but in Moscow he settled. Yanukovych # 2Yes, and time will tell who is in what impasse. For some reason, only the Kremlin is persuaded.
  4. +5
    20 November 2019 15: 20
    .. Ukraine remains at the Minsk deadlock because its Bandera consensus remains.

    unfortunately not in such a radical form. but the trend will continue
    Finally, on January 1, 2020, Gazprom’s gas transit through Ukraine may end.


    Gazprom lost more than $ 2009 billion in January 2 due to the suspension of transit through Ukraine. Russia's budget depends on oil and gas supplies to Western Europe. In the West this is well understood.
    Europe has prepared for possible problems with Russian supplies, the EU plans to expand LNG receiving terminals and build new ones, increasing its total capacity by 22 billion cubic meters by 2023. Merkel regularly mentions these plans when it comes to Nord Stream 2 and Germany’s growing dependence on Russian gas. With a full load of existing terminals, Europe will be able to accept LNG in a volume comparable to what Russia supplies today. In addition, Merkel has always linked the construction of a joint venture with the preservation of transit in Ukraine.
    There will be a twisting of hands to Gazprom.
    1. -1
      20 November 2019 15: 41
      Europe has prepared for possible problems with Russian supplies, the EU plans to expand LNG reception terminals and build new ones, increasing the total capacity by 22 billion cubic meters by 2023.
      All this is great.
      Only!
      Still need to build.
      And survive three more winters without frostbite.
      Now, if it goes "with a bang", then Merkel is a clever, beautiful and worthy woman.
      But if everything goes wrong?
      That respectable burghers will sing
      One pleases.
      Emigrants from sunny Africa will first run home. good
      1. +4
        20 November 2019 16: 06
        Quote: demo
        Now, if it goes "with a bang", then Merkel is a clever, beautiful and worthy woman.

        and successful manager, misfire only with the Papuans
        Quote: demo
        Emigrants from sunny Africa will first run home

        I think the Germans are ready to freeze for this
        Quote: demo
        Only!
        Still need to build.

        will be built and crushed because of Ukraine, because:
        1. It is unclear whether the full loading of the joint venture is possible?
        2. Ukrainian transit in this case is inevitable
        3. preservation of Ukrainian transit - shifting the funding of "nenko" from the shoulders of the EU to the Russian Federation
        1. -1
          20 November 2019 16: 16
          it is unclear whether the full loading of the joint venture is possible?
          2. Ukrainian transit in this case is inevitable

          who is not clear ??? take an interest in this case))) ukrotransit is inevitable, the question is the volumes of this transit, i.e. 25-40 billion cubic meters with busy northern streams
          1. +5
            20 November 2019 16: 17
            Quote: Garrett
            ukrotransit is inevitable, the question is the volume of this transit, i.e. 25-40 billion cubic meters with busy northern streams

            true, that's just the size of the transit depends on the ability to load a full joint venture, and this just does not give
            1. -5
              20 November 2019 16: 20
              colleague, I’m not a gambler, but I would bet a certain amount that by 2022 the flows will be 100% loaded)))
        2. -2
          20 November 2019 16: 18
          Here's how JV 2 will be completed, and we'll see who blinks first.
          1. +6
            20 November 2019 16: 18
            Quote: demo
            Here's how to complete the joint venture 2

            until they finish building, and winter in 10 days
            1. +3
              20 November 2019 16: 22
              Maybe Merkel has inflatable LNG terminals in the store? How do we have models of military equipment?
              That will take and "frighten" us with such! For three days, half of Germany is in the terminals.
              I just think that in the Kremlin many heart attacks will get. Miller is definitely a stroke! What would it be ....
              1. +7
                20 November 2019 16: 31
                Quote: demo
                Maybe Merkel has inflatable LNG terminals in the store? How do we have models of military equipment?
                That will take and "frighten" us with such! For three days, half of Germany is in the terminals.
                I just think that in the Kremlin many heart attacks will get. Miller is definitely a stroke! What would it be ....

                well said. Bluff is a great thinglaughing
    2. +1
      20 November 2019 16: 06
      But what about the Northern then 1 and 2 and Turkish, do they really not cut off supplies through Ukraine?
      1. +8
        20 November 2019 16: 10
        Quote: Alexander Galaktionov
        But what about North then 1 and 2

        The battle is over the possibility of its 100% load. Poland and Ukraine benefit from its 50% load and therefore it is being pulled under the third energy package.
        Quote: Alexander Galaktionov
        Turkish

        only for turkey
        1. +3
          20 November 2019 16: 12
          Will it pay for itself for Turkey? And then there is the question of the Power of Siberia at what price we sell to the Chinese?
          1. +3
            20 November 2019 16: 17
            This mystery is terrible! Sovereign! We did not report!
            1. +2
              20 November 2019 16: 19
              It’s like with the supposedly Chelyabinsk meteorite State secret level 1 tolerance!
              1. 0
                20 November 2019 16: 40
                Well, the authorities do not want to strain us, ordinary people, with all sorts of passions.
                Well, he flew, well, something hit him, well, he fell into a dead lake, well, after a year, all the poisonous deposits of the lake, which had been accumulating for half a hundred years, suddenly disappeared.
                Well, what's wrong with that?
                This is not the billions of any colonel generals to be transported by trucks.
                That's where it is interesting!
                That's how we live.
                We have - we do not value, we lose - we cry.
        2. NKT
          +1
          20 November 2019 19: 04
          Second thread for Europe, 15.75 billion m3
    3. -3
      20 November 2019 16: 10
      Gazprom now has a plan for a gas pipeline, the power of Siberia to China will soon start + Turkish flow, and LNG terminals are an excuse for staff members whose gas through these terminals they will receive another question I can and it’s ours cheaper and they can count money. So everything is not so clear.
    4. +4
      20 November 2019 16: 10
      And, they noticed that recently, with forecasts, Platoshkin has increasingly begun to love short adjectives: most likely, perhaps ...

      Quote: Silvestr
      Gazprom lost more than $ 2009 billion in January 2 due to the suspension of transit through Ukraine.

      But Gazprom needs to think with its head fool with whom what contracts to sign and then, on whose judicial jurisdiction to rely

      Quote: Silvestr
      The EU plans to expand LNG reception terminals and build new ones, increasing total capacity by 22 billion cubic meters by 2023. .

      To plan winked doesn't mean ... getting married. Some of us, after the election, planned to carry out an economic breakthrough of unprecedented scale.

      Quote: Silvestr
      Merkel regularly mentions these plans ...

      It’s only very soon that the shepherd’s daughter herself will be mentioned (and it is still unknown with what words)
      1. +5
        20 November 2019 16: 13
        Quote: Terenin
        Platoshkin increasingly began to love short adjectives: most likely, perhaps ...

        I think that no one can say "for sure"
        Quote: Terenin
        Gazprom needs to think with its head

        correctly say, but for now, alas, I lost all the courts with banderstadt
        Quote: Terenin
        Some of us, after the election, planned to carry out an economic breakthrough of unprecedented scale.

        there is such a thing hi
      2. 0
        21 November 2019 08: 40
        "noticed that lately, when making forecasts, Platoshkin increasingly began to love short adjectives:"
        And why doesn’t he use them something: ??? request
    5. +1
      20 November 2019 17: 41
      Quote: Silvestr
      Gazprom lost more than $ 2009 billion in January 2 due to the suspension of transit through Ukraine.

      Lost or missed? These are slightly different things.
  5. +4
    20 November 2019 15: 47
    The ex-deputy of the Rada, expert Oleg Tsaryov, believes that the fate of Ukraine will be decided before the New Year. It may very well be ...

    Well, this is hardly No. . Tsarev is another expert winked ... Only the next series "Weddings in Malinovka" will end in Ukraine
    1. +2
      20 November 2019 16: 15
      Quote: Terenin
      Well, this is hardly
      He has quite extensive connections in Ukraine, he may have more information than some vaunted experts and political scientists. And for the DLNR, he is not "pretty", like many former regionals. The eldest son (24 years old) and daughter (22 years old), as "it should be" for the people's deputies, live in England!
      1. +1
        20 November 2019 16: 36
        Quote: Vladimir61
        He has quite extensive connections in Ukraine, may have more information than some vaunted experts and political scientists.

        May be. I don’t know about connections. I only remember "... Russia has become an outsider. And, apparently, in the next period of time the front line will move to the territory of Crimea and Russia," O. Tsarev said in an interview with Notes.
  6. 0
    20 November 2019 16: 07
    From experience we know who will bend in negotiations crying public money will be wasted in Paris
  7. BAI
    +5
    20 November 2019 16: 58
    Finally, on January 1, 2020, Gazprom’s gas transit through Ukraine may end.

    Nothing will end. Negotiations have already begun on direct deliveries of 15 billion cubic meters to Kiev in order to "reduce transit for reverse." Transit is a done deal! He will!
    1. -2
      20 November 2019 20: 43
      Transit is a settled business! He will!
      This is not a fact yet. Let's wait and see. Another thing is important. It is important that ukriya is no longer the main transit country and will never be again. Frau Merkel, with a quiet glanders, with a tight smile turned Germany into a gas hub and a main transit country (in case of exclusion of a pipe coming out). profession. Transit for a year is not a panacea for the Sumerians. This is a postponement of the fuel sentence and nothing more.
  8. 0
    20 November 2019 17: 06
    Quote: BAI
    to "reduce transit for reverse"

    This is Aesopian language.

    For direct deliveries, Ukraine will have to pay Gazprom directly. A trick with "sucking" the passing gas (once again - there there is no possibility of physical reversal, it is virtual) will not pass. And this is good.

    This does not mean that transit through Ukraine will continue. As, however, does not say the opposite.
  9. 0
    20 November 2019 17: 11
    Although Poroshenko himself called the "cynical Bandera"!
    With him, too, how to deal with Bandera, but only more cynically?
  10. 0
    20 November 2019 18: 48
    Found a good, piercing verse on the net.
    1. 0
      20 November 2019 18: 50
      An excellent poem by Alina Baeva about the "second cheek":
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      2. +1
        20 November 2019 19: 03
        The author is Alina Baeva.
        "No answer"
        The country neighbor is dancing on the bones,
        No matter what the night we have on the promok battle
        Only we were charged with unresponsiveness
        And they are proud somewhere out there ...
        A series of Norman formats,
        Minsk meetings have not erased the trail.
        Only our army soldiers
        Still can not give an answer.

        And to drive the enemy would be happy
        With the land weary of war
        And then go home in a parade,
        Until the end, not believing that they could.
        Not fate ... And long nights
        Expect the time will come -
        The Donetsk people will stand up and go forward
        For victory with shouts of "Uraaa".

        In the meantime, they shoot straight at us,
        Crush provoking a fight
        We got hands unresponsive
        We are going as if for slaughter.
        We are all brothers, we honor God's covenants,
        Cheek would turn, but alas,
        Beat for a long time, swipe, unrequited
        So that there is no head left ...

        Thank you, Alina Baeva, for the verse.
        1. +3
          20 November 2019 19: 05
          Thank you, Alina Baeva, for the verse. New Russia is, you hear, it will be part of Russia, otherwise everyone will die for indifference.
          1. +1
            20 November 2019 19: 12
            And what is left of it is not a large part of the LPR and LPR?
            1. +2
              20 November 2019 20: 04
              Kronos, to begin with, start a war of liberation, considering yourself a Russian, or other by nationality, but in the union of the peoples of Russia, start a war of liberation within yourself, everyone. If not on the battlefield, then, if possible, send translations to volunteers (assistance to wounded soldiers of Novorosiya, etc.). There is absurdity in society, on TV - all over the world to the main temple of the armed forces in Russia, guys: "If everyone is worth a ruble" - I agree that the business is good. But not one advertisement where: "Guys, if everyone is a ruble for Donbass (Novorossiya), everything is for the front, everything is for Victoria!" Get used to being Russian! This is what other liberals fear the Chubais. Or maybe they are not afraid, because while the advantage is on their side. Or...
              Example: Your relative lives in Alma-Ata and comes to visit you. And you, Kronos, to him: "How are things in the city VERNY (Our Russian city!). You discuss news with your neighbor on the bench, he tells you:" What is there in the Donbass? ", And you tell him:" In Novorosiya "...
              Teach each other the Russian perception of your country, the World, start a liberation war within yourself, etc.
              If your child learns homework (subject "History"). Theme - the Great Patriotic ...
              And you take an interest in what he teaches, what topic and tell him that there were villains Bandera, etc. And now there are heroes fighting for New Russia, and tell us that there is a land of heroes - a land that refused to swear allegiance to fascism.
              Start a war of liberation within yourself!
              In the morning I got up, well, you have no money, you cannot send it to the volunteers of Novorossiya, ask God to help, to intercede for the long-suffering Russian Land. Ask sincerely. Do it every day - it's just a minute's business. I got to the "feast" and when the next toast is offered to those who are not with us, you remember for Novorossia, for the dead nurse Anya, who saved the wounded Russian soldiers of the Novorossiysk Volunteer Corps and died in her third month of pregnancy. Do not hesitate to be Russian (GREAT RUSSIANS, MALORUSSIANS, BELARUSIANS AND OTHER INDIGENOUS PEOPLES OF WEEKLY RUSSIA).


              RESPECT FROM Eugene.
  11. -2
    20 November 2019 20: 36
    Yeah ... The bloomers are out of luck. Negotiating with Surkov is difficult. The former "brothers" will be spinning like in a frying pan. And Euro-Panamas are not interested in Euro-slaves.
    1. +1
      20 November 2019 20: 53
      The author is Alina Baeva.
      "No answer"
      The country neighbor is dancing on the bones,
      No matter what the night we have on the promok battle
      Only we were charged with unresponsiveness
      And they are proud somewhere out there ...
      A series of Norman formats,
      Minsk meetings have not erased the trail.
      Only our army soldiers
      Still can not give an answer.

      And to drive the enemy would be happy
      With the land weary of war
      And then go home in a parade,
      Until the end, not believing that they could.
      Not fate ... And long nights
      Expect the time will come -
      The Donetsk people will stand up and go forward
      For victory with shouts of "Uraaa".

      In the meantime, they shoot straight at us,
      Crush provoking a fight
      We got hands unresponsive
      We are going as if for slaughter.
      We are all brothers, we honor God's covenants,
      Cheek would turn, but alas,
      Beat for a long time, swipe, unrequited
      So that there is no head left ...

      Thank you, Alina Baeva, for the verse.
    2. 0
      20 November 2019 20: 59
      Alina Baeva: How to love the Motherland

      "Love your Motherland, my friend, so endlessly, unaccountably" -
      Suddenly they wrote to me in chat rooms, demanding a report for something.
      I was asked to describe the fullness and brightness of feelings,
      How I love Mother Russia
      meaningless and artless.
      How her great ideas guide me everyday
      That for her is leisure and labor, that she lives and is sick.
      And if you need to give everything, quit everything, fulfill the command, then for her mother Russia, our whole generation will die ...

      And what to answer, I don’t understand, what does the nation and race have to do with it,
      We are conducting a Russian war for the benefit of the Russian Donbass.
      And all love is inside, it cannot get away from us.
      Do not believe it - just look, hiding in a ball in the heart ...
      Why fuse, why rush, our world will not be strong from them,
      We will overcome the cliff, guided by the scrapie,
      Going to the touch in the dark, finding the way through the crumbs ...
      But what about pathos? It is for those who impose a path on many
      From blood, pain and fire, and himself from the side of the calm
      Screaming that she believes in me, blessing me in these wars
      And amusing their values, proud of themselves and admiring themselves,
      It requires love from others, not understanding, not reckoning.

      It's so good to love online - uncompromisingly and in absentia,
      Think through pages design, scribble pamphlets on a quiet night,
      Not understanding what is outside, beyond their periphery,
      Those who live on fire, those who are not pathetic in love, live in war,
      And just like that, because here, because the Russians are in the blood ...
      This is the sincerity of all unintended love.
      For the Motherland, the soul sings, it is hope and reward,
      That's just how to love her, to teach, please, do not.
      1. -2
        20 November 2019 21: 13
        Alina Baeva, thanks to her! For good poems!
        New Russia is a part of Russia!
  12. +1
    21 November 2019 22: 38
    Where is the proof of the thesis? The Foreign Ministry and the FSB are denying charges of stealing toilets. And who will believe them? These toilets with panties will hang on the fence. This is called a dead end. How did they come to this?
  13. 0
    25 November 2019 19: 39
    There is nothing to do at this “meeting”, therefore there is nothing to meet. Russia will be confronted with the fact of recognition of “aggression” in Ukraine, and they will try to force it to accept Crimea as one of the issues under consideration. We can’t oppose anything to the Germans, except to give someone on the ears and slam the door. But the French have no business whatsoever, unless you can philosophize with them.