An industrial miracle in the USSR of the 1920-30's


The current economic model in the world is such that as soon as the crisis begins to manifest itself in the American economy, a negative wave immediately spreads over the financial and economic space of almost the entire planet. Mortgage or insurance crises in the USA - immediately the stock market crash begins, shares of companies from Singapore and Shanghai to Frankfurt and London go to the red sector (fall sector).


But this was, of course, not always. One example is the American Depression (Great Depression) of the 1920-30's, when millions of Americans lost their jobs, companies went bankrupt one after another, production fell. But at that very moment, the USSR economy showed such growth rates that China and India, taken together, could envy today. One of the reasons for the Soviet economic boom is Soviet industrialization, which, as it turned out, is usually relegated to the media in the media - for countless reports and reports on “tyranny” and the repressive machine.

Talking about the time period of 20-30's on the Day TV channel, Nikolai Sapelkin notes that to this day there is a frankly erroneous opinion that Stalin had already concentrated all power in his hands. Sapelkin recalls the existence of an executive body - the Soviet government - the Council of People's Commissars, whose chairman at that time was Rykov. Therefore, it was a powerful work of a powerful team of business executives, in which the role of Joseph Stalin was, of course, one of the most significant.

In just a few years, the country turned into a powerful industrial giant, and this factor was not the last in the victory over Nazi Germany in 1945. Stalin's industrialization has become a real miracle, which might not have happened.

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  1. Amateur 19 November 2019 15: 30 New
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    We are 50-100 years behind advanced countries. We must make good this distance in ten years. Either we do it, or they crush us.
    This is what our obligations to the workers and peasants of the USSR dictate to us.

    Stalin I.V.
    On the tasks of business executives. Speech at the First All-Union Conference of Workers of Socialist Industry
    4 February 1931 city
    1. Svarog 19 November 2019 15: 36 New
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      In just a few years, the country turned into a powerful industrial giant, and this factor was not the last in the victory over Nazi Germany in 1945. Stalin's industrialization has become a real miracle, which might not have happened.

      We now have all the opportunities for such a breakthrough, now there are even more of them (opportunities) .. a lot more .. But for this we need a leader in the country, corresponding to I.V. To Stalin.
      1. URAL72 19 November 2019 16: 27 New
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        Well yes. Good king and magic wand, somewhere I already heard it. What did he do for the country, not for himself? More king?
        1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk 19 November 2019 17: 05 New
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          Quote: URAL72
          What did he do for the country, not for himself?

          He is not a king, to do more king. If in my post, in my post I did what I should, then this is already more than what our leader did.
          1. vladimirZ 19 November 2019 17: 19 New
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            One of the reasons for the Soviet economic boom is Soviet industrialization, - from an article

            I.V. Stalin played a crucial role in the life of the USSR, but the main thing all the same was that there was a socialist state, a planned national economy, a communist ideology of social justice for the whole people, which ensured the successful socialist construction of the Soviet Union and the growth of its economy under the leadership of the Communist Party.
          2. Dart2027 19 November 2019 19: 59 New
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            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            If in his post, in his post he did what he should

            I sometimes hear that they say "I know for sure, I work there, propaganda on TV, but in practice ..." At the same time, I always have a question - if you work there, then this is your problem, not the president?
            1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk 19 November 2019 21: 04 New
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              Quote: Dart2027
              Moreover, I always have a question - if you work there, then this is your problem, not the president?

              What does it mean - my problem? :))) Every person can do something in life, tend to something. And if I like the work and it works well, then I mean - in my place. And what kind of problem can I have here? :)))
              But the trouble - the same thing applies to the president of the Russian Federation .... But to say that he succeeds in his work will be a great sin against the truth. I do not argue that Putin has achievements, but on the whole he was unable to solve a number of the country's most important problems and greatly aggravated the existing ones, which does not allow him to be considered a “kingdom” successful.
              1. Dart2027 19 November 2019 22: 05 New
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                Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                What does it mean - my problem?

                Quote: Dart2027
                if you work therethen this is your problem, not the president
                If you listen to some, then the president, or at least the minister of defense, must personally mount the pipes on the ships under construction.
                1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk 20 November 2019 18: 02 New
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                  Quote: Dart2027
                  If you listen to some, then the president, or at least the minister of defense, must personally mount the pipes on the ships under construction.

                  If you listen to a little more reasonable people, then the president should not have repeated the one-party system of the CPSU in the guise of United Russia and should have put in control the economy of people who are capable of doing this. The USSR went to stagnation for several decades, Putin went this way in just a decade.
                  And I assure you, it is not necessary to have 7 spans in the forehead in order to understand that the Central Bank cannot be managed by a person who has not worked a day before. And that the Ministry of Economic Development cannot be headed by a person who has not left the manufacturing sector, but from the banking structure.
                  The president, like any manager, does not have to be a pro at everything and do everything for everyone, this is impossible. The president must understand the people and form a pro team that will do everything that is needed. Putin could not
                  1. Dart2027 20 November 2019 22: 03 New
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                    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                    then the president should not repeat the one-party system of the CPSU in the face of United Russia

                    Yes, it’s a moot point. I generally do not believe that in any countries there can be real, and not in public, rival parties. Just because in this case they will only spend their energy squabbling with each other. In the USA, only the country that they bomb and that’s all can change from a change of presidents.
                    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                    The USSR went to stagnation for several decades

                    But as Stalin died, a gradual collapse began.
                    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                    The president must understand the people and form a pro team that will do everything that is needed.

                    We have problems with the pros, because any appointment at the ministry level is politics ..
                    1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk 21 November 2019 19: 48 New
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                      Quote: Dart2027
                      Yes, it’s a moot point. I generally do not believe that in any countries there can be real, and not in public, rival parties.

                      However, this is a reality.
                      Quote: Dart2027
                      Just because in this case they will only spend their energy squabbling with each other.

                      So they spend :))) At the same time, each party sleeps and sees how to sit the other and put their appointees in any state / municipal post. And this creates a dirty, dishonest competition, in which the one who is better does not always win.
                      But in one-party, everything turns out even worse.
                      1. Dart2027 21 November 2019 20: 58 New
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                        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                        However, this is a reality.
                        Yes, how to say. I don’t remember something, that after the next election, something would change somewhere, in fact, as I already wrote
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        In the USA, only the country that they bomb and that’s all can change from a change of presidents.
                        and this can be attributed to any other country.
        2. knn54 19 November 2019 17: 21 New
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          Oleg, "He took Russia with a plow, but left with an atomic bomb."
          Or (translation inaccuracy?) - with a nuclear reactor.
        3. illi 19 November 2019 17: 27 New
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          Why do we need a king and a magic wand. Enough for the Secretary General))
      2. Alexander Ra 19 November 2019 17: 51 New
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        Quote: Svarog
        We still have all the possibilities for such a breakthrough, now there are even more of them (opportunities) .. a lot more

        Unfortunately, less. Compare the work ethic of a peasant country (the beginning of the 20th century) and today's ethics, blurred by permitted parasitism and hedonism, "breaking through alone." This is more important than anything else. What can raise it, ethics, to the same strength for a jerk? Not everyone has run into Turkey, have not ate enough comfort. Mirages of European brilliance will still be blind for a long time, until we begin to save our strength for self-reinforcement, and not scatter them on prestige and pleasure.
      3. APES 19 November 2019 18: 01 New
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        became a real miracle to

        There are no miracles. They helped develop the industry of the USSR, helped Germany. Then they pushed their foreheads to stay with one bloodless enemy ...
        1. raw174 19 November 2019 18: 58 New
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          Quote: APES
          became a real miracle to

          There are no miracles. They helped develop the industry of the USSR, helped Germany. Then they pushed their foreheads to stay with one bloodless enemy ...

          And who helped? Anunaki?
          1. APES 19 November 2019 19: 06 New
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            Who

            Stalingrad Tank Plant, if interested, find out how it came about. As an example ....
            1. raw174 19 November 2019 19: 17 New
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              Quote: APES
              Who

              Stalingrad tank factory, if interested, find out how it came about. As an example ....

              Well, enlighten ... For example, our ChTZ was built according to the technology purchased in Detroit by American engineers and produced exact copies of American tractors, the same with MMK and ChelPipe ... But no one helped the advice, everything was generously paid for in gold, just business. Or do you personally, buying a meat grinder in the store, think that the owner of that electronics store feeds you and your family of cutlets?
        2. Svarog 19 November 2019 19: 43 New
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          Quote: APES
          Helped to develop the industry of the USSR,

          What a naive comment .... USA helped .. wassat To whom exactly did these gopniks help for free? It’s not help to call it and Ravil’s rights is a business .. but the industry and the breakthrough of the USSR were provided precisely by Stalin and the peoples of the USSR
          1. APES 19 November 2019 20: 28 New
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            What naive

            Fools also paid Gopnik, because they themselves could not. And you are so smart - why are you so poor, but a fuss?
            1. Svarog 19 November 2019 20: 30 New
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              Quote: APES
              why are you such a beggar, but a scandal?

              laughing They made fun ... I’m a beggar .. I’ll buy you, sell you, and then I’ll buy you again laughing
              1. APES 19 November 2019 20: 43 New
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                Quote: Svarog
                Quote: APES
                why are you such a beggar, but a scandal?

                laughing They made fun ... I’m a beggar .. I’ll buy you, sell you, and then I’ll buy you again laughing

                Flag in hand, spend your savings usefully :)))) + 7 (963) 722 27 82
                1. Svarog 19 November 2019 20: 44 New
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                  Quote: APES
                  Flag in hand, spend your savings usefully :)))) + 7 (963) 722 27 82

                  Unfortunately, you are an asset, not a liquid .. and there is no need to buy you ..
                  1. APES 19 November 2019 20: 57 New
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                    Quote: Svarog
                    Quote: APES
                    Flag in hand, spend your savings usefully :)))) + 7 (963) 722 27 82

                    Unfortunately, you are an asset, not a liquid .. and there is no need to buy you ..

                    Fortunately, you, as a backdrop, are not at all interesting to me ...
            2. raw174 19 November 2019 20: 51 New
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              Quote: APES
              Fools also paid Gopnik, because they themselves could not.

              How do you yourself? Have to buy something? Or do you make EVERYTHING yourself at home? Or are parents still providing? Normal practice, no one, bought from someone and used ...
              1. APES 19 November 2019 20: 58 New
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                How do you yourself?

                Get lost :)))
    2. ALEXEY VLADIMIROVICH 20 November 2019 07: 39 New
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      Thanks to the American engineers and industrialists who rebuilt the Soviet industrial miracle in the USSR of the 1920-30s !!! Glory to the Soviet prisoners who unselfishly worked on the construction sites of socialism!
      The Stalingrad Tractor (Tank) Plant was entirely built in the USA, then dismantled and transported to the USSR on ships.
      The famous Dneproges was built by the American company Cooper Engineering Company and the German company Siemens
      Gorky Automobile Plant (GAZ) was built by the American company Austin.
      AZLK - built by Ford engineers
      Magnitogorsk is an exact copy of a steel plant in Indiana.
      Albert Kahn Inc alone designed and built 500 Soviet enterprises!
      In just 10 years, the Americans built in the USSR nearly 1500 factories!
      200 American engineers and technicians came to the USSR and built what Stalin was then proud of for many years.
      In 1926, Hugh Cooper was invited by the USSR government and was appointed chief consultant engineer for the construction of the Dnieper Dam. He took an active part in the design of the Dnieper (1927).What is the undoubted superiority of the Soviet state? The fact that capitalists are building socialist industry with the hands of prisoners!
      1. Alexander Ra 20 November 2019 14: 41 New
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        Do not forget to remind yourself of the superiority of the USA, England, etc.
  2. Gardamir 19 November 2019 15: 31 New
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    And yet, when they say that there were many foreign specialists who supposedly built everything. They had a crisis and let them rejoice that at least in the Union they gave work.
    1. raw174 19 November 2019 19: 06 New
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      Quote: Gardamir
      And yet, when they say that there were many foreign specialists who supposedly built everything.

      Well, yes, there were their projects and products were produced according to their best practices (the same ChTZ), but they did it for money ... There is no other reason, just business ...
  3. Fevralsk. Morev 19 November 2019 16: 00 New
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    And for our dancer, for 20 years now, something has been interfering. Either the crisis, then sanctions, now there is no time for buildup, and not so long ago I learned that someone was sniffing.
    1. Greenwood 20 November 2019 05: 06 New
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      Quote: Fevralsk. Morev
      no time for buildup
      He has 20 years "no time for buildup." lol
  4. maden.usmanow 19 November 2019 16: 00 New
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    Unfortunately, after the death of Stalin, the modernization of all industries was not carried out.
    Enterprises were stuck in the 30s and 40s.
    1. raw174 19 November 2019 19: 20 New
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      I agree. In the 80s, the Union was again technologically backward, especially in the civilian sector ...
  5. erased 19 November 2019 16: 11 New
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    This is not a miracle. This is the hard work of the Soviet people for the sake of a future life and freedom!
    1. Pessimist22 19 November 2019 18: 04 New
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      Now you understand that industrialization is the hard work of millions of people for nothing, for the sake of ideas and even for food in the 20s and 30s there wasn’t enough food, I remember how Pavel Korchagin worked in one boot and thought: “The most precious thing in a person is life. It is given to him once, and it is necessary to live it so that there is no excruciating pain for the years spent aimlessly, so as not to burn shame for the petty and petty past, so that, dying, he could say: all life and all forces were given to the most beautiful thing in the world - the struggle for the liberation of mankind. And we must hurry to live. After all, an absurd illness or some tragic accident can interrupt it. "
      "As the Steel Was Tempered"
      By the way, the events in Ukraine now resemble the events of that time, only now it’s not the Petliurites who are robbing Jews, but the Jews of Ukraine.
  6. Mcar 19 November 2019 16: 37 New
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    Talking about the time period of the 20-30s on the Day TV channel, Nikolai Sapelkin notes ...

    An extremely interesting and informative lecture. Thanks for meeting an apparently interesting person! It will be necessary to get acquainted with the work of Sapelkin.

    Yes, indeed, everything was, as they say, thin, and if not for Stalin, the Soviet economic miracle of the 30s could not have happened. Comparing that great decade with two worthless present ones, you begin to understand what feats our people are capable of when they see the goal and when the leaders are at the same time.
  7. Procopius Nesterov 19 November 2019 16: 39 New
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    It was just that the crisis and its bottom occurred in the USSR in the 20s. First, 10 lost years from 1917 to 1927, when industry was initially destroyed by 90 percent. After 10 years, it was torn to carry out industrialization.
    Now we’ll simply calculate, for example, cast iron.
    In 1913, 4,2 million tons of pig iron were produced; in 1937, 14.5 million tons were produced.
    What growth rate should the capitalist Russian Empire have to have in order to reach the same result by 1937? We take a compound interest calculator and it turns out that it is only 5 and a half percent per year. This is a very low indicator for the country. Railway grew by 7 percent per year on average.
    I’m not talking about thousands of factories in the Russian Empire that produced the goods people needed, and that would develop quite naturally, but not with distortions that led to a constant shortage of necessary goods in the USSR.
    By the way, the 5-year plans were before the revolution. It was planned, in particular, to build 30 miles in the railway in 1917-1922.
    1. Foul skeptic 19 November 2019 17: 36 New
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      Now let’s calculate

      here it is necessary to consider not "elementary", but correctly.
    2. Mcar 19 November 2019 17: 39 New
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      Quote: Procopius Nesterov
      What growth rate should the capitalist Russian Empire have to have in order to reach the same result by 1937?

      There could be no growth rate for the "capitalist Russian Empire" until 1937. Because RI itself would no longer exist. To think that an interim government, i.e. a handful of morphine Freemasons could rally the people and withstand the onslaught of foreign intervention, and then conquer what they captured, only a person with great imagination can.

      Quote: Procopius Nesterov
      We take a compound interest calculator and it turns out that it is only 5 and a half percent per year. This is a very low indicator for the country.


      Exactly a very low rate? And if you take the sophisticated calculator again?


      Especially on cast iron, RI took off like a rocket, yeah:


      Quote: Procopius Nesterov
      I'm not talking about thousands of factories in the Russian Empire

      No matter how many thousands of these factories, there were fewer engines than the factories themselves. All - steam, oil, gas, electric. This means, if, say, there were dozens or hundreds of engines on Putilovsky, then, therefore, tens or hundreds of factories did not have a single engine. Nothing - a vice, a rasp, a rotor, etc. etc. Compare such "factories" with giant plants of the first five-year plans are simply incorrect.

      Anyone can see for himself: http://istmat.info/node/26498
      We select any group of factories, open and read who the owner is, how many rubles the factory produced, whether the engine was, how many people worked, etc.
      1. Procopius Nesterov 19 November 2019 18: 11 New
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        Very good data was given there, the production of pig iron is even more than I thought.
        It can be seen from your tablets that cast iron production almost doubled every 12 years. It is not difficult to estimate that by 1937 it would have been produced more than under the communists.
        Nicholas II left behind 100 thousand schools, this is stated in Soviet statistics and their number in the 20s only decreased, as did funding, according to the Bolsheviks themselves.
        As for the intervention, are you talking about when the Bolsheviks invited the British and French troops to Arkhangelsk and Murmansk? Or when they turned to the USA for help?
        1. Mcar 19 November 2019 18: 16 New
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          Quote: Procopius Nesterov
          Nicholas II left behind 100 thousand schools

          Ek, you turned down: "left behind."

          How much Tsarist Russia was not involved in education can be judged by only one such fact - only 1 (one) percent of subjects continued to study above the initial one. What else can I talk about? Left behind ...
          1. Procopius Nesterov 19 November 2019 18: 26 New
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            About the number of schools, this is Soviet data and not mine, under Stalin, high school education was paid.
            As you can see, tsarist Russia was engaged in education, the fact that you do not know how education developed and how it was planned, it only means that you are not interested in it and do not read documents, but you read propaganda communist agitation.
            As you can see here, not one percent of those who continue to study, if you look at the numbers.
            1. Mcar 19 November 2019 18: 37 New
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              Quote: Procopius Nesterov
              the fact that you do not know how education developed and how it was planned, it only means that you are not interested in this and do not read documents, but you read propaganda communist agitation.

              I did not know that the data of a single census in the Republic of Ingushetia are called communist agitation.

              The text review of the materials of the first general census of 1897 says: “With a higher education than primary, there were 1 individuals in the entire empire, or only 364%. In particular, among males there were 143 or 1,102% of the male population and 848 female or 932% of all women. It must be borne in mind that the figures given do not exhaustively indicate the number of people who have truly completed their education, but they only indicate that so many of them studied at various institutions, and how many of them graduated are unknown». A general set of empires on the results of the development of the data of the first general census of the population, made on January 18, 1897, St. Petersburg, vol. I, p. XVII

              PS. Interestingly, are all bourgeois so lazy or through one?

              Here is this “can there be evidence about 90 percent of the capital?”, I went in different ways, over the past five years, I read it two hundred times at different sites. No, I would understand if knowing whether it was so or not would be tantamount to unloading a coal car. Not everyone can handle it. But here, after all, it’s not coal with blisters, here you can feel the “clave” with your fingers.
              Remember, and better write down - this is a military proletarian secret, and the bourgeoisie is forbidden to know this.
              1. Procopius Nesterov 20 November 2019 11: 27 New
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                1897 years passed between the census of 1917 and 20. And the dynamics for improvement are clearly visible.
                In 1914, 7 million 236 thousand people received primary education, an average of 565 thousand, vocational 267 thousand, and higher 125 thousand.
                565 + 236 + 125 = 926 thousand
                It turns out that from 7 million 236 thousand, then 12,79 percent of students remained to receive education. Progress from 1897 to 1914 is obvious and the growth rate is excellent. So your thesis that tsarist Russia was not involved in education is fundamentally wrong.
                She was engaged in what Lunacharsky, Krupskaya and other Bolsheviks recognized at their congresses in the 20s.
                Here is what Lunacharsky writes about paying teachers, below on the screen.
                As for communist propaganda, they all convinced everyone that tsarist Russia was backward, they depicted a complete absence of schools, etc. But it turns out that there were 100 thousand schools with teachers receiving a salary.
    3. at84432384 19 November 2019 17: 40 New
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      In the Republic of Ingushetia, up to 90% of the capital belonged to foreign owners and certainly did not work for the country. And not everything was produced. What can we say about aircraft engines, when upgrading the fleet, armor, guns, steam engines were bought abroad. During the war, not only equipment, but also ammunition was delivered from the Entente countries. Russia's debt after the war was such that it would hardly be possible to pay off. How all this happened can be read in the book of General A. Nechvolodov. From ruin to prosperity. 1906. There is an Internet. That is why in 1917 the General Staff of the Russian Army placed on the Bolsheviks, and not on the bourgeois parties, which were preparing Russia for sale. Without the Second World War, Russia would not have been there, what is there to try to simulate “how its economy would have grown in N years if ...” By the way, the Bolsheviks not only built factories and factories, but also built schools and hospitals, opened research institutes and universities, invested in the development of culture and art. Entered an 8-hour work day. Here the current RF is like two drops like RI — the same dominance of TNCs, nothing of its high-tech is produced, only oil, gas, raw materials and terrible unpunished corruption. The reason is the same - the elite is much nicer to live on the Cote d'Azur and teach their children in London.
      1. Procopius Nesterov 19 November 2019 18: 17 New
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        First, can there be evidence about 90 percent of the capital?
        Second, now all over the world it is called foreign investment and the inflow of capital, for which everyone is so struggling creating conditions for this. Enterprises, jobs and taxes are being created.
        Nothing was done? This is a communist propaganda that has settled in the head of many, especially people who cannot open and find a list of factories of the Russian Empire.
        1. at84432384 19 November 2019 18: 50 New
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          One could speak of “communist propaganda” in the years 80-91, and then it somehow passed. Now there is simply no doubt that it was just babble. Now propaganda, so propaganda! When a stupid DAM constantly broadcasts about "foreign investments", then a person who has never studied economics and trusts his high post (well, the prime minister cannot understand anything!) Begins to think that we really need them. Only foreign countries cannot do without foreign investment (and that, only during the initial development period). A person who has money for an apartment, but who takes money in a mortgage for 30 years at 10% looks like an idiot in the eyes of others, and the prime minister of the state, which has half a trillion reserves, dreams of "external investments" that are not only expensive, but also bind their hands . Maybe, maybe a big salary in another state. The first is also quite possible, I recently learned that not all officials in the Ministry of Finance know the difference between credit emissions and monetary ...
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  8. rocket757 19 November 2019 17: 37 New
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    What to say. A miracle was performed by our ancestors ... it is worthless to lag behind them.
  9. Pavel57 19 November 2019 18: 19 New
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    There is always a combination of the possibilities of external, objective and internal, including specific individuals.
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  11. nikvic46 22 November 2019 07: 09 New
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    This is unlikely to be found in history. So that 10 years after the revolution, the country was able to begin construction of the first stage of the Dnieper hydroelectric station.