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Russia is ready to assist Turkey in the development of a modern fighter

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Russia does not exclude the provision of assistance to Turkey in the creation of a last-generation fighter; there is experience in joint work of the countries. This was stated by Director of the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation of Russia (FSVTS) Dmitry Shugaev.


According to him, Russia and Turkey are currently conducting technical consultations and negotiations on the 4 ++ generation aircraft, as well as the first test consultations on the fifth generation. The Russian side does not exclude its participation in the Turkish project to create an fifth-generation fighter by Ankara, but it is premature to make any statements about the beginning of substantive negotiations on this topic.

Given the existing competencies in the production of our fifth-generation aircraft, Russia could participate in this project, in particular, such cooperation is possible on a number of aircraft systems

- He said, adding that this issue is only at the consultation level.

At the same time, Shugaev noted that Russia could, if necessary, supply Turkey with a fifth-generation Su-57 fighter, but only after the initial needs of the Russian Aerospace Forces have been met.

The question of the possible supply of Su-57 to Turkey can be considered only after the initial needs of the Russian army in fifth-generation fighters are met

- he explained.

In addition, Russia is ready to work out the issue of supplies of Turkey to Su-35 if Ankara shows interest in them.
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  1. Honest Citizen
    Honest Citizen 19 November 2019 13: 53
    +6
    If we put aside emotions, this proposal is nothing more than a complete separation of Turkey from Washington, and accordingly from NATO
    1. bessmertniy
      bessmertniy 19 November 2019 13: 55
      0
      We must forge Erdogan while it’s hot! wink
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 19 November 2019 13: 58
        +6
        I support. Turkey must be torn from NATO. And NATO is easier, and Turkey is calmer.
        1. Sky strike fighter
          Sky strike fighter 19 November 2019 14: 06
          +8
          Quote: voyaka uh
          I support. Turkey must be torn from NATO. And NATO is easier, and Turkey is calmer.

          And Israel will become calm. Without NATO support, Turkey, one of Israel’s main competitors for influence in the Middle East.
        2. Svarog
          Svarog 19 November 2019 14: 13
          -4
          Quote: voyaka uh
          I support. Turkey must be torn from NATO. And NATO is easier, and Turkey is calmer.

          Do you want to put all the financial burden on Russia ..?
          1. Edik
            Edik 19 November 2019 15: 02
            -1
            Quote: Svarog
            Do you want to put all the financial burden on Russia ..?

            What are you talking about again, Vladimir?
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 19 November 2019 15: 04
              +2
              Quote: Edik
              Quote: Svarog
              Do you want to put all the financial burden on Russia ..?

              What are you talking about again, Vladimir?

              That Turkey will not be able to tear away anywhere .. and we will spend a lot of money on this "breakaway" ...
              1. Edik
                Edik 19 November 2019 15: 09
                -3
                Quote: Svarog
                The fact that Turkey cannot be torn anywhere ..

                That stupid Americans did not disdain F - 35 to sell (spend) on the Turks! And it will be too expensive for them to sell the SU! Are you eloquent about this? And the big question is who is more profitable to be friends with us or with them!
        3. Altona
          Altona 19 November 2019 14: 40
          +1
          Quote: voyaka uh
          I support. Turkey must be torn from NATO. And NATO is easier, and Turkey is calmer.

          --------------------------
          Lesha, the Russian Federation in Syria has solved all the tasks for the defense of Israel in liberation from ISIS. You yourself have not even scratched yourself. It was not for nothing that Benjamin traveled to Moscow constantly. The Turks now hold the Russian Federation for personal belongings "Turkish Stream" and can now demand at least a goldfish. Surely this is a requirement to provide air defense and aviation technology. By the way, the Turks got their "security zone" in Syria, actually a pro-Turkish enclave in Syria and a springboard for pressure on the Kurds. That's all. Therefore, stones are thrown at the Russian patrols.
          1. Karen
            Karen 19 November 2019 14: 55
            0
            Quote: Altona
            Turkmen now hold the Russian Federation for personal belongings "Turkish Stream" and can now demand at least a goldfish

            Yes, not now ... This is a long story ... More than once an example was a full-page article from K. Zatulin about 10 years ago, where he pointed out that the whole foreign policy of the Russian Federation was built by E. Primakov, and that the main emphasis there was to work for Turkey ... (just Zatulin did not pay attention to the anthropological data of this puppeteer).
            1. okko077
              okko077 19 November 2019 15: 30
              +1
              One policy, empty verbiage ... What can we offer Turkey also taking into account the truncated export option ... New radar - NO ... New engine - NO. New visual and thermal systems- NO! Advanced Electronics -NO! All this can compete with American aircraft, not to mention reliability? Will they change the nomenclature of weapons? It's funny ...
          2. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 19 November 2019 15: 22
            -3
            ISIS in Syria defeated together: 1) Turkey in the north 2) Assad and Russia in the center 2) Kurds and America in the east.
            There were no ISIS in Idlib and the city of Aleppo.
            Russia, mainly, helped Assad defeat the Islamists in the Damascus region and near Aleppo. Both Iran and Hezbollah are in the city of Aleppo.
            Israel, together with Egypt, is fighting with the ISIS branch in the Sinai.
    2. Sergey39
      Sergey39 19 November 2019 13: 55
      -4
      This will be a test blow to NATO.
    3. Lopatov
      Lopatov 19 November 2019 14: 02
      +8
      Quote: Honest Citizen
      as Turkey’s complete separation from Washington, and accordingly from NATO

      There will be no "separation", Turkey will not take such a step because of Cyprus.
      But on the other hand, they are quite capable of significantly complicating the life of NATO. Blocking decisions beneficial to Americans.
    4. Keyser soze
      Keyser soze 19 November 2019 14: 12
      -8
      nothing but a complete separation of Turkey from Washington, and accordingly from NATO


      This is the case when we have a win-win situation. Take the Turks to their health and everyone will be happy.
      1. Honest Citizen
        Honest Citizen 19 November 2019 14: 16
        0
        This is the case when we have a win-win situation.

        And Erdogan, who already realized that Turkey will not be taken to the EU, after win-win will make another win: he will launch refugees to Europe.
        1. Keyser soze
          Keyser soze 19 November 2019 14: 35
          -2
          Erdogan, who already realized that Turkey will not be taken to the EU


          This was understandable and 20 years ago.

          will launch refugees to Europe.


          And in 5 minutes we will close the border, as Hungary did. And in 10 minutes, the EU will close trade with the EU and everything with the Turks. Ende. Eto you are not tomatoes .... Take Erdogan to yourself in the suburbs. Or where you collect them there. laughing
          1. Honest Citizen
            Honest Citizen 19 November 2019 14: 41
            +1
            Eugene, just do not be offended.
            You will not close the border for the reason that the owner of your president, from Washington, will simply forbid him. For the simple reason that the trouble in the EU is also beneficial for him.
            1. Keyser soze
              Keyser soze 19 November 2019 14: 59
              -5
              Eugene, just do not be offended.
              You will not close the border for the reason that the owner of your president, from Washington, will simply forbid him.


              :) Yes, I'm not offended at all. And here the President does not close the borders - there is a Government on it :)
              1. Pete mitchell
                Pete mitchell 19 November 2019 22: 08
                +1
                Quote: Keyser Soze
                - there is a Government :)

                You are funny Eastern Europeans, it seems big, but you believe in fairy tales.
                Read the history of Europe and the last 40 years so, pay attention to the processes of migration and refugees, find a lot of interesting things. For example, the Warsaw block has saved you and other Eastern Europeans from this infection.
                And about bending down Turkey - it's even more fun, look carefully at Germany ...
      2. Sky strike fighter
        Sky strike fighter 19 November 2019 14: 20
        +1
        Quote: Keyser Soze
        nothing but a complete separation of Turkey from Washington, and accordingly from NATO


        This is the case when we have a win-win situation. Take the Turks to their health and everyone will be happy.


        Seriously? Are you giving them to us? belay Now we’ll only find a larger bag so that all the Turks fit in it. fellow
        1. Keyser soze
          Keyser soze 19 November 2019 14: 40
          -1
          Now we’ll only find a larger bag so that all the Turks fit in it.


          I slapped you plus, because I respect the sense of humor .... drinks
      3. Karen
        Karen 19 November 2019 15: 46
        -1
        Quote: Keyser Soze
        Take the Turks to their health and everyone will be happy.

        They’ll take it from them ... So, they took away Ukraine, making Khazaria out of it ... Then things will go even easier with the Khazars ...
    5. Sky strike fighter
      Sky strike fighter 19 November 2019 14: 18
      0
      Quote: Honest Citizen
      If we put aside emotions, this proposal is nothing more than a complete separation of Turkey from Washington, and accordingly from NATO


      I think late. Turkey will not redesign TF-X.

      “We will complete all work in the coming years. There will be no delay. I can’t give you an exact date, but our priority goal is to make the first flight (of a fighter) in 2023, ”the head of the Turkish military department said.
      According to him, many foreign partners of Ankara are involved in the implementation of the project, including British companies. In carrying out such large projects, Turkey does not intend to cooperate with only one foreign partner, since being dependent on one country, “you may encounter various problems at certain stages of the project,” Minister Janikli explained.

      https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2017/11/28/turciya-planiruet-osushchestvit-pervyy-polyot-istrebitelya-tf-x-v-2023-godu
    6. Per se.
      Per se. 19 November 2019 14: 22
      -1
      Quote: Honest Citizen
      If we put aside emotions, this proposal is nothing more than a complete separation of Turkey from Washington
      If you put aside common sense, not emotions. Well, Japan is not a member of NATO, South Korea, is this easier? We sell natural raw materials, and boldly trade the Soviet military heritage, squeezing the latest developments, using Soviet experience from engineers and designers. Tear Turkey away from NATO, but the States do not need NATO anymore, they need a local war for Europe and Russia, without responsibility for the United States. In general, first they would have fed their Air Force with new machines, and after that they would rush to sell, traders.
    7. the most important
      the most important 19 November 2019 16: 51
      +3
      Quote: Honest Citizen
      If we put aside emotions, this proposal is nothing more than a complete separation of Turkey from Washington, and accordingly from NATO

      If we put aside emotions and look sensibly, it will be clear that Turkey cannot be torn away from NATO. And all these "Blue Streams", nuclear power plants at the expense of Russia, air defense, aircraft of the best models, this is nothing but flirting with Turkey and the creation on the southern flank of a modern, industrialized and UNPredictable state with an UNPREDICTABLE ruler. Is China not enough for us in the east? We also need a strong Turkey in the south ??? And this is called strategic policy ??? Strategic policy is when efforts are made (albeit not explicit) to create Kurdistan on the territory of Turkey. Under this, one could even give the desert around Qamishli to Kurdistan, and in return receive prosperous provinces along the sea coast for Syria. Turkey is at enmity with all of its neighbors. There are unsettled territorial problems with everyone. In the future, Turkey could remain a small province without access to the sea. But the straits should become Russian! And instead, any whim for Turkey, and even for Russian money! Well, where is common sense and strategic thinking? And the debts will be written off again. Well, the country is rich .. the population is really just half-impoverished.
  2. Evil 55
    Evil 55 19 November 2019 13: 53
    +3
    This ambush is dangerous for all interacting parties .. Also, considering that Turkey is a very unstable supporter, and to deceive "giaur" is only in honor ..
  3. rocket757
    rocket757 19 November 2019 13: 59
    +1
    Russia does not exclude the provision of assistance to Turkey in the creation of a last-generation fighter; there is experience in joint work of the countries.

    In general, that is temptation. About the prospects to argue not ah, nothing is clear.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 19 November 2019 14: 03
      +5
      Quote: rocket757
      In general, that is temptation.

      Rather, Washington and Brussels are just trolling.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 19 November 2019 14: 05
        +3
        Quote: Spade
        Rather, Washington and Brussels are just trolling.

        So why not? A useful thing for anyone!
  4. Operator
    Operator 19 November 2019 14: 08
    +9
    Su-57 can be delivered to all sorts of China, Turkey and India, but only if there is a Su-67 (type C-400 / С-500).
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 19 November 2019 14: 13
      +7
      First, let’s bring Su 57 to mind, we’ll adopt it and cure childhood diseases, and then we will share the skin and sell it in pieces ...
      1. Operator
        Operator 19 November 2019 14: 15
        +9
        Su-57 must be simultaneously sold and brought up - at the expense of others (as the Americans did with their F-35).
        1. Herman 4223
          Herman 4223 19 November 2019 14: 27
          -2
          Absolutely, let the alien pilots fight. Its more expensive.
        2. Ural-4320
          Ural-4320 19 November 2019 14: 27
          +3
          We don't know how. We know how to give a loan so that we can buy weapons for it. Everything according to Zadornov: "we need to invite their specialists for their loans, so that they work out our debts." It only works in the opposite direction for some reason.
  5. Voyager
    Voyager 19 November 2019 14: 32
    +2
    So far, these are all words.
  6. Herman 4223
    Herman 4223 19 November 2019 14: 49
    +1
    I think it is necessary to study the question of what kind of fighter they want. If this is a car in the same category as the Mig-35, then we can offer to create one car for two. Such an aggregate will not hurt us either.
  7. Svetlana
    Svetlana 19 November 2019 14: 50
    +2
    Quote: Honest Citizen
    If we put aside emotions, this proposal is nothing more than a complete separation of Turkey from Washington, and accordingly from NATO

    No. The separation will be when (if) they leave the organization. In the meantime, there is only boiling shit on Internet sites, but real actions, real politicians to exit NATO, do not exist.
  8. Gardamir
    Gardamir 19 November 2019 15: 23
    +3
    Well, what were they telling me about the Kurds? Clear kiddies from the Kremlin will be friends with those who bring them a bliss. Well, for the one above, they said they were right in the stream. Just Erdogan is a Turkish patriot, and our own pocket.
    1. Karen
      Karen 19 November 2019 15: 34
      -2
      Quote: Gardamir
      Well, what were they telling me about the Kurds? Clear kiddies from the Kremlin will be friends with those who bring them a bliss.

      The Kurds probably remember that the RIA general in the WWI patronized them very strongly (against the Armenians), they did not even disarm their gangs on the liberated Armenian lands, leaving them against us ...
      This is due to the fact that the RIA generals were strongly opposed to the position of Nicholas, who chose Armenians as his allies, and not the Kurds, as these horsemen wanted ...
  9. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 19 November 2019 15: 37
    -1
    It is necessary to file a joint glider for 1x product 30 ..... and each avionics has its own.
  10. illi
    illi 19 November 2019 15: 56
    +1
    Historically, the Turks have always been our enemies. And now they are not friends to us as much as Syria and the North Caucasus show. So I don’t understand all these exclamations, while weaning, we again defeated the United States.
    In fact, if we discard emotions. Then we help our enemy create a modern fighter.
    And if you discard emotions completely. That is the trade in exclusive technology. Moreover, our elites do not care who they sell them to, at least enemies, even friends.
  11. georggy
    georggy 19 November 2019 18: 15
    0
    This article is a cheap stuffing.
  12. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 19 November 2019 18: 23
    +1
    Shugaev noted that Russia may, if necessary, supply Turkey with a fifth-generation fighter Su-57, but only after the initial needs of the Russian Air Force are met.

    And when will the initial needs of the RF Aerospace Forces be met? With our pace ...