Scenarios of the future US war against Russia described in Poland

Poland continues to talk and write about a possible armed conflict between the United States and Russia. The next scenarios of future clashes were described in the publication Mysl Polska by Polish journalist Antony Konyushevsky.

According to the author of the article, the United States needs a large-scale war, so a US clash with Russia is inevitable. Washington is considering the clash with Moscow, and not with Beijing.

First of all, Washington is interested in a conflict with Moscow, since Beijing could not be restrained. To limit expansion, Americans will have to try to subjugate Russia

- writes Konyushevsky.

According to him, two scenarios of a future war are possible. The first will include a US attack on Russia using all available means, including nuclear weapons. But, as the author notes, this scenario is too risky, since Moscow may still have the opportunity to respond and deliver "an equally destructive retaliatory strike."

The second scenario of the war is of an economic nature. It implies "complete economic isolation" of Russia, which in the future should lead to "a change in the Russian political leadership."

At the same time, Konyushevsky notes that today Russia is successfully "repulsing all enemy attacks" at both the political and economic levels. Moscow maintains close contacts with other countries and retains its influence in the Middle East, where the States are suffering a "humiliating defeat."

The great steppe is bleeding now, but it’s only a thin brook, not a hecatomb, which was prepared in Washington

- the author of the article declares.

Comments

[Shurik70]

Actually, I agree with the conclusions of this Pole.
The United States will attack Russia almost certainly.
But the Pole did not go further in his conclusions. And the conclusion is that humanity will either perish or be driven into the Stone Age.
Balancing on a knife blade. So far, successful. But our mistake will be the death of civilization.

[APES]

Well, when finally

What the USA direct military clash with the Russian Federation-with a clear result? In Russia, they are preparing for the 2024 year. And the global conflict is a war between China and India.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: APES

Why the USA direct military clash with the Russian Federation ...

I would speak more broadly - is there a direct US clash with someone? they need a war of 1939-1945, when everyone kills each other, and the United States captures the colonies and sells weapons to everyone.
Now it’s become difficult with the seizures, everyone threatens to answer, and sometimes with nuclear weapons. the arms market is also a mess. NATO countries have begun to buy weapons from Russians, and even faithful Saudis are ready to craft insidiously in Russia. China is climbing everywhere with its high-tech, even in the United States. in general, everything is wrong and everything is wrong

[Sky strike fighter]

The Poles reproduce the position of the United States. By the way, they didn’t write in vain why the Poles tend to end up. This is the end of the above article. A war is being prepared with Iran.

Two things became apparent. Firstly, Beijing is still far from real participation in the game at the highest level, and secondly, the United States suffered a humiliating defeat in the Middle East. They continue to do something there to save face (now with the help of the Kurds), but this suits Putin, since the balance he has carefully built remains. There is one dangerous moment in the situation: in order to stay on top, the Americans need to arrange some kind of larger-scale adventure. It is now clearly visible that they are reflecting on Iran.

This direction of the blow will also be in Russia's hands: it will be able to strengthen its position by proving itself to be a responsible and serious country. In such circumstances, the United States will have only one ally: Ukraine. Here, however, two circumstances must be taken into account: all that she has is an archaic box with matches, and not the fact that she actually sees a deadly enemy in Moscow.

https://inosmi.ru/politic/20191118/246255089.html

[APES]

A war is being prepared with Iran.

Iran is full of domestic problems. It’s cheaper to arrange a maidan there. In case of war - Iran will completely paralyze shipping in the Persian Gulf, plus it will cover all oil production in the region, plus a lot of things - as a result, the situation will become uncontrollable, and nobody needs it

[Ka-52]

plus it will cover all oil production in the region, plus a lot of things - as a result, the situation will become unmanageable, and nobody needs it

absolutely not true. Firstly, the Americans went through this with Iraq and their problems of shipping in the Persian Gulf did not stop. Secondly, the Americans are not afraid of the high oil price, because the USA is at the 3 place in the world in oil production. They only receive more income and all. It was at high oil prices that their own shale program began to develop.

[APES]

absolutely not true. In-

IRAN watched very closely as the US crushed Iraq. I drew conclusions. If the US attacks Iran, it will not be an American-style war - it will be a Iranian-style war.
Regarding a possible US attack on Iran, Admiral William Fallon said best of all: "not on my shift" :)

[Ka-52]

I drew conclusions. If the US attacks Iran, it will not be an American-style war - it will be a Iranian-style war.

naive delirium. What is the Iranian war? Despite the fact that in this confrontation I am in my heart for Iran, it has no chance. Everything will come down to the Iraqi scenario - the defeat of the Armed Forces, a puppet government, partisan resistance, civil war. The country will fall into chaos for many decades, which is precisely the goal of the United States. Variants can only be in the form of "there is input of ground forces, no input of ground forces". That is, the Iraqi or Yugoslavian scenario

[CAT BAIYUN]

It’s cheaper to arrange a maidan there.

in Iran? Maidan? Is it the Shiites?
I doubt very much that anyone will seriously consider such an option.

[APES]

in Iran

December 2017 - January 2018

[CAT BAIYUN]

And how did it end?

[Sentinel-vs]

Duck, here’s literally yesterday’s news:
At least 40 people died as a result of mass riots in Iran
More details: https://www.vestifinance.ru/articles/128378

[CAT BAIYUN]

Well, another 140 will die ..... 1400 - to the Iranians no matter. As long as they have a spiritual leader, they are all buzzing.
But that's my personal opinion.

[Sentinel-vs]

The fact that dozens perish during the unrest - this already means that the Iranians do NOT care, once it comes to this. So I do not presume to idealize the unity of the people in Iran.

[CAT BAIYUN]

dozens die during the unrest - this already means that the Iranians are NOT indifferent

apparently I didn’t put it right, speaking about anyway ...
Let's put it this way: in order to restore order in the country and maintain socio-religious imperatives, Iranians can ruin the required number of marginalized elements.
And the order will be. And unity .... Well, as it were, and not very necessary. Even his absence is sometimes helpful. Who should be cut as a warning to those who are objectionable, like sheepish sheep.

[ruslanverchenko]

And this is just ... Iran, and they periodically seriously consider that they can afford to attack Russia ...

[Vodrak]

Yes stop it!
American warriors harnessed for the Poles?
They’re not, it’s the Poles who dream of pushing Russia and the USA against their foreheads, the Americans are not stupid people, they are fighting for money

[Vodrak]

It’s easy for them: at whose victory, into the army of people, (if it’s to us), into the army of the land, (if it’s for them)
Passed it already

[Operator]

"The United States needs a massive war, so a US clash with Russia is inevitable.", - war using consumables - Lyakhov

In general, the Poles and the Ukrainians have so much fear of falling under the nuclear distribution that they seriously call the US economic measures aimed at protecting the EU, China and Russia from competition in the world market (the latter in terms of energy supplies and weapons).

[APES]

war using supplies - lyakhov bully

If it starts, do you think they will not let you go into consumption?

[Operator]

Who will let-Poles with the Ukrainians?

[Loess]

According to the author of the article, the United States needs a large-scale war,

Uh ... Why?

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Quote: Less

According to the author of the article, the United States needs a large-scale war,

Uh ... Why?

On World War II, the United States was very good. They think to sit out again.

[Sayan]

In the event of a collision, Poland will disappear from the map anyway.

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: Sayan

In the event of a collision, Poland will disappear from the map anyway.

like most other countries, not only in Europe, but around the globe

[pru-pavel]

Do you seriously think that the plans of the General Staff of the Russian Federation state: "In response to an attack from nowhere, Russia will respond with indiscriminate fire in all directions, if the attack was clear from where, then we will do the same." ?

[Lopatov]

Quote: pru-pavel

Russia will respond with random fire in all directions

Even a decent fire in one direction will lead to enormous problems for the whole world.
No one has yet disproved the theory of nuclear winter.

[pru-pavel]

Refuted more than once. In general, among physicists there are now more opponents of nuclear winter than its supporters

[Lopatov]

Quote: pru-pavel

Refuted more than once.

So far, they have refuted

But the fact that the Eastern Roman Empire was destroyed by the eruption of the volcano Ilopango in Central America is a fact. As well as the consequences of other eruptions. For example, "a year without summer"

[Demon_is_ada]

Yeah, they are smart there, hwiziki, especially the Anglican ... scientists Winters are not necessary, it is enough during the year to lower the average temperature by 10 degrees and those who survived will die of hunger ...

[Honest Citizen]

Do you seriously think that the plans of the General Staff of the Russian Federation state: "In response to an attack from nowhere, Russia will respond with indiscriminate fire in all directions, if the attack was clear from where, then we will do the same." ?

Let's start with the fact that if he arrives in Russia from the United States, he will fly to them first. And right there, as they say, without departing from the cashier, for all countries where there are military bases of the USA, NATO and their allies. And Poland is one of the first here. So what about "random shooting in all directions" you turned it down.

[pru-pavel]

Well, it said about most countries around the globe. Are there really US military bases in most countries around the globe?

[Honest Citizen]

Google says that their bases are in 170 countries of the world

https://communitarian.ru/news/v-mire/ssha-imeyut-voennye-bazy-v-170-stranakh-mira_25012018

[pru-pavel]

It seems you are confusing the number of military bases and the number of countries. These are different things.

[Honest Citizen]

I brought a reference to the source there. Now I repeat it again:
https://communitarian.ru/news/v-mire/ssha-imeyut-voennye-bazy-v-170-stranakh-mira_25012018

Even officially, the Pentagon speaks of 701 military base around the world

[pru-pavel]

Well duck where 170 countries then? Can I have a list?

[Honest Citizen]

Global research Internet portal notes that the United States has military bases in 170 countries around the world.

According to this portal, Americans maintain about 800 military bases in 170 countries around the world, including 6 in Iraq.

I quoted only what I read. The link resulted in the first post.

[pru-pavel]

Okay, I get it. They just found it means the wrong source and immediately grabbed it in an attempt to justify their words.

[Honest Citizen]

in an attempt to justify my words

And here is more detailed. What words did I want to justify?
Those that fly to all military bases, and therefore countries?
Well, you see for yourself. Arrived, for example, in Romania. It automatically touches (no one canceled the radiation) and all the neighbors. And a country the size of Latvia - so there is one rocket for three or four countries is enough.
And this we still do not consider losses from natural disasters, from so many explosions.
Something like that.

[pru-pavel]

Well this is actually a mistake. You would probably be surprised if you knew that the explosion power of the Chelyabinsk meteorite amounted to 460kiloton in TNT equivalent, and at the same time not a single dead. Well, radiation is actually not so fatal, it is not even a paramount damaging factor, short-term and has a specific gravity in the region of 5% of the explosion power and it only affects when it is in direct visibility from the explosion. That in cities and special facilities is not a frequent occurrence.

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

It is at an altitude of 30 km. Several tens of kilotons at a height of 60 km fluttered over Kazakhstan in the 60s. People did not even notice ... For they were left without electricity and a telephone.
A nuclear strike above the surface is a completely different calico. 300 ctn in Poland - in a radius of 10 km - nothing alive, in a radius of 25 km - nothing whole, in a radius of up to 100 km - nothing electronic and electric. And this is 10% of the country.

[pru-pavel]

Well, you would at least read something. Radius of total destruction 20ktn 1km. For 20mtn 10km. There, the dependence of the cubic radius on energy (because it is scattered in volume) your 300ctn will give Radius more than a kilometer to the root cubic 300/20 = 15, that is, 2,5 km and that's it. Again, in the zone of continuous destruction there are many survivors in reinforced concrete buildings. After Hiroshima, the women in the epicenter survived to 80 years. Well, the electromagnetic pulse is strong only for high-altitude explosions

[pru-pavel]

It meant 2,50 times more than a kilometer. That is only 2,5 km.

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

The dependence is direct, of the first degree, for that which goes up does not participate in the destruction, and the energy of the ring-shaped shock wave weakens in proportion to the radius of the circle.
20 ktn is still a rather weak charge, and the large victims in Hiroshima and Nagasaki are from the instantly flared up wooden and cardboard city. There was nowhere to run to escape.
I read somewhere the calculation that the destruction zone from a surface nuclear explosion of 20 kt among the skyscrapers of New York will be only 200-500 meters. Several neighboring houses.

[cost]

Well radiation is actually not so fatal

[VALERIK_097]

Well, radiation is actually not so fatal-USE isn’t it? Have you heard anything about alpha and beta contamination? A statement like Alpha-piece of paper delays, into the firebox.

[bessmertniy]

The war between the United States and Russia is needed not by them, but by silkworm Konyushevsky, who receives 30 pieces of silver for him for his exuberant fantasies.

[Ural-4320]

Old "Yeralash" with Yuri Bogatyryov:
- Tell me, please, what will your next book be about?
- Well, I’m thinking of writing about how this one approaches this one, and that one is on the cumpole, and this one is on the teapot, and that one is AAAA !!!, and this one is for him BAM !!!

[bessmertniy]

That's when Konyushevsky in the cumpole will receive from whom it is necessary, then he will cease messing with his projects of the Russian-American apocalypse.

[Ural-4320]

And him for what ?!

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Quote: Ural-4320

And him for what ?!

For the campaign !!!!

[bessmertniy]

Yes, because the blizzard drives.

[Major Yurik]

What is strange is that the Pshepruli talk about a war, the results of which they will never know! Well, they may have time to mate, but briefly ...
Well, the Yankees will regret that the history of their state was so short ....

[bessmertniy]

However, the zhek will not be thrown.

[Livonetc]

That's perverts.
It is, of course, understandable, "the expectation of death is worse than death itself."
And everyone can’t stop.
"the mice cried, injected, but continued to eat the cactus"

[K-50]

Scenarios of the future US war against Russia described in Poland

Poland needs to remember one thing. If such a scenario (war) is implemented, then in the place of Poland there will be a desert and ruins. Be afraid of your "predictions".

[Aliken]

This Pole must be imprisoned for inciting the idea of ​​war.

[Fedorov]

Pmsak and scribblers in hand, slowed down by a lot, Poland will no longer be. In which case, it's not for nothing that "the guys are playing with" Yars and "Maces ... Although enough other means.

[tovarich-andrey.62goncharov]

Get excited! In the second minute of this global cataclysm you will no longer be interested in these issues. Never...

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

Well no. 15 minutes of happiness from a terrible revenge will still warm the soul.

[askort154]

But, as the author notes, this scenario is too risky, since Moscow may still have the opportunity to respond and strike back with an equally devastating blow


And Poland will be among the first targets because of the US military base.
What does Konyushevsky not know about ?!

[Mestny]

Guesses.
Therefore, he writes - the United States will try to destroy Russia from the inside.
If successful, the revolutionary masses will not be up to America. They will tear at each other to which hands reach.
It will be enough to introduce the occupying forces - of course to maintain order. Well, to help loyal groups.
And such troops will be mainly from the former socialist "brothers".

[Ham]

yeah ... the hyenas of Europe have already come up with a lot of scenarios ... and for all these scenarios, someone else should fight with Russia and drag chestnuts out of the fire for Poles;)
however, judging by the declarations of the representatives of the Washington regional committee, THEIR plans are slightly different - according to THEIR plans, cannon fodder in the future war should be exactly Poles!
Poles and other Eastern European adherents, as the countries of Old Europe do not want to fight with the Russians - they raked too often - they learned from bitter experience - but Poland and other Romanians with Ukraine did not have their Napoleons and Hitlers and there were no painful disappointments from such close (until they got in touch with Russia) world domination
and the kind uncles from across the ocean assigned themselves the role of suppliers - as was the case in 1 and 2 mv
so go ahead and with songs pan Konyushevsky

[awg75]

these mentally retarded pschek don’t understand that after the war there will be no one left? in the sense of absolutely. and primarily Poland.

[Mestny]

They all understand very well, like the USA.
Therefore, they write that the main task is to prevent Russia from using its nuclear weapons.

[Evil echo]

Quote: Vodrak

it’s the Poles who want to push Russia and the USA with their foreheads,

But they don’t understand that they themselves will be completely raked, and it’s not a fact that Poland will subsequently remain on the map.

[gridasov]

To describe one of the scenarios of the future, one must have methods and technology for analyzing big data. What as I understand it, the so-called partners do not. Therefore, the level of intelligence is determined by how easily some people plan and model this future.

[g1washntwn]

Such an open war can happen only because of a critical accident. The Americans disagree deliberately poking their heads into the nuclear stove even if they draw colorful plans for any global blows. These are comics, Hollywood and cowards over leotards. In the real world, those who can be robbed with impunity less and less, and the likelihood of running into an otvetochka - all higher. Even the whole NATO gang.

[dzvero]

Such an open war can happen only because of a critical accident.

Not only. Also, if one of the parties receives (or decides that it has received) a critical advantage, negating the possibility of a retaliatory strike.

[ochakow703]

The whole joke is that according to any scenario - from Pshekia the glazed desert will remain. So they should beware of bright forecasts for themselves.

[rocket757]

Again haberdashery there is no peace .... the crocodile is not caught, coconut does not grow!
It is unlikely that the "cardinal" cares, he has his own dances around the "throne"!

[Tolik_74]

As Lukashenka would say - another falsehood from Poland

[4ekist]

If it begins, then Poland will be at the center of the clashes, with all the ensuing consequences.

[ultra]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

Poles reproduce the position of the United States.

I don’t think there are many idiots in power in the United States, but not suicides. But economically, the United States cannot do anything. They have only one option, bribery of our so-called “elites.” And this, in my opinion, is the most real threat to Russia.

[DPN]

And what will remain of Poland, or FOUND by it, we will not take prisoner.

[Incvizitor]

It would be better if they fantasized that in the event of such a war with Poland there would be.

[faterdom]

Poland, what to think about it? For her uncles, everyone in Washington will decide, she simply pulls part of the apocalypse onto herself, however, without making the fate of the United States easier ... But at the same time, solidarity in action ...

[anjey]

To limit expansion, Americans will have to try to subjugate Russia

All the gods of the Centuries and Peace saw how many of them there were, these subordinates but the psheks will still not be able to stay long and stay on the sidelines, they will burn out to fiery hyenas, everything is under the root, and they will fantasize with sick brains, and most likely, due to the absence of these or their absence, their fantasies exist.

[seacap]

When are all these raguli and others, incl. and our so-called. it will reach the elites that our overseas "partners" will never enter into a direct clash with the Russian Federation, they do not even dream about it in their nightmares, and if they do, it will be with the wrong hands, "standing around the corner, encouraging and pulling stones" like they they always do in order to then walk over the bodies of exhausted opponents, simultaneously kicking the loser, and pocket the subject of the dispute. The Russian Federation is the only country in the world capable of physically destroying the States, they know very well about this, only the mongrels do not understand or do not want to understand what these 2 countries know very well, that in this case there will be no winners, more precisely there will be nothing like these "grunts", whom no one has taken seriously for a long time, but they serve only as background and extras, there is no point in wasting time on them and listening to their nonsense, all the same, their speeches are not written and edited by them.

[Shura Wii]

In the event of a war between Russia and the United States, the Psheks will have only one scenario, during the implementation of which they will disappear from the face of the Earth, however, like the other six of their master, they will follow him. The EU will turn into a large empty parking lot, slightly sprinkled with ashes. And what will happen to Russia ... yes, we are ... ordered, not e ... paid. This is our strength, this is what the Western pillars of pseudo-democracy are afraid of.

[Sitearvi]

In any scenario, Poland will be the first to be wiped off the face of the earth. Russia is too big and something will remain from Russia. So in vain the Poles sit rubbing their hands, we will first see their end.

[Klingon]

let Konyukhovsky think better of what, but the fact that in the event of a FSA attack on the Russian Federation-Pshekia will be one of the first countries from which only bad memories will remain

[Servisinzhener]

It is time for the Poles to leave their fantasies about the capture of Russia. They had a chance in the 17 century when Poland was, to put it mildly, more powerful than now. But with those possibilities, they could not realize it. And now they will not be able to.
And if it really itches, then let them begin to restore their Rzeczpospolita with the return of the city of Vilno and its environs. And those territories that are occupied by "Sumerian seamen". And this is more than 2/3 of modern Ukraine. If successful, they will receive a state from sea to sea as they dreamed. And the chance that the case will work out much more, given the state of Ukraine.
And by the way! Well, I completely forgot! The dream of Maidan jumpers to join the EU and NATO will come true.

[VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK]

Americans are traders. They will never get involved in a war with Russia., Knowing that it will arrive. The amers have all the infrastructure very closely located. So, Russia needs a lot less missiles. The question is whether the United States will fight if one Vanguard falls on the Capitol, another on the Pentagon. It is only the Russians who are fighting until the last soldier. And do not confuse American politicians and ordinary citizens. Ordinary people do not need war. The Americans can only try to set another opponent against Russia. And then trade in weapons Shelter yell at the UN on the ban on nuclear weapons. There will be no one to sell.

[7,62x54]

The Psheks did not think that the rink of the great war would once again go through their land. And after it, Poland may not be that name, and its neighboring countries will grow territories. And what role do the Poles play this time? Concentration camps tidied up?

[evgen1221]

When mixing with amers, in any situation, the Poles karochun without options.

[Rusj]

It is necessary to add to the defense strategy of Russia that in the case of an attack by any country on Russia, the first retaliatory strike is delivered to Poland ... Yes, even the Martians will attack, the first missile - to Poland. Immediately, the Poles will be the first among the hippies.

[georggy]

They are stubbornly following the scenario of the mid 30s of the last century.
Mo7ila will fix them

[Vasyan1971]

Polyatsky delirious delirium!

[Alexprint1.Alexandr]

In both scenarios, the US attacks Russia, but the aggressor, of course, Russia ...