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Stop attacks on the military police of the Russian Federation in Syria: a method from psychologists

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Stop attacks on the military police of the Russian Federation in Syria: a method from psychologists

After numerous shots with attacks by representatives of the aggressive part of the Kurdish population of northern Syria on Russian military patrols, a discussion began about how Russian troops should act in order not only to prevent damage to military equipment, but also to preserve their lives and health, in general, to stop attacks.


The conversation about preserving life and health came after the Kurds published footage in which they bombarded Russian armored vehicles with Molotov cocktails. Several Molotov cocktails got into vehicles, causing a short-term fire on their hull. At one point in such an attack, when cars were also pelted with stones, a Russian soldier stood next to the Typhoon armored car. Fortunately, people from the crowd did not throw stones and bottles at him. But the situation is complicated in that at any moment more aggressive provocateurs may appear who decide to act directly against the military personnel. Yes, and the ignition of a Russian patrol car due to a hit of a Molotov cocktail is hardly a prank.

At the moment, the military is trying to avoid answers to these provocations. Cars simply continue to move through the village, even in the event of obvious damage, including damage from an open flame. Of course, there can be no talk of any forceful influence by the Russian military on the local population, since it is precisely the organizers of the provocations who count on the armed response.

But then what to do?


Psychology experts point out that direct negotiations with local elders would be an effective way. For obvious reasons, without their knowledge, these attacks on Russian patrols fail. At these meetings, it’s quite delicate and intelligible that one can explain to the elders and heads of communities why the Russian military police are located in northern Syria.

In this explanation, there could be arguments that the place of the Russian military police in the areas of compact Kurdish residence in northern Syria "would very much like to take the Turkish troops and formations controlled by them." And that the Turkish contingent can easily record every “activist” with stones (not to mention people with Molotov cocktails) as representatives of the armed wing of the PKK (Workers' Party of Kurdistan), an organization recognized by the Turks as terrorist with all the ensuing consequences.

It is advisable to invite those who were directly involved in attacks on the Russian military patrol to such round tables, especially since the faces of the majority are perfectly visible on their published videos.

Such conversations with the local population on its territory could well have a strong psychological effect - without the use of harsh methods, in order not only to reduce the aggressiveness of individual members of the crowd, but also to minimize the likelihood of attacks themselves.
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  1. Honest Citizen
    Honest Citizen 18 November 2019 18: 10 New
    +15
    And to warn that upon repetition only Turks will remain here ...
    1. rich
      rich 18 November 2019 18: 34 New
      +41
      direct peace talks with local elders would be an effective way

      Just the elders then receive the loot for these provocations. First and foremost they are being chased. This stage has already passed. It began with persuasion - ended with hostages. This is the road to nowhere
      The most effective way would be to not go on about Turkey and not get involved with these convoys at all. Our interests are not there and Kurds should not risk their people. Let the Turks and the Syrians deal with the Kurds
      1. iConst
        iConst 18 November 2019 18: 40 New
        +4
        Quote: Rich
        Just the elders then receive the loot for these provocations.

        And whose ears stick out in this situation is easy to guess.
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 18 November 2019 19: 16 New
          +13
          Quote: iConst
          whose ears stick out

          Konstantin hi
          These ears stick out everywhere, even where they don’t ask ...
          1. poquello
            poquello 18 November 2019 22: 33 New
            +4
            Quote: bouncyhunter
            Quote: iConst
            whose ears stick out

            Konstantin hi
            These ears stick out everywhere, even where they don’t ask ...

            )))))) they just stick out usually where they are not asked
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 18 November 2019 22: 37 New
              +9
              It’s time to crack these ears ... repeat
              1. poquello
                poquello 18 November 2019 22: 41 New
                +2
                Quote: bouncyhunter
                It’s time to crack these ears ... repeat

                ours are cautious (as there is enough patience: ()), but as a result it’s in the black
      2. Alekseev
        Alekseev 18 November 2019 20: 35 New
        +2
        Quote: Rich
        Our interests are not there and Kurds should not risk their people. Let the Turks and the Syrians deal with the Kurds

        That's right!
        Our interest is in maintaining influence in the Middle East through, among other things, maintaining in power in the SAR an adequate secular government, and not the power of bloodthirsty and fanatical baboons.
        Therefore, we must take measures, interact, and “resolve” the situation, albeit with the Turks, and with the Persians, and with the Kurds as well.
        Why, in the Kurdish enclaves, are the Tigers and Typhoons of the military police? Not to throw stones and bottles of gas at them?
        It seems that these patrols are a demonstration of the Russian Federation, that our forces are here, and if the attacks of at least the "peaceful" Kurds do not stop, then measures will be taken.
        What kind? For example, an ultimatum to local Kurdish leaders: if the attacks do not stop, Russia stops patrolling and gives the Turks carte blanche to restore order in dangerous areas, and in especially evil cases, military police patrols can replace Su-34 and Ka-32 pairs.
        The Syrian army (or someone else, sort it out) can destroy oil production at one of the fields used by the Kurds with a precision missile strike. Losses are millions of dollars. Do not allow bottles to drop ...
      3. Misha Honest
        Misha Honest 19 November 2019 02: 23 New
        -4
        Quote: Rich
        direct peace talks with local elders would be an effective way

        Just the elders then receive the loot for these provocations. First and foremost they are being chased. This stage has already passed. It began with persuasion - ended with hostages. This is the road to nowhere
        The most effective way would be to not go on about Turkey and not get involved with these convoys at all. Our interests are not there and Kurds should not risk their people. Let the Turks and the Syrians deal with the Kurds

        You can make it easier - to include Latakia in the Russian Federation, put Assad as governor there, all Syrians who want to live in the Russian Federation and, according to the laws of the Russian Federation, take them to Latakia.
        And give the rest of Syria to the Turks - let them knead with the Kurds there themselves. And then the Turks will get to the Golan Heights ... And the Turks will already begin to "amuse" Israel ... laughing
      4. Looking for
        Looking for 19 November 2019 16: 20 New
        0
        Logically. The opposing forces of the same faith will always find the safest way to annihilate each other. The true proverb is, "with their charter, they don’t climb into someone else’s monastery."
    2. Greg Miller
      Greg Miller 18 November 2019 19: 01 New
      +15
      Better yet, follow the old expression from the mafia: "A bullet changes a lot in the head, even if it hit your ass!"
      (Al Capone)
      1. APES
        APES 18 November 2019 19: 37 New
        +1
        Quote: Greg Miller
        Better yet, follow the old expression from the mafia: "A bullet changes a lot in the head, even if it hit your ass!"
        (Al Capone)

        The first bullet and good morning Vietnam
    3. private person
      private person 18 November 2019 19: 02 New
      +4
      And to warn that upon repetition only Turks will remain here ...

      Or maybe without warning, just untie the Turks? These Kurds outlaw let them get what they deserve.
      1. The comment was deleted.
        1. jonht
          jonht 19 November 2019 02: 37 New
          +6
          And you race horse for the company to execute, for bloodthirstiness. And you have mediocrity in 404, one more beautiful. Download further, somewhere on another site.
    4. Dmitry Donskoy
      Dmitry Donskoy 18 November 2019 19: 35 New
      +1
      East is a delicate matter yes
      1. krops777
        krops777 19 November 2019 07: 18 New
        0
        East is a delicate matter


        What is there subtle? Intrigue, conspiracy weave, but with whom to cut down more profits, they only understand the strength and are friends.
    5. parkello
      parkello 18 November 2019 21: 17 New
      +2
      not only to warn, but also to leave them face to face with the Turks ... no pity for either one or the other. and the more losses, the better (on both sides) yes
    6. kit88
      kit88 18 November 2019 22: 01 New
      +16
      And one of the psychologists will say - what is the purpose of this "patrol"? Why do they even enter the village?
      Barmaley looking? So there every second barmaley and every first Kalash is hidden.
      Well, drove in, stopped. What's next? They asked the elder if everything was in order, got a stone in their forehead, and then drove around.
      Wonderful "patrol". good
    7. smart ass
      smart ass 19 November 2019 05: 33 New
      0
      Shooting on the extremities, 1 will shoot the rest go home
    8. Obi-Wan Kenobi
      Obi-Wan Kenobi 19 November 2019 06: 13 New
      0
      And to warn that upon repetition only Turks will remain here ...

      Do not understand, Asians ...
      Retaliatory fire to defeat surprisingly quickly puts the brains in place and restores the status quo.
      Or completely stop patrolling.
      There is no third...
  2. Lexus
    Lexus 18 November 2019 18: 11 New
    +11
    The authors of such patrols are put in these machines, and all problems will be quickly resolved.
    1. Ural-4320
      Ural-4320 18 November 2019 18: 51 New
      0
      That is, you think that Assad will calmly abandon the sacking of his country, in particular oil? The extrusion of aliens by our units will continue until they liberate the whole country. Don’t go to the grandmother. And patrols are a fairly peaceful way to make it clear whose order comes to the territory. There are always dissatisfied people on the ground. Moreover, they are unlikely to properly explain their discontent.
      1. 210ox
        210ox 18 November 2019 19: 27 New
        +5
        According to reports, the Kurds went on negotiations with Assad. But there, on the ground, it is really necessary to negotiate with the elders.
        1. Ural-4320
          Ural-4320 18 November 2019 19: 37 New
          +1
          Hurry already. For nearly 10 years there is no normal life.
  3. Dietmar
    Dietmar 18 November 2019 18: 12 New
    +6
    Conversations of this kind with aksakals were very effective at the time in the Caucasus.
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 18 November 2019 18: 40 New
      +3
      Quote: Dietmar
      Conversations of this kind with aksakals were very effective at the time in the Caucasus.

      Only now the most important Kurdish elder from the PKK has been in a Turkish prison for 20 years.
    2. mikh-korsakov
      mikh-korsakov 18 November 2019 19: 18 New
      +4
      I quote the author: "conducting direct negotiations with local elders." God forbid me from opinions in a question in which I am not aware. I'm just wondering how to do this technically, how to avoid casualties among our negotiators. After all, negotiators need to meet with the elders. Of course, the idea suggests itself that the elders will be offered bakshish in one form or another, and what if the Americans offer a larger bakshish, and what does it mean? That is, long diplomacy is supposed, how will the safety of our people be technically ensured?
      1. rich
        rich 18 November 2019 20: 56 New
        +3
        Greetings Michael hi
        mikh-korsakov: I'm just wondering how to do it technically

        For this, amanates are exposed. These are hostages to ensure the exact fulfillment of the agreement, the conditions concluded between opponents - in case of violation of the agreement, the hostage turned into a prisoner. Not taking amanats in the east is considered a sign of weakness or treachery. Amanats, as a rule, are close relatives of elders and leaders
        1. mikh-korsakov
          mikh-korsakov 18 November 2019 22: 12 New
          0
          Dmitry, thank you. As I understand it, exposing amanats is a guarantee of compliance with the agreement. By the way, the agreement is mutual. that is, from our side will they also expose amanats? My question, however, apparently, I did not clearly articulate. Based on the presence of many forces of influence (America, Turkey, the PKK, Russia-Assad), I think the process will inevitably be complex and lengthy. How, until the conclusion of the contract, will the safety of our policemen be ensured?
          1. rich
            rich 18 November 2019 22: 44 New
            +4
            But no way! From the word absolutely!
            9 villages were reconciled, and from the tenth you will get a bullet in the back.
            We need to clean our patrols. First stones and bottles, then mines and ambushes. It was already not so long ago
            Let's wait until these patrols will go "in Afghan" soon - one box in the head, two at the end of the patrol, trawl, plus an air guider, guard outposts, mobile groups, roadblocks ... but this is not a VP patrol at all .
            We need it?
  4. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 18 November 2019 18: 13 New
    +10
    Yes, that was all! Thirty-odd years ago. In Afghanistan They also spat at the beginning and rushed to dung .... The method of "treatment" is not forgotten?
    1. Alex_You
      Alex_You 18 November 2019 20: 14 New
      +3
      City in the village?
      1. poquello
        poquello 18 November 2019 22: 44 New
        +1
        Quote: Alex_You
        City in the village?

        ett by accident, heat, nerves
  5. Thrifty
    Thrifty 18 November 2019 18: 14 New
    +6
    The time of negotiations with the Kurds has passed, they must be firmly confronted with a choice, or the provocations are coming to naught, or we will selectively, in order to protect ourselves, to defeat. It was not enough for our RPG patrol to be fired next time.
  6. GKS 2111
    GKS 2111 18 November 2019 18: 15 New
    +17
    They only understand strength, and kindness is perceived as weakness ..
    1. Maki Avellevich
      Maki Avellevich 18 November 2019 21: 43 New
      +4
      Quote: GKS 2111
      They only understand strength, and kindness is perceived as weakness ..

      welcome to bv.
  7. Thrifty
    Thrifty 18 November 2019 18: 17 New
    +2
    In fact, you need to take a couple of these heroes, and, in a private setting, ask toughly who and how much they are collecting for these anti-Russian covens. You need to find puppeteers, and dispose of them.
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 18 November 2019 19: 06 New
      +14
      Quote: Thrifty
      In fact, you need to take a couple of these heroes, and, in a private setting, ask toughly who and how much they are collecting for these anti-Russian covens. You need to find puppeteers, and dispose of them.

      Yes, but this is the operational work of other services. Whatever happens, as with Yura Budanov (his kingdom be heaven) ...
      And, what this psychologist writes, at VO, described in more detail on November 14th in the subject "Shots from an armored car of the military police of the Russian Federation: a" stone "attack on a patrol in Syria"
  8. kpd
    kpd 18 November 2019 18: 27 New
    +5
    Introduce a scavenger machine into the column and “heat” the hot heads with watering contents.
    1. Evil543
      Evil543 18 November 2019 18: 35 New
      +1
      A couple of water cannons armored, and under the pretext of extinguishing a car, go for a jet on children
    2. evgen1221
      evgen1221 18 November 2019 21: 25 New
      +1
      Witty idea! It can take a ride, it is only necessary to pour water for the first time, and on the second such provocation it’s not a pity for guan.
  9. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 18 November 2019 18: 27 New
    +20
    First stones, now incendiary. This is what they warn. Conversations with the elders will not help, and the next time they can shoot at an adult. I don’t see much point in such patrols --- an excessive risk, but a beautiful picture for Euronews. Like, peaceful Kurds are rising to fight with the Russian-Turkish invaders. So they will present it in their news
  10. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 18 November 2019 18: 28 New
    +21
    One should not consult with psychologists, but with the IDF command. We have about 30 years of experience in all kinds of stone attacks, Molotov bottles, barricades made of stones and pieces of concrete, etc. Send a delegation - military colleagues are always happy to help! drinks
    And there are various technical means and methods.
    1. Amin_vivec
      Amin_vivec 18 November 2019 18: 39 New
      +8
      I wonder whose experience is more successful, in our country in Chechnya, or in your country in Palestine and the Gaza Strip))))
      1. nikolai.kolya
        nikolai.kolya 18 November 2019 19: 13 New
        +11
        The experience with Chechnya can hardly be called successful .... see subsidies, etc.
        1. ultra
          ultra 18 November 2019 20: 20 New
          -2
          Quote: nikolai.kolya
          The experience with Chechnya can hardly be called successful .... see subsidies, etc.

          Do you find a list of subsidized regions or yourself? laughing
          1. nikolai.kolya
            nikolai.kolya 18 November 2019 22: 21 New
            +2
            Find. Let's discuss drinks
            1. Dikson
              Dikson 19 November 2019 05: 49 New
              0
              Yeah yeah .. but you can also compare the size of the subsidies ..)))
            2. ultra
              ultra 19 November 2019 08: 23 New
              +1


              Why discuss it here?
              1. nikolai.kolya
                nikolai.kolya 19 November 2019 09: 14 New
                0
                so am I about the same ...
  11. rocket757
    rocket757 18 November 2019 18: 30 New
    +4
    The Kurds felt the taste of victories and “blood”, now they are reaping the fruits of betrayal ... this is for a long time.
    There are no better methods to set their brains. It will be as always.
    1. Demon_is_ada
      Demon_is_ada 18 November 2019 19: 24 New
      +2
      Well, from the real ones, what I can assume is to hint, and then showing the shots, to recognize the PKK and in Russia as terrorist, respectively, and the methods to paint how to wet them will be ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 18 November 2019 19: 30 New
        +2
        Quote: Demon_is_ada
        recognize the PKK and we have terrorist in Russia,

        It’s hard to say for sure. This is the east, there are no saints there at all!
        To leave everything as it is, in the global sense, too nervous \ shortening \ suggestion to do everything. If they do not understand, repeat until they understand.
  12. Shelest2000
    Shelest2000 18 November 2019 18: 31 New
    +7
    what to do with Russian servicemen in order not only to prevent damage to military equipment, but also to preserve their lives and health in order to stop attacks in general.

    There is only one answer here - the immediate opening of fire to defeat aggressive barmales. To warn the others - the next will fly planes with helicopters.
    I’ll just remind you that in the 90s, the same soft-core policy against local foul-smelling Aborigines in Chechnya resulted in numerous seizures of our equipment and the killing of military personnel. It seems that jumping on the same rake, our political "ilita" has a favorite pastime. However, they are not shot at ...
    1. Amin_vivec
      Amin_vivec 18 November 2019 18: 43 New
      +6
      Have rubber bullets been canceled? balls with indelible paint - the most active ones to mark ... And then to selectively come to the labeled ones, to seize the offender, to recover the damage caused to the equipment, and to prosecute under the laws of Syria.
      1. Alex_You
        Alex_You 18 November 2019 20: 17 New
        0
        Have you seen the video? There, they throw everyone and sundry. The easiest to fit into one comb, from small to large.
        1. Grits
          Grits 19 November 2019 01: 45 New
          +2
          This means that machine guns must be loaded with balls of indelible paint.
      2. alexmach
        alexmach 18 November 2019 20: 30 New
        +4
        You describe now the methods that can be applied in a place where there is an acting state power ... And the North of Syria is not the right place.
        1. Amin_vivec
          Amin_vivec 18 November 2019 20: 44 New
          +1
          But how else will Syria regain these territories than through the institutions of the implementation of laws and the spread of law and order? It is clear there the territory of anarchy - it is necessary to solve this issue, to begin at least with this. Not everyone - but the most stubborn ones to fine or imprison, the rest will run away as soon as the demonstration landings pass. But you can’t plant for a long time - they will be heroes in the eyes of the locals. Better often, and wider))) Fines can be imposed on the community, released for payment)))
          1. alexmach
            alexmach 18 November 2019 21: 05 New
            +3
            But how else will Syria regain these territories than through the institutions of the implementation of laws and the spread of law and order?

            Well, as soon as it returns, and as soon as these institutions are created, so they can be used. You cannot take advantage of what is not ...
          2. Dikson
            Dikson 19 November 2019 05: 51 New
            +1
            Can they then force-feed fat instead of planting it?
            1. Alex_You
              Alex_You 19 November 2019 12: 55 New
              -1
              Quote: Dikson
              Can they then force-feed fat instead of planting it?

              Accused of genocide.
  13. svp67
    svp67 18 November 2019 18: 34 New
    +6
    Stop attacks on the military police of the Russian Federation in Syria: a method from psychologists
    As I understand it, psychologists suggest "expressing concern." But this is the “East”, whether we like it or not, but in order to talk with the elders and bend your line, it is necessary, vitally necessary, to show your strength somewhere. Let not lethal, but the same water cannons
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 18 November 2019 19: 20 New
      +7
      Hi, hello! hi drinks
      Quote: svp67
      bend your line

      Otherwise bent you. yes
      1. svp67
        svp67 18 November 2019 19: 35 New
        +2
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        Hi, hello!

        Welcome. hi hi hi
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        Otherwise bent you.

        But it doesn’t work out otherwise
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 18 November 2019 19: 40 New
          +5
          Quote: svp67
          But it doesn’t work out otherwise

          We stand and stand there. soldier
    2. Maki Avellevich
      Maki Avellevich 18 November 2019 21: 47 New
      +2
      Quote: svp67
      But this is the “East”, whether we like it or not, but in order to talk with the elders and bend your line, it is necessary, vitally necessary, to show your strength somewhere. Let not lethal, but the same water cannons

      without a show of strength, nothing will come of it.
      better to forget about the water jet, it will only cause ridicule and get an RPG in the side.
  14. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 18 November 2019 18: 36 New
    +2
    Quote: voyaka uh
    One should not consult with psychologists, but with the IDF command. We have about 30 years of experience in all kinds of stone attacks, Molotov bottles, barricades made of stones and pieces of concrete, etc. Send a delegation - military colleagues are always happy to help! drinks
    And there are various technical means and methods.

    I have long been trying to write about it. But Yasser Arafat needed a long time ...... And your knowledge of how to talk to them would get the result faster.
  15. Slavutich
    Slavutich 18 November 2019 18: 38 New
    +3
    The strength and wisdom of our military. They are doing the right thing.
  16. Shahno
    Shahno 18 November 2019 18: 44 New
    +2
    Quote: Amin_Vivec
    I wonder whose experience is more successful, in our country in Chechnya, or in your country in Palestine and the Gaza Strip))))

    And this is unknown. We have our own specifics, you have your own methods. Kurds are not Chechens, there is a difference.
    If yours want to chat. In principle, it’s real, I don’t think we will be against it. Phone number you know.
  17. Adimius38
    Adimius38 18 November 2019 18: 56 New
    -2
    let psychologists roll in the forest, throw a Molotov bottle, then leave and leave the Turks to restore order. Or you have to consider that you have to use weapons, because such provocations will reach the point that they will pose a real threat to the lives of our fighters. What is surprising is that why there are no special means to disperse such provocateurs. there are water cannons, rubber bullets, sound guns and a bunch of non-lethal weapons
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  19. Yeraz
    Yeraz 18 November 2019 18: 57 New
    0

    Here's a video...
    1. Scoun
      Scoun 18 November 2019 20: 06 New
      +2
      Quote: Yeraz

      Here's a video...

      I looked at the video and the first desire that arose to jump out and scrabble over the grinning faces of the face. dancing to the tune of the player who has already thrown them.
      1. Yeraz
        Yeraz 18 November 2019 21: 26 New
        +1
        Quote: Scoun
        I looked at the video and the first desire that arose to jump out and scrabble over the grinning faces of the face. dancing to the tune of the player who has already thrown them.

        Well, now I hope some will realize that in the history of the confrontation between Turkey and these, these are not as white and fluffy as their media shows. Yet those characters.
    2. poquello
      poquello 18 November 2019 22: 54 New
      0
      Quote: Yeraz
      Here's a video...

      hmm, an organized group throws stones and lvz for the dolly, among or nearby there must be a pretzel with a moshny, Syrian intelligence works badly
  20. Aliken
    Aliken 18 November 2019 19: 13 New
    0
    Can be made easier. Apply shahada to the armored vehicle, or, takbir, and not a single Kurd throw a stone, his hand will rise.
    1. Oquzyurd
      Oquzyurd 18 November 2019 20: 25 New
      +3
      Do not believe many Kurds have atheism (many pagans still) even mock religious rites, especially PKK members. The PKK flag was with a hammer and sickle, such as communist ideology) Only in 2005 did they change the flag because of pro American considerations. So, religious inscriptions to some Kurds do not work ...
      1. rich
        rich 18 November 2019 23: 40 New
        +1
        Aliken (Alik Fesenko): Can be made easier. Apply shahada to the armored vehicle, or, takbir, and not a single Kurd throw a stone, his hand will rise.

        What are you talking about? 800 years ago, the legendary Khorezm Shah Jalal ad-Din died - the shield and sword of the Prophet, as the Muslims called him, did not die in battle with his enemy Genghis Khan, but was sleepy stabbed and robbed by a wandering Kurd who simply flattered his belt and clothes. Since then, the Kurdish mentality has not changed
        1. Aliken
          Aliken 19 November 2019 09: 30 New
          +1
          Now I understand the intolerance of the Turks towards the Kurds.
      2. Aliken
        Aliken 19 November 2019 09: 32 New
        +1
        Indeed, you are right.
  21. gridasov
    gridasov 18 November 2019 19: 17 New
    +1
    The author contradicts himself. It is clear that provocateurs act. But it is just impossible to agree with them. Therefore, only non-lethal methods can and should be applied. Especially such an action to understand the essence of which they can not. Dogs run away from high-frequency discharge
    1. rich
      rich 19 November 2019 00: 00 New
      0
      gridasov: Therefore, only non-lethal methods can and should be applied. Especially such an action to understand the essence of which they can not. Dogs run away from high-frequency discharge

      dogs, having received a high-frequency discharge, do not mine in retaliation for roads and do not shoot from bushes at cars
      1. gridasov
        gridasov 19 November 2019 09: 53 New
        +1
        Actually, I don’t even take out the shocker from the bag. Dogs shy away from a distant discharge. I repeat once again that it is important that people do not understand what essentially affects them. The physical effect is needed to spread fear, which they inflate with their misunderstanding.
  22. gorenina91
    gorenina91 18 November 2019 19: 20 New
    +12
    - Strange, but what is the point of patrolling. ???
    -To prevent the actions of hooligans, the tricks of law-breakers, criminal acts of bandits ... and so on ... -that is his purpose ...
    -And then what ??? - An incendiary tank is thrown into the patrol armored car in order to destroy this patrol ... -And what ??? -And we all, together with our crew of this patrol car, are glad that no one died and that the car did not burn out ... -Well, our joy is clear ...
    -And then what ???
    -This is what happens ... that the appointment of a patrol is an attempt and ability to bear blows of stones, incendiary grenades .. and what's next in line (grenades, mines ... and so on) ... -this is all of it "actions" ... -Patrol itself can not protect itself from attack and punish the attackers .., and only someone to guard and even more so ...
    -Those. the patrol plays the role of a “whipping boy” ...- while for whipping .., and what will happen next ...
    1. Uncle Sam
      Uncle Sam 18 November 2019 20: 10 New
      +2
      It is unlikely that someone will clearly answer. Why all this is needed.
      Someone will repeat the mantra - so that an alternative gas pipeline from Bahrain does not go to Europe
      and other similar garbage - find the eternal Mu in YouTube - everything is described there.
      And so, with a distant look, someone has long moved off the coils
    2. Scoun
      Scoun 18 November 2019 20: 13 New
      +3
      Quote: gorenina91
      Those. the patrol plays the role of a “whipping boy” ...- while for whipping .., and what will happen next ...

      A patrol is not a whipping boy; they still collect information and based on these data other steps will be taken.
      It will be necessary, then the Turks will either patrol the Syrians themselves, but in a completely different way, the Syrians must remember how it all started from the rallies.
  23. G. Georgiev
    G. Georgiev 18 November 2019 19: 51 New
    -1
    Why Russia does not use its notorious psychotronic generators, which operate and remotely modulate the human psyche. Or this development was also stopped due to bureaucracy
    1. poquello
      poquello 18 November 2019 22: 58 New
      +2
      Quote: G. Georgiev
      Why Russia does not use its notorious psychotronic generators, which operate and remotely modulate the human psyche. Or this development was also stopped due to bureaucracy

      you have to scatter zombie tablets with video content of the 1st channel!
      1. rich
        rich 19 November 2019 16: 41 New
        +1
        This is too much! Such sadistic practices are prohibited by the Geneva Convention on Human Rights.laughing
  24. Newven
    Newven 18 November 2019 19: 54 New
    +5
    In this situation, the very role of the presence of the Russian contingent in the patrol is not clear! What are the Russian soldiers doing there, who are they protecting or protecting from whom? Kurds from Turks, Turks from Kurds, or “Syrians” in the face of Kurds? So the Kurds themselves, with the light hands of their allies, do not rank among the citizens of Syria. There are no Barmolevs from whom Russia needs to be protected by destruction, in that area. So for the sake of whom, the life and health of the Russian military should be endangered in Kurdish enclaves?
    It’s more profitable for Russia to “utilize” barmoleis near Russian military bases, rather than to guard someone near the hell on small cakes.
    1. Scoun
      Scoun 18 November 2019 20: 16 New
      +1
      Quote: NewOven
      the very role of the presence of the Russian contingent in the patrol!

      The role itself is to bring peace.
      Quote: NewOven
      So the Kurds themselves, with the light hands of their allies, do not rank among the citizens of Syria.

      It comes to the point that the Syrians will no longer consider them citizens and the Turks will begin to squeeze the "Kurdish question".
      1. Yeraz
        Yeraz 18 November 2019 21: 28 New
        +1
        Quote: Scoun
        It comes to the point that the Syrians will no longer consider them citizens and the Turks will begin to squeeze the "Kurdish question".

        Syrians do not consider them citizens anyway.
        1. Scoun
          Scoun 19 November 2019 05: 47 New
          +1
          Quote: Yeraz
          Quote: Scoun
          It comes to the point that the Syrians will no longer consider them citizens and the Turks will begin to squeeze the "Kurdish question".

          Syrians do not consider them citizens anyway.

          Well here how to look? I had in mind the attitude of the state and let's say the UN for example.
          The fact that such a cutting of land in the BV is “thank you” to the Europeans and yet, you can discuss it for a long time on such a topic, but for me, those “Syrians” who fixed atrocities in Maalül, Palmyra, Raqqa, who ate another person’s “heart”, are not Syrians, this is evil.
          1. Yeraz
            Yeraz 20 November 2019 00: 05 New
            0
            Quote: Scoun
            Well here how to look? I had in mind the attitude of the state and let's say the UN for example.

            on the part of the Syrian state, this was also the case. They did not give Kurds citizenship before this civil war.
            And it is still not clear whether everyone was given citizenship.
            For the state, they are traitors with whom they are forced to temporarily negotiate.
  25. Shahno
    Shahno 18 November 2019 20: 05 New
    +3
    Quote: G. Georgiev
    Why Russia does not use its notorious psychotronic generators, which operate and remotely modulate the human psyche. Or this development was also stopped due to bureaucracy

    That's what I like VO for.
    Have fun here .. laughing
  26. Uncle Sam
    Uncle Sam 18 November 2019 20: 06 New
    -3
    Great bgonevichok.
    And everything else is bullshit.
  27. Shahno
    Shahno 18 November 2019 20: 08 New
    +1
    Quote: Scoun
    Quote: Yeraz

    Here's a video...

    I looked at the video and the first desire that arose to jump out and scrabble over the grinning faces of the face. dancing to the tune of the player who has already thrown them.

    They do not dance. They really think so ..
  28. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 18 November 2019 20: 10 New
    0
    What Molotov, planes are shot down here without an answer ...
  29. G. Georgiev
    G. Georgiev 18 November 2019 20: 16 New
    -4
    Mr. Gorbachev in his speech to the UN several years ago, during his reign, mentioned that in Russia there are psychotron generators located on several satellites in orbit, which can operate and cover an area of ​​up to 4 France, with the possibility of changing waves to x-ray. Psychotronic and psychic generators are being developed in many countries.
  30. 1970mk
    1970mk 18 November 2019 20: 33 New
    +4
    In fact - ALIEN, and even with the Turks at the same time - an acceptor! Well, they themselves would have given birth to something ... but with the Turks at the same time.
  31. parusnik
    parusnik 18 November 2019 20: 35 New
    +2
    And it’s correct in the article it’s written ... Thoroughly, thoroughly put on ... The Turks must be squeezed out of Kurdistan ... and the Kurds should be made by their allies, and not enemies .. the Russians were put in order and the Turks were driven out and we breathe freely .. Who is now for Kurds Russian military police? An ally of the Turks, an enemy of the Kurds, if the zone jointly occupied by the Turks patrols ... And who is the ally for the Kurds? The United States and the type of oil for the Kurds have squeezed out and provide weapons and hang up noodles about independence ... And if now Russia, the capitalist state, and therefore the imperialist , then a similar policy should lead: Divide and conquer ...
  32. Servisinzhener
    Servisinzhener 18 November 2019 20: 39 New
    -1
    They want to provoke that ours began to shoot at them. To get the appropriate picture. How the "evil" Russians kill the "civilian" inhabitants.
    But all this is worth giving in to this provocation. But not quite as expected from us.
    One option is to provide the opportunity to deal with this settlement to the Turks.
    The second option is to catch a couple of dozen people very close to those who steer Kurdish formations in the area. And put in jail in Damascus. Explaining that if one of ours dies in a similar provocation. A person close to them can die from longing for their native Kurdistan.
    The options are tough. But in this part of the world this is the most effective option.
    Well, or take out to breathe fresh Varkuta air ..... To cool the ardor.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 18 November 2019 22: 01 New
      +1
      Quote: Servisinzhener
      They want to provoke that ours began to shoot at them. To get the appropriate picture. How the "evil" Russians kill the "civilian" inhabitants.

      The Turks say the same thing, answering the question of what the hell, how the targets stand and accept Molotov cocktails.
  33. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 18 November 2019 20: 48 New
    +1
    The whole “peculiarity” of the Asian war is when a battle rumbles in a nearby street at two steps, as if nothing had happened to trade and drink coffee laughing Surrender the Turks laughing laughing
  34. Shahno
    Shahno 18 November 2019 20: 52 New
    +1
    Quote: Servisinzhener
    They want to provoke that ours began to shoot at them. To get the appropriate picture. How the "evil" Russians kill the "civilian" inhabitants.
    But all this is worth giving in to this provocation. But not quite as expected from us.
    One option is to provide the opportunity to deal with this settlement to the Turks.
    The second option is to catch a couple of dozen people very close to those who steer Kurdish formations in the area. And put in jail in Damascus. Explaining that if one of ours dies in a similar provocation. A person close to them can die from longing for their native Kurdistan.
    The options are tough. But in this part of the world this is the most effective option.
    Well, or take out to breathe fresh Varkuta air ..... To cool the ardor.

    For the Caucasus, maybe this would be a ride. Here on BV. It is unlikely. Che something else is needed.
  35. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 18 November 2019 20: 55 New
    -1
    Quote: G. Georgiev
    Mr. Gorbachev in his speech to the UN several years ago, during his reign, mentioned that in Russia there are psychotron generators located on several satellites in orbit, which can operate and cover an area of ​​up to 4 France, with the possibility of changing waves to x-ray. Psychotronic and psychic generators are being developed in many countries.

    Gorbachev- illiterate yap, put forward by a gang in the leaders. Each member of the gang believed that this nonsense could steer as he needed. As a result, the multiple leadership on all sides is contradictory, and has destroyed not only the USSR, but the entire Warsaw Treaty.
  36. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 18 November 2019 20: 58 New
    0
    Quote: Servisinzhener
    They want to provoke that ours began to shoot at them. To get the appropriate picture. How the "evil" Russians kill the "civilian" inhabitants.
    But all this is worth giving in to this provocation. But not quite as expected from us.
    One option is to provide the opportunity to deal with this settlement to the Turks.
    The second option is to catch a couple of dozen people very close to those who steer Kurdish formations in the area. And put in jail in Damascus. Explaining that if one of ours dies in a similar provocation. A person close to them can die from longing for their native Kurdistan.
    The options are tough. But in this part of the world this is the most effective option.
    Well, or take out to breathe fresh Varkuta air ..... To cool the ardor.

    We also did not have enough of these animals. Feed and heat. They will not work anyway. Give to the Turks. Those who know what to do with them.
  37. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 18 November 2019 20: 58 New
    -1
    Asian by nature is a conqueror. But, since Tamerlane’s victories were far behind, Asian businessmen with pleasure and excitement capture European and American markets. The steel industry and other raw material segments are especially popular. Asian businesses are distinguished by military discipline, a clear internal hierarchy and strict subordination. Acting assertively and recklessly, Chinese and Japanese corporations have long and firmly taken leading positions in the global economy, and their influence continues to grow. The reason for this rapid growth is the ability of Asians to meekly obey their elders. To build a viable power vertical in Asian society is simple - you just need to occupy a certain social or financial position. And having reached certain heights, it is only necessary to make the right global decisions, the rest will be done by subordinates who work harder than the most industrious bees.

    A certain part of the Asian continent is infected with terrorism. Actually, terror is nothing more than a very profitable business with its own hierarchy, laws, leaders and unconditional authorities. In some Asian countries, up to two thirds of the population are involved in terrorist organizations, and in Palestine, almost 90% of adults. Working closely with the oil sheikhs, terrorist groups, groups and entire movements carry out an important mission - under the flag of the liberation struggle they keep oil prices at the right level. laughing
  38. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 18 November 2019 21: 25 New
    +3
    Well, why be surprised: where it bends, there is pressure. because if you bend once, you'll bend all the time until you change your mind. make the most of their capabilities. very pragmatic, cynical and ruthless. and who do they regret? if weak, it means they themselves are to blame, they will devour you.
  39. Sitearvi
    Sitearvi 18 November 2019 21: 35 New
    0
    Arabs are not Asians, they respect only power and strength, and no Vietnam will be there. Therefore, it is necessary to harshly suppress all provocations, otherwise it is impossible with them.
  40. NBV
    NBV 18 November 2019 21: 40 New
    +3
    Let me share how everything looks for a foreigner. Kurds think something is like this. What do we see? On the cars of the same convoy, the flags of Russia and Turkey stand nearby. Do you think that some Kurds do not consider the Turks and Russian allies ?! Why are you surprised by the reaction?
  41. Lexeus
    Lexeus 18 November 2019 21: 49 New
    -1
    Give these American sixes to the Turks for "eating" since they are so stupid ...
  42. Sapsan136
    Sapsan136 18 November 2019 21: 52 New
    +5
    These psychologists obviously did not serve either in the Caucasus or in the GDR, and their not clever advice only once again proves their futility ... Negotiations with elders in 70% of cases are a waste of time and even if you manage to come to an agreement with a particular village, it's nothing it willn’t, because in its vicinity a gang from another region can act without problems, which does not give a damn about local elders, or even doesn’t give a damn about everyone, or works for foreign curators .... In the German Democratic Republic, secular soldiers sometimes even didn't give a damn Moscow’s clever order, such as not succumbing to provocations of the FRG on the border ... Try to spit on the soldier of the GDR ... the inhabitants of the FRG did not spit in them, because they answered the spit with a shot to defeat from AK ... Moscow poses to the Kurds I endure the weak, and this will only spur local bandits to attack the columns of the Russian Federation with greater impudence ... This is the east, there the manifestations of weakness do not forgive ...
  43. Lesorub
    Lesorub 18 November 2019 21: 57 New
    +2
    Stop attacks on the military police of the Russian Federation in Syria: a method from psychologists

    In fact, we see the actions paid up, the Kurds are just an instrument (which does not know what deadly game they are playing), the Israelis would have found the cash flow and “rendered harmless”! For a patrol - everything can go from stones and Molotov cocktails to an RPG shot - is there any risk?
  44. Gas smoke protector
    Gas smoke protector 18 November 2019 22: 08 New
    0
    East is a delicate matter...
  45. Troublemaker
    Troublemaker 18 November 2019 22: 09 New
    -2
    Let me guess ... And who commands all the psychopaths in the country, what is the daughter of a reindeer herder (with my patriotic attitude to help in Syria) ??? ... There can’t be a MO pJack ... I already know the "practical" help of these psychologists by the count (more than a dozen years), of raving mares, when she bought chairs for “unloading” firefighters with zero gravity conditions of 8 lyam each ... =))) Yulia Sergeyevna Shoigu - tydy and typy ..., director of the Center for Emergency Psychological Aid Ministry of the Russian Federation for Civil Defense, Emergencies and Disaster Management since 2002, Vice President of the Russian Psychological Society (RPO), Deputy Chairman of the RPO Ethics Committee, candidate of psychological sciences, eldest daughter of the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation S. K. Shoigu .
  46. Troublemaker
    Troublemaker 18 November 2019 22: 22 New
    0
    Why am I forbidden to leave comments here?
    1. Avior
      Avior 19 November 2019 00: 16 New
      0
      Because you are a balamut! smile
      And also because of the features of the site, if you try to edit your post after a few minutes after it appears, you will receive a message that it is forbidden to leave comments. in fact, it only means that this comment can no longer be edited
  47. fedor13
    fedor13 18 November 2019 22: 42 New
    0
    And at home everyone would be responsible!
  48. Rostislav
    Rostislav 18 November 2019 22: 57 New
    +1
    Of course, there can be no talk of any forceful influence by the Russian military on the local population, since it is precisely the organizers of the provocations who count on the armed response.

    The task of the police is to maintain order, using force when necessary. What is the point of patrolling if the patrol does not respond to anything?
    Again, "endure can not answer"? And where to put the comma?
  49. Saboteur Holuy
    Saboteur Holuy 18 November 2019 23: 03 New
    0
    Gee ... in the photo AKMS 47 ... the new ones aren't rolling! Q.E.D!
  50. Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 18 November 2019 23: 17 New
    0
    Quote: 7,62x54
    What Molotov, planes are shot down here without an answer ...

    Why no answer.
    They answered economically, and very much.
    The basic principle, it is imperative to answer so that a conditioned reflex is recorded in the subcortex.

    But families, relatives of PMC fighters could be supported humanly, and not shyly shut their eyes:
    "we did not send them."
    After two years of ordeals, the court recognized the death of a fighter of the Wagner group:
    "... 39-year-old at that time Grigory Turcanu disappeared in the fall of 2017 and until recently was considered missing. This uncertainty created financial and domestic difficulties for the family members of the" commercial "soldier. For example, after the disappearance of a soldier from his elder daughter, 17-year-old Alina, did not have close relatives. The girl’s mother was deprived of parental rights ,,, "

    https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4162809