In Ukraine, said that before the return of the Russian Federation "damaged" boats and tug


Noteworthy are the comments that are being made at this moment in Ukraine regarding the return by Russia of two boats and a tugboat. We are talking about the boats “Berdyansk”, “Nikopol” and the tugboat “Yany Kapu” transferred by the Russian Federation in neutral waters, which carried out an armed provocation of the Naval Forces of Ukraine in Russian territorial waters in the area of ​​the Kerch Strait.


In Kiev, as it turns out, not everyone was inspired by the transfer of three Ukrainian courts by Russia. According to several politicians and political experts, "this is dangerous for Ukraine, since Russia expects its gesture to be appreciated abroad."

Political expert Anatoly Oktisyuk (Ukraine):

Russia managed to get out of the situation with the maximum bonus. Today, she has found a way not only to overcome isolation, but also to get Ukraine to adopt the Kremlin’s plan for the Donbass.

Recall that today the Kremlin confirmed its readiness to participate in the meeting in the so-called Norman format. This meeting is scheduled for December 9 in France.

Oktisyuk:

Russian diplomacy has made Ukraine once again. We need to learn from Russians how to get a big plus and political preferences out of minus.

Further, the Ukrainian expert writes that "in Russia, before the ships were handed over to Ukraine, the ships themselves were damaged and all equipment was cut into them." What exactly is the “damage” to Ukrainian vessels, which Oktisyuk himself calls “vessels”, and where evidence of “damage to property” is not reported. But the expert notes that now Ukraine will have to bring to Paris a document in which Zelensky will be obliged to comply with all the conditions of the Minsk agreements.

Meanwhile, Ukrainian Deputy Foreign Minister Yelena Zerkal announced that "the tribunal’s order to return the ships was not an end in itself." According to Zerkal, Ukraine now intends through international institutions to seek compensation from Russia for both sailors and tugboats.
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  1. knn54 18 November 2019 16: 20 New
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    The boy who came in to carol in ... his family still owed her.
    1. Lexus 18 November 2019 16: 25 New
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      Normal people said that there was no need to “return”, and now we get it. With the equipment from the Crimea it was the same. Once again convinced Bandera of impunity.
      1. New Year day 18 November 2019 16: 31 New
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        Quote: lexus
        Normal people said that there was no need to “return”, and now we get it. With the equipment from the Crimea it was the same. Once again convinced Bandera of impunity.

        Appetite comes with eating
        1. Lexus 18 November 2019 16: 48 New
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          Appetite comes with eating

          Just fat in stash, probably gulls gnawed
          1. tihonmarine 18 November 2019 18: 50 New
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            Quote: lexus
            Just fat in stash, probably gulls gnawed

            Refrigerators did not work, fat became rotten in a year.
            1. den3080 18 November 2019 19: 31 New
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              Quote: tihonmarine
              Quote: lexus
              Just fat in stash, probably gulls gnawed

              Refrigerators did not work, fat became rotten in a year.

              for Raguli it’s normal and very expensive and most of all Svidomo touches the soul .. about fat in stash :))
              but schA Benya will catch up and it turns out that there were platinum screws with diamond studs :)) and now brass and so on :))
              1. tihonmarine 18 November 2019 19: 39 New
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                Quote: den3080
                for Raguli it’s normal and very expensive and most of all Svidomo touches soul .. about fat in stash

                Well, fat with a sweetheart will also go to the soup for grouting.
          2. Baloo 20 November 2019 06: 14 New
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            Quote: lexus
            Appetite comes with eating

            Just fat in stash, probably gulls gnawed

            No, really messed up:
            1. Lexus 20 November 2019 17: 01 New
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              Thank! Great comment and picture! You even minusanuli without looking. For the company, probably. I am toxic. He put his modest counterweight to you. hi
          3. Mixweb 20 November 2019 16: 19 New
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            There they allegedly stole the toilets))))) To what extent the sanctions were brought to the country, that the toilets and sockets were removed from the trophies) Another change)
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        3. Eugene (Eugene) 20 November 2019 08: 42 New
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          And that equipment - those tanks that returned to VFU shot at residential buildings in New Russia and not only tanks. Once caved in, and then two (second time) caved in - "Hello, we are from Banderstat." No, of course this will not happen, the blood of our compatriots will be shed more today. And in 2014 it was possible to do with less losses.
      2. Svarog 18 November 2019 16: 37 New
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        Quote: lexus
        Normal people said that there was no need to “return”, and now we get it. With the equipment from the Crimea it was the same. Once again convinced Bandera of impunity.

        Now they will also compensate for the damage ..
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        2. Tersky 18 November 2019 18: 14 New
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          Quote: Svarog
          Now they will also compensate for the damage ..

          What damage, and in what? Could you tell? Oktysyuk has a foil on his head. Why are you going down to his level? Anything, for anything, at least for the ears, even for the legs, but pulled to "expose" the "bloody regime."
          1. Svarog 18 November 2019 18: 20 New
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            Quote: Tersky
            What kind of damage, and in what? Could you tell?

            In the money .. the ship is supposedly damaged ..
            Quote: Tersky
            even by the ears, even by the legs, but pulled to "expose" the "bloody regime."

            Where did you see in this comment that I expose the "bloody regime" and by the way, I never called it that .. I wanted to say that you shouldn’t give anything at all - this is firstly .. secondly, if you gave it away, you can assume that the damage will be compensated for the damage .. is it logical? And in general, why and for what purpose curtsies before Ukraine do? They owe us a lot of money ... our ships do not return .. but on our part, an attraction of unprecedented generosity
            1. Tersky 18 November 2019 18: 32 New
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              Quote: Svarog
              In the money .. the ship is supposedly damaged ..

              Fundamentally, undeniably, very, very powerful argument yes
              Quote: Svarog
              I wanted to say,

              Even Oksyuk understand what you wanted to say ... That's it, we close the flood.
              1. kit88 18 November 2019 19: 10 New
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                Previously reported:
                ... At the same time, weapons and airborne records that were at the time of the Ukrainian provocation were not returned to Kiev.

                If you literally understand this phrase, then all the weapons were dismantled from the boats. Hence the "damage."
                1. Tersky 18 November 2019 19: 24 New
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                  Quote: kit88
                  Literally
                  Literally, these boats are nothing more than vehicles for violators in an attempt to armed invasion of the territorial waters of the Russian Federation.
                  Quote: kit88
                  all weapons were dismantled from the boats.

                  When exchanging or returning agents, trespassers, etc. etc. they are returned to the back without weapons.
                  1. bouncyhunter 18 November 2019 20: 18 New
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                    Victor hi
                    Quote: Tersky
                    without weapons

                    It’s possible with weapons, just don’t grind the front sight. wink
                    1. Tersky 18 November 2019 21: 50 New
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                      Quote: bouncyhunter
                      It’s possible with weapons, just don’t grind the front sight.

                      ! good ! A good idea, but with the condition, with the introduction of a turn in 360 degrees and up to the very aiming bar yes Pasha hi !
                      1. bouncyhunter 18 November 2019 22: 01 New
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                        Since I myself am kind - I agree. lol
            2. Nyrobsky 18 November 2019 19: 43 New
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              Quote: Svarog
              Quote: Tersky
              What kind of damage, and in what? Could you tell?

              In the money .. the ship is supposedly damaged ..

              I don’t think that knowing who we have to deal with, our side gave the ships simply in pieces. Surely, the technical condition was documented, captured with video recording and transferred to the signature in the act. All that was drawn in terms of damage during transportation after the transfer is dill problems and let them run with them even on the ceiling.
              1. LiSiCyn 18 November 2019 22: 21 New
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                Greetings, Comrades hi
                Quote: Nyrobsky
                Everything that was drawn in terms of damage during transportation after the transfer,

                Definitely good “Chuby” figurative and deratization works were not paid. Here the rats devoured the wiring, and the weevils crowded for winter in the trunk channels and navigation devices. request
            3. tihonmarine 18 November 2019 19: 45 New
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              Quote: Svarog
              They owe us a lot of money ... our ships do not return .. but on our part, an attraction of unprecedented generosity

              Let owls calculate a couple of thousand bucks from the debt of 3 lard, and return the rest.
            4. Brturin 18 November 2019 20: 37 New
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              Quote: Svarog
              And in general, why and for what purpose curtsies before Ukraine do?

              Here is its own game, and another question is for whom these "curtsies". In June there was a decision of the Tribunal for the Law of the Sea on interim measures - between ignoring the decision and “please,” they found a middle ground, but on November 21-22, the first hearing. Maybe it wasn’t worth giving unnecessary arguments to the Ukrainian delegation now ... Wait and see, it’s not long ....
            5. Gray brother 18 November 2019 22: 09 New
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              Quote: Svarog
              In the money .. the ship is supposedly damaged ..

              And mined laughing
            6. Dersturm 19 November 2019 07: 46 New
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              Well, actually it’s not “supposedly”, but it’s damaged - I hope everyone saw the picture from the hole in the wheelhouse of the boat)
          2. Xnumx vis 18 November 2019 19: 28 New
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            Quote: Tersky
            Why are you going down to its level? Anything, for anything, at least for the ears, even for the legs but pulled to "expose" the "bloody regime."

            They are sick ... They are fighting a bloody hebe! Wrestlers like Svido!
        3. tihonmarine 18 November 2019 18: 51 New
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          Quote: Svarog
          Now they will also compensate for the damage ..

          Open the "gut" wider, sprinkle.
          1. tihonmarine 18 November 2019 19: 46 New
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            Quote: tihonmarine
            Open the "gut" wider, sprinkle.

            What are the Sumerians! I do not like !
      3. Gato 18 November 2019 16: 40 New
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        Quote: lexus
        no need to "return"

        That's right, it was necessary to use the Odessa raid as targets somewhere. Well, for trolling and generally raising the spirit wassat
        1. venik 18 November 2019 19: 00 New
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          Quote: Gato
          That's right, it was necessary to use the Odessa raid as targets somewhere. Well, for trolling and generally raising the spirit

          ========
          good Well, this is someone to "spirit" (fighting!) Raise .... and to whom, and "lower" !!! wassat
      4. Bogatyrev 18 November 2019 16: 42 New
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        Okay - this is not an official position, it’s some kind of x..lo-iksperd wrote, and everyone is listening so seriously. What will the authorities say?
        1. tihonmarine 18 November 2019 18: 53 New
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          Quote: Bogatyrev
          What will the authorities say?

          The agreement of the two parties on the return of three units, and nothing more.
      5. svp67 18 November 2019 17: 54 New
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        Quote: lexus
        Normal people said that there was no need to “return”, and now we get

        And what did you get? Some journalist said something there ... Sorry, but to each "journalist", otherwise there is no such name. Everything is immediately more interesting how it will go on December 9. Zelensky will be able to even keep the pencils on his desk, I remember that Poroshenko, at the last Minsk, was left without them ...
      6. boriz 18 November 2019 18: 10 New
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        In any case, it was impossible to give these troughs until the return of the Nord. It looks very ugly.
      7. Vladimir_6 18 November 2019 18: 39 New
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        Quote: lexus
        Normal people said that there was no need to “return”, and now we get it.

        Yes, surely everything is calculated. Remember how heated the forum was when they announced that they would release Nadezhda Savchenko. How deputies of the Rada rejoiced, and how they stigmatized the GDP. And where is that Nadia today?
        Zelensky takes the first right steps. So let them rejoice today in the return of their "unsinkable" fleet.
      8. Slavutich 18 November 2019 18: 41 New
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        So I don’t eat it, then I bite it.
        This must be remembered when working with them.
      9. 1976AG 18 November 2019 18: 46 New
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        And how many years should we keep them? Until they drown themselves or cut into scrap metal? And where does impunity? Returning the trash does not mean anything.
      10. Andrei Nikolaevich 18 November 2019 21: 21 New
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        Sharovarnikov where do not kiss, around, ass! The Kremlin played out in ,, kind uncles ,, So they got it.
      11. not main 19 November 2019 00: 01 New
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        Quote: lexus
        Normal people said that there was no need to “return”, and now we get it. With the equipment from the Crimea it was the same. Once again convinced Bandera of impunity.

        Oh well! But what about technology without forms? So this is just a pile of scrap metal! And the fact that it became scrap metal before us was returned for this!
      12. Den717 19 November 2019 07: 02 New
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        Quote: lexus
        so now we get

        And what got so interesting? Statement Mirror? So what? All European courts rushed to make compensation decisions? Here is the fact that Putin and Macron tuned in on the same wavelength, at least approximately, you somehow didn’t notice ... But the Mirror got scared ... They returned it and did it right. In order not to occupy a precious place at the berths, do not bear the cost of preserving this scrap metal. Ideally, of course, it would not be bad to drown them, but here, apart from moral satisfaction and political costs, there is no benefit except harm ...
    2. SRC P-15 18 November 2019 16: 25 New
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      In Ukraine, said that before the return of the Russian Federation "damaged" boats and tug

      Having made major repairs on them! yes laughing
      1. tihonmarine 18 November 2019 18: 56 New
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        Quote: SRC P-15
        Having made major repairs on them!

        And this can already be considered as a violation of storage rules, "what they took, then they gave it back."
    3. Thrifty 18 November 2019 16: 36 New
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      The ships were not given to those, but it was necessary to transfer them to the republics ...
      1. tihonmarine 18 November 2019 18: 57 New
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        Quote: Thrifty
        The ships were not given to those, but their republics had to be transferred ..

        And who needs them? A tugboat, so generally built early 70's.
    4. Vend 18 November 2019 17: 06 New
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      Yes, who would doubt it. Lovers freebies.
    5. Alexander Petrov1 18 November 2019 20: 21 New
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      And also Ukraine said that Russia had also "destroyed the church of the 12th century" ... laughing
  2. sergo1914 18 November 2019 16: 20 New
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    We gave them boats and a tug and owe money for it? Normul.
    1. Berber 18 November 2019 16: 34 New
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      Are you surprised? Everything is very predictable. It remains only to laugh.
      1. Ural-4320 18 November 2019 16: 46 New
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        The first thing that came to mind in the light of this situation was the phrase of the secretary Misha Kozyrev from the play "Radio Day":
        “Lord, may I really be a fool?”

        How much rake can our management walk?
      2. Baloo 18 November 2019 18: 20 New
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        Quote: BerBer
        Are you surprised? Everything is very predictable. It remains only to laugh.

        The show goes on. And where is Zyuza dancing a cancan with a cord ballet? belay
    2. Polite Moose 18 November 2019 16: 41 New
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      Quote: sergo1914
      We gave them boats and a tug and owe money for it?

      And forgot to paint. Yeah. Here are thin faces.
      It was necessary to put fish in boats and cormorants there to arrange a refuge. So that the birds are full on ... filled in general. And in this form to return. With the sea spirit overpower.
    3. Golovan Jack 18 November 2019 17: 00 New
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      Quote: sergo1914
      Normul

      Well Duc said zhezh: when the Sumer was born, the Jew - cried laughing
      1. 210ox 18 November 2019 17: 38 New
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        Well, let them flood them in token of contempt for the aggressor in the raid of Odessa. crying
    4. venik 18 November 2019 21: 19 New
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      Quote: sergo1914
      We gave them boats and a tug and owe money for it? Normul.

      ======
      Ha! This is what ....
      Somewhere quite recently, the Commander-in-Chief of the Navy (in the "person" of the tank Admiral of the Navy I. Voronchenko) - I’m not joking - he REALLY tankman (!) In a completely incomprehensible way, "transformed" into a sailor! It made a demand to return the Ukrainian ships detained in Crimea back in 2014 ....
      The answer was completely unexpected: "Yes, take it even today!" .......
      - Silent scene ....
      There is no money, no opportunities, no berths, no ready-made crews, no money for repairs and maintenance - in short, NOTHING! And not expected ...
      Somewhere for a week, "Admiral-General" - "was lost" ..... And then he issued:
      "You are OBLIGED to overhaul ALL ships and tow them to Odessa. Then we will carry out a defect and determine: "how much more you SHOULD us to us!"....
      The answer was polite, but harsh, somewhat reminiscent of the notorious phrase from L. Kassil’s children's book "Conduit and Swambler": "And by" by ... "by ... not good ...?" (which, according to the aforementioned book, means: "But you don’t want to receive from the" portrait "?" .......
      That was the end of it .......
      1. Astra wild 18 November 2019 21: 56 New
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        Ilf and Petrov in the "Golden Calf" sounds: "But huhu is not hoho?"
  3. Honest Citizen 18 November 2019 16: 20 New
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    Meanwhile, Ukrainian Deputy Foreign Minister Yelena Zerkal announced that "the tribunal’s order to return the ships was not an end in itself." According to Zerkal, Ukraine now intends through international institutions to seek compensation from Russia for both sailors and tugboats.

    Normal move. They also want to cut money, although the "international" court can award it.
    1. K-612-O 18 November 2019 16: 26 New
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      The decisions of the international maritime tribunal do not apply in any way (!) To warships and do not apply to the internal seas of the states of which the Sea of ​​Azov is.
      All these dances with the courts in favor of the Sumerian awareness were overwhelmed when the zrad came.
      And the plan was that we would drown these troughs and preferably with the sailors.
      1. Honest Citizen 18 November 2019 16: 28 New
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        Yes, everything is clear with the plan. You will recall how the screech and horror stood in the "non-living media" about the "act of aggression".
        I am simply convinced that Ukraine will sue and go on instances. So in Europe they can also mislead us by recognizing, or rather, having already awarded us, that we owe something there. That's what sadness is.
        1. tihonmarine 18 November 2019 19: 11 New
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          Quote: Honest Citizen
          I am simply convinced that Ukraine will sue and go on instances.

          Who will disassemble there? By definition, these are not sailors, but violators of the state border of the Russian Federation. Damage? Which one? The tugboat of the 70 of the year, the boats “cost three rubles in the market year”, well, who will take it apart in court for a couple of thousand bucks from a finger sucked out. But "ponyat" is a holy thing. Sick.
      2. New Year day 18 November 2019 16: 34 New
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        Quote: K-612-O
        Decisions of the international maritime tribunal do not apply in any way (!) To warships


        So it is, but why his decision was somehow fulfilled!
        1. K-612-O 18 November 2019 16: 37 New
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          How sideways is that ?! There was no money, no withdrawal of charges, no extradition of sailors with legal clearance. And the deadlines all by that decision came out. Do not confuse procedures.
          1. New Year day 18 November 2019 16: 44 New
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            Quote: K-612-O
            There was no money, no withdrawal of charges, no extradition of sailors with legal clearance.

            suspected of armed invasion of the territory of the Russian Federation quietly left the FSB isolation ward and escorted by flashing lights to the airport. Just as calmly passed the border and customs control and flew home.
            Are you about this procedure?
            1. K-612-O 18 November 2019 16: 54 New
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              There was no legal clearance, no one has withdrawn charges, written obligations to participate in court hearings. The exchange was made, and again they returned to us also people who remained under investigation or with not dropped charges. And they are not suspects, but accused. He was charged with evidence of a criminal act.
              1. New Year day 18 November 2019 16: 58 New
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                Quote: K-612-O
                There was no legal clearance, no one has withdrawn charges, written obligations to participate in court hearings. The exchange was made, and again they returned to us also people who remained under investigation or with not dropped charges. And they are not suspects, but accused. He was charged with evidence of a criminal act.

                Do you think that the accused will come to court in Moscow? laughing
                1. K-612-O 18 November 2019 17: 03 New
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                  They can also appear on Skype, but in the refusal of the court, the article is also hung up. Legal procedures they are, how much the rope does not curl and one end. A vivid example of criminal cases of war crimes of Estonians
                  1. New Year day 18 November 2019 17: 06 New
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                    Quote: K-612-O
                    They can also appear on Skype, but in the refusal of the court, the article is also hung up.

                    Why it seems that they will say differently on Skype, and they sawed on our articles
                    downhill
                    1. Amin_vivec 18 November 2019 18: 58 New
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                      They will be listed in Russia on the wanted list, life is long, Ukraine is not eternal))))
        2. Victorio 18 November 2019 16: 41 New
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          Quote: Silvestr
          So then it is, but why his decision was somehow fulfilled !.

          ===
          it’s very similar to the topic by the decision of the Stockholm court, such as nothing will and will not shine with money for Ukraine, and Putin is already declaring discounts and zeroing mutual claims (which do not threaten anything?).
          1. New Year day 18 November 2019 16: 54 New
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            Quote: Victorio
            Putin already declares

            News lightning: Russia proposed Ukraine to extend the gas contract for a year or enter into a new one
            1. Honest Citizen 18 November 2019 17: 03 New
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              News lightning: Russia proposed Ukraine to extend the gas contract for a year or enter into a new one

              But were there doubts? This story repeats itself from year to year. Then reduce the price, then another "gesture of goodwill", such as "there people freeze" ...
            2. K-612-O 18 November 2019 17: 05 New
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              You fully read the requirements of Gazprom for Sumerians, which are also duplicated in the EC, either there or fulfill or goodbye. And the headlines we write are such that you can’t save up a corvalulu
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                1. Brturin 18 November 2019 22: 39 New
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                  There is such a thing as an appeal, by the end of November there must be a decision ... In the meantime .... how many have not been arrested Gazprom points to the appeal and ...
            3. asv363 18 November 2019 17: 20 New
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              Mandatory condition are:

              - the refusal of both parties from all mutual claims in international arbitration and the termination of all legal proceedings;

              - annulment of the decision of the Antimonopoly Committee of Ukraine to impose a fine on Gazprom for "violation of economic competition";

              - withdrawal of the petition of Naftogaz of Ukraine to initiate an investigation by the European Commission against Gazprom.
              1. Amin_vivec 18 November 2019 19: 03 New
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                That means there will be no contract, the conditions for the Sumerians are not feasible. A floating regasifier has already been brought to Germany, in case interruptions in gas supply begin - for the time being, before entering SP2, they will replace LNGas.
  4. mig29mks 18 November 2019 16: 22 New
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    Shoot like a mad dog !!! Already sick of ukriya !!!
  5. janeck 18 November 2019 16: 22 New
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    tochnik solarium leaked!)
  6. janeck 18 November 2019 16: 24 New
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    and for parking at the pier, let the Ukrainians pay !!
  7. Kurare 18 November 2019 16: 24 New
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    "In Russia, before the transfer of the ships to Ukraine, the ships themselves damaged and cut all the equipment on them"

    I hope that before the "transfer of dishes" to the software, and even better, they put bookmarks in the chips. That at the first meeting with the Russian border guards, these "vessels" themselves began to drape! wink
    But seriously, that’s the way to do it!
    1. Volodin 18 November 2019 16: 31 New
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      Quote: Kurare
      I hope that before the "transfer of dishes" to the software, and even better, they put bookmarks in the chips.

      There of the chips - a maximum of a mouse with such a nickname)) With software even worse ...
      1. Kurare 18 November 2019 16: 36 New
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        Whatever it is made of iron or software, but when you try to use these pelvis for its intended purpose, they must self-destruct!
        1. Andrey VOV 18 November 2019 17: 19 New
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          These pelvis did not drown Toko because the seagulls are filthy, and IT does not sink
          1. Kurare 18 November 2019 17: 31 New
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            Let's just say: to drive poachers somewhere very, very close to the coast - they will completely disappear. But the way they tried to use them was just a mockery and a crime against their own sailors!
  8. kventinasd 18 November 2019 16: 25 New
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    According to Zerkal, Ukraine now intends through international institutions to seek compensation from Russia for both sailors and tugboats.

    These people just won’t calm down. They’ll spoil the worst. In the morning it is from birth.
    It was necessary to drown these troughs during the transfer, and the sailors to Kolyma to enlightenment.
    1. Looking for 18 November 2019 17: 10 New
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      And the best thing is to raise the Andreevsky flags. And solemnly. With broadcast to the whole world. To bring them into the Russian fleet. The "value" of such an acquisition is certainly doubtful. But believe me, a moral victory and international resonance would have paid off.
      1. Amin_vivec 18 November 2019 19: 06 New
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        It was necessary to distribute a loaf of bread ... And after a layer of tea droppings would reach 10 - 20 cm ... In a categorical form, require picking them back up by yourself. Illuminate this event on TV)))
  9. Gennady Fomkin 18 November 2019 16: 27 New
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    Give a rust trough and get more money for it? laughing laughing(when x ... l was born, the Jew cried. laughing
  10. Koppec 18 November 2019 16: 28 New
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    When a Ukrainian born Jew cried. It is Russia that needs to learn from Ukraine.
    1. Berber 18 November 2019 16: 40 New
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      What to learn? no Do not respect yourself?
  11. Well done 18 November 2019 16: 30 New
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    They themselves are blooming and cut while being towed, the "arrows transferred" to us. Oktisyuk is jealous.
  12. Livonetc 18 November 2019 16: 33 New
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    Everything, everything, shaw acquired overwork, nevertheless perished! Three tape recorders, three movie cameras abroad, three domestic cigarette cases, a jacket ... suede ... Three. Jackets And they are still fighting for the honorary title of "House of High Culture of Life"
  13. Sitearvi 18 November 2019 16: 34 New
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    In Roskosmos they said that they lost the drill, so here it came up
  14. Retvizan 8 18 November 2019 16: 35 New
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    Savchenko, Sentsov, Ukrainian sailors languishing in the dungeons of the Kremlin, detained boats, systematically Kiev is deprived of high-profile informational reasons with which they are hysteria at all international venues.
    1. Honest Citizen 18 November 2019 16: 41 New
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      Those. according to your logic, should Crimea be returned? This is the very reason, even the occasion!
      Well, the idea with Savchenko paid off.
      Let's look at Sentsov and the sailors. Although, as for me, it would be better if the full term was unwound here, well, or at least half.
      But the boats themselves had to be handed over for scrap.
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        Quote: Honest Citizen
        Those. according to your logic, should Crimea be returned? This is the very reason, even the occasion!

        It is believed that even if you return the Crimea and pay them a trillion of moral damages, they will not calm down a bit. All the same, they will sue and demand, demand. And the courts will award and award. Such a nature - you can’t fix anything - I’ll free everything, sit on my neck and hang my legs.
        Sometime, someone will still have to solve this issue. And decide radically.
    2. Antares 18 November 2019 16: 55 New
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      Kiev systematically loses high-profile informational reasons with which they are hysterical at all international venues.

      Is it really the turn to ORDLO and even cooler to Krym?
      These are the most high-profile occasions in Kiev.
  15. Yaro Polk 18 November 2019 16: 35 New
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    Cheap, how petty, Russia doesn’t do anything more like spoiling your troughs, Russia always thinks more globally, it’s your farmer-suburban mentality, pile a bunch of doors under your door, complain to the UN yet .. wassat
    Rather, all the guns were removed from your pelvis, than spoil something there, is it logical?
  16. taiga2018 18 November 2019 16: 36 New
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    Well, that’s all right, because we have the majority of people in power who live in parallel reality, where Ukraine is still a fraternal country, and Ukrainians are fraternal people, which means that you can verbally set certain conditions and receive verbal assurances to fulfill them, take and return the military equipment ... One could probably be forced to sign something like an act of acceptance by which the Ukrainian side would refuse any claims ...
    1. 2 Level Advisor 18 November 2019 19: 29 New
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      I think that at the level of power where the decision was made, there is at least more access to information and I doubt very much that they think in terms of “brotherly people” .. therefore we don’t know all the nuances of making decisions and are unlikely to know if we don’t get to that level ..
  17. cosmonaut 18 November 2019 16: 40 New
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    yeah, it's from that series that everything died! three tape recorders, three movie cameras abroad, three domestic cigarette cases)) they’ll not tell you yet))
  18. Retvizan 8 18 November 2019 16: 43 New
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    Mirror, as well as Ukro - the media say that Russia was frightened of the "international sea trebunal" and therefore returned the boats and freed the sailors ...
    But in this case, the naive question arises: if Moscow had to return the sailors in every way, then why did Ukraine release “our prisoners” in return?
  19. Politruk-m 18 November 2019 16: 50 New
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    But always, Russia still has to stay .. Is anyone surprised?
  20. Souchastnik 18 November 2019 16: 55 New
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    Wait for a claim to the international court for damages due to lost profits. If the boats in Russia were not standing, they would have grabbed the polar Europe or half-boats. Billions so for $ 20.
  21. tank64rus 18 November 2019 16: 56 New
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    The Ukrainian fleet has been revived. Peremogoya.
    1. Looking for 18 November 2019 17: 16 New
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      all ernichayte.Russians. as if your jokes did not turn into bloody tears. Do not flirt with the reptile. And crush right away.
      1. Lena Petrova 18 November 2019 20: 13 New
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        Quote: Grigory B
        And what else had to be repaired?

        Yes, there the side of the tugboat is bent only a little. A pair of sheets of iron, 3 kg. electrodes and a can of paint - all for a short time.
      2. Astra wild 18 November 2019 22: 09 New
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        Do you seriously think that they will do: "in Moscow, beer is 3 hryvnias"? If only they try, then Ukraine will not be in the current state, and these "probovalschiki" emigrate in the worst case at best ....
  22. Alexey RA 18 November 2019 17: 06 New
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    But the expert notes that now Ukraine will have to bring to Paris a document in which Zelensky will be obliged to comply with all the conditions of the Minsk agreements.

    Vilely how! smile
    How dare anyone even demand from Ukraine to comply with the signed agreements!
    1. cniza 18 November 2019 18: 37 New
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      They took away another visor and got rid of the trash.
  23. mag nit 18 November 2019 17: 08 New
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    Maybe it was also necessary to reserve fuel?
  24. Puzoter 18 November 2019 17: 14 New
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    Where Khokhla do not kiss everywhere joppa. Army folklore.
  25. 7,62h54 18 November 2019 17: 21 New
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    And the Selyuki could say that there were 4 ships, and only 3 were returned.
  26. Grigory b 18 November 2019 17: 25 New
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    And what else had to be repaired?
  27. Dmitry Potapov 18 November 2019 17: 31 New
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    Well, they do not say that they took away the aircraft carrier, but now they are giving the boats away.
    1. cniza 18 November 2019 18: 35 New
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      This will be the next step.
  28. Faina Kostina 18 November 2019 17: 36 New
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    Here it is: they arrested new ones, and returned the crumpled and spoiled vessels))))
  29. Alien From 18 November 2019 17: 38 New
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    Wonderful people are these non-brothers? what don’t do it, everything’s wrong ........ the panning campaign will not pass without leaving a trace ..
  30. O. Bender 18 November 2019 17: 41 New
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    It was necessary to give in the Crimea, tse Well Ukraine.
  31. Vladimir_2U 18 November 2019 17: 44 New
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    Strange, I thought that Russia damaged ukronautilusy before receiving. )))
  32. rocket757 18 November 2019 17: 55 New
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    They returned the trough and returned as unnecessary.
    Reverence towards foreign "partners" .... use with gulkin figs, on the other hand the troughs fused and okay.
    I wouldn’t give it, I gave it to the militia! For them, such a thing would have gone for the future. BUT.....
    1. cniza 18 November 2019 18: 34 New
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      There is benefit, albeit small ... we made a gesture of goodwill.
      1. rocket757 18 November 2019 18: 54 New
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        There is benefit, albeit small ... we made a gesture of goodwill.

        Hi soldier
        Honestly, all sorts of gestures could be used, but all this helps somewhat to rescue our people, return them home .... nothing is sorry for this, especially the trash we do not need.
        1. cniza 18 November 2019 19: 43 New
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          Greetings! hi Here I am about it ...
          1. rocket757 18 November 2019 19: 53 New
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            The team with the sane is no better than the software! It is safer to communicate with such people through their sponsors.
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              The team with sane sane is no better than the software

              Lana Zerkal inherited from PO (Yatsenyuk was appointed)
              By the way, a good professional. Knows business
              She and her team have achieved a lot in those international institutions where required.
              The title of Honored Lawyer is not in vain.
              I still remember her by arbitration.
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                She and her team have achieved a lot in those international institutions where required.

                So, for interesu, WHAT SUCH ARE THEY GOT and what useful, necessary did this bring the country to Ukraine?
                In fact, even if you’re at least three times honored figure, if the initial task is so-so, then you will get the corresponding result.
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          Quote: rocket757
          but all this helps somewhat to rescue our people, to return them home

          our tanks on the Maidan would be much more helpful in '14, there is nothing worse than half measures and constant concessions
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            Quote: Barmaleyka
            our tanks on the Maidan would be much more helpful in '14, there is nothing worse than half measures and constant concessions

            I always criticize deficiencies !!! Only this is the reason to remember and not repeat the old ... imperfections.
            There is no need to feel sorry, we move forward with the song!
  33. Vdi73 18 November 2019 17: 58 New
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    By yourself, do not evaluate Russian, petty, dirty, cowards.
  34. Berkut24 18 November 2019 18: 03 New
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    Ukrainians manage to spit acid even in gifts that they give.
    1. cniza 18 November 2019 18: 33 New
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      Here - here, we could not return anything.
  35. vladcub 18 November 2019 18: 04 New
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    Window Putin, again pulled our nose. So you need to understand Mr. Oktisyuk?
  36. cniza 18 November 2019 18: 32 New
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    According to Zerkal, Ukraine now intends through international institutions to seek compensation from Russia for both sailors and tugboats.


    Yeah, that would be enough for a couple of cruisers ..., we could never, ever return anything.
  37. comradChe 18 November 2019 18: 42 New
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    Macron called "come to us", but the oligarchs pushed friends to the sides, shifting from impatience from foot to foot, and our gunfire, pulling up the ports, rushed to meet .... Proud UK, you say !!! UGH!!!
  38. Amateur 18 November 2019 19: 32 New
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    And no claims or compensation.
  39. Catfish 18 November 2019 20: 01 New
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    Yes, this junk itself is safely falling apart, but did they expect that our sailors would also service these boxes? laughing
  40. Guards turn 18 November 2019 20: 19 New
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    “Wow, we left the bay”
    Ahead of our friend is the ocean.
    Our girls hid
    Handles in couplings
    And they are waiting for us, on the shore.

    And somewhere in the Crimea
    Girl in a pink sundress
    And her mother did not let her go for a walk.
    But we asked:
    Let go, mom, daughter with us
    After all, we damn, submariners,
    We are strong!
  41. _689 18 November 2019 20: 47 New
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    Do these boats also damage Mona?
  42. January 18 November 2019 20: 56 New
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    I think this is another blow of the bloody Mordor. The ships were returned to Ukraine and they must again be maintained. And this is a lot of money. I think a new crew will be quickly loaded onto them now and again allowed into a breakthrough. I mean captive. And the savings and what any profit on the ships can break off ....
  43. Incvizitor 18 November 2019 20: 59 New
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    That's right, there was a check, they didn’t pass it, which means that you can wipe your feet and greyhound further, the gopot’s only that way, and “ours” suffered and will continue to make excuses and pay.
  44. Alexey from Perm 18 November 2019 21: 21 New
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    Well, as you would like, Ukraine thinks this way: showed a concession here, so it must give way in another.
  45. Avior 18 November 2019 21: 22 New
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    It remains to find out who Anatoly Oktisyuk is unknown to anyone and why should he be cluttered with his "opinion"?
  46. Barmaleyka 18 November 2019 22: 45 New
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    In Ukraine, said that before the return of the Russian Federation "damaged" boats and tug
    I don’t understand ALL of this circus at all, so two of our Sumerians did not rescue the ship, but here ...
    in this situation, it was easier to drown them during detention
  47. Lexa-149 19 November 2019 01: 13 New
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    It was necessary to transmit by act, with signatures of the parties and seals. And then immediately publish these acts. Then the “non-brothers” would have no reason to present something. Although ... With them it will become. Tongue wagging - do not toss bags.
  48. Evil 55 19 November 2019 02: 54 New
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    Damaged ... only ... had to be drowned during the passage ...
  49. Bear040 19 November 2019 03: 11 New
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    To give weapons to Bandera, even if it is bad and stupid and criminal ... It would be more correct to use these boats as targets in military firing of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation ... And the Russian fleet and Ukraine would have a science ...
  50. Charik 19 November 2019 03: 11 New
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    they frightened the world, we’ll stop gas transit through Ukraine, but they themselves donated their boats, they didn’t take theirs away, and they drove gas, swan (as Zhirinovsky would say) before someone