C-400 for Saudi Arabia - Protection from Iran and US Counterweight

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On the eve, according to Military Review, from the air show in Dubai, there were reports that Moscow and Riyadh were discussing the options for supplying C-400 anti-aircraft missile systems to Saudi Arabia. At the same time, it was suggested that the Russian president and representatives of the Saudi monarchy recently discussed the topic of supply prospects during the visit of the Russian president to the kingdom.

The Saudis are going to protect their strategic facilities with Russian S-400 air defense systems, including oilfield and oil processing facilities. At least that's what it said officially. But in this regard, the question arises: the objects of the same oil refining infrastructure in Saudi Arabia have already been “protected” by American complexes, including Patriot. These complexes, as you know, were powerless against attacks using drones and rockets.



Recall that at one time, militants in Syria repeatedly tried to use drones to attack the Russian Hmeimim air base. And in this they opposed them not with the S-400 air defense system (whose goals and objectives are different), but with completely different military hardware, including the Pantsir-S1 air defense system.

On this basis, we can conclude that Saudi Arabia does not buy C-400 from Russia not for the purpose of, but rather not only in order to protect its subsoil from unknowns (according to Riyadh, Iranian) missiles and drones. The fact is that in order to more effectively cover strategic facilities, Riyadh will need a contract for the mentioned Armor. By the way, earlier in Saudi Arabia they already spoke about the prospect of concluding such a deal. But not only that. Riyadh is well aware that friendship with the United States is an ephemeral phenomenon: if today Americans swear an unbreakable partnership, they deliver weaponthen tomorrow loyalty may disappear, especially if it seems to Washington that Riyadh oil is "not as democratic as American interests demand."

In this regard, Russian air defense missile defense systems for Saudis are becoming a counterweight, which can be extremely effective when in contact with the United States. And therefore C-400 for the Saudis is both a defense against Iran and a real counterweight to the United States. And in the States themselves, they perfectly understand this, by all means trying to "convince" Riyadh that the Russian complexes are "not needed", since the United States "will always help." The Turks were not convinced.
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  1. -2
    18 November 2019 11: 06
    They most likely need either the Iron Dome or Thor. And that would work as much as possible without the human factor.
    1. +6
      18 November 2019 11: 15
      Quote: Zaurbek
      They probably need

      What is the difference to us? The main industry for us is to provide people with jobs and salaries with orders. And preferably for a long time. I think so.
      1. -17
        18 November 2019 11: 17
        Well, you sell C400 there, then everyone will train on it, then it will stop shooting down Western planes ......
        1. 0
          18 November 2019 11: 20
          Quote: Zaurbek
          then everyone will train on it,

          You suggest not to trade at all?
          1. -1
            18 November 2019 11: 28
            I offer it thoughtfully, to each client. There are Buki .... Armor ... Arabs are not Turks far.
        2. +6
          18 November 2019 11: 34
          The S-400 has already sold a lot and will be sold. We have been in service with it for more than 10 years, there is no special direct critical secrecy in it, especially since we are talking about export options.
          1. +12
            18 November 2019 11: 50
            Quote: Voyager
            it's about export options.

            This is the key phrase in all S-400 deals. But, unfortunately, many continue to believe that, for the sake of the momentary profit of Judas from our military-industrial complex, they are selling weapons that will be used against us or, after careful study, are leveled. At the same time, they completely lose sight of the fact that it is technically impossible to disassemble-study-assemble the complex (you can only disassemble it), that it is very likely that the export version contains "tabs" in the software or hardware (or both at once), just in case. And the most important thing is to squeeze the guns out of this segment of the arms market.
          2. -1
            18 November 2019 11: 52
            These customers can be commented out .....
          3. -1
            18 November 2019 12: 01
            We have only 54 of them complexes, and then to Syria, then to Serbia. The main air defense system is the S-300.
    2. +1
      18 November 2019 13: 30
      Quote: Zaurbek
      They most likely need either the Iron Dome or Thor.

      They don’t need the first one, there is an American Patriot (whose price / effectiveness is being discussed). In addition, Israel is not eager to sell its dome left-to-right (the reasons are also discussed).
      Torahs / Beeches / Shells ... it is likely that through the S-400 they quietly creep along with the Turks to layered solutions, you just need to wait and chew on the popcorn.
    3. +2
      18 November 2019 17: 59
      Quote: Zaurbek
      And that would work as much as possible without the human factor.

      Arabs, in general, it is advisable to purchase all military equipment along with the crews.
  2. +1
    18 November 2019 11: 12
    Well, yes, they convinced Turkey - they did not convince. Now you have to switch to Saudi Arabia - to convince. lol
  3. +1
    18 November 2019 11: 26
    During his voyage to BV, Trump agreed to kind of (keyword) put weapons in the hundreds of billions of $. And now how to live with it?
  4. +1
    18 November 2019 11: 32
    Russian air defense systems have now become not only weapons themselves, but also the subject of political and economic bargaining with the United States .....
    1. 0
      18 November 2019 12: 01
      Quote: Alexey-74
      Russian air defense systems have now become not only weapons themselves, but also the subject of political and economic bargaining with the United States

      Especially after Trump proposed a deal for 400 lard greens to Erdogan for refusing to acquire the S-100.
  5. 0
    18 November 2019 11: 39
    from the air show in Dubai, there were reports that Moscow and Riyadh were discussing the supply of S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems to Saudi Arabia.

    Discuss and discuss ... what is the essence of the issue then?
    1. +2
      18 November 2019 13: 10
      Most likely they want "all inclusive" as they are accustomed to, including the crew ... Any car without people is just a pile of scrap metal, so they probably think about how not to offend the United States and balychka zist laughing They have money, and like a fool of a shag, and they need real protection, not exhibition samples ... The popados is noble, of course, but before that he had to think and not show the goat to the neighbors ...
      1. +2
        18 November 2019 14: 08
        Quote: Demon_is_ada
        Any machine without people is just a pile of scrap metal.

        This is expensive and not scrap metal ... what if they soprut unit, that joy to all flying, there will be ???
        1. +2
          18 November 2019 14: 14
          It depends on who matches lol if there are such women, then there will be a pile of scrap metal in another place ... though at the price of precious metals ... recourse
          1. +1
            18 November 2019 14: 33
            Interestingly, and if the entire BV is purchased by our anti-aircraft systems, how will striped and elected fly there?
            It is clear that the camel at the remote control is the same as a monkey with a grenade ... what if he can press it correctly? All the same, the system is advanced, the degree of automation there is high.
            1. +1
              18 November 2019 14: 37
              ... probably now and now and not far from home laughing There is a possibility that bears ride motorcycles in the circus ...
              1. +1
                18 November 2019 14: 48
                Well, it’s not worth talking about it sooner or completely. Let's look at the development of events.
  6. +3
    18 November 2019 11: 45
    Quote: Zaurbek
    Well, you sell C400 there, then everyone will train on it, then it will stop shooting down Western planes ......

    He is not a girl, so that to shoot down not to shoot down.
    Yes, and sell export versions.
    Do not worry so much for Russia.
    Russia will create new versions of defensive weapons and will find a way to overcome other people's missile defense systems.
  7. -1
    18 November 2019 11: 46
    From low-flying drones and KR S-400 is as useless as the Patriot.
    They need Thor and Carapace.
    1. +1
      18 November 2019 11: 56
      I wrote this .... and it is advisable to work in automatic mode.
      1. +2
        18 November 2019 12: 16
        Triumphs alone will not do the weather for the Saudis
        they need to create at least a zonal (frontier) anti-aircraft missile cover for the most important objects of the military-economic potential and the armed forces in the most probable directions of the air enemy’s actions:
        ZRPK short-range "Tor", "Pantsir";
        Short-range air defense system "Osa-AKM"; S-125 "Pechora-2M";
        Medium-range air defense missile system "Buk-M2E";
        S-200VE "Vega" long-range air defense system; S-300 or S-400
        Among other things, to protect objects from air and space reconnaissance means, Krasukha electronic warfare systems should be deployed on its territory.
    2. +1
      18 November 2019 13: 01
      Quote: voyaka uh
      From low-flying drones and KR S-400 is as useless as the Patriot.
      They need Thor and Carapace.

      The S-400 operates from 10 meters, it is not logical and expensive to use such a complex on a drone, therefore they use Tor and Shell.
    3. +2
      18 November 2019 13: 16
      Alexei, you mislead the people, the c400 is not useless, it can hit on ground targets, if anything, but it’s a little expensive, even for Saudis you can go around the world. I foresee questions in advance - we put on a knoll, blocking the minimum distance for the use of missiles, we cut flight control, we cut down homing and produce remote detonation. Against a swarm of waabsche vechch considering the number of fragments in warhead bully
      1. -2
        18 November 2019 13: 24
        The S-400 has not yet had combat use. But the large size of the missile makes it clear that it is tailored for high-altitude aerial and ballistic targets, including high-speed interceptions "in pursuit".
        KR and UAV intercept missiles of much smaller sizes. Like Tori, Shell, etc.
        1. +1
          18 November 2019 14: 20
          Alexei, it’s clear that this should be so and it is economically feasible, you are still a Jew hi But what if the "roast cock" bites? And the cost of the rocket is comparable to the cost of damage to the plant? The question is in the frequency of probable raids, is it profitable or not ... Otherwise, yes, that's why we have layered air defense, we save on missiles and protected objects, well, we don't have a printing press crying
        2. 0
          18 November 2019 21: 47
          Quote: voyaka uh
          KR and UAV intercept missiles of much smaller sizes. Like Tori, Shell, etc.

          Yes, only the S-400 gives just target designation to the Shells in Khmeimim. Separately, the Shell will not be so effective.
    4. +2
      18 November 2019 14: 48
      The battery of shells seems to be included in the c400 division. They work as a couple.
  8. +1
    18 November 2019 12: 08
    The United States loves to hack the "wrong" democracies, and in order for the hacking to be 100% successful, I think that it is very profitable for potential clients to hack into the "protection" produced by them!
  9. +2
    18 November 2019 13: 06
    ".... S-400 for Saudi Arabia - protection from Iran ...."

    The Saudis understood what a "patriot" is and decided not to tempt fate anymore.
    And Israel, while the back of the head scratches ?! Officially take a turn - US Congress
    he will swear strongly, or buy it through "stand-ups" and call it "Sling under the iron cumpolo". belay
  10. 0
    18 November 2019 13: 41
    Only combat use of the S400 can kill doubts about effectiveness. It is necessary to plant one Jewish f16, immediately the line will be built.
  11. 0
    18 November 2019 15: 13
    THEY HAVE TERRORISTS US TO THE CAUCASUS, and we now give them C400