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German MP accuses US of decomposing NATO and adds that it welcomes this

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German MP accuses US of decomposing NATO and adds that it welcomes this

Statements by French President Emmanuel Macron about serious problems in the structure of the North Atlantic military bloc were also picked up in Germany. Recall that a few days ago, the French president said that NATO has "brain death" and that the United States has lost interest in its European allies.


They accused the United States of undermining NATO unity and solidarity in Berlin. So, German parliamentarian Alexander Noah noted that he only hears “rhetorical exercises” from Brussels about the unified security system in Europe provided by NATO. In fact, this principle, according to the Bundestag deputy, is not valid for everyone today.

Alexander Noah cited Turkey as an example.

From a statement by the German parliamentarian:
Until recently, the United States of America exploited its personal interests, including through NATO. But today, Turkey does the same thing.


According to Noah, the North Atlantic bloc is no longer single.

Alexander Noah:

NATO is eroding more and more. The US itself is corrupting the alliance. And I will say that I can only welcome it.

The German parliamentarian is a longtime critic of NATO. According to him, NATO’s eastward movement towards the Russian borders does not create a single European security system, but rather makes it impossible.

From the statements of Alexander Noah:

The Bundeswehr has nothing to do near the borders of Russia.

It is high time for NATO to dissolve, and instead create a full-fledged alliance with Russia, and then European security will really be so.
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  1. andrewkor
    andrewkor 18 November 2019 06: 13 New
    +21
    Alexander Noah voiced the long-standing nightmare of the Anglo-Saxons: any union between Germany and Russia! This union would really benefit Europe, not counting the islanders!
    1. 32363
      32363 18 November 2019 06: 15 New
      0
      it is unlikely that Germany has strongly overgrown all liberal shit from within; they themselves will not be able to cope.
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 18 November 2019 06: 53 New
        +4
        Juvenile and tolerance like AIDS corrodes the Germans from the inside ... I look at modern Germans and I can not find any resemblance to the Germans of the 40s ... damn what.

        I understand there when Brezhnev for the sake of politics kissed Honecker ... but here what?
        1. Alex_59
          Alex_59 18 November 2019 07: 22 New
          +10
          Quote: The same Lech
          I can not find any resemblance to the Germans of the 40's ... dash that.

          How many similarities can you find when looking at us current with our ancestors 40's? All the same. Only deformations of a different kind, with its small-town smack.
        2. Tank hard
          Tank hard 18 November 2019 07: 24 New
          +8
          Quote: The same Lech
          Juvenile and tolerance like AIDS corrodes the Germans from the inside ... I look at modern Germans and I can not find any resemblance to the Germans of the 40s ... damn what.

          Certain forces have done a good job of this, now they are trying to "work" with Russia. A deputy of the State Duma of the Russian Federation, Oksana Pushkina, associates are trying to push into the country the law of the RLS (the law on domestic violence. The goals are supposedly good, but they know where. If they accept, Russia will quickly become a society like Germany. But they want thisabout:
        3. Thunderbolt
          Thunderbolt 18 November 2019 07: 56 New
          +1
          Quote: The same Lech
          I understand there when Brezhnev for the sake of politics kissed Honecker ... but here what?

          Whether the case is Alexander Noah, the representative of the party who did not score 10%.)))
          1. den3080
            den3080 18 November 2019 11: 04 New
            0
            Quote: Thunderbolt
            Quote: The same Lech
            I understand there when Brezhnev for the sake of politics kissed Honecker ... but here what?

            Whether the case is Alexander Noah, the representative of the party who did not score 10%.)))

            Noah (if that's him) is a cross. He does not need an ark. Eye shadow, blush on cheeks, lips tint. And ... try the touch. Tear :)
            Well, it looks like in the photo :)
        4. New Year day
          New Year day 18 November 2019 12: 46 New
          +2
          Quote: The same Lech
          I look at modern Germans and I can not find any resemblance to the Germans of the 40s ..

          Same! How could Germany conquer Europe? Looks like the Germans were completely spoiled, no longer capable of anything like that. We feel good, but pah-pah they want to make us the same
    2. Same lech
      Same lech 18 November 2019 06: 18 New
      -2
      union of Germany and Russia!

      I don’t remember that between Germany and Russia there was once an alliance ... there were temporary interests ... but nothing more.
      Germans will never be our allies ... these countries have too different worldviews ... different civilizations.
      1. 32363
        32363 18 November 2019 06: 21 New
        +3
        Catherine’s times do not remind the union?
        1. Same lech
          Same lech 18 November 2019 06: 23 New
          -1
          Catherine’s times do not remind the union?

          Are you laughing or something ... little Apraksin beat the Prussians together with their Frederick.
          Read Pikul about these times ... very entertaining.
        2. den3080
          den3080 18 November 2019 06: 43 New
          +1
          Quote: 32363
          Catherine’s times do not remind the union?

          Super!!! This made my day. In 1760, Russian troops took Berlin. This happened during the Seven Years War.
          Frederick II, purely from allied considerations, surrendered Berlin to Russian troops, and not to the Austrians.
          Understand wink
          In the time of Catherine II and with the Turks were the most tender allied relations. We must not forget about it :)
        3. demo
          demo 18 November 2019 06: 58 New
          +3
          Absolutely right.
          From Peter 1 onwards, if not the emperor, then the emperor’s wife are Germans.
          Even in Russian, the word German was not a definition of nationality, but a designation of a foreigner (since they did not know the Russian language, they were silent, i.e. they were dumb).
          But at the same time, alliances with the Germans both to us and to them often came out sideways, both of them.
      2. andrewkor
        andrewkor 18 November 2019 06: 32 New
        +1
        So this hypothetical union was actively discouraged by agents of influence in both Empires. For example, the assassination of Paul the First, sponsored by Britain. And on the throne of that one sat the Hanover dynasty with its extensive connections on the Continent. I think so!
      3. Sayan
        Sayan 18 November 2019 06: 35 New
        +2
        More recently, during the time of Chancellor Schroeder, they cooperated well with the Germans and much was said about the creation of the Paris – Berlin – Moscow axis. Not fused.
        1. Aerodrome
          Aerodrome 18 November 2019 06: 39 New
          0
          German MP accuses US of decomposing NATO and adds that it welcomes this
          oh .. ah .. I do not like you ... faster ... I hate. aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. (script not for sale)
        2. Karen
          Karen 18 November 2019 06: 51 New
          -1
          Quote: Sayan
          More recently, during the time of Chancellor Schroeder, they cooperated well with the Germans and much was said about the creation of the Paris – Berlin – Moscow axis. Not fused.

          Alkash announced about such an axis ... Naturally, his boyars were against it ...
      4. Per se.
        Per se. 18 November 2019 06: 39 New
        +7
        Quote: The same Lech
        Germans will never be our allies ... these countries have too different worldviews ... different civilizations.
        Come on! Almost all the queens were German with us, and the emperors were half-blood Germans. Russians and Germans perfectly complement each other precisely in their differences. The trouble of Russia is that in World War I the Anglo-Saxons dragged us into the Entente against Germany. The trouble of Germany is that the Anglo-Saxons from defeated Germany blinded the anti-USSR and unleashed the Second World War with the Germans, where the Germans and Russians again killed each other, and the Anglo-Saxons again made their dirty money.

        Now the United States needs a new war to write off its astronomical debt, to extend the time of dying capitalism, this global financial pyramid that will crumble without another expansion of the base. The United States does not need NATO anymore, since no obligations are needed, no war is personally needed for the United States. War is needed in Europe, on the border with Russia. For this, cannon fodder from all sorts of sixes, such as the Baltic states, Psheks and Bandera, is perfect.

        We need an alliance with Germany, and Germany needs an alliance with Russia. Only in this way can the Germans get out of the actual occupation of the Anglo-Saxons, become independent, and Russia will also strengthen at the expense of Germany. Perhaps, ideally, the new authorities in Russia and Germany will create a new pole of socialism, without which we do not have a worthy future under the United States, in their world pole of capitalism.
        1. Same lech
          Same lech 18 November 2019 06: 42 New
          0
          Of course you beautifully set out ... but millions of Russian and non-Russian people in Russia died in the wars with the Germans ... this is already imprinted on the genetic level of the people and there are always suspicions that the Germans will go to war against us again.
          1. abc_alex
            abc_alex 18 November 2019 09: 47 New
            +2
            Quote: The same Lech
            millions of Russian and non-Russian people in Russia died in wars with the Germans ... it is already imprinted on the genetic level of the people and there are always suspicions that the Germans will go to war again on us.

            And how many Frenchmen died in wars with the Germans? Nothing, they live somehow in one EU.
            The Union of Continental Powers is a good scheme for sovereign Europe. After the collapse of the colonial system, the Germans have no fundamental reason for aggressive campaigns, and the strategic nuclear forces in Russia are not for parades.
            But this union will be opposed not only by the United States, but also by all their pocket lapdogs in Europe. Therefore, for the sake of it, it will be necessary to destroy not only NATO, HP and the EU ...
        2. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 18 November 2019 10: 49 New
          -1
          "We need an alliance with Germany, and Germany needs an alliance with Russia." ////
          ---
          Duc ... was already once. The union did not last long. Two years in total.
      5. Fikys
        Fikys 18 November 2019 09: 09 New
        0
        According to the officers who participated in the ATS exercises, if the war started, the only real allies of the USSR would be the Germans (GDR). “Different civilizations” did not bother them in this then.
      6. New Year day
        New Year day 18 November 2019 12: 48 New
        +1
        Quote: The same Lech
        too different worldviews of these countries ... different civilizations.


        This did not stop their young ladies becoming Russian princes
      7. yustas
        yustas 18 November 2019 16: 06 New
        +1
        In vain you have so much in common, we have a lot, but the fact that one people are told about another is another thing. You just don’t tell me that the Russians thump and don’t work, and the Germans, on the contrary, work and don’t thump ....
    3. knn54
      knn54 18 November 2019 07: 38 New
      0
      There was (in my opinion at the end of the 19th century / beginning of 20) the opus- "The Last Day of England."
      The author urged not to allow the union of the three powers-Germany, Russia and Japan. For the Anglo-Saxons could not cope with such a combined force.
    4. NF68
      NF68 18 November 2019 15: 26 New
      0
      Quote: andrewkor
      Alexander Noah voiced the long-standing nightmare of the Anglo-Saxons: any union between Germany and Russia! This union would really benefit Europe, not counting the islanders!


      What if France and Spain join this possible alliance?
  2. Fedorov
    Fedorov 18 November 2019 06: 14 New
    +2
    Is Europe starting to wake up?
    1. bessmertniy
      bessmertniy 18 November 2019 08: 50 New
      +1
      No, Europe continues to sleep. lol It's just a ghost walking on it. wassat
    2. NF68
      NF68 19 November 2019 16: 18 New
      0
      Quote: Fedorov
      Is Europe starting to wake up?


      In Europe, this process will continue for more than one year. And maybe more than one decade.
  3. 210ox
    210ox 18 November 2019 06: 14 New
    +3
    Is it true that the Amerzians already threw the Germans somewhere like frogs in Syria? For the fun of a brown bear? lol
  4. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 18 November 2019 06: 27 New
    +2
    Bang it, how to give a drink. Attacks the "sacred cow"! On the "union against Russia." On the main payer of the military-industrial complex of mattresses.
    1. den3080
      den3080 18 November 2019 06: 52 New
      +1
      Quote: stock buildbat
      Bang it, how to give a drink. Attacks the "sacred cow"! On the "union against Russia." On the main payer of the military-industrial complex of mattresses.

      Maybe he still got some ark for himself? And then yes, it speaks dangerously.
  5. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 18 November 2019 06: 55 New
    0
    German MP accuses US of decomposing NATO and adds that it welcomes this

    Let this opinion be only 0,14% of the total number of deputies (708), but the avalanche begins with a small pebble. It's nice that the spread of opinions in the EU gets voice acting at an ever higher level.
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    2. Mestny
      Mestny 18 November 2019 09: 20 New
      -5
      Does not start.
      No matter how the Communists tried at the beginning of the XNUMXth century to foment a revolution in other countries, nothing came of it. It turned out that this requires a special people, ready with rapture and a happy smile to cut the branch on which they are sitting.
  6. rocket757
    rocket757 18 November 2019 07: 16 New
    +1
    THE WORD IS SAID! Now they will spread the porridge on the walls! This is for a long time.
    1. novel66
      novel66 18 November 2019 07: 26 New
      +4
      oh, Vitya hi soon the fairy tale affects ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 18 November 2019 08: 53 New
        +1
        We are from those tales, neither here nor here.
  7. Evil 55
    Evil 55 18 November 2019 07: 40 New
    0
    With the Germans there was already a repeated historical experience of friendship ... And always, in any alliance, "someone" is trying to use "someone" in their interests ..
    1. bessmertniy
      bessmertniy 18 November 2019 08: 54 New
      -1
      God be with her friendship and love between our countries - what is in the past, what is in the future. We just need normal, sober relations - trade, cultural, sports, etc. hi
  8. 32363
    32363 18 November 2019 07: 51 New
    0
    Quote: The same Lech
    Juvenile and tolerance like AIDS corrodes the Germans from the inside ... I look at modern Germans and I can not find any resemblance to the Germans of the 40s ... damn what.

    most Germans are against all the same, for normal values.
    yesterday your KVN looked and went nuts, little by little topics about blue and they have already surfaced and continue to grow under the joyful clapping of the audience.
  9. Dikson
    Dikson 18 November 2019 08: 16 New
    0
    Yes, the Christmas trees are green .. It’s just that neither France nor Germany stupidly wants to pay a fee increased because of Trump for the Americans to “protect” them .... There is nothing else to say about it .. In Europe there is so much NATO infrastructure ...- where will they go from the USA ??! Erdogan won’t “quarrel” with the USA, but he is in no hurry to expel them from his country ..
  10. Boomandroid
    Boomandroid 18 November 2019 10: 10 New
    0
    Quote: The same Lech
    Juvenile and tolerance like AIDS corrodes the Germans from the inside ... I look at modern Germans and I can not find any resemblance to the Germans of the 40s ... damn what.

    I understand there when Brezhnev for the sake of politics kissed Honecker ... but here what?

    A Th for minus? Dude vs p .... moat? I'm afraid that VO (couch experts) became tolerant of them? To the answer. Below, yes, and we have a degradation, but at least I'm glad that they are not giving it a go!
  11. Klingon
    Klingon 18 November 2019 11: 31 New
    +1
    Quote: Tank Hard
    Quote: The same Lech
    Juvenile and tolerance like AIDS corrodes the Germans from the inside ... I look at modern Germans and I can not find any resemblance to the Germans of the 40s ... damn what.

    Certain forces have done a good job of this, now they are trying to "work" with Russia. A deputy of the State Duma of the Russian Federation, Oksana Pushkina, associates are trying to push into the country the law of the RLS (the law on domestic violence. The goals are supposedly good, but they know where. If they accept, Russia will quickly become a society like Germany. But they want thisabout:

    I join you drinks
    however, this is not welcomed among my acquaintances Germans and work colleagues
    1. Tank hard
      Tank hard 18 November 2019 20: 36 New
      +1
      Quote: Klingon
      I join you
      however, this is not welcomed among my acquaintances Germans and work colleagues

      It is necessary to drive these Oksan Pushkin comrades with a filthy broom, our children are our future, we must not allow them (vile radishes) to climb into our personal. drinks
  12. Archivist Vasya
    Archivist Vasya 18 November 2019 13: 33 New
    +1
    Alexander Noah, representative of the party that did not score 10%. And what, it didn’t make him retreat.
    As the saying goes: "Noah did not ache - and you are not (N / A) oh")))
  13. Politruk-m
    Politruk-m 18 November 2019 17: 13 New
    +4
    This Russia is ruining quietly "partners" .. And Donal Ivanovich, only helps us wink