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There was information about the concealment of war crimes by British soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan

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There was information about the concealment of war crimes by British soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan

The New Arab, citing The Sunday Times, writes that detectives in Britain have put together a package of evidence that senior British Defense officials have been hiding war crimes in Iraq and Afghanistan for years.


The material notes that we are talking about war crimes to which they were involved, including members of the elite special forces - SAS and Black Watch. In particular, the material refers to the establishment of falsification of documents in which intentional killings and torture in Afghanistan and Iraq were presented as special operations against terrorists.

From the material:

Detectives also revealed that military commanders falsified evidence in an attempt to hide such allegations. The commission of war crimes is an obvious fact, but at one time the case was not given a move due to overt pressure from the then Minister of Defense Michael Fallon. On his personal instructions, all cases on this subject were closed even before they could reach the court.

The material says that the evidence was blocked for political reasons.

It does not say who exactly instructed the detectives to collect a package of documents on the involvement of British troops in the commission of war crimes in the operation in Iraq and Afghanistan.

What crimes are we talking about?

Here are a few examples:

For some unknown reason, a British soldier shot an Iraqi policeman in Basra.

In 2012, a British commando shot and killed a man and three children point-blank in one of the households. Those at that moment were drinking tea.

Again 2003 year and again Basra - the British military abused the prisoners, two of whom were tortured to death.

The New Arab:

One of the investigators openly stated that the Ministry of Defense insisted on the closure of cases as soon as possible. And then it was announced at all that legislation could be revised in order to protect servicemen from such claims.

The publication notes that the evidence collected may reach the International Criminal Court.
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  1. Lannan Shi
    Lannan Shi 17 November 2019 18: 33 New
    +18
    The publication notes that the evidence collected may reach the International Criminal Court.

    Hardly reach. It has long been known that the gentleman west of Suez is not responsible for what the gentleman east of Suez does.
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 17 November 2019 18: 45 New
      +14
      Quote: Lannan Shi
      Hardly reach.

      I agree completely. They will smear their own. negative
      1. vovanpain
        vovanpain 17 November 2019 22: 27 New
        +10
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        Quote: Lannan Shi
        Hardly reach.

        I agree completely. They will smear their own. negative

        Will smear and reward yet. wink
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 17 November 2019 22: 50 New
          +8
          Quote: vovanpain
          will be awarded yet

          I won’t be surprised.
          Z.Y. Hello, Vlad ! soldier drinks
          1. vovanpain
            vovanpain 17 November 2019 22: 54 New
            +6
            Quote: bouncyhunter
            I won’t be surprised.

            I'm not surprised at anything in this world wink
            Quote: bouncyhunter
            Hello, Vlad !

            Hello, Brother! drinks drinks good
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 17 November 2019 23: 00 New
              +5
              Quote: vovanpain
              no wonder in this world

              I have long been convinced that the world is not only more amazing than we imagine. He is more amazing than we can imagine. yes
      2. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek 17 November 2019 23: 35 New
        +7
        but then we listen here in the comments "gentlemanly" sighs and condolences about the reports of the deaths of such kov !!! recourse recourse recourse there was recently that one of these scum fell out of the plane !!! wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing still found sympathizers !! fool fool lol lol lol the courts will not get to them, so let them fall out of planes more often !!! lol lol lol good good good good
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 17 November 2019 23: 38 New
          +8
          Quote: Nikolai Grek
          let it fall out of planes more often !!!

          Let it be so ! bully
          1. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 17 November 2019 23: 45 New
            +6
            Quote: bouncyhunter
            Quote: Nikolai Grek
            let it fall out of planes more often !!!

            Let it be so ! bully

            still, every case would be covered when they throw back hooves ... otherwise they rarely tell how all kinds of people fall out of windows in Turkey laughing laughing laughing , and conceal the bulk of such gorgeous information !!! negative
        2. militarist63
          militarist63 18 November 2019 00: 07 New
          +2
          soldier Amen !!!! ... yes yes good good good
    2. Dmitry Donskoy
      Dmitry Donskoy 17 November 2019 18: 48 New
      +7
      Britons haven't had gentlemen for a long time
      1. Lannan Shi
        Lannan Shi 17 November 2019 18: 56 New
        +1
        Quote: Dmitry Donskoy
        Britons haven't had gentlemen for a long time

        Fact. But responsible for "east of Suez", they still disagree. Yes, and for the "west", too.
        1. rich
          rich 17 November 2019 19: 38 New
          +7
          Great Britain has taken a course to withdraw its military from the operation of the "European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights since 2016
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 17 November 2019 20: 15 New
        +4
        Quote: Dmitry Donskoy
        Britons haven't had gentlemen for a long time

        No, these are gentlemen. And the people who paint you in the movies and in the media are all Anglo-Saxon fakes, but they are not gentlemen, but the most cruel in the world. And what in the 1838 year they did in Afghanistan, how many people killed.
        1. sniperino
          sniperino 18 November 2019 00: 21 New
          +1
          Quote: tihonmarine
          but they are not gentlemen, but the most cruel in the world
          Initially, the "gentleman" is a noble man. Then they bowed bows here: "balanced, law-abiding, educated", etc. Maternity implies innate superiority, therefore, does not prevent the Englishman from collecting scalps of rootless by his standards.
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 18 November 2019 09: 01 New
            +2
            Quote: sniperino
            Maternity suggests innate superiority

            And bestial gut.
            1. sniperino
              sniperino 18 November 2019 12: 56 New
              0
              Quote: tihonmarine
              And bestial gut.
              Or brought up megalomania. In any case, gentlemen are dangerous to society ...
        2. Perun Horch
          Perun Horch 18 November 2019 11: 06 New
          -6
          And in Afghanistan, how many USSR civilians exterminated? In two Chechen! Or only Russian gentlemen and do not kill anyone? This is war and it is inevitable, whether you are Russian or British
          1. sniperino
            sniperino 18 November 2019 13: 25 New
            0
            Quote: Perun Horch
            only Russian gentlemen and do not kill anyone?
            Of course! They practically did not remain in the country after the Civil War. Thus, in the early USSR, the remnants of the clan society — estates that divided the clans into the noble and the vile — were finished. This is bad? Although whom I ask ...
      3. tol100v
        tol100v 17 November 2019 20: 21 New
        +1
        Quote: Dmitry Donskoy
        Britons haven't had gentlemen for a long time

        There are only blatant Saxons!
      4. Nikolai Korovin
        Nikolai Korovin 17 November 2019 21: 57 New
        +1
        God save you! Yes, they are gentlemen. Not a single gentleman is available. "There is no talent in the area!"
      5. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek 17 November 2019 23: 37 New
        +5
        Quote: Dmitry Donskoy
        Britons haven't had gentlemen for a long time

        belay belay and they were ??? what wassat wassat wassat
      6. Tank jacket
        Tank jacket 18 November 2019 03: 21 New
        +5

        Here is a typical example of the behavior of Anglo-Saxons in a foreign country
        1. Perun Horch
          Perun Horch 18 November 2019 12: 49 New
          -7


          But has Russia always fought with clean hands?
          1. Tank jacket
            Tank jacket 18 November 2019 14: 28 New
            +3

            Such is the Anglo-Saxon Calvin Gibbs in Afghanistan ...
            US Army soldier who kept the teeth and bones of the fingers of killed Afghan citizens.
            1. Perun Horch
              Perun Horch 19 November 2019 21: 48 New
              -3
              Soviet soldiers are killing Afghans.
          2. Tank jacket
            Tank jacket 18 November 2019 14: 42 New
            +3

            And here is your compatriots relieve the need for those killed in Iraq ...
            1. Perun Horch
              Perun Horch 19 November 2019 21: 51 New
              -1
              The work of special forces. A shot Afghan family in the village of Garsalai (Kandahar, 1985). The photograph shows five corpses: three men, a woman and a girl. Judging by the location of the bodies, the woman tried to close the girl.
          3. sniperino
            sniperino 18 November 2019 15: 02 New
            +1
            The magazine "Peretz" in the Ukrainian SSR was wittier and even sharper than today's dull agitation.
            Such a degradation of the caricature, although they lick the elders ...
        2. Perun Horch
          Perun Horch 19 November 2019 21: 46 New
          -3
          during the December coup in Kabul, which lasted all night on December 27, 1979, some paratroopers shot unarmed people whom they saw on the streets - then without a shadow of regret they cheerfully recalled this as amusing cases ... "
    3. knn54
      knn54 17 November 2019 20: 03 New
      +3
      They came, and not only in relation to the British. And the Americans, too. And direct threats from the Anglo-Saxons forced the judges to retreat. Someone even resigned.
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      2. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter 17 November 2019 18: 58 New
        +11
        Dima, salute! hi
        Quote: Nyrobsky
        Have you fooled Blackwater?

        He has not beguiled, he purposefully stirs up water. yes
        Quote: Nyrobsky
        Killers and looters under the protection of the American femida.

        Perhaps this is the mildest of what I would like to say ...
        1. Jack O'Neill
          Jack O'Neill 17 November 2019 19: 01 New
          -13
          He has not beguiled, he purposefully stirs up water. yes

          You just didn’t see this video. I have seen.
          It's about these comrades.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 17 November 2019 19: 05 New
            +5
            Definitely the Russians. Highly Likely, they simply cannot be anything else. Indeed, on one of them the national Russian clothing is a vest. And for some reason it’s not Airborne or Marine. but purely marine, blue.
            1. Jack O'Neill
              Jack O'Neill 17 November 2019 19: 07 New
              -14
              Definitely the Russians. Highly Likely, they simply cannot be anything else. Indeed, on one of them the national Russian clothing is a vest. And for some reason it’s not Airborne or Marine. but purely marine, blue.

              You look at the beginning of the video. Russians are Russians. Everyone knows this very well. Vidos was hype!
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 17 November 2019 19: 08 New
                +4
                Quote: Jack O'Neill
                Russians are, Russians

                On what grounds did you determine this?
                1. Jack O'Neill
                  Jack O'Neill 17 November 2019 19: 08 New
                  -11
                  On what grounds did you determine this?

                  Watch the vidos and understand for yourself.
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 17 November 2019 19: 12 New
                    +7
                    That is, you yourself do not know, but it’s for sure Russian and certainly from PMCs. Highly Likely, they simply cannot be anything else.
                    Accepted.
                    1. Jack O'Neill
                      Jack O'Neill 17 November 2019 19: 15 New
                      -10
                      That is, you yourself do not know, but it’s for sure Russian and certainly from PMCs. Highly Likely, they simply cannot be anything else.
                      Accepted.

                      I know why the Russians are on that video since I saw this video. But you have not seen anything, but you are asserting something. It's funny ...
                      1. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 17 November 2019 19: 20 New
                        +5
                        Quote: Jack O'Neill
                        I know why the Russians are on that video since I saw this video.

                        They showed their passports?
                      2. taiga2018
                        taiga2018 17 November 2019 19: 29 New
                        +5
                        Quote: Jack O'Neill
                        Funny ...

                        That is, they cannot be citizens of other states that simply speak Russian ...
                      3. Jack O'Neill
                        Jack O'Neill 17 November 2019 20: 10 New
                        -12
                        That is, they cannot be citizens of other states that simply speak Russian ...

                        They can. But this is provided that the citizenship of another country was obtained after a very, very long time living in Russia.
                      4. taiga2018
                        taiga2018 17 November 2019 20: 22 New
                        +6
                        Quote: Jack O'Neill
                        how very, very long lived in Russia.

                        Well, they could live long and very long in Ukraine, be citizens of this country and be hired to participate in a provocation ...
                      5. Jack O'Neill
                        Jack O'Neill 17 November 2019 20: 24 New
                        -14
                        Well, they could live long and very long in Ukraine, be citizens of this country and be hired to participate in the provocation ..

                        Then there would be an emphasis, but it is not, pure Russian on the vidos, without an accent.
                      6. GABALIS
                        GABALIS 17 November 2019 21: 08 New
                        +7
                        In the video, dill accent, the network has already dismantled this creation ...
                        But Jack used to gentlemen to take a word!
                        And another question pure Russian without an accent is how?
                      7. Jack O'Neill
                        Jack O'Neill 17 November 2019 22: 05 New
                        -9
                        In the video, dill accent, the network has already dismantled this creation ...

                        There is no Ukrainian accent there.
                        Yes, and a link to the "analysis" could be attached. All the same, I want to figure it out myself.
                        And I don’t believe the word, I believe what I hear on the video.
                        Without an accent, it means pure language.
                        For example (Russian) - "buy tomatoes"
                        Russian with an accent - Wah, listen, kupi pamidora daraga!
                      8. GABALIS
                        GABALIS 17 November 2019 23: 17 New
                        +1
                        It’s clear with the accent .... :)
                        Google link to help, in particular, was in the group "war in Syria VK" until some "johnny" hit it :)
                  2. Geo⁣
                    Geo⁣ 17 November 2019 23: 15 New
                    +5
                    Quote: Jack O'Neill
                    the emphasis would be

                    Poroshenko without emphasis in Russian "razmovil". For instance.
                  3. Jack O'Neill
                    Jack O'Neill 18 November 2019 08: 26 New
                    -3
                    Poroshenko without emphasis in Russian "razmovil". For instance.

                    "sho" "mo" slip through, so there is an emphasis.
                    I don’t understand why it’s so hard to believe that ours are capable of this? 2-I Chechen, for example, there was also enough tin.
                  4. Geo⁣
                    Geo⁣ 18 November 2019 19: 00 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Jack O'Neill

                    "sho" "mo" slip through

                    On such short and unpretentious intervals? Yes, if not from the first take? Yes, if you try? Absolutely an option.
                    I don’t understand why you really want to bind what exactly to Russians? It looks very stupid. Everyone understands - this is the job. But you can’t do your work so late, right?
                  5. Jack O'Neill
                    Jack O'Neill 19 November 2019 06: 14 New
                    -2
                    On such short and unpretentious intervals? Yes, if not from the first take? Yes, if you try? Absolutely an option.
                    I don’t understand why you really want to bind what exactly to Russians? It looks very stupid. Everyone understands - this is the job. But you can’t do your work so late, right?

                    I do not impose anything on anyone. I know very well the people with whom I live in the same country. And these people are not that different from other people.
                    For me it doesn’t matter whether the American cut his head or Russian. I understand perfectly well that people in wars have a roof going, for any nationality. The psyche ...
                    So it’s not difficult for me to believe that ours did it, and the vidos confirms this. If there is a revelation of this video, okay, I’m all for it. But I saw what I saw and heard.
                    In response, only "the Russians can’t do it because the Russians are."
                    Our homeless kids set fire to fun for the sake of.) What do you think, how will the war affect the psyche of such people?
                    And yes, there are such people in the States too, I have no doubt at all!
  • Pivot
    Pivot 17 November 2019 20: 23 New
    +6
    And what does it mean PMCs, it's about the elite units of the United Kingdom Defense Ministry, so to speak, civil servants, they flag their state’s flag with their actions, and what you sent so that two Russian-speakers, well, the linguist worked with them, but why is it Wagner I can’t imagine, they can also work in any foreign PMC
    1. Jack O'Neill
      Jack O'Neill 18 November 2019 08: 28 New
      -5
      And what does it mean PMCs, it's about the elite units of the United Kingdom Defense Ministry, so to speak, civil servants, they flag their state’s flag with their actions, and what you sent so that two Russian-speakers, well, the linguist worked with them, but why is it Wagner I can’t imagine, they can also work in any foreign PMC

      This is because it is so violet under what flag a person is, and it doesn’t matter whether he is a soldier or not PMC’s. All people are the same.
      But I was still surprised, and I saw the vidos only yesterday, so I wrote about it here, as in the subject.
      1. Pivot
        Pivot 18 November 2019 08: 59 New
        +1
        The difference is huge, between a military man and a PMC.
        1. Jack O'Neill
          Jack O'Neill 18 November 2019 09: 04 New
          -4
          The difference is huge, between a military man and a PMC.

          The difference is that one officially works for the state, and the other for a private company. Both do what they are ordered to.
          1. Pivot
            Pivot 18 November 2019 09: 06 New
            +1
            Well, according to your logic, PMC is not different from an employee of the Ministry of Emergency Situations, and they both carry out orders, only fundamentally different.
            1. Jack O'Neill
              Jack O'Neill 18 November 2019 09: 49 New
              -3
              Well, according to your logic, PMC is not different from an employee of the Ministry of Emergency Situations, and they both carry out orders, only fundamentally different.

              No, there are differences. PMC, still a military company!
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  • tol100v
    tol100v 17 November 2019 20: 23 New
    +1
    Quote: bouncyhunter
    Perhaps this is the mildest of what I would like to say ...

    And better to do it!
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 17 November 2019 23: 41 New
      +6
      hi
      Quote: Tol100v
      And better to do it!

      If the Motherland orders, I will. wink
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 17 November 2019 20: 54 New
    0
    Quote: Nyrobsky
    Have you fooled Blackwater?

    For 10 years it has not been there, everything has been renamed, resold.
  • Ural-4320
    Ural-4320 17 November 2019 18: 50 New
    +3
    I also wanted to write about this video. The speech is very modern. The phrase "this is my topic" is in use for ten years or less. They used to say "it is for me," "I like it," "I trudge on it."
    I don’t know what needs to be done in a person’s head in order to do this, no matter what nationality he is.
    But after all, these people will be judged by all Russians.
    1. ltc35
      ltc35 17 November 2019 19: 00 New
      +2
      It seems to me that it was a provocation. Anglo-Saxons like to vidosikami sin. White tales are an example!
      1. Ural-4320
        Ural-4320 17 November 2019 19: 12 New
        +1
        I am always skeptical of such a video, and therefore began to listen to the conversation. As far as I understand in dialect, these are Russians. And the language is modern colloquial. No accent is heard. Whether they are ours or foreign ones is a question, but the fact that they lived for more than one year in Russia is a fact. I repeat: there is no accent, everyday language is spoken, not slang.
        1. Jack O'Neill
          Jack O'Neill 21 November 2019 12: 17 New
          -2
          One man was found. Stasik call.

          1. Ural-4320
            Ural-4320 21 November 2019 12: 37 New
            0
            FMS stamp. It turns out was a citizen of another state?
            1. Jack O'Neill
              Jack O'Neill 21 November 2019 13: 20 New
              -2
              FMS stamp. It turns out was a citizen of another state?

              I don’t know that.
              It remains to wait until they find others.
      2. RADIOACTIVE
        RADIOACTIVE 17 November 2019 19: 29 New
        +2
        100% percent of the fake video, we also recently launched on vatsap and in the VK groups videos like the mother of a 2-year-old child stomping feet, and to distribute that they would look for this woman in city No., and in VK groups it was later denied by the police in Tatarstan that the video is face and filmed it generally in the USA state of Texas
        1. Ural-4320
          Ural-4320 17 November 2019 19: 44 New
          -2
          I really want all this to turn out to be untrue, and the actors paid. But after such photos, there is no faith in decency in the war, regardless of nationality.
    2. Jack O'Neill
      Jack O'Neill 17 November 2019 19: 04 New
      -14
      I also wanted to write about this video. The speech is very modern. The phrase "this is my topic" is in use for ten years or less. They used to say "it is for me," "I like it," "I trudge on it."
      I don’t know what needs to be done in a person’s head in order to do this, no matter what nationality he is.
      But after all, these people will be judged by all Russians.

      Have you seen all the videos?
      Horror of course ...
      1. Ural-4320
        Ural-4320 17 November 2019 19: 17 New
        +2
        The headless body, severed hands to the elbow, suspended by the legs, doused with flammable liquid, then set on fire, then added more. All this against the background of conversations, the sound is transmitted adequately to the situation, one records (it is not in the frame), the other with the camera does not even hide its face.
        This is what I saw.
        1. Jack O'Neill
          Jack O'Neill 17 November 2019 19: 19 New
          -10
          The headless body, severed hands to the elbow, suspended by the legs, doused with flammable liquid, then set on fire, then added more. All this against the background of conversations, the sound is transmitted adequately to the situation, one records (it is not in the frame), the other with the camera does not even hide its face.
          This is what I saw.

          Yes, I'm talking about this video. Tin.
      2. Geo⁣
        Geo⁣ 17 November 2019 23: 19 New
        +3
        Quote: Jack O'Neill
        Horror of course ...

        I’ll tell you more: these people have been shooting for many years in a row from what came to be peaceful areas with peaceful people in the Donbass. There is generally a tragedy
        1. Jack O'Neill
          Jack O'Neill 18 November 2019 08: 29 New
          -3
          I’ll tell you more: these people have been shooting for many years in a row from what came to be peaceful areas with peaceful people in the Donbass. There is generally a tragedy

          But the vidos where Ukrainians do so, I have not seen.
  • Lopatov
    Lopatov 17 November 2019 18: 55 New
    +8
    Quote: Jack O'Neill
    At Dvach, several vidos were laid out with our guys from Wagner.

    Video from the white helmets?
    Well, yes, these will not lie.
    1. Jack O'Neill
      Jack O'Neill 17 November 2019 18: 57 New
      -13
      Video from the white helmets?
      Well, yes, these will not lie.

      Unfortunately, the videos were shot by ours.
      I can throw the link in PM.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 17 November 2019 18: 59 New
        +7
        Quote: Jack O'Neill
        Unfortunately, the videos were shot by ours.
        I can throw the link in PM.

        Are yours Americans? Quite possible.

        But in the masochism of PMC employees who remove torture in order to set themselves up, I’m not at all sure ...
        Especially after a lot of dramatization from Western intelligence agencies.
        1. Jack O'Neill
          Jack O'Neill 17 November 2019 19: 02 New
          -12
          Are yours Americans? Quite possible.

          But in the masochism of PMC employees who remove torture in order to set themselves up, I’m not at all sure ...
          Especially after a lot of dramatization from Western intelligence agencies.

          To you to throw off the link in a personal? See for yourself ...
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 17 November 2019 19: 07 New
            +7
            Quote: Jack O'Neill
            To you to throw off the link in a personal?

            You have already begun to directly distribute fakes, the authorities do not appreciate it at all?
            1. Jack O'Neill
              Jack O'Neill 17 November 2019 19: 08 New
              -13
              You have already begun to directly distribute fakes, the authorities do not appreciate it at all?

              You don’t even know what to write about. You didn’t see anything.
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 17 November 2019 19: 11 New
                +8
                Am I obligated to look through all the fakes? There are too many Syrian Hollywood stamped.
                You just are not trying to shove this bullshit.
                1. Jack O'Neill
                  Jack O'Neill 17 November 2019 19: 13 New
                  -13
                  Am I obligated to look through all the fakes? There are too many Syrian Hollywood stamped.
                  You just are not trying to shove this bullshit.

                  How can you call something "fake" without even knowing what? Your logic is just awful.
                  Do not want to - do not look, I do not force you.
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 17 November 2019 19: 19 New
                    +7
                    Quote: Jack O'Neill
                    Your logic is just awful.

                    I have it normal. A person will not collect evidence of a crime on himself.

                    But here it is definitely strange for you. At the level of "I can’t explain why, but it’s for sure Russian., And for sure from Wagner. And why? And why?"


                    Quote: Jack O'Neill
                    Do not want to - do not look, I do not force you.

                    You are just so persistent that the question arises: are you not getting a bonus for every view.
                    1. Jack O'Neill
                      Jack O'Neill 17 November 2019 19: 22 New
                      -11
                      I have it normal. A person will not collect evidence of a crime on himself.

                      Yeah, it’s unlikely that they’ve only shot this video for YouTube.

                      But here it is definitely strange for you. At the level of "I can’t explain why, but it’s for sure Russian., And for sure from Wagner. And why? And why?"

                      I can explain. In conversation, emphasis and manner of conversation - these are Russians. Every day I hear such a speech!
                      But for you, all the fakes ...

                      You are just so persistent that the question arises: are you not getting a bonus for every view.

                      How can I get a bonus for watching a vidos on dvah? Tell me, I can earn some extra money.
                    2. Lopatov
                      Lopatov 17 November 2019 19: 28 New
                      +8
                      Quote: Jack O'Neill
                      Yeah, it’s unlikely that they’ve only shot this video for YouTube.

                      Well yes. They filmed this for investigators.
                      Damn, I just participated in the war, and didn’t even like to take pictures, so that there wouldn’t be any extra questions.
                      And here you are trying to tell me a fairy tale that someone is substituting himself by video recording of a crime.

                      Quote: Jack O'Neill
                      I can explain. By conversation, emphasis and manner of speaking

                      Nonsense full.

                      Quote: Jack O'Neill
                      How can I get a bonus for watching a vidos on dvah?

                      You need to ask this.
          2. Ural-4320
            Ural-4320 17 November 2019 19: 21 New
            -1
            It’s not for us to decide whether this is crap or not, but for our bodies this video should be a “magic pendell” for clarifying the truth.
            If this is ours, then my "braces" will be significantly shaken.
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 17 November 2019 19: 22 New
              +5
              Quote: Ural-4320
              Is it not for us to decide whether it is crap or not

              Lazha.
              If they do such things, then quietly, and without any video.
              1. Ural-4320
                Ural-4320 17 November 2019 19: 25 New
                -2
                Well, a classmate from Chechnya also showed a lot of "interesting" things. But, to be honest, these were shots from the battlefield, not camera poses.
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 17 November 2019 19: 31 New
                  +5
                  Quote: Ural-4320
                  But, to be honest, these were shots from the battlefield

                  When did he manage to? Even in the Second, it was very rare that a cell phone was without any cameras.
                  1. Ural-4320
                    Ural-4320 17 November 2019 19: 35 New
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                    And I do not know what they wrote down, but I saw. I saw the results of the attack on the military unit in Nalchik in the form of a photo.
                  2. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 17 November 2019 19: 38 New
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                    Quote: Ural-4320
                    I saw the results of the attack on the military unit in Nalchik in the form of a photo

                    The rear ...
                    Here is a specific case, they brought three corpses for an exchange, they put it, in the morning one of them has no ears. Started to search. Drove from the "convoy" cut.
                    Seized the noble from intelligence. They don’t need it. Obozu- a completely different matter.
                  3. Ural-4320
                    Ural-4320 17 November 2019 19: 47 New
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                    What kind of jelly should be in the brain in order to chop off a piece of the body from a person's memory?
                  4. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 17 November 2019 20: 27 New
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                    Quote: Ural-4320
                    What kind of jelly should be in the brain in order to chop off a piece of the body from a person's memory?

                    You will laugh, Hollywood. "Universal Soldier"
                    I was operative in artillery when this fighter was being deputy commander of the regiment, along with the battalion deputy political commander. So first-hand ...
                  5. frog
                    frog 17 November 2019 23: 11 New
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                    Sorry, you just offered to watch a movie where everything happens much more ..... And now you are wondering if the person who cut off the ears of a corpse is normal? Kind of weird....
                    As for the kin and other things, they can draw anything and professionally impose a record and anything. In war, people have a roof, it’s not Big and not the Mariinsky, alas .... And even in conditions of “local plastic contact” - and even more so. The only thing is, I wouldn’t sculpt on myself evidence, here the comrade is right. On the other hand, now there is a breakthrough of frank criminal videos on the network, which participants (not all) are proud of. It is clear that, in the main, brainless youngsters, but all the same ..... But to wind up decent articles like this yourself ...... You have to stay completely without a tower.
                  6. Jack O'Neill
                    Jack O'Neill 18 November 2019 00: 01 New
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                    . But to wind decent such articles on yourself ...... You have to stay completely without a tower.

                    Remember the cops who put a man on a bottle under the cameras of his squad.
                  7. frog
                    frog 18 November 2019 00: 04 New
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                    What about towers?
                  8. Jack O'Neill
                    Jack O'Neill 18 November 2019 00: 11 New
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                    What about towers?

                    I do not understand the question.
                  9. frog
                    frog 18 November 2019 00: 38 New
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                    What is incomprehensible here? If you are talking about ours, sorry, constables and everything that happens in their department, so almost everyone lost there long ago, including the towers. The stump was shining, not everywhere and not all, but very, very many .... And if you believe that the discovery of the fact that the memorable OP Dalniy was a press hut, in fact, greatly surprised someone in this city - then this is not so. Moreover, quite))))
                  10. Jack O'Neill
                    Jack O'Neill 18 November 2019 08: 34 New
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                    And what is incomprehensible here? If you are talking about ours, sorry, constables and everything that is happening in their department, so almost everything was lost there long ago, including the towers.

                    Ahh, you're talking about "brains", i.e. - the "roof"?)

                    The stump was shining, not everywhere and not all, but very, very many .... And if you believe that the discovery of the fact that the memorable OP Dalniy was a press hut, in fact, really surprised someone in this city - then this is not so. Moreover, quite))))

                    I mean, if people have cruelty towards their fellow citizens, then what can we say not about their fellow citizens?
                  11. frog
                    frog 19 November 2019 08: 32 New
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                    Chu, dear, but I thought ..... Sorry, of course, but you didn’t get anywhere. Tolstoy's ideas are somewhat ..... not in fashion. You want to say that there are countries where there are no cruel? To their fellow citizens? So name at least one, personally it will be very interesting to me .... But I want to say right away that about the so-called countries I know enough of the "golden billion" and not only from the media. So, just in case .....
                    Thugs are everywhere, and, unfortunately, will be. The only question is what and how concrete society does with them. And how and who about this, sorry, tryndit, may the moderators forgive me.
                  12. Jack O'Neill
                    Jack O'Neill 19 November 2019 13: 12 New
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                    You want to say that there are countries where there are no cruel? To their fellow citizens?

                    Of course not. This is everywhere, such is the nature of man.
                    But let us be realistic that the compatriot is nevertheless closer than not the compatriot. ) Simply put: breaking someone else's toy is easier than yours.)

                    Thugs are everywhere, and, unfortunately, will be. The only question is what and how concrete society does with them. And how and who about this, sorry, tryndit, may the moderators forgive me.

                    You have written correctly!

                    I will quote myself:
                    I do not impose anything on anyone. I know very well the people with whom I live in the same country. And these people are not that different from other people.
                    For me it doesn’t matter whether the American cut his head or Russian. I understand perfectly well that people in wars have a roof going, for any nationality. The psyche ...
                    So it’s not difficult for me to believe that ours did it, and the vidos confirms this. If there is a revelation of this video, okay, I’m all for it. But I saw what I saw and heard.
                    In response, only "the Russians can’t do it because the Russians are."
                    Our homeless kids set fire to fun for the sake of.) What do you think, how will the war affect the psyche of such people?
                    And yes, there are such people in the States too, I have no doubt at all!
                  13. frog
                    frog 19 November 2019 14: 52 New
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                    Only one moment.
                    But let us be realistic that the compatriot is nevertheless closer than not the compatriot. ) Simply put: breaking someone else's toy is easier than yours.)

                    Sorry, if your - .... mmm .... "radish"?
                    The problem, generally speaking, is not murder per se. Because any soldier is a de facto killer in the service of the state. Yes, with certain factors, but a killer. But it is necessary to kill, albeit with a clumsy phrase, "according to the case", and not for pleasure. And do not put these things on the net, cowering in the whole world. In this place, our .... compatriots have fully established themselves. Both adults and not very. And here we have some, all Ukrainians care about ......
                  14. Jack O'Neill
                    Jack O'Neill 19 November 2019 15: 03 New
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                    Sorry, if your - .... mmm .... "radish"?
                    The problem, generally speaking, is not murder per se. Because any soldier is a de facto killer in the service of the state. Yes, with certain factors, but a killer. But it is necessary to kill, albeit with a clumsy phrase, "according to the case", and not for pleasure. And do not put these things on the net, cowering in the whole world. In this place, our .... compatriots have fully established themselves. Both adults and not very. And here we have some, all Ukrainians care about ......

                    Yes, Ukrainians are always and everywhere to blame.)
                    Yes, it’s one thing to kill, and another to torment, and then still mock the body.
                  15. frog
                    frog 19 November 2019 15: 17 New
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                    In-in, and then also put it on the Web ..... By the way, unfortunately, it is a common phenomenon.
                    Summarizing the speech, I can say precisely about the vidosik that the matter is clear, that the matter is dark. If linden, then quality and on time. If not, it’s completely sad .....
                  16. Jack O'Neill
                    Jack O'Neill 19 November 2019 21: 36 New
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                    In-in, and then also put it on the Web ..... By the way, unfortunately, it is a common phenomenon.
                    Summarizing the speech, I can say precisely about the vidosik that the matter is clear, that the matter is dark. If linden, then quality and on time. If not, it’s completely sad .....

                    Even before that, there was a vidos where they beat him with a sledgehammer. Celik type igilovets, then we clapped in our boats, saying that the norms. By the way, everyone did not care that it was a “Wagner”. Nobody knew what eventually became.
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  • The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 17 November 2019 19: 34 New
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    I saw these videos. But I think our bodies will organically explain everything and will be able to "prove" that the Cossacks were mishandled, and in general ours were not there at that time, and a provocation of pure water. I can agree with one. The laws even crossed the war.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 17 November 2019 19: 40 New
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      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      But I think our bodies

      Let your organs be dismantled using your Red Cross soldiers as cover for military vehicles. And ambulances for the transportation of ammunition.
  • Jack O'Neill
    Jack O'Neill 18 November 2019 00: 02 New
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    It’s not for us to decide whether this is crap or not, but for our bodies this video should be a “magic pendell” for clarifying the truth.
    If this is ours, then my "braces" will be significantly shaken.


    In the form which is to the left.
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  • tol100v
    tol100v 17 November 2019 20: 32 New
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    Quote: Spade
    Are yours Americans? Quite possible.

    Such a bowel movement will start, and let's advertise white-handed Hollywood!
    1. Evil echo
      Evil echo 17 November 2019 22: 15 New
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      No, it’s just an attempt to shift the discussion from the Naglo-Saxons to “ours”. After reading the comments, I began to forget what the article was about.
  • sergo1914
    sergo1914 17 November 2019 20: 01 New
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    Quote: Jack O'Neill
    At Dvach, several vidos were laid out with our guys from Wagner.
    Everyone remembers how a barmaley beat with a sledgehammer? So, then they did with the body what the Arabs do ...
    So war criminals are everywhere.


    Man, I hope you are 8-9 years old and you will be smarter.
    1. xax
      xax 17 November 2019 23: 43 New
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      Quote: sergo1914
      Man, I hope you are 8-9 years old and you will be smarter.

      His task is to stir up the topic of the crimes of his masters. Have you seen what its owners are doing with those who did not please them? So, his servility can be understood, forgiven - not.
      He is trying to achieve his goals with this fake video. At the same time he hopes to denigrate ours.
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  • Saboteur Holuy
    Saboteur Holuy 17 November 2019 19: 09 New
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    The shape of the shaves is comfortable, the pockets are most importantly large!
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  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 17 November 2019 19: 12 New
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    No wonder they say that the Anglo-Saxons are a very scary diagnosis of mental disability. ..
    1. Perun Horch
      Perun Horch 20 November 2019 08: 57 New
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      What then happens to Russia? Silently close our eyes to the flaws and poke at strangers?
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  • for
    for 17 November 2019 19: 33 New
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    Quote: Spade
    pure sea, blue

    Are you sure. It is so dark blue that the eye is barely distinguishable from black. And the strips on the eye in the photo are wider.
  • Aliken
    Aliken 17 November 2019 19: 40 New
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    Great Britain in all its glory.
  • L-39NG
    L-39NG 17 November 2019 20: 20 New
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    "The New Arab edition, referring to The Sunday Times, may there be a link to the yellow Chinese media, I mean the yellow press, they write that detectives in Britain have collected a package of evidence that senior British Defense Ministry officials have been hiding for years by the military military crimes in Iraq and Afghanistan. " If this is true, then there will be hype. Officials will retire, if not true, then someone, someone, will pay a lot.
  • Chaldon48
    Chaldon48 18 November 2019 04: 38 New
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    But constantly from Britain and the USA there are hints about a possible clash with Russia. I can imagine how these warriors will behave breaking into a village. However, examples of their behavior are known, for example, in Vladivostok and generally everywhere where they felt at least for some time as complete masters.
    1. Doliva63
      Doliva63 18 November 2019 17: 52 New
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      Quote: Chaldon48
      But constantly from Britain and the USA there are hints about a possible clash with Russia. I can imagine how these warriors will behave breaking into a village. However, examples of their behavior are known, for example, in Vladivostok and generally everywhere where they felt at least for some time as complete masters.

      For example, Songmi, Vietnam.
  • Jarserge
    Jarserge 19 November 2019 07: 54 New
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    British colonialists are in their blood
    1. Perun Horch
      Perun Horch 20 November 2019 09: 00 New
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      Russia is the best country! The country of great spirituality and bondage! In Russia, not only war crimes have been committed, and ordinary, there is no corruption !!! And all because the Russians are highly spiritual-educated people! And only they have the right to look down upon other nationalities!
      1. Jarserge
        Jarserge 22 November 2019 12: 08 New
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        Well, do not distort the dear Horch. In the history of Russia, anything happened, because thanks to England, our country had to fight almost constantly, and people are fighting, and they are all sorts. That's just the fundamental difference from the "enlightened" West. Russia has never put war crimes in the rank of state policy (remember the concentration camps during the Boer War, the concentration camps during the invasion of the brazen people in Russia, and what happened in India and Afghanistan ... .) As for the crimes, war crimes committed by the soldiers of the Red Army, the Soviet Army, they received real terms for this. Which, alas, is neither in the English nor in the American army, they will threaten with a finger. All the rest of your arguments are just fake .... and resentful pride ...