In Poland: Macron felt that he could become Napoleon

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The Polish press sharply criticized Emmanuel Macron, who recently made several statements resonant for Europe. Recall that, meeting with Vladimir Putin, the French President noted the importance of dialogue with Moscow to create a single space of economy and security from Lisbon to Vladivostok. Recently, Macron announced the "death of NATO's brain" and the loss of American interest in European allies.

Today in Paris recognized the success of the Russian Federation in the rejection of the American dollar in the structure of the economy.



In the liberal Polish press, all these words of the French president were criticized. So, in the publication “Gazeta Wyborcza” an article was published by Bartosz Wilinsky, in which he states literally the following:

Macron felt that he could become Napoleon.

The author recalls the warming of relations between Moscow and Paris. As an example, the idea of ​​creating a kind of joint security council is given, in which the defense ministers of Russia and France, as well as representatives of the foreign affairs agencies of the two countries will work.

However, it is not entirely clear how the “opportunity to become Napoleon”, in the Polish sense, fits in with the relative warming of relations between Paris and Moscow (at least in rhetoric).

Polish experts note that Macron "demonstrates a reversal, or at least an attempt to reverse, in foreign policy":

He increasingly criticizes the United States and speaks more and more about the need for cooperation with the Russian Federation.

Poland does not hide the fact that this approach of France “scares Warsaw”, which continues to position Russia as a “potential aggressor” and carry out various kinds of demarches. One example of such a demarche is the stated refusal to renew the contract with Gazprom.

At the same time, Polish experts, who are pragmatic, note that Macron can be criticized as much as you want, as well as as many as you try to “bury the ground” with the Russian Federation, but France needs to learn pragmatism based on work to protect national interests. And among these interests there is no one that would lead to a conflict with Moscow.
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    1. +18
      17 November 2019 14: 04
      "Macron felt he could become Napoleon."
      So he can then afford a U-turn in foreign policy,
      unlike Polish experts.
      1. +7
        17 November 2019 14: 31
        French President noted the importance of dialogue with Moscow to create a single space of economy and security from Lisbon to Vladivostok. Recently, Macron announced the "death of NATO's brain" and

        Something has changed in the world, clearly in favor of Russia, men and even Benny sided with the Russian hehe
        No wonder "our liberals" shouted down with "Putin's regime" .. Do they feel that the freebie is running out? And you will have to be responsible for EVERYTHING! negative
        1. -4
          17 November 2019 15: 05
          Quote: Provincial-M
          They feel that the freebie ends? And you have to answer for EVERYTHING!

          Are you talking about the current government?
          1. -10
            17 November 2019 15: 10
            Quote: Provincial-M
            They feel that the freebie ends? And you have to answer for EVERYTHING!

            Yes NICHRENA !!!
            Even Lavrenty Pavlovich, acting in tandem with Joseph Vissarionovich, could not bring the freeloaders. The same Zhukov, Marshal of Victory, drove the goods with echelons. Like Menshikov, at one time.
            sad
            1. +10
              17 November 2019 15: 49
              Quote: Shurik70
              The same Zhukov, Marshal of Victory, drove the goods with echelons.

              Even have a list of exported? Or is it the information of those who secured their situation by removing Zhukov with these arguments? Then read about the top of the GSVG, how they exported and what during the deployment of troops ...
              We are talking about Macron, who can only be trusted if the sanctions against Russia are lifted and the construction of helicopter carriers is resumed.
              As for the liberals
              Quote: Provincial-M
              No wonder "our liberals" shouted down with "Putin's regime" .. Do they feel that the freebie is running out? And you will have to be responsible for EVERYTHING!

              Uncle! The first liberal was the HMS, the second was the EBN, the third was the GDP, which in Russia proclaimed the construction of a liberal market economy. Who is there and with what answer? Will they throw acorns?
              You do not sit on the site, but leave the house, see how Medvedev traveled to Novosibirsk, take a look at how Lavrov promised to cooperate with any government in Bolivia ...
              The real rating of the government forces it to think over a regime of quiet and quick withdrawal, in which case Trump and Macron are much more attractive than kefir and pasta ...
            2. +9
              17 November 2019 16: 00
              Quote: Shurik70
              Even Lavrenty Pavlovich, acting in tandem with Joseph Vissarionovich, could not bring the freeloaders. The same Zhukov, Marshal of Victory, drove the goods with echelons. Like Menshikov, at one time.

              But the Jews from the Tashkent front began to return to Moscow and other political departments .. Our front-line soldiers came demobilized .. And there everything was busy with signs on the offices in the Kremlin hehe Well, the backs were scratched and they went to rebuild the country with simple workers and died of wounds in hard work. there were screams in the newspapers as we quickly restore everything ..
              Stalin tried to fight cosmopolitanism, but suddenly died unexpectedly .. hi
            3. +10
              17 November 2019 16: 11
              Quote: Shurik70
              The same Zhukov, Marshal of Victory, drove the goods with echelons.

              Even if it was, Zhukov was taken out of a defeated country, and today's ones are taken out of his own country.
              1. +1
                17 November 2019 17: 17
                Quote: RUSS
                Even if it was, Zhukov was taken out of a defeated country, and today's ones are taken out of his own country.

                Then we won in 1945 year ..........
          2. +3
            17 November 2019 15: 51
            Quote: RUSS
            Quote: Provincial-M
            They feel that the freebie ends? And you have to answer for EVERYTHING!

            Are you talking about the current government?

            I'm talking about neolibers like you hehe
            1. -2
              17 November 2019 16: 13
              Quote: Provincial-M
              I'm talking about neolibers

              What are a couple of surnames?
              Quote: Provincial-M
              such as you hehe

              How quickly did you enroll me in neoliberals, who are they even?))
              1. +1
                17 November 2019 17: 39
                Quote: RUSS
                How quickly did you enroll me in neoliberals, who are they even?))

                Well, it's better to make a mistake. Than trust hehe hi lol
                1. -1
                  17 November 2019 19: 12
                  Quote: Provincial-M
                  Well, it's better to make a mistake

                  It is unlikely that you are mistaken ... feel
              2. +2
                17 November 2019 19: 11
                Quote: RUSS
                What are a couple of surnames?

                Name yours, enough for a start. wink
                Quote: RUSS
                How quickly did you enroll me in neoliberals, who are they even?)

                Like you, that's enough. It is enough to carefully analyze your comments on VO, having read them. wink I especially delivered your comment, where you compare Russia (today) with the Third Reich, you are our patriotic ... lol
                1. -7
                  17 November 2019 20: 01
                  Quote: Tank Hard
                  I especially delivered your comment, where you compare Russia (today) with the Third Reich, you are our patriotic ...

                  I repeat that some parallels can be drawn.
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        2. +5
          17 November 2019 15: 06
          Quote: Provincial-M
          Something has changed in the world, clearly in favor of Russia, men and even Benny sided with the Russian hehe

          Vitaly, stop talking nonsense. I repeat, "Bekal" is a "non grata" figure for Russia and, in principle, a firing squad, but what he said to the correspondent is pure trolling of both the West and Russia.
          1. +3
            17 November 2019 16: 06
            Quote: Lelek
            Vitaly, stop carrying nonsense.

            Well, how can I say, because I represent certain sections of society in Russia! What are you gagging me here he he he
            Benya will be hanged in Kiev, as well as other bloody Bandera ..
            Is anyone against this? Answer me ..
            1. +2
              17 November 2019 18: 22
              The certain sections of society that Vitala (aka Mikhan, aka Special Department, aka Starper, etc.) represents, build roads in Russia, but they are not at all road workers. They are the misfortune of Russia. Hehe! laughing
              1. 0
                17 November 2019 19: 00
                In vain you, gentlemen, are quarreling. All these people, even Macron, even GDP are not worth your heart attacks - they will go somewhere somewhere. Try to live up to their departure. But returning to the topic of the article. I remembered Galich "Something incomprehensible in the air." Something a lot of Napoleons appear. Though a Frenchman, even a Petersburg murderer. So there won't be enough places in the fools.
              2. 0
                18 November 2019 00: 19
                Quote: zaches
                They are the misfortune of Russia.

                hi
                Hard. And for me (Vitaly, not out of malice) he is just a demagogue who has a lot of time and who proves with enviable persistence that salt is sweetness. As for blah blah Kolomoisky and his messages, everything is simple here: everything that could be communed, destroyed and sold in / in the former Ukraine, sold and shoved into offshore (Bene here has nothing to profit from, except to take away the bank), the last main thing the property of the republic - the land goes under the hammer to other latifundists (here Benny is also in a burnout), but he wants money and that is not why he returned to his penates from Israel, not to spend on Zelensky's campaign in order to stay at a broken trough. So he started a "bargaining" on three sides, perhaps someone "will do a fool" and invest in his bubble. But it looks like crazy people are dumb.
            2. +1
              18 November 2019 05: 00
              Quote: Provincial-M
              How to say ,I represent certain sections of society in Russia !

              Wow! belay How you, gracious Mikhan, trumpeted yourself about yourself! fellow For example, I represent a certain layer of society - pensioners, and you have a multilayer? I recalled:
              Shrek: For your information, giants are not as simple as they seem.
              Donkey: Give an example.
              Shrek: An example? .. Well ... giants ... like bulbs!
              Donkey: Stink?
              Shrek: No, no.
              Donkey: Bring to tears?
              Shrek: What are you!
              Donkey: Oh, they probably blacken and get crowded in the sun.
              Shrek: No! Layered. Multilayer onions, me too - layer by layer. Are you truncated ?! We are multi-layered!
              Donkey: Ah, both are multi-layered ... but not everyone loves onions ... Cake! Everyone loves cakes! Puff!
              Shrek: I don't care about philistine tastes! Giants are not cakes! Clear? They are like a bow! Dot! Paragraph! Catch! Like a bow!
              Donkey: Do you know what everyone likes? "Forte"! Who will ever say, "I hate Forte puff ice cream"?
              Shrek: You know, Donkey, you'd better purr.
              Donkey: Do you have a napkin to wipe your lips? One word "Forte" drools.

              laughing
          2. 0
            17 November 2019 17: 08
            Quote: Lelek
            "Bekal" for Russia is a "non grata" figure and, in principle, a firing squad

            A naive view of things, dear shooter.
            Benya may well become the governor of the Dnipropetrovsk region. at New Russia fellow
        3. +1
          17 November 2019 15: 20
          And shaw can still bark mattress mongrel, hoping for a bone with leftover meat, from the Washington Reich Chancellery. But Macron - this is serious. This is a man of Rothschild and he does not voice his opinion.
          1. +2
            17 November 2019 19: 22
            Quote: TermNachTER
            This is a man of Rothschild and he does not voice his opinion.

            They say that the Rothschilds, after all, have weight in this sublunar world, while the Poles have no weight ... wink
        4. +1
          17 November 2019 17: 43
          the Poles fear that they will not have time to change their shoes in politics and will be between France and Russia. as between two millstones
      2. 0
        17 November 2019 15: 08
        Macron in foreign policy operates on the economy of his country, and what can Polish leaders rely on?
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        2. +2
          17 November 2019 19: 24
          Quote: Chaldon48
          Macron in foreign policy operates on the economy of his country, and what can Polish leaders rely on?

          Probably at Pompeo, but sowing the backup is very doubtful ... request
      3. +2
        17 November 2019 15: 37
        "Napoleon" is now in "Crosses" ...
        1. +4
          17 November 2019 15: 58
          Yes, do not care about this Europe - cut off from the resources and no EU. Cut off China from the same and there is no greatness of the "Asian tiger".
          Only the United States can match us on this issue. Therefore, they want to "break" Eurasia, otherwise they will remain on the periphery. hi
          1. -1
            17 November 2019 19: 26
            Quote: Kasym
            Yes, spit on this Europe - cut off from resources and there is no EU

            For example, stop supplying gas from the word at all. wink
        2. 0
          17 November 2019 16: 32
          Quote: Greg Miller
          "Napoleon" is now in "Crosses" ...

          Yes, and in every madhouse, at least one belay laughing
      4. 0
        17 November 2019 17: 24
        Quote: Sergey39
        "Macron felt he could become Napoleon."

        Napoleon may feel, but one was the Emperor and conqueror of Europe, and the second was a prisoner of the island of St. Helena.
      5. Maz
        +4
        17 November 2019 19: 41
        Recently, news came through that China, India and Russia are preparing a new payment system, and before that there was a rumor that Deutsche Bank was going to do the same in Europe so that the United States could not track payments and somehow affect European banks. If also Europe falls off the dollar payment peg = it will be worse than the third world war
      6. +2
        17 November 2019 20: 58
        Polish press: Macron felt that he could become Napoleon

        In Poland, they urgently announced a vacancy for the post of a new "Pani Walewski".
        A multi-kilometer queue was created. There is no end to the candidates laughing
      7. 0
        18 November 2019 01: 14
        Aha, the cowards were cowardly, they felt that it smelled fried, and no one needs this Poland to spoil Russia except for its role, and in the first case it will be surrendered as in 1939. laughing
      8. +3
        18 November 2019 03: 23
        Quote: Sergey39
        So he can then afford a U-turn in foreign policy,

        doubtful !!! wink
        if in terms of adequacy this one with his country and people is a little better than pscheks, then in foreign policy the custodians are just as worthless as the full-time fighters with our monuments !!! wassat wassat
    2. +4
      17 November 2019 14: 07
      Macron is late. Napoleon's place is already taken .. lol
      1. +3
        17 November 2019 14: 10
        Quote: DEPHIHTO
        Macron is late. Napoleon's place is already taken ..

        Napoleon!
        1. 0
          17 November 2019 15: 03
          Great cake!)
        2. +1
          17 November 2019 17: 28
          Quote: Tommy
          Napoleon!

          Well, maybe it’s taken, but already one wanted to take its place, as a result, the basement, the collapse, the poison of April 30 1945 of the year.
      2. -7
        17 November 2019 14: 31
        Macron is late. Napoleon's place is already taken .. lol

        Namesake hi ,
        that "occupier" is only in height and fits ... laughing
        1. +1
          17 November 2019 14: 48
          Do not confuse Napoleon Buonopart with Napoleon Macron.
      3. +1
        17 November 2019 14: 54
        Quote: DEPHIHTO
        Napoleon's place is already taken

        The Polish media, led by Duda, have long occupied him. And God forbid Macron to make it to Charles de Gaulle. Although Marie Le Pen is quite a J. D'Arc in a modern version. She already has a potential army of "yellow vests", it remains only to officially lead.
        1. 0
          17 November 2019 17: 43
          Quote: Vita VKO
          The Polish media, led by Duda, occupied him a long time ago.

          No, these under Sigismund II "cannon" "The speech is rich from one to another."
      4. -1
        17 November 2019 15: 06
        Quote: DEPHIHTO
        Macron is late. Napoleon's place is already taken .. lol

        Macron doesn’t aim at Napoleons
        1. -1
          17 November 2019 19: 27
          Quote: RUSS
          Macron doesn’t aim at Napoleons

          All that you know, you are our patriotic. laughing
    3. +3
      17 November 2019 14: 09
      Are the Poles afraid of the next section of the Rzecz Pospolita? What will it be like? If it will be... sad request
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      2. +4
        17 November 2019 15: 59
        The Poles are not afraid, they have a memory like a fish for 5 minutes. Therefore, they bark periodically to Russia and Germany, are called to the next partition of Poland
      3. -1
        17 November 2019 16: 17
        Quote: Nycomed
        Are the Poles afraid of the next section of the Rzecz Pospolita? What will it be like? If it will be... sad request

        No one claims to the lands of Poland, on the contrary, in the foreseeable future, Poland can squeeze a piece from its eastern neighbor.
      4. 0
        17 November 2019 17: 42
        Rather, the Poles will now simply perish in oblivion and contempt as an old, useless "woman of easy virtue".
    4. +2
      17 November 2019 14: 10
      Russia had to cooperate with France, but Poland in this regard is pfe-e-e.
      1. +10
        17 November 2019 14: 21
        Quote: rocket757
        but Poland

        And what about Poland? Sorry, Lord, as it is. Yes
        1. +1
          17 November 2019 14: 37
          Quote: rocket757
          Russia had to cooperate with France

          De Gaulle treated Russia well (removed it later))
          Quote: bouncyhunter
          And what about Poland? Sorry, Lord, as it is.

          And these hyenas and anti-Semites from the USSR received a lot of things and the bastards again howled in chorus .. hi
          We have a good lesson in Russia .. soldier
          1. +1
            17 November 2019 15: 08
            My friend! Who among us started talking about "anti-Semitism"? Have your priorities changed? lol love
        2. +2
          17 November 2019 14: 54
          Good day, dear comrades!
          Quote: bouncyhunter
          Quote: rocket757
          but Poland

          And what about Poland? Sorry, Lord, as it is. Yes

          Yes Yes! This Polish Forgive Lord feels that he will soon be unclaimed by anyone! am Worries, hyena!
          1. +6
            17 November 2019 16: 22
            Quote: Reptiloid
            Worries, hyena!

            Yes, I don’t know what name to call them. Worms? recourse
            1. +1
              17 November 2019 18: 30
              Quote: bouncyhunter
              Yes, I don’t know what name to call them. Worms? recourse
              Well, essentially it is. Parasites living at the expense of the hosts. negative
              1. +5
                17 November 2019 18: 39
                Quote: Reptiloid
                Host living parasites

                This is their essence. Yes
                1. +2
                  17 November 2019 19: 06
                  Scream the USSR, Stalin .....
                  A Stalinist "skyscraper" "stands in Warsaw. What was the leader thinking when he planned it? .... That the USSR would come and spread to Europe?
                  Quote: bouncyhunter
                  Quote: Reptiloid
                  Host living parasites

                  This is their essence. Yes
                  1. +3
                    17 November 2019 19: 12
                    Quote: Reptiloid
                    Scream the USSR, Stalin .....

                    This they can do. Moreover, because of the puddle it is sponsored ...
                    1. +2
                      17 November 2019 19: 25
                      Quote: bouncyhunter
                      ... They know how. Moreover, because of the puddle it is sponsored ...
                      nothing! Nothing! am sponsors are blown away slowly! they introduce an economy mode, squeeze out where they can, demand payment for protection! This sponsorship will be limited soon!
                      1. +5
                        17 November 2019 19: 27
                        Quote: Reptiloid
                        This sponsorship will be limited soon!

                        Let it be so . Yes
    5. +6
      17 November 2019 14: 11
      Napoleon was in French politics this .. General de Gaulle.
      Macron will be Napoleon from House 6.
      1. +1
        17 November 2019 14: 58
        Quote: Janek
        Macron will be Napoleon from the 6th chamber.

        If only with a Napoleon cake. "Emperor Napoleon" has been there for a long time. laughing
        1. -2
          17 November 2019 15: 31
          Macron has not been a cake for a long time. Is that cognac.
    6. +8
      17 November 2019 14: 23
      Lyakhi intensively turned the fifth point - "Nord Stream-2" is being completed, in case of temporary overlaps with the transit of pipeline gas through Ukraine and Poland, there are sea supplies of liquefied gas from Yamal, and then no one needs Poland except the United States as a launching pad for the RSD and, accordingly, targets for a Russian nuclear strike.

      Plus, Michael Pompeo recently announced the historical right of states to annex neighboring territories - such as the Kingdom of Poland as part of the Russian Empire laughing
    7. +2
      17 November 2019 14: 27
      You can understand the Poles, how someone goes to Russia, they fall under the distribution, Russia drives the guests to the West again falls to the Poles, and so they are afraid of the next distribution. Although it’s time for them to understand that no one needs them, they just get confused under their feet.
    8. -2
      17 November 2019 14: 35
      Macron and Merkel are preparing for the collapse of the currency zones. To the ruble zone they are spread ... Straw is laid.
    9. +1
      17 November 2019 14: 49
      Napoleon, the dismemberment of Europe belay
      1. D16
        0
        17 November 2019 15: 35
        The author of the first European Union.
    10. +3
      17 November 2019 14: 57
      At the same time, it is not entirely clear how "the possibility of becoming Napoleon", in the Polish sense, fits in with the relative warming of relations between Paris and Moscow.
      What kind of heating in relations between the Russian Federation and the ruling elite of France can we talk about if the latter extended, in unison with Germany and Italy, the sanctions against Russia? Macron is a very odious and controversial figure (like the Belarusian father) and trusting his words and wishlist is more expensive for yourself. By the way, Macron, in conjunction with the Arab League, announced their services as "peacekeepers" in the Donbass:

      But the Russian Federation has repeatedly expressed its negative attitude to the idea of ​​introducing foreign "well-wishers-legionaries" into the Donbas:
      1. D16
        +1
        17 November 2019 15: 42
        Peacekeepers do not come as vampires without party invitations smile . In this case, the invitation of two parties to the conflict is necessary. This is basically not possible. Because balabolyat for lohtorata. And Butsk and the French.
    11. 0
      17 November 2019 15: 03
      Macron, unlike Polyakhia, has eggs, and even remotely, it may look like Charles de Gaulle. But the fields beyond number 6 will not advance, for they themselves have set the slaves of the United States.
    12. 0
      17 November 2019 15: 08
      Macron simply felt that now you can declare your ambitions and the main hegemon of the earth is not up to him and some kind of Europe. As they say, strike the iron without leaving the cash register.
    13. 0
      17 November 2019 15: 27
      It’s interesting, and when will the psheks feel the approaching fist, and not one, to their nose lifted up to the sky?
    14. 0
      17 November 2019 15: 49
      No, Napoleon he was the best leader in the world! Nobody will surpass him ...
    15. +3
      17 November 2019 15: 51
      Quote: knn54
      Do not confuse Napoleon Buonopart with Napoleon Macron.

      or Napoleon Falcon.
      and the Pole should be thoughtful. Napoleon Bonaparte was their ally. They went to Russia together. They fled from Russia separately, though. Well, nothing, nothing.
    16. +3
      17 November 2019 16: 04
      Macron felt that he could become Napoleon.
      Macron is an elected manager. Today he is, and tomorrow another.
      His bonapartism does not interfere much.
      But there is one "lame duck" who dreams and dreams of steel Rzeczpospolita. At the same time "From boundary to boundary".
      And this is not the desire of one politician.
      This is a state hotel. This is government policy.
      Which is much more dangerous for others.
      For it is well known what these desires led to.
      1. +4
        17 November 2019 17: 18
        Quote: demo
        But there is one "lame duck" who dreams and dreams of steel Rzeczpospolita. At the same time "From boundary to boundary".

        It is not for nothing that they say, "a drunk will sleep it off, a Pole will never."
        They are, in the near future, a real danger for Russia. As A. Suvorov said, "it's time to stop this fellow."
    17. +2
      17 November 2019 16: 15
      Better to become Napoleon than to always remain Polish litter.
    18. +4
      17 November 2019 16: 21
      Once again, the Poles began to realize who actually controls Europe, especially when Britain was about to dump the EU. And that the Poles themselves are no one in this respect and there is no way to call them.
    19. +4
      17 November 2019 16: 48
      I understand that the Poles claimed to rule Europe and the whole world, and then such a bummer? The French did not ask the Poles for permission? We'll have to look for a new Maria Valevskaya to put under Macron.
      1. +4
        17 November 2019 17: 03
        He loves older wink
        1. +2
          17 November 2019 19: 37
          Well, Merkel can, but she’s not a Polish girl.
    20. +3
      17 November 2019 19: 55
      Everyone remembers Napoleon as a great commander who was unlucky only with the Russian Empire, and who remembers Lyakh traitors, even hetmans?
      1. 0
        18 November 2019 12: 11
        Napoleon was unlucky with the Saxons, who pulled off a "cunning plan", as a result Napoleon did not seize Britain, but went to Russia, his best potential ally wassat
    21. 0
      19 November 2019 04: 52
      Gayropeans are tired of the constant "obkom roof" !!! "You don't come here, you come here ........".
    22. +1
      20 November 2019 19: 40
      Poland: prepare a new "Mrs. Walewski" for the new Napoleon. Preferably, at least 65.

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