In the USA, they doubt the combat usefulness of the latest Zumwalt destroyers


American experts doubt the combat usefulness of the latest US Navy destroyers, re-evaluating their combat role.


Three new Zumwalt class destroyers are in real trouble

- writes an American expert Kyle Mozokami.

Initially, it was assumed that the fleet would consist of more than three dozen ships of this type, but their armament "was stunned by delays, reductions and a staggering increase in cost."

Design flaws, including those caused by the financial side of the matter, did not allow the implementation of a large-scale reconstruction program fleet. In particular, it was planned that a new fleet of destroyers would be able to eliminate the voids, the formation of which is planned in connection with the dismissal of Ohio-class submarines, the author believes.

Creating an analogue of the American "pocket battleship", working alone in the open sea in the face of the enemy, is a risky step

- Mozokami believes, believing that the project has turned into a failed program to "upgrade" the backbone of the US surface fleet.

However, he believes that the very idea of ​​concentrating combat power on an advanced stealth ship is in demand. True, from his words, this will cost several more years of idle shipyards and new costs.

Recall that earlier with the destroyers of the project in the U.S. Navy repeatedly had problems. It got to the point that the Zamvolt’s engines literally stalled and had to be towed to a military base by its tugs. Also in the United States they can’t decide exactly where to use these warships. If initially they were positioned as effective surface-based means of launching missile strikes, then they decided that they should be used as support ships for landing operations.
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  1. Operator 17 November 2019 13: 11 New
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    "Design flaws, including those caused by the financial side of things, did not allow the implementation of a large-scale fleet reconstruction program", - I recall, the local freaks of timokhina and a small bribe turned inside out for pulling the Russian Navy into the construction of similar Egyptian pyramids afloat laughing
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      1. Shurik70 17 November 2019 15: 23 New
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        In short, this expert says that the very concept of low-visibility ships with powerful weapons is promising. But, as it turned out, for its development it will still have to spend several times more money than expected.
        And he is absolutely right. The idea is not just promising, but inevitable.
        But I doubt that Russia should get stuck in this race. Do not pull. In the coming years, it will be the Black Hole. Yes, and not really, we need an "invisibility capable of firing shells over a thousand kilometers." Against whom do we fight on it? Weak opponents and aircraft with missiles will be enough. Against the strong, not ships, but intercontinental ballistic missiles will be used.
        1. TermNachTer 17 November 2019 15: 27 New
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          Yeah, buy another 20-30 lards, and after 5-10 years tell the public that it didn’t work out? I want to note that the so-called stealth technology has not yet passed more than one serious test in battle, and hundreds of billions have already swelled into it. It will be completely ridiculous when it turns out that it is simply a “huge soap bubble”, like “star wars”.
    2. Dmitry Donskoy 17 November 2019 19: 05 New
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      Yeah, and with foam at the mouth they proved the need for them as part of the Russian Navy
      1. rich 17 November 2019 21: 04 New
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        US experts doubt the combat usefulness of the latest US Navy destroyers

        What do Vietnamese correspondents and British scientists think about this? recourse
        1. Eragon 18 November 2019 15: 43 New
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          Quote: Rich
          US experts doubt the combat usefulness of the latest US Navy destroyers

          What do Vietnamese correspondents and British scientists think about this? recourse

          They conclude that in terms of cutting and stealing dough, Russia is hopelessly behind the United States.
          1. rich 18 November 2019 15: 47 New
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            Well, why are you so, Dima. "Managers" from the "East" may be offended winked
  2. Ural-4320 17 November 2019 13: 11 New
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    All the same, engineering degradation is evident in the world. And then we are surprised at the technical breakthroughs of third countries. Therefore, breakthroughs are important to people as a result, not a process.
    Anecdote:
    - Actually, I don’t like children, but the process itself! ..
    That is, for the entire existence of the missile region, no one has guessed to pack similar missiles in standard launchers?
    1. Svetlana 17 November 2019 13: 25 New
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      >>> All the same, engineering degradation in the world on the face. And then surprised by the technical breakthroughs of third countries<<<

      All countries belong to the world community. And the "third" too. And your statement about the degradation of engineers is a dubious thing.
      1. Ural-4320 17 November 2019 14: 50 New
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        The phrase "third countries" is used exclusively in the context of their absence in the development of any field in the past. Example: China's lunar program with 2 moon rovers, or moon hopper from Israel.
        It is clear that they had groundwork in the space field, but then bang - a ready-made program in hardware.
    2. SETSET 17 November 2019 13: 31 New
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      That is, for the entire existence of the missile region, no one has guessed to pack similar missiles in standard launchers?

      "Good thinking - comes after."
    3. parkello 17 November 2019 13: 48 New
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      Well, with the engineers, everything is fine there, even very good. This is for those who give tasks and TTT for products with brains stress. and the engineers and technicians there are very skilled. they know how to build and produce very well. Well, they saw the loot is not childish there. because the quality of work justifies it. by their standards (prices) recourse
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    5. Mikhail3 17 November 2019 14: 10 New
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      Yes, there is. But not in this case. The very idea of ​​radar stealth, and generally stealth of a ship with a displacement of 15 000 tons, does not belong to engineers, but to politicians. Of course, our scientist, who so successfully escaped to the West, played a big role in this matter, but still. A metal mass of several thousand tons, hardly noticeable on the radar screen! Only a believer in science can accept this as an opportunity. Not knowing any of its sections, namely the believer.
      All this nonsense was originally taken from comics, where, under the blows of lightning, omnipotent electromutants are born, creeping mutant spiders and other "scientific miracles" occur. So what is happening is a consequence of the seizure of world levers of controlling people in whose heads there is neither knowledge nor intelligence.
      Engineers do not degrade. They just stopped paying attention to their incomprehensible chatter. And it’s too early to write off the Zumvolt theme, it will be possible to receive financial exhaust from the program for many years until these ultramodern ships finally turn into port collectors of waste and industrial waste.
      Engineers built this world. And it turned out to be so durable that those who seized power ceased to pay attention to them while the engineers were busy with construction. True, the world has already begun to crack and fall apart ... but is money still going on? So there is nothing to grieve! Everything goes according to plan!
      1. Mityay65 17 November 2019 16: 01 New
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        Quote: Mikhail3
        The very idea of ​​radar stealth, and generally stealth of a ship with a displacement of 15 tons, does not belong to engineers, but to politicians

        Not engineers and politicians, but military sailors.
        After the operation of the ICRC Legend, which allowed the USSR Navy to shoot the U.S. Navy at the crossings of the ocean, with missiles as in a computer game, and the appearance of plans to commission the even more advanced ICC Liana, the Yankees fell into a light panic in the late 80s. The need for an inconspicuous ship, inconspicuous primarily in its physical fields for satellites with active and passive radars, became simply beyond the necessary, otherwise the US Navy had to be re-qualified as a purely expeditionary force against third world countries.
        Fortunately, judging by everything, having created the basic concept of an inconspicuous ship, the era of postmodernism has come, and the adversary got confused why did he need such a ship at all, because both Legend and Liana rested in a Bose ...
        Here the clever politicians understood that it was possible to rob a little ... and, apparently, the Zamvolt operation was a success. wassat
        I believe that until the advent of a new generation of ICRC in the Russian Federation or China, the idea of ​​Zamvolt will not be in demand.
        1. Mikhail3 17 November 2019 16: 14 New
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          Navy men have been educated for ages. There is a need for teleportation. So this does not mean that it is worth ordering one, and it will appear! Well, what can be stealth here ?! Enormous masses of metal introduce too much disturbance into electromagnetic fields to be covered by any kind of coatings, at least from materials known to us. To solve such problems, we need another, generally unknown to us, physics. And I personally, as a person with some education, strongly doubt that this physics will appear in the foreseeable future.
          And even more so, it would never have occurred to any technically educated TK on the basis of a vague hope to form!
          1. Mityay65 17 November 2019 18: 42 New
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            Quote: Mikhail3
            what can be stealth here ?!

            Simple. Guidance and targeting satellites cannot direct the strike forces of the USSR Navy (RF, PRC) to the destroyer. This is operational stealth.
            GOS KR will be able to capture the target, the destroyer, only at a small distance, taking into account the rule of the square of the distance of the reflected signal, at the extremely small. When the passive means of Zamvolt already see the CR at a distance of 4 times greater and react. Or the KR will lose the destroyer altogether. Or the destroyer will leave the area. This is a tactical stealth.
            U.S. Navy officials said that in terms of stealth, Zwolt meets the requirements.
            Quote: Mikhail3
            Enormous masses of metal introduce too much disturbance into electromagnetic fields to be covered by any kind of coatings, at least from materials known to us.

            And how can this indisputable fact be used to destroy the adversary's fleet? If you have specific proposals, you should arrange them in the form of an invention.
            Electromagnetic sensors are used to detect submarines at close range - up to 5 km.
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              Quote: Mityai65
              U.S. Navy officials say that in terms of stealth

              Still, wooden superstructures.
            2. Mikhail3 18 November 2019 13: 06 New
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              Quote: Mityai65
              . Guidance and targeting satellites cannot direct the strike forces of the USSR Navy (RF, PRC) to the destroyer. This is operational stealth.

              Either the air is drunk now, or the goblin is now ryan ... Where did this game come from ?! Who told them that ?! Was a satellite in orbit caught and interrogated?
              Quote: Mityai65
              GOS KR will be able to capture the target, the destroyer, only at a short distance

              But where do you get all this plague? Radars take "inconspicuous" aircraft from a great distance, you just have to play a little with a long wave! And airplanes weigh in the 10 area! Plus, any ship leaves a huge footprint in the water, which makes it visible by optical means from orbit as well as a five-thousandth bill on a beggar's table, since for some reason (I don’t understand why) there is little electromagnetic range.
              I do not understand your comments. Some news from the universe of the American naval dream ...
              1. Mityay65 18 November 2019 17: 39 New
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                Quote: Mikhail3
                I do not understand your comments. Some news from the universe of the American naval dream ...

                Of course you don’t understand - you are not an expert, but just a talker who writes half-crazy articles on VO ...
                1. Mikhail3 21 November 2019 10: 46 New
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                  I am like that. Judging by your comments, in which the office clerk is booming, are you a naval officer? Sorry...
                  And yes, trying to remind someone now of honor and truth is crazy. Write already - a complete nutter, why be shy?
            3. Crimean partisan 1974 18 November 2019 19: 01 New
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              operational stealth ..... some kind of nonsense,, Dimka. and you know that any surface and underwater vehicles have a wake track, although it will just be made on a 3D printer made of fkleren, the second important point. and where will the infrared signature go from the power plant ,,,, these two factors are enough for the zoom to be better buried initially than to push an extraordinary loot into it
              And how can this indisputable fact be used to destroy the adversary’s fleet? ... the noise of power plants and propulsion. with an extended antenna of hydrophones of 2 km, it is possible to determine the fart of a whale or any movement above and below water with an accuracy of a second degree, you can read about it in your spare time so as not to smack the crap on the air
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    6. TermNachTer 17 November 2019 15: 16 New
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      The mattresses have a decision about which ship the fleet needs, not the admirals or shipbuilding engineers decide, but the owners of shipbuilding and other firms involved in the construction. For them, the most important thing is that it would be more expensive, but how much it is viable they generally care about. They will not be crushed in these troughs.
  3. Lesorub 17 November 2019 13: 18 New
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    In the USA, they doubt the combat usefulness of the latest Zumwalt destroyers

    Better late than never! The sky-high price of these ships makes itself felt! )))
    1. Sergey39 17 November 2019 13: 39 New
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      Well, three incomprehensible Zumwaltes are still better than the "upgrade" of the backbone of the US surface fleet. For us.
    2. Oyo Sarkazmi 17 November 2019 18: 12 New
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      Not. Let’s better push the budget of the Defense Ministry into seafaring Pepelats than into real effective weapons.
  4. sir_obs 17 November 2019 13: 18 New
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    Design flaws, including those caused by the financial side of the matter


    What are they hinting at, is there little money invested?
    Or what other construction and money correlate?
    Tram did not long ago declare that he prints as much as necessary, but so that in March the end of his term. And then the shipbuilders understood the reason for the unsuccessful design — they printed a little, we still have to.
  5. Nycomed 17 November 2019 13: 22 New
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    "Dopilat", if they have taken. Replacement “Burke” must be prepared. They are already thinking about it. And we, as long as we don’t even have analogues of Burke, and when it is foreseen, is unknown.
    1. knn54 17 November 2019 14: 18 New
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      Only Rogozin is not mistaken ..
      1. Nycomed 17 November 2019 14: 56 New
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        He is never wrong. "East" is still plundered, despite a bunch of "landings", we will soon live on the moon, and Mars - in general - a trifling matter. And those responsible for drilling holes were also found. So Rogozin has full carte blanche! And if you add a little sonny ... fellow
      2. bouncyhunter 17 November 2019 16: 32 New
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        Quote: knn54
        Only Rogozin is not mistaken ..

        Nicholas hi The one who does nothing is not mistaken. This is not in defense of Rogozin. wink
      3. Oyo Sarkazmi 17 November 2019 18: 18 New
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        Quote: knn54
        Only Rogozin is not mistaken ..

        Well, Serdyukov also "stole". But with him, the Georgians got pomodam, began to produce calibers and boats to them, that they began to get from Razku to the Raqqa, the construction of submarines moved forward, the fleet began to be updated quickly.
        If Rogozin steals 10% of success, let him “steal”.
  6. Incvizitor 17 November 2019 13: 22 New
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    Give them 404, they are glad to any suckers.
    1. Nycomed 17 November 2019 14: 03 New
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      After a while, “neighing”, there will be a reason. laughing bully
      1. Incvizitor 17 November 2019 22: 21 New
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        Marine "commanches" lol
  7. den3080 17 November 2019 13: 22 New
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    Slots can be used as floating classes for training personnel. Moor and use.
    How to scrub the deck ... and so on.
    You can still give it to someone. China for example.
  8. Professor 17 November 2019 13: 27 New
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    "expert" Kyle Mozokami is the author of National Interest. That says it all.
    1. Lopatov 17 November 2019 14: 53 New
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      Exactly.
      So them neocons

      Damn ... Someone will definitely be deprived of visas to the USA laughing laughing laughing
  9. Sitearvi 17 November 2019 13: 29 New
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    Really, the Yanks have problems with money, they began to produce tented armored vehicles, now they don’t like boats, something is wrong in this kingdom.
  10. rocket757 17 November 2019 13: 29 New
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    Not everything is good that glitters.
    Not "fit", it happens.
  11. faterdom 17 November 2019 13: 31 New
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    We will rejoice for partners: for so many years it has been swiftly going nowhere, and at a high price! Further to them "successes". And the Stalin Prize to the one who convinced them that "invisibility" is the key to world domination!
  12. Masha 17 November 2019 13: 37 New
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    .Three new Zumwalt class destroyers are in real trouble.

    Oh, trouble, trouble ... preaching ...
    Well ... for someone, trouble, and for someone, is joy in life .... wink
  13. Svetlana 17 November 2019 13: 40 New
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    Quote: Saitarvi
    Really, the Yanks have problems with money, they began to produce tented armored vehicles, now they don’t like boats, something is wrong in this kingdom.

    There would be problems, these ships would not be built. In principle, the diversity of technology, both successful and unsuccessful, just indicates the presence of both money and design ideas.
  14. voyaka uh 17 November 2019 13: 43 New
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    Zumvolty "attached" actually ...
    Of the 3 Zumvolts, three squadrons are formed, independent of the AUG.
    In each: one Zumvolt and two Virginia.
    When the Littorial trimarans finish re-equipping the Norwegian anti-ship missiles, they too will be bonded to these squadrons.
    Task: the fight against surface ships and enemy submarines.
    1. Avior 18 November 2019 00: 45 New
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      Zamolty begs in specialized missile defense ships.
      Mk57 cells are almost twice as large as mk41.
      And if you remove the second tower and put the module there on 32 cells MK41, the ship would be universal.
      1. voyaka uh 18 November 2019 01: 33 New
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        The Americans have ABM missile defense with their Aegis.
        They are going to put a "network" on the path of the BRDS. To
        they could shoot successively several times.
        And the Zumvolts will receive the latest SM-6 anti-ship missiles.
        And the latest Tomahawks converted into RCC. Tomahawks taught to scour
        in search of goals, reconfigure yourself from goal to goal,
        unfold in the event of a slip, etc. In general, they are "wiser."
        Zumvolts are predicted in fighters of numerous Chinese frigates
        and corvettes.
        1. Avior 18 November 2019 10: 26 New
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          And cm6 and Tomahawks can be set on the Berks.
          But with the pro against ICBMs, the problem is to limit the size of the MK41 cell - although they can squeeze out everything that is possible, like hit that kill, the size still imposes a limit on the range, height and speed of the missile defense.
          For μ57 cells, the Volvolta size is 1,7 times larger in volume, which means a potentially much greater range of missile defense missiles, and for this purpose, the Volvolta simply begs
          1. voyaka uh 18 November 2019 10: 40 New
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            Zumvolts have longer cells. They are for growth missiles. The same SM-6 with a longer booster.
            1. Avior 18 November 2019 11: 22 New
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              They are both long and larger in cross section.
              At the present moment, it is precisely these sizes that are a limitation for the further development of missile defense missiles such as cm3, the rest are enough for MK41 in the near future, at least.
              Therefore, their use in this quality suggests itself.
              The second is in the MK57 cells, it is quite easy to put 4 MLRS guided missiles per cell, the very thing that is needed to support the landing, while the second gun can be removed, if necessary the missiles will provide the rate of fire, and instead put the MK41 complex on 32 cells, It will be a great help for missiles in MK57-cm6, essm and others.
              But they don’t do anything that I wrote, they continue to use the potential of the Zamvoltov 100 percent
              1. voyaka uh 18 November 2019 11: 36 New
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                The alteration that you proposed is logical, but expensive. Showdown, etc.
                Zomvolty and so out of the budget. They "inject money" drop by drop with minimal alterations to the design. Well, at least they guessed the general concept would change dramatically ... from coastal strikes to anti-ship functions.
                1. Avior 18 November 2019 11: 39 New
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                  It is not necessary to open, just remove the second tower.
                  Alternatively, instead of the guns in the second tower, place non-vertical launchers for missiles supplementing the MK57, especially anti-aircraft and self-defense, which would not be superfluous for a ship with anti-ship missiles.
                  But even without this missile defense, it simply begs instead of the dreams "where would you adapt it?"
              2. Crimean partisan 1974 18 November 2019 19: 21 New
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                Therefore, their use in this quality suggests itself ... this iron is a coaster and only ..... for fun, a lesson with the destroyer URO Stark was not taken into account, the somwald iron remained with two points of close defense, ..... . I hope you read what happened to the Stark destroyer after getting into it 2 complete exosets that one did not explode?
                1. Avior 18 November 2019 19: 36 New
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                  Stark is not a destroyer, but a frigate
                  Stayed afloat
                  1. Crimean partisan 1974 18 November 2019 19: 44 New
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                    Stark is not a destroyer, but a frigate .... and what's the difference, both exosets boarded the board, and if there weren’t a subsonic exoset with a funny warhead of 50 kg each and Mosquitoes with 120 kg and a speed of 900 m per second, what would it be? Yes, and if you carefully read about this case. then the second exoset did not explode, but made a hole above Stark’s vatyrka ..... conclusion .........
                    1. Avior 18 November 2019 19: 47 New
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                      Read carefully
                      If the frigate’s commander hadn’t burst and reacted to the situation, these exosets would have no chance to grow into a frigate
                      1. Crimean partisan 1974 18 November 2019 19: 51 New
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                        If the frigate’s commander didn’t burst ..... if there were mushrooms and yes mushrooms in my mouth ..... the fact is a fact, I personally say that the striped defense of the near defense neurozumili lesson of 30 years ago. zoom consists of two points, here comes
                      2. Avior 18 November 2019 19: 53 New
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                        Air defense of any zone works, only if you turn it on
                        Stark didn't do it
                        Therefore did not work
                      3. Crimean partisan 1974 18 November 2019 19: 59 New
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                        Only if you turn it on .... the warship was in the combat zone, the air defense must be not only on but also on full alert, especially since the Verginia cruiser shot down an Iranian airliner a little earlier than this incident, so there’s no need to shadow the wattle fence suggest, lessons are not taken into account. Yes, and I am pleased, suckers are suckers when they constantly step on a rake
                      4. Avior 18 November 2019 20: 02 New
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                        The ship was in a special zone and they were sure that they would not shoot
                        Conclusions were made later, this did not happen again
                      5. Crimean partisan 1974 18 November 2019 20: 08 New
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                        Conclusions were made later, this did not happen again .... repeated with the destroyer Cowell, an interesting story
                      6. Avior 18 November 2019 21: 40 New
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                        After the incident with the terrorist attack in the port against the destroyer, Cole also accepted changes in the instructions - for almost 20 years this has not happened.
                        Although no one is safe from terrorist attacks
                        Both ships, by the way, remained afloat, repaired and returned to service.
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                        the report notes the extreme difficulty of preventing such episodes - in the case of Cole, the terrorists' motorboat hid until the last moment from the watch of sailors behind the garbage barge.

                        It is noteworthy that the crew of the Cole was not brought to justice - on the contrary, the sailors were recognized as heroes. Specialists and investigators were struck by the competent actions of personnel on the localization of flooding, fires, the organization of medical care to victims and the adoption of other measures in the struggle for survivability. This is despite the fact that the average age among the sailors and foremen was only 22-24 of the year, and many were hardly 19.

                        When the surviving sailors were asked how they managed not to become confused and take competent actions to save the ship, they all answered as one: we went through this in the “training”. The answer is quite logical - in the US Navy, there has always been an increased focus on the struggle for survivability. As the joke goes, the second specialty of an American sailor is firefighter.

                        In order to prevent such attacks and minimize the damage, the command of the US Navy has developed two main areas of work:

                        To repel possible terrorist attacks, a whole range of close-range firearms was installed on board the ships: in addition to the standard 50-caliber Browning, even more formidable and destructive weapons appeared on each destroyer - automatic Bushmaster 25 or 30 caliber guns mm - one hit of such ammunition is enough to smash a fiberglass boat or motor boat.

                        something like that.
                  2. Avior 18 November 2019 20: 08 New
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                    And by the way, the situation is the opposite
                    The airliner was shot down a year after the Stark incident. Just because we changed the instructions after that incident.
                  3. Crimean partisan 1974 18 November 2019 20: 17 New
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                    The airliner was shot down a year after the incident withStark .... the essence of the matter does not change. without serious short-range anti-aircraft defense.
                    . matter rubbish, by the way, evil tongues say that Virginia was involved a little later in the downing of a Boeing in the Gulf of Mexico
                  4. Avior 18 November 2019 21: 33 New
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                    I wrote, they did not turn on the air defense, as did the electronic warfare systems.
                    That’s why rockets hit Stark
                    no one expected an attack in that situation. After this incident, the instructions were corrected in favor of security - and a year later the airliner, which did not respond to requests, was shot down.
                  5. Crimean partisan 1974 19 November 2019 09: 25 New
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                    I wrote, they didn’t turn on the air defense, ....... take note of the word “wrote” causes some associations, it’s better to “print” or “post” it on modern slang, but oh well, according to Stark ... the system is like times were put on alert. another thing automation did not work on the aft volcano when they rushed into the manual ... it was already too late
                    on a downed Boeing, .... you printed, "the liner that did not respond to requests," in principle, yes, but the liner glows on the screen like a Christmas tree. the signature is clearly contrasted for a combat aircraft. and there was no declared no-fly zone, and followed an open course for liners, unlike the South Korean one, so don’t justify the Virginia commander, he’s a killer, and how the top of cynicism received another award for this
                  6. Avior 19 November 2019 10: 08 New
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                    The volcano was in manual mode there, and therefore did not shoot.
                    EW is also in manual mode, so it did not work.
                    The liner flew right after the battle with Iranian ships, did not respond to requests, although it did accept them — it was found in black boxes — and after the incident with Stark, the new instructions were followed. Why the pilots of the liner did not answer, now there is nobody to ask.
                    . take note of the word "wrote" causes some kind of association, it is better to "print" or "post" on modern slang,

                    If you need any advice, I will definitely ask him.
                    hi
                  7. Crimean partisan 1974 19 November 2019 12: 14 New
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                    If you need any advice ... yes, this is not advice, and as an indication of the use of the word causing certain associations, regarding Stark .... there is a Foreign Military Review in the jury about this case. everything was described in detail how and what and who did what every minute, unfortunately I do not remember what year the issue was. I won’t get into the attic,
                  8. Avior 19 November 2019 12: 49 New
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                    I read
                    A. Georgiev, captain of the 1st rank. The incident with the frigate URO "Stark" US Navy // Foreign Military Review. - 1987. - No. 9. - S. 56-58
                  9. Crimean partisan 1974 19 November 2019 13: 09 New
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                    I read ... since I read to what doubts about not learned air defense lessons, as on Stark, let me see 2 firing points of the near air defense ... and that says it all. for example, destroyers of the “Sovremenny” type (the largest series of the USSR) have 4 AK-630 points, there are variations with the ZRAK broadsword, that is, 4 to 2 six-barrel thirties, and only 2 points on the zoom, output .... to the rake after the old did not attack because there was no worthy adversary after that
  • maidan.izrailovich 17 November 2019 13: 46 New
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    It is necessary to encourage the "partners". Three ships is too few to draw conclusions. There are still 30 pieces to do. lol
  • janeck 17 November 2019 14: 13 New
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    a suitcase without a handle?
  • Prisoner 17 November 2019 14: 33 New
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    winked So it came to the giraffes.
  • Vladimir_2U 17 November 2019 14: 38 New
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    Well, everything, the "Star Destroyer" did not work out, exhale with relief!
  • ABC-DOC 17 November 2019 14: 50 New
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    More like an iron without a handle ... The benefits are the same ...
  • Yaro Polk 17 November 2019 14: 53 New
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    As you call an iron, so it will float)
  • Thrifty 17 November 2019 14: 56 New
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    Present them to ukroin, accelerate the process of its ruin and collapse.
  • Good_Anonymous 17 November 2019 15: 41 New
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    US experts doubt the combat usefulness of the latest US Navy destroyers


    "Shaw, again?" Well, never once doubted in the last week.

    It got to the point that the Zamvolt’s engines literally stalled and had to be towed to a military base by its tugs.


    Soon tugboats will begin to accompany the Zumwaltes smile
  • EXPrompt 17 November 2019 16: 31 New
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    As they say, 5 years have not passed that the states thought about the military value of the deadlocks.
    What are the Balts or Finns ...
    All the value of the locks in their sawn price. there like 8 yards per unit already ..
  • eklmn 17 November 2019 19: 35 New
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    A variety of opinions about Zumwalt exists and should exist; journalism is at work. By 2021, all three ships will be ready and the cost of three will reach $ 12 billion. But they are not going to throw / drown them.
    Here's the opinion of another magazine, Warrior Maven (May 2019)
    https://defensemaven.io/warriormaven/sea/stealthy-uss-zumwalt-destroyer-to-fire-new-missiles-laser-weapons-NBeVUW8-MEmlRLGkJtvtWQ/
    “... USS Zumwalt, currently undergoing weapon activation in anticipation of its first deployment, will receive new Sea Tomahawk missiles capable of tracking and destroying moving targets at sea, SM-6 IA interceptors, high-precision high-precision guns and - very likely in in the near future - laser weapons.
    “... We are no longer what is called the coastal attack zone, which acts on the coast. Now we are an attacking platform for an open attack on blue water. The Navy decided to go this route.
    “... Another weapon that naval officials intend to give Zumwalts is a 150 kilowatt laser weapon. Zumwalts are one of the first ships with an integrated energy system that generates up to 78 megawatts - enough to power thousands of homes. Destroyers need a capacitor system to store, and then quickly supply energy to the laser.
    “... Ultimately, the Navy will position the Zumwalts as“ transitional ”ships between the old fleet and a fleet equipped with lasers, railguns and other energy-intensive weapons. Zumwalts will mix chemical (powder) and electric energy weapons on one platform. Over the next twenty or thirty years, the service may not build ships with chemical energy weapons at all.
  • GibSoN 17 November 2019 19: 59 New
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    writes American expert Kyle Mozokami.
    Umm .. Why didn’t you mention that this is NI (National Interest)? Type pale yellow?
  • Archivist Vasya 18 November 2019 15: 17 New
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    A similar article was recently. Then I will repeat myself - the iron should not swim)
  • Romanenko 18 November 2019 22: 13 New
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    Probably soon Zamvolty will be the main backbone of the Ukrainian fleet.
    It will be very cool, but a little expensive for an independent