Ukraine buys twenty French patrol boats

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Ukraine buys twenty French patrol boats

OCEA FPB 98 MK I patrol boat

Ukraine strengthens the protection of maritime borders. According to Ukrainian media, the government approved the purchase of twenty patrol ships (boats) of the French company OSEA.

The Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine supported the project to strengthen the maritime security and border protection through the acquisition of 20 French patrol boats. The corresponding agreement between the governments of Ukraine and France is planned to be signed in the near future, after which it must be ratified by the Verkhovna Rada.



The contract value is 136,5 million euros, of which 85% of the funds as a loan will be provided by France. Boats should be delivered within three years with partial localization of production in Ukraine.

Implementation of the project is planned, including with partial financing from credit funds of both commercial banks and treasury loans from the French Ministry of Finance. The loan is provided by the state of France. 15% is paid by Ukraine from the budget. 85% loan funds

- said the Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Arsen Avakov.

The agreement also provides for after-sales service, training of 240 crew members and 120 technical personnel, spare parts and tools necessary for maintenance during 2 years of operation, technical support in Ukraine (one technician and engineer of the manufacturer’s company) within 60 months from the date deliveries of the first ship to Ukraine, delivery of ships to Odessa and insurance for the transition.
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    1. +6
      17 November 2019 06: 59
      There will certainly be new provocations at sea from Ukraine
      1. -2
        17 November 2019 11: 06
        confiscate and have a freebie
      2. +3
        17 November 2019 11: 17
        With a 30 mm gun as an armament? Only against anglers. And fishermen can be captured from a boat, like Somalis.
      3. +1
        17 November 2019 12: 06
        No, I just cut the budget. Avakov recently ordered helicopters for 500 million euros, now boats. But this has nothing to do with defense. Both that, and another - the killed rubbish.
        1. +9
          17 November 2019 14: 06
          Apparently Kolomoisky and the company are finishing off the Ukrainian VPK. If Petya was still trying to build something - at least boats on his Lenin Forge, then the current government decided that keeping the wreckage of the Soviet military-industrial complex afloat was too expensive. PM boats and helicopters for the Ministry of Internal Affairs purchased in France. In Brazil, they want to buy supertukano. In Turkey, Zelya discussed the purchase of Altai tanks. No wonder he said the other day that Kharkov had built only one new tank. It prepares the population for the idea that the plant is unnecessary and useless. Again, the MO finds fault with ukrobtr, blocking them due to European armor. In general, ukrovpk will merge. And this is good. good
          1. +3
            17 November 2019 14: 46
            That's for sure. UkroVPK came full ambassador. But before that cruisers and "aircraft carriers" were built there, I'm already silent about other smaller classes. And now even a lousy boat cannot. It looks like everything has already been sold and stolen.
            1. +4
              17 November 2019 17: 05
              A fragment of the empire does not need aircraft carriers and cruisers. This is stupid not his level. Particular fragments of the old imperial industry in the next 10-20 years will finally collapse and will not save them. Like the fragments of Soviet energy. As well as the remnants of the ukrainian army of a superpower. At best, they will have a small compact army armed with NATO weapons. Such as Ukraine will be able to feed. request
          2. +1
            17 November 2019 14: 56
            Don't tell me ... Construction of armored rations at the Leninskaya Kuznitsa plant is exactly the same budget cut. For each trough that has no combat value, $ 6,25 million was paid from the budget.
            In addition, Sabakov and Kolomoisha are people from different camps. They are competitors in the dribbling budget.
            1. +3
              17 November 2019 17: 01
              Its own production is in any case jobs, taxes, and a whole chain of enterprises tied to it. Now in Ukraine there are 3 more or less working shipbuilding industries. They finish the Forge - there are two left. request
              1. +2
                17 November 2019 18: 22
                They hanged me, dear, I haven't laughed like that for a long time. So, in short, Kherson "Pallada" has been standing for three years already, after it handed over the dock to the Vietnamese. KhSPO the last ship - a chemical tanker for the Netherlands, last year. And then, only the hull work, after launching, the tugs were dragged somewhere for completion. That is, they did the lowest-skilled and lowest-paid job. KhSSRZ - used to survive by repairing Russian "river - sea", since 2015 - it is. Nikolaev Black Sea - in 2018 - bankrupt, sold for $ 4 million. Huge factory, for the price of two premium cars !!!!! Nikolaev Shipbuilding - put up for sale.
                "Ocean" is barely breathing, mainly repairs, construction of yachts and structures for flyovers - bridges. Odessa Shipyard - sometimes repairs. Ilyichevsk Shipyard - repairs of mainly foreign ships and a customs post for smugglers. Have I forgotten anything?
                1. +2
                  17 November 2019 18: 59
                  Nibulon builds ships for the agricultural company of the same name. Accordingly, it feels tolerable. Smart Holding Novinsky is also breathing. It has two shipyards - in Kherson and Nikolaev. Kherson is still building. Plus ship repair. Given the cheapness, it keeps afloat for now.
                  1. 0
                    17 November 2019 19: 06
                    Nibulon builds barges for transporting grain along the Dnieper - this is a little bit wrong.
      4. 0
        17 November 2019 15: 14
        20 pirate speed boats.
        Someone will add work to track and somehow counteract, otherwise there will be captured civilian vessels.
    2. +3
      17 November 2019 07: 04
      Interestingly, more expensive Poroshenko's crafts?
      The price of which, with zero combat value, is very "European".
      And who will shoot the foam? More precisely, who will get them?
    3. +8
      17 November 2019 07: 05
      Well, a stranger decision than the decision to purchase French patrol boats for the needs of Ukraine is not even possible to imagine. Why? And above all, because the OCEA company, from which the boats were bought, is primarily engaged in the construction of sea yachts for wealthy Pinocchio, and not at all military ships for the French Navy. And now it even exports its products. And now we look at the countries to which countries OCEA delivered its boats. Philippines, Algeria, Benin, Nigeria, Suriname and Indonesia. That is, countries that are located in tropical latitudes. Something tells me that Ukraine is very far from the tropics.
      1. -18
        17 November 2019 07: 23
        Something tells me that everything is bad with geography, for example, the climate in Sochi and Odessa is subtropical.
        1. +26
          17 November 2019 07: 41
          Yeah ... especially in winter .. Subtropics damn. With the wind and wet snow.
          1. +6
            17 November 2019 12: 08
            Yeah, and Novorossiysk boron - 9 points. Such subtropics that I want to cry.
          2. +1
            18 November 2019 08: 30
            There is almost no snow in Sochi !!!
        2. +12
          17 November 2019 09: 08
          And how long has the climate in Odessa become subtropical? Come back in January ...
          1. +4
            17 November 2019 10: 16
            Visited early February. Every day on the radio about the weather sounded - "zero degree, ozhelyaditsa that mryaka". And the wind blows to the liver
            1. +4
              17 November 2019 10: 31
              Quote: Piramidon
              "zero degree, ogel that mryaka"

              Fir-trees ... how can you take this language seriously ??? smile
              I remember ... "it’s safe, the doors are being repaired, the stumble is coming - vulitsya chorvonoarmiyska"
              it’s impossible to listen without a smile smile

              how many admirals vmu will be added to 20 boats? or is it a military secret?
              I will remember the “gloom” laughing
              1. 0
                17 November 2019 14: 25
                Fir-trees ... how can you take this language seriously ???
                I remember ... "it’s safe, the doors are being repaired, the stumble is coming - vulitsya chorvonoarmiyska"
                it’s impossible to listen without a smile

                This is because you do not know Ukrainian. For any person who speaks one language, another language related to yours seems ridiculous. As a person who speaks both languages, there is nothing funny in the words "safe, doors are conceived. Zupinka in the street Chervonoarmiyska"
                1. +1
                  17 November 2019 15: 43
                  And in vain smile
                  but you noticed correctly.
                  Estonian language sounds absolutely horny for the Finns, for example.
                  smile
                  but spodayko egg or kinder surprise?
                  Well, isn’t it funny? :)
        3. +4
          17 November 2019 14: 44
          Quote: -Barmaley-
          Odessa is subtropical.

          In Odessa and Odessa region the climate is --- "The climate is humid, moderately continental. In general, the climate combines the features of the continental and maritime.
          Winter is mild, with little snow and unstable; the average January temperature ranges from −2 ° C in the south to −5 ° C in the north. Possible short-term, up to 7-15 days, frosts of about -25 ° C - -30 ° C. Strong winds, 7-15 m / s, especially in February in the southern part of the region. "Pancake subtropics, with frosts down to -30! laughing
          1. +2
            17 November 2019 15: 55
            Why not subtropics ??
            1. +2
              17 November 2019 19: 17
              Quote: den3080
              Why not subtropics ??

              With subtropical ice in the Odessa port !!
      2. +3
        17 November 2019 08: 42
        Something tells me that not ALL boats will be at the border guards.
        Another "model" of the armored car, now the Avakov boats in "chocolate".
      3. +7
        17 November 2019 09: 16
        Well, they have an epic proposal within the framework of rich researchers (those who are looking for all kinds of ships / treasures at the bottom of the sea) - Ocea Nemo 50 ICE. They promise an Antarctic certificate.


      4. +3
        17 November 2019 09: 52
        Quote: GKS 2111
        Well, a stranger decision than the decision to purchase French patrol boats for the needs of Ukraine is not even possible to imagine. Why?

        Nothing strange. In the practice of companies, all European, inclusive, "thank" the key figures who contributed to the conclusion of the contract. Need to decrypt? Contracts were also concluded with Boeing-Watermelon for the supply of aircraft to Russia, for example. Commercial bribery works flawlessly. A donkey laden with gold takes any fortress.
    4. +13
      17 November 2019 07: 06
      FPB 98 has a speed of up to 35 knots and has a cruising range of 1200 nautical miles (at a speed of 12 knots). Armament: 30 mm DS30B artillery mount. There is a search boat. The crew is 14 people.








      1. +4
        17 November 2019 07: 10
        Well, everything is better than Poroshenko’s armored horses!
        1. +2
          17 November 2019 07: 43
          I think that it’s better than the ugly scrap metal recently delivered. In any case, they will be newer.
      2. +3
        17 November 2019 07: 29
        With such boats, they will do us nasty things in the same Sea of ​​Azov. ..
        1. +3
          17 November 2019 08: 21
          Quote: Thrifty
          With such boats, they will do us nasty things in the same Sea of ​​Azov. ..

          Madey ... Meydey ...
      3. +2
        17 November 2019 08: 29
        Quote: Rich
        . Armament: 30 mm DS30B artillery mount.

        In terms of armament, I would not rush things.
        1. +5
          17 November 2019 09: 11
          These are options. There are modular slots. Algeria wanted to put him an 30mm gun. Ukrainians can try to put their combat module on the idea.
          1. +1
            17 November 2019 09: 16
            Quote: donavi49
            Ukrainians can try to put their combat module on the idea.

            If the conditions of the contract stipulate this, then yes, otherwise they may be slightly bent in terms of the guarantee and previously free will be paid.
            1. +4
              17 November 2019 09: 18
              Well, localization is possible about this - France delivers a boat without armament (and in politics it focuses on this in negotiations with Russia), and in Odessa / Nikolaev, the combat module is screwed to it.
              1. 0
                17 November 2019 09: 23
                Quote: donavi49
                Well localization is possible about it

                It may well be.
      4. +2
        17 November 2019 08: 45
        Quote: Rich
        Crew - 14 man.

        Already 14 people !!! Where are they all placed there and what do they do? I remember that the crew of the Lira project's nuclear submarine consisted of only 30 people ...
        1. +2
          17 November 2019 09: 11
          Quote: bistrov.
          Already 14 people !!!

          Well, there the inspection team should be in theory. This is just the number of seats on the yacht, I think so.
        2. +2
          17 November 2019 10: 41
          Quote: bistrov.
          Quote: Rich
          Crew - 14 man.

          Already 14 people !!! Where are they all placed there and what do they do? I remember that the crew of the Lira project's nuclear submarine consisted of only 30 people ...

          one steers, the second looks through binoculars, two more on substitution.
          the rest cut fat, cowboy and other appetizers, place bottles with a vodka ...
      5. +4
        17 November 2019 09: 44
        Ukraine wants to put in an anti-ship missile laughing
      6. 0
        17 November 2019 23: 50
        Quote: Rich
        speeds up to 35 knots and has a cruising range of 1200 nautical miles


        It should be clarified that these parameters correspond to different modes of movement. Such a range can be achieved in an economical mode, about 8-10 knots. At full throttle, the range will be 300 miles maximum.
    5. +6
      17 November 2019 07: 08
      approved the purchase of twenty patrol ships (boats) of the French company OSEA.

      and they will be happy! laughing
      1. +1
        17 November 2019 07: 34
        Masha hi love I don’t know about their happiness, but they will create a lot of problems for us. ..
        1. +10
          17 November 2019 07: 40
          come on....
          and they will create a lot of problems for us. ..

          nobody can compare with such problems that we create for ourselves! Through hardship to the stars!!! wink love
          1. +2
            17 November 2019 08: 17
            hi The main thing is not to go left and be a wonderful family man. Yes
            1. +4
              17 November 2019 08: 23
              Vitaliy, howdy there! love
              Quote: Rusland
              hi The main thing is not to go left and be a wonderful family man. Yes

              so don’t go! all in your hands! legs, pants .... recourse
              1. +4
                17 November 2019 08: 34
                about!!!! someone without left and can’t imagine life .... laughing immediately minus flew .... laughing
                1. +4
                  17 November 2019 09: 41
                  Masha! love Yes, people are still alive !! (minus - not mine) lol
            2. +6
              17 November 2019 09: 42
              Vital hi and going to the left can be a wonderful family man lol
              1. +4
                17 November 2019 09: 44
                Shot ... everywhere ripened? lol
                1. +5
                  17 November 2019 09: 45
                  is it really everywhere you’re ready ... I’m old fat and lazy crying
              2. +2
                17 November 2019 14: 33
                Quote: novel xnumx
                Vital hi and going to the left can be a wonderful family man lol

                Roma hi So I went to the left, under the guise of a summer cottage, I need to take readings from the electric meter, I decided to leave the litter on the pike in the bay, and then there was ice and chill. Yes
    6. +3
      17 November 2019 07: 12
      just wondering...
      The contract value is 136,5 million euros, of which 85% of the funds will be provided by France as a loan.

      forgive or collectors will beat out? recourse
      1. +4
        17 November 2019 09: 42
        collectors are NATO ??? laughing Basil! hi
        1. +4
          17 November 2019 12: 05
          Quote: novel xnumx
          collectors are NATO ??? laughing Basil! hi

          And then! That one racket .... wink hi
    7. +4
      17 November 2019 07: 17
      Shameful damn it ..! Then they will start buying black soil in the geyropa ..
      1. +5
        17 November 2019 07: 54
        Quote: Provincial-M
        Shameful damn it ..! Then they will start buying black soil in the geyropa ..

        I’ll finish the thought ... first they will sell, then they will buy their own .... and it’s clear that with the markup is not small .... wink
        1. +3
          17 November 2019 08: 41
          Quote: Masha
          I’ll finish the thought ... first they will sell it, then they will buy their own .... and it’s clear that the wrap is not small ..

          This is what Masha meant! hi On the outskirts, it has already reached the point that they are forbidden to produce fat there (they quietly hide for sebe there)
          And they buy rubber from Poland, etc. This is no longer funny. Ugh damn
        2. +4
          17 November 2019 09: 44
          they have a great teacher ... from Kiev, by the way
    8. +5
      17 November 2019 07: 18
      Mm yes, the country where the best Soviet shipyards are left is being bought by French patrol boats ....
      Well, the next change of mind ....
      1. +9
        17 November 2019 08: 58
        Quote: jonht
        Mm yes, the country where the best Soviet shipyards are left is being bought by French patrol boats ....
        These are the consequences ....
      2. +3
        17 November 2019 09: 09
        No shipyard can handle such a boat for 1 million euros. France agreed to lend 85% of the purchase only on French soil.
    9. +4
      17 November 2019 07: 20
      " - said the Minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Arsen Avakov ... "

      The minister of the entire police, and the national battalions of all Ukraine, Avakov, also decided to create a mosquito fleet. It's time to give him another title - "Admiral of the Fleet." Yes
      1. +3
        17 November 2019 07: 59
        Before that, he also initiated the purchase of euro-helicopters. And, like in the same place, in France. So you can also assign General de Avisienne!))
    10. +3
      17 November 2019 07: 26
      That is, at least 20 new admirals will appear in their fleet .... laughing
    11. +5
      17 November 2019 07: 29
      But this is the edge. Can't even build patrol boats?
      1. +1
        17 November 2019 07: 52
        I was also surprised.
        But there are nuances - boats for border guards are needed, but there is no money for them.
        And the French give money for them.
        . the offer of OSEA was the most cost-effective for Ukraine and the needs of the STSU, while France proposed a comprehensive approach to credit financing and agreed to partial localization, 25% of production in Ukraine.

        In addition, it is noted that the ships will be manufactured on marine aluminum, so they will be lighter and more maneuverable.
      2. +2
        17 November 2019 08: 01
        Boats for border guards are being built. I read an article about a year ago. But less displacement. In Kiev, it seems they are building, not on the Poroshenko's smithy, but someone else ...
        1. +2
          17 November 2019 08: 16
          Here, by the way, I found. UMS 1000. But they are smaller and seemingly without stationary weapons.
      3. -1
        17 November 2019 08: 43
        Quote: professor
        But this is the edge. Can't even build patrol boats?

        Thanks to your fellow tribesmen who settled in Kiev .. angry
      4. +1
        17 November 2019 09: 00
        I don’t even know what to answer ... on the one hand, building such a live should not be a problem. And on the other hand, now, apart from the television raids, they are not really creating anything else.
        1. 0
          17 November 2019 09: 54
          I think this is the key question in the 85% loan. And from the French banks.
      5. +4
        17 November 2019 09: 07
        No one can offer a better offer - 15% of the cost = for 20 million euros = 20 of large boats. Credit - then they will give it as a thread.
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      1. +2
        17 November 2019 07: 58
        Quote: Silvestr
        Where is the greatness of Soviet Ukraine?


        In fact, the USSR stopped whaling in the 1987 year, when “Soviet Ukraine” returned from its last voyage. After that, the floating base was converted into a fishing vessel, and on 31 on July 1995 it was decommissioned and subsequently dismantled for metal in the Turkish city of Aliaga.
        1. +5
          17 November 2019 08: 05
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          "Soviet Ukraine"

          one of my teachers went to the doctor on it. Then getting into the fishermen was prestigious. It was interesting to listen to his stories about the share of the ship's doctor, but I would not go
          1. +1
            17 November 2019 08: 21
            Quote: Silvestr
            one of my teachers went to the doctor on it.
            Lucky. There, only women fellows worked ... My dad also went to the Sea of ​​Okhotsk.
            They waited for Valera for a day, but he did not appear. The foreman with a gun appeared and told what it was not necessary to tell. And so everyone guessed.

            Passing by the fishing port, the "bankers" saw a moored vessel - the Soviet Russia floating base, which had just returned from an oh ... long voyage. Just ooh! The population of this floating city was on 90% Evami. The remaining 10% were Adams who surrendered to the Serpent. Many Ev and Evushka stood on the utah of this mastodon and sang at passing to financiers: "Rather, the lion will refuse meat than the girl from the caress of the sailor."

            Valera flinched, the foreman went into resonance. Valera ran up the ladder, the guard rushed after him. For Valera? For a sealed briefcase? For resonance, forgetting about resonance! Such a compromiser ... Agreed. Better this way.

            Well, there, on the ship, did they have a Muslim paradise? Yes paradise! But without virgins.

            Both were immediately captured and dragged away. A day later, the foreman, as inexperienced, managed to break free and crawl to his own, but without a briefcase. With a gun ... with a crooked barrel.

            An expedition from the starpom was immediately equipped for Valera. The expedition worked for two days and found Valera, but did not receive the “bonus”. The briefcase was lost in a series of dozens of cabins, which changed the midshipman. He also drank, bastard. Therefore, he did not remember anything. He lay in the cabin, moaning and getting ready for Lynch's trial. The prosecutor's office seemed to him a kindergarten.

            But beauty saves the world. She saved Valera ... from the prosecutor’s office.

            Three graces stood on the pier and asked the watchman to call the commander of our ship. They drew so modestly the legs of the forty-third size on the asphalt, drawing an arc around the leather briefcase.

            - Citizen captain, we brought you money. Everybody there! And a thousand more girls gathered from above. You give us only Valerychik for a couple of days more ...

            Gave ... for ten days ... to the guardhouse. They cured there.

            https://e-libra.ru/read/525322-charli-charli-bravo.html
            The same whalers.
            1. +4
              17 November 2019 08: 34
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              Lucky. In the same place, only women worked ...

              And about that too laughing
        2. +1
          17 November 2019 08: 47
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          and on July 31, 1995 it was decommissioned and subsequently disassembled for metal in the Turkish city of Aliaga.

          Well, I’ll add my own .. Right heart bleeds ..

          We will judge for all this! soldier
          1. +1
            17 November 2019 09: 04
            Quote: Provincial-M
            We will judge for all this!

            Soviet Russia was also cut into needles in 90. A couple of years later.
            1. +1
              17 November 2019 09: 42
              Quote: mordvin xnumx
              Quote: Provincial-M
              We will judge for all this!

              Soviet Russia was also cut into needles in 90. A couple of years later.

              So I read it for a long time, a new aircraft carrier under construction at the Okrug shipyards was sold to the Chinese for a couple of crates of whiskey and 100 thousand dollars .. Drank they talk for a week with "generals" and girls ..
              PS China rose precisely in the 90s, in technology and military power! There is something to think about for all of us Orthodox Slavs hi
              1. +1
                17 November 2019 09: 55
                Quote: Provincial-M
                So I read for a long time, the new aircraft carrier under construction in the outskirts of the Outskirts sold to the Chinese for a couple of boxes of whiskey and 100 thousand dollars ..

                Ours are good too. Chinese spies even bought a charter.
                - What are you afraid of! What is your salary? And you are offered three hundred “bucks”, and this is only one point in the combat charter of an aviation unit! No risk! Moreover, this is no longer a secret! You see! Good people offer such money that you share information with them.

                Major Alexander Artyukhov was able to convince. But captain Vadim Nikolaev could not understand what his colleague wanted from him.

                - Wait a minute. I didn’t understand, - I could not understand Nikolaev in any way. - What people? What kind of money? Who needs this charter?

                Artyukhov, having confidentially moved along with the chair, almost whispers in his friend's ear:

                - Do not be afraid! Reliable people. No kidalov. I know them for a long time, there haven’t been any problems yet. Why are you staring at me? Did you see a spy? All spies in Moscow are sitting in the Arbat military district! All secrets have long been sold to the States or China. They are rowing money with a shovel, and we count every penny! Take a moment, do the "grandmother"!

                https://military.wikireading.ru/57332
                1. +1
                  17 November 2019 16: 51
                  Quote: Mordvin 3
                  Ours are good too. Chinese spies even bought a charter.

                  Bakatin especially and Kalugin in his advisers bastard .. negative Well, then Kozorevs, Kokhi, Chubaysky, etc.
                  Creatures .. negative And ebn danced orchestras led to the laughter of the world community ".. Burn in hell
    13. +1
      17 November 2019 07: 39
      And will palm oil be settled with French?
      1. +1
        17 November 2019 07: 45
        No-land, organisms and bodies of divinchas. But rather they will generally forgive whom they owe.
        1. 0
          17 November 2019 07: 52
          And why the hell do the French have their "ladies"? They themselves have this "good" ...
          1. +3
            17 November 2019 08: 04
            Have you seen these French and, in general, European beauties ?! I traveled around Europe a little ... For a long time I could not understand why the Poles were considered beautiful. I visited Germany, I realized ... Hungarians, by the way, where have not gone yet ....
            1. 0
              17 November 2019 08: 07
              There are all sorts ... As they say: "for every taste and wallet." bully
      2. 0
        17 November 2019 07: 51
        Quote: Nycomed
        And will palm oil be settled with French?

        Chernozem. wink
        "Here's for black earth, here's for alumina!" fellow Will Ukraine be a sea power. laughing
        1. +5
          17 November 2019 08: 08
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          Chernozem.

          last liquid commodity. Villagers will rush to cities or pitchforks.
      3. -1
        17 November 2019 08: 56
        No, there will be cotton wool. And the straw. And honey.
      4. 0
        17 November 2019 23: 56
        Will be calculated land plots for the "new Israel"
    14. 0
      17 November 2019 07: 46
      And who will give loans and debts? Is the Cabinet of Ukraine really?
      1. 0
        17 November 2019 08: 06
        Quote: mag nit
        And who will give loans and debts? Is the Cabinet of Ukraine really?

        They are trying to solve financial claims and arrears at the expense of Russia - a whole arbitration court plows for them day and night "for a small share" ... Then Kolomoisky, Zelensky's sponsor, recently received a statement - Kolomoisky offered to take from the Russians $ 100 billion for friendship.
        As one of my acquaintances said: "They wanted to cut off fat from the organ that distinguishes grandfather from grandmother."
        Celery Anatomy ... fool
      2. +1
        17 November 2019 09: 05
        Russia is the same. The tricky plan is that when the European courts win, and Russia refuses to pay, transfer this credit burden to offsetting. That is, let the Europeans knock money out of Russia, arrest and sell property - and with this money Ukraine will repay the loan.
    15. +1
      17 November 2019 07: 50
      due to treasury loans Ministry of Finance of France. The loan is provided by the state of France. 15% is paid by Ukraine from the budget. 85% loan funds

      French bastards: arm psychopaths against Russia ...
      1. +1
        17 November 2019 09: 39
        Not only the French are scraping their used Ukraine scrap. There, both Americans, and British, and Canadians, and half of Europe were noted ... To sell to Ukraine is much more profitable than to utilize it ourselves.
      2. 0
        17 November 2019 12: 01
        Quote: Olgovich
        French bastards: arm psychopaths against Russia ...

        Crazy border guards?
        This is something new.
        Armament is not for the Navy, but border guards.
    16. +3
      17 November 2019 08: 17
      The parking lot in Kerch needs to be expanded.
      1. 0
        17 November 2019 10: 48
        Why, the ukrov boats were given, they did not take money for storage. I am generally shocked by our leaders in the supreme power. I don’t know for whom they work, but certainly not for Russia.
    17. +3
      17 November 2019 08: 17
      Ukraine buys twenty French patrol boats


      And when the aircraft carriers built ...
      1. +3
        17 November 2019 08: 36
        Not she built, but the Soviet Union.
        1. +3
          17 November 2019 08: 42
          This is understandable, but they still have production and which way they chose ...
          1. +2
            17 November 2019 08: 46
            It seems that the cadres were squandered, there are no young specialists, it is difficult to motivate old people to labor exploits for the sake of "nezalEzhnoy"! Devastation. hi
            1. +4
              17 November 2019 08: 49
              The comrades-in-arms came to power and they don’t need an industrial power, they need territory that is at war with Russia and they are successfully promoting it.
    18. +1
      17 November 2019 08: 35
      "Boats should be delivered within three years with partial localization of production in Ukraine ..." (c) Partial localization is a paint shop or something else?
    19. 0
      17 November 2019 08: 53
      Damn, here's our Israeli shipbuilders burst. They could have sold the Shaldag boats or even OPV-62 to Ukraine.
    20. 0
      17 November 2019 08: 54
      Well .. now 13 admirals will have 20 boats ..
    21. +1
      17 November 2019 09: 04
      Those. chocolate pan from supplies pushed back!
      But it’s nothing that everything there still has its own industry, even so, but it worked. Well, I’ve overcome it!
    22. 0
      17 November 2019 09: 34
      No, well, what ... A normal boat, to drive poachers in shallow water.
      1. +1
        17 November 2019 09: 55
        Wait! laughing They will go to them on the Medium Sea. Their admirals are awesome. As soon as the old tubs are cooked for them, they are immediately eager to maintain support in the Mediterranean. laughing
    23. 0
      17 November 2019 09: 38
      In Japan, such a boat (almost new) costs a maximum of 300-000 bucks with a guarantee of the hull, pihl and rotary columns. But he drank and drank in storage. Without weapons, but with Achilles-pdthm vfibyf hipalon ribbons!
    24. +1
      17 November 2019 10: 11
      Ukraine buys twenty French patrol boats

      Where did the money come from, Zin? belay
      And, probably, of those that are being squeezed out of Gazprom. lol
    25. 0
      17 November 2019 10: 14
      how many boats will "go to the left"? and how soon?
    26. 0
      17 November 2019 10: 17
      Will they be calculated in kind? This is how many girls they will need to send to the panel in France?
    27. 0
      17 November 2019 10: 53
      Nice patrol boats, fast ones. Aluminum body. The combat module will most likely be the one that is installed on small armored boats of the Gyurza project.
    28. 0
      17 November 2019 12: 11
      So soon there will be a lot of boats in Ukraine and there will be no money left at all.
      As a result, Somalia will change its geographical location ....
      1. 0
        18 November 2019 00: 01
        By the way, as a pirate life, it is great to attack unarmed ships. To act against any ship larger than the "rook" is a form of suicide.
    29. 0
      17 November 2019 12: 14
      But Russia does not attack and does not attack request .
    30. 0
      17 November 2019 13: 02
      Quote: -Barmaley-
      Something tells me that everything is bad with geography, for example, the climate in Sochi and Odessa is subtropical.

      Something tells me that winter temperatures even in Odessa are near-zero and even lower. The patrol must be at sea and in snowfalls. And on boxes with iron partitions and without heaters it will seem like hard labor. In dampness, cold, on the vertu, and the inability to bring the temperature in the cockpit to normal. To put a potbelly stove? - This is the way out. And with the song: "Fire is beating in a small stove ...."
      1. +1
        17 November 2019 15: 07
        These boats are also sold in the tropics. Aluminum is one of the best thermal conductivity metal. If there was no thermal insulation, then on a hot tropical day a thermal shock is guaranteed for 30 minutes inside. So thermal insulation should be.
        And in addition to the air conditioner, put a stove on a solarium, like on passenger buses, there is probably nothing complicated. Again, "localization" and money for it.
      2. 0
        18 November 2019 00: 12
        On yachts Webasto put in simple cases. When everything is done in an adult way, then the central climate control system.
    31. 0
      17 November 2019 13: 19
      Quote: Antares
      Quote: Olgovich
      French bastards: arm psychopaths against Russia ...

      Crazy border guards?
      This is something new.
      Armament is not for the Navy, but border guards.

      Pogranitsy, of course, are completely independent there, and in no way obey the Ukrofascists.
    32. 0
      17 November 2019 14: 46
      I'm afraid to ask - are 20 boats more seaworthy than 1? Or are these the next estuary and river fighters smoked on paper with cigarette smuggling?
    33. 0
      17 November 2019 16: 28
      Why buy from the French when you can wait until the Americans once again decide to get rid of the old torn-off US Navy decommissioned? It’s cheaper for Americans to pass this junk to Ukraine than to give it up for scrap.
      1. 0
        18 November 2019 00: 15
        Americans like aircraft carriers are considering writing off ... belay belay belay belay
        1. 0
          19 November 2019 16: 20
          Quote: rzzz
          Americans like aircraft carriers are considering writing off ... belay belay belay belay


          That means they can be shoved aside by a great "power".
    34. 0
      17 November 2019 16: 38
      Quote: Pandiurin
      These boats are also sold in the tropics. Aluminum is one of the best thermal conductivity metal. If there was no thermal insulation, then on a hot tropical day a thermal shock is guaranteed for 30 minutes inside. So thermal insulation should be.
      And in addition to the air conditioner, put a stove on a solarium, like on passenger buses, there is probably nothing complicated. Again, "localization" and money for it.

      If the kubrick is below water level, then the heat can be tolerated. With air on the surface +30, below, of course, is almost equal to the temperature of water- +18.
      In January in Odessa, if it’s -10 in the air, then the temperature below is almost equal to the water temperature- +7. Good rheumatic and budding environment.
      And, do not forget the question asked at school in grade 3 - "What will happen if a snow woman is put on a fur coat? Will it melt?"
      And finally. In the tropics on boats, do northerners serve who are not used to the heat?
      I read that in Africa, in mines that mine diamonds, at a depth of 3 kilometers, underground heat is already in the region of +60 degrees, and only locals work there. White can't.
    35. 0
      17 November 2019 16: 46
      And what does the Minister of the Interior have to do with the purchase of boats for the Navy ???
      1. 0
        18 November 2019 00: 52
        This boat is not for the navy
    36. +1
      17 November 2019 21: 01
      Found a new way to get loans Yes
    37. 0
      17 November 2019 21: 11
      A loan secured by what? Russophobia is not quoted as a guarantee, and the country has 404 more and nothing.
    38. 0
      17 November 2019 23: 47
      On credit Ukraine (or A. Avakov bully ) could buy 200 ... 2 boats good
    39. 0
      18 November 2019 13: 39
      7 more breakthroughs are planned in the Sea of ​​Azov?

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