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Ukraine buys twenty French patrol boats

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Ukraine buys twenty French patrol boats

OCEA FPB 98 MK I patrol boat


Ukraine strengthens the protection of maritime borders. According to Ukrainian media, the government approved the purchase of twenty patrol ships (boats) of the French company OSEA.

The Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine supported the project to strengthen the maritime security and border protection through the acquisition of 20 French patrol boats. The corresponding agreement between the governments of Ukraine and France is planned to be signed in the near future, after which it must be ratified by the Verkhovna Rada.

The contract value is 136,5 million euros, of which 85% of the funds as a loan will be provided by France. Boats should be delivered within three years with partial localization of production in Ukraine.

Implementation of the project is planned, including with partial financing from credit funds of both commercial banks and treasury loans from the French Ministry of Finance. The loan is provided by the state of France. 15% is paid by Ukraine from the budget. 85% loan funds

- said the Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Arsen Avakov.

The agreement also provides for after-sales service, training of 240 crew members and 120 technical personnel, spare parts and tools necessary for maintenance during 2 years of operation, technical support in Ukraine (one technician and engineer of the manufacturer’s company) within 60 months from the date deliveries of the first ship to Ukraine, delivery of ships to Odessa and insurance for the transition.
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  1. pros000007
    pros000007 17 November 2019 06: 59 New
    +6
    There will certainly be new provocations at sea from Ukraine
    1. aries2200
      aries2200 17 November 2019 11: 06 New
      -2
      confiscate and have a freebie
    2. Jerk
      Jerk 17 November 2019 11: 17 New
      +3
      With a 30 mm gun as an armament? Only against anglers. And fishermen can be captured from a boat, like Somalis.
    3. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer 17 November 2019 12: 06 New
      +1
      No, I just cut the budget. Avakov recently ordered helicopters for 500 million euros, now boats. But this has nothing to do with defense. Both that, and another - the killed rubbish.
      1. g1v2
        g1v2 17 November 2019 14: 06 New
        +9
        Apparently Kolomoisky and the company are finishing off the Ukrainian VPK. If Petya was still trying to build something - at least boats on his Lenin Forge, then the current government decided that keeping the wreckage of the Soviet military-industrial complex afloat was too expensive. PM boats and helicopters for the Ministry of Internal Affairs purchased in France. In Brazil, they want to buy supertukano. In Turkey, Zelya discussed the purchase of Altai tanks. No wonder he said the other day that Kharkov had built only one new tank. It prepares the population for the idea that the plant is unnecessary and useless. Again, the MO finds fault with ukrobtr, blocking them due to European armor. In general, ukrovpk will merge. And this is good. good
        1. Borik
          Borik 17 November 2019 14: 46 New
          +3
          That's for sure. UkroVPK came full ambets. But before, cruisers and “aircraft carriers” were built there, I’m silent about other classes smaller. And now even a lousy boat is not able to. It seems that everything has already been sold and stolen.
          1. g1v2
            g1v2 17 November 2019 17: 05 New
            +4
            A fragment of the empire does not need aircraft carriers and cruisers. This is stupid not his level. Particular fragments of the old imperial industry in the next 10-20 years will finally collapse and will not save them. Like the fragments of Soviet energy. As well as the remnants of the ukrainian army of a superpower. At best, they will have a small compact army armed with NATO weapons. Such as Ukraine will be able to feed. request
        2. TermNachTer
          TermNachTer 17 November 2019 14: 56 New
          +1
          Don’t tell me ... The construction of armored shells at the Lenin Forge factory has exactly the same budget cut. For each trough, which does not have any combat value, $ 6,25 million was paid from the budget.
          In addition, Sabakov and Kolomoisha are people from different camps. They are competitors in the dribbling budget.
          1. g1v2
            g1v2 17 November 2019 17: 01 New
            +3
            Its own production is in any case jobs, taxes, and a whole chain of enterprises tied to it. Now in Ukraine there are 3 more or less working shipbuilding industries. They finish the Forge - there are two left. request
            1. TermNachTer
              TermNachTer 17 November 2019 18: 22 New
              +2
              Hung, dear, for a long time did not laugh. So, briefly Kherson “Pallas” - has been standing for three years after it handed over the dock to the Vietnamese. KhSPO last ship - a tanker - a chemical carrier for the Netherlands, last year. And then, only the hull work, after launching, the tugboats pulled somewhere for completion. That is, they did the most low-skilled and low-paid work. HSSRZ - previously survived by repairing the Russian "river-sea", since 2015 - worth it. Nikolaev Black Sea - in 2018 - bankrupt, sold for $ 4 million. Huge factory, priced at two premium cars !!!!! Nikolaev shipbuilding - put up for sale.
              "Ocean" barely breathes, mainly repair, construction of yachts and structures for flyovers - bridges. Odessa Shipyard - sometimes repairs. Illichivsk Shipyard - repair mainly of foreign ships and a customs post for smugglers. I have not forgotten anything?
              1. g1v2
                g1v2 17 November 2019 18: 59 New
                +2
                Nibulon builds ships for the agricultural company of the same name. Accordingly, it feels tolerable. Smart Holding Novinsky is also breathing. It has two shipyards - in Kherson and Nikolaev. Kherson is still building. Plus ship repair. Given the cheapness, it keeps afloat for now.
                1. TermNachTer
                  TermNachTer 17 November 2019 19: 06 New
                  0
                  Nibulon builds barges for transporting grain along the Dnieper - this is a little bit wrong.
    4. Pandiurin
      Pandiurin 17 November 2019 15: 14 New
      0
      20 pirate speed boats.
      Someone will add work to track and somehow counteract, otherwise there will be captured civilian vessels.
  2. Victor_B
    Victor_B 17 November 2019 07: 04 New
    +3
    Interestingly, more expensive Poroshenko's crafts?
    The price of which, at zero combat value, is very "European".
    And who will shoot the foam? More precisely, who will get them?
  3. GKS 2111
    GKS 2111 17 November 2019 07: 05 New
    +8
    Well, a stranger decision than the decision to purchase French patrol boats for the needs of Ukraine is not even possible to imagine. Why? And above all, because the OCEA company, from which the boats were bought, is primarily engaged in the construction of sea yachts for wealthy Pinocchio, and not at all military ships for the French Navy. And now it even exports its products. And now we look at the countries to which countries OCEA delivered its boats. Philippines, Algeria, Benin, Nigeria, Suriname and Indonesia. That is, countries that are located in tropical latitudes. Something tells me that Ukraine is very far from the tropics.
    1. -Barmaley-
      -Barmaley- 17 November 2019 07: 23 New
      -18
      Something tells me that everything is bad with geography, for example, the climate in Sochi and Odessa is subtropical.
      1. 210ox
        210ox 17 November 2019 07: 41 New
        +26
        Yeah ... especially in winter .. Subtropics damn. With the wind and wet snow.
        1. TermNachTer
          TermNachTer 17 November 2019 12: 08 New
          +6
          Yeah, and Novorossiysk boron - 9 points. Such subtropics that I want to cry.
        2. Nastia makarova
          Nastia makarova 18 November 2019 08: 30 New
          +1
          There is almost no snow in Sochi !!!
      2. ab2020
        ab2020 17 November 2019 09: 08 New
        +12
        And how long has the climate in Odessa become subtropical? Come back in January ...
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 17 November 2019 10: 16 New
          +4
          Been in early February. Every day on the radio about the weather it sounded - "zero degrees, the mistress that gloom." And the wind blows to the liver
          1. den3080
            den3080 17 November 2019 10: 31 New
            +4
            Quote: Piramidon
            "zero degree, ogredelsa that gloom"

            Fir-trees ... how can you take this language seriously ??? smile
            I remember ... "it’s safe, the doors are being repaired, the stumble is coming - vulitsya chorvonoarmiyska"
            it’s impossible to listen without a smile smile

            how many admirals vmu will be added to 20 boats? or is it a military secret?
            I will remember the “gloom” laughing
            1. Overko
              Overko 17 November 2019 14: 25 New
              0
              Fir-trees ... how can you take this language seriously ???
              I remember ... "it’s safe, the doors are being repaired, the stumble is coming - vulitsya chorvonoarmiyska"
              it’s impossible to listen without a smile

              This is because you do not know the Ukrainian language. For any person who speaks one language, another language related to yours seems ridiculous. As a fluent in both languages, there’s nothing funny in the words “watch out, doors are obeyed. Zupinka vulitsya Chervonoarmіyska is available”
              1. den3080
                den3080 17 November 2019 15: 43 New
                +1
                And in vain smile
                but you noticed correctly.
                Estonian language sounds absolutely horny for the Finns, for example.
                smile
                but spodayko egg or kinder surprise?
                Well, isn’t it funny? :)
      3. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis 17 November 2019 14: 44 New
        +4
        Quote: -Barmaley-
        Odessa is subtropical.

        In Odessa and Odessa region the climate is --- "The climate is humid, temperate continental. In general, the climate combines the features of continental and marine.
        Winters are mild, with little snow and unstable; the average January temperature is from −2 ° C in the south to −5 ° C in the north. Possible short-term, up to 7-15 days, frosts of approximately −25 ° C - −30 ° C. Strong winds, 7-15 m / s, especially in February in the southern part of the region. "Subtropic damn, with frosts down to -30! laughing
        1. den3080
          den3080 17 November 2019 15: 55 New
          +2
          Why not subtropics ??
          1. Xnumx vis
            Xnumx vis 17 November 2019 19: 17 New
            +2
            Quote: den3080
            Why not subtropics ??

            With subtropical ice in the Odessa port !!
    2. knn54
      knn54 17 November 2019 08: 42 New
      +3
      Something tells me that not ALL boats will be at the border guards.
      Another "model" of the armored car, now Avakov boats in "chocolate".
    3. donavi49
      donavi49 17 November 2019 09: 16 New
      +7
      Well, they have an epic proposal within the framework of rich researchers (those who are looking for all kinds of ships / treasures at the bottom of the sea) - Ocea Nemo 50 ICE. They promise an Antarctic certificate.


    4. Den717
      Den717 17 November 2019 09: 52 New
      +3
      Quote: GKS 2111
      Well, a stranger decision than the decision to purchase French patrol boats for the needs of Ukraine is not even possible to imagine. Why?

      Nothing strange. In the practice of the work of companies, all European inclusive, “thank” the key figures who contributed to the conclusion of the contract. Do you need to decrypt? Also, contracts were concluded with Boeing-Watermelon for the supply of aircraft to Russia, for example. Commercial bribery works flawlessly. A donkey loaded with gold takes any fortress.
  4. rich
    rich 17 November 2019 07: 06 New
    +13
    FPB 98 has a speed of up to 35 knots and has a cruising range of 1200 nautical miles (at a speed of 12 knots). Armament: 30 mm DS30B artillery mount. There is a search boat. The crew is 14 people.








    1. Victor_B
      Victor_B 17 November 2019 07: 10 New
      +4
      Well, everything is better than Poroshenko’s armored horses!
      1. 210ox
        210ox 17 November 2019 07: 43 New
        +2
        I think that it’s better than the ugly scrap metal recently delivered. In any case, they will be newer.
    2. Thrifty
      Thrifty 17 November 2019 07: 29 New
      +3
      With such boats, they will do us nasty things in the same Sea of ​​Azov. ..
      1. Gray brother
        Gray brother 17 November 2019 08: 21 New
        +3
        Quote: Thrifty
        With such boats, they will do us nasty things in the same Sea of ​​Azov. ..

        Madey ... Meydey ...
    3. Gray brother
      Gray brother 17 November 2019 08: 29 New
      +2
      Quote: Rich
      . Armament: 30 mm DS30B artillery mount.

      In terms of armament, I would not rush things.
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 17 November 2019 09: 11 New
        +5
        These are options. There are modular slots. Algeria wanted to put him an 30mm gun. Ukrainians can try to put their combat module on the idea.
        1. Gray brother
          Gray brother 17 November 2019 09: 16 New
          +1
          Quote: donavi49
          Ukrainians can try to put their combat module on the idea.

          If the conditions of the contract stipulate this, then yes, otherwise they may be slightly bent in terms of the guarantee and previously free will be paid.
          1. donavi49
            donavi49 17 November 2019 09: 18 New
            +4
            Well, localization is possible about this - France delivers a boat without armament (and in politics it focuses on this in negotiations with Russia), and in Odessa / Nikolaev, the combat module is screwed to it.
            1. Gray brother
              Gray brother 17 November 2019 09: 23 New
              0
              Quote: donavi49
              Well localization is possible about it

              It may well be.
    4. bistrov.
      bistrov. 17 November 2019 08: 45 New
      +2
      Quote: Rich
      Crew - 14 man.

      Already 14 people !!! Where are they all placed there and what are they doing? I remember that on the atomic submarine of the Lira project, the crew was only 30 people ...
      1. Gray brother
        Gray brother 17 November 2019 09: 11 New
        +2
        Quote: bistrov.
        Already 14 people !!!

        Well, there the inspection team should be in theory. This is just the number of seats on the yacht, I think so.
      2. den3080
        den3080 17 November 2019 10: 41 New
        +2
        Quote: bistrov.
        Quote: Rich
        Crew - 14 man.

        Already 14 people !!! Where are they all placed there and what are they doing? I remember that on the atomic submarine of the Lira project, the crew was only 30 people ...

        one steers, the second looks through binoculars, two more on substitution.
        the rest cut fat, cowboy and other appetizers, place bottles with a vodka ...
    5. Jarserge
      Jarserge 17 November 2019 09: 44 New
      +4
      Ukraine wants to put in an anti-ship missile laughing
    6. Rzzz
      Rzzz 17 November 2019 23: 50 New
      0
      Quote: Rich
      speeds up to 35 knots and has a cruising range of 1200 nautical miles


      It should be clarified that these parameters correspond to different modes of movement. Such a range can be achieved in an economical mode, about 8-10 knots. At full throttle, the range will be 300 miles maximum.
  5. Masha
    Masha 17 November 2019 07: 08 New
    +6
    approved the purchase of twenty patrol ships (boats) of the French company OSEA.

    and they will be happy! laughing
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 17 November 2019 07: 34 New
      +1
      Masha hi love I don’t know about their happiness, but they will create a lot of problems for us. ..
      1. Masha
        Masha 17 November 2019 07: 40 New
        +10
        come on....
        and they will create a lot of problems for us. ..

        nobody can compare with such problems that we create for ourselves! Through hardship to the stars!!! wink love
        1. Rusland
          Rusland 17 November 2019 08: 17 New
          +2
          hi The main thing is not to go left and be a wonderful family man. yes
          1. Masha
            Masha 17 November 2019 08: 23 New
            +4
            Vitaliy, howdy there! love
            Quote: Rusland
            hi The main thing is not to go left and be a wonderful family man. yes

            so don’t go! all in your hands! legs, pants .... recourse
            1. Masha
              Masha 17 November 2019 08: 34 New
              +4
              about!!!! someone without left and can’t imagine life .... laughing immediately minus flew .... laughing
              1. novel66
                novel66 17 November 2019 09: 41 New
                +4
                Masha! love Yes, people are still alive !! (minus - not mine) lol
          2. novel66
            novel66 17 November 2019 09: 42 New
            +6
            Vital hi and going to the left can be a wonderful family man lol
            1. Mouse
              Mouse 17 November 2019 09: 44 New
              +4
              Shot ... everywhere ripened? lol
              1. novel66
                novel66 17 November 2019 09: 45 New
                +5
                is it really everywhere you’re ready ... I’m old fat and lazy crying
            2. Rusland
              Rusland 17 November 2019 14: 33 New
              +2
              Quote: novel xnumx
              Vital hi and going to the left can be a wonderful family man lol

              Roma hi So I went to the left, under the guise of a summer cottage, I need to take readings from the electric meter, I decided to leave the litter on the pike in the bay, and then there was ice and chill. yes
  6. Mouse
    Mouse 17 November 2019 07: 12 New
    +3
    just wondering...
    The contract value is 136,5 million euros, of which 85% of the funds will be provided by France as a loan.

    forgive or collectors will beat out? recourse
    1. novel66
      novel66 17 November 2019 09: 42 New
      +4
      collectors are NATO ??? laughing Basil! hi
      1. Mouse
        Mouse 17 November 2019 12: 05 New
        +4
        Quote: novel xnumx
        collectors are NATO ??? laughing Basil! hi

        And then! That one racket .... wink hi
  7. Provincial-m
    Provincial-m 17 November 2019 07: 17 New
    +4
    Shameful damn it ..! Then they will start buying black soil in the geyropa ..
    1. Masha
      Masha 17 November 2019 07: 54 New
      +5
      Quote: Provincial-M
      Shameful damn it ..! Then they will start buying black soil in the geyropa ..

      I’ll finish the thought ... first they will sell, then they will buy their own .... and it’s clear that with the markup is not small .... wink
      1. Provincial-m
        Provincial-m 17 November 2019 08: 41 New
        +3
        Quote: Masha
        I’ll finish the thought ... first they will sell it, then they will buy their own .... and it’s clear that the wrap is not small ..

        This is what Masha meant! hi On the outskirts, it has already reached the point that they are forbidden to produce fat there (they quietly hide for sebe there)
        And they buy rubber from Poland, etc. This is no longer funny. Ugh damn
      2. novel66
        novel66 17 November 2019 09: 44 New
        +4
        they have a great teacher ... from Kiev, by the way
  8. jonht
    jonht 17 November 2019 07: 18 New
    +5
    Mm yes, the country where the best Soviet shipyards are left is being bought by French patrol boats ....
    Well, the next change of mind ....
    1. Tersky
      Tersky 17 November 2019 08: 58 New
      +9
      Quote: jonht
      Mm yes, the country where the best Soviet shipyards are left is being bought by French patrol boats ....
      These are the consequences ....
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 17 November 2019 09: 09 New
      +3
      No shipyard can handle such a boat for 1 million euros. France agreed to lend 85% of the purchase only on French soil.
  9. askort154
    askort154 17 November 2019 07: 20 New
    +4
    " - said the Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Arsen Avakov ... "

    The Minister of All Police, and the National Bats of All Ukraine - Avakov, still decided to create a mosquito fleet. It's time for him to assign another title - "Fleet Admiral". yes
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 17 November 2019 07: 59 New
      +3
      Before that, he had also initiated the purchase of Euro-helicopters. And, like in the same place, in France. So also General de Avicien "can be appropriated!))
  10. Thrifty
    Thrifty 17 November 2019 07: 26 New
    +3
    That is, at least 20 new admirals will appear in their fleet .... laughing
  11. Professor
    Professor 17 November 2019 07: 29 New
    +5
    But this is the edge. Can't even build patrol boats?
    1. Avior
      Avior 17 November 2019 07: 52 New
      +1
      I was also surprised.
      But there are nuances - boats for border guards are needed, but there is no money for them.
      And the French give money for them.
      . the offer of OSEA was the most cost-effective for Ukraine and the needs of the STSU, while France proposed a comprehensive approach to credit financing and agreed to partial localization, 25% of production in Ukraine.

      In addition, it is noted that the ships will be manufactured on marine aluminum, so they will be lighter and more maneuverable.
    2. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 17 November 2019 08: 01 New
      +2
      Boats for border guards are being built. I read an article about a year ago. But less displacement. In Kiev, it seems they are building, not on the Poroshenko's smithy, but someone else ...
      1. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 17 November 2019 08: 16 New
        +2
        Here, by the way, I found. UMS 1000. But they are smaller and seemingly without stationary weapons.
    3. Provincial-m
      Provincial-m 17 November 2019 08: 43 New
      -1
      Quote: Professor
      But this is the edge. Can't even build patrol boats?

      Thanks to your fellow tribesmen who settled in Kiev .. angry
    4. Maverick78
      Maverick78 17 November 2019 09: 00 New
      +1
      I don’t even know what to answer ... on the one hand, building such a live should not be a problem. And on the other hand, now, apart from the television raids, they are not really creating anything else.
      1. abc_alex
        abc_alex 17 November 2019 09: 54 New
        0
        I think this is the key question in the 85% loan. And from the French banks.
    5. donavi49
      donavi49 17 November 2019 09: 07 New
      +4
      No one can offer a better offer - 15% of the cost = for 20 million euros = 20 of large boats. Credit - then they will give it as a thread.
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    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 17 November 2019 07: 58 New
      +2
      Quote: Silvestr
      Where is the greatness of Soviet Ukraine?


      In fact, the USSR stopped whaling in the 1987 year, when “Soviet Ukraine” returned from its last voyage. After that, the floating base was converted into a fishing vessel, and on 31 on July 1995 it was decommissioned and subsequently dismantled for metal in the Turkish city of Aliaga.
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 17 November 2019 08: 05 New
        +5
        Quote: mordvin xnumx
        "Soviet Ukraine"

        one of my teachers went to the doctor on it. Then getting into the fishermen was prestigious. It was interesting to listen to his stories about the share of the ship's doctor, but I would not go
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 17 November 2019 08: 21 New
          +1
          Quote: Silvestr
          one of my teachers went to the doctor on it.
          Lucky. There, only women fellows worked ... My dad also went to the Sea of ​​Okhotsk.
          They waited for Valera for a day, but he did not appear. The foreman with a gun appeared and told what it was not necessary to tell. And so everyone guessed.

          Passing by the fishing port, the "bankers" saw a moored vessel - the Soviet Russia floating base, which had just returned from an oh ... long voyage. Just ooh! The population of this floating city was on 90% Evami. The remaining 10% were Adams who surrendered to the Serpent. Many Ev and Evushka stood on the utah of this mastodon and sang at passing to financiers: "Rather, the lion will refuse meat than the girl from the caress of the sailor."

          Valera flinched, the foreman went into resonance. Valera ran up the ladder, the guard rushed after him. For Valera? For a sealed briefcase? For resonance, forgetting about resonance! Such a compromiser ... Agreed. Better this way.

          Well, there, on the ship, did they have a Muslim paradise? Yes paradise! But without virgins.

          Both were immediately captured and dragged away. A day later, the foreman, as inexperienced, managed to break free and crawl to his own, but without a briefcase. With a gun ... with a crooked barrel.

          An expedition from the starpom was immediately equipped for Valera. The expedition worked for two days and found Valera, but did not receive the “bonus”. The briefcase was lost in a series of dozens of cabins, which changed the midshipman. He also drank, bastard. Therefore, he did not remember anything. He lay in the cabin, moaning and getting ready for Lynch's trial. The prosecutor's office seemed to him a kindergarten.

          But beauty saves the world. She saved Valera ... from the prosecutor’s office.

          Three graces stood on the pier and asked the watchman to call the commander of our ship. They drew so modestly the legs of the forty-third size on the asphalt, drawing an arc around the leather briefcase.

          - Citizen captain, we brought you money. Everybody there! And a thousand more girls gathered from above. You give us only Valerychik for a couple of days more ...

          Gave ... for ten days ... to the guardhouse. They cured there.

          https://e-libra.ru/read/525322-charli-charli-bravo.html
          The same whalers.
          1. New Year day
            New Year day 17 November 2019 08: 34 New
            +4
            Quote: mordvin xnumx
            Lucky. In the same place, only women worked ...

            And about that too laughing
      2. Provincial-m
        Provincial-m 17 November 2019 08: 47 New
        +1
        Quote: mordvin xnumx
        and on July 31, 1995 it was decommissioned and subsequently disassembled for metal in the Turkish city of Aliaga.

        Well, I’ll add my own .. Right heart bleeds ..

        We will judge for all this! soldier
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 17 November 2019 09: 04 New
          +1
          Quote: Provincial-M
          We will judge for all this!

          Soviet Russia was also cut into needles in 90. A couple of years later.
          1. Provincial-m
            Provincial-m 17 November 2019 09: 42 New
            +1
            Quote: mordvin xnumx
            Quote: Provincial-M
            We will judge for all this!

            Soviet Russia was also cut into needles in 90. A couple of years later.

            So I read for a long time, the new aircraft carrier under construction in the outskirts of the Outskirts sold to the Chinese for a couple of boxes of whiskey and 100 thousand dollars .. They drank a week with the "generals" and the girls ..
            PS China rose precisely in the 90s, in technology and military power! There is something to think about for all of us Orthodox Slavs hi
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 17 November 2019 09: 55 New
              +1
              Quote: Provincial-M
              So I read for a long time, the new aircraft carrier under construction in the outskirts of the Outskirts sold to the Chinese for a couple of boxes of whiskey and 100 thousand dollars ..

              Ours are good too. Chinese spies even bought a charter.
              - What are you afraid of! What is your salary? And you are offered three hundred “bucks”, and this is only one point in the combat charter of an aviation unit! No risk! Moreover, this is no longer a secret! You see! Good people offer such money that you share information with them.

              Major Alexander Artyukhov was able to convince. But captain Vadim Nikolaev could not understand what his colleague wanted from him.

              - Wait a minute. I didn’t understand, - I could not understand Nikolaev in any way. - What people? What kind of money? Who needs this charter?

              Artyukhov, having confidentially moved along with the chair, almost whispers in his friend's ear:

              - Do not be afraid! Reliable people. No kidalov. I know them for a long time, there haven’t been any problems yet. Why are you staring at me? Did you see a spy? All spies in Moscow are sitting in the Arbat military district! All secrets have long been sold to the States or China. They are rowing money with a shovel, and we count every penny! Take a moment, do the "grandmother"!

              https://military.wikireading.ru/57332
              1. Provincial-m
                Provincial-m 17 November 2019 16: 51 New
                +1
                Quote: mordvin xnumx
                Ours are good too. Chinese spies even bought a charter.

                Bakatin especially and Kalugin in his advisers bastard .. negative Well, then Kozorevs, Kokhi, Chubaysky, etc.
                Creatures .. negative And ebn danced in orchestras led by the laughter of the international community ".. Burn in hell
  13. Nycomed
    Nycomed 17 November 2019 07: 39 New
    +1
    And will palm oil be settled with French?
    1. evgen1221
      evgen1221 17 November 2019 07: 45 New
      +1
      No-land, organisms and bodies of divinchas. But rather they will generally forgive whom they owe.
      1. Nycomed
        Nycomed 17 November 2019 07: 52 New
        0
        And what the hell to the French of their "divine"? They themselves have this "good" ...
        1. The leader of the Redskins
          The leader of the Redskins 17 November 2019 08: 04 New
          +3
          Have you seen these French and, in general, European beauties ?! I traveled around Europe a little ... For a long time I could not understand why the Poles were considered beautiful. I visited Germany, I realized ... Hungarians, by the way, where have not gone yet ....
          1. Nycomed
            Nycomed 17 November 2019 08: 07 New
            0
            There are all kinds of things ... As they say: "for every taste and budget." bully
    2. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 17 November 2019 07: 51 New
      0
      Quote: Nycomed
      And will palm oil be settled with French?

      Chernozem. wink
      "Here you have black soil, here you have alumina!" fellow Will Ukraine be a sea power. laughing
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 17 November 2019 08: 08 New
        +5
        Quote: mordvin xnumx
        Chernozem.

        last liquid commodity. Villagers will rush to cities or pitchforks.
    3. Zeev Zeev
      Zeev Zeev 17 November 2019 08: 56 New
      -1
      No, there will be cotton wool. And the straw. And honey.
    4. Rzzz
      Rzzz 17 November 2019 23: 56 New
      0
      Will be calculated land for "new Israel"
  14. mag nit
    mag nit 17 November 2019 07: 46 New
    0
    And who will give loans and debts? Is the Cabinet of Ukraine really?
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 17 November 2019 08: 06 New
      0
      Quote: mag nit
      And who will give loans and debts? Is the Cabinet of Ukraine really?

      They are trying to solve financial claims and arrears at the expense of Russia - the whole court of arbitration plows them day and night "for a small fraction" ... Then a statement came from Kolomoisky, the sponsor of Zelensky, recently - Kolomoisky proposed taking $ 100 billion from the Russians for friendship.
      As one friend of mine said: “They wanted to,” distinguishing the grandfather from the grandmother’s organ, “frustrated me.”
      Celery Anatomy ... fool
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 17 November 2019 09: 05 New
      +1
      Russia is the same. The tricky plan is that when the European courts win, and Russia refuses to pay, transfer this credit burden to offsetting. That is, let the Europeans knock money out of Russia, arrest and sell property - and with this money Ukraine will repay the loan.
  15. Olgovich
    Olgovich 17 November 2019 07: 50 New
    +1
    due to treasury loans Ministry of Finance of France. The loan is provided by the state of France. 15% is paid by Ukraine from the budget. 85% loan funds

    French bastards: arm psychopaths against Russia ...
    1. prior
      prior 17 November 2019 09: 39 New
      +1
      Not only the French are scraping their used Ukraine scrap. There, both Americans, and British, and Canadians, and half of Europe were noted ... To sell to Ukraine is much more profitable than to utilize it ourselves.
    2. Antares
      Antares 17 November 2019 12: 01 New
      0
      Quote: Olgovich
      French bastards: arm psychopaths against Russia ...

      Crazy border guards?
      This is something new.
      Armament is not for the Navy, but border guards.
  16. Andrei Gurov
    Andrei Gurov 17 November 2019 08: 17 New
    +3
    The parking lot in Kerch needs to be expanded.
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 17 November 2019 10: 48 New
      0
      Why, the ukrov boats were given, they did not take money for storage. I am generally shocked by our leaders in the supreme power. I don’t know for whom they work, but certainly not for Russia.
  17. cniza
    cniza 17 November 2019 08: 17 New
    +3
    Ukraine buys twenty French patrol boats


    And when the aircraft carriers built ...
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner 17 November 2019 08: 36 New
      +3
      Not she built, but the Soviet Union.
      1. cniza
        cniza 17 November 2019 08: 42 New
        +3
        This is understandable, but they still have production and which way they chose ...
        1. Prisoner
          Prisoner 17 November 2019 08: 46 New
          +2
          It seems that the staff squandered, there are no young specialists, it’s hard to motivate the old people to work for the sake of the “unforgettable”! Devastation. hi
          1. cniza
            cniza 17 November 2019 08: 49 New
            +4
            The comrades-in-arms came to power and they don’t need an industrial power, they need territory that is at war with Russia and they are successfully promoting it.
  18. Prisoner
    Prisoner 17 November 2019 08: 35 New
    +1
    "Boats should be delivered within three years with partial localization of production in Ukraine ..." (c) Partial localization is a paint shop or something else?
  19. Zeev Zeev
    Zeev Zeev 17 November 2019 08: 53 New
    0
    Damn, here our Israeli shipbuilders burst. Could sell boats Shaldag or even OPV-62 to Ukraine.
  20. 2 Level Advisor
    2 Level Advisor 17 November 2019 08: 54 New
    0
    Well .. now 13 admirals will have 20 boats ..
  21. rocket757
    rocket757 17 November 2019 09: 04 New
    +1
    Those. chocolate pan from supplies pushed back!
    But it’s nothing that everything there still has its own industry, even so, but it worked. Well, I’ve overcome it!
  22. prior
    prior 17 November 2019 09: 34 New
    0
    No, well, what ... A normal boat, to drive poachers in shallow water.
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner 17 November 2019 09: 55 New
      +1
      Wait! laughing They will go to them on the Medium Sea. Their admirals are awesome. As soon as the old tubs are cooked for them, they are immediately eager to maintain support in the Mediterranean. laughing
  23. phair
    phair 17 November 2019 09: 38 New
    0
    In Japan, such a boat (almost new) costs a maximum of 300-000 bucks with a guarantee of the hull, pihl and rotary columns. But he drank and drank in storage. Without weapons, but with Achilles-pdthm vfibyf hipalon ribbons!
  24. K-50
    K-50 17 November 2019 10: 11 New
    +1
    Ukraine buys twenty French patrol boats

    Where did the money come from, Zin? belay
    And, probably, of those that are being squeezed out of Gazprom. lol
  25. Cruel beaver
    Cruel beaver 17 November 2019 10: 14 New
    0
    and how many boats will "go left"? and how soon?
  26. Ros 56
    Ros 56 17 November 2019 10: 17 New
    0
    Will they be calculated in kind? This is how many girls they will need to send to the panel in France?
  27. Penetrating
    Penetrating 17 November 2019 10: 53 New
    0
    Good, patrol boats, fast. The case is aluminum. The combat module will most likely be put on the one put on small armored boats of the Gyurza project.
  28. Romanenko
    Romanenko 17 November 2019 12: 11 New
    0
    So soon there will be a lot of boats in Ukraine and there will be no money left at all.
    As a result, Somalia will change its geographical location ....
    1. Rzzz
      Rzzz 18 November 2019 00: 01 New
      0
      By the way, as a pirate, it’s great to attack unarmed ships. Acting against any ship larger than the rook is uniform suicide.
  29. Piramidon
    Piramidon 17 November 2019 12: 14 New
    0
    But Russia does not attack and does not attack request .
  30. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 17 November 2019 13: 02 New
    0
    Quote: -Barmaley-
    Something tells me that everything is bad with geography, for example, the climate in Sochi and Odessa is subtropical.

    Something tells me that winter temperatures even in Odessa are near-zero and even lower. The patrol must be at sea and in snowfalls. And on boxes with partitions of iron and without heaters will seem hard labor. In dampness, cold, vertically, and the inability to bring the temperature in the cockpit to normal. To put a potbelly stove? - This is the way out. And with the song: "The fire is beating in a cramped stove ...."
    1. Pandiurin
      Pandiurin 17 November 2019 15: 07 New
      +1
      These boats are also sold in the tropics. Aluminum is one of the best thermal conductivity metal. If there was no thermal insulation, then on a hot tropical day a thermal shock is guaranteed for 30 minutes inside. So thermal insulation should be.
      And in addition to the air conditioner, put the stove on the solarium, as on passenger buses there is probably nothing complicated. Again, "localization" and grandmother for it.
    2. Rzzz
      Rzzz 18 November 2019 00: 12 New
      0
      On yachts Webasto put in simple cases. When everything is done in an adult way, then the central climate control system.
  31. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 17 November 2019 13: 19 New
    0
    Quote: Antares
    Quote: Olgovich
    French bastards: arm psychopaths against Russia ...

    Crazy border guards?
    This is something new.
    Armament is not for the Navy, but border guards.

    Pogranitsy, of course, are completely independent there, and in no way obey the Ukrofascists.
  32. Berkut24
    Berkut24 17 November 2019 14: 46 New
    0
    I'm afraid to ask - are 20 boats more seaworthy than 1? Or are these the next estuary and river fighters smoked on paper with cigarette smuggling?
  33. NF68
    NF68 17 November 2019 16: 28 New
    0
    Why buy from the French when you can wait until the Americans once again decide to get rid of the old torn-off US Navy decommissioned? It’s cheaper for Americans to pass this junk to Ukraine than to give it up for scrap.
    1. Rzzz
      Rzzz 18 November 2019 00: 15 New
      0
      Americans like aircraft carriers are considering writing off ... belay belay belay belay
      1. NF68
        NF68 19 November 2019 16: 20 New
        0
        Quote: rzzz
        Americans like aircraft carriers are considering writing off ... belay belay belay belay


        So they can push them to the great "power."
  34. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 17 November 2019 16: 38 New
    0
    Quote: Pandiurin
    These boats are also sold in the tropics. Aluminum is one of the best thermal conductivity metal. If there was no thermal insulation, then on a hot tropical day a thermal shock is guaranteed for 30 minutes inside. So thermal insulation should be.
    And in addition to the air conditioner, put the stove on the solarium, as on passenger buses there is probably nothing complicated. Again, "localization" and grandmother for it.

    If the kubrick is below water level, then the heat can be tolerated. With air on the surface +30, below, of course, is almost equal to the temperature of water- +18.
    In January in Odessa, if it’s -10 in the air, then the temperature below is almost equal to the water temperature- +7. Good rheumatic and budding environment.
    And, do not forget the question asked at school in grade 3 - "What happens if you put a fur coat on a snow woman? Does it melt?"
    And finally. In the tropics on boats, do northerners serve who are not used to the heat?
    I read that in Africa, in mines that mine diamonds, at a depth of 3 kilometers, underground heat is already in the region of +60 degrees, and only locals work there. White can't.
  35. Alexy
    Alexy 17 November 2019 16: 46 New
    0
    And what does the Minister of the Interior have to do with the purchase of boats for the Navy ???
    1. Avior
      Avior 18 November 2019 00: 52 New
      0
      This boat is not for the navy
  36. Dmitry Donskoy
    Dmitry Donskoy 17 November 2019 21: 01 New
    +1
    Found a new way to get loans yes
  37. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 17 November 2019 21: 11 New
    0
    A loan secured by what? Russophobia is not quoted as a guarantee, and the country has 404 more and nothing.
  38. cat Rusich
    cat Rusich 17 November 2019 23: 47 New
    0
    In the "credit" Ukraine (or A. Avakov bully ) could buy 200 ... 2 boats good
  39. yfast
    yfast 18 November 2019 13: 39 New
    0
    7 more breakthroughs are planned in the Sea of ​​Azov?