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Philippines sees Su-30 as one option for its Air Force

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Philippines sees Su-30 as one option for its Air Force

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The Philippines considers the Russian Su-30 fighter to be one of the contenders for victory in the tender announced by the country's Air Force.

According to Janes, the Ministry of Defense intends to choose and purchase one of four types of multi-role fighters to strengthen the country's air force in the field of air defense and border protection. Currently, the Air Force command chooses from four options: Eurofighter Typhoon, Lockheed Martin F-16 Fighting Falcon, Su-30 (Flanker) and Saab Gripen.

It was these fighters that were named and shown on slides by a senior official from the Philippines Department of Defense during a press conference at the military. The selected aircraft will be purchased to complement the South Korean-made KAI FA-50PH Fighting Eagle fleet.

The official noted that the acquisition memorandum had already been worked out for approval at the Ministry of National Defense level, and that government funding for the launch of the project is expected in either the first or second quarter of 2020.

Note that until the 2017 year, the Philippines, along with Brunei, remained the only states in the Asia-Pacific region that never bought Russian weapons. However, with the advent of President Rodrigo Duterte, Manila began to actively show interest in establishing military-technical cooperation with Moscow. As Duterte explained, "when Russia sells weapon, it does not impose any conditions ", unlike the United States.

The first contract Russia signed with the Philippines was an agreement to supply RPG-7В grenade launchers and shots to them. Russian weapons arrived in the Philippines in July this year.
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  1. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 16 November 2019 13: 58 New
    +4
    If pulled financially, then this will be the right choice.
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 16 November 2019 14: 06 New
      -3
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      If pulled financially, then this will be the right choice.

      He is the cheapest of the proposed.
      1. kjhg
        kjhg 16 November 2019 14: 21 New
        +4
        Aron, Swedish Gripen, probably, it will be cheaper both in cost and in maintenance. Only here, by combat characteristics, it is the weakest from the list. Let the Filipinos choose what matters to them.
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 16 November 2019 14: 32 New
          +1
          Quote: kjhg
          Aron, Swedish Gripen, probably, it will be cheaper both in cost and in maintenance. Only here, by combat characteristics, it is the weakest from the list. Let the Filipinos choose what matters to them.

          It cannot be. Labor in Sweden is much higher.
        2. knn54
          knn54 16 November 2019 14: 42 New
          0
          Indeed, why go to the light South Korean fighters and Gripen. Su-30 just right. F-16 is not the same. A real competitor, I think. Falcon ..
      2. okko077
        okko077 16 November 2019 20: 08 New
        0
        It is very good that the Su-30 is double! For many countries with a small fleet of combat aircraft, this is an added bonus. After completion of the order for the VKS, the plant began to intensively fulfill orders for friends ...

        https://dfnc.ru/c106-technika/minoborony-planiruet-zakazat-eshhyo-60-modernizirovannyh-istrebitelej-su-30sm/

        It seems to me that there is no need to pause and let out planes before the release of the modernized Su-30SM-1. This can take a lot of time! But we need airplanes. Why change simple Su-27s, there are about 260 more of them that will not be upgraded to Su-27SM3 for 2019 ...
    2. Piramidon
      Piramidon 16 November 2019 15: 22 New
      0
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      If pulled financially, then this will be the right choice.

      If they are allowed. The Philippines are under the Yankees.
  2. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 16 November 2019 14: 02 New
    +1
    From the news feed. In Ukroin transport aircraft handed over the upgraded An 26. We extended the resource and updated the radio and navigation equipment.
    1. Flooding
      Flooding 16 November 2019 14: 05 New
      +2
      Did they write in the news feed?
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 16 November 2019 14: 43 New
        -2
        Quote: Flood
        Did they write in the news feed?

        So they wrote. However, for some reason they forgot to write that the modernized AN-26 is capable of destroying the Russian Federation like the "Death Star" ...... laughing
  3. IL-18
    IL-18 16 November 2019 14: 06 New
    0
    The selected aircraft will be purchased to complement the fleet of light fighters KAI FA-50PH

    Su-30! This is who will complement whom else! But to managers from Rosoboronexport, if they do not sell the Su-30, subtract travel and other expenses from salaries.
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 16 November 2019 14: 32 New
      +8
      I am not a great specialist in international politics, but if the Philippines choose the F-16, it will be at least strange in the light of Duterte’s passages addressed to Matrasia. As for the Su-30, Typhoon and Griffin - let them themselves (not without the help of interested parties wink ) determine their preferences.
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 16 November 2019 14: 46 New
        -1
        Pasha! Everything will be fine!....
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 16 November 2019 14: 48 New
          +8
          Glory, salute! hi
          Quote: sabakina
          Everything will be fine!..

          I do not doubt that . The question is different: who will be fine? wink
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 16 November 2019 14: 53 New
            0
            Pash, this question is for Einstein. The theory of relativity however ... wink
      2. donavi49
        donavi49 16 November 2019 14: 49 New
        +1
        Duterte says yes, while actively ordering:
        Philippine Air Force Acquires 16 Bell 412EPI Helicopters
        The American company Bell Helicopter (part of Textron Corporation) announced its conclusion of a contract for the supply of the Philippine Air Force 16 Multipurpose Helicopters Bell 412EPI. The cost of the contract is not reported. Helicopter supply will be started from the beginning of 2019 year and will be manufactured from the Canadian Bell Helicopter production line.



        Minister of NationalOrons Philippines Delfin LorenzanaTechnical Working Group (TWG) Phillippin Air Force recommended the purchase of 16 Sikosrky S-70 Black Hawk multipurpose helicopters and eight Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI) T129 ATAK helicopters.

        Lorenzana said the ministry will sign a contract for the purchase of Black Hawk helicopters at the beginning of 2019. The minister also said that the Russian side was proposing "second price offer"with the supply of 16 Mi-171 helicopters, but what"it would be difficult for us to pay for them due to US sanctions".
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 16 November 2019 14: 56 New
          +5
          Quote: donavi49
          it would be difficult for us to pay for them due to US sanctions

          Standard "horror story" from the "honest" competitors-mattresses. negative
        2. Kasym
          Kasym 16 November 2019 16: 30 New
          +4
          Donavi49, as far as I know, Duterte hacked this deal into 16 turntables. In Wiki, Philippine Air Force, this is indicated. hi
  4. maidan.izrailovich
    maidan.izrailovich 16 November 2019 14: 13 New
    +4
    I hate palm oil. am
    But apparently, the main agricultural crop in the Philippines is rice.
    So in Russia there will be a lot of rice. crying
    1. kjhg
      kjhg 16 November 2019 14: 25 New
      +4
      Quote: maidan.izrailovich
      I hate palm oil.

      Get used to it, because now it is shoved into everything. By the way, the EU plans to completely abandon palm oil. Indonesia threatened that in return it would refuse to import cars from the EU.
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 16 November 2019 14: 56 New
        +2
        Quote: kjhg
        Indonesia threatened that in return it would refuse to import cars from the EU.

        AvtoVAZ does not yawn --- exchange cars for oil!
      2. Nycomed
        Nycomed 16 November 2019 16: 14 New
        +2
        There is enough rickshaw!
      3. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 16 November 2019 21: 05 New
        -2
        Because, palm oil is made from the STEM of a coconut tree,
        unlike coconut oil, which is made from the fruit of coconut palm -
        Coconut Already better, although edible is, strictly speaking, only
        coconut juice. smile
        Applesauce, for comparison, is made from the fruit of an apple tree - an apple,
        and not from the BARREL of the apple tree. laughing
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 16 November 2019 21: 55 New
          +2
          Quote: voyaka uh
          Because, palm oil is made from the STEM of a coconut tree,

          vegetable oil obtained from the meaty part of oil palm fruits
    2. Vadivak
      Vadivak 16 November 2019 14: 48 New
      +7
      Quote: maidan.izrailovich
      I hate palm oil.

      There is no other. Milk in the past, on store shelves "products with partial replacement with vegetable fats"
    3. Nycomed
      Nycomed 16 November 2019 16: 15 New
      0
      And now there is little rice in Russia? A lot, and a lot of it is Russian.
  5. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 16 November 2019 14: 23 New
    0
    Filipinos, my advice to you, take the Su-30, you will not lose!
  6. Dmitry Gundorov
    Dmitry Gundorov 16 November 2019 14: 24 New
    0
    The Philippines can consider anything, the fact is that they will buy what they are allowed to
    1. Charik
      Charik 16 November 2019 14: 31 New
      0
      who will they ask permission from?
      1. Dmitry Gundorov
        Dmitry Gundorov 18 November 2019 17: 30 New
        0
        It is not they who will be allowed to ask whether the USA will allow them or not.
  7. Charik
    Charik 16 November 2019 14: 26 New
    +1
    Duturte wanted a 30x oil change
  8. Charik
    Charik 16 November 2019 14: 30 New
    0
    why would he need drug addiction planes and you can hammer from helicopters
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 16 November 2019 14: 53 New
      +1
      Their Muslims are rebelling. The communists are rebelling. Maravi was not so long ago. Where they bombed even from the old Bronco. For there is nothing more.

  9. janeck
    janeck 16 November 2019 14: 33 New
    +6
    I read today how the Americans are pressing Egypt for the SU-35. I think there will be the same scenario. Threat of sanctions, etc.
    1. Charik
      Charik 16 November 2019 15: 24 New
      0
      look at how Duterte speaks about the president’s Amer, I think he swore at Obama
  10. Nycomed
    Nycomed 16 November 2019 16: 13 New
    +3
    "Note that until 2017, the Philippines, along with Brunei, remained the only states in the Asia-Pacific region that never bought Russian weapons."
    And Singapore, Australia, Papua New Guinea, New Zealand, Fiji, Vanuatu, Nauru?
  11. Nycomed
    Nycomed 16 November 2019 16: 18 New
    +2
    And who are the Philippines going to fight with? They have their own internal problems with Islamist guerrillas. And in this case, they need helicopters (of different classes) and Tukano-type aircraft.
  12. paul3390
    paul3390 16 November 2019 18: 29 New
    0
    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    He is the cheapest of the proposed.

    If you consider that the Philippines need to control huge sea areas, you will first have to pay attention to the range and use of anti-ship missiles .. And here the Su-shka clearly wins against the svej. Like all the other participants. Su with the same Bramos - a head start will give anyone a rail in actions at sea ..
    1. Nycomed
      Nycomed 16 November 2019 20: 15 New
      0
      And in this case, patrol planes will be more important for them. Of our only Be-200.
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 16 November 2019 20: 31 New
        0
        You can’t establish air control over the Be-200s over islands. But Su-shkami - yes.
        1. Nycomed
          Nycomed 16 November 2019 20: 37 New
          0
          Do they have pirates and smugglers already in the air "rule the ball"?
          1. paul3390
            paul3390 16 November 2019 21: 08 New
            0
            No. But there are a bunch of birdies with neighbors such as Vietnam and China for the islands in the South China Sea. And not only.
            1. Nycomed
              Nycomed 16 November 2019 21: 19 New
              0
              So they will lose the war in the air in any way, that of China, that of Vietnam. The first: because the forces are simply incommensurable, and the second: for the same reason + the experience of the Vietnamese in a war in the air. Well, if the Philippines has a large excess of palm oil ... They can afford it.
    2. Nycomed
      Nycomed 16 November 2019 22: 02 New
      +1
      You can recommend the MiG-31, with a suspended "Iskander", called, for some reason, "Dagger".
  13. NBV
    NBV 16 November 2019 19: 23 New
    0
    The Philippines does not have a border dispute with anyone in this sense, they need not a plane for close air combat, but a patrol and air polis plane. Those. they need an inexpensive airplane. In my opinion, they will choose Gripen. Which, both in cost and in operating costs, is more economical and inexpensive. And if necessary, with missiles "Meteor" and "Iris", he may collide with an air enemy. He can also work with Sea Venom and Braimstone on marine targets.
  14. paul3390
    paul3390 16 November 2019 19: 57 New
    0
    Quote: NBV
    Philippines have no border dispute with anyone

    And Bodalovo for the islands in the South China Sea? If that - you can’t do without aviation over them ..
  15. paul3390
    paul3390 16 November 2019 22: 15 New
    0
    Quote: Nycomed
    they will lose the air war anyway

    Maybe they will lose. But the very fact of the presence of long-range Su-shek with modern anti-ship missiles is a weighty argument for any showdown with neighbors. Even at the diplomatic level .. Just with such a country - you have to at least somehow reckon with it ..