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MiG-29K carrier-based fighter crashed in India

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MiG-29K carrier-based fighter crashed in India

MiG-29K Indian Navy. Archive photo


Indian naval forces lost another plane. According to the representative of the Indian Navy, Vivek Madhwal, the MiG-29 ship fighter, performing a training flight, suffered a disaster.

The MiG-29K Indian Navy fighter crashed in Goa during a training flight. According to the Navy, a preliminary cause of the fall was the ignition of the engine after a bird got into it. Both fighter pilots ejected, their further fate is not reported. The plane took off from the INS Hansa air base in Dabolim.

During the training flight, the engine of the MiG-29K training aircraft took off, taking off from the INS Hansa air base in Dabolim

- the official statement says.


According to a spokesman for the Indian Navy, the plane crashed in an “open and safe” territory, which helped to avoid destruction and casualties on the ground. Since the flight was training, the plane took off without ammunition.

Upon the fact of the fall, a special commission will be created, which will establish all the circumstances of the incident.
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Indian Defense Ministry
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  1. Zoomlion
    Zoomlion 16 November 2019 12: 53
    -18
    For Indians, arba and tuk-tuk, probably the most suitable transport :)
    1. Nycomed
      Nycomed 16 November 2019 12: 57
      -3
      A combat fighter is not a transport.
      1. IL-18
        IL-18 16 November 2019 13: 26
        +4
        And in general, how to look at these, by the way, frequent plane crashes and accidents? Well this is how much they have a raid on every pilot! It seems to me that the level of the Indian Air Force is very, very high. You can sneak about dancing and gypsies, but they have everything seriously, and many air forces are very far from them.
        This is me because they fly a lot, it means they need a lot of spare parts and consumables. Those. Our arms sellers need at least a carcass, at least a dummy, but make the MiG-35 the pride of the Indian Air Force. And if the pilots are alive, but I would really like to, then MiGs in the situation with birds in the air intake receive a very important plus with sensible marketing.
        1. cniza
          cniza 16 November 2019 13: 44
          +4
          I myself don’t know, but they told me that when carrying out technical work and maintenance they have a big problem with observing the regulations and their quality performance, but here the bird ...
          1. IL-18
            IL-18 16 November 2019 13: 58
            +4
            Quote: cniza
            here is a bird ...

            That's it!
        2. URAL72
          URAL72 16 November 2019 13: 50
          -2
          Now, at military parity, the Jews, led by the Yakut, will dance and vilify everything Russian.
          1. IL-18
            IL-18 16 November 2019 13: 56
            +2
            Quote: URAL72
            Jews led by Yakut will dance and vilify everything Russian

            So, Russian ornithologists will teach migratory birds to spend wintering near Israeli airfields yes So that the citizens you mentioned do not shine or star.
            1. gmb
              gmb 16 November 2019 14: 34
              +3
              Birds fly through Israel for the winter, many stay in Hula, such a reserve, and cranes all over the country create beauty. Ignorance does not need to be proud.
              1. Vadivak
                Vadivak 16 November 2019 14: 52
                +1
                Quote: gmb
                Ignorance does not need to be proud.

                There are occasions in life that only stupidity can help get out of it. F. Laroshfuko wink
                1. IL-18
                  IL-18 16 November 2019 15: 11
                  -1
                  Quote: Vadivak
                  F. Laroshfuko

                  Read in the original? Or statuses from social networks?
                  1. Vadivak
                    Vadivak 16 November 2019 20: 53
                    +3
                    Quote: IL-18
                    Read in the original? Or statuses from social networks?

                    I have been living for a long time
              2. IL-18
                IL-18 16 November 2019 15: 06
                +2
                Quote: gmb
                Ignorance does not need to be proud.

                In my comment I did not indicate the wintering of birds in Israel. There about the prospects.
                Inattention is dangerous, including for life.
                1. gmb
                  gmb 16 November 2019 17: 02
                  +2
                  What are the prospects, if for many years they have been flying and will fly. When the cranes flock, the beauty is indescribable. I wish everyone to contemplate such beauty and not to think any stupidity wink
                  1. IL-18
                    IL-18 16 November 2019 19: 27
                    +1
                    I am also a romantic, therefore, we will send pigeons from my yard. Even if they do not fly into the air intakes, then the lanterns of the f-35 cabs will not be washed off. bully
  2. Nycomed
    Nycomed 16 November 2019 12: 57
    -5
    If the pilots are alive, then Thank God! One question: did the birds hit two engines at once? If not, then what is the advantage of twin-engine fighters?
    1. ochakow703
      ochakow703 16 November 2019 13: 04
      -1
      So it is written "combustion". The Indians, without hesitation, pulled the catapults ... Press-press, however.
      1. figwam
        figwam 16 November 2019 15: 13
        +2
        A thick white footprint at low altitude - this is how kerosene pours, if the bird is big, it must have severed the blades when it hits the engine, and if it flew with the fuselage fuel tank, it was cut.
    2. askort154
      askort154 16 November 2019 13: 28
      +7
      Nycomed ... One question: did the birds hit two engines at once? If not, then what is the advantage of twin-engine fighters?

      A fire in an airplane in the air is the most dangerous emergency on board. Therefore, regardless of the number of properly operating engines, if the fire-extinguishing system has not eliminated the "fire", then the situation goes from emergency to catastrophic. The crew leaves the aircraft, having previously directed it to an area of ​​less safety for the "population".
      On civilian aircraft, it is more difficult - the crew cannot leave the plane, but is obliged to take every opportunity for an emergency landing, including outside the airfield. In such cases, as a rule, to avoid a catastrophe - the chance is close to 0. yes hi
      1. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter 16 November 2019 13: 36
        +6
        Alexander hi
        Upon the fall, a special commission will be created, which will establish all the circumstances of the incident.

        Well at least they did not rush to conclusions. And then there were precedents and you yourself know who was blamed. wink
        1. cniza
          cniza 16 November 2019 13: 46
          +4
          It would not be bad to attract our specialists. Greetings! hi
          1. bouncyhunter
            bouncyhunter 16 November 2019 13: 47
            +4
            Victor, salute! hi
            Quote: cniza
            to attract our specialists

            This may directly depend on the preliminary findings of the commission. wink
        2. askort154
          askort154 16 November 2019 14: 05
          +3
          bouncyhunter ..... Well, at least they did not rush to conclusions. And then there were precedents and you yourself know who was blamed.

          Pasha, in principle, there cannot be 100% objective conclusions of the crash commissions. Aircraft - a bunch of technology, hundreds of thousands of products. In every product there is a human factor. Therefore - up to 70% of accidents and catastrophes, falls on the human factor. In this case,
          bird contact is a clear cause. And the crew’s further actions are
          a consequence, on which sometimes depends more than on the cause. hi
      2. Andrey NM
        Andrey NM 16 November 2019 15: 04
        +3
        My friend and I entered military schools at the same time. I'm in the naval, he is in the flying. He then flew the MiG-29. He said that if an engine failure occurs at an altitude of 500-700 meters, then without hesitation it is necessary to "hit the handles", i.e. catapult. You just don't have time to do anything. Are there fighter pilots? Didn't he deceive me?
        1. NN52
          NN52 16 November 2019 18: 02
          +5
          Andrey NM (Andrey)

          What kind of failure? Fuel Automation? Surge? Engine fire? Something else?
          There are a lot of nuances ... and there is no need to "jump" thoughtlessly, it is fraught with it ... And there is a second engine on board >>
          You apparently misunderstood your friend ....
          1. Andrey NM
            Andrey NM 18 November 2019 05: 32
            0
            Quote: NN52
            You apparently misunderstood your friend ....

            Well, I'm not a pilot, so I can only talk superficially on this topic. Our conversation took place in June 91, our vacation coincided. I then had a long vacation after two consecutive autonomous systems, ran over to hold the ship, was assigned to other crews, and the sanatoriums were "attached" to me for a total of 117 days. The USSR has not yet collapsed. My comrade served in the Mukachevo area. While on vacation, he received a call and said that their twin had crashed due to engine (or engines) failure, both pilots died. And in our division then there were fresh events on the first "Begemot", this is the first unsuccessful attempt to fire a full load of ammunition from a submarine of Project 667BDRM. In short, we shared our impressions.
            After the collapse of the USSR, their regiment began to be persuaded to swear Ukraine, in fact blackmailing with the fact that if they did not take the oath, they would remain without housing. Someone accepted, and someone tried to transfer to Russia. Most of them quit as a result; they were not needed in Russia either. Those who remained, still remained without housing, their regiment was thrown under Kiev. My comrade went to the Ministry of Internal Affairs, retired as a lieutenant colonel.
            And as for the engine failure, my grandfather (a fighter pilot, flew from 1936 of the year, started in an aero club, before 1961 of the year, graduated from MIG-17) told me that in their regiment on the MIG-15, the pilot was able to reach km from 10 altitude airdrome more than 80 km and sat safely. Somehow he was even awarded for this.
      3. loki565
        loki565 16 November 2019 15: 07
        +2
        Perhaps the dispatcher received an order to eject. If they didn’t immediately put out the engine, they decided to play it safe and catapulted as in this video.
  3. Atlant-1164
    Atlant-1164 16 November 2019 13: 00
    -8
    take away the entire fleet from the Indians and all (read 1) aircraft carriers !! let transplanted on gzhevy transport .. war elephants and buffaloes!
  4. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 16 November 2019 13: 12
    +3
    Let's hope that the pilots survived.
    1. faridg7
      faridg7 16 November 2019 15: 22
      0
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Let's hope that the pilots survived.

      So it is written - crashed. We are waiting for a new revival of the followers of the teachings of the satan-dharma (at least there is no other information in the article)
  5. Bookcase
    Bookcase 16 November 2019 13: 54
    -1
    Generally - a strange problem with birds for military aircraft. Is it really impossible to make an active drop device for the air intake? Or something that during normal operation will cover from birds, but somewhat reduce the efficiency of traction. And during military operations - it will be possible to fully open.
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 16 November 2019 14: 16
      +3
      Quote: Librero
      Generally - a strange problem with birds for military aircraft. Is it really impossible to make an active drop device for the air intake?

      Why only for the military? Civilians suffer no less from this, and there are many more victims. So far, they haven’t come up with anything effective how to disperse the runners over the runway. If you can offer something concrete, the Nobel Prize is provided to you. hi
      1. Bookcase
        Bookcase 16 November 2019 15: 39
        0
        One of the possibilities is the internal active shutter. If a dangerous object is approaching the air intake of a foreign object, briefly let the air flow pass along another, less efficient but safe path, closing the main hole. Then - return to its previous position.
        With civilian aircraft - everything is more complicated. They are big and heavy. Therefore, with traction - there may be problems.
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 16 November 2019 15: 59
          0
          Quote: Librero
          internal active shutter. If a foreign object is dangerously close to the air intake, for a short time let the air flow pass along another, less efficient but safe path, closing the main hole. Then - return to its previous position.

          Like a Nobel pulls. Do you already have specific developments, or just fantasize? Describe in more detail in the application for the award. lol
          1. Bookcase
            Bookcase 16 November 2019 16: 12
            +2
            So it all starts with fantasy. Only here some get bonuses, while others ...... :-)
          2. Vadivak
            Vadivak 16 November 2019 20: 54
            +2
            Quote: Piramidon
            Do you already have specific developments, or just fantasize?

            Expensive, refused
    2. Vadivak
      Vadivak 16 November 2019 15: 02
      +4
      Quote: Librero
      air intake rejection device

      protective device (mesh) VZ Su-27 aircraft,
      1. Bookcase
        Bookcase 16 November 2019 15: 48
        +1
        Any obstruction to air flow - reduces engine efficiency. Of course - you can make the most profitable form using the appropriate formulas. But in any case, this is a simple but not the best solution.
      2. Piramidon
        Piramidon 16 November 2019 19: 08
        0
        Quote: Vadivak
        Quote: Librero
        air intake rejection device

        protective device (mesh) VZ Su-27 aircraft,

        This net is used only for taxiing on the ground so that any crap from taxiing does not get into the air intakes. In the air, it will gobble up half the power of the engine.
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 16 November 2019 20: 55
          +2
          Quote: Piramidon
          This net is used only for taxiing on the ground so that any crap from taxiing does not get into the air intakes. In the air, it will gobble up half the power of the engine.

          Nevermind, cleaned when cleaning the chassis
  6. Piramidon
    Piramidon 16 November 2019 14: 12
    +1
    Both fighter pilots ejected, their further fate is not reported.

    Let's hope that they were saved and they will be found.
  7. knn54
    knn54 16 November 2019 14: 27
    +1
    People. How many similar cases are described. and no one pity ptah.
    However, we are hardened.
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 16 November 2019 14: 51
      +2
      Hope it's a "humor joke"
    2. Vadivak
      Vadivak 16 November 2019 20: 56
      +3
      Quote: knn54
      People. How many similar cases are described. and no one pity ptah.

      Come on. Sorry ... bird. Shurik also spoke
  8. janeck
    janeck 16 November 2019 14: 36
    +6
    there will be a holiday on the Indian street. as the saying goes "hard in training, easy in battle"
  9. parkello
    parkello 16 November 2019 17: 54
    +1
    actually on the MiGs there are nets on the air intakes. when they take off, they rise and no bird can climb through them .. even if everything in the liquid soap is bathed ... Indians stir something. No. these problems with birds in the USSR were drunk by pilots and designers so much that the first thing they did was equip the air intakes with nets .. it’s because of the birds, to avoid getting duck mallards in the engine. mallards fly so low that they can get into the engine on take-off ... it seems to me that their technicians have twisted their wise handles ... and dump them on birds. for some reason I remembered a monkey with a grenade winked
  10. Dmitry Donskoy
    Dmitry Donskoy 16 November 2019 17: 57
    0
    Quote: IL-18
    Quote: URAL72
    Jews led by Yakut will dance and vilify everything Russian

    So, Russian ornithologists will teach migratory birds to spend wintering near Israeli airfields yes So that the citizens you mentioned do not shine or star.

    So here can also be attributed schools of migratory fish for submarine fighting fellow
  11. rocket757
    rocket757 16 November 2019 18: 12
    +3
    It’s good that the cows don’t fly .... otherwise they would be left completely without aviation.
  12. Zeev Zeev
    Zeev Zeev 16 November 2019 23: 45
    0
    I'm not a big specialist in engines, but it seems that when a bird hits, the jet engine wedges, and does not light up. And the fire extinguishing system should be.
    1. Avior
      Avior 17 November 2019 00: 11
      0
      The blades come off and fly wherever they fall