Pompeo explained the difference between recognition of the Golan and non-recognition of Crimea

Pompeo explained the difference between recognition of the Golan and non-recognition of Crimea

The United States recognizes the Golan Heights as the territory of Israel and does not recognize Crimea as the territory of Russia because there are "obviously different factual circumstances." This was stated by US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.


Answering a question about how Washington’s support for Israel’s annexation of the Golan Heights to the condemnation of the “Russian annexation” of Crimea, Mike Pompeo said that “the situation is obviously different.” In the case of Israel in Washington, "simply recognized history".

The situation is obviously different, and we spoke very clearly about this when the decision was made (on the recognition of the Golan Heights). We simply recognized the reality on earth and the history that existed in this particular place.

- he said.

According to the head of the State Department, there are many “controversial places” in the world and each has its own “factual circumstances”. However, he did not explain exactly what “circumstances” were in favor of recognizing the Golan as Israeli and against recognizing Crimea as Russian.

There is a set of international norms and concepts, there are factual circumstances that contradict them, and where these norms are built, we must recognize them

- He said, adding that it is with this logic in the United States that they see the difference between the Golan Heights and the Crimea.

Recall that in April this year, US President Donald Trump signed a declaration recognizing the Golan Heights as Israeli territory.

The Golan was occupied by Israel in 1967 during the six-day war with Syria, and in 1981 Tel Aviv unilaterally declared them its territory. The UN recognizes the Golan Heights as occupied territory.

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  1. Spartanez300 16 November 2019 06: 19 New
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    It's all about the personal hostility of the United States to Russia. It contradicts itself, Russia and the Crimea have just realities on land and history in a particular place. So what is captured by military operations is normal, but what was integrated peacefully is bad. Here he once again outlined the logic of the United States in this regard. Well, they don’t get used to the history of acting in this way, at least take the Indians, drove the people from their ancestral territories and appropriated all their land to themselves, forcing them forcibly into the reservation.
    1. ML-334 16 November 2019 06: 29 New
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      In my opinion, it is not hostility but the benefit — Russia is becoming more sovereign and this limits the lawlessness of the United States and therefore they are setting everyone against Russia.
      1. rich 16 November 2019 08: 07 New
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        The United States recognizes the Golan Heights as the territory of Israel and does not recognize Crimea as the territory of Russia because there are "obviously different factual circumstances." This was stated by US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.

        Of course, they are different - Crimea voluntarily entered the Russian Federation through a referendum, and the Golan exactly the opposite laughing
        1. Vladimir16 16 November 2019 08: 23 New
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          Golan territory of Syria. The Syrians need to drive the Jews from there with a filthy broom.
          1. Binder 16 November 2019 12: 21 New
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            Quote: Vladimir16
            The Syrians need to drive the Jews from there with a filthy broom.

            Yeah, the race just did not grow. laughing And, apparently, it will never grow - the Golan is forever the territory of the state of Israel, the train has long gone and the rails have been dismantled. hi
            1. okko077 16 November 2019 13: 48 New
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              If we assume that the United States will lose its power and influence in the distant future, then Israel will immediately be covered with a “copper basin” ... It will not only give the Golan, but also half of its territory to Palestine ... Let them pray for PI-ndosov ...
              1. Vitaly gusin 16 November 2019 13: 57 New
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                Quote: okko077
                Assuming that the United States loses its power and influence in the distant future,

                And if we assume that the grandmother in the not too distant future, she will be GRANDFATHER laughing
                1. okko077 16 November 2019 14: 11 New
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                  Yeah, the Roman Empire was also eternal ... Dream ... A country whose inhabitants even have brains floating in fat, and live at the expense of interest on contributions from grandfathers, and spend more than they have, will not last long ..
                  1. Vitaly gusin 16 November 2019 14: 33 New
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                    Quote: okko077
                    Yeah, the Roman Empire was also eternal ...

                    I already answered this today
                    But personally for you again
                    Mark Twain;
                    “If the statistics are correct, Jews make up no more than a percent of humanity. This suggests an almost invisible lump of stardust, lost in the bright light of the Milky Way. Actually, Jews should not be heard, but they make themselves known we have heard and continue to hear about them.They stand out among any people, their place in the economy, their importance is immeasurably higher than the place and value of any other equally small people.Their share in the list of great names of world scale in literature, science, art, music , financial activity, medicine, the latest discoveries is not proportional to the proportion of Jews among other nations, it is much broader and richer.They are Jews, at all times - in battle, in battle with the whole world, and in this battle they can only rely on themselves, since no one will support them, and they are fighting not for life but for death, and they can be forgiven, no matter what means they use in this fight. The Egyptians, Babylonians, Persians created world powers, solemnly and noisily declared their power to the whole planet, then melted like smoke, and died; Greeks and Romans inherited their loud glory and also went into oblivion; other nations arose, temporarily raising their flaming torch, but it burned, leaving only sparks, and sometimes they burned down. (He still did not know about the empire of the USSR) The Jews saw them all, and now they are the same as they always were: for centuries not knowing decline or weakness; their influence, their role in the life of the peoples among whom they lived, never diminished their energy, mobility and sharpness of mind, just as now. Everything in the world is mortal, but not Jews. Everyone, even the strongest, leaves - they remain.
                    What is the secret of their immortality? "

                    Can you answer?
                    1. okko077 16 November 2019 14: 52 New
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                      Only you forgot Slavs. Jews are just a speck of dust in their history .. And their religion is slavish, like their origin. You just look at all this from the standpoint of common sense, from the side ..
                      The ancient Slavic calendar has more than 600000 years .. According to the latest reckoning, which is associated with the victory over the Chinese, now 7527 year. Year Soaring eagle ! Handsomely...
                      1. Vitaly gusin 16 November 2019 15: 02 New
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                        Quote: okko077
                        Красиво.

                        Just wonderful.
                        Only he does not know this.
                      2. Binder 16 November 2019 15: 20 New
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                        Quote: okko077
                        The ancient Slavic calendar has more than 600000 years .. According to the latest calendar, which is associated with the victory over the Chinese, now is 7527. Year of the Soaring Eagle! Handsomely...

                        Bullshit on a moonlit night. lol
                      3. kiril1246 16 November 2019 22: 31 New
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                        Quote: okko077
                        600000

                        I did not know that the Slavs had occurred before Neanderthals. Thanks for the info.
                      4. voyaka uh 16 November 2019 23: 47 New
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                        "The ancient Slavic calendar has more than 600000 years" /////
                        -----
                        Cool, congratulations! So primitive people did not come from
                        great apes, as scientists think, and from the ancient Slavs.
                        good
              2. Binder 16 November 2019 15: 25 New
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                Quote: okko077
                Israel will immediately be covered with a "copper basin" ... It will not only give the Golan, but also half of its territory to Palestine ... Let them pray for PI-ndosov ...

                Israel quite successfully lived, fought and developed without US government support, and often opposed Washington’s openly hostile position until the end of the 60s, and you are offering to pray here. hi
                1. okko077 16 November 2019 16: 41 New
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                  Enough of profanity. Tell your tales to kindergarten children. What kind of state support are we talking about if, according to some estimates, up to 80% of banking and other financial assets in the United States belong to Jewish families?
                  1. Binder 16 November 2019 16: 49 New
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                    This is for you, dear man, thinking at the kindergarten level. You primitively believe that all Jews in the United States are supporters of Israel, and this is far from the case. As an example, we can recall the presidential candidate Bernie Sanders, who, being a Jew, is by no means a friend of Israel. And there are plenty of people like him in America.
                2. Playerman 16 November 2019 17: 51 New
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                  Quote: Bindyuzhnik
                  Israel quite successfully lived, fought and developed

                  This is where you unearthed such nonsense?
                  1. Binder 16 November 2019 19: 58 New
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                    Nonsense, darling, this is what you have in mind, and I quite objectively described the twenty-year period in the history of the state of Israel. Study the materiel and do not forget that silence is gold. hi
                    1. Crimean partisan 1974 17 November 2019 06: 13 New
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                      a twenty-year period in the history of the state of Israel ....... come on, and who is Ivanka Trump's husband? It looks like a robust chukha itself, just like the whole Trump empire. ...
                      1. Binder 17 November 2019 17: 14 New
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                        What are you talking about, dear, what side does Ivanka and her husband have to the topic? The indicated period did not have them in the project either. request
                      2. Crimean partisan 1974 18 November 2019 12: 01 New
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                        What are you talking about, dear, what side does Ivanka and her husband have to the topic? .... very much to the point, the Trump empire originated precisely from the means of the seon, well, according to the thumb, the loot of the seon in Fort Knox, as long as there are striped there are
                  2. Playerman 17 November 2019 12: 04 New
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                    Twenty year period what . And even a seventy-year-old, it’s about nothing, If it weren’t for the declaration of independence of Israel on May 14, 1948 and the Jewish lobby in SGA, you would have neither successful development, nor successful wars. "Study the materiel and do not forget that silence is gold." hi
                    1. Binder 17 November 2019 17: 32 New
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                      Here you are right at all 150% - if the Zionists, through a long struggle for the revival of the state of Israel, would not have achieved independence on May 14, 1948, then there would be no talk of any successes in economic and military.
                    2. Crimean partisan 1974 18 November 2019 12: 05 New
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                      for the revival of the state of Israel they would not have achieved ........ the military-industrial machine achieved independence, or rather chopped off a piece of land in the BV as hands and ears for Zionist bucks, so for now, as there is
        2. SOF
          SOF 18 November 2019 07: 09 New
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          Quote: Bindyuzhnik
          the train is long gone and the rails dismantled

          ..... no matter how they descended on tanks .... they do not need rails ... lol
          1. Binder 18 November 2019 17: 18 New
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            This is problem
            Quote: SOF
            no matter how they descended on tanks

            - warehouses of captured equipment in Israel are already clogged ... bully
    2. Sergey M. Karasev 16 November 2019 09: 37 New
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      Of course, they are different - Crimea voluntarily entered the Russian Federation through a referendum, and the Golan is exactly the opposite laughing

      But, in the United States, there is a strong Jewish lobby, but there is no Russian. Therefore, they recognize precisely the capture of the Golan, and not the annexation of Crimea.
      1. kiril1246 16 November 2019 22: 34 New
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        Quote: Sergey Karasev
        But, in the United States, there is a strong Jewish lobby, but there is no Russian.

        Because nowhere in the world is there a stable Russian community. Russians abroad are instantly assimilated.
        1. Sergey M. Karasev 17 November 2019 07: 13 New
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          Because they leave and settle in another country separately, and not heap, they do not support communication with each other, they do not form diasporas. There are no Russian quarters abroad, unlike Jewish, Chinese, etc.
    3. Polite Moose 16 November 2019 09: 56 New
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      Quote: Rich
      Crimea voluntarily through a nationwide referendum entered the Russian Federation, and the Golan exactly the opposite

      The logic in evaluating the p-s of these events is very simple. Exactly the same as the male view of the family on adultery: When Israel annexed the Golan, it is WE ... And when Russia returned Crimea, it is US ...
      1. novel66 16 November 2019 10: 15 New
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        painful and insulting
      2. orionvitt 16 November 2019 12: 10 New
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        Quote: Polite Moose
        The logic in evaluating the p-s of these events is very simple.

        Where as simple, try to understand this bird language of modern democracy. I read three times to understand what this coryphaeus of democratic America said. Here we admit, it’s not here, but here it seems to be partially, like in Ukraine. And not because I'm stupid, but I'm used to talking in essence. Now play, then do not play, but here, we wrapped the fish. It’s called, I brought you notes.
    4. knn54 16 November 2019 12: 13 New
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      We are waiting for the opus "Selected / Electoral History" from M. Pompeo.
    5. 4ekist 16 November 2019 14: 22 New
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      Crimea has always been Russian, not Khokhlyatsky. There can be no other way.
      1. Good_Anonymous 16 November 2019 22: 02 New
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        Quote: 4ekist
        Crimea has always been Russian


        And before that he was Tatar.
    6. Vitaly gusin 16 November 2019 15: 26 New
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      Quote: Rich
      Of course, they are different - Crimea voluntarily entered the Russian Federation through a referendum,

      Who was born in the USSR knows that they also went to the collective farm voluntarily
      Quote: Rich
      Golan exactly the opposite

      And here you are not mistaken
      Bible Deuteronomy 4:43
      “The three cities chosen by Moses were: Betzer on the plains belonging to the tribe of Reuben, Ramoth in Gilead, belonging to the tribe of Gad, and Golan in Vasan belonging to the tribe of Manasseh. "
      1. Vitaly gusin 16 November 2019 22: 30 New
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        [quote = Vitaly Gusin]Bible Deuteronomy 4:43
        “The three cities chosen by Moses were: Betzer on the plains belonging to the tribe of Reuben, Ramoth in Gilead, belonging to the tribe of Gad, and Golan in Bashan, belonging to the tribe of Manasseh. "[/ Quote]
        Is this the cons of the Bible? laughing
  • Mikhail Drabkin 16 November 2019 08: 44 New
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    You write Spartanez300
    It's all about U.S. personal hostility towards Russia

    -There is nothing personal in it: America is a rival to Russia in any configuration, with the exception of Russia depending, vassalism on America. Do not expect reasonable answers. They think they should ... exceptional ...
    —- And this is never to happen!
    -Pompeo does not say the main thing: the power of the Jewish elite in America. Who wants to get involved with Schiff, Hoer, Sumer, Nadler, Engel ... on Congress Committees working on impeachment of Trump. Moreover, in matters of geopolitics, the interests of the Israeli and Jewish elites of America are increasingly diverging.
    —- After the peak of any - there is always a decline. The Jewish elite of America really believes that it speaks on behalf of the American people .... my Jews forgot the lessons of the German Weimar Republic ... and in fact do not respect the laws of dialectics ..
    1. Ural-4320 16 November 2019 09: 38 New
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      I don’t agree with the phrase "America is Russia's rival." Where is the rivalry when there is the usual verbal abuse? Well, there is no other word. It looks from the side as if 2 boxers are facing the ring in front of the ring, one blinks incessantly that he will tear the opponent, the second silently looks, and then bang - transfer of the battle due to itching in the finger of the vyakala.
  • Pessimist22 16 November 2019 06: 24 New
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    Recognized the story? What about US history?
    1. nikon7717 16 November 2019 08: 57 New
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      Quote: Pessimist22
      Recognized the story? What about US history?

      The journalist probably needed to recall the various territories that the United States itself forgot to return, admitting to themselves, for example, with a line about renting Alaska, and much more.
      1. Pessimist22 16 November 2019 09: 01 New
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        Texas was taken from Mexico.
      2. Bukhalov 16 November 2019 16: 29 New
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        Quote: nikon7717
        Quote: Pessimist22
        Recognized the story? What about US history?

        The journalist probably needed to recall the various territories that the United States itself forgot to return, admitting to themselves, for example, with a line about renting Alaska, and much more.

        Well, why post legends? Selling Alaska
        America, Russia clearly got excited. Well, it wasn’t more expensive .... Who then knew that there was gold-diamonds, and not permafrost. It happens. But why should individual emotional visitors to the VO site be misled about Alaska's rental? They are already misled about Israel. Since the time of the struggle against Zionism, the poisoned instrument of imperialism. So the church lands in Jerusalem belonging to the Russian Orthodox Church, Khrushchev in the early 60s sold to oranges to Israel. What has fallen from the cart is gone. drinks
  • Cryvedco 16 November 2019 06: 27 New
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    Different factual circumstances? Need to remember. Ingenious excuse will be
    1. RideMaster 16 November 2019 06: 34 New
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      Yes, it's easier to say - these are completely different things, you do not understand.
      1. Cryvedco 16 November 2019 07: 17 New
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        Well, this is better in conversation, but in some documents ...
  • RideMaster 16 November 2019 06: 33 New
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    And what about the great Kurdistan, are they there? Historically support?
    I think it’s time for us to support Great Kamanchia, historically it is completely justified.
  • Astronaut 16 November 2019 06: 38 New
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    just recognized history

    What story ? The United States with its history does not reach 250 years, and Israel is even an order of magnitude less!
    1. Revolver 16 November 2019 07: 38 New
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      The history of Israel is approximately 3500 years, counting from the Exodus from Egypt. And if from Abraham, then all 4000. And the fact that there were breaks is not important. And if you think that is important, then the history of Russia begins not earlier than from Ivan III, but what was before him was just an outlying Tatar ulus.
      1. Astronaut 16 November 2019 07: 47 New
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        The history of the state of Israel began in 1948, and the rest is not important! wink
        And under Ivan III there was already a state, although you do not need to know Russian history! laughing
        1. Revolver 16 November 2019 07: 51 New
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          In this case, the history of Russia as an independent state begins from 1480, and all that was previously not important.
          1. sergo1914 16 November 2019 09: 18 New
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            Quote: Nagan
            In this case, the history of Russia as an independent state begins from 1480, and all that was previously not important.


            Why not since 1991? Or 2000? GDP since 2000. Since its arrival, we will take it.
          2. Good_Anonymous 16 November 2019 11: 42 New
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            Quote: Nagan
            In this case, the history of Russia as an independent state begins with 1480


            Something like that, yes. But, which is characteristic, in this case, Russia is older than Israel smile Not that it was important, but funny anyway.
            1. Demon_is_ada 16 November 2019 14: 06 New
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              Much earlier, much ... just earlier it was a republic, TFR - the Union of the Principality of Russian, then there was a war of liberation and the creation of an already unitary state laughing And we have never had a break in statehood since the days of Arkaim and Kostenok, the organization of the state simply changed ... Well, how is this theory? laughing
              1. Good_Anonymous 16 November 2019 20: 08 New
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                Quote: Demon_is_ada
                Well, how is such a theory?


                This theory does not attract fantasy.
                1. Demon_is_ada 16 November 2019 21: 23 New
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                  Doesn’t it seem strange to you in “Fantasy” called the Tatar-Mongol yoke that all are a few small skirmishes and that’s all? And where are the raids, the liberation from the invaders, the retreat to the Mughal base, and where is this base that could concentrate such strike forces? And the transfer of contingent? Where is the logistics and the way, the Americans at the head of the Nate still can not quickly transfer large quantities? What not to take, then solid fantasy wassat And somewhere there is a real Kulikovo field, by the way, they haven’t found any weapons or skeletons on the modern one, they still argue about standing on the Ugra ...
                  1. Good_Anonymous 16 November 2019 21: 51 New
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                    Quote: Demon_is_ada
                    But it’s not strange for you in “Fantasy” called the Tatar-Mongol yoke


                    Now, it seems, it’s not customary to talk about the “yoke”. Documents contradict this.

                    Quote: Demon_is_ada
                    And where are the raids, the liberation from the invaders, the retreat to the Mughal base, and where is this base that could concentrate such strike forces? And the transfer of contingent? Where is that logistics and ways


                    Everything is generally clear there. On YouTube, there are quite a few lectures by specialists.

                    Quote: Demon_is_ada
                    Americans still headed by the Nate still can not quickly transfer large quantities?


                    What quantities do you consider large? The entire Mongol invasion is a maximum of tens of thousands of people. During the first Gulf War, NATO deployed 250 people in 4 months across 2 oceans.
      2. Flooding 16 November 2019 08: 49 New
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        Did Abraham Form Israel? You are trying to testify.
        1. Evil echo 16 November 2019 13: 37 New
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          Remember in the "Crown of the Russian Empire"
          . You probably know the character biography
          New Testament.
          She goes back to the Old Testament.
          I will briefly recall.
          Abraham begat Isaac
          Isaac gave birth to John.
          John begat Judah
          and his brothers Pharez and Zara
          from Famira.
          Fares gave birth ... Esroma.
          Esrom gave birth to ... Anikadavu.
          Anikadava gave birth ... to nason.
          Nason gave birth to Salmon.
          Salmon gave birth to Boaz from Rahima.
          1. Flooding 16 November 2019 14: 03 New
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            Abraham before Isaac managed to give birth to Ishmael.
            But the Jews do not regard him as their own.
      3. Xnumx vis 16 November 2019 08: 51 New
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        Quote: Nagan
        The history of Israel is approximately 3500 years, counting from the Exodus from Egypt. And if from Abraham, then all 4000.

        Well, yes I remember the Neanderthals Abraham and David ran across the desert. They ate acridas and locusts. Afraid of the executions of Egypt. grazed goats and donkeys. And, here, what would these Davidians have a state the story does not remember ... Wore and wears them around the world. The truth then allowed them to create the state of Dzhugashvili, Joseph Vissarionovich ... Stalin was called to him all over the world ... But then they spat on him and cursed. Thankful Jews .. Although, what to expect from the Neanderthals cunning!
        1. Demon_is_ada 16 November 2019 14: 14 New
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          Yuri, why did Abram And David run? belay Not by the fact that they were hiding from the persecution of the Egyptian police? So maybe it was a state of ancient Egypt? And then anyone but the Jews? Either the Mamelukes, then the Persians, then the Egyptians, then the Romans and moreover took the state from each other lol And if you look at the ancient scriptures in general, it says that Jehovah scattered them around the world ...
          laughing
        2. Lelek 16 November 2019 14: 45 New
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          Quote: 30 vis
          Although, what to expect from the Neanderthals cunning!

          hi
          This question was answered by the great actress, Jewish by birth - Faina Ranevskaya:
      4. Charik 16 November 2019 10: 44 New
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        Well, well, for some reason, the remains of people and their dwellings of a 40000 year old man with bones of mammoths in the Voronezh region, and not in Egypt or Israel and some kind of book-written Avram
      5. Slavs 16 November 2019 10: 56 New
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        There were no breaks in our history ..)) And in yours, it really didn’t matter whether breaks or not ...) The ulus is not an ulus, you lived on your land, and for 40 years you poked around in the desert, looking for where to stumble.
        1. Professor 16 November 2019 13: 24 New
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          Quote: Slavs
          There were no breaks in our history ..)) And in yours, it really didn’t matter whether breaks or not ...) The ulus is not an ulus, you lived on your land, and for 40 years you poked around in the desert, looking for where to stumble.

          1. The USSR is not the Russian Empire. Neither politically, nor legally, nor historically. RF is not the USSR. Neither politically, nor legally, nor historically. They intersect some of the territories.
          2. While we wandered through the desert (did not look for where to stumble, but returning to our land), you did not live in your country since there was no mention of you yet. Something like this.

          Now about the article.
          1. Israel did not occupy the Goln in the 1967 year, but freed them from the Arab occupation.
          2. The Golan (or whatever it is in Arabic) under the mandate of the League of Nations were intended to create a Jewish state and were illegally transferred to Syria. We returned our. In the Golan (or whatever they are in Arabic) there was not a single Arab city.
          3. In 1981, Tel Avv did not unilaterally declare them his territory. Generally announced nothing.
          4. SAR attacked Israel and lost the Golan (or whatever they are in Arabic) as Germany lost East Prussia. Germany no complaints. Not to be confused with Japan, which the USSR attacked and occupied the islands. Ukraine did not attack the Russian Federation.
          5. Israel did not sign a memorandum with the SAR on the territorial integrity of the SAR and did not sign a border treaty. The Russian Federation and Ukraine have signed such documents. Accordingly, Israel did not violate anything, the Russian Federation violated.

          In general, a left-wing article aimed at sowing srach. negative
          1. okko077 16 November 2019 16: 51 New
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            While we wandered through the desert (did not look for where to stumble, but returning to our land), you did not live in your country since there was no mention of you yet. Something like this.

            We have been counting history for more than 600000 years and we know from which ass and when you got out with your tales and scriptures ..
          2. Slavs 16 November 2019 17: 23 New
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            Quote: Professor
            In general, a left-wing article aimed at sowing srach.

            I agree completely. The incoherent speech of Pompeo, Klitschko, Psaki and others like them is nothing more than a reason for violence against the keyboard.
            Quote: Professor
            1. The USSR is not the Russian Empire. Neither politically, nor legally, nor historically. RF is not the USSR. Neither politically, nor legally, nor historically. They intersect some of the territories.
            2. While we wandered through the desert (did not look for where to stumble, but returning to our land), you did not live in your country as there was no mention of you yet.

            And here I completely disagree. Alas.))
            1. Professor 16 November 2019 17: 29 New
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              Quote: Slavs
              And here I completely disagree. Alas.))

              You convinced me with your arguments. : laughing
              1. Slavs 16 November 2019 18: 11 New
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                I did my best )))
              2. not main 16 November 2019 19: 10 New
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                Quote: Professor
                Quote: Slavs
                And here I completely disagree. Alas.))

                You convinced me with your arguments. : laughing

                Do you have any arguments? You, in addition to your (Jewish) opinion, do not recognize. And how do you change shoes in the air? This is generally a picture of a Jew Sokolov!
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            While we wandered through the desert (did not look for where to stumble, but returning to our land), you did not live in your country since there was no mention of you yet.


            When the ancient Semitic tribes recorded this collection of myths, your great-great-great-grandfathers and grandmothers were not yet in the project smile Those tribes are no more you than any antes - we.

            Quote: Professor
            In general, a left-wing article aimed at sowing srach.


            This is yes.
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              When the ancient Semitic tribes recorded this collection of myths, your great-great-great-grandfathers and grandmothers were not in the project yet. Those tribes are no more you than some antes - we are.

              We have one language, one culture, one Gd with those “tribes”. They are us.
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                We have one language with those "tribes"


                That language has not survived. No, Hebrew is not him.

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                one culture


                Not even close smile

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                one Gd


                Jews had many gods in those days smile
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                  That language has not survived. No, Hebrew is not him.

                  Only any Israeli schoolboy calmly reads on it.
                  And you try to give the student the "Word of Igor's Campaign" in the script to read. Will he understand much? "Word" is the 12th century. The Israel Museum (Jerusalem) has texts from the Torah of the 8th-10th centuries BC, carved in stone, written in Hebrew, which can be read easily by any modern Israeli, provided that he knows the Hebrew letters (daats).

                  Quote: Good_Anonymous
                  Not even close

                  In Hebrew, there are loanwords of another Sumerian origin. For example, the word "tarnegol" is a rooster, from the Sumerian "gift lugal" is a royal bird.

                  Quote: Good_Anonymous
                  Jews had many gods in those days

                  You confuse the Jews with their neighbors as pagan Canaanites. The Jews were so different from their neighbors who lived in Canaan that they were monotheists.
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                    That language has not survived. No, Hebrew is not him.

                    Only any Israeli schoolboy calmly reads on it.


                    What is "him" on? If in Hebrew - of course, he reads. But Hebrew is not the language spoken by the tribe that crossed the desert.

                    Quote: kiril1246

                    In Hebrew, there are loanwords of another Sumerian origin.


                    And this proves that the then Jews and the current "one culture"? So in the Russian language there are borrowings from the Scythian, but no one except Blok seriously called the Russians "Scythians".

                    Quote: kiril1246
                    Jews had many gods in those days

                    You confuse the Jews with their neighbors, the pagan Canaanites. The Jews were different


                    It seems to me that you confuse the Jews (people) with the Jews (followers of Judaism). Or for you the concepts of "Jew" and "Jew" are equivalent?
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                      What is "him" on? If in Hebrew - of course, he reads. But Hebrew is not the language spoken by the tribe that crossed the desert.

                      Did you read this with Fomenko?

                      Quote: Good_Anonymous
                      And this proves that the then Jews and the current "one culture"? So in the Russian language there are borrowings from the Scythian, but no one except Blok seriously called the Russians "Scythians".

                      The concept of ancient culture is inseparable from religion. There is an unconditional continuity between the religion of ancient Jews and modern Judaism. Once again, I draw your attention to the found passages of the texts of the Torah from the 10th century BC. And the Qumran texts contain entire books of the Torah.


                      Quote: Good_Anonymous
                      It seems to me that you confuse the Jews (people) with the Jews (followers of Judaism). Or for you the concepts of "Jew" and "Jew" are equivalent?


                      There is such a nation on the globe, Jews, whose religion is NOT Judaism?
                      Jews (descendants of Iver) and Jews are identical concepts. It is clear that there are some Jews who profess other religions, but they are not a separate people.
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                        Did you read this with Fomenko?


                        Now it was a shame. But no, I didn’t read about it from Fomenko.

                        Quote: kiril1246
                        There is an unconditional continuity between the religion of ancient Jews and modern Judaism.


                        Of course. But the professor argued that "we have the same culture with those" tribes. " Not a succession with a distance of 3 thousand years, but "one."

                        Quote: kiril1246
                        Jews (descendants of Iver) and Jews are identical concepts.


                        And then there are no questions. Although no, one more remained - if a person was born in Israel from Orthodox Jews, speaks Hebrew, but (as life has developed) is an atheist - who is he?
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                        Now it was a shame. But no, I didn’t read about it from Fomenko.

                        Well look. On the one hand, there is unconditional evidence of the interaction of Jews in ancient Egypt by the Jews (a story about leaving Egypt), there is evidence from the side of the ancient Egyptians (inscriptions of the Karnak temple and in other places), on the other hand, you exist, an unknown, anonymous author who with a large aplomb, he made a very substantial statement refuting both the religious and scientific position that the tribe that came out of Egypt did not speak Hebrew, but did not provide any evidence. Would you yourself accept such a statement as believable?


                        Quote: Good_Anonymous
                        Of course. But the professor argued that "we have the same culture with those" tribes. " Not a succession with a distance of 3 thousand years, but "one."

                        You can certainly turn to him for clarification, but I suppose that he meant continuity. All the same, the world around us has slightly changed over 3500 years.

                        Quote: Good_Anonymous
                        And then there are no questions. Although no, one more remained - if a person was born in Israel from Orthodox Jews, speaks Hebrew, but (as life has developed) is an atheist - who is he?

                        Atheist or secular?
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                        On the one hand, there is unconditional evidence of the interaction of Jews in ancient Egypt by the Jews (the story of the exit from Egypt)


                        Do you call the Bible "Unconditional evidence"? And ... you probably think that the Holy Spirit dictated it?

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                        I suppose that he meant succession


                        He put it quite categorically - "one." And the language is also one. After 3 thousand years.

                        Quote: kiril1246
                        Atheist or secular?


                        Atheist.
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                        Do you call the Bible "Unconditional evidence"? And ... you probably think that the Holy Spirit dictated it?

                        And where else, besides the Torah, is the Jewish exit from Egypt described?


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                        He put it quite categorically - "one." And the language is also one. After 3 thousand years.

                        One and the same culture does not mean unchanging. Has Russian culture changed since the baptism of Rus? Of course. Is there a continuity of modern Russian culture with Old Russian culture? Of course.

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                        Atheist.

                        Since the existence or absence of Gd is not provable. Atheism - that is, the belief that Gd does not exist, is the same religion as other religions in which the existence of Gd is allowed. Consequently, a Jew who has ceased to believe in Gd remains a Jew, but is considered a religious community, a sinner. In ancient times, he would face severe punishment for this; in the modern city of Israel, this will not affect his lifestyle.
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                        Do you call the Bible "Unconditional evidence"? And ... you probably think that the Holy Spirit dictated it?

                        And where else, besides the Torah, is the Jewish exit from Egypt described?


                        My question was about why you consider the Torah "unconditional evidence." However, the answer is clear.

                        Quote: kiril1246
                        Has Russian culture changed since the baptism of Rus? Of course. Is there a continuity of modern Russian culture with Old Russian culture? Of course.


                        Is Russian culture an old Russian culture? Even the question is ridiculous.

                        Quote: kiril1246
                        Atheism - that is, the belief that Gd does not exist


                        If you want, you can say that.

                        Quote: kiril1246
                        same religion as other religions


                        And this is obviously not the case. No churches, no priests, no prayers, no scriptures, no sinners. And most importantly - no afterlife.

                        Quote: kiril1246
                        a Jew who has ceased to believe in Gd remains a Jew


                        I see. Thanks.
                      6. kiril1246 17 November 2019 00: 29 New
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                        My question was about why you consider the Torah "unconditional evidence." However, the answer is clear.

                        For me, this is unconditional evidence, because I am not an atheist. But in what sources it is written about the exit of Jews from Egypt, except in the Torah, you did not indicate.

                        Quote: Good_Anonymous
                        Is Russian culture an old Russian culture? Even the question is ridiculous.

                        That's your business. I will not argue. You can refuse the history of your culture. We keep our history and culture.

                        Quote: Good_Anonymous
                        And this is obviously not the case. No churches, no priests, no prayers, no scriptures, no sinners. And most importantly - no afterlife.

                        And why then keep the face and body of the leader in the Mausoleum? It is obvious, after all, that if atheism had not been quasireligion, preserving the body of Lenin in the Mausoleum so similar to the ancient Egyptian rite of burial of pharauns would not have made sense. As for the holy writings of atheism: Have you heard of the Capital of Marx? but about the CFL (collected works of Lenin)? separate articles from where they were learned as well as religious dogmas in the seminary. Well, how they treated atheistic sinners (that is, people who served Gd) in the country of victorious atheism is a topic for another discussion. In any case, even in the late USSR, religious sanctions could be carried out for performing religious rituals (baptism, funeral, and just for attending church). And about the early USSR of the 20s-30s it’s generally not worth arguing. See how many monks were shot.
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                        You can refuse the history of your culture.


                        What a cheap twitch.

                        Quote: kiril1246
                        And why then keep the face and body of the leader in the Mausoleum?


                        I have no idea. Perhaps this is some kind of monument. But this has nothing to do with religion - no one believes in the miraculous abilities of Lenin’s body (however, atheists don’t believe in miracles at all).

                        Quote: kiril1246
                        As for the holy writings of atheism: Have you heard of the Capital of Marx? but about the CFL (collected works of Lenin)?


                        You did not notice that for some reason all your alleged evidence of the religious nature of atheism belong to the state ideology of the USSR?

                        Quote: kiril1246
                        And about the early USSR of the 20s-30s it’s generally not worth arguing. See how many monks were shot.


                        This proves less than nothing. You never know whether the Orthodox killed Arians, or Protestant Catholics, or Shiite Sunnis.

                        By the way, the Pharisees with the Sadducees, too, were not fools to cut each other.
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                        I still return to this topic, you did not answer: "But in what sources it is written about the exit of Jews from Egypt, except in the Torah, you did not indicate."

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                        What a cheap twitch.
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                        I do not see any distortion here.

                        Quote: Good_Anonymous

                        I have no idea. Perhaps this is some kind of monument. But this has nothing to do with religion - no one believes in the miraculous abilities of Lenin’s body (however, atheists don’t believe in miracles at all).

                        You did not notice that for some reason all your alleged evidence of the religious nature of atheism belong to the state ideology of the USSR?

                        Atheism is the basis of Soviet ideology. There are no other countries of victorious atheism in the world, except for countries with Soviet ideology.
                        "The teachings of Marx are true because they are true." Have you forgotten how to memorize this at school? How is this different from a religious creed? Nothing.
                        Communism by the 80th year? Separate apartment by 2000m? How do these promises of miracles differ from the promise of a paradise afterlife?


                        Quote: Good_Anonymous

                        This proves less than nothing. You never know whether the Orthodox killed Arians, or Protestant Catholics, or Shiite Sunnis.
                        By the way, the Pharisees with the Sadducees, too, were not fools to cut each other.

                        All the examples you cite only prove my point, because they show that atheism, like other religions, is intolerant of Gentiles. If he were not a religion, then he would calmly relate to those who believe in Gd.
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                        I do not see any distortion here.


                        But it is.

                        Quote: kiril1246
                        Atheism is the basis of Soviet ideology. There are no other countries of victorious atheism in the world, except for countries with Soviet ideology.


                        There are no countries of victorious atheism in the world at all. And by the way, the Soviet government fully cooperated with religious hierarchs, so your statement about the "basis" is false.

                        Quote: kiril1246
                        "The teachings of Marx are true because they are true." Have you forgotten how to memorize this at school?


                        You see, I did not memorize this at school (yes, I entered school and graduated from it in the USSR).

                        Quote: kiril1246
                        "Communism by the year 80? A separate apartment by the year 2000? How are these promises of miracles different from the promise of a paradise afterlife?


                        The fact that these promises were to come true in real life, and not afterlife. Maybe this is precisely why socialism collapsed - unlike religions, its promises can be verified.

                        Quote: kiril1246
                        All the examples you cite only prove my point, because they show that atheism, like other religions, is intolerant of Gentiles.


                        The examples I have cited only prove that atheism as the cause of the massacre can be ruled out.
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                        But it is.

                        And about this (the main topic of conversation)
                        "But in what sources it is written about the withdrawal of Jews from Egypt, except in the Torah, you did not indicate." will there be any reaction? Or count the drain?
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                        And about this (the main topic of conversation)


                        This topic of conversation, if it was the main one, is only for you.

                        By the way, and you will answer directly to this question:


                        do you think that the Holy Spirit dictated it?


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                        Or count the drain?


                        If you want - of course, count.
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                        By the way, and you will answer directly to this question:


                        do you think that the Holy Spirit dictated it?

                        What's the problem? I’m not an atheist, and I believe that the Torah was dictated to Moses by Gd on Mount Sinai for 40 days. But how do you know that Jews came out of Egypt, but did not speak Hebrew? You seem atheist, my friend. So everything written in the Old Testament is a lie for you. Then where did you get that the Jews came out of Egypt, but spoke a different language than Hebrew? Metaphysical riddle. And as an atheist, it’s a sin for you to engage in metaphysics.

                        Quote: Good_Anonymous
                        If you want - of course, count.

                        Drain protected
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                        I believe that the Torah was dictated to Moses by Gd on Mount Sinai for 40 days.


                        It is rare in our time to meet a character who openly admits such a thing. Good day today.

                        Quote: kiril1246
                        But how do you know that Jews came out of Egypt, but did not speak Hebrew?


                        Firstly, I don’t know whether Jews left Egypt or not. No archaeological evidence of the outcome is known; the Bible and Flavius ​​are not evidence. Secondly, if you did not understand - I said that Hebrew is from the time of the exodus and modern Hebrew are two different languages ​​(yes, they are related and the name is the same). Just like the Russian language of the XNUMXth and XNUMXst centuries (only the time difference is many times more).
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                        It is rare in our time to meet a character who openly admits such a thing. Good day today.

                        Come to Israel, here 70% of the population is somehow religious.


                        Quote: Good_Anonymous
                        Firstly, I don’t know whether Jews left Egypt or not. No archaeological evidence of the outcome is known; the Bible and Flavius ​​are not evidence.

                        How can you talk about the language of the outcome, if there was no outcome in your opinion ??? Here, as in a joke, either put on your panties or remove the cross. If there was no outcome, then there was no outcome language, and your reasoning on this topic is not relevant. If the outcome was, then you recognize the correctness of the words in the Old Testament, and your atheism is nothing more than a fiction.

                        I am returning to your first passage.
                        Quote: Good_Anonymous
                        That language has not survived. No hebrew - not he

                        That is, the Jews of the outcome (unless of course it took place) spoke all the same in Hebrew. Only another Hebrew, which unfortunately has not survived to this day. Do I understand you correctly?
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                        Come to Israel, here 70% of the population is somehow religious.


                        Only 70%? Then everything is not as bad as I decided for you and the professor.

                        Quote: kiril1246
                        How can you talk about the language of the outcome, if there was no outcome in your opinion ???


                        Stop fooling around. It was a language of any time to which the outcome relates.

                        Quote: kiril1246
                        That is, the Jews of the outcome (unless of course it took place) spoke all the same in Hebrew. Only another Hebrew, which unfortunately has not survived to this day. Do I understand you correctly?


                        Except for regret, yes.
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                        Except for regret, yes.

                        I already realized that fate brought me to one of the largest Hebraists. Explain to me the following fact: if that language is not preserved, then in what language have Jews prayed every day for several thousand years ???
                        What language is the Torah written in?
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    That language has not survived. No, Hebrew is not him.

    It is he. From right to left. No vowels. The pronunciation has changed and some of the larynx we do not share today. Nevertheless, they would understand us, and we all the more.

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    Not even close

    Just one. Seven-day week is not even religious and Shabbat day off. Kashrut and circumcision (the last among all atheists). Attitude towards family and woman. New Year and the commandments.
    Tell me what you eat and I will tell you who you are.

    Quote: Good_Anonymous
    Jews had many gods in those days

    Of course not. Jews from the time of the forefather of Abraham have one Gd.
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    1. The USSR is not the Russian Empire. Neither politically, nor legally, nor historically. RF is not the USSR. Neither politically, nor legally, nor historically. They intersect some of the territories.

    We have one language, one culture, one Gd with those “tribes”. They are us.

    There are few hypocrites like you.
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      Quote: Sergey Medvedev
      1. The USSR is not the Russian Empire. Neither politically, nor legally, nor historically. RF is not the USSR. Neither politically, nor legally, nor historically. They intersect some of the territories.

      We have one language, one culture, one Gd with those “tribes”. They are us.

      There are few hypocrites like you.

      You are not careful. I have not written anywhere that the kingdom of Judah and the State are one and the same, or that the second is the successor to the first.
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    Israel's history of approximately 3500 years

    I don’t understand how many years the history of the Jews and Israel? Do you think that the Golan can belong to Israel because they once entered the kingdom of Israel?
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      Quote: Nagan
      Israel's history of approximately 3500 years

      I don’t understand how many years the history of the Jews and Israel? Do you think that the Golan can belong to Israel because they once entered the kingdom of Israel?

      Not only that. Even before the creation of Syria, in 1920, the Golan was set aside for the future Jewish state by the decision of the international conference in San Remo. However, the professor described all these stages of the big "Golan way" in his post. And if it weren’t for our eternal Jewish cleanliness and the fear of offending someone, then all the Golan, and not a small part of them, had to be annexed.
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    The history of Israel is approximately 3500 years, counting from the Exodus from Egypt

    Well, here you are, Mr. Foreign Agent ....
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    Your fairy tale and ravings in books, the slave religion of a corrupt entity, somehow does not look against the backdrop of our 600000-year history. And read your story with your uluses to yourself ...
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    . We simply recognized the reality on earth and the history that existed in this particular place.

    So this is just about the Crimea !!!
    Americans open one Pandora's box after another.
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      Americans open one Pandora's box after another.

      What did you want? There are elections in America in a year. In addition, the shit democrats muddied the impeachment story, and one of the accusations against Trump is that he allegedly conspired with the Russians and almost personally with Putin about interference in the 2016 elections, which predetermined the loss of Clintonsha. In such circumstances, the administration is simply forced to maintain a tough line in relations with Russia, even if this is to the detriment of American interests. Dermocrats will immediately file any mitigation as payment for interference in past elections and an advance for the upcoming elections. What to do, politics is a dirty business.
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        What to do, politics is a dirty business.

        Politics - the ability to explain, persuade and negotiate, the skill to find weighty arguments, the habit of using verified (reliable) information and much more, which allows you to not uncover the guns and not load bombs in the compartments.
        And the dirty politics was invented by gnawing politicians who are accustomed to achieve their selfish goals by lies and violence.
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      Like the president’s family
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        not, well, his wife is Slovenian, but the fact that the daughter’s husband is a Jew is nothing at all, and he himself the Indian just faded (he saw the mane like an Apache)
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    just recognized history

    What story ? The United States with its history does not reach 250 years, and Israel is even an order of magnitude less!

    An astronaut and an astronaut! An order of magnitude is 10 times less. What is the history of Israel for 25 years? Jews on those lands (much larger than now) lived 2 thousand years before Christ! Then the invaders (Arabs) lived for centuries these territories. And then they decided to revive Israel - now they already felt sorry for the Arabs - they began to divide the lands.
    And in relation to Crimea-Russia, it has been owned for several centuries, and independent Ukraine is 23 years old. Russia has regained its own! hi
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      For smart mathematicians: Jews are runaway slaves from Egypt and the state they never had until the UN allocated territory after the 2 World War
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      Wow, was such a state of Israel? Until 1949? Do not confuse anything?
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        Wow, was such a state of Israel? Until 1949? Do not confuse anything?

        If we proceed from de jure, then we put it on May 15, 1948. And de facto in the present territory of Israel, the Jewish state never ceased to exist. And this is why .... The Jewish religion, unlike others, contains the entire state forming elements. Any Jewish community living anywhere on the ball was mini Israel. With its local governments and three independent branches of government, including a rabbinical court. Indeed, at the beginning of the 20th century, the Jews of Europe left the towns and began an active process of assimilation. P
        But the State of Israel, by this time, was reformatted in Palestine (until its proclamation in 1948), smoothly moving from religious self-government to secular. As for me, this happened back in the twenties of the last century. And without the help of Comrade Stalin, the most sworn friend of the Jews since B. Khmelnitsky. In a slightly different form, let’s say so. Shavua tov, Slavs!
        ps. Translation, so as not to think what: a good week!
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      Jews on those lands (much larger than now) lived 2 thousand years before Christ!

      Are we talking about the Jews or about the state? So even Europe since the time of the great migration of peoples descendants of the Indians. Well, give Europe to India? And if you dig a little deeper, then they say all the homo-sapiens occurred in southern Africa. Does the whole world belong to South Africa?
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        Well, this is only part of the story, but what happened before bully Indeed, the study of female DNA confirmed this theory ... until they began to examine the male genome ... here an unpleasant story happened crying it turned out that some carriers of a certain genome never left their habitat, and it is older than all the others ... laughing
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      Then the invaders (Arabs) inhabited these territories for several centuries. And then they decided to revive Israel — now they have pitied the Arabs — they began to divide the lands.
      And in relation to Crimea-Russia, it has been owned for several centuries, and independent Ukraine is 23 years old. Russia has regained its

      But this is the right position.
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      Jews on those lands (much larger than now) lived 2 thousand years before Christ!

      That's the archeology in Israel - a division of intelligence, a top secret activity.
      From modern Yemen to Palmyra, the territory was inhabited by nabotees, a people who had three gods: - the god-father, the goddess-mother, and the god-son. Akhenaten created a monotheistic cult, which ended in the metropolis, and remained in Asia Minor. In the 5th century BC Yahweh began to supplant the holy trinity. Which, however, remained in Christianity, only the mother goddess was replaced by the holy spirit. At the same time, those nations that are now Arabs, remained a tribunal, until Mohammed came to Jerusalem and adopted Christianity, which under his arm turned into a wild mixture of Judaism and Christianity. Judaism proved to be a very economical religion, and spread from the Volga to Tunisia and the Hindu Kush. Ashkinazi Jews are Persians in genetics. So 2/3 of modern Jews - the Romans.
      So if anyone finds a family in Israel whose genetic line has not been interrupted for 2,5 thousand years, the Nobel Prize in medicine is guaranteed to him.
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        So if anyone finds a family in Israel whose genetic line has not been interrupted for 2,5 thousand years, the Nobel Prize in medicine is guaranteed to him.

        Have you heard of the cohen? Direct descendants of Aron, the brother of Moses, the first in a row of high priests, on the male line. All with the names Kogan, Cohen, Kaganovich, and other variations on this subject. There was an experiment - they took DNA from cogenes for research. So, as a result, almost all of them, taking into account gene mutations for about 4000 years, have the same Y chromosome, which is transmitted from father to son and not otherwise. All of them have cohen from Europe, Tunisia, Yemen. And even Ethiopia - seemingly natural African Americans tongue , but the chromosome is the same. Those few sharp deviations that cannot be explained by mutations were most likely due to rape or marital infidelity - you never know what could have happened in 4000 years.
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          The direct descendants of Aron, the brother of Moses,

          belay Brother of Moses? Where did the brother thrown into the river, picked up by completely strangers, come from? Was it chipped by birth?
          Also, with the claims of Isa / Jesus to the royal throne of Judea, Joseph vowed that he did not recline with Mary, but claims were announced on the basis that Joseph had in the ancestors of the kings of Judah. laughing
  • taiga2018 16 November 2019 07: 03 New
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    Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems that historically some US territories belonged to Mexico ...
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      Yes. And not only Mexico ...
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        Yes. And not only Mexico ...

        That is, this "diplomat" himself, without knowing it, is laying a bomb, albeit at least in very slow motion ...
        1. SOVIET UNION 2 16 November 2019 07: 45 New
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          The only question is, who will undermine this bomb? And so this bomb has been planted since the founding of this country. Another interesting point. Why is the United States raising these questions? Are they so sinless, or are others so soiled? Or are they under the fifth of the USA? Why does no one dare to ask this question to the states?
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            And there is nobody to ask this question, except us. But from the time of the Romanovs it is customary for us to look back at the opinion of the West. Although there was a short period not so long ago, when they could ask.
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            They are so sinless

            Here the matter, in my opinion, is different — most often there are separatist sentiments in those countries where the living standards are not very high, because it’s hard to imagine that for example, most California residents want to separate from the prosperous USA, on the contrary, for example, Puerto Rico residents refused independence and wanted to be part of this country ...
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              Have you asked the indigenous people of California? Those who are only allowed to be firefighters? Neither the police, nor, God forbid, America - the governor?
              After all, they also have a standard of living - not so hot.
    2. Binder 16 November 2019 07: 35 New
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      And I’m definitely not mistaken - historically, some territories of Russia belonged to other states: Finland, Germany, the Ottoman Empire, Japan, etc. But today no one in Russia is going to return these territories.
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        And I'm definitely not mistaken

        I’ll tell you more, some territories belonged to the Kazan, Siberian, Astrakhan, Crimean khanates, the Nogai Horde, and even earlier to the Khazars, Pechenegs, Polovets ... But none of them claims their rights, and if not, this means the territory of Russia ...
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          none of them claims their rights, and if not, then this is the territory of Russia ...

          And even if presented as the Japanese, then these territories still remain Russian.
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            Quote: Bindyuzhnik
            Japanese,

            And it’s even easier with these, our country fought, our country won and won these lands as the winner, just like the Kaliningrad region ... Nothing prevents the Japanese and Germans from trying to return these territories by the same method ... Let them try ...
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              , our country fought, our country won and received these lands as a winner

              A completely similar situation with the Golan Heights - Israel fought, won and received these lands.
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          none of them claims their rights

          Well, how the Tatars suddenly show? The Chechens presented! Yes, well, Chechens, if they were sitting in their mountains, grazing sheep, and everyone would not care if their independence was not considered a bad blow to the country's prestige. But the fact that the rogues not only presented, but also chopped off the lands of Little Russia historically from Russia, is not only prestige, but also damaging damage to the country's economy and defense.
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            roguli not only presented, but also chopped off from Russia historically it belonged to the lands of Little Russia
            You confuse rogues with the Bolsheviks or with the Austrians. The former chopped off as it was convenient for them to create a temporary state that would lay the foundation for the New World, and there was an equal attitude to Russia, Ukraine, Tajikistan and other republics - as to dying states. Since they should die out towards communism, this is what they decided to fill the content of socialism with. And on the way to us, in theory, countries with developed industry and the proletariat should have joined under the leadership of their vanguards, such as Germany, the USA, etc., and there, all sorts of pre-imperialist sheikhs and brahmanas will have nothing left to do but change their shoes to the Communists or burn out alive in the World Fire, which was supposed to cleanse the world from all who would not rejoice in the victory of Communism.
            The second communist project of the Ukrainian SSR was also a project of a non-state, which was intended to die out in the process of the victory of socialism during the economic competition of the two systems. Stalin wrote in The Economic Problems of Socialism that we do not have a theory, which means that there is no understanding of what will happen next to the RSFSR and the Ukrainian SSR, but no one heard it. With the collapse of the USSR in Ukraine, they embraced the almost Khrushchev slogan “we (with Europe) will show them (Russia) Kuzkin’s mother”, but in the same mild paradigm of economic competition.
            And then streams of anti-historical literature eroded the young political identity of Ukrainians, and after 2008 they gradually returned to the “zero” Austro-Hungarian Anti-Russia project, which won on the Maidan.
            I consider the history of the state of Ukraine to be correctly described only in this perspective.
      2. English tarantas 16 November 2019 10: 16 New
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        I dare to correct: not Finland, but Sweden, not Germany, but the former Prussia / Reich, the Ottoman Empire, who wanted to enslave the whole world and convert it to Islam, the militaristic Japanese Empire (remember the Chinese adventures of the samurai), and no one is going to return these territories, therefore that no one who wanted to secede (Central Asia), and who wanted to secede to be an enemy convinced him. And the same America, first cut out the Indians, then pressed south from Mexico, managed to fight with other colonialists, then also fought with the mother country, and then also fought with each other so that the north subjugated the south.
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  • Evil 55 16 November 2019 07: 07 New
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    And with a knowledge of history at the State Department, oh how bad ...
  • Sayan 16 November 2019 07: 28 New
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    Yes, something like a light bulb opinion of this trait
  • Vladimir_2U 16 November 2019 07: 30 New
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    Well, if you follow the logic of this very thing, then Russia must declare war in Vnaukraine, declare victory there, declare the end of the war, and based on all this, “Our Crimea” is already officially and in accordance with all international laws, well, as this one understands them, the head of the State Department who.
  • demo 16 November 2019 07: 41 New
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    I remembered an anecdote about how on the Georgian collective farm (when it was!) At the end of the year, the chairman awarded the distinguished students.
    And in the end, a new Volga, a son, a new Volga, and a wife, an accountant, new Lada.
    And then the oldest farmer collective farmer gets up and says a sacramental phrase: "Well done, your mother re mother, said well!"
    I would like to say exactly the same words to Pompeo.

    If you do not take into account the essence of what was said, but only take into account the level of knowledge of ALL American officials, that in the field of geography, that in the field of history, then one should not be surprised.

    That would be to gavrik not to think at a briefing, but to ordinary conversation.
    I have no doubt that Pompeo’s knowledge of “apparently different factual circumstances” would have ended exactly with this phrase.
  • Aliken 16 November 2019 07: 44 New
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    Pompeo generally can not ask for anything to explain, a rare rascal.
  • Shahno 16 November 2019 07: 58 New
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    Quote: Astronaut
    For smart mathematicians: Jews are runaway slaves from Egypt and the state they never had until the UN allocated territory after the 2 World War

    And about the Hasmonean kingdom, about the kingdom of Israel, about the kingdom of Judea, you haven’t heard the type, but read it now ... Maybe you even know the Macawites, or the Maccabi Tel Aviv team.
    You can leave the sophistry wretched, like Israel wasn’t exactly ...
    1. Jerk 16 November 2019 08: 11 New
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      Israel wasn’t exactly like that ...

      Here! And Moses led the elves on the rainbow, but in Egypt - were they on vacation? Well, I’ll keep silent about different sykaries - no one founded terrorism ...
  • Jerk 16 November 2019 08: 07 New
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    Remember ...

    Roosevelt first called "Our son of a bitch"
  • Moskovit 16 November 2019 08: 19 New
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    You are only to blame for what I want to eat.
    The mooing of Pompeo only confirms the absolutely voluntaristic approach of the USA to international law.
  • Shahno 16 November 2019 08: 20 New
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    Quote: Jerk
    Israel wasn’t exactly like that ...

    Here! And Moses led the elves on the rainbow, but in Egypt - were they on vacation? Well, I’ll keep silent about different sykaries - no one founded terrorism ...

    My opinion about the times of Moses, there were more epics (if historians cannot even figure out which pharaoh happened).
    About the sikaria sect, well, there were different manifestations. There were people like Yeshua ... Nobody idealizes.
    1. Demon_is_ada 16 November 2019 15: 34 New
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      Paul, the history of the Jewish people is not related to Jewish statehood. And yet, yes, the Jews are a chosen people, and the most distressed is a fact. It’s worth reminding you that the first holocaust was not made by Hitler, but by Jehovah, the first time by the flood in person, the second time by the hands of Moses and his ascetics being massacred by the bodies and probably only because everyone is white and fluffy ... yeah ... The question is - who elected and for what? That is the whole problem. And now you will have a terrible insider - remember the story about the fact that after the creation of the Jewish state and the construction of the temple, the end of the world will begin? Well, this is not a fairy tale, it really will and has already begun ... And the beginning will not be where Israel is now ... The trick is that the Temple is built in the soul, and not in the form of a building, and this is how the people of your tribe will massively establish themselves the conviction of one’s superiority and innate nature to steer, so it starts so that then it doesn’t seem like much ... Femenism is the brick of that temple ... Yeah, but it started in Russia, and not in Israel. Israel is an American puppet, has nothing to do with the state. Why did Jehovah scatter you? And you suffer because of your own stupidity, it has been so since the time of your creation. Besides you, there are no fools on the planet to fight with Yegova, and never has been ... It starts if it flies to us, so as not to relax ... Remember World War II - Hitler destroyed, everyone went crazy in the USSR, and then totalitarianism and no independence wassat do you feel God's providence with your booty? bully Who is now khayut a mustache of a person of Jewish nationality ... do you smell a catch?
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        Besides you, there are no wicked people on the planet to fight with Jehovah and never have been
        I wonder who proposed in 1948 to call the new state such a godless name - Israel (Struggling with God)? Why not Judea? It seems to have spoken Yiddish, self-name yida (I do not want to fight against an illiterate, but very politically correct car dealer), the religion of Judaism - everything gravitates towards the second name of the two ancient kingdoms, but they called Israel.
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          I can’t say for sure, I don’t know, but in mysticism (religion not at the level of parishioners) there is a lot of black humor, like cross-over like Slavic languages ​​where a freak is beautiful ... Maybe their ears were frostbite in spite, maybe someone maliciously suggested ... it seems like that what is happening now on the outskirts, apparently the sober-up does not make a noise ...
  • 1536 16 November 2019 08: 25 New
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    Another American cad is quoted as if it was William Shakespeare or Leo Tolstoy. Yes, this cowboy would go to w .. pu!
  • Procopius Nesterov 16 November 2019 08: 35 New
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    Crimea became part of Russia in 1783. The USA in 1783 gained independence as a state, ending the war of independence against Great Britain.
  • nikon7717 16 November 2019 09: 04 New
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    Texas was taken from Mexico.

    No wonder it looks like Texas really wants to separate, and on the border with Mexico the Yankees are building a great wall
  • samarin1969 16 November 2019 09: 07 New
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    "Pompey" and he understands what he says nonsense. He just likes to change the world with one American word.
  • axiles100682 16 November 2019 09: 17 New
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    What nonsense are they trying to justify the present existence and its territorial claims by some kind of ancient Jewish entity. Well then, let's object the state of Astoria, Babylon, Maya, Inca, Ancient Egypt. If you start from this statement, then such a bicker will begin. States appear and disappear, the revival of the Jewish state was necessary for the powers that be after WWII. No matter how much the desire and struggle of the Jews for gaining their own statehood was reduced, Israel would not have appeared without the support of the leading powers of the world
  • Vasyan1971 16 November 2019 09: 22 New
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    Not only are the standards double, they are also flexible to the point of amazement!
  • Gennady Fomkin 16 November 2019 09: 24 New
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    Quote: Shahno
    Quote: Astronaut
    For smart mathematicians: Jews are runaway slaves from Egypt and the state they never had until the UN allocated territory after the 2 World War

    And about the Hasmonean kingdom, about the kingdom of Israel, about the kingdom of Judea, you haven’t heard the type, but read it now ... Maybe you even know the Macawites, or the Maccabi Tel Aviv team.
    You can leave the sophistry wretched, like Israel wasn’t exactly ...
    In 1999, a large information bomb about Jewish lies exploded. For more than 70 years, Jewish archaeologists have been excavating the lands of present-day Israel and the neighboring lands of Palestine in order to prove to the whole world, including Jews, the authenticity of the Bible story of the Jewish people as a God-chosen nation.

    And oh horror! The Jewish archaeologist, Professor Z. Herzog, ventured to oppose Zionist lies and published sensational findings of almost a century of archaeological excavations. Thus, science claims that there was no biblical period in the history of Jews and Israel, there was no Exodus from Egypt, no wanderings around the Sinai, no siege Jericho by Joshua, nor the great empire of David and Solomon. laughingThe Israeli newspaper Haaretz published a sensational statement by renowned archaeologist Professor Zeev Herzog. The Duke claims - neither more nor less - that the Bible period in the history of Israel never existed at all. According to his statements, there was no exodus from Egypt, nor wanderings around Sinai, nor siege of Jericho by Joshua, nor great power of David and Solomon.
    The Duke came to the conclusion that the fundamental provisions of the Bible do not correspond to historical realities. According to him, 70 years of excavation in the land of present-day Israel and Palestine did not give a single confirmation of the facts set forth in the Old Testament. According to Z. Herzog, "no matter how difficult it is to put up with, but the people of Israel did not leave Egypt, did not wander in the desert, did not conquer Eretz Yisrael, and the glorified state of King David was not a great regional power, but was a small tribal princedom . laughing lol
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      They just didn’t dig there, if you carefully read the Bible, it’s clear that these are pieces of history of different periods, insignificant gaps are thrown out, and the promised land is not in Israel bully , like the eternal Rome ... Over time, the truth will creep out ... You need to look in the mines on the African continent ...
  • Prisoner 16 November 2019 09: 24 New
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    Hypocritical, arrogant and dishonorable rats!
  • PValery53 16 November 2019 09: 43 New
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    "The United States recognizes the Golan Heights as the territory of Israel and does not recognize Crimea as the territory of Russia because there are" obviously different factual circumstances. "This was stated by US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo."
    “These politicians have long been ridiculed by our satirists.” "Here - to play, here - not to play, and here - fish was wrapped." For selfish, beneficial ONLY to yourself, the interpretation of all situations in the world, it is useful to regularly and systematically give America a hat, to make such "attempts" unprofitable to America.
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    A5V 16 November 2019 09: 48 New
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    Recognition of the Golan as Israeli is in the interests of the United States, recognition of the Russian Crimea is not. That’s the whole difference. Although of course they will justify it by international law, history, chemical weapons and other bullshit.
  • Shahno 16 November 2019 10: 01 New
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    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    Quote: Shahno
    Quote: Astronaut
    For smart mathematicians: Jews are runaway slaves from Egypt and the state they never had until the UN allocated territory after the 2 World War

    And about the Hasmonean kingdom, about the kingdom of Israel, about the kingdom of Judea, you haven’t heard the type, but read it now ... Maybe you even know the Macawites, or the Maccabi Tel Aviv team.
    You can leave the sophistry wretched, like Israel wasn’t exactly ...
    In 1999, a large information bomb about Jewish lies exploded. For more than 70 years, Jewish archaeologists have been excavating the lands of present-day Israel and the neighboring lands of Palestine in order to prove to the whole world, including Jews, the authenticity of the Bible story of the Jewish people as a God-chosen nation.

    And oh horror! The Jewish archaeologist, Professor Z. Herzog, ventured to oppose Zionist lies and published sensational findings of almost a century of archaeological excavations. Thus, science claims that there was no biblical period in the history of Jews and Israel, there was no Exodus from Egypt, no wanderings around the Sinai, no siege Jericho by Joshua, nor the great empire of David and Solomon. laughingThe Israeli newspaper Haaretz published a sensational statement by renowned archaeologist Professor Zeev Herzog. The Duke claims - neither more nor less - that the Bible period in the history of Israel never existed at all. According to his statements, there was no exodus from Egypt, nor wanderings around Sinai, nor siege of Jericho by Joshua, nor great power of David and Solomon.
    The Duke came to the conclusion that the fundamental provisions of the Bible do not correspond to historical realities. According to him, 70 years of excavation in the land of present-day Israel and Palestine did not give a single confirmation of the facts set forth in the Old Testament. According to Z. Herzog, "no matter how difficult it is to put up with, but the people of Israel did not leave Egypt, did not wander in the desert, did not conquer Eretz Yisrael, and the glorified state of King David was not a great regional power, but was a small tribal princedom . laughing lol

    // And, oh, horror! The Jewish archaeologist, Professor Z. Herzog, ventured to go against the Zionist lies and published the sensational findings of almost a century of archaeological excavations.
    Why are you surprised? Here, physics is periodically redone. And archeology even more so.
    Dear professor, he will now interpret the facts for a long time.
    Here, for example, the Assyrian king Sargon 2, that he conquered in 720 BC This is described in detail in archaeological sites and documents, for example, in the Annals of Sargon.
    This is what it wasn’t, Sargon conquered .. Well, itd ...
    1. Good_Anonymous 16 November 2019 11: 57 New
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      Here, for example, the Assyrian king Sargon 2, that he conquered in 720 BC This is described in detail in archaeological sites and documents, for example, in the Annals of Sargon.


      Nobody paints anything in archaeological sites smile And to believe the "Annals" should be no more than any annals.
  • faterdom 16 November 2019 10: 07 New
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    Yes, this does not mean anything else, as a very low level of erudition and general secondary education, even among top US officials, Pompeo, I recall, was the director of the CIA, and now the head of the State Department.
    And what, how does he look next to, say, Naryshkin or Lavrov? A dumb fat Porthos: "I fight because I fight!"
    And here we are laughing when Vovan and Lexus bred American senators in Limpopo and Aibolit ... I'm afraid they don’t even understand our laughter, or at least it will take a long time to explain ...
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    They: "see the difference between the Golan Heights and the Crimea," and I see the duplicity.
    Some of us need to turn to a specialist and guess who, and you think so too?
  • English tarantas 16 November 2019 10: 19 New
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    It is interesting, but if, God forbid, the Russian Federation takes Ukraine to Kiev, they will say that Kiev is historically not Russian?
  • Gennady Fomkin 16 November 2019 10: 23 New
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    Quote: Shahno
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    Quote: Shahno
    Quote: Astronaut
    For smart mathematicians: Jews are runaway slaves from Egypt and the state they never had until the UN allocated territory after the 2 World War

    And about the Hasmonean kingdom, about the kingdom of Israel, about the kingdom of Judea, you haven’t heard the type, but read it now ... Maybe you even know the Macawites, or the Maccabi Tel Aviv team.
    You can leave the sophistry wretched, like Israel wasn’t exactly ...
    In 1999, a large information bomb about Jewish lies exploded. For more than 70 years, Jewish archaeologists have been excavating the lands of present-day Israel and the neighboring lands of Palestine in order to prove to the whole world, including Jews, the authenticity of the Bible story of the Jewish people as a God-chosen nation.

    And oh horror! The Jewish archaeologist, Professor Z. Herzog, ventured to oppose Zionist lies and published sensational findings of almost a century of archaeological excavations. Thus, science claims that there was no biblical period in the history of Jews and Israel, there was no Exodus from Egypt, no wanderings around the Sinai, no siege Jericho by Joshua, nor the great empire of David and Solomon. laughingThe Israeli newspaper Haaretz published a sensational statement by renowned archaeologist Professor Zeev Herzog. The Duke claims - neither more nor less - that the Bible period in the history of Israel never existed at all. According to his statements, there was no exodus from Egypt, nor wanderings around Sinai, nor siege of Jericho by Joshua, nor great power of David and Solomon.
    The Duke came to the conclusion that the fundamental provisions of the Bible do not correspond to historical realities. According to him, 70 years of excavation in the land of present-day Israel and Palestine did not give a single confirmation of the facts set forth in the Old Testament. According to Z. Herzog, "no matter how difficult it is to put up with, but the people of Israel did not leave Egypt, did not wander in the desert, did not conquer Eretz Yisrael, and the glorified state of King David was not a great regional power, but was a small tribal princedom . laughing lol

    // And, oh, horror! The Jewish archaeologist, Professor Z. Herzog, ventured to go against the Zionist lies and published the sensational findings of almost a century of archaeological excavations.
    Why are you surprised? Here, physics is periodically redone. And archeology even more so.
    Dear professor, he will now interpret the facts for a long time.
    Here, for example, the Assyrian king Sargon 2, that he conquered in 720 BC This is described in detail in archaeological sites and documents, for example, in the Annals of Sargon.
    This is what it wasn’t, Sargon conquered .. Well, itd ...

    For subsequent times, the identity of the founder of the kingdom of Akkad Sargon the Ancient was shrouded in a fairytale haze of tradition; it is still not easy for us to separate the legend from history, although genuine inscriptions have come down from Sargon, which, unfortunately, are rather mean in content. The real name of Sargon is unknown, and the name Sharrumken, which means in the East Semitic “the king is true,” he, in all probability, accepted already upon accession to the throne. lol
  • Antares 16 November 2019 10: 27 New
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    Like a person, any country interprets any phenomenon or event, how it wants and how it benefits it.
    What the USA, what the Russian Federation interpret diametrically opposite, because it is beneficial to them,
    It’s not surprising that the words of one cause misunderstanding of the other (I’m right and he’s wrong).
    Because we are all primates ...
  • Ros 56 16 November 2019 10: 32 New
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    I thought he’s smarter, he will analyze the facts, and he will juggle the facts with the facts.
  • Terenin 16 November 2019 10: 36 New
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    US Secretary of State M. Pompeo: "Obviously different factual circumstances."

    Oh, belay , one can feel the school of worked out "diplomacy" of cowboys from behind a puddle, at any level and on all issues. We memorized, for any situation, this sentence of these four words, and it does not matter in what order to pronounce them:
    "the circumstances are actually different, obviously"
    "different, apparently factual circumstances"
    "factual circumstances are obviously different."
    . bully
  • Berkut24 16 November 2019 10: 45 New
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    Yes, all this logic is based on impudence, stupidity and greed. Time will put everything in its place. Where injustice will burn constantly. The United States will not have enough fire foam for all fires. They themselves are pushing the world to a new redivision.
  • Souchastnik 16 November 2019 10: 46 New
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    "These are villains, but these are our villains," "You are guilty only of what I want to eat ..." You can remember something else, but the essence is the same: we are so profitable, and we don't care ... anyway others think this.
  • Turkir 16 November 2019 11: 38 New
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    There is a set of international norms and concepts, there are factual circumstances that contradict them, and where these norms are built, we must recognize them

    And there is a set of words that does not make any sense, although they are taken from international norms and concepts that contradict the actual circumstances. In order to build the set of words that fat Mike spat out, it is not necessary to be a secretary of state, but you must be a schizophrenic.
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    It's time to introduce Russian tanks to the Baltic states - history, however bully
  • TermNachTer 16 November 2019 11: 49 New
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    Well, with such an approach and such an argument, you can "bring the base" for anything.
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    Golan territory of Syria. The Syrians need to drive the Jews from there with a filthy broom.

    Well, this is unlikely, as Comrade Sukhov said. And the fact that the territory of the Golan Heights, the same Syrian, you yourself decided? Or Meehan prompted? I remember the character Vladimir was on VO 5 - Your forerunner, so to speak. So he once Andrei Andreyevich Gromyko, along with Suslov recorded in the Jews. And argued about it until hoarseness. Is this not your relative by chance, or is it just your reincarnation? To begin with, you would have to learn a story, and then post about something you don’t know. LIKBEZ: for you personally. The very name of the Golan Heights comes from the name of the Hebrew city of the Golan. These heights are originally Jewish territory (as evidenced by excavations and documents from the time of the hell of King Herod), which the Arab invaders invaded in the seventh century AD, but they could not restrain them. And until the end of World War I, the Golan belonged to Ottoman Turkey. I didn’t stand Arabs there, never, I emphasize from the word never, on this earth there was not one, from the word not a single, Arab state. In 1917, Great Britain (fine-shaven, if in your opinion, in Vladimir) adopted the Balfour Declaration on the need to create a Jewish state in Palestine. In 1920, an international conference was held in San Remo (following the results of the First World War, in which Turkey was defeated). Britain received a mandate for the temporary management of former Turkish territories in the Middle East. According to points 5-8 of the mandate in the territory of completely deserted Jewish Palestine (read Mark Twain for the sake of simpletons abroad), a Jewish state was to be formed, which included the Golan Heights. And no one has ever canceled this decision. It is still valid. Moreover, it was duplicated by the League of Nations. In this regard, Baron Edmond Rothschild, bought from Turkish (not Arab !!!) land owners in the Golan. But in 1923, England, in violation of the decision of the conference in San Remo, the League of Nations, contrary to the terms of the mandate, transferred the Golan to France, and that, after the proclamation of Syria, already in the mid-forties - to this state. And the Jewish merchants in the Golan, there are international decisions on belonging to Israel. The aggression of Syria in 1967 against Israel, led to the fact that the Golan, or rather a small part of them, went to Israel. In addition, Syria used the Golan until 1967, exclusively for shelling Israel. From the Golan, Haifa is clearly visible. They tried to cut off Kinneret from rivers and streams flowing from the Golan. So it was. Pompeo spoke about this story. A filthy broom, in your opinion, needs to drive those who stamp propaganda and anti-Israeli slogans without worrying about objectivity, because of prejudice and elementary illiteracy.
  • Andrey VOV 16 November 2019 12: 24 New
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    Here it is., As they would say now, the total and total sacrifice of the USE .... and it’s just DEMAGOGUS, exactly, with a capital letter, it’s soft, so that it’s banned
  • midshipman 16 November 2019 12: 26 New
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    They ask Chapaev: “Vasily Ivanovich, but are there any whites in America?” Chapaev’s answer: “Yes, there are whites, but the indigenous population of America is red.” And I think the Jews.
  • Ratmir_Ryazan 16 November 2019 12: 29 New
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    The Golan Heights were captured by Israel, and Crimea and Sevastopol became part of Russia independently and voluntarily.

    But the difference is that it is not profitable for the United States to recognize Crimea as Russian, but supporting their ally in the Middle East, Israel and exacerbating its military situation with Syria, provoking a new Syrian-Israeli conflict is beneficial for them. And the United States acts just guided only by self-interest, and not by law or historical truth.
  • Bukhalov 16 November 2019 13: 51 New
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    , our country fought, our country won and received these lands as a winner

    A completely similar situation with the Golan Heights - Israel fought, won and received these lands.

    I will add that based on the decisions of the 1920 San Remo conference, the League of Nations and the British mandate on Palestine, as well as the Israeli merchandise, the Golan Heights were, are and will be an integral part of Israel. On that stood and will stand Jewish land.
  • Lelek 16 November 2019 13: 59 New
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    The situation is obviously different, and we spoke very clearly about this when the decision was made (on the recognition of the Golan Heights). We simply recognized the reality on earth and the history that existed in this particular place.

    Mmmda, with history, Mike was not friends as a teenager and is now in contradictions. IMHO, but don’t give a damn about these state’s "non-recognition", Crimea is Russia, so the Russian people decided (democracy in action).
  • Operator 16 November 2019 14: 15 New
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    40 years in the desert poked around

    1800 years since the Roman deportation from Palestine.
  • cosmonaut 16 November 2019 14: 29 New
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    in short, you didn’t get a hare. I don’t like your face)))