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Armed Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine received another "modernized" MiG-29 fighter

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Armed Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine received another "modernized" MiG-29 fighter

The Armed Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine received another modernized MiG-29 fighter. Aircraft modernization and repair were performed at the Lviv State Aircraft Repair Plant State Enterprise. This was reported by the official portal of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine ArmіyaInform with reference to the command of the Air Force.


The Lviv Aircraft Repair Plant was handed over to the Air Force by the MIG-29 fighter, which underwent repair and modernization. According to the company, the aircraft received overhaul engines, an improved radar station and a satellite navigation system. It is reported that "significantly expanded capabilities for monitoring and recording the functional parameters of the technical condition of the aircraft, engine and a number of on-board systems". This modernization, according to the plant’s specialists, will allow the aircraft to last at least eight years.

The aircraft was accepted by the engineering staff aviation parts and departed to the place of deployment.

As previously reported, Ukraine cannot independently carry out the appropriate modernization of the existing fleet of MiG-29 fighters due to the severance of all economic ties with Russia. Ukraine is experiencing particular problems due to the inability to purchase radar equipment in Russia. And due to the fact that the light MiG-29 fighter is the main aircraft of the Ukrainian Air Force, the problem with its repair and modernization was very acute against the impossibility of acquiring new aircraft.

As a senior source in the Armed Forces of Ukraine explained, any “modernization” that is announced with great fanfare in Ukraine is conditional. In fact, the aircraft prolongs airworthiness by improvised means.

As Ukrainian media previously reported, in total Ukraine owns approximately 45 MiG-29 fighters in the MU and MU1 modifications. All of them must be upgraded to the МУ2 level, which allows the use of guided air-to-surface missiles and adjustable bombs.
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  1. Aerodrome
    Aerodrome 15 November 2019 13: 46
    +5
    The aircraft was received by the engineering staff of the aviation unit and departed to the place of deployment.
    it's good that "left" and not arrived ... lol
    1. Alexander Petrov1
      Alexander Petrov1 15 November 2019 13: 48
      +3
      Probably the whole second of the year. laughing
  2. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 15 November 2019 13: 47
    +3
    Well, of course, they are far from our latest modifications, but modernization is still underway. Unfortunately, I probably can’t find the Ukrainian article, and the article is in Ukrainian ... But the instruments are changing. Not only the extension of the resource .... However, I will try to search, I think it will be interesting to specialists ...
    1. Invoce
      Invoce 15 November 2019 13: 52
      +6
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      But the instruments are changing. Not only resource renewal.... However, I’ll try to search, I think it will be interesting for specialists

      Resellers of the resource have neither documentation nor qualifications for extending the resource ... all the more so, there is no guarantee that the plane was dismantled at all ...
      1. Sky strike fighter
        Sky strike fighter 15 November 2019 13: 58
        +10
        Apparently they did not have long to renew the resource.
        The degree of degradation of Ukrainian military aviation is clearly demonstrated by the data of another British analytical publication, The Military Balance. According to them, after all the efforts to strengthen the Air Force undertaken by the government of Petro Poroshenko, at the beginning of 2018, the Povitryan Force of the Zbroyni Forces had only about 80 MiG-29 and Su-27 fighters, 14 Su-24 front-line bombers, 31 Su-25 attack aircraft 47, as well as about XNUMX helicopters.

        At the same time, it is real that due to the unsatisfactory state of technology and the lack of trained personnel, no more than two thirds of the cars could rise at best. The average raid per year in the Ukrainian Air Force at that time was 40 hours. For comparison, recall that the same indicator in 2018 in the Russian Air Force was more than 100 hours.


        Such a critical situation prompted the Central Research Institute of Arms and Military Equipment of the Armed Forces to analyze possible schemes for updating the Ukrainian Air Force fleet. The main conclusions reached by the Central Research Institute of Armed Forces of the Armed Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the course of the study were recently published by the Ukrainian Defense Express information resource in a note with the indicative title “How to save Ukrainian aviation. What can be the Air Force of Ukraine in 5 years. ”

        The current state of affairs is represented by the Ukrainian military as follows.

        According to the Ukrainian Air Force command, the existing fleet of military aircraft, taking into account the extension of their service life and resource, will allow Ukrainian pilots to operate the MiG-29, Su-27, Su-24 and Su-25 until 2025. Maximum - until the 2030th, but this, as they say, is already the "edge".

        https://riafan.ru/1226878-vvs-ukrainy-idut-na-posadku
      2. Avior
        Avior 15 November 2019 16: 21
        +4
        In Lviv, MiG repair company, starting from MiG 15 onwards.
        Since the war years there. And after 1991 it was already being repaired in an independent building, including for Kahastan, for example, they collaborated with MiG until 2014.
        Surely there is the necessary documentation.
    2. bober1982
      bober1982 15 November 2019 14: 05
      0
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      but modernization is still underway

      Very creative modernization, I must say.
      MiG-29, the Ukrainian side has enough, the aircraft is outdated, with whom they are going to conduct air battles and themselves do not know, so they are trying to make a fighter out of a fighter like a bomber or attack aircraft. Hang on the fighter good old X-29, and in some incomprehensible way combine all this with on-board equipment (also mysterious) - this is where all the creative ends.
      1. Sky strike fighter
        Sky strike fighter 15 November 2019 14: 17
        +4
        Do you have any idea who they are going to conduct air battles with? Especially since after 5 years they will have to write off all of their fighters one way or another due to wear and tear.
        Two Ukrainian enterprises The state-owned enterprise Artyom Engineering Company and Radionix are part of a cooperative program to develop a new aviation missile based on the R-27 air-to-air missile. For this, two options for upgrading the rocket have been worked out. According to the first, the Artem enterprise adds an additional engine with rudders to the design of an aircraft missile. This will expand the area of ​​destruction of the R-27 Variant rocket, the effective range will reach 55 km. According to the second, it is planned to equip the R-27 with three new control systems, including an infrared seeker, an active and passive radar seeker, which are protected from enemy interference. This is done by Radionix.
        Source: http://nevskii-bastion.ru/r-27/ MTC "NEVSKY BASTION" AVKarpenko
      2. Avior
        Avior 15 November 2019 16: 26
        0
        The modernization of the MU2 provides for the possibility of using guided weapons from the MiG.
      3. ltc35
        ltc35 15 November 2019 20: 18
        +1
        From what?! They painted it nicely. So there is creativity.
    3. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer 15 November 2019 19: 35
      +2
      You don’t even have to search. How can a major overhaul of an engine be made without spare parts? And even with the availability of spare parts, capital can be made by a factory - manufacturer or a specialist in engine repair plants. Lviv plant - just repair mainly on the glider, replacing the filling. Another bandera nonsense.
  3. Invoce
    Invoce 15 November 2019 13: 49
    +15
    The Lviv Aircraft Repair Plant was handed over by the Mig-29 fighter to the Air Force of the Armed Forces, which underwent repair and modernization.

    Lviv Bus factory the Mig-29 fighter, which underwent repair and modernization, handed over to the AFU.
    Yes ear .. I do not envy the pilots ...
    1. RideMaster
      RideMaster 15 November 2019 13: 59
      +6
      The main thing is that the grandmother of the conductor was not put there. Such a pilot flies to fight and from behind - show your ticket, be affectionate.
      1. Black sniper
        Black sniper 15 November 2019 14: 14
        +4
        The Lviv Aircraft Repair Plant was handed over by the Mig-29 fighter to the Air Force of the Armed Forces, which underwent repair and modernization.
        ---------------------------
        Well, here the author was clearly mistaken with the abbreviation, not MiG, but MiG since there were two designers. MiG-29 is quite a plane, Indians and Syrians are still flying on the MiG-21/25. hi
      2. AlexG83
        AlexG83 15 November 2019 16: 47
        +3
        Quote: RideMaster
        The main thing is that the grandmother of the conductor was not put there. Such a pilot flies to fight and from behind - show your ticket, be affectionate.

        Pilot - No ticket
        Conductor - Then Get Out
    2. Sky strike fighter
      Sky strike fighter 15 November 2019 14: 04
      +4
      Ukraine owns about 45 MiG-29 fighters in the MU and MU1 modifications. All of them must be upgraded to the level of MU2

      The letters MU in the names of the Mig-29 modernization hint at what MU came up with this modernization?
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 15 November 2019 15: 57
        +1
        Quote: Sky Strike fighter
        hint at what MU came up with this modernization?

        What difference does MU or MUMU.
    3. New Year day
      New Year day 15 November 2019 15: 17
      +4
      Quote: Invoce
      Lviv Bus Plant


      Suddenly passed away a long time ago
    4. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 15 November 2019 15: 51
      +3
      Quote: Invoce
      Lviv Bus Plant handed over to the Air Force APU fighter Mig-29, which underwent repair and modernization.

      Yes to the Bus Factory, which in 1980 was the largest chuli not in the world "kyrdyk".
      In the spring of 2019, demolition of buildings began on the territory of the former factory. The territory is planned to be built up with an IT-technology park and residential complexes
      . I don’t know the truth or not.
    5. Fitter65
      Fitter65 15 November 2019 18: 24
      +3
      Quote: Invoce
      Lviv Bus Plant handed over to the Air Force APU fighter Mig-29, which underwent repair and modernization.
      Yes ear .. I do not envy the pilots.

      The 117th Lviv Aircraft Repair Plant is a rather well-known in its time ARZ. It was created back in 1939 in the month of October, as an aircraft repair workshop of the Red Army Air Force. in Soviet times, he specialized in repairing MiG aircraft. The plant mastered the repair of MiG-29 in 1992 ... And unlike the Lviv Atomic Plant, which ordered a long life, this enterprise still lives and is engaged in aircraft repair ...
  4. Amateur
    Amateur 15 November 2019 13: 57
    +4
    the plane received ..... and a satellite navigation system.

    Probably a smartphone screwed somewhere. lol
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 15 November 2019 14: 01
      +3
      Quote: Amateur
      Probably a smartphone screwed somewhere.

      You can’t use a smartphone - it distracts the pilot with alerts, most likely a navigator)))
  5. RideMaster
    RideMaster 15 November 2019 13: 57
    +1
    From the point of view of Kakelov they are one step closer to the parade in Moscow.
    They somehow don’t really notice that during this time Russia took dozens of new aircraft into service.
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 15 November 2019 14: 04
      +7
      Quote: RideMaster
      From the point of view of Kakelov they are one step closer

      )))
  6. midshipman
    midshipman 15 November 2019 14: 02
    +5
    Ukrainians cannot buy for this aircraft not only the airborne radar, but the whole complex of navigation and landing equipment. Previously, enterprises of the 6th Main Directorate of the MPI of the USSR produced it with the participation of Kiev and Khmelnitsky enterprises. Now everything is made only in Russia. And airfield complexes RSBN and landing. Are Ukrainians satisfied with the situation? Will abroad help you?
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 15 November 2019 16: 00
      +3
      Quote: midshipman
      Are Ukrainians satisfied with the situation? Will abroad help you?

      Of course it will help. To finish the last.
    2. Herman 4223
      Herman 4223 15 November 2019 17: 08
      +2
      Super toucan will replace them with a su-27.
    3. bistrov.
      bistrov. 15 November 2019 17: 29
      +2
      Quote: midshipman
      Khmelnitsky enterprises

      Khmelnitsky "Kation" has long been turned into a vegetable storehouse, and in "Radiozavod" there is one workshop, semi-handicraft riveting household gas and water meters.
  7. Skay
    Skay 15 November 2019 14: 04
    +1
    All of them must be upgraded to the MU2 level, which allows the use of guided air-to-surface missiles and guided bombs.

    Attack fighter? what
    1. marshes
      marshes 15 November 2019 14: 10
      +2
      Quote: Skay
      Attack fighter?

      Front-line fighter, as intended.
  8. knn54
    knn54 15 November 2019 14: 10
    +3
    Abroad, obviously, will not help.
    There are not even power bolts for attaching aircraft structures.
    And where to get the airborne radar.
    ANOTHER Lviv plant (before that "distinguished" tank repair plant) is ready to "cut" budget funds.
    1. Sky strike fighter
      Sky strike fighter 15 November 2019 14: 29
      +1
      There would be a desire, but there would be opportunities. An example of how Iran created a new airborne radar for its Phantoms, but Ukraine can buy a radar if desired.
      the other day, local media published a photo story about the visit by the commander-in-chief of the army, General Abdulrahim Mousavi, to one of the Iranian air forces, where they showed him a self-upgraded F-4E Phantome II fighter, which received a new radar station.
      As military expert Yuri Lyamin notes, compared to the old one, this radar has improved characteristics for detecting various targets and is based on a modern digital element base.

      https://rg.ru/2019/11/14/vopreki-sankciiam-iran-ustanovil-novuiu-rls-na-amerikanskij-fantom.html
  9. rocket757
    rocket757 15 November 2019 14: 11
    +3
    To promise does not mean ... getting married, for example. This is their business ...
    After the "hammer" and everything else, their flyers should think about ... which church to go to communion!
  10. askort154
    askort154 15 November 2019 14: 12
    +7
    As Ukrainian media previously reported, in total Ukraine owns about 45 MiG-29 fighters in the MU and MU1 modifications.

    And there are still such numbers!
    Ukraine Aviation for 2018 (on the wing)
    - 7 pcs. MiG-29 + 4 MiG-29 MU-1 + 1 MiG-29 UB;
    - 5 pieces. Su-27 + 1 Su-27 UB;
    - 3 pcs. attack aircraft Su-25 M 1;
    - 1 PC. Scout Su - 24 MP;
    - 4 things. L-39 M1;
    - 2 pcs. An-26
    - 1 PC. IL-76 MD.
    (Millitary Aviation 2018)
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 15 November 2019 14: 17
      +6
      Quote: askort154
      And there are still such numbers!
      Ukraine Aviation for 2018 (on the wing)
      - 7 pcs. MiG-29 + 4 MiG-29 MU-1 + 1 MiG-29 UB;
      - 5 pieces. Su-27 + 1 Su-27 UB;
      - 3 pcs. attack aircraft Su-25 M 1;
      - 1 PC. Scout Su - 24 MP;
      - 4 things. L-39 M1;
      - 2 pcs. An-26
      - 1 PC. IL-76 MD.

      And how many were at the time of the collapse of the Union! All sold, sawn
      1. askort154
        askort154 15 November 2019 14: 50
        +8
        Silvestr..And how much was at the time of the collapse of the Union! All sold, sawn

        In 1992, the Ukrainian Air Force had - 240 MiG-29.
        And according to the total number of aviation of the Ukrainian Air Force in 1992, they were in 4th place in the World! The only concession is to the USA, Russia, and China.
        As the saying goes - "to break, not to build", but they stubbornly continue to break everything and not build anything. Naturally, such a state cannot have a future. hi
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 15 November 2019 15: 14
          +8
          Quote: askort154
          the total number of aviation of the Ukrainian Air Force in 1992, were in 4th place in the World! The only concession is to the USA, Russia, and China.

          What are we talking about! They killed everything! Shipbuilding is in the furnace, industry is in the furnace. There is no limit to greed! hi
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 15 November 2019 16: 03
        +2
        Quote: Silvestr
        And how many were at the time of the collapse of the Union! All sold, sawn

        I really wanted to eat.
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 15 November 2019 19: 23
          +4
          Quote: tihonmarine
          I really wanted to eat.

          so still not ate!
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 15 November 2019 20: 50
            0
            Quote: Silvestr
            so still not ate!

            Well, everyone knows that appetite comes with eating.
            1. New Year day
              New Year day 15 November 2019 20: 54
              +1
              Quote: tihonmarine
              Well, everyone knows that appetite comes with eating.

              especially if you don’t have to pay for lunch
      3. Herman 4223
        Herman 4223 15 November 2019 17: 15
        +1
        16 fighters and an average raid of 40 hours a year. And if the plaque is increased to normal 100 hours, then these machines will not remain in a couple of years. A resource will be released. In case of war, only the most frostbitten will fly into the air.
      4. bistrov.
        bistrov. 15 November 2019 17: 35
        +2
        Quote: Silvestr
        5 pieces. Su-27 + 1 Su-27 UB;

        One of them ordered a long life this summer, taking with him 2 colonels — one fat Ukrainian, the second thin American. It must be assumed that it was UB.
    2. Guards turn
      Guards turn 15 November 2019 14: 27
      +2
      IL -76 is gone. Two Ukrainian Il-76s were destroyed in Libya. Two Ukrainian military transport aircraft were destroyed as a result of a large-scale missile strike.
  11. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 15 November 2019 14: 13
    +3
    This is already a flying coffin, not an airplane, after all their "upgrades" in / on.
  12. New Year day
    New Year day 15 November 2019 14: 16
    +7
    In the order of "de-communization" they owe everything to the Soviet, incl. and planes, nibble. Some kind of selective "decommunization" is obtained
  13. Prisoner
    Prisoner 15 November 2019 14: 54
    +6
    "This modernization, according to the plant's specialists, will allow the aircraft to serve for at least eight years ..." (c) winked It will easily serve if there is no kerosene. Without KarAsin, all 30 will last if they don’t take apart parts.
  14. Dr. Alexandrov
    Dr. Alexandrov 15 November 2019 15: 06
    +6
    Lviv Aircraft Repair Plant specialized in MIG-29.
    Now 100% - cannibalism from the boards "in storage".
    And screwed on "whistles" will not help a worn-out glider.
  15. Berkut24
    Berkut24 15 November 2019 15: 59
    +4
    How not to upgrade a 35-40-year-old aircraft, and you will not add a resource to it. The engines have already undergone 3-4 major overhauls. All "improvements" are replacing with analogs what the manufacturer will no longer give.
    You can, of course, say that the Armed Forces of Ukraine received one more combat unit, but I think that the pilots are afraid in their hearts to fly on what the hands of the "Ukrainian military-industrial complex" touched. Especially after reports of constant substandard cuts.
  16. Kibl
    Kibl 15 November 2019 16: 02
    +2
    Someone again warmed up at the state order.
  17. Ros 56
    Ros 56 15 November 2019 16: 22
    +3
    Interestingly, the Russian aircraft, therefore, our components, how and how are they being repaired, and even more so replaced with improved versions?
    1. Sky strike fighter
      Sky strike fighter 15 November 2019 17: 10
      +2
      Quote: Ros 56
      Interestingly, the Russian aircraft, therefore, our components, how and how are they being repaired, and even more so replaced with improved versions?


      This is approximately the case.
      Ukraine had serious problems with the repair and modernization of Soviet MiG-29 fighters due to the sanctions introduced against Russia. Lviv Aircraft Repair Plant reported that it had lost the opportunity to purchase Russian spare parts for fighters, which is why it did not fulfill the contract for updating aircraft. In particular, the interlocutor of RT in the command of the Armed Forces said that restrictive measures against the Russian Federation do not allow the purchase of radar equipment. Experts note that attempts by Ukrainian specialists to independently upgrade the MiG-29 can make the operation of the machine unsafe.
      A statement has appeared on the official website of the Lviv State Aviation Repair Plant (LGARZ, part of Ukroboronprom) that the company is experiencing difficulties in repairing and modernizing light MiG-29 fighters due to Kiev’s anti-Russian sanctions and the breakdown of military-technical cooperation with RF


      Until 2018, we most likely supplied spare parts to them. What next.
      in June 2018, Kiev replenished the sanctions list and imposed restrictions against 14 individuals and 30 legal entities of the Russian Federation, including enterprises of the military-industrial complex. In this regard, LGARZ lost the opportunity to legally acquire the necessary products in Russia.


      Most likely they can buy through third countries or bypassing illegal routes.

      “Any other units and systems installed on MiG aircraft are, in fact, counterfeit, that is, a fake. They are definitely worse than the original. Ukraine suffered from an irrepressible desire to annoy Russia: it imposed sanctions, broke off cooperation and now does not know how to modernize these fighters. Kiev, of course, can buy spare parts in third countries, but the safety of the operation of such aircraft will be a very big question, ”explained Drozdenko.

      https://russian.rt.com/ussr/article/642624-mig-29-ukraina-modernizaciya-proval
    2. Sky strike fighter
      Sky strike fighter 15 November 2019 17: 22
      +2
      With all this, they steal. A message 10 days ago.

      KIEV, Nov 5 - RIA News. Counterintelligence of the Security Service of Ukraine warned in the Lviv region of the illegal sale of components for MiG-29 combat aircraft stolen from one of the military units, the agency’s press service said on Tuesday.

      https://ria.ru/20191105/1560609189.html
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 15 November 2019 17: 25
        +1
        Do they steal from themselves and sell themselves? This is a business. good laughing
  18. Piramidon
    Piramidon 16 November 2019 11: 01
    0
    In fact, the aircraft prolongs airworthiness by improvised means.

    Using paper and fountain pen? lol
  19. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 16 November 2019 12: 08
    0
    Ukraine owns about 45 MiG-29 fighters in the MU and MU1 modifications. All of them must be upgraded to the MU2 level, which allows the use of guided air-to-surface missiles and guided bombs.


    And this is already quite serious.

    The Ukrainian Air Force will have to fight not against the modern army, but against the Donbass militia, and such aircraft will be able to hit both fortified objects and militia equipment, and from a height at which you can’t get them from MANPADS.

    I hope Ukraine’s plans for economic and production reasons will not work out.
    1. Crimean partisan 1974
      Crimean partisan 1974 17 November 2019 06: 37
      -1
      such aircraft will be able to hit ........ such mods will not hit any military objects, the subsonic X-29 is easily taken with "arrows" lizh the air defense post would not miss, and "filling" with bombs threatens only the civilian population, and what to fly will not be long, after 3-4 engine overhauls, the flight time is 30-35 hours or even less if the pilot is often farcogging, so there is no benefit from the word ... at all
      1. Ratmir_Ryazan
        Ratmir_Ryazan 17 November 2019 19: 21
        0
        such aircraft will be able to hit ........ nor any military installations such mods will not hit

        subsonic X-29 is easily taken with "arrows" lizh the air defense post would not miss


        If I were you, I wouldn’t be so sure of that.

        If the Kh-29 will be used at night, how will you hit it with the Arrow, tell us?

        I looked at the performance characteristics of the Arrow, the maximum speed of the targets hit towards them - 100-150 m / s, and the speed of the X-29 on average 250-350 m / s. That is, it will not be possible to hit the X-29 with the Arrow.

        Another moment of missiles can be several, and missiles can be not only X-29, but some other, for example, some Israeli ones. The United States will pay - Israel will deliver - Ukraine will apply.
        1. Crimean partisan 1974
          Crimean partisan 1974 18 November 2019 12: 17
          -1
          they will use the X-29 at night, how will you hit it with the "Arrow", tell us? .... for this there are air defense posts with the necessary radar equipment, the task of informing them about the calculations of MANPADS, in the infrared range, the missiles glow well. and night is not a barrier
          the maximum speed of hitting targets towards - 100-150 m / s, and the speed of the X-29 on average 250-350 m / s ..... it is a pity that the calculations of MANPADS tactical groups of the DNI did not know this when the hunter Su-25 was wet and MiG and Su-24 fell under the batch, do not worry about it
          for example, some Israeli ones. The United States will pay ... firstly, if something comes, it will be junk worse than the X-29, and after that it will be necessary to pay. I don’t even remember when they are striped. Yes, however, that side of the curtain gave something for free, and you remember?
          1. Ratmir_Ryazan
            Ratmir_Ryazan 18 November 2019 21: 11
            0
            Something I strongly doubt that the Donbass militia has air defense posts with a constantly operating radar.

            If so, they would work out missiles that are aimed at radar radiation.

            Everything that the militia shot down over the Donbass was usually shot down during the day from MANPADS by visual observation of the target and most likely shot down by Needles and probably in catch-up.

            They also have Arrow-10, but it is not much better than MANPADS, moreover, such equipment is more difficult to mask at the front line with a huge number of UAVs in Ukraine.

            The United States, for example, is allocating $ 3,8 billion a year to Israel, while it’s less for the army and Ukraine, but as it returns, aid will only increase. In order to spoil Russia and Russians, the United States is ready to fork out, and not only they. In Afghanistan, the majahideen received French mines, American MANPADS, for example, and obviously did not pay for it.

            In general, 45 MiG-29s in Ukraine is a problem for the Donbass and should not be ignored.
  20. Rzzz
    Rzzz 17 November 2019 00: 29
    0
    I wonder where parts are taken, through Poland or something .. They seem to have a few of the 29s.