China successfully tests landing platform for Martian mission

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China successfully tests landing platform for Martian mission

In China, the platform was tested for the Martian mission. As transmits "NPlus1", the aerospace science and technology corporation (CASC) has successfully tested the platform that will be used to land the rover in the 2020 year.

Reportedly, for testing, the corporation’s specialists used a complex with an 140-meter test bench capable of simulating the gravity of other planets using a system of multiple tension-controlled cables. During testing, the landing platform was reduced both on cables and on its own engine. With a decrease, experts tested different modes, including hovering above the surface and tracking obstacles on it. The tests were considered successful.



The planned Martian mission will be the second for China: in 2011, the first Chinese Martian probe was launched into space together with the Russian Phobos-Grunt station, but both vehicles were lost due to a failure of the on-board computer. This time in Beijing, they hope that everything will go smoothly.

It is expected that the vehicles will go to Mars on the Changzheng-5 rocket in July or August 2020. According to calculations, the vehicles will enter orbit in February 2021, after which they will land on the planet’s surface, which will be carried out by a platform with a rover located on it, while the orbital probe will remain in orbit and will carry out its program for a year. It is planned that the Mars rover will carry out a program to study Mars for 92 days, at least. The main theme is studies of the chemical composition of the soil, as well as its distribution. A radar was installed on the rover, capable of collecting information about the soil at a depth of one hundred meters.

Note that the 2020 year is scheduled not only for the Chinese mission to Mars. In the summer of next year, the American "Mars-2020" and the European "Exomars", the landing platform for which "Roskosmos" created, will also go to Mars

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    1. +10
      15 November 2019 10: 53
      In the Chinese give!
      Well done boys. Good things learned to do.
      Progress under the clear leadership of the party is taking leaps and bounds.
      1. SSR
        +12
        15 November 2019 11: 22
        Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi
        In the Chinese give!
        Well done boys.

        Quote: Dikson
        Rod on all fronts in development ..

        The Chinese are launching, the Europeans are launching with the Americans, and are we space pioneers doing something new or not in this direction?
        This question is not for you specifically, but in general.
        Can someone from the members of the forum tell me?
        Really interesting.
        1. +9
          15 November 2019 11: 28
          Quote from S.S.R.
          are we space pioneers doing something new or not in this direction?

          We build and saw
          laughing
          1. +2
            15 November 2019 12: 11
            Quote: Silvestr

            We build and saw

            First we are sawing, and for the rest we are trying to build, but here we are sawing.
            1 million dead presidents are worth one km of road in geyuropii, and almost 500 are scrapostan in the capital good Please treat this with understanding.
            1. -3
              15 November 2019 12: 41
              Will the Chinese be launched in one direction?
              1. SSR
                +2
                15 November 2019 12: 53
                Quote: Alexander Petrov1
                Will the Chinese be launched in one direction?

                Well, the Japanese launched in two directions.

                The Japanese Hayabusa 2 probe left the orbit of the asteroid Ryugu. This is evidenced by telemetry data obtained from the propulsion system of the spacecraft. The probe completed a series of Ryugu studies that lasted almost a year and a half, and headed for Earth along with the extracted rock samples.
                1. 0
                  15 November 2019 12: 57
                  I meant their astronaut. smile
                  1. SSR
                    +4
                    15 November 2019 13: 05
                    Quote: Alexander Petrov1
                    I meant their astronaut. smile

                    Yes I understand.))
                    It's just that the Japanese "flew" to the asteroid, the voyagers went beyond the Solnechnaya, Hubll took what pictures, that is, many are promoting interesting projects in one way or another! We used to have Sputnik, Man, ISS and now ....?
                    So I ask, do our or pffff have ideas and projects?
                    1. +2
                      15 November 2019 13: 09
                      Quote from S.S.R.
                      So I ask, do our or pffff have ideas and projects?

                      There is ! trampoline and saw space! They sawed the Angara, sawed the East, but Cosmos did not saw it yet fellow
                      1. SSR
                        +4
                        15 November 2019 13: 24
                        Quote: Stroporez
                        Quote from S.S.R.
                        So I ask, do our or pffff have ideas and projects?

                        There is ! trampoline and saw space! They sawed the Angara, sawed the East, but Cosmos did not saw it yet fellow

                        Hi!))) No, I'm not a bit about that.
                        Eastern and so on, it's all on earth, but "for example" send a "module" to the moon or Mars that would try to create a "dome", plant and grow in that soil plants and a group of bacteria with insects such as blackbirds ... but at least it was interesting to observe would. Will they not fly? Will it grow or not? Will they survive or not? Do they mutate or not? etc.)))
                        1. +2
                          15 November 2019 14: 42
                          Quote from S.S.R.
                          it would be interesting to observe though. Do not fly to fly? Will it grow or not? Will they survive or not? Mutate or not? etc.)))

                          Quote from S.S.R.
                          it would be interesting to observe though. Do not fly to fly? Will it grow or not? Will they survive or not? Mutate or not? etc.)))

                          If only together with ragosin and his son to heaps, released from the "trampoline", and it is in them to breed "Drosdophila" and other monocellular organisms, then an artificial intiquasilect will be quite realistic! fellow
                    2. +1
                      15 November 2019 13: 11
                      So far, our Rogozin has only state prizes ... laughing
        2. +1
          15 November 2019 11: 42
          Can someone from the members of the forum tell me?
          Really interesting.


          ROSKOSMOS, although it is sausage, but something is done anyway.

          Spektr-RG. The only X-ray observatory for the next minimum 10 years. The program was carried out not without problems and the American mirrors were there, there were difficulties in flight, but it had already reached the Lagrange point and began work.

          1. +2
            15 November 2019 12: 03
            Quote: Choi
            ROSKOSMOS, although it is sausage, but something is done anyway.

            The project at the cost of 250 million rubles to replace the mirror on it failed, I had to return the old one.
            The large azimuthal telescope (BTA) of the Special Astrophysical Observatory (CAO) of the Russian Academy of Sciences is again observing celestial objects. In 2018, the observatory replaced the main element of the telescope - a mirror with a diameter of 6 m, but it turned out to be unsuitable for full-fledged work. The 1979 mirror was returned to the telescope.
          2. +3
            15 November 2019 13: 38
            Quote: Choi
            ROSKOSMOS, although it is sausage, but something is done anyway.

            The completion of the construction of the ISS Russian segment has again been postponed.
            According to Nikolay Sevastyanov, General Director of RSC Energia, the launch of the Nauka science and energy module has been postponed for a year; the nodal module “Berth” - on the 2021-th, and the scientific and energy module - on the 2023-th years. Initially, the ISS Russian segment was planned to be assembled by the 2015 year.
            1. 0
              15 November 2019 15: 28
              Quote: RUSS
              The completion of the construction of the ISS Russian segment has again been postponed.
              According to Nikolay Sevastyanov, General Director of RSC Energia, the launch of the Nauka science and energy module has been postponed for a year; the nodal module “Berth” - on the 2021-th, and the scientific and energy module - on the 2023-th years. Initially, the ISS Russian segment was planned to be assembled by the 2015 year.


              I say sausage. Most likely, science will not fly at all, since no one wants to take responsibility for the expired module. No one guarantees that his problem is only in the tanks. And if something happens in orbit, this is a completely different conversation. Therefore, they will keep it on the ground as long as possible. If the United States says tomorrow that the ISS will not continue until 2028 and there will be no further extension, then consider the Russian Federation and there will be nowhere to fly.
        3. +2
          15 November 2019 11: 47
          Quote from S.S.R.
          The Chinese are launching, the Europeans are launching with the Americans, and are we space pioneers doing something new or not in this direction?
          This question is not for you specifically, but in general.
          Can someone from the members of the forum tell me?

          I know who can accurately tell and tell - Rogozin ... wassat
          Do you want me to make a small assumption about what Russia is doing in this direction?
          Remember when the French threw the Mistrals and me? How did Siemens resent the supply of gas turbine equipment to Crimea? And how long did Denmark run in front of the SP-2? And how in Holland they get rid of examinations on the downed Boeing?
          So, Russia also delivered them
          the landing platform for which was created by Roscosmos

          And how it will go down and where - we will find out after the start ... wassat
          1. 0
            15 November 2019 11: 58
            Quote: ROSS 42
            And how it will go down and where - we will find out after the start ..

            What??? Trampoline also stolen ?????
        4. +1
          15 November 2019 11: 54
          Really interesting.

          And here is what we have. Do not be too lazy to see, get a lot of pleasure:
          https://yandex.uz/video/preview?filmId=1010355047293396087&text=стихи%20попам%20освещающим%20ракеты&noreask=1&path=wizard&parent-reqid=1573807779936581-1467278738033612827200128-man1-1449&redircnt=1573807792.1
        5. +1
          15 November 2019 12: 00
          here, nanostels rockets! sho would not see the adversary! laughing soldier
        6. +2
          15 November 2019 12: 25
          We recall the achievements of our ancestors and are proud of them as our achievements ....
        7. 0
          15 November 2019 12: 44
          something was like MARS-500 ground research, there are people there, I think they kept me locked up for a year
          1. +2
            15 November 2019 13: 59
            Quote: Charik
            something was like MARS-500 ground research, there are people there, I think they kept me locked up for a year

            The only experiment I've heard about is the Russia-8400. It began in 1991, and plan to finish in 2014 ... But there is every chance that it will be extended for at least another 6 years ... People cannot wean. Inland understands that one cannot live like that anymore, especially those who did not fall behind a brick wall or inside one of the rings of the Moscow Ring Road, but cannot do anything.
            laughing
            1. 0
              15 November 2019 16: 46
              and in Wikipedia it’s written about Mars500
            2. 0
              15 November 2019 16: 50
              why did I remember about Mars500, while in the suburbs we worked in Korolev with a friend- (for the sake of telling him, I would have closed in Mars500 for a couple of years, hop turned out to be a millionaire, than to destroy at a construction site)
        8. 0
          15 November 2019 13: 59
          Of course we do! Long-term construction of the Vostochny cosmodrome, organization of the institute of confessors of Rospilkosmos!
        9. +2
          15 November 2019 14: 17
          are we space pioneers doing something new or not in this direction?

          "Pioneers" is the Soviet leadership, not to be confused with "WE"
          "WE" -living on oil and gas dallars
          we don’t need our own aviation to fly to a Boeing
          © here is the whole picture so far, all these attempts with the premature ms-21 and the Superjet will be in their infancy in 20 years and for another 20 years, if nothing changes in our "elite".
          It is more profitable for "US" to invest in American papers than to invest in our technologies and make money on high-tech products, + rip off the people with loans, prices and conditions
          Therefore, why do we need to go into space ????? Why do we need discoveries ????? Tear the feeder so far with her, and then to the west with the children, but here even the grass does not grow
        10. 0
          15 November 2019 15: 20
          Quote from S.S.R.
          Are we space pioneers doing something new or not in this direction?
          This question is not for you specifically, but in general.
          Can someone from the members of the forum tell me?
          Really interesting.


          Already practically done:



          This is the Russian landing module "Kazachok" with a long-lived on-planet Mars station of the ExoMars program. It is the carrier of the European rover "Rosalind Franklin". Together with the European flight module, it is an automatic interplanetary station ExoMars-2020. The Proton-M LV with the Briz-M RB will be launched, just like its predecessor, the TGO probe in the ExoMars-2016 mission, which is now in orbit near Mars. The mass of the landing platform is 827,9 kg, including 45 kg of scientific instruments. A platform landing is planned at the Oxia Planum site.

          The launch is planned for next summer.
          1. -1
            15 November 2019 16: 22
            “Zenith” with “Phobos-soil” failed, “Proton-M” will succeed? ..
            1. 0
              15 November 2019 16: 55
              Quote: Dikson
              “Zenith” with “Phobos-soil” failed, “Proton-M” will succeed? ..


              Inattentively read laughing

              On March 14, 2016, the Proton-M launch vehicle with the Briz-M upper stage sent the ExoMars-2016 TGO station to Mars, with Russian instruments on board. On October 19, 2016, the station reached Martian orbit. He is currently conducting research on Mars.



              On July 13, 2019, the Proton-M launch vehicle with the DM-03 upper stage sent the Spektr-RG Russian astrophysical observatory to the L2 Lagrange point, which is one and a half million kilometers from Earth behind the Moon. On October 21, after a successful trajectory correction maneuver, the Spektr-RG spacecraft entered the nominal working trajectory around the L2 point and formed a halo orbit, which will be maintained throughout its operation. Preparations have begun for scanning the sky for stellar charting.



              Everything worked out. laughing
      2. 0
        15 November 2019 11: 38
        Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi
        In the Chinese give!
        Well done boys. Good things learned to do.
        Progress under the clear leadership of the party is taking leaps and bounds.

        Coming soon: Watch the documentary "The Secret of the Yellow Planet" on TV!
      3. +6
        15 November 2019 11: 48
        It is not the Chinese who give it, we have been marking the place for 30 years already.
        1. +1
          15 November 2019 14: 26
          Quote: Clever man
          It is not the Chinese who give it, we have been marking the place for 30 years already.

          This is exactly
    2. +1
      15 November 2019 10: 57
      It will be possible to make orders on Mars with Ali
    3. +7
      15 November 2019 10: 58
      The Chinese looked at Roscosmos with the Phobos mission .. and decided - well, in fig .. - we will do everything ourselves and fly on our own .. The rod is in development on all fronts .. And sooner or later the quantity will turn into quality ..
      1. +4
        15 November 2019 11: 01
        Quote: Dikson
        The Chinese looked at Roscosmos with the Phobos mission .. and decided - well, in fig .. - we will do everything ourselves and fly on our own .. The rod is in development on all fronts .. And sooner or later the quantity will turn into quality ..

        If you study hard for a long time, it will surely work out, then what you need.
      2. +6
        15 November 2019 11: 02
        You did not notice, but if you took Ali from factory stores, then the quality is simply exorbitant and the price is low.
        1. +3
          15 November 2019 11: 29
          Quote: evgen1221
          If you take Ali from factory stores


          How to recognize it?
          1. +1
            15 November 2019 16: 49
            Everything is written there. 1-in the name of the official store. 2- seller rating and how many years he has been trading. 3-read reviews before buying. Everything is nowhere easier.
    4. 0
      15 November 2019 11: 00
      Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi
      In the Chinese give!
      Well done boys. Good things learned to do.
      Progress under the clear leadership of the party is taking leaps and bounds.

      Well done, well done, that’s understandable. When the platform successfully lands on Mars, then let's say that they are doing well, as they should.
      1. +8
        15 November 2019 11: 04
        The development and study of the Red Planet is moving systematically. It is a pity that so far without much involvement of Russia ...
        1. +1
          15 November 2019 11: 12
          It is possible that a flight to Mars with the current level of development can be carried out by several countries, including the Russian Federation. But no one in the world has yet been able to formulate an answer to the main Martian task - why?
          1. +5
            15 November 2019 11: 34
            Quote: Gost2012
            But no one in the world has yet been able to formulate an answer to the main Martian task - why?

            Here is such a person, a creature that even DOESN'T do ... he is simply interested.
            Although, everything will have to move away from the planet, not tomorrow, so after tomorrow. There are NO worthless studies in this direction.
          2. 0
            15 November 2019 13: 01
            Quote: Gost2012
            But no one in the world has yet been able to formulate an answer to the main Martian task - why?

            Well, why? There was a person who could set goals and formulate answers. And with the same emphasis as the question
            Quote: Gost2012
            why?

            PS Such questions were not asked to him.
            1. +1
              15 November 2019 13: 32
              You correctly noticed the accent, I meant it. I am not his fan even once, but I completely agree that he was not asked such questions. I also think that he did not pose stupid tasks, but he could well have asked the specified question himself, as it was in my post - why? It would be curious to know his reaction, to the answer "we are just interested, that's how we are people"
              1. 0
                15 November 2019 14: 31
                Quote: Gost2012
                It would be curious to know his reaction, to the answer "we are just interested, that's how we are people"

                One option: Lawrence! Then the interested people came to you! Rather, they are curious. Ask who they are and close the question ...
                1. 0
                  15 November 2019 14: 54
                  The last sentence contains the redundant word "question ...".
                  But, IMHO, the same answer to the proposal "let's spend a bunch of funds and resources of the country, and organize a flight to Mars, it may turn out to be useful, and it's just interesting", it could end not "close", but "at the expense of sabotage"
                  1. -1
                    15 November 2019 15: 01
                    Quote: Gost2012
                    and let's spend a lot of money and resources of the country, and organize a flight to Mars, it may turn out to be useful, and it's just interesting

                    Another (shorter) answer: Lavrentiy! Here comrades want to Mars. For people's money ...
        2. +8
          15 November 2019 11: 12
          Quote: bouncyhunter
          It is a pity that so far without much involvement of Russia ...

          Here every man for himself ... And our Chinese "trucks" do not need anything, they already have their own ... I am generally amazed when the forum users start looking for "friends" in the Chinese in every topic .. Masochists? Brother lives in the Far East- " This is our zimlya, uhadi, Russian ... "And you're all here," Russian and Chinese brothers forever. "
          1. +7
            15 November 2019 11: 16
            While China is profitable, it is a "fellow traveler and ally" of the Russian Federation. What can happen if paths and interests diverge? Yes
            1. +7
              15 November 2019 11: 31
              Quote: bouncyhunter
              And what can happen if the ways and interests diverge?


              So an example of this in our history: first words, then Damansky
              1. +6
                15 November 2019 11: 38
                It was about Damansky that I thought when I wrote the previous comment.
                1. +7
                  15 November 2019 11: 47
                  Quote: bouncyhunter
                  It was about Damansky that I thought when I wrote the previous comment.

                  How can you doubt the "brothers forever"! Arming China, we grow the enemy
                  1. 0
                    15 November 2019 11: 55
                    Quote: Silvestr
                    Quote: bouncyhunter
                    It was about Damansky that I thought when I wrote the previous comment.

                    How can you doubt the "brothers forever"! Arming China, we grow the enemy

                    Is it true? And what about "friends" in the US 90s? Or how ? Forgot? Have you decided to recoup the Chinese?
                    They (China), unlike the United States, do not throw us. In any case, for now ...
                    1. +5
                      15 November 2019 12: 01
                      Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
                      And what about "friends" in the US 90s?

                      So their main friend in the States lives Kozyrev.
            2. +3
              15 November 2019 11: 38
              Quote: bouncyhunter
              While China is profitable, it is a "fellow traveler and ally" of the Russian Federation. What can happen if paths and interests diverge? Yes

              Now it's time, at the expense of the brothers forever, finally no one can bother .... find a normal fellow traveler and then consider it lucky!
              1. +6
                15 November 2019 11: 49
                Quote: rocket757
                find a normal fellow traveler and then consider yourself lucky!


                Now "everyone for himself." It would be nice if travel companions pay
                1. +2
                  15 November 2019 11: 54
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  Now "everyone for himself." It would be nice if travel companions pay

                  This is also not new ... repetition, mother of learning.
                  By the way, all sorts of cunning-wise, at the expense of others who often end up in the wrong place.
                  It happens.
                  1. +7
                    15 November 2019 11: 58
                    Quote: rocket757
                    By the way, all sorts of cunning-wise, at the expense of others who often end up in the wrong place.
                    It happens.

                    In the 2000s, when the bomber moonlighted, there were similar tax evaders. I had to knock out the grandmother. It’s ridiculous to remember now, and then I went with a half-meter screwdriver. Happened hi
                    1. 0
                      15 November 2019 16: 27
                      They could give a lot for a screwdriver .. I had a bomb with a sapper blade familiar to me .. He was more comfortable with her after the second Chechen one ..
                      1. +3
                        15 November 2019 16: 31
                        Quote: Dikson
                        They could give a lot for a screwdriver ..

                        So she twist the screws and nothing more! True big screwdrivers
          2. +1
            15 November 2019 11: 55
            Quote: GKS 2111
            .I'm generally amazed when the members of the forum are looking for "friends" in the Chinese in every topic .. Masochists? Brother lives in the Far East- "this is our zimlya, uhadi, Russian ..." And you’re all here- "Russian and Chinese brothers forever ".

            With the current "intelligible" policy, a little time will pass and our country will dissolve in China along the Volga itself.
        3. +3
          15 November 2019 11: 35
          Quote: bouncyhunter
          The development and study of the Red Planet is moving systematically. It is a pity that so far without much involvement of Russia ...

          We will console ourselves with the justification that now it’s just such a time for us .... not a black band, but when we get to white it’s not at all clear. In the gray zone, however.
          1. +7
            15 November 2019 11: 39
            Quote: rocket757
            In the gray area, however

            There is nothing worse than this "gray" uncertainty. I really hope that this is a temporary phenomenon, although some people argue that "there is nothing more permanent than temporary" ...
            1. +2
              15 November 2019 11: 56
              Quote: bouncyhunter
              "there is nothing more permanent than temporary" ...

              unpleasant condition, however. It is necessary to move and better forward, where we need.
    5. 0
      15 November 2019 11: 10
      Mars Milking the Reds!
    6. +1
      15 November 2019 11: 13
      Americans collect SLS for flights to the moon, the Chinese are testing a landing platform for the Martian mission ...
      Mr. Rogozin, when will we fly to the moon? Do we even have a program in this direction?
      1. +2
        15 November 2019 13: 34
        Quote: Jack O'Neill
        Americans collect SLS for flights to the moon,

        NASA has installed the latest engine on a rocket to fly to the moon
        The first manned flight to the moon since the beginning of the century is planned for 2023.
        At the first stage of the SLS superheavy launch vehicle, with the help of which it is planned to launch the Orion manned spacecraft to the moon in 2024, the last, fourth RS-25 engine is installed, said Jim Brydenstein, head of the United States National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA).

        "The first stage of the SLS rocket, 212 feet (65 meters - IF), with all four RS-25 engines attached, is the largest since NASA built the Saturn V launch vehicle for Apollo (for previous manned missions to the Moon - IF) , - wrote Bridenstine.
      2. 0
        15 November 2019 15: 30
        Quote: Jack O'Neill
        Mr. Rogozin, when will we fly to the moon? Do we even have a program in this direction?


        1. The launch of the Luna-25 automatic interplanetary station is scheduled for the year 2021. The station is in the process of assembly.
        2. A stand is being created for firing tests next year for the first stage of the Irtysh LV (Soyuz-5), which will also be used in the Yenisei super-heavy carrier for launching the manned lunar program.
    7. -2
      15 November 2019 11: 20
      In 2011, together with the Russian station Phobos-Grunt, the first Chinese Martian probe was launched into space, but due to the failure of the on-board computer, both devices were lost. This time ... the spacecraft will go to Mars on the Changzheng 5 rocket

      And it turns out that the Chinese will be the first on Mars.
      And then the astronauts will be landed on the moon, and also the first.

      1. +6
        15 November 2019 11: 30
        NASA spoke in excitement in Russian. laughing
        1. +3
          15 November 2019 12: 00
          Quote: voyaka uh
          NASA spoke in excitement in Russian.

          Yes The shadow of a man drinking from a glass is visible in the photo. And what do you think: what nationality is the anonymous robot drinking companion? laughing
      2. -1
        15 November 2019 12: 48
        Picture for people who have never seen this Mars rover and its selfie stick
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    9. +2
      15 November 2019 11: 33
      Good luck with this scientific mission!
    10. -2
      15 November 2019 11: 34
      We reduced the backlog from the USA to 20 years. Well done
    11. 0
      15 November 2019 11: 45
      European "Exomars", the landing platform for which was created by "Roscosmos"


      It is doubtful. In their trials twice already parachutes were torn. The English company that was supposed to sew these parachutes seemed to be replaced by a contractor from NASA. They need to re-develop the parachute system, manufacture and test again. So I do not think that they will be in time in 2020.
    12. +5
      15 November 2019 12: 15
      The Chinese were late to discover America, Antarctica, Australia, and Oceania. Now they are making up for lost time. Chosen to continue the tradition of mankind in the first discovery of the Moon and Mars. We continue to be proud that a citizen of the USSR was the first to fly into space, the first to go into outer space. The first was the lunar rover - an automatic robotic apparatus landed on the moon with the help of Soviet automatic stations. There was also the Soviet space orbital station Mir, but it was successfully flooded in the Pacific Ocean due to the "expiration of its service life." I have not heard about Russian achievements in space exploration, except that at one time they said that a space engine park was allegedly opened in Russia to deliver tourists and Americans to the ISS. Well, at least something. A well-functioning taxi is also good. But here, too, something does not work out today. Most likely, it will not work out tomorrow either. We stock up on popcorn (vobla and beer can be used) and watch the conquest of space by the Chinese and Americans on TV. It's interesting, almost like watching English Premier League soccer matches.
    13. 0
      15 November 2019 12: 24
      Justice must triumph. It is not for nothing that Mars is called the red planet, and not the striped one. In short, they need to install a DBM with a DShK on their rover. In case of meeting with an American competitor.
    14. +2
      15 November 2019 12: 26
      Note that the 2020 year is scheduled not only for the Chinese mission to Mars. In the summer of next year, the American "Mars-2020" and the European "Exomars", the landing platform for which "Roskosmos" created, will also go to Mars

      I do not know ?! Who, with whom, when? But, if you remember, a year or two ago, we were openly shown the training of the "crew" for a flight to Mars. Several guys and a couple of women were kept in an isolated "cabin" - 500 days! There was a research experiment on the survival and psychological compatibility of a limited composition, in a limited space, in conditions of constant weightlessness, and not sure that they would survive or return to Earth.
      Judging by how quickly this "movie" was turned off, and this topic is not "pedaled" now,
      and Ragozin trolls the World about "trampolines", it can be concluded that ours sharply began to "hush up" their prospects for such flights. At the same time, even from the mouth of the president, from time to time, "hints" were voiced about the proximity of Russia,
      to the creation of rocket engines on "nuclear fuel" and even "other physical properties". What is it ? This is not the "chatter of a screwy secretary" in a pub, or subtle trolling of "partners"? This is a clear hint, as with the "accidentally" overt "Status" scheme.
      Personally, I draw a conclusion from this. Now life has made us
      cover your "soul for plowing", which we did after the USSR.
      Yes, we freely cover in the media all our new products and even their quantity, and where they are "located", making it easier for the intelligence of "partners". But this is nonsense.
      I'm sure this is the "shell" of the cover, of deeper achievements. And I will not be surprised that a year or two, before the flights to Mars, the USA or China, in Russia, a flight to Mars with a crew - several loons on board - will suddenly "shoot". As long as I'm alive, I believe in it. We are obliged to do this for the sake of the memory of Korolev - Gagarin, and everyone who was involved in this. Tell me how naive!
      My answer is, I am not naive, I am a "non-slaughter" optemist! Yes
    15. +2
      15 November 2019 12: 27
      what's our module for the micros ??
      1. +3
        15 November 2019 13: 23
        Again delays.
        Information published on the website of the Rocket and Space Corporation Energia suggests that the creation of the Russian segment of the International Space Station (ISS) is delayed for at least a year.

        MLM will go to Baikonur in preparation for launch in January next year. It was planned to launch the berth block into space in 2021, the NEM block in 2022.

        However, the presentation slides published in the framework of the XIII International scientific-practical conference “Manned space flights” suggest that the scientific and energy module will go into orbit in 2023. Thus, the completion of the creation of the ISS Russian segment is delayed again.


        Science seems to have reached a minimum level and will soon be sent to the cosmodrome. However, there also seems to be a catch / hidden delay for a couple of months.
        1. +1
          15 November 2019 16: 12
          Quote: donavi49
          say that the science and energy module will go into orbit in 2023. Thus, the completion of the creation of the ISS Russian segment is delayed again.


          This is uncritical. First, you need to put into operation the MLM-U. And the ISS are going to renew until the year 2028.
          1. 0
            15 November 2019 19: 06
            Quote: slipped
            This is uncritical. First, you need to put into operation the MLM-U. And the ISS are going to renew until the year 2028.


            Yes, it’s time already, since 1995, they have been developing science and still can’t start it, only the deadlines are moving, it seems that they don’t plan to launch anything at all, they just pull the time for the ISS to be completed and say, we didn’t have time . The timing situation is generally not funny ...
            1. +1
              15 November 2019 19: 23
              Quote: Aleksandr21
              Yes, it’s time already, since 1995, they have been developing science and still cannot launch it,


              Until 2007, it was an empty FGB backup case. The creation of MLM began in 2007. The module was made in 2013. It could fly away in 2015, but found defects in the pipelines. Most likely, the FGB flew with similar ones earlier, since everything was done for both of them simultaneously. The attempt to correct was extended, for various reasons, for another five years. Flies next year, the rocket for him is already at the spaceport. They are not going to do more of such modules - another model has been developed and is being created.

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