200-I Motorized Rifle Brigade SF completed the rearmament of the modernized T-80BVM

200-I Motorized Rifle Brigade SF completed the rearmament of the modernized T-80BVM

Tanks T-80BVM from the 200th Omsbr SF. Photo November 2019


The last batch of modernized T-80BVM tanks this year, in the amount of 26 vehicles, entered service with the 200th Separate Motorized Rifle Brigade of the North fleet, thereby completing the rearmament of the tank battalion of the compound. This was reported by the press service of the Northern Fleet.

According to the report, the received batch of 26 T-80BVM tanks was modernized at the Omsktransmash plant, which is part of Uralvagonzavod. This is the second batch of tanks upgraded to the T-80BVM level, which entered this brigade, the first came in the 2018 year. Tankers of a tank battalion that has undergone rearmament have previously undergone retraining, and will enter the new period of combat training with their own equipment.

On November 1 of this year, the Omsktransmash press service announced the shipment of a batch of modernized MBT T-80БВМ. Earlier, the Ministry of Defense reported that it had concluded a contract with UVZ in 2017 for the modernization of the 62 T-80BV tanks to the T-80BVM level with delivery to the 31 tank in 2018 and 2019.

The T-80B tank and its modifications were produced at Omsktransmash JSC from 1979 to 1991 a year. The latest modification was the T-80BV tank, adopted by the Soviet army in the 1985 year. MBT T-80BVM - a new version of the modernization of the tank, developed in Omsk.

The tank is equipped with a modified gas turbine engine with 1250 horsepower, which allows you to increase the driving performance and mobility of the machine on all terrain and develop speeds up to 70 km / h. The unique properties of the gas turbine engine give the T-80BVM an advantage when operating in low temperatures in the Far North and the Arctic.

The machine, which underwent a deep modernization, is equipped with an 125-mm gun, which has the ability to fire guided missiles, a multi-channel sight, an weapon stabilizer and a driver’s observation device. The tank is protected from fire by a complex of modular dynamic protection and an anti-cumulative lattice screen.

In Soviet times, more than 10 of thousands of T-80 tanks of various modifications were produced. Currently, 3 thousand "eighty", which are considered a strategic reserve in case of war, is located in military warehouses. The decision to de-arm part of the tanks and modernize it was taken by the Ministry of Defense in 2016.
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  1. seti 14 November 2019 14: 53 New
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    Good news. But 62 units, as for me, do not do the weather. So I hope the contract will be increased and we will wait for a new replenishment.
    1. Sky strike fighter 14 November 2019 15: 04 New
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      Well, okay.
      T-80BVM is a further modernization of the T-80BVM tank - the world's first main tank with built-in anti-shell dynamic protection. It is equipped with a Sosna-U multi-channel gunner’s sight, a more advanced 125mm 2A46M-4 gun, a modified gas turbine engine and Relikt dynamic protection.

      According to TASS, citing the Russian Army in Comparison reference issued by the Russian Ministry of Defense, the modernized tank was able to use ammunition with a depleted uranium core. The T-80BVM also has an improved weapon stabilizer and loading mechanism for ammunition 3BM59 “Lead-1”, 3BM60 “Lead-2”. The armor-piercing feathered sub-caliber projectile “Lead-1” has a tungsten carbide core, and “Lead-2” has a core with a uranium alloy.
      "Lead-1" is capable of penetrating about 740 millimeters of uniform armor at a distance of up to two kilometers, and "Lead-2" - up to 830 mm of armor at the same distance. The alloy of depleted uranium with tungsten, which is used in ammunition, is known to specialists as material “B”.

      https://www.popmech.ru/weapon/news-455422-tank-t-80bvm-poluchil-snaryady-s-materialom-b/
    2. loki565 14 November 2019 15: 04 New
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      It’s unlikely with the turbine, an expensive treat, and the diesel power has almost equaled .. They’re modernizing what is being stored, not to miss the good)))
      1. seti 14 November 2019 15: 10 New
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        Expensive not expensive but in cold weather, a turbine is preferable to a diesel engine. In the Russian North there is no dust, which is also important. More expensive yes, more fuel consumption yes. But this is not critical. We need mobility, fast start-up, and long-distance mobility. This gives the T-80BVM
        1. loki565 14 November 2019 15: 21 New
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          Well, so all northern all-terrain vehicles including Vityaz are diesel engines and seem to cope with the norms. Fuel consumption is greater so that he certainly will not go further. Power 1250 HP and at T 72B3 1130l.s. There will be no new ones, only modernization from storage. And where are you going to produce new ones, in Ukraine ???)))
          1. carstorm 11 14 November 2019 15: 36 New
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            what does Ukraine have to do with it?))) it’s Klimov’s engines))) it was not in power but in other factors. from pick-up to basic operational readiness.
          2. Kurare 14 November 2019 15: 45 New
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            Quote: loki565
            Well, so all northern all-terrain vehicles including Vityaz are diesel engines and seem to cope with the norms.

            At temperatures below -25 °, they try not to turn off the diesel engine at all, since it is very difficult to start it later. In addition, a water cooling system. In northern conditions - this is still that hemorrhagic.
            A gas turbine engine can be drowned out without wasting a motor cycle and, most importantly, started again with minimal training.
            Quote: loki565
            Power 1250 HP and at T 72B3 1130l.s.

            Here, not only power plays a role. The throttle response of a gas turbine engine and its handling are simply not comparable. There is a video on the Internet where the T-80 neatly rolls a nail into a tree.
            Quote: loki565
            where are you going to produce new ones, in Ukraine ???

            Plant them. Malysheva in Kharkov over the past 8 years released ONE new tank! In addition, 80s with GTE were produced where they were modernized now, i.e. in Omsk.
            1. Doliva63 14 November 2019 17: 34 New
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              Quote: Kurare
              Quote: loki565
              Well, so all northern all-terrain vehicles including Vityaz are diesel engines and seem to cope with the norms.

              At temperatures below -25 °, they try not to turn off the diesel engine at all, since it is very difficult to start it later. In addition, a water cooling system. In northern conditions - this is still that hemorrhagic.
              A gas turbine engine can be drowned out without wasting a motor cycle and, most importantly, started again with minimal training.
              Quote: loki565
              Power 1250 HP and at T 72B3 1130l.s.

              Here, not only power plays a role. The throttle response of a gas turbine engine and its handling are simply not comparable. There is a video on the Internet where the T-80 neatly rolls a nail into a tree.
              Quote: loki565
              where are you going to produce new ones, in Ukraine ???

              Plant them. Malysheva in Kharkov over the past 8 years released ONE new tank! In addition, 80s with GTE were produced where they were modernized now, i.e. in Omsk.

              In the "shaggy" 80s, the serviceable T-72 started at any temperature, after 40 years it got worse? lol
              1. Kurare 14 November 2019 17: 37 New
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                Quote: Doliva63
                In the "shaggy" 80s, the serviceable T-72 started at any temperature

                No one denies this. But how long does it take to warm up the systems? I don’t remember exactly, you can correct, but not less than 20 minutes. It was.
                1. Doliva63 14 November 2019 17: 43 New
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                  Quote: Kurare
                  Quote: Doliva63
                  In the "shaggy" 80s, the serviceable T-72 started at any temperature

                  No one denies this. But how long does it take to warm up the systems? I don’t remember exactly, you can correct, but not less than 20 minutes. It was.

                  If anything, there is such a button, the "emergency launch" is called, it does not require any heating.
                  1. Kurare 14 November 2019 17: 47 New
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                    Quote: Doliva63
                    ... there is such a button, the "emergency launch" is called, it does not require any heating.

                    I did not know about the button. But, even if you use this chip, what do you think will happen to the diesel engine after several such starts?
                    1. Doliva63 14 November 2019 17: 57 New
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                      Quote: Kurare
                      Quote: Doliva63
                      ... there is such a button, the "emergency launch" is called, it does not require any heating.

                      I did not know about the button. But, even if you use this chip, what do you think will happen to the diesel engine after several such starts?

                      You don’t know the subject of the conversation, go on, learn the materiel, then continue.
                      1. Kurare 14 November 2019 17: 59 New
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                        Quote: Doliva63
                        You don’t know the subject of the conversation, go on, learn the materiel, then continue.

                        Well, everything seems to be given to no one. )) But in engines and in diesel engines I understand a little and know perfectly well what happens to them when they are started without heating. So, it is not yet known who needs to learn the materiel hi
                      2. Doliva63 14 November 2019 18: 08 New
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                        Quote: Kurare
                        Quote: Doliva63
                        You don’t know the subject of the conversation, go on, learn the materiel, then continue.

                        Well, everything seems to be given to no one. )) But in engines and in diesel engines I understand a little and know perfectly well what happens to them when they are started without heating. So, it is not yet known who needs to learn the materiel hi

                        And that's all. You need to know the subject - the use of tank units, so, like, it is now called. During his studies, he studied and mastered the use and operation of the PT 76, T 54, T 55, T 62, T 64, T 72, T 80. I believe that in this aspect the materiel should be taught to you. drinks
                      3. Kurare 14 November 2019 18: 20 New
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                        Quote: Doliva63
                        During his studies, he studied and mastered the use and operation of PT 76, T 54, T 55, T 62, T 64, T 72, T 80.

                        Nobody calls into question your competence. I myself wrote what I don’t know, I don’t know. But as far as engine building is concerned, I'm really a little familiar with this.
                      4. Doliva63 14 November 2019 18: 26 New
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                        Quote: Kurare
                        Quote: Doliva63
                        During his studies, he studied and mastered the use and operation of PT 76, T 54, T 55, T 62, T 64, T 72, T 80.

                        Nobody calls into question your competence. I myself wrote what I don’t know, I don’t know. But as far as engine building is concerned, I'm really a little familiar with this.

                        Engine building has little to do with the operation of engines in fact.
              2. Alexga 14 November 2019 20: 29 New
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                This is a PVV system, the plant guarantees 20 such launches. Eighties may have trouble starting at low temperatures. Turn the turbine for 40 seconds. Only battery, no other.
    3. yustas 14 November 2019 16: 04 New
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      What does Ukraine have to do with it? They were quite normal in Omsk
    4. mmrr 15 November 2019 06: 14 New
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      And here Ukraine)) the T-80 was made in Omsk, and the T-72 in Nizhny Tagil. The T-80 was modernized in the same place in Omsk. And in Ukraine, one tank was released in ten years)) In Ukraine, during the Soviet era, a small amount of T-80UD, which was later renamed T-84.
  2. Lars971a 14 November 2019 17: 24 New
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    In terms of fuel consumption 1 km of T-80 7.5 l, 1 km of T-72 5.5 l, 2 liter difference, the difference is not critical, but the power is higher
    1. Doliva63 14 November 2019 17: 49 New
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      Quote: Lars971A
      In terms of fuel consumption 1 km of T-80 7.5 l, 1 km of T-72 5.5 l, 2 liter difference, the difference is not critical, but the power is higher

      With a cruising range of 500 km. non-critical difference per tonne per 1 machine, however. In the GSVG there used to be a sea of ​​“fillers” that could support with fuel, are there many of them in the North?
      1. Lars971a 14 November 2019 18: 03 New
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        Quote: Doliva63
        In the GSVG there used to be a sea of ​​“fillers” that could support with fuel, are there many of them in the North?
        In the North, they are unlikely to make marches for 500 km. There they cover certain territories. I think that tanks are needed there as armored maneuvering points. It is not written after the modernization that the GTA-80A auxiliary power unit was installed or not on the T-18BVM, if so it’s just wonderful, if not, it’s just that they didn’t do it in vain. In the North it would be great
        1. Doliva63 14 November 2019 18: 24 New
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          Quote: Lars971A
          Quote: Doliva63
          In the GSVG there used to be a sea of ​​“fillers” that could support with fuel, are there many of them in the North?
          In the North, they are unlikely to make marches for 500 km. There they cover certain territories. I think that tanks are needed there as armored maneuvering points. It is not written after the modernization that the GTA-80A auxiliary power unit was installed or not on the T-18BVM, if so it’s just wonderful, if not, it’s just that they didn’t do it in vain. In the North it would be great

          I’m not a rear manager, unfortunately, I don’t know how they calculate the provision of fuel, but when everyone has the same thing, it’s probably easier. I am not against the T-80 at all, a good car, but it’s easier for me to imagine it on the European autobahns than in the north laughing
          1. Lars971a 15 November 2019 18: 47 New
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            [quote I'm not a loggerhead, unfortunately, I don’t know how they calculate fuel supply] [/ quote] The main type of fuel for the T-80 is kerosene, the additional type is diesel and gasoline, as well as a mixture of these types of fuel in any ratio. Also + for the T-80 that you don’t need to pump oil from the BKP at the T-72 it is a necessary element you need to pump oil from the BKP, and this is a minus in the North. You can still discuss for a long time, but I will say briefly for areas with low temperatures the T-80 is what we need and not one tank can compare with it, this is definitely
            1. Doliva63 15 November 2019 19: 01 New
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              Quote: Lars971A
              [quoteI am not a rear guard, unfortunately, I do not know how they calculate the provision of fuel and lubricants]
              The main type of fuel for the T-80 is kerosene, the additional is diesel fuel and gasoline, as well as a mixture of these types of fuel in any ratio. Also, for T-80, you don’t need to pump oil from BKP at T-72, this is a necessary element oil from BKP, and this is a minus in the North. You can still discuss for a long time, but I will say briefly for areas with low temperatures the T-80 is what we need and not one tank can compare with it, it is unambiguous [/ quote]
              Not a supporter of such ambiguities, but I also liked the 80-ka, although I was rather a 72-person. Well, for the armor! drinks
              1. Lars971a 16 November 2019 14: 16 New
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                [quote] [/ quote] I agree drinks
  • Alexander Petrov1 14 November 2019 15: 19 New
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    It’s good that the military did not write off these wonderful 3000 tanks, which are so useful in the North, and also saved a billion dollars for our country, well done ...
    1. loki565 14 November 2019 15: 31 New
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      Wow, the bins of the motherland)))
      1. Alexander Petrov1 14 November 2019 15: 33 New
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        For NATO barmaley useful ...
  • Andrei Nikolaevich 14 November 2019 14: 55 New
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    Hello to our Sputnik! Well done!
  • Sky strike fighter 14 November 2019 14: 56 New
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    Cool Germans troll about BMW.T-80BMW.
    1. Nikolaevich I 14 November 2019 15: 18 New
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      Quote: Sky Strike fighter
      Cool Germans troll about BMW.T-80BMW.

      Well, well ... I heard that the T-80 was created for a “march-throw” in Western Europe! soldier
  • carstorm 11 14 November 2019 15: 15 New
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    said the sides all in parts take off nafig)))
    1. Arhat 14 November 2019 17: 16 New
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      Could you tell me for what reason?
      1. carstorm 11 14 November 2019 17: 37 New
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        decent intensity of combat training. breaks and tears them. there DZ. it’s much easier to remove them and not to shake over each block as an example. meaning zero and as much trouble as you want from scratch.
        1. Arhat 14 November 2019 17: 40 New
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          Quote: carstorm 11
          decent intensity of combat training. breaks and tears them. there DZ. it’s much easier to remove them and not to shake over each block as an example. meaning zero and as much trouble as you want from scratch.

          Thank you yes
  • Sky strike fighter 14 November 2019 15: 18 New
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    The strike of the T-80BVM on a guided missile target hit the video.
    Link to video.
    https://tvzvezda.ru/news/opk/content/20194121831-gXfEC.html/player/
  • Glory1974 14 November 2019 16: 06 New
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    200-I OMB SF

    Do not count me as a pedant, but there are generally accepted abbreviations. In this case, there should be the 200 I ombre. Maybe for some it’s not essential, but it hurts your eyes and ear.
    Omb is a separate medical battalion.
    I immediately recall Serdyukov, who, as the Minister of Defense, read the document and asked: "What does the BBC have to do with it?"
    In response to him: "This is the Air Force - the Air Force."
    After this incident, it was forbidden to use all abbreviations in the documents, the names only in full.
    In general, this is probably an indicator of professionalism.
    1. chenia 14 November 2019 16: 45 New
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      Quote: glory1974
      200th omsbr.


      At first, I didn’t think at once why they needed tanks?

      Quote: glory1974
      What does the BBC have to do with it? "


      If this is not a joke, then coolly dipped (unexpectedly) in .....
  • Doliva63 14 November 2019 17: 21 New
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    200 OMB is, logically, 200 a separate mechanized battalion, and 200 a separate motorized rifle brigade - 200 Motorized Rifle Brigade, or am I boring? bully
    1. Sergej1972 14 November 2019 19: 56 New
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      There are no mechanized battalions in the Russian Federation.
      1. Doliva63 15 November 2019 18: 31 New
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        Quote: Sergej1972
        There are no mechanized battalions in the Russian Federation.

        When I (in the Union) were. Right now, of course, not in the know.
  • Sergey Averchenkov 14 November 2019 19: 03 New
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    Quote: Doliva63
    Quote: Kurare
    Quote: loki565
    Well, so all northern all-terrain vehicles including Vityaz are diesel engines and seem to cope with the norms.

    At temperatures below -25 °, they try not to turn off the diesel engine at all, since it is very difficult to start it later. In addition, a water cooling system. In northern conditions - this is still that hemorrhagic.
    A gas turbine engine can be drowned out without wasting a motor cycle and, most importantly, started again with minimal training.
    Quote: loki565
    Power 1250 HP and at T 72B3 1130l.s.

    Here, not only power plays a role. The throttle response of a gas turbine engine and its handling are simply not comparable. There is a video on the Internet where the T-80 neatly rolls a nail into a tree.
    Quote: loki565
    where are you going to produce new ones, in Ukraine ???

    Plant them. Malysheva in Kharkov over the past 8 years released ONE new tank! In addition, 80s with GTE were produced where they were modernized now, i.e. in Omsk.

    In the "shaggy" 80s, the serviceable T-72 started at any temperature, after 40 years it got worse? lol

    So with any? wink I apologize right away - I'm not an expert in tanks, but I lived in the extreme north for 25 years (average annual temperature minus 42), and just in shaggy ones. :) We didn’t have any diesels (there were gasoline) except for tractors, and they were not jammed all winter. The diesel fuel in the tanks froze, not to mention the fuel lines.
    1. Dikson 15 November 2019 11: 20 New
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      So the diesel fuel was not arctic .. cheated or saved somewhere ... The usual diesel fuel, yes, that in the cold easily turns into kissel ...))
  • Vladimir_2U 15 November 2019 03: 53 New
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    In a previous article on this topic (in the comments), a doubt flashed about the resistance of the crawler T-80 caterpillar to the cold. So, the gusli of DT "Vityazey" almost all of rubber and plastic and still praise!
    1. Dikson 15 November 2019 11: 22 New
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      In severe frosts, elementary fingers crumble in the tracks .. or burst .. that’s the whole problem ..
      1. Vladimir_2U 15 November 2019 11: 27 New
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        The T-72 also has fingers, and Vityaz has fingers (but this is not accurate). Not an argument against RMSh in the T-80.
      2. Golovan Jack 15 November 2019 11: 29 New
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        Quote: Dikson
        In severe frosts, elementary fingers crumble in the tracks .. or burst .. that’s the whole problem ..

        They themselves saw, Ali suggested who?
        1. Dikson 15 November 2019 12: 52 New
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          I saw more than once ..
          1. Golovan Jack 15 November 2019 13: 00 New
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            Quote: Dikson
            I saw more than once ..

            ... in a dream, probably? wink
            1. Dikson 15 November 2019 13: 08 New
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              Jack, I’m not going to argue with you and prove something to you .. Geography was taught at school, no? Look at my nickname and find it on the map of the USSR. I’ve been living, serving and working for a VERY long time .. Therefore, all the talk here is about supposedly icebreakers, nuclear powered ships, radar battalions in the Arctic, air defense duty, tractors and all-terrain vehicles, the number of crew members in polar aviation and other northern things amuse me for the most part, but at least - upset ... All the best to you.
              1. Golovan Jack 15 November 2019 13: 20 New
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                Quote: Dikson
                Geography was taught at school, no? Look at my nickname

                Ok, with geography clear. The question remained - where did you get the tanks from there, which ones, and why did you break their fingers? laughing

                And so - yes, I also saw how in the cold from the impact the rail falls to pieces. But this is an isolated case, not a rule. And you write about "as a rule", no?
                1. Dikson 15 November 2019 13: 37 New
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                  As a rule, due to climatic and road conditions, tracked vehicles dominate in the Arctic .. There were no tanks there. But there were enough heavy tracked vehicles .. And the tracks on them, as you probably know, are held together by fingers .. which tend to break in severe frost .. Not always, but such things are not uncommon, but an annoying nuisance .. I do not have in my comments on this topic the phrase "usually" .. Ah! I can write: as a rule, when driving long distances, a good driver-mechanic always has a small sledgehammer at hand .. because these damn fingers tend to get out in good progress, and it is advisable to return them periodically .. Otherwise, there is the possibility of doubtful entertainment picking in the snow at the "hyped" technique ..
                  1. Golovan Jack 15 November 2019 13: 47 New
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                    Quote: Dikson
                    And the tracks on them, as you probably know, are held together by fingers .. which in severe frost tend to break ..

                    ... but only sometimes and not all at once ...

                    Well, the steel was not of the highest quality, there are too many sulfur, for example. Everything happens in this life request

                    Quote: Dikson
                    these damn fingers tend to get out in good progress, and it is advisable to periodically return them to their place ..

                    Believe me, on 64-ke I have never seen a "popped finger." Caterpillars - yes, they flew. But there were no complaints about the fingers ...

                    Okay, I understand you. Thanks for the conversation yes
  • Sergey Averchenkov 15 November 2019 11: 36 New
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    Quote: Dikson
    So the diesel fuel was not arctic .. cheated or saved somewhere ... The usual diesel fuel, yes, that in the cold easily turns into kissel ...))

    I looked ... The freezing point of the Arctic tanning bed is -55. Winter is even worse. And we had the lowest -64, besides, no one will give you a guarantee that at -50 it will not thicken strongly enough. Although it may have cheated ... It was during the USSR.
    1. Dikson 15 November 2019 12: 58 New
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      Well, at -64 ... I wouldn’t turn off the diesel engine either ..))) In any situation .. Muffler - there the condensate on the engine will pick up everything that should rotate - and, hello .. We even had holes in the engine compartments specially - the snow powder is stuffing, melting .. - then this puddle, if God forbid freezing, will grab a crown or something else ..
      1. Golovan Jack 15 November 2019 13: 08 New
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        Interesting ... what kind of cars, and where did this happen, do not specify?

        Quote: Dikson
        You drown it out - there the condensate on the engine will grab everything that should rotate - and, hi ..

        Condensate? On a hot engine, but in the cold? What is it like?

        Quote: Dikson
        We even intentionally bottomed the engine compartments

        Pests. Didn’t you have full-time hatches? And in general - in the snow, but with a hole in the bottom - a bad idea.

        You’re telling some miracles, here’s her wink
        1. Dikson 15 November 2019 13: 22 New
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          In the snow with a hole in the bottom - there was not a door to the cellar cutting through, but several small holes .. - so that water from melted snow did not accumulate in the engine compartment .. This was done in tractors and all-terrain vehicles ..
          1. Golovan Jack 15 November 2019 13: 38 New
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            Quote: Dikson
            In tractors and all-terrain vehicles, this was done ..

            Clear. But I thought about tanks request

            Quote: Dikson
            so that water from melted snow does not accumulate in the engine compartment ..

            I hardly imagine snow in the engine compartment of a tank. There are no paths to get there in the snow.
            1. Dikson 15 November 2019 13: 56 New
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              Snow powder is such disgusting that it can fill into the most microscopic slots, and with long transitions this is a real problem .. There were some pictures of equipment that is openly standing at our newest bases in the Arctic .. Armor and other cars. Imagine - they are standing, standing. The winds are almost constant there .. snow penetrates everywhere. accumulates slowly. You came, warmed up the technique. the snow melted, the water remained. then you drowned out the equipment and left. The water has frozen. And so many times. Then, one fine day, this water (without holes in the bottom, which I wrote about) freezing, grabs you flywheels, pulleys, and other mechanics. So you did not start ... Everything is very simple.
    2. Doliva63 15 November 2019 18: 35 New
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      Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
      Quote: Dikson
      So the diesel fuel was not arctic .. cheated or saved somewhere ... The usual diesel fuel, yes, that in the cold easily turns into kissel ...))

      I looked ... The freezing point of the Arctic tanning bed is -55. Winter is even worse. And we had the lowest -64, besides, no one will give you a guarantee that at -50 it will not thicken strongly enough. Although it may have cheated ... It was during the USSR.

      Relax. At -64 tanks do not have to start, because the enemy in this weather will not go to war, most likely laughing
      And yes, at -53 tanks and infantry fighting vehicles start up, personally verified. And also in the USSR.
      1. Sergey Averchenkov 15 November 2019 18: 56 New
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        And I didn’t bother. In such weather, not only the enemy, but I would not go anywhere. :)
        1. Doliva63 15 November 2019 19: 03 New
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          Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
          And I didn’t bother. In such weather, not only the enemy, but I would not go anywhere. :)

          For consensus drinks
          1. Sergey Averchenkov 15 November 2019 19: 05 New
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            Well, if only a stack of ... wink
            1. Doliva63 15 November 2019 19: 10 New
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              Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
              Well, if only a stack of ... wink

              Well, within the "people's commissar", of course.
  • Sergey Averchenkov 15 November 2019 18: 54 New
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    Quote: Golovan Jack
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    Geography was taught at school, no? Look at my nickname

    Ok, with geography clear. The question remained - where did you get the tanks from there, which ones, and why did you break their fingers? laughing

    And so - yes, I also saw how in the cold from the impact the rail falls to pieces. But this is an isolated case, not a rule. And you write about "as a rule", no?

    No, not a single one. In our 66s and 131s, it was so often enough - the frames burst in the cold. It seems like after 50 an activated day, but there are works that can not be stopped ... that steel let down.
  • Ratibor_SM 16 November 2019 13: 07 New
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    I always proceed from that - "it is better than nothing." So I think this news is good.