Russian Navy intends to arm itself with combat icebreakers

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Russian Navy intends to arm itself with combat icebreakers

The Russian Navy intends to use combat icebreakers in the Arctic in the future, the number of weapons on board will depend on the areas of use. This was stated by Advisor to the General Director of the Krylovsk State Scientific Center Valery Polyakov.

These will be icebreakers and icebreaking ships, that is, ships capable of moving at a sufficient speed in a continuous ice cover of a certain thickness. In fact, it will be armed icebreakers

- he said.



The Russian fleet intends to use armed icebreakers and icebreaking ships in the Arctic. The number of weapons on board such icebreakers will depend on the thickness of the ice in the areas where they will be used. The ratio of the number of weapons to the ability to pass ice jams of each particular type of icebreaker will depend on the specific areas of its use. Those. where the ice is thinner - there icebreakers will get more weapons, where it is supposed to work in "heavy" ice - there, accordingly, there will be less weapons.

Plans for the construction of combat icebreakers for the Russian Navy are available.

Earlier it was reported that the lead ice class patrol ship of the 23550 project "Ivan Papanin" was launched in St. Petersburg. The second ship of the series will be laid before the end of this year or early next.

Project 23550 ice-class patrol ships (combat icebreakers) were developed by the Almaz Central Marine Design Bureau (TsMKB) as a replacement for project 21180 military icebreakers, on which it was built and transferred the fleet just one icebreaker - Ilya Muromets.

The vessel is capable of performing the tasks of a tugboat, patrol ship and an icebreaker. The ship is intended for the protection and monitoring of water resources in difficult ice conditions, escorting and towing detained vessels to the port, escorting and supporting support vessels, participating in rescue operations, transporting special cargoes.

The icebreaker is capable of speeds up to 18 knots. Displacement - about 8500 tons, length - over 100 m, width - about 20 m, sailing autonomy - about 70 days. Cruising range - 10 thousand nautical miles. An icebreaker can cross ice fields up to 1,7 meters thick.

The ship is armed with automatic AK-176MA artillery. In addition, one multi-purpose helicopter will be based on the ship.
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  1. -1
    14 November 2019 14: 28
    A wonderful military icebreaker and the first and only planet Earth, cool ...
    1. +4
      14 November 2019 14: 41
      The protection of oil and gas areas is important. This is money.
    2. +8
      14 November 2019 14: 51
      Quote: Alexander Petrov1
      A wonderful military icebreaker and the first and only planet Earth, cool ...

      In fact, we have at least 5 military icebreakers in the Navy: patrol icebreakers, project 97P, (an armed icebreaker, originally designed for border guards, but also ordered by the fleet).
      Here are just the Navy, after receiving them, quickly disarmed these ships and reclassified them to ships providing base points.
      1. -1
        14 November 2019 15: 00
        Well, there wasn’t with such a huge ice penetration of 1,7 m and missiles of 2500 km. Caliber, this is the 1st in the world so powerful and dangerous ...
      2. +1
        14 November 2019 16: 58
        How to disarm and arm can be quickly. If there was a will, there would be weapons.
        During the WWII, 76 mm guns were also placed on icebreakers as weapons. And now they added a helicopter
        1. 0
          15 November 2019 06: 24
          An example of fast armament of an icebreaker: "Anastas Mikoyan" during the Great Patriotic War.
          "It was equipped with seven 130-mm, four 76-mm and six 45-mm guns, as well as four 12,7-mm DShK anti-aircraft machine guns."
          Then, in order to go from the Black Sea to the Far East, he was disarmed so that the Turks would pass through the straits ...
    3. 0
      14 November 2019 17: 27
      Canada has already ordered five; two are ready
  2. -1
    14 November 2019 14: 33
    In the ice, enemy submarines give him the main danger.
    1. -1
      14 November 2019 14: 43
      What is not visually visible is always and for everyone an increased danger! hi
    2. 0
      14 November 2019 17: 13
      Enemy submarines are everywhere a danger ... smile
      1. -2
        14 November 2019 19: 10
        Only boats can attack with torpedoes from under the ice, and the icebreaker does nothing.
        1. -2
          14 November 2019 19: 14
          And if our ship finds wormwood will be able to hit first?
        2. -2
          14 November 2019 22: 21
          Torpedo tubes can be below the waterline! ! What does the ice have to do with it?
          1. -1
            14 November 2019 22: 51
            Under the rumble of breaking ice to look for a boat?
    3. 0
      19 November 2019 13: 10
      Pavel57, I think that combat icebreakers would do well to have air defense.
  3. +2
    14 November 2019 14: 33
    Or am I confusing something, but, it seems, the Caliber was placed on it?
    The ship is armed with automatic AK-176MA artillery. In addition, one multi-purpose helicopter will be based on the ship.

    So on all of our nuclear icebreakers were AC.
    Only they were in the warehouses.
    There are photos from the tests where the artillery is installed.
    The guidance station was not dismantled at all, but it was always standing normally.
    1. -3
      14 November 2019 14: 41
      It provides caliber rockets.
      1. 0
        14 November 2019 16: 50
        It is also possible to supply "uraniums", since the deck installations do not require much space and time.
        1. 0
          14 November 2019 16: 57
          You can take into account that both Uranus and Caliber are in container design.
    2. 0
      14 November 2019 14: 45
      Quote: Victor_B
      Or am I confusing something, but, it seems, the Caliber was placed on it?

      At least they painted - 2 container PUs in the stern.
      1. +2
        14 November 2019 17: 01
        Actually, they also write and draw something on the fence, but before the actual placement of RU ...
        1. +1
          14 November 2019 19: 12
          Quote: vladcub
          Actually, they also write and draw something on the fence, but before the actual placement of RU ...

          Yes, I am aware of the state of affairs with us with container launchers and, in general, with modular weapons systems (even in the discussion of pr. 22160, there was a detailed analysis of them) - that's why I write that they are "drawing". smile
      2. 0
        14 November 2019 17: 51
        Did someone find information about the start of the production of calibers in the container version of the PU? And they, in addition to this ship, are intended for the corvette of project 20386 and patrol ships of project 22160. Until these installations are launched, the above ships are just barges with a cannon, suitable for fighting only against motor boats
  4. 0
    14 November 2019 14: 33
    I understand that the weapons will be mainly anti-aircraft? Lead in the ice you can’t deceive much?
    1. -1
      14 November 2019 17: 44
      But figs to you, with one three-inch you don’t really get off
  5. +2
    14 November 2019 14: 34
    I have long said that we need dual-use icebreakers, to break the ice in the interests of the fleet and, if something happens, to kick the adversary, and not just the cannon, the truth raises doubts about the safety of the rockets, even the same Caliber when breaking ice.
  6. -1
    14 November 2019 14: 37
    In any case, anti-ship and anti-submarine weapons are needed. And the problem is the search for enemy submarines. But how to look for them under the ice and how to neutralize them, this is of course a problem ...
  7. -2
    14 November 2019 14: 47
    Interestingly, these icebreakers will be able to withstand the US nuclear submarines in the Arctic? .. Are there specialists on this site on the issue? ..
    1. +1
      14 November 2019 16: 36
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      Interestingly, these icebreakers will be able to withstand the US nuclear submarines in the Arctic?

      how? ... solid ice carpet ..... however, and our Yankees ..... there are only nuclear submarines against nuclear submarines ....
  8. +1
    14 November 2019 14: 48
    The Russian fleet intends to use armed icebreakers and icebreaking ships in the Arctic.

    In general, everything is adult!
    A surface enemy, a serious one, the potential enemy is somehow not ah, but they have a submarine fleet and not weak!
    Need submarines hunters or station wagons, at least. Everything is logical and logical, you have to guard your borders EVERYWHERE!
    1. 0
      14 November 2019 22: 55
      To each icebreaker attach a submarine.
      1. 0
        15 November 2019 08: 10
        Quote: Pavel57
        To each icebreaker attach a submarine.

        The options are different. Boats patrol in designated areas ...
  9. +3
    14 November 2019 15: 09
    Frankly, the following paragraph from the article provoked some relaxation
    The number of weapons on board such icebreakers will depend on the thickness of the ice in the areas where they will be used. The ratio of the number of weapons to the ability to pass ice jams of each specific type of icebreaker will depend on the specific areas of its use. Those. where the ice is thinner - there the icebreakers will receive more weapons; where it is supposed to work in "heavy" ice - there, accordingly, there will be fewer weapons.

    Did the author of the note understand what he wrote? What nonsense? The displacement of this vessel is about 8500 tons. How will his ability to break ice affect the total load of half a ton?
    1. -1
      14 November 2019 16: 44
      Journalism, such journalism. Just to write.
  10. gmb
    -1
    14 November 2019 15: 11
    Pirates in the north? A cannon from them, fight off bears? Against a warship, any icebreaker is weak.
    1. +1
      14 November 2019 16: 29
      But the "Greenpeace" (and others like them) will be careful.
      And you don’t need to demand frigate capabilities from the icebreaker. The functions of the icebreaker and the tugboat are quite enough.
  11. -3
    14 November 2019 15: 56
    6 months ago, in the evening news, they said that they had put a 200 kW laser on a new Russian icebreaker. ..To break the ice?
  12. -5
    14 November 2019 16: 30
    Absolutely unnecessary ship! With whom should he fight in the ice ??? The opponents do not have such icebreakers! And no one will maneuver the squadrons there! But under the ice will be the heat! And this pepelats from under water is just a walking target! Do you want to cover the north - the submarine system, and not waste money!
    1. +2
      14 November 2019 16: 39
      Quote: Tahtvjd2868
      Absolutely unnecessary ship! With whom should he fight in the ice ??

      He is primarily an icebreaker .... and the main function of ice pricking !!! - escort ships to the bases and back .... and weapons to defeat sabotage enemy groups on numerous islands along the entire coast of the Arctic Ocean
    2. -4
      14 November 2019 17: 41
      But, as always, "not having an analogue in the world !!"
  13. 0
    14 November 2019 16: 46
    That's why he needs Caliber? He needs an air defense system. Medium and short range. In order to fight off yourself and shield the escorted (rescued) ships from airplanes and missiles. All the same, PLO cannot be shoved into it anyway, and it is problematic to use it in ice.
    1. -1
      14 November 2019 22: 53
      SAM from aircraft carrier depart or from the base?
  14. +1
    14 November 2019 16: 55
    Quote: gmb
    Pirates in the north? A cannon from them, fight off bears? Against a warship, any icebreaker is weak.

    You think so?
    Here the Canadians launched the second in a series patrol ship of the Arctic zone such as Harry DeWolf. The ship was named HMCS Margaret Brooke,
    The ship is armed with a 25-mm automatic cannon and two large-caliber Browning M2s. Is the 76-mm weak against such weapons?
  15. -1
    14 November 2019 23: 26
    Quote: Pavel57
    Under the rumble of breaking ice to look for a boat?

    The sonar range is completely different, and low-frequency noise has little effect. Is the same boat in the process of sensing the horizon, jamming its own engines?