The military of Estonia and Finland decided to learn from Ukrainian colleagues

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The military of Estonia and Finland decided to learn from Ukrainian colleagues

Estonian and Finnish military personnel underwent a one-week training course on mine clearance and destruction of explosives in Western Ukraine, during which an exchange of professional knowledge and skills with the Ukrainian military took place. It is reported by the Ministry of Defense of Estonia.

The five-day training allowed European cadets to improve their skills in overcoming mine barriers under the guidance of their Ukrainian colleagues, learn more about the possibilities of destroying improvised explosive devices and learn how to work with a specially trained dog to mine various objects. This was reported in the press service of the Estonian military department.



Particular attention was paid to the experience of working with explosives of "Russian origin", which, as they say in Ukraine, the Armed Forces of Ukraine encountered during the fighting in the Donbass.

At the end of the course, Estonian and Finnish military personnel thanked their Ukrainian colleagues for the opportunity to improve their professional knowledge.

In Tallinn and Helsinki they show dissatisfaction with Russian politics and periodically conduct army training with the allies. In particular, the Finns took part in the Northern Wind 2019 military exercises jointly with the Swedes and Norwegians this winter, which resulted in the release of an inspiring video entitled Together Stronger.

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  1. -4
    14 November 2019 15: 19
    To learn, it is never too late.
    1. +3
      14 November 2019 15: 24
      The military of Estonia and Finland decided to learn from Ukrainian colleagues

      To learn, it is never too late.

      Yes, let them learn to get into boilers ..
    2. +10
      14 November 2019 15: 26
      We decided to learn from Ukrainian war criminals how to bomb unarmed old people, women and children in peaceful homes ...
      1. -13
        14 November 2019 15: 28
        Gentlemen, do you have complexes associated with the word Ukroin? We are talking about sappers, one of the noblest specialties! Who knows where they will then have to cleanse the earth from the deadly stuffing ?! !!
        1. +12
          14 November 2019 15: 32
          I have not yet seen that they cleared something, I see every day through the media that they are firing and mining civilians, because women and children cannot give them a blow in the nose ...
          1. -16
            14 November 2019 16: 09
            I see every day through the media,
            And then what are you doing here? You then in the television studio Solovyov or Skabeeva. Here people are unashored, soberly analyzing the situation, events and actions.
            1. +7
              14 November 2019 16: 13
              Yes, yes, yes, excuse me, dear citizen of Ukraine, I understand you and now I’ll do everything as you ordered, our unshocked ... am
              1. -7
                14 November 2019 16: 15
                You don't need to write nonsense. I’ve been here for three years and luminaries know that I myself am from Yaroslavl, although I live in the suburbs. But with Ukraine is closely connected by family ties, my father is there. So you can apologize and start writing something smart.
                1. +8
                  14 November 2019 16: 22
                  Quote: Leader of the Redskins
                  But closely connected with Ukraine

                  Also write that there are no fascists there, no one has demolished the monuments, the inhabitants of Donbass are firing at themselves and in general everything is in full beam. And this is a mosfilm with a nightingale and a scabee horror.
                  1. -13
                    14 November 2019 16: 38
                    There are no fascists. There are nationalists. Different concepts, if that. And in the Donbass war. There really is nothing to blame that someone is in tar, and someone is white and fluffy. By the way, if anything, I’ll enlighten you too, a priori I am against this war and I think that it could not be and should not be.
                    1. +9
                      14 November 2019 16: 42
                      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
                      There are no fascists. There are nationalists.

                      For me, this is one and the same thing. Unlike your close ties with ukroina, I personally know people who protect the peaceful people of Donbass from these scum.
                    2. +1
                      14 November 2019 17: 54
                      The fascists and nationalists have the same goals and objectives. I realized that for you fascism will be identified with Italian scumbags led by the Duce.
                      1. -3
                        14 November 2019 19: 01
                        I once wrote a work on fascism, Nazism and nationalism, so I know the terminology and history of origin. Probably, therefore, it hurts my ears when something is said by the youths with pathos and out of place. There is a separate discussion about ideas and goals, but even in our salon the opponent is not right. If nationalists are representatives of one nation, fighting for it, in a nutshell, then the Nazis, this is an association from Italy. Fascisto .... In Russian there is a similar word fashina - a bunch of brushwood. There nationality is not paramount. Therefore, there were fascists Hungarian, Italian and DR.
                      2. +1
                        14 November 2019 23: 11
                        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
                        I once wrote a work on fascism, Nazism and nationalism, so I know the terminology and history of origin. Probably, therefore, it hurts my ears when something is said by the youths with pathos and out of place. There is a separate discussion about ideas and goals, but even in our salon the opponent is not right. If nationalists are representatives of one nation, fighting for it, in a nutshell, then the Nazis, this is an association from Italy. Fascisto .... In Russian there is a similar word fashina - a bunch of brushwood. There nationality is not paramount. Therefore, there were fascists Hungarian, Italian and DR.

                        Oh well! In (c) Ukraine there is no fascism, but nationalism is flourishing. WaffenSS are also nationalists! But the Nazis before them ... and under DR I read: Latvian, Lithuanian, Estonian, UKRAINIAN!
                      3. -1
                        14 November 2019 23: 29
                        Wafen see this is the Nazis. Separate subgroup. Which, incidentally, was considered an insult if they were called fascists.
                      4. +1
                        14 November 2019 23: 44
                        What did I just write about? It is about the Nazis! Which committed atrocities in those territories of the USSR that I designated, but they were still able to "distinguish themselves" in the neighboring territories! And for us they are all the same! As Mikhail Evdokimov said: Why should I sort them?
                2. +2
                  14 November 2019 16: 55
                  Nonsense is you write to our studios! If you don’t like it, you can leave for the Bandera six of the United States and their henchmen Ukraine and apologize to your people who are suffering because of your coup clearing of Ukraine and the sanctions imposed on Russia because of the junta in power of Ukraine, even if you were ashamed to be a citizen Russia is to write this ...
                  1. +1
                    15 November 2019 13: 06
                    Quote: Alexander Petrov1
                    If you do not like it, you can leave for the Bandera six of the United States and their henchmen Ukraine and apologize

                    hmm, how difficult it is in Russia to have an opinion different from the "party line"!
                    Although the "Party Line" is much more sophisticated than offered to ordinary citizens.
                    Simple offers simply "fascists and hatred" But the elites are offered partnership and business.
                    Both Peter and Lavrov recognized Petro! And he is the best choice of Ukraine and partner! Investor!
                    And no junta except for the show has long been gone. The second government officially recognizes the Russian Federation. And in low-standard shows about Ukraine, everything is "the junta is raging" and the Bandera ...
                    Quote: Alexander Petrov1
                    you must apologize to your people, who are suffering because of your coup of Ukraine and the sanctions imposed on Russia because of the junta in power in Ukraine

                    firstly sanctions to benefit. It is voiced by the first persons of the state.
                    Secondly, personal sanctions, general only refinancing (lending)
                    Penalties are penny! Yes, and how they have a positive effect!
                    It’s great when some recognize and conduct business and negotiations, and everyone who is lower offers hatred and war ...
                    although it’s understandable for what .. a banal distraction from Russian affairs.
                    1. -1
                      15 November 2019 13: 15
                      Just thanks to Kudrin for the 665 billion dollars a bottle, if it weren’t for the bottle, we would be sitting like the USSR or Yeltsin’s Russia with naked booty on the panel asking for alms from the IMF, as they ask for half the world including Ukraine ...
            2. 0
              15 November 2019 12: 58
              Quote: Leader of the Redskins
              Here people are not fouled up, soberly analyzing the situation, events and actions

              you are an optimist
              one against the media machine ..
              the result is predictable
              Well, he analyzes the media - they never lie laughing (especially if you analyze the media of only one country, and not all available in different languages ​​and involvement in events)
              it is logical that you will automatically receive citizenship of Ukraine, permanent residence in Israel, a grant in the State Department, a job in the CIA, the best option is "liberal" in the Russian Federation.
              The opinion voiced in the Russian media is the only correct one. There can be no other "right"
              All other opinions about the situation come from the evil one. Well, or from Ukraine. tongue
        2. +3
          14 November 2019 16: 05
          "Features of Finnish and Estland demining": they are not seen anywhere. Note that the exercises and training are directed against a specific enemy. At the same time, such details as "non-NATO membership" or "neutrality" do not matter. It's amazing how various other Swedes did not find themselves in this campaign.
        3. +3
          14 November 2019 16: 28
          It’s sappers. Who knows where they have to put mines. More precisely, we know ..
        4. +5
          14 November 2019 16: 57
          Who knows where they will then have to cleanse the earth from the deadly stuffing ?! !!


          The earth will have to be cleaned from themselves.
          And I hope this time it will be done more fundamentally.
        5. +4
          14 November 2019 19: 01
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          We are talking about sappers, one of the noblest specialties!

          Not so noble, considering that mines are also laid by sappers. And they are laid by definition more than then removed.
          1. 0
            15 November 2019 14: 06
            And they lay in the gardens of people, on the paths along which people walk.
      2. +3
        14 November 2019 16: 28
        What Ukrainians are glad that people from all over Europe come to mine mines on their territory. In real conditions or combat.
        At this pace, they will begin to test new weapons on the territory of the great ukrov,
        newspaper headlines - Today, Germany joined France and England and tested its latest warheads at Ukrainian training sites carrying a large number of dangerous and harmful substances.
        As a sign of solidarity against Russian aggression. laughing
      3. 0
        14 November 2019 22: 44
        This cannot be taken away from NATO.
    3. +8
      14 November 2019 15: 27
      Well, these will teach. From Donbass only news comes as ukrovyna are being blown up on their own mine productions.
    4. +2
      14 November 2019 15: 42
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      To learn, it is never too late.

      Watching what to learn. Of course, the Sumerians have a lot to learn from the military, they have a lot of experience on how to make fat and egg on cellars.
    5. +2
      14 November 2019 21: 20
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      To learn, it is never too late.

      Yeah. Especially among those who, during the rotation, "forgets" to share maps of minefields and then, joyfully condemning them for "greed," counts how many "brothers-in-arms" were blown up by "invisible" mines, like but they would pay, they could still play football ... Estonians and Finns have chosen lousy teachers.
  2. +2
    14 November 2019 15: 21
    If I counted correctly, then 1 Finn and 3 Estonians passed the training! wassat
    1. -5
      14 November 2019 15: 28
      Finn ran the entire distance, but the Estonians had to organize the relay race, as in the advertisement for "Duracell". wink What else could they learn from ukrovermaht?
    2. +1
      14 November 2019 15: 53
      Quote: Amateur
      1 Finn and 3 Estonian!

      Finn is one, there are five.
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    4. +3
      14 November 2019 16: 08
      Finns and Estonians can be understood better in Ukraine than in Afghanistan, Iraq, Mali, Congo ...
  3. +2
    14 November 2019 15: 22
    What teachers, what students. A blind cross-eyed teaches to aim. Only Ukrainians can learn from the Baltic undertakers.
  4. +1
    14 November 2019 15: 25
    Have you thought for a long time? When was the last time the wild Ukraine was blown up by its own mines? Well, learn from the experience ...
  5. +4
    14 November 2019 15: 28
    Explanation of the photo in the article.
    Instruction of the Ukrainian colleague:
    "There is a warehouse. We are working on the planned withdrawal. I set the task to load 20 trucks of ammunition in the evening. Then we set fire to the rest and the ends into the water. Well, that is, we do not leave anything to the aggressor. Understood? Let's start. March !!!"
  6. +3
    14 November 2019 15: 29
    Particular attention was paid to the experience of working with explosives of "Russian origin", which, as they say in Ukraine, the Armed Forces of Ukraine encountered during the fighting in the Donbass.
    Well here is generally very interesting. It turns out all the weapons in Ukraine are imported, and then they encountered Russian, that is, Soviet, especially with improvised explosive devices.
    1. +3
      14 November 2019 15: 33
      Explosives of "Russian origin" Ukrainize? Well, there is enough paint.
  7. +1
    14 November 2019 15: 33
    By the way, they called it the teachings? NORTH WIND 2019? They’re dumber than I thought - they’ll call themselves the real North Wind wassat
    1. Cat
      +1
      14 November 2019 19: 54
      will incur a real North Wind

      With Vladimir Central wassat
  8. +3
    14 November 2019 15: 40
    What can you learn from horses? To kill the inhabitants of their own country? Or fall into one boiler after another?
  9. +4
    14 November 2019 15: 52
    The five-day training allowed European cadets to improve their skills in overcoming mine barriers under the guidance of their Ukrainian colleagues
    For five days and under the guidance of Ukrainian colleagues, it is probably worth a lot. And if you consider that in the Donbas, Ukrainian "colleagues" often suffer losses from their own mines, then they will surely teach both Estonians and Finns.
  10. 0
    14 November 2019 16: 18
    The Swede is learning to mine with hands in his pockets.
    1. +4
      14 November 2019 22: 17
      7,62x54: The Swede is learning to mine with hands in his pockets.

      This is not a Swede, dear colleague. Such a Velcro chevron is worn by Finnish military personnel.

      or you. like in a movie laughing
      1. 0
        14 November 2019 23: 16
        It makes no difference whether he is a Swede or a Finnish. By their nature, they are all Chukhons.
        1. +1
          15 November 2019 13: 09
          Quote: 7,62x54
          It makes no difference whether he is a Swede or a Finnish. By their nature, they are all Chukhons.

          Well ... Swedes and Chukhons!
          Quite the same thing ...
          what kind of chauvinism? All around chocks, we are alone white and fluffy ..
    2. 0
      15 November 2019 00: 39
      There is no normal Soviet foreman on him, so that wean a pocket billiard to drive! laughing
  11. +4
    14 November 2019 16: 19
    Learned to restrain and defeat a non-existent enemy.
  12. +3
    14 November 2019 16: 25
    The military of Estonia and Finland decided to learn from Ukrainian colleagues


    Get into the boilers?))
  13. +2
    14 November 2019 16: 31
    What to learn, how to get into boilers and loot? Found the warriors of light, pah. You can adopt the Georgian experience, they will tell.
  14. +2
    14 November 2019 17: 29
    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    To learn, it is never too late.

    We also need to buy the Hammer mortar from them, and it will be more fun to learn. hi fool
  15. -2
    14 November 2019 18: 15
    Another ridicule of small neighbors. And then we are awesome.
    The Finns and Ests arrived to have a drink on the vodka, so now they will find a NATO conspiracy.
  16. +2
    14 November 2019 18: 28
    The course you need. Especially good teachers, every day on their mines undermined ...
  17. +3
    14 November 2019 19: 21
    Estonian and Finnish military learn from Ukrainian colleagues wassat - drink vodka and do not bite ... drinks
    1. 0
      15 November 2019 00: 20
      Yeah! And then in an embrace for a walk through the minefields .... mine wassat
  18. Cat
    +1
    14 November 2019 19: 29
    and learn how to work with a specially trained dog

    - Shaarikas!
    -Gaavkas, gaavkas!
    1. Cat
      +1
      14 November 2019 19: 44
      Limitotrophic fighting dogs:
  19. +3
    14 November 2019 20: 24
    The only thing you can learn from Ukrainian colleagues is to rob and terrorize civilians in an internal civil conflict.
    They are not capable of greater APU.
  20. 0
    15 November 2019 00: 19
    Particular attention was paid to the experience of working with explosives of "Russian origin", which, as they say in Ukraine, the Armed Forces of Ukraine encountered during the fighting in the Donbass.
    Aha! And what year of release were these "explosives" ....? Not the 70s - 80s years old ?! wink bully
  21. 0
    15 November 2019 04: 16
    - "Special attention was paid to the experience of working with explosives of" Russian origin "- don't take our" origin "!!! Its only development is" Azovets "!!!
  22. 0
    15 November 2019 12: 19
    Now they will become the second and third army in strength in Europe. With which we congratulate them.
  23. +2
    15 November 2019 13: 21
    In general, everything is extremely simple.
    Mines are the danger of such conflicts for civilians, number one!
    Why Finland And here is why
    Finnish Foreign Minister Pekka Gaavisto confirmed an additional contribution of 600 thousand euros for mine clearance in the Donbass. This was reported by the press service of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Finland

    As noted, the situation in the Donbass impedes the work of agriculture and construction.
    "Mines are still a problem in many areas and hinder agriculture and construction," the report said.
    In addition, during the visit, Foreign Minister Gaavisto expressed support for Ukraine in finding a solution to the conflict in eastern Ukraine through the Minsk Agreements.
    Earlier it was reported that the delegation of Finland visited the Village of Lugansk. Purification of the territory of Donetsk and Lugansk regions from explosive objects can last for decades.
    According to the report of the International Anti-Personnel Mine Ban Movement, Ukraine is among the countries with a high mortality rate due to the anti-personnel mine clearance.
    Due to hostilities, eastern Ukraine is turning into the most mined region in the world.
    So, according to the UNHCR for human rights, from April 14, 2014 to August 15, 2017, at least 2558 civilians (among them 242 children) died, the vast majority of them (about 1700 people) - from mines and unexploded ordnance.
    In 2017, 240 civilians died or were injured in mines. On February 6, 2018, three children (3, 9, and 14 years old) were seriously injured as a result of an unknown explosive object bursting in their hands, which they found on the street in Krasnogorovka. Today, there are about two million Ukrainians in the mine risk zone.
    Land mines also significantly reduced the ability of people to move freely through five checkpoints, at which millions of intersections are recorded monthly.
    In accordance with international obligations, Ukraine destroyed more than 2 million banned anti-personnel mines (since 1997, more than 40 million such mines have been destroyed in the world)
    about the footnote "Russian-made mines" - which caused some fun.
    In the liberated territories of Donetsk and Lugansk regions, Ukrainian sappers find anti-personnel landmines of push action PMN-2. They also neutralized a fragmentation mine of directional action MON-50, under which there was an ML-8 mine trap, which is produced only in Russia. Mines made after 1991 and not used by Ukraine are often identified.
    The Ottawa Convention on Mines, Ukraine signed, but the Russian Federation is not.
    The conflict lasts 5 years.
    Many experts say that, based on international experience, one year of war is equivalent to 10 years of work to clear the "contaminated" areas. Croatia-4 years of war, 20 years have already been cleared of mines.
    Bosnia is similar.
    In Ukraine, work is underway with children and adolescents about suspicious items, mines and other dangers. Not the first year, in the form of lectures, games, and even with the involvement of actors (Orlando Bloom-2015 as a goodwill ambassador participated)
    So far, there has been success, but the war continues and mining by both sides of the conflict continues.
    based on zn.ua materials

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