The third series of "Warsaw" will be built for the Baltic Fleet

third fleet, after the Black Sea and the Pacific, which can get a series of non-nuclear submarines, the Baltic can become. This was reported by TASS with reference to two sources in the shipbuilding industry.

According to the agency, the Navy Commander is currently discussing the construction of a series of diesel-electric submarines of the 636.3 Varshavyanka project for the Baltic Fleet. Thus, the Baltic Fleet may become the third after the Black Sea and Pacific Fleets, which received non-nuclear submarines with Caliber cruise missiles or their analogues.

The Navy High Command is discussing the construction of a series of diesel-electric submarines of the 636.3 project for the Baltic Fleet. The appearance on the BF submarines - carriers "Caliber" will significantly enhance the shock potential of the Russian Federation in the Baltic

- the agency leads the words of one of the sources.

At the same time, according to the second source, the Varshavyanka series for the Baltic Fleet may not consist of six, but a smaller number of submarines. This issue is also under discussion.

Recall that the Admiralty Shipyards Shipyard previously built a series of six submarines of the 636.3 Varshavyanka project for the Black Sea Fleet, and is currently building a series of diesel-electric submarines for the Pacific Fleet.

To date, the parent Varshavyanka for the Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky Pacific Fleet has passed state tests and is preparing to join the fleet. The second in a series of Volkhov submarine is being completed and will be launched in December this year. On November 1, the third and fourth submarines for the Pacific Fleet - Ufa and Magadan - were laid, plans for laying the fifth and sixth submarines have not yet been announced. The entire series of six submarines should be built by the 2022 year.

Submarines of the 636.3 Varshavyanka project belong to the third generation. The length of the submarines is 73 meters, the width is 10 meters, the maximum immersion depth is 300 meters, the underwater speed is 20 nodes, and the autonomy is 45 days. Crew - 52 person. The submarines are armed with six 533 mm caliber torpedo tubes, mines and Caliber rocket launchers.

Comments

[bouncyhunter]

in the Main Command of the Navy, the issue of building a series of diesel-electric submarines of project 636.3 "Varshavyanka" for the Baltic Fleet is currently being discussed.

The news is definitely good. The main thing is not to get stuck at the discussion stage, but to start construction.

[cniza]

Here - here, it’s better to do it first and then shout about it ...

[bk316]

it’s better to do it first and then shout about it ...

And what was at least once that the Admiralty Warsaw did not do on time?

[cniza]

I’m not talking about this, but about an additional series for BF, or rather the third series, sometimes journalists run ahead of the engine.

[bk316]

The news is definitely good.

Greetings to Paul.
Not sure what is good.
The Admiralty’s plan was to finish the series at the Pacific Fleet and SERIOUSLY switch to Lada, and now it will probably be postponed.
I recommend that anyone interested in the Russian Nuclear Submarine Fleet come here
http://admship.ru/

And on the history of the Admiralty specifically here
http://admship.ru/production/archive/spravochnik-proektov-podvodnykh-lodok-postroennykh-na-admiralteyskikh-verfyakh/

with CTX pictures, well done

[bouncyhunter]

Vladimir

Quote: bk316

SERIES to go to Lada, and now it will probably be postponed

Quite possible . I really want to hope that the Lada will be built in parallel with the Varshavyanka for the Baltic Fleet ...
Z.Y. Thanks for the links!

[Alexander Petrov1]

So, of course, 3 submarines would have been enough, although there would have been enough for 6 work there, especially when almost always 1 submarine is under repair or modernization, and the NATO barmalei have a whole armada of ships and submarines with missiles ...

[Omskgasmyas]

Not stuck. The construction of these boats has been completed. The series will be smaller than for the Black Sea Fleet. I think that 4 is enough. Anaerobic will be built further.

[Thunderbolt]

Poor Swedes. How many exciting surprises and surprises they have ahead!

[Sergey39]

For the Baltic, you need a smaller submarine, some piranhas. Swedes to keep in good shape.

[Vladimir61]

Quote: Sergey39

Any piranhas.

Not just any, but something like the P750 project

displacement of 950 tons, cruising range of about 2000 nautical miles, capable of carrying 12 mines, armed with four cruise missiles of the Onyx, Caliber or Zircon class, located in universal vertical launchers, and four torpedoes of 533 mm caliber

[Sergey39]

Still, smaller ones are better for the Baltic, P550 for example.

[knn54]

NATO countries (Germany, Denmark, Norway, Poland): 4 destroyers; 26 frigates, 9 corvettes. 8 minesweepers, 16 missile boats, 10 patrol boats and 16 submarines.
Baltic Fleet: 1 destroyer, 6 small patrol and anti-submarine ships, 18 missile boats, 8 landing ships, 9 minesweepers, and TOTAL 3 submarines.
And do not forget that the ships of other NATO countries are often present.

[internal enemy]

There are no boats in principle, but those that stand at the pier do not need to be considered, and with landing ships, they overdid it 2 times

[Omskgasmyas]

Have you forgotten naval aviation? The fleet includes not only ships.

[Lord of the Sith]

It's time, oh, it's time to arm the fleets with modern ships.
Probable opponents are not asleep.

[Escobar]

Exactly what is modern. It’s time to finish the VNEU for the Warsaw’s women, and even a little more, and they will be completely competitive.

[soul]

The third fleet, which can receive a series of non-nuclear submarines, can become the Baltic.

Maybe yes, maybe no? In short - they threw a seed to people to discuss.
What about the Lada?

[rocket757]

When plans change ... there are probably objective reasons.

[Paul Siebert]

As a former sailor of the Twice Red Banner Baltic Fleet, I welcome this decision! Even during the years of World War II, Baltic submariners covered themselves with unfading glory!
"Wilhelm Gustlov" was sunk by Marinesko in the Baltic waters!

[barsuk]

Why is the series bad for you?

[Sandor Clegane]

Rudolph , I agree with you, if ... these "would" be able to "Lada-Kaliny" so build, but they are not and this series will be driven until the issue with the new non-nuclear submarine is resolved ... .yes, you know it yourself

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: Sandor Clegane

yes you yourself know it

Yes, everyone knows everything, but only things are still there ((

[alexmach]

How much more can you drive this series?

Well, as I understand it, now there is a choice
1. Build Warsaw
2. Do not build anything
Which would you prefer?

[Dmitry Vinner]

Give this money to me. At least someone will benefit.

[alexmach]

I guess a time machine is needed for this

[Samaritan]

I would close the work on the 677th project and force the work on the new with the involvement of Malachite.

And disperse people from the shipyards? There are empty workshops and slipways, moreover, the Admiralty shipyards are undergoing major modernization. ZAS completed, building "D" under repair ... Lada occupies one building, they are doing it in a quiet way ... Definitely need to produce, and at the same time deal with "Ladas" "Kalina" and so on. This is the work of different people and different "organizations" ... IMHO

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

This is bad. It means that something is still wrong with Lada, and I was so happy when I found out that the Lada series would continue ... I thought the problems were over, but no, it seems.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Why is he flawed? Diesel-electric submarines of the 4th generation, new GAK, BIUS and so on ... And the viburnum is some kind of incomprehensible Wishlist from the series "Lada didn't work out - let's design a new one from scratch"

[Artemiy_2]

It is stated that at least 5 frets will be built

[Pavel57]

Better than none.

[K-50]

As far as I understand, there is no need to remember about "Cupids".

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Kormilitsin- made a headache for foreign fleets.

[storm]

For the shallow Baltic, the almost ideal P-750B project has already been developed,
with a displacement of about 1450 tons, it belongs to the class of small submarines of coastal action.
Its length is about 66 meters, width - about 7 meters, draft - about 5,2 meters.
The maximum immersion depth is 300 meters. The total underwater speed is 18 knots, economic - 4 knots. Autonomy - up to 30 days, total cruising range - up to 4300 miles.
Continuous underwater range including VNEU is up to 1200 miles.

The power plant includes a closed-cycle gas turbine engine (two of 400 kW each) and an electric motor with a capacity of 2500 kW.

Armament - 533 mm torpedoes, missiles and mines.

[Sandor Clegane]

Quote: assault

Almost shallow Baltic has already been developed

almost, but he is not considered

Quote: assault

Continuous underwater range including VNEU is up to 1200 miles.

ready-made VNEU ?? ... damn it, but in the Navy they know ??
and so in theory a good project

[Dmitry Vinner]

Question to the experts. Is this an issue already resolved? https://www.rosbalt.ru/russia/2019/09/06/1800876.html
Maybe someone knows?

[impostor]

You are too curious. In our time, this is not a plus. The question "Why did she drown" is not welcome? For he reveals the dark principles of the foundations of the foundations ...

[Dmitry Vinner]

Reaction to the question "Why did she drown"? depends on whose it is. Everything else doesn't matter

[bars1]

IMHO, domestic submarines with DOMESTIC VNEU (not Chinese!) In the best (!!!) case will enter the stand at the very end of the 20s. So be patient. Although if ours step over their pride, then by the mid-20s, the first submarines with Chinese VNEU might enter service ...

[Shraik]

Quote: bk316

http://admship.ru/

The site is very nicely decorated.

[Chess knight]

... this is very good 4 submarines for the Baltic Fleet ... But if the question is either Varshavyanka or Piranhas, it would be better to choose Piranhas in them more surprise, they have more unpredictability, and one of the main ones may be more sabotage surprises, then which is very it will be necessary if there are threats to Kaliningrad, that from the side of Kaliningrad, that from the side of St. Petersburg (reconnaissance, landing, mining)
ps
But it says here, it is possible both this and that, and with butter and bread.

[Chess knight]

Quote: Chess Knight

... this is very good 4 submarines for the Baltic Fleet ... But if the question is either Varshavyanka or Piranhas, it would be better to choose Piranhas in them more surprise, they have more unpredictability, and one of the main ones may be more sabotage surprises, then which is very it will be necessary if there are threats to Kaliningrad, that from the side of Kaliningrad, that from the side of St. Petersburg (reconnaissance, landing, mining)
ps
But it says here, it is possible both this and that, and with butter and bread.

I will add to the fact that the INF Treaty has been canceled, respectively, the same Caliber can calmly rest on the ground in Pskov, Novgorod, Narva, etc., etc., but a sufficient and main blow will come from 4 small and inconspicuous PIRANIAS ... + which is important it's a diversionary group ... it can solve a lot! in advance!