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Declassified case of Estonian punitive crimes in the Pskov region

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Declassified case of Estonian punitive crimes in the Pskov region

Archival documents have been declassified in the Pskov region, which relate to part of the criminal case on the crimes of Estonian Nazi accomplices during the Great Patriotic War.


We are talking about war crimes committed in the prisoner of war camp in Moglino and throughout the Pskov region. The camp was created by the Nazis immediately after the occupation of these territories, which Hitlerite Germany was going to introduce into Estonia. The Nazis set up a camp on the territory of the Soviet border commandant's office.

Declassified by the FSB department in the Pskov region contains eyewitness accounts of crimes committed by Estonian punitive. In total, this is about a hundred pages with testimonies of people who witnessed the torture and numerous executions with their own eyes, including indicative ones. Also in the case, which includes 6 volumes, there is evidence of the Nazi criminals themselves.

One of the witnesses in the testimony reports that the crimes were committed not only against prisoners of war, but also against the local civilian population. So, in the autumn of 1942, 170 civilians, including children, old people, women, including residents from the gypsy and Jewish population of the city, were taken out of Pskov. All of them were shot. The executions with the direct participation of Estonian punishers were carried out repeatedly and subsequently. So, in the summer of 1943, 70 Jews were shot.

In total, we are talking about hundreds of executed people, and it has not yet been possible to establish exact data on the number of victims.

The case contains documents on the testimonies of Estonian punishers who stated at a court session in the USSR in the 60’s that they “do not remember the exact places of executions, since many years have passed”. According to the court decision, three punishers were sentenced to death in February 1968. At the same time, dozens of representatives of Nazi punitive groups managed to escape punishment.
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  1. aszzz888
    aszzz888 14 November 2019 06: 37
    +20
    At the same time, dozens of representatives of Nazi punitive groups managed to escape punishment.

    Very sorry. Perhaps now there would be fewer Nazi relatives in Estonia.
    1. Civil
      Civil 14 November 2019 06: 55
      -38
      The old war is haunted. Everyone who really fought has already left, but kitty, as in that joke, is squeezed out and squeezed out.
      And judging by what is happening in the world, all the conclusions from the old war are completely forgotten.
      1. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 14 November 2019 11: 18
        +2
        Those who did this have perished, but their work lives on, the West is built on it, and due to this there is a West, the embodiment of such abominations, and this should never be forgotten by our children.
      2. Waddimm
        Waddimm 14 November 2019 12: 52
        +1
        Whoever remembers the old is out of sight, and whoever forgets is BOTH!
        A wise Russian proverb that says that those who have forgotten the evil done before are absolutely blind!
      3. NF68
        NF68 14 November 2019 16: 03
        +1
        Quote: Civil
        The old war is haunted. Everyone who really fought has already left, but kitty, as in that joke, is squeezed out and squeezed out.
        And judging by what is happening in the world, all the conclusions from the old war are completely forgotten.


        Pussycat. You are afraid of God so express on such a topic. Or take the pot off your head.
      4. Alexander Petrov1
        Alexander Petrov1 14 November 2019 19: 42
        0
        I just don’t understand why 90 year old murderers and rapists go to the Nazis in parades and haven’t been shot under Stalin yet?
    2. Barmaleyka
      Barmaleyka 14 November 2019 07: 10
      +24
      Quote: aszzz888
      Very sorry. Perhaps now there would be fewer Nazi relatives in Estonia.

      it's a pity not even that, but the fact that for so many decades it was hushed up for fear of offending the "brothers" as a result we have what we have
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 14 November 2019 07: 14
        +3

        Quote: aszzz888
        Very sorry. Perhaps now there would be fewer Nazi relatives in Estonia.

        sorry not even that, but the fact that for so many decades it was hushed up for fear of offending the "brothers" as a result we have what we have
        I agree. There was such a time, and especially POLITICS.
      2. Cut Samshitov
        Cut Samshitov 14 November 2019 07: 58
        +16
        Quote: Barmaleyka
        Quote: aszzz888
        Very sorry. Perhaps now there would be fewer Nazi relatives in Estonia.

        it's a pity not even that, but the fact that for so many decades it was hushed up for fear of offending the "brothers" as a result we have what we have

        And then they are surprised: "Where did the surge of neo-Nazism come from?" All the time they were talking nonsense that fascism is Germany, all the other types fought against fascism. In the French "resistance" there were not even 40000, while it "resisted" without "fanaticism", but more than a million fought on Hitler's side. It's time to admit that fascism is a pan-European movement, and not to tell tales about the Czechoslovak partisans.
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                  1. Barmaleyka
                    Barmaleyka 14 November 2019 12: 29
                    0
                    Quote: Dym71
                    2013 - 2012
                    there wasn’t such, at least until 10 years
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      4. knn54
        knn54 14 November 2019 10: 59
        0
        The main thing is more of such materials for the anniversary of the GREAT Victory.
        People need to know who is hu ...
      5. Olgovich
        Olgovich 14 November 2019 11: 27
        +2
        Quote: Barmaleyka
        it's a pity not even that, but the fact that for so many decades it was hushed up for fear of offending the "brothers" as a result we have what we have

        And how many more are there in the archives of such previously hushed up crimes against our country?

        Hidden crimes of the Hungarians, Romanians, about which the people said that they were worse than the Germans ...

        Now, when they open, it’s not the same effect, the road is a spoon for dinner ....
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 14 November 2019 20: 06
          +1
          Quote: Olgovich
          Hidden crimes of the Hungarians, Romanians, about which the people said that they were worse than the Germans ...

          You will also remember how vaguely they talked about the Khatyn tragedy, blaming everything on vague "fascists".
      6. Den717
        Den717 14 November 2019 14: 13
        0
        Quote: Barmaleyka
        it's a pity not even that, but the fact that for so many decades it was hushed up for fear of offending the "brothers" as a result we have what we have

        Who wanted to know, he knew before. There are books about the Baltic collaborators, and they are widely available. If today the neck was removed from some business, then this does not mean at all that there are no other open materials on this topic. It would be a desire ....
    3. Vend
      Vend 14 November 2019 09: 46
      +1
      I don’t understand why this was generally classified.
      1. igordok
        igordok 14 November 2019 10: 11
        0
        Quote: Wend
        I don’t understand why this was generally classified.

        It has never been classified. In Soviet times, there was some silence. See my comments below.
        1. Vend
          Vend 14 November 2019 10: 15
          0
          Quote: igordok
          Quote: Wend
          I don’t understand why this was generally classified.

          It has never been classified. In Soviet times, there was some silence. See my comments below.

          Well, albeit not classified, but silence is also not entirely correct. When at the official level it is impossible, then this is no better than secrecy. I think that this should not be done. It is not necessary to rot, but it is necessary to clearly determine who fought for whom and what he did. Right now they are starting to hush up the Chechen war.
  2. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 14 November 2019 06: 37
    +11
    Every declassification must be shown to the whole world! With presentations to those who are pretending to be white and fluffy (while being inhibited) and who like to pierce us.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 14 November 2019 06: 57
      +6
      Quote: Dmitry Potapov
      need to show to the whole world!

      And what, before could not declassify? This is how much earlier it was possible to shut up the mouths of Nazi defilements and their henchmen!
      1. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 14 November 2019 07: 22
        +14
        Quote: Uncle Lee

        And what, before could not declassify? This is how much earlier it was possible to shut up the mouths of Nazi defilements and their henchmen!

        My father-in-law was born in the village of Yam, Pskov region. When he talked about the war, he always recalled the stories of his parents about Estonian punishers. For locals, this was never a secret.
        1. Uncle lee
          Uncle lee 14 November 2019 07: 25
          +6
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          For local

          Locals know a lot of things and remember ..... But only now it has received wide publicity.
          1. Slon379
            Slon379 14 November 2019 11: 39
            +1
            What is the publicity? They told us everything, no one else knows about it anywhere. I can directly imagine how some teenager in Ohio shuddered at the news! We need to figure out how to break through the information blockade.
            1. Uncle lee
              Uncle lee 14 November 2019 11: 43
              +1
              Quote: Slon379
              teenager in Ohio

              This lad doesn’t know that there was a war at all, and about the Baltic Nazis he didn’t sleep at all ....
              1. Slon379
                Slon379 14 November 2019 11: 44
                +1
                Duck must be conveyed to him.
                1. Uncle lee
                  Uncle lee 14 November 2019 11: 47
                  +1
                  He is absolutely not interested and does not need it ... From the word at all!
                  1. Slon379
                    Slon379 14 November 2019 12: 00
                    +1
                    I am also not interested in liberal chewing gum, but they feed me every day. It is necessary to present information from different angles. Maybe someone will be interested. Translate, duplicate and hammer! If a person changes his views from this, it will be a victory. True, together with his views, he may not vote for the right one, then we will be accused of interfering in the elections))), maybe they will even arrest him somewhere on vacation in Kazakhstan, extradite him and put him in life ((((.
        2. Tavrik
          Tavrik 14 November 2019 09: 44
          +3
          I confirm. My grandmother, who lived the entire occupation in Pskov, also said that Estonians were worse than Germans. Just before, during the USSR, this was not advertised.
          1. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. 14 November 2019 10: 01
            +2
            I have relatives from the Novgorod region. Latvians were atrocious there. Also in the part regarding fanaticism, the Germans surpassed.
            1. Pete mitchell
              Pete mitchell 14 November 2019 11: 21
              +1
              Quote: AU Ivanov.
              I have relatives from the Novgorod region. Latvians were atrocious there. Also in the part regarding fanaticism, the Germans surpassed.

              hi a very characteristic example, vskidku, it is not very single: https://burckina-faso.livejournal.com/124343.html
        3. igordok
          igordok 14 November 2019 11: 19
          +3
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          My father-in-law was born in the village of Yam, Pskov region.

          Likely Ymm Gdovsky district. Estonia was across the lake, and the partisans in these dense forests (almost the taiga) against whom there were many punitive acts.
          1. Aaron Zawi
            Aaron Zawi 14 November 2019 11: 56
            +3
            Quote: igordok
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            My father-in-law was born in the village of Yam, Pskov region.

            Likely Ymm Gdovsky district. Estonia was across the lake, and the partisans in these dense forests (almost the taiga) against whom there were many punitive acts.

            Probably. He is long gone. Do not ask.
      2. Dmitry Potapov
        Dmitry Potapov 14 November 2019 07: 26
        +1
        I apologize if you have an idea of ​​operational and undercover work, then you should not know everything and you can’t always tell and show when you want, any declassification may be followed by a demand for evidence and, therefore, the circle of persons involved, including the agent, is being disclosed, and this nor is it good, so agents are not stockpiled.
        1. Uncle lee
          Uncle lee 14 November 2019 07: 37
          +4
          evidence of the Nazi criminals themselves.
          They themselves admitted their crimes! And without agents ...
          1. Dmitry Potapov
            Dmitry Potapov 14 November 2019 08: 13
            +1
            Some had to be urgently asked, otherwise it would be good in the USSR without any moratoriums.
          2. Uncle lee
            Uncle lee 14 November 2019 08: 19
            +5
            Judging by the minuses in the comments, neo-Nazism is not exterminated, even here in VO!
            1. novel66
              novel66 14 November 2019 08: 34
              +7
              Volodya! hi why be surprised? come across regularly
              1. Uncle lee
                Uncle lee 14 November 2019 10: 25
                +2
                Roma hi Neo-Nazis, neo-fascists ... Yes, maydanutye added!
        2. Raymym bek
          Raymym bek 14 November 2019 09: 37
          +3
          The agents of those times - how many of them survived? Even if there are still alive, to whom will they harm?
          In general, I can’t understand the logic: more than 70 years have passed, but the archives are still kept secret. From whom? From your own people! Until now, the names of the heroes have not been announced, but they are real heroes, oh, as they are needed today. Well, or there is something to hide, so as not to discredit that power, party, line, etc.
        3. Pete mitchell
          Pete mitchell 14 November 2019 10: 58
          +2
          Quote: Dmitry Potapov
          I apologize if you have an idea about ...

          You are undoubtedly right, but search teams working in the Pskov region dig up artifacts belonging to Estonian and Latvian waffenss in kilograms. What is there to hide? Just that then these artifacts 'go away' for sale? Or the fact that the heirs of these subhuman do not hesitate to run into, claiming their rights to artifacts? also by the way not out of altruistic motives. This is a real situation that ended badly for presenting: due to inherent stupidity or Eyropey tolerance, they did not take into account the identity of search engines and who oversees this process ....
    2. Mikhail Drabkin
      Mikhail Drabkin 14 November 2019 10: 02
      +2
      You are writing Dmitry Potapov
      show to the whole world

      The world doesn't give a damn about it !!!.
      Remember Kurt Waldheim .... UN Secretary General ... hid participation in Nazi troops ..
      —- Or Christa Freeland ... Foreign Minister of Canada ... her grandmother promoted pro-Nazi Ukrainian leaders ... Galicia ..
      —- The world generally believes that it is not necessary to hang up the crimes of the National Socialists on fascism ... and highbrow philosophers argue impassively about the Jewish theorists of Italian fascism ...
      —- It is important that “Europeans of the highest standard” Estonians know that crimes against humanity are an indelible part of the burden of the history of the Estonian people. This is quite enough - and often remind!
      1. Den717
        Den717 14 November 2019 14: 31
        0
        Quote: Mikhail Drabkin
        The world doesn't give a damn about it !!!.

        If by "peace" we mean Europe + the United States, then their whole philosophy of Eurocentrism today is based on the division of people into "over ..." and "under ...". That is, the roots with Nazism, racism, social nationalism are the same. Conclusion: the European establishment currently professes Nazism (nationalism) in various forms and degrees of intolerance towards non-native nations (nationalities). And therefore they do not give a damn about IT at all. They are entirely in favor, and many are active. In Charlie, 12 people died, and this was the reason for solidarity actions around the world. The Americans in Iraq have killed hundreds of thousands, and nobody cares.
  3. Victor_B
    Victor_B 14 November 2019 06: 38
    +6
    Declassified case of Estonian punitive crimes in the Pskov region

    Well, really not a handshake!
    Is it possible to talk so badly about Estonian Nazi patriots?
    This is just an insult to the national feelings of the white and fluffy eeeeeestooooones.
    That's about "bloody Stalin" possible and necessary! (Well, in order not to get up twice, at the same time about the bloody PutEn).
    1. Mikhail Zarokov
      Mikhail Zarokov 14 November 2019 07: 48
      -4
      So far only you remembered about him.
  4. Obi-Wan Kenobi
    Obi-Wan Kenobi 14 November 2019 06: 42
    +3
    Archival documents have been declassified in the Pskov region, which relate to part of the criminal case on the crimes of Estonian Nazi accomplices during the Great Patriotic War.

    Right.
    It's time to declassify the criminal cases of fascist accomplices, SS, punishers and executioners. Especially those who live in the Baltic states, in Poland and Ukraine.
    And not just declassify, but tell about them all over "democratic" Europe. Let them listen.
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 14 November 2019 07: 20
      0

      Archival documents have been declassified in the Pskov region, which relate to part of the criminal case on the crimes of Estonian Nazi accomplices during the Great Patriotic War.

      Right.
      It's time to declassify the criminal cases of fascist accomplices, SS, punishers and executioners. Especially those who live in the Baltic states, in Poland and Ukraine.
      And not just declassify, but tell about them all over "democratic" Europe. Let them listen.

      Do you think they will "listen" in gayrope? How many documentary facts of film-photos have already been, as well as living witnesses (this is a little aside with regard to white helmets in Syria - but the reality is the same), exhibitions of journalists from Donbas about the atrocities of the Ukronazis ... etc. Was there any positive movement from the West? NO!
      1. novel66
        novel66 14 November 2019 08: 36
        +6
        maybe it’s not in the geyron, but if one of those who proudly steps on Nazi processions finds those who shot Jews - it is possible that Israel will be interested
    2. Victoria-V
      Victoria-V 14 November 2019 07: 24
      0
      Your phrase "Especially those who ..." is very wrong. So you can divide the reptiles into bad fascist accomplices and good fascist accomplices. Declassify everyone and ask: why is it still a secret. It would be nice to understand and find out the reason for such secrecy.
  5. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 14 November 2019 07: 09
    +3
    But they keep pouring into our ears that "the Orhives are secret because there was a horror of the Stalinist repressions, and there was no good about it."
  6. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 14 November 2019 07: 12
    +4
    Three punishers, by court order, were sentenced to capital punishment in February 1968. At the same time, dozens of representatives of Nazi punitive groups managed to escape punishment.

    Something immediately recalled the accusations against the Russians who were captured as a result of wounds ... The twists and turns of the fate of Jacob Stalin in connection with his being captured ...
    And here, for service in Nazi punitive groups - "they managed to avoid punishment" ... stop fool Perhaps thanks to these - who escaped punishment, Estonia retained "good-neighborly" relations with Russia?
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 14 November 2019 07: 23
      -1

      ROSS 42 (42 region) Today, 07: 12 NEW
      0
      According to the court decision, three punishers were sentenced to death in February 1968. At the same time, dozens of representatives of Nazi punitive groups managed to escape punishment.

      Something immediately recalled the accusations against the Russians who were captured as a result of wounds.

      Yes, it was like that during the Second World War, and after that they passed through the camps. It is difficult now to judge unambiguously. After all, the time was military, and therefore, the laws were such.
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 14 November 2019 07: 28
        +4
        Quote: aszzz888
        After all, the time was military, and therefore, the laws were such.

        I did not emphasize the reference to wartime, but on "beat your own people so that others are afraid" ... But I had to beat these "strangers" and "aliens" ... Perhaps today they would not be upset by the loss of the "Baltic sisters" .. ...
        1. aszzz888
          aszzz888 14 November 2019 07: 35
          +1
          ROSS 42 (region 42) Today, 07:28 ... But it was necessary to beat these "aliens" and "aliens" ...
          And beat so far.
  7. rocket757
    rocket757 14 November 2019 07: 33
    +1
    All, of course, must be done on time!
    Now it’s useless to regret it!
    For the future ... avoid such mistakes! what is doubtful, make new ones!
  8. Rzzz
    Rzzz 14 November 2019 07: 46
    +2
    And why was this case classified? In theory, everyone should know about such things.
    1. Unknown
      Unknown 14 November 2019 08: 19
      +1
      the clown knows him, maybe as always insured? the Baltic states, because it’s nearby, and questions may arise which are still not easy to give an answer to. because in those days Khrushchev put forward the slogan, “the people and the party are united,” and here the traitors, and even from the neighboring republic. the fact of the matter is that, in common sense, it was necessary to remind about this constantly, poke right in the eyes, so that guilt could be felt. maybe less today arose.
    2. glk63
      glk63 14 November 2019 09: 20
      0
      Quote: rzzz
      And why was this case classified? In theory, everyone should know about such things.

      It is possible that some of these punishers had relatives, quite normal people who fought in the ranks of the Red Army ... Well, what would it be like after such declassification? ..
    3. igordok
      igordok 14 November 2019 10: 02
      +1
      Quote: rzzz
      And why was this case classified? In theory, everyone should know about such things.

      It was not particularly classified. In the Pskov region , at least in the north-west of the region, this was known to have never been hidden. Criminal cases were going on. Several documentaries were shot. In my comment below is a photo of the road sign on the Pskov-Riga highway, established long ago.
      There was some silence - after all, allied Estonia.
  9. prior
    prior 14 November 2019 08: 22
    +2
    Well declassified .... and what's next.
    And then the Prosecutor General's Office of Russia should have flooded Interpol with statements about the extradition of these scum. And not only these. And not only from Estonia. But from all countries: Latvia, Lithuania, Ukraine, the United States and other "partners" .... Let Interpol scratch and run. Let the undead scum and the governments of all countries know that Russia always returns for its debts.
    And then they took fashion, rewrite history.
  10. Vladimir
    Vladimir 14 November 2019 09: 03
    +2
    It was a pity, but it was necessary, as the Mossad, to seek and destroy all the Nazis and their hangers-on.
  11. Moore
    Moore 14 November 2019 09: 03
    +1
    The camp was created by the Nazis immediately after the occupation of these territories, which Hitlerite Germany was going to introduce into Estonia.

    Maybe I understood this phrase very literally, but what kind of "Estonia" could be within the framework of the Ostland Reichskommissariat?
    All these representatives of "unique peoples" were planned, at best for them, to be Germanized, at worst to send their own victims of the beginning of the war along the way - the Estonians were the first to report on "Juden-fry".
  12. Ros 56
    Ros 56 14 November 2019 09: 18
    +2
    All these documents on all Nazi crimes and their accomplices must be constantly voiced at all which are international sites, in the Council of Europe, in the UN, etc. We must these Natsik everyday face poke into their atrocities, not a plowed field for our Foreign Ministry.
  13. igordok
    igordok 14 November 2019 09: 54
    +1
    We are talking about war crimes committed in the prisoner of war camp in Moglino and throughout the Pskov region. The camp was created by the Nazis immediately after the occupation of these territories, which Hitlerite Germany was going to introduce into Estonia. The Nazis set up a camp on the territory of the Soviet border commandant's office.

    In 1941, the Moglino camp was considered a POW labor camp belonging to Stalag 372 (Pskov). This camp (stalag) was in the "department" of the Luftwaffe. The guards were from the "pilots", and the prisoners of war worked mainly at the airfields. In the winter of 1941-42, when all the prisoners of war died, mostly froze, this camp passed into the status of a concentration camp and civilians were already kept in it. The guards were no longer Luftwaffe, but mostly Estonians.
    In Soviet times, there was a large documentary film about the Estonians who served in it. It said that if an Estonian liked some kind of house with land, he had every right to "move" the owners either to the Moglino camp, or to work in Estonia. And after serving in the camp for several months, he was the sovereign owner of this house.
    The camp was created by the Nazis immediately after the occupation of these territories, which Hitlerite Germany was going to introduce into Estonia. The Nazis set up a camp on the territory of the Soviet border commandant's office.

    There was no question of Estonia as part of Germany. Maximum protectorate as part of "Greater Germany".
  14. sledak
    sledak 14 November 2019 10: 00
    +1
    Quote: Civil
    The old war is haunted. Everyone who really fought has already left, but kitty, as in that joke, is squeezed out and squeezed out.
    And judging by what is happening in the world, all the conclusions from the old war are completely forgotten.


    Whoever remembers the old is over, and who forgets TWO.
    Previously, they were silent about this, so that the "fraternal" peoples would have an age-old union ...

    Well, even now, the facts began to roll out.

    I'd rather be one-eyed and ready for what kind of Poland-Romania-Estonia new fascists can attack together with star-striped than completely blind.

    Everything is clear with Ameromi, the war for resources, only business, so to speak, but whoever comes along with them under the guise of a horde of firing squads, needs to be cleaned up from PEOPLE, you must know and be prepared.
  15. 1536
    1536 14 November 2019 10: 24
    +1
    If such facts had not been classified earlier, perhaps today it would not have been necessary to say that all these crimes could be repeated again. This is the tragedy of today. As they used to say: "Nobody is forgotten, nothing is forgotten." It turned out that if something is classified, then you can forget. And crimes against humanity do not have limitation, by the way.
  16. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 14 November 2019 11: 08
    +1
    This is how many cases are still classified. Do not count. But still witnesses of the crimes of the Nazis and their accomplices are still alive.
  17. svp67
    svp67 14 November 2019 11: 59
    0
    No matter how it sounds, but it is worthwhile to make a calculation, translate and disclose the losses incurred IN MONETARY EXPRESSION. Let them know that everything has a PRICE. And whenever they want to present something to Russia, to remind about this account ...
  18. iouris
    iouris 14 November 2019 12: 02
    +1
    These Estonian (Galician and other) punishers who destroyed the Russian state, fighting against the Russian state, no longer survived. The problem is different: in 1991, states were created, the official ideology of which is anti-Russian anti-Russian. The official history of these new states is based solely on the idea of ​​the destruction of the Russian Russian statehood. This is based on the idea of ​​obtaining the lion's share of the resources necessary for the existence of these "new" states. This is why they "go to the West." Thus, those who designed the world "after the USSR" did not foresee a place in this world for Russian and Russian statehood.
  19. Tests
    Tests 14 November 2019 12: 20
    0
    romance66 (romance), dear, you are mistaken about Israel. They all know and remember, but there is a state policy and people's memory - and this, as in any country - there are two big differences ... IOC Chairman Juan Antonio Samaranch was a phalanxist, but he supported the 80 Olympics - the Order of Friendship of Peoples - received ...
    Photo from German archives is used in the material. The photo clearly shows the inscription: "Klooga". There was a concentration camp near the village of Klooga in the Harju region of the ESSR (about 40 km west of Tallinn), it was guarded by Estonians. The monument stands there from the relatives of Jews from Poland and Lithuania who were tortured there. There is no monument from the Russian Federation, I do not know if our Foreign Ministry made any attempts to at least discuss the issue of installing such a monument ... Yes, from the former concentration camp to the Amari airbase, where NATO fighters are based, about 10-15 km.
    glk63 (Alexey), dear, Soviet people knew a lot without declassification. Please remember the questionnaires from the times of the USSR, there are questions about relatives abroad, about relatives who were under trial and investigation, about those who were subjected to exile, deportation, was in captivity, interned, lived in the occupied territory. My mother had a friend - Maria Nikolaevna, in whose birth certificate it was written that she was born in the zone of operation of a partisan detachment in the BSSR in 1943, a certificate was signed by the detachment commander. The father of the newborn was the commissar of the detachment, the mother was the doctor of the detachment. At 2 months old, a newborn with her mother was taken by plane to the mainland, dad fought in the partisans until the age of 44, then served until the end of 45 in the army. Maria Nikolaevna worked all her life at Sevmash, and always wrote on the questionnaires: "I have not been to the occupied territories" ...
    Dmitry Potapov (Dmitry Potapov), let me disagree with you. In war - as in war. And the information war, we seem to be losing. That is why, about 1,5-2 months ago, in the comments to the materials on declassifying the atrocities of the Nazis and their accomplices, either to the liberation of Tallinn, or Vilnius, I wrote that the archives of the Department of Internal Affairs and the FSB RU before 1960 should be declassified. And to print in newspapers and on the Internet to spread in Germany, Sweden, Canada, the USA, Finland as a hero of the struggle for independence of Estonia in Jagrinlag from the general work on the construction of workshops of Sevmash was transferred to a penal camp in the Solza River Delta, but he did not die there on construction railway from Severodvinsk to the current Central training ground of the Russian Navy in Nyonoks, and miraculously received parole and left for the ESSR. And there he turned to his full potential in the fight against the USSR, and after 1991 he rushed to Europe or America. In independent Estonia he is a national hero! It is possible to declassify both the position and the title of opera, that he did a miracle to his former forest brother UDO, and show: whom he handed over the opera to, let the descendants of those whom he handed over, hot Estonian guys decide what to do with him or his memory. This is their, almost family, Estonian affair. And what does the Russian Federation have to do with it ?! In the Information Center and the Count of Komi, Kirov, Perm, Arkhangelsk, and Novosibirsk Regions, many documents are gathering dust without work, and declassifying them - in Estonia, many scandals will begin ...
    Back in 1986, in October, I asked the employees of the Information Center of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the ESSR how they could quickly deal with the forest brothers. The answer was this: unlike Lithuania, Belarus and Ukraine, we do not have large forests where military operations are necessary, the NKVD - NKGB opera worked without noise, the people were tired of bandits, every 6 inhabitants of the ESSR worked for operas.
  20. tagil
    tagil 14 November 2019 12: 23
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    “The four of us went into the house. There were four women and a child aged 10-11 in the house. None of the women cried, the child was also silent. We raised our weapons. I well remember that Aluoi fired first. He shot the child. The child fell to the floor. Then Aluoi fired again. This time he shot a woman. Then Lykhmus and Kullasta were shot. Only one woman survived. I raised my pistol and shot her in the region of the heart.
    Having finished shooting people in the second house, we headed to the fourth. In the House

    there were four women and four children. The cry of the people who realized that they were about to be shot was heartbreaking. It became creepy from the screaming of people. After the execution of 'my' woman, I could not stand it and went out into the street. Aluoja, Kullastu and Lõhmus remained in the house. Shots continued to be heard there. Then we went into another house. There were five women there. Aluoya raised his rifle and shot at the woman. Having reloaded the rifle, fired a shot at the second. The death of the woman was met in silence. None of them asked for mercy. Then Kullasta shot the woman, then Lykhmus killed the woman. One woman remained not killed. I killed this woman.

    Having finished shooting people in this house, we went outside. A terrible shrill scream rang out at one of the houses. I went to scream. At the burning house I saw a woman. She lay face down on the ground. Her hair burned, her clothes burned. I took out my gun and aimed at the area of ​​the heart. Shot.
    The woman jerked and stopped screaming. In total, in this way, in the village, I killed five people. One man and four more women. "


    A melancholy enumeration of an interrogated Estonian policeman.
    The well-done work of the Baltic lackey on the orders of the German master, you can be proud and then go to parades, talking about how the freedom fighters from the bloody Stalinist regime suffered. I can’t understand how, after this, these coves were spared in a terrible Soviet court and these brave Estonian veterans had the audacity to apply for rehabilitation and a criminal record. Delov - burned with the population in the Pskov region from 406 villages 325.
  21. surovts.valery
    surovts.valery 14 November 2019 15: 28
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    The case contains documents on the testimonies of Estonian punishers who stated at a court session in the USSR in the 60’s that they “do not remember the exact places of executions, since many years have passed”. According to the court decision, three punishers were sentenced to death in February 1968. At the same time, dozens of representatives of Nazi punitive groups managed to escape punishment.

    It is these documents that need to be shown to the Estonian and other Baltic descendants of these same punishers who are making claims to today's Russia for the alleged occupation of them, peace-loving, "white and fluffy" by the "totalitarian and bloody Soviet Union" (read Russia).
    Forgiven them, in the name of "the great friendship of peoples."
    And it would be necessary, if it were a real occupation, to hang these punishers in the squares of their cities and villages, in the presence of their compatriots, to conduct obligatory lectures and screenings of films about their atrocities, to take the inhabitants to exhumate and reburial the victims of their atrocities, and much more. another (see the experience of the Americans in their occupation zone of Germany in the denazification of the Germans). And yet there were many no less humane methods, somehow not very widely used by the "invaders", such as the "voluntary" departure of Estonian youth to Siberian construction sites (see the German experience of the "Ostarbeiters"). History is silent about the mirror response to the Estonian punishers who “do not remember the exact places of executions” and burned down Estonian villages.
    By the way, the same applies to any other "enslaved" by the totalitarian USSR after WWII, East Europeans, such as Hungarians, Slovaks, Czechs, Romanians and other active participants of the Drangnahosten.
    1. iouris
      iouris 14 November 2019 16: 38
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      Quote: surovts.valery
      Forgiven them, in the name of "the great friendship of peoples."

      First, no one was forgiven, everyone was punished. Secondly, there was "friendship of peoples", but only in the USSR. And the USSR was dissolved by the leadership of the USSR from Moscow. Now, instead of friendship, "economic cooperation" where our "partners" view the Russian Federation as a source of cheap raw materials and a sales market.