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Shooting in one of the colleges of Blagoveshchensk

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From Blagoveshchensk, there are reports of a tragic incident in one of the local educational institutions. The reports say the shooting at the Amur College of Construction and Housing.

At the moment, it is stated that the shooting was opened by one of the college students. The Ministry of Health of the Amur Region says that one person died, three were injured of varying severity.

Eyewitnesses report that people ran out of the college building to the sound of gunfire. One of the local residents on a social network writes that he saw "how police officers took a young man or man out of the building."

From the report:

Some type walks with the barrel.

About which one weapons in question, not officially reported. The blogs stated that the student brought a hunting rifle to the college building and opened fire in one of the classrooms, where at that moment classes were going on and there were about twenty students.

The Annunciation media reports that the student allegedly carried the gun into the college building earlier, hiding it in the toilet. During the lesson, he went out, and then returned to the audience with a weapon.

So far, all these statements in the local media have not been commented on by official bodies.

The area where the college is located is cordoned off by the police, the work of the OMON detachment is reported.

Meanwhile, videos appear on the network, the author of which claims to be from the same audience where the shooting took place. The footage shows how assistance is provided to a wounded young man. The students themselves render it. Due to the fact that the information on the compliance of the video with the described data is not confirmed, the video does not publish.
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  1. Far B
    Far B 14 November 2019 06: 07 New
    +7
    Westernization of the country continues. Sad ...
    1. Black_Vatnik
      Black_Vatnik 14 November 2019 06: 25 New
      +35
      Columbineization. Teachers ceased to be educators, young mothers completely rejected the classical methods of education, preferring all sorts of newfangled textbooks from "expert psychologists." Well, now we will slurp these columbines more and more often.
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 14 November 2019 06: 53 New
        +34
        My friend, the teacher at the college said the students have more rights than yours .. You won’t do anything to us ...
        1. swnvaleria
          swnvaleria 14 November 2019 08: 57 New
          +25
          in my time, for such a statement, students would get on the head and, at best, get off with expulsion, destroy the Soviet system; now we are reaping the fruits of the Western system
          1. nikolai.kolya
            nikolai.kolya 14 November 2019 09: 48 New
            +3
            and so those who received on the head and deducted raise such ....
        2. Lieutenant Teterin
          Lieutenant Teterin 14 November 2019 11: 36 New
          +11
          This is the result of creeping juvenile education. Teens very quickly learn the mantra “we have rights to children!”, But they prefer not to remember the responsibility that comes with the rights. This is sad. One involuntarily recalls the classical gymnasiums, where teachers and educators had tremendous power over students and could cultivate a sense of duty, responsibility and self-mastery in them. Graduates of those high schools literally knew how to carry the world on their shoulders. And now ... I will not say anything to Luce, so as not to break into sheer obscene language.
        3. Black_Vatnik
          Black_Vatnik 14 November 2019 13: 13 New
          +5
          And rightly so, they will not. Any movement of the teacher, after half an hour will storm the records on views on YouTube. And "mothers' committees," sometimes behave worse than ss. They have whole groups in social networks and messengers where they collectively discuss how to punish a teacher for the fact that “my unique sonnyka” made a remark.
      2. Konstantin Shevchenko
        Konstantin Shevchenko 14 November 2019 07: 41 New
        -7
        Teachers ceased to be educators
        We have a country of orphans? And college teachers. Kindergarten teachers.
        1. Ros 56
          Ros 56 14 November 2019 09: 13 New
          +6
          Well, you really surprised me. First, what have the orphans to do with it? Secondly, for you, the discovery that teachers are also educators? Then you are in kindergarten.
          1. edelweiss968
            edelweiss968 14 November 2019 12: 35 New
            0
            teachers teach, educate - family or society
            1. Ros 56
              Ros 56 14 November 2019 13: 32 New
              +5
              You tell this to your grandmother, I worked with boys for more than twenty years. From 1972 to 1993.
              1. edelweiss968
                edelweiss968 14 November 2019 14: 37 New
                0
                Are we already on you? I have experience from 1989 until now, so what? recall at what age the child has fully formed his scale of "good" and "bad"? The teacher can only correct what is already in place, for 5 years is not school age. and in order to influence a child, one must adopt him - that is, replace his parents with himself. Do you know many of these in the current education system?
                1. Ros 56
                  Ros 56 14 November 2019 16: 16 New
                  +1
                  I just don’t recognize her, she’s not.
                  And about adoption, you just need to be a man and love your students, then there will be authority and the ability to influence them. And put all your arguments into your portfolio, you are our theorist.
                  1. edelweiss968
                    edelweiss968 14 November 2019 17: 28 New
                    0
                    Well, yes, of course, where am I to you! let me clarify only two facts - are there among your students successful professionals - in the degree of Doctor of Science, or the title of Head, Deputy Head of the Department in the Ministry of Defense? no? Well then, I'm sorry, I'm flying away. Yes, I can tell you about the practice separately. Yes, and more, students must be respected, and I prefer to love adult, sexually mature women laughing
          2. Demon_is_ada
            Demon_is_ada 14 November 2019 13: 09 New
            0
            They are educators and spiritual mentors, and Kinder can now teach themselves on the Internet, that is, self-educate, but who will tell you what it is, what’s good? In the internet, along with really useful and interesting information, there is everything, even harmful and dangerous ...
          3. region58
            region58 14 November 2019 13: 24 New
            +3
            Quote: Ros 56
            teachers are also educators

            Alas, this is no longer the case. It used to be Teachers (exactly like that - with a capital letter), now the term “educational services” is more common. All the rest is no-no-moral abuse of personality ...
      3. Alexander Petrov1
        Alexander Petrov1 14 November 2019 20: 42 New
        -5
        Well, if I open the door to the house and I don’t close it, sooner or later someone will come to misbehave, it is necessary that the metal detectors stand and have professional security, and not the decrepit grandfathers ...
    2. Civil
      Civil 14 November 2019 06: 52 New
      +17
      Yeah, the Internet, computer games, mobile phones, geyropa are to blame. Everyone except us.
      1. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 14 November 2019 07: 30 New
        +3
        And the mass media is full of articles and reports that children are militarized somewhere TAM .. In mattress, Ukroin ...
      2. loki565
        loki565 14 November 2019 08: 50 New
        -13
        Where did you get the 5th charging shotgun ??? will tighten the weapons storage nuts and rightly so.
        1. Avior
          Avior 14 November 2019 09: 06 New
          +4
          In Kerch, I just took it and bought it.
          If age allows, and this one could well.
          1. Valery Charushin
            Valery Charushin 14 November 2019 12: 02 New
            +2
            So it was. 19 years old, permission, registration is all legal. Countryman however.
          2. hhurik
            hhurik 14 November 2019 12: 29 New
            +1
            IZH-81, 12 cal. - legally acquired by the attacker.

        2. Irokez
          Irokez 14 November 2019 09: 49 New
          -10
          I agree. Let lovers of gunshots, short barrels and weapons generally sit and admire him in the computer. At least virtually with this weapon you cannot physically kill a person and do not cripple.
          1. Varyag71
            Varyag71 14 November 2019 10: 31 New
            +6
            Woman's reasoning
        3. BARKHAN
          BARKHAN 14 November 2019 10: 10 New
          +18
          Quote: loki565
          Where did you get the 5th charging shotgun ??? will tighten the weapons storage nuts and rightly so.

          Why is this right? And how to tighten the screws even more? Why should I suffer because of some kind of geek? Will it not be more fair to punish the guilty for their deeds, and not the innocent for other people's sins. In your opinion, it is necessary to disarm all citizens of Russia ... civilians, policemen (Yevsyukov), military (sometimes they shoot on guard) ... Yes, and generally forbid to keep knives, axes, forks in the household ... And also rolling pins, pans. irons ... A lot of people kill cars ... forbid nafig. Elevators, cranes, and old trees still fall ... forbid everything. And legislatively tighten the nuts on each issue. Drive everything to the stall and give out food and air in batches ... and even better, every citizen can insert electrodes into the brain and to control then precisely no one will do anything illegal ...
          1. loki565
            loki565 14 November 2019 10: 34 New
            -8
            Why should I suffer because of some geek?

            Most often, the arrows take weapons from their relatives, from safes, etc. Why they have access to a safe is another matter. Each owner of a weapon should have a personal criminal responsibility for this weapon. He gave the keys to the safe to his son, nephew, acquaintance, you sit down with him.
            .Very many people kill cars ... prohibit nafig.

            no need to juggle, an automobile is a means of transportation that poses a danger but still a means of transportation, and a weapon is a means of murder and the responsibility for it should be greater. And the drivers who caused the accident with a fatal outcome also bear criminal responsibility.
            1. BARKHAN
              BARKHAN 14 November 2019 11: 02 New
              +13
              Quote: loki565
              Most often, the arrows take weapons from their relatives, from safes

              This is not so. Do not misinterpret the statistics. More often unregistered trunks are used.
              Quote: loki565
              Each owner of a weapon must have a personal criminal responsibility for this weapon

              Responsibility is already there. Existing laws are quite enough. Their execution is another matter.
              Quote: loki565
              no need to juggle, an automobile is a means of transportation that poses a danger but still a means of transportation, and a weapon is a means of murder and the responsibility for it should be greater.

              I’m afraid that the terrorists will disagree with you ... they quite use cars as weapons. And airplanes are a means of transportation ... but only kamikaze with the same terrorists are again against ...
              Quote: loki565
              and weapons are a means of murder and responsibility for them should be greater.

              If you have such an opinion, it means for sure that something is wrong with the perception of reality, which requires close attention of psychiatry. Weapons you can not be trusted under any circumstances.
              For me, weapons are sports entertainment and hunting meat. And the farther people live from cities, the lower the risk of being shot by a psycho.
              1. loki565
                loki565 14 November 2019 11: 32 New
                -8
                This is not so. Do not misinterpret the statistics. More often unregistered trunks are used.

                Statistics in the studio, precisely on the "school" shooters. Unregistered trunks? a good term shines for them.
                If you have such an opinion, it means for sure that something is wrong with the perception of reality, which requires close attention of psychiatry. Weapons you can not be trusted under any circumstances.
                For me, weapons are sports entertainment and hunting meat. And the farther people live from cities, the lower the risk of being shot by a psycho.

                And again, you distort and think only about yourself, your ambitions and Wishlist. Do animals from you die from hard work or from killing for the sake of self-affirmation and fun ???
                You need it for sports entertainment, and someone from your environment may have other plans ...
                And here the question is not whether for hunting you need weapons or for self-defense, it should not fall into the hands of third parties.
                1. hhurik
                  hhurik 14 November 2019 12: 39 New
                  +2
                  What is the term? wink You are so far from the topic that you don’t even know - civilian smooth-bore long-barrel firearms, its main parts and cartridges for it are withdrawn (with the exception of sales) from the scope of the Criminal Code. This is an administrative offense. And these unregistered shotguns - which were sold in the USSR in general to everyone - a huge amount.
                  1. loki565
                    loki565 14 November 2019 12: 57 New
                    -4
                    Well, that's what this is all about, for the storage (carrying) of unregistered weapons there should be a time limit and nothing else. Why is a respectable citizen such a weapon ???)))
                    1. hhurik
                      hhurik 14 November 2019 13: 48 New
                      0
                      All this is a passed stage: in the first edition of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation there was a criminal liability of smooth on a par with rough. The result is zero, some costs and expenses, therefore, lawmakers quickly returned back.
                      1. loki565
                        loki565 14 November 2019 13: 53 New
                        -5
                        Well, it means such a fine that it would not be profitable to keep illegal weapons. If, for example, a shotgun costs 50k, then the illegal illegal 500k
                        Why is a respectable citizen such a weapon?
                      2. hhurik
                        hhurik 14 November 2019 14: 09 New
                        +3
                        Fear of arms is a sign of retarded sexual and mental development. Z. Freud
                        Normal people - do not ask such questions, they just get what they want. Or pass by.
                      3. loki565
                        loki565 14 November 2019 14: 24 New
                        -2
                        Fear of arms is a sign of retarded sexual and mental development. Z. Freud
                        Normal people - do not ask such questions, they just get what they want. Or pass by.

                        So the conversation was about illegal weapons))) it's like buying a car and not registering it, riding without numbers so that in the event of an accident it would be more difficult to find you. And Freud was that still a comedian, he has one step from sexual development to incest)))
                      4. hhurik
                        hhurik 14 November 2019 15: 45 New
                        +1
                        In this case, we are talking about legal weapons acquired through proper means.
                        If you specifically have a rectum falling out at the sight of shotgun, this is not a reason to extend your perversions to other citizens engaged in fishing, hunting and sports.
        4. loki565
          loki565 14 November 2019 11: 42 New
          -4
          For me, weapons are sports entertainment and hunting meat.

          Yes, and there are different hunters, so to speak, expectation and reality)))

          1. Thompson
            Thompson 15 November 2019 18: 13 New
            -1
            Did you present this as a rule, or is it an exception?
            But apparently you are so far from this crown that you are right, they say here ... do you have eggs?
            The whole world is armed, but our liberals need to disarm us. Was there a nice man in the army? And the other day, a friend said, why do we need an army! It turned out not served! Expert! S
        5. Irokez
          Irokez 14 November 2019 11: 55 New
          -5
          Quote: Barkhan
          weapons are sports entertainment and hunting meat. And the farther people live from cities, the lower the risk of being shot by a psycho.

          Well, you do not contradict the previous interlocutor.
          - By killing the meat you kill (this was said)
          - That’s why it is necessary to ban weapons in crowded places, which I always spoke about and poked amateurs who want to protect themselves by carrying weapons.
          - And sport, he should be only at the shooting range and under the explicit and tireless supervision of regulatory authorities and in no way in the crowd or at school.
          1. Paranoid50
            Paranoid50 15 November 2019 01: 38 New
            +2
            Quote: Irokez
            always talked and poked his nose fans to protect themselves by carrying weapons.

            Alas, Sergey, everything is past the target. The “short-stemmed” population has a certain psychological portrait, according to which your arguments are doomed to rejection from the very beginning. In some cases, although it is more individual, the intervention of psychiatrists is required, moreover, immediate, otherwise surgeons, or even pathologists, will be required. am
            1. Fikys
              Fikys 15 November 2019 11: 35 New
              -1
              Quote: Paranoid50
              Alas, Sergey, everything is past the target

              The population of opponents of the civilian short-barrel has a certain psychological portrait, according to which any arguments are initially doomed to rejection. In some cases, although it is more individual, the intervention of psychiatrists is required.
        6. Valery Charushin
          Valery Charushin 14 November 2019 12: 16 New
          +1
          The student had a Fox type pump - never for hunting, no stock, length, slightly> 80 cm.
          1. Fikys
            Fikys 15 November 2019 11: 31 New
            0
            On the pheasant - just right;) There are enough of them in Amurka.
    3. region58
      region58 14 November 2019 13: 26 New
      +2
      Quote: Barkhan
      insert electrodes into the brain

      So you can kill too - hence ban electricity. wassat
  2. Vol4ara
    Vol4ara 14 November 2019 10: 34 New
    +4
    Quote: loki565
    Where did you get the 5th charging shotgun ??? will tighten the weapons storage nuts and rightly so.

    For example, in a gun shop. They will tighten the nuts for hunters, and whoever needs to buy at least Kalash in the darknet for bitcoin
    1. loki565
      loki565 14 November 2019 13: 59 New
      -2
      For example, in a gun shop. They will tighten the nuts for hunters, and whoever needs to buy at least Kalash in the darknet for bitcoin

      Do you think the student will be able to buy Kalash? There is a high probability that he will fall into the field of view of the FSB
      1. Vol4ara
        Vol4ara 14 November 2019 21: 23 New
        +3
        Quote: loki565
        For example, in a gun shop. They will tighten the nuts for hunters, and whoever needs to buy at least Kalash in the darknet for bitcoin

        Do you think the student will be able to buy Kalash? There is a high probability that he will fall into the field of view of the FSB

        Anyone who knows how to turn on a laptop is capable of this, and schoolchildren will give you a head start. The whole world buys drugs through bookmarks, the same scheme works for weapons
  3. basmach
    basmach 14 November 2019 11: 17 New
    +10
    And let's ban the axes. It was like that. And then the knives with forks, piercing and cutting after all.
    1. hhurik
      hhurik 14 November 2019 12: 44 New
      +3
      Licensing is necessary for this type of life: let the housewives take safe handling of knives / forks / pans in the local outskirts of the Russian Guard. Annually. On a fee basis. fellow
  • Obi-Wan Kenobi
    Obi-Wan Kenobi 14 November 2019 06: 53 New
    +10
    Right Damn survived ...
    Some kind of wild west. He took a gun and went to the people to shoot left and right.
    Reading such articles, it somehow becomes uncomfortable.
    Under the Union, this was not. And now the news is scary to watch. Like daily reports from the front.
    It burns there, it was flooded, someone was kicked out of the apartment, then the “drunk” child was crushed, everything was stolen, suddenly winter came and everything would freeze soon, a soldier of 8 people was shot, etc. etc., no end.
    Have we been able to degrade so much over the past 27 years ?!
    1. Far B
      Far B 14 November 2019 07: 01 New
      +10
      That's for sure. At the Tokarev Union, he listened: "I always bless America, I will buy a gun - I’ll shoot at passers-by ..." He was laughing, like a horse - for us it was unthinkable, although, it seems, a working village, even the former "chemistry". And now I don’t feel like laughing.
    2. Tsoy
      Tsoy 14 November 2019 07: 07 New
      +10
      Under the Union, this was not. And now the news is scary to watch. Like daily reports from the front.


      Of course, they didn’t shoot at schools, as far as I know, but everything that happened was just no Internet and was eager for the sensations of journalists. For example:

      In April of the 1950 of the year in the village of Giska (near Bender, the Moldavian SSR): a military teacher brought to the school packages with 12 kg of tol and blew it up during classes in one of the classes. The cause of the explosion was an unrequited love for one of his colleagues. The building was destroyed, 23 people died (including military commander), many were injured. Graduation of the entire school that year totaled only 5 students.
      1. Obi-Wan Kenobi
        Obi-Wan Kenobi 14 November 2019 07: 18 New
        +9
        Everyone, of course, was also missing.
        But firstly, they didn’t tell us about it and I think that they did it right.
        And secondly, before this was almost a state-of-the-art emergency. And the first secretary (head) of the district or region, for such a party card, put it on the table and "went far, and for a long time."
        And now. Well, I shot, it’s not his fault, it’s all our life, fate-villain. Well, who does not happen. Here, as if WE are to blame the whole country, and not he alone. And other nonsense.
        That is, we are already prepared in advance for a "fun" future.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 14 November 2019 07: 34 New
          +2
          It’s not possible to solve anything with half measures, but to take decisive measures, as it’s not clear everything, and therefore it's dumb!
        2. nikolai.kolya
          nikolai.kolya 14 November 2019 09: 51 New
          +2
          if you weren’t told about this case, would it be easier?
        3. Tsoy
          Tsoy 14 November 2019 10: 21 New
          +3
          But firstly, they didn’t tell us about it and I think that they did it right.


          To be honest, the logic is like my hut from the edge. From the silence of the problem, it will not disappear.

          And now. Well, I shot, it’s not his fault, it’s all our life, fate-villain. Well, who does not happen. Here, as if WE are to blame the whole country, and not he alone. And other nonsense.


          I don’t understand a bit when they say "the country is to blame", "now the times have gone," "where did parents, teachers, officials look?" A man came to take revenge. What the hell is the difference in what time or place he lived? Not with a gun, so with a knife I would have come. This is a psychological problem of one individual taken personally, that he could not find another way but to kill.
          1. Obi-Wan Kenobi
            Obi-Wan Kenobi 14 November 2019 12: 06 New
            +3
            the problem of one individual taken personally that he could not find another way but to kill.

            This always happens in countries where the law does not work.
            1. Irokez
              Irokez 14 November 2019 12: 24 New
              -1
              Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi
              This always happens in countries where the law does not work.

              I do not find logic and communication in your conclusions.
              1. Obi-Wan Kenobi
                Obi-Wan Kenobi 14 November 2019 12: 54 New
                +3
                It's simple.
                I don't think this guy is crazy. Although this may be.
                Most likely, a number of circumstances led to this act. Which I don’t know. It may be like that shooter who put 8 people.
                Indeed, the people around him, probably the same students and teachers, saw everything perfectly and were in the know. But no one did anything.
                Just because it’s useless to complain to the police. You’ll find yourself guilty. They will also trample or expel from work because the rubbish is taken out of the hut.
                1. Captain45
                  Captain45 14 November 2019 14: 40 New
                  0
                  Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi
                  Indeed, the people around him, probably the same students and teachers, saw everything perfectly and were in the know. But no one did anything.

                  Of course, no one did anything, because for some - "zahhhhhlo mentam knock", for others - "gee-gee, it’s fun to drive them now, remove it for YouTube", etc. etc. And about
                  Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi
                  Just because it's useless to complain to the police
                  You are in vain, obviously do not know the system. After all the “school shooters,” the police and the RG respond to messages like “a schoolboy with a gun came to school,” reacts instantly, at least out of a sense of keeping his ass in the chair. And yes, the witnesses of Misha Dvapatron will run right now shouting "give us the COP, we will put all and save" fool
                  1. Obi-Wan Kenobi
                    Obi-Wan Kenobi 14 November 2019 15: 00 New
                    +1
                    You are in vain, obviously do not know the system. After all the “school shooters,” the police and the WG respond to messages like “a schoolboy with a gun came to school,” reacts instantly

                    The police are obliged to prevent a crime, and not to investigate an already committed one.
                    If a student comes to school with a gun, that's all ... It's too late to rush around.
                    So to speak - Extinguish the light, throw a grenade!
                    1. Captain45
                      Captain45 14 November 2019 15: 39 New
                      +1
                      That
                      Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi
                      The police are obliged to prevent a crime, and not to investigate an already committed one.

                      you need to know who breathes with what, but in our country they still live according to concepts, therefore
                      Quote: Captain45
                      "zahhhhhlo cops pounding,"
                      and, as a rule, the police react to the perfect, and do not act proactively i.e. goes from crime to criminal, and not vice versa.
    3. Letun
      Letun 14 November 2019 08: 32 New
      -2
      Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi
      Right Damn survived ...
      Some kind of wild west. He took a gun and went to the people to shoot left and right.

      Now the infantiles who did not play war games in childhood will go into the topic and explain that if every college student had 45 magnum magnum, they would have neutralized this psycho before he shot anyone with a thread.
      1. vadson
        vadson 14 November 2019 08: 54 New
        +8
        in Russian spring it is described in more detail, in particular, that this is revenge and he shot nobody at all, but took revenge on his offenders. the teacher did not touch. one of the students forced to jump out the window - said to live, you want to jump out. that is, a person had a goal and not just a cuckoo
        1. Irokez
          Irokez 14 November 2019 09: 57 New
          -2
          Quote: vadson
          that is, a person had a goal and not just a cuckoo

          It’s clear that he didn’t do it deliriously, but why in the educational institution you can even track down the street or go to housing, but it turns out to the public and gut.
          And again, common truths "the lack of weapons - the absence of killing from it", which means life goes on.
          1. vadson
            vadson 14 November 2019 10: 06 New
            +10
            Imagine a situation, a young man, a bride. and a bunch of stupid individuals spread rot at his school, they assert themselves on it. for example, he goes down the hall with a girl and some character kicks him in the ass, well, he will turn around, and there will be 5-6 people there. What will he do? if the girl is smart, then she just will not let a fight happen, take him from there. under the gaggle of the crowd. and if this is repeated all the time? it is right to punish them. cops will send away. by himself, but the crowd will break him. but how to collect them all at once and be counted? so he chose the time and place when they are all together. He didn’t tolerate humiliation and, as he shot himself, he didn’t see himself in prison. although he could have remained alive.
            ps I do not condone him, he is a criminal. this is my point of view on what happened
            1. Puzoter
              Puzoter 14 November 2019 10: 27 New
              -2
              The recipe is simple - they gave podzhopnik, turn around and tear the offender. What will happen to you after that is the fifth case. If you are not a coward, they will appreciate it and 99% will roll it off. And mother's sons and whiners, who are only heroes in their imagination, first hide behind the girl, and then grab the gun and shoot everyone in a row.
              1. Avior
                Avior 14 November 2019 10: 54 New
                +7
                You have idealistic views.
                If there are five of them, you won’t tear anyone, they’ll just beat you up in the face, and if they begin to come up and understand, they will say that they accidentally pushed you, and you climbed like a scumbag.
                Not to mention the fact that he kicked one, but will you tear five of them?
                .If you are not a coward, they will appreciate it and 99% will roll it off.

                Just as idealistic.
                Don Quixote is not your relative?
                YouTube is filled with a video where teenagers in a crowd beat one, and you about "appreciate".
                1. Puzoter
                  Puzoter 14 November 2019 11: 00 New
                  -6
                  Cowards attack the crowd, and cowards panic fear the brave. Just try it - it really works.
                  1. Avior
                    Avior 14 November 2019 11: 11 New
                    +10
                    Sorry, this is said in kindergarten, it is very far from reality.
                    Quite often, the resistance of the victim of the attack only makes the attackers angry.
                    If you don’t do something shocking that poses a real and serious threat, for example, do not grab a knife and stab one of the attackers, your courage alone will not help you much in most cases.
                    For the nobility in the style of "they will appreciate it and 99% will roll it off", forget in most cases, this is not a knightly tournament for you.
                    1. Demon_is_ada
                      Demon_is_ada 14 November 2019 13: 35 New
                      -4
                      Sergey, if I grab you in the throat, then you will have zero chances laughing even if there are 20 people. Only five people can participate in sparing at a time crying , four against one, the place is trite enough laughing There is a course of hand-to-hand combat in cramped places, so if I hold you by the throat and hide behind you in a corner, then only one fighter can act against me ...
                      And even without knowing anything about tactics, in our case, you will still meet me in hell laughing ... well, yes, but still a couple of minutes earlier ... And tearing off your hands is useless, if only with the laryngeal cartilage already broken ...
                    2. Avior
                      Avior 14 November 2019 13: 45 New
                      +5
                      . There is a course of hand-to-hand combat in cramped places, so if I hold you by the throat and hide behind you in a corner, then only one fighter can act against me ...

                      And this is a common thing, every teenager has special forces training.
                      Are you serious?
                      What sparring? You’ll get hit on the head with something, you’ll unclench your hands.
                      And if you remain disabled at the same time, it’s your own fault, you were accidentally pushed and you rushed to kill a teenager.
                    3. Puzoter
                      Puzoter 14 November 2019 15: 10 New
                      -1
                      And I did not promise anyone a guaranteed victory. Most likely, for the first time they will really get the hell out of them anyway, but for the second time they will think for 10 times, or maybe they will offer friendship. After all, the dispute is about a specific situation - systematic humiliation within the walls of an educational institution. Stop it with dignity is possible only as I said. If one considers the option of suicide and subsequent suicide, then in the 101st turn. Especially massive.
                2. edelweiss968
                  edelweiss968 14 November 2019 14: 50 New
                  +3
                  try with a crowd of youngsters inadequate - fans after the match, after the N-th amount of alcohol substitute, but just in the evening on foreign territory! even better after Friday prayers smile
              2. basmach
                basmach 14 November 2019 11: 48 New
                +5
                Goodbye. Here is a case from my life. Four people came to me in the comp club (the year before, the little brothers offered to unfasten a small share of the roof, but refused) not youngsters (according to 25), which they really needed, were not voiced. Three in the room, one outside. One turned over the table defiantly. There are four of them, where am I going to go, okrom how shut up. Well, I immediately charged him in the jaw. The next thing I remember (apparently standing behind something knocked over the head, then the little boys said) I stand on all fours, next to one of them. How much strength was enough, hit him in the groin with his fist. And the strangest thing is, they immediately left.
                Yes, they broke their nose, sometimes it hurt, but never give up.
                1. edelweiss968
                  edelweiss968 14 November 2019 14: 53 New
                  +1
                  Quote: basmach
                  And the strangest thing is, they immediately left.

                  strange, usually still to be continued, but it is quite possible that there was a time calculation, or the surveillance cameras saw it.
          2. Lieutenant Teterin
            Lieutenant Teterin 14 November 2019 11: 45 New
            +2
            In my time (about 10 years ago), such problems were solved by contacting the company’s factory. Like, "Come out alone, if you don’t be a coward." After this, the crowd usually didn’t throw, it was considered shameful not to answer such a call.
            1. Avior
              Avior 14 November 2019 11: 50 New
              +5
              Other times, and a crowd of one to beat was more likely the norm. Nobleness has not been trending for a long time.
              There is still a question, but if they really got stronger, then how?
              He will fill your face and if it pops up, he will say that you yourself started
              1. Lieutenant Teterin
                Lieutenant Teterin 14 November 2019 12: 03 New
                0
                Other times are possible. But before, with the phrase "go out for one or ... chickened out" (it was really rude) it was really possible to honestly deal with one person. But if the winder is stronger ... then there were two options. The first is to avoid this company by all means. And the second is to get in physical shape, since there are almost horizontal bars and bars in almost every yard. Previously, such questions were treated more simply: the guys had a fight after class - their business, no one will complain or climb. I remember that a friend and I had a serious quarrel and a piece of ice flew into my jaw. A week went with broken lips, but at school no one asked me any extra questions. And then we reconciled with a friend, and after six years, I went to his wedding for a walk. smile
        2. Vol4ara
          Vol4ara 14 November 2019 10: 41 New
          +3
          Quote: Irokez
          Quote: vadson
          that is, a person had a goal and not just a cuckoo

          It’s clear that he didn’t do it deliriously, but why in the educational institution you can even track down the street or go to housing, but it turns out to the public and gut.
          And again, common truths "the lack of weapons - the absence of killing from it", which means life goes on.

          It’s because traveling through the whole city from one abuser to another with weapons in one’s hands isn’t something like that, especially when one has already failed and they are already looking for you, but in college everything is in one place. And yes, let's ban kitchen knives.
          1. Irokez
            Irokez 14 November 2019 12: 14 New
            -2
            Well, firstly, dear, to take revenge - this does not mean to kill. There are many other ways, and even noble ones, to show a person his baseness and negative act.
            And secondly, a kitchen knife like a brick is not a weapon as such. But all kinds of firearms - this is a weapon and it is used at a distance out of the reach of the defender, therefore, with impunity and guaranteed to be safe for the attacker. If such a weapon weren’t the criminal would have thought to attack or not, for this implies close contact with the enemy, and in the worst case, he could have suffered from an attempt of his own attack.
            1. Vol4ara
              Vol4ara 14 November 2019 19: 45 New
              +1
              Quote: Irokez
              Well, firstly, dear, to take revenge - this does not mean to kill. There are many other ways, and even noble ones, to show a person his baseness and negative act.
              And secondly, a kitchen knife like a brick is not a weapon as such. But all kinds of firearms - this is a weapon and it is used at a distance out of the reach of the defender, therefore, with impunity and guaranteed to be safe for the attacker. If such a weapon weren’t the criminal would have thought to attack or not, for this implies close contact with the enemy, and in the worst case, he could have suffered from an attempt of his own attack.

              Firstly, it’s not about revenge, but about killing for revenge, because not on the street, but in college, what’s not clear?
              It’s easier to buy a trunk on the darknet than to formalize it officially, at least if you answer before the law later is not included in the plans
        3. Captain45
          Captain45 14 November 2019 14: 42 New
          -1
          Quote: Irokez
          "the absence of weapons - the absence of killing from it,"

          good
          1. Vol4ara
            Vol4ara 14 November 2019 19: 41 New
            +2
            Quote: Captain45
            Quote: Irokez
            "the absence of weapons - the absence of killing from it,"

            good

            What is a weapon and what is not determined by law, in fact, everything can be a weapon. Killed at all times
  • BARKHAN
    BARKHAN 14 November 2019 10: 23 New
    +7
    Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi
    Under the Union, this was not

    It was. And the planes stole, and the children were taken hostage, and the maniacs were, and the planes fell, and the trains burned down along with the passengers, and the cities were wiped off the face of the earth after an earthquake, burying tens of thousands of lives under themselves ... Only in their locality, in Soviet times, I know about a dozen cases of shooting from hunting weapons at people and real estate ... with varying degrees of consequences, including deaths (mostly drunk) ... There were a lot of scary things ...
    It’s just that all this did not fall out on the heads of citizens from all the zombies and did not sing in the movies ...
    The state simply left its people to their fate ... everyone is now doing their own thing ... that’s the result.
  • AU Ivanov.
    AU Ivanov. 14 November 2019 10: 31 New
    +5
    What was not during the Union? Shooting from a gunshot at people? Oh well. In my small homeland, in the late 70s, a figure from a hunting ground put four, including a district police officer. It’s just that these incidents were hidden from the people, so it seemed to us that “everything is fine, a beautiful marquise”
  • Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 14 November 2019 10: 44 New
    +2
    And he did such things with a shotgun ... And if, on “joy”, alas, the law on a “sale”, for example, a “short-barrel”, had been adopted by numerous idiots? And the "dashing misfortune began" ... "the main thing is to start" ... amateur squires would immediately start a "campaign" and for a "wide sale" of carbines! And then this one would have pinned to college with a pair of pistols and a pair of self-loading carbines ! How many victims would be then?
    1. cat Rusich
      cat Rusich 14 November 2019 20: 46 New
      0
      Look at the ads of SKS, Saiga, Boar. "Ready-made kit for sports, put your scope and go shoot!" - The real announcement of the seller Saiga for 55 000 p. Self-loading carbines are sold now. There was a case in Medvedkovo of shooting from Vepr on November 7.11.2012, 6 - XNUMX were killed.
    2. Fikys
      Fikys 15 November 2019 12: 05 New
      -2
      It would almost certainly not have been at all, because there would have been no reason for revenge. "Get" an armed person willing, usually not found. In extreme cases, there would be one if such a "bold" was found;)
      1. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 15 November 2019 13: 51 New
        +2
        However ... in the USA there are also gun stores, and the right to purchase firearms by US citizens, and the right to keep arms "arsenals" ... But why so often reports come from the USA about regular "gunshot" showdowns, executions? And did the "right to acquire and store a firearm protect the victims ... and even wear it? Wearing a firearm" always and everywhere "is a perversion! Unfortunately, the" firearm guardians "forget (do not want to) turn on the" think-tank "or does it They are missing!
        1. Fikys
          Fikys 15 November 2019 15: 53 New
          -1
          The number of "gunfights" in the United States, if anything, is half that in the Russian Federation. Examples of countries (states) where they allowed the wearing of a short barrels and crime has decreased there, are they not telling you anything? And the opposite examples?
          I consider the ideological opponents of the legalization of the short-barrel to be bad people who want troubles and deaths to their fellow citizens. The ability to have weapons from ancient times distinguished a free man from a slave.
          1. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I 16 November 2019 08: 18 New
            +2
            Quote: Fikys
            I consider the ideological opponents of the legalization of the short-barrel to be bad people who want troubles and deaths to their fellow citizens.

            After these words, to be honest, I don’t have a desire to “discuss” with you .. forgive me for God's sake, and I don’t mean you specifically, but in such cases I usually use the definition of "idiots" ... If you mean the USA , then there is the right to acquire and have weapons there for more than a century. And yet ... legal nonsense there does not exist to such an extent. as in Russia! There is such a TV show about American forensics .... (ID Extra ... it seems ...). Analyzing the stories in this program, you involuntarily draw conclusions: many crimes ... if they were not impossible, they would be very difficult without use a "firearm"! It is the "firearm" that contributes to crimes, "thanks to", ease of use ,,! As for statistics ... don’t you know how statistics are compared with one of the “oldest” professions? It depends where, but in Russia, it really is! Whatever it was, but all the "resonant" crimes in our country have "foreign" names! That is, not Russia "first"! What they are trying to "introduce", for example, the "Kerch massacre", this is from the "crafty"! From the very beginning, the shooting in Kerch was called by the name of the city (town) in the USA, where it first happened! All such cases in Russia are "secondary"! Therefore, you can "vparivat" your "statistical" conclusions to anyone, but to me, it is useless! I have long been "determined"! I am a very impulsive person ... and if there was a law on the right to have a firearm, then I would: 1 have it; 2 have hit something already ... Protesting against the "right to acquire and have a firearm ... ", I care: 1.about myself ...; 2.about my" neighbors "...
            1. Fikys
              Fikys 16 November 2019 16: 55 New
              -1
              From 93 to 00 I served in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, in the regional department, i.e. on the “earth”, he worked for many “household goods” and “orders”, and I am absolutely sure (I have good reason) that most of the “household” and even several “orders” would not exist if citizens had the right to wear a short-barrel, with a corresponding change in judicial practice in cases of self-defense and a change in the law in the field of property protection, of course. In addition, I personally saw how even inveterate corpses disciplines the wearing of service weapons. Having received a "permanent", the young opera tried not to give the authorities the slightest excuse to deprive them of this right.
              And further. You constantly mention the USA, and I consider the example of Moldova, the Baltic states, the Czech Republic, etc. to be more obvious. Citizens got the right to wear a short barrel after the collapse of the USSR, and there was no surge of violence there, on the contrary, the crime rate decreased, and so on everywhere. If you can, give at least one example where, after the legalization of the short-barrel, the crime rate has increased.
  • Qwertyarion
    Qwertyarion 14 November 2019 10: 53 New
    +9
    Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi
    Reading such articles, it somehow becomes uncomfortable.
    Under the Union, this was not.

    There was no Internet under the Union, but there was censorship.
    Do you think that in the Union they could print on the front page of a newspaper like: "Komsomolets shot the students in a college"?
  • Lieutenant Teterin
    Lieutenant Teterin 14 November 2019 11: 42 New
    0
    In the USSR, negative news simply did not go on the air. Yes, and there was no Internet, which dramatically reduced the ability to exchange information. In today's hyper-informational world, a bad example is quickly becoming contagious. And by and large, the fault lies with the parents - it was they who could not raise the child and instill in him a proper attitude to society, conflict and human life. I myself am quite young, and my adolescence was just in time for the development of Internet technologies, but I can say responsibly, in spite of everything neither my friends nor my school classmates have ever thought of shedding blood. To leave after classes as a man one on one to talk with the offender, right up to the fight - yes, it happened more than once. But no more than that - that’s how we were brought up.
  • The popuas
    The popuas 14 November 2019 06: 14 New
    +13
    They wanted to live in the West! Receive bully . Bae. Penalties in Europe, stupid laws from there, and the current population zp cheap. repeat
    1. tracer
      tracer 14 November 2019 06: 48 New
      0
      In Ukraine, Europe has already “come” there with salaries of good buzz ..
      1. Avior
        Avior 14 November 2019 09: 52 New
        +2
        where did you find the “good-to-good”?
        Up to thirty with a squeak falls short and then only recently.
        https://index.minfin.com.ua/labour/salary/average/%D0%A3%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0/
      2. The popuas
        The popuas 15 November 2019 00: 51 New
        0
        I do not live in Ukraine.
  • tracer
    tracer 14 November 2019 06: 19 New
    +18
    This is not westernization. It's dumb virality like catching pokemon. Psychopathic personalities have an imitation syndrome, "this is our everything." And the more and more often tryndet on this topic in the mass media, the more psychopaths will dream of this. What would change about the fact that no one knew about it? Nothing but the fact that young morons would once again not have established themselves in the sweet, sick "rightness" of such acts. The virality of the "shakers" of the regime has the same "pokemon" nature. Do not broadcast from, each "iron" the number of slobbery fighters for all good will sharply decrease. And I do not need to talk about violation of whose about "freedom of speech." But “they have it” ..... For me it is “here”. Any uncomfortable truth about life will be hidden, no one will ever know about it, simply, just “rumors”. There are plenty of examples.
    1. Reserve buildbat
      Reserve buildbat 14 November 2019 06: 33 New
      +13
      The trouble is that the liberot owns these "all irons." And if one of them doesn’t howl at such fried news, the rest will label him in unison “red-headed defender” and will long and nasty scream that the state is silent about the “terrible tragedies” that will be invented right there. Again cries of censorship, etc. etc.
      I read in the social network that it turns out that there was a “powerful explosion” on VIZ! Why are the media silent? The liberalists raged. The photo was posted. And the photo shows cumulus. My friends from VISA laughed. And the "news" was thrown out of another area)))
      So all (almost) "tragedies" are molded. And the liberals on the go talk about the "dead and wounded", about the "victims, to which no one cares." But really - just a cloud hi
      1. tracer
        tracer 14 November 2019 06: 56 New
        +2
        Their nature is the same hype and populism. This is pushing youtube "sewage". In this world, there are hype laws on any protest, news, since it is the protest that causes the most views. So this is a "buzz". Look liberoids youtuber. Everything is like a selection. What are youtubers? Read Damansky's articles on V.O. analyze. The same hype is "Baba Yaga against." Take any good idea or weaponry, well-known, Russian-made and water abundantly with slop. Here is a secret article from Damansky.
        1. Motivatornick
          Motivatornick 14 November 2019 08: 33 New
          +7
          wow wow easy. YouTube is not only sewage. According to it, millions of people study, develop, repair things, listen to audio books, music, watch movies, including educational, as well as lectures. So someone who goes there for sewer knowledge is not a YouTube problem. Hype is not a YouTube video. ... this is a global trend. Hype appeared when the media became too much to offer exclusive content, so the media went along a simple proven path to show violence and any moronic, gay crap, it always attracts most people with an abomination.
          1. tracer
            tracer 14 November 2019 12: 55 New
            0
            I talked about YouTube regarding this topic. Every normal person knows how to use it with profit.
      2. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 14 November 2019 07: 00 New
        +12
        Quote: tracer
        It's dumb virality like catching pokemon.

        Quote: stock buildbat
        The trouble is that the liberot owns these "all irons."

        good
        I support both. I just want to remind one feature that holds back "psychopaths" and "majors", a feature common in the Land of Soviets. If an individual at a young age committed similar (or less severe) socially dangerous acts, his career in work or study, as well as his place of residence, could change for the worse. And girls like Mara Baghdasaryan would never have been able to live in Moscow.
        Therefore, ostentatious bravado and illegal "feats" among young people and, especially, students were not practiced and were not respected. Then, just as it is now, the trend is to flaunt in public and even on YuoTube with base deeds and nasty crimes in the hope of gaining (???) fame. Although, by right, they should receive an adequate misconduct punishment.
        hi
        1. Irokez
          Irokez 14 November 2019 10: 10 New
          +1
          Correctly said.
          Everyone should have confidence in the inevitability of punishment and this should restrain everyone from crime, but if someone rolls and others see it, then they start rolling themselves: - "What if it rolls and I’ll be cool." But sometimes a scythe on a stone finds and it turns out "Cool life - but not long."
  • Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 14 November 2019 06: 21 New
    +8
    Nonsense, dolbik easily owns a firearm, a respectable litter in the trash!
    1. tracer
      tracer 14 November 2019 06: 30 New
      -1
      He most likely stole it from his father. This is a completely different article of the law.
      1. vadson
        vadson 14 November 2019 09: 03 New
        +2
        in Russian spring they write that weapons were registered on him
        https://rusvesna.su/news/1573702290
    2. loki565
      loki565 14 November 2019 08: 56 New
      -6
      where did he get the shotgun ??? as usual took from dad from the safe
  • pru-pavel
    pru-pavel 14 November 2019 06: 28 New
    -24
    Star-striped six-pointed ears clearly stick out here.
    1. Victoria-V
      Victoria-V 14 November 2019 06: 57 New
      +6
      This is a tragedy and such jokes are not appropriate.
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 14 November 2019 06: 38 New
    +4
    Infa scattered. I believe it’s too early to draw any conclusions. request
  • Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 14 November 2019 06: 42 New
    +3
    Mdaaa ... like in that joke where the blind and one-eyed girls went to the "girls" ... "BL @ No.! That's it !, arrived,! ... Hello girls!"
  • samarin1969
    samarin1969 14 November 2019 06: 43 New
    +2
    Much of the consequence is a sense of impunity inspired by young people by the state. Everyone is to blame: officials, social conditions, social workers, imperialism, housing conditions, the wrong format of training ... only not the future Raskolnikov himself. So the second generation of people with a lack of social responsibility has grown.
    Impunity for little things breeds crime.
    1. vadson
      vadson 14 November 2019 09: 05 New
      +4
      what kind of impunity? he shot himself. moreover, his head was in order. he shot selectively - that is, he took revenge. and the firearm was registered on him. that is, what kind of test did he pass when he received a weapon.
  • Vitas
    Vitas 14 November 2019 06: 47 New
    -3
    All this is TV. Especially Russian, why did TNT be included in the package of free digital TV channels?
    What is shown in Germany, the wife was there and watched the local TV, and so, the movie "Die Hard" was cut off, all scenes of violence were cut.
    US example, watch from 10 minutes
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 14 November 2019 07: 37 New
      +1
      I do not know! I was in Germany for almost half a year and didn’t notice the "circumcision" of films. True, I didn’t look at them that much because of the language barrier. All kinds of gears, they kicked in, just like ours.
    2. krokodil25
      krokodil25 14 November 2019 09: 30 New
      0
      [quote = Vitas]
      US example, look
      Helped?
    3. Avior
      Avior 14 November 2019 09: 59 New
      0
      on the roller, the limit for a driver in the States is 0,8 ppm, then they are considered drunk.
      Interestingly, are there at least some scientifically substantiated values ​​of the blood alcohol content at which it is permissible to drive a car? why in different countries this level is different at times?
      1. Qwertyarion
        Qwertyarion 14 November 2019 11: 02 New
        +3
        Quote: Avior
        why in different countries this level is different at times?

        In our country, the emphasis is on catching drivers from a hangover, so the standard has actually been brought to zero. Business however.
  • Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 14 November 2019 07: 01 New
    +2
    To oblige the media to legislate, since they cannot help reporting such things, add to the name of the “shooter” some kind of epithet such as “gn ... a”, “u..dok” for example, and not the “Kerch shooter”.
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 14 November 2019 07: 27 New
    -3
    We must really return the death penalty ... for such comrades.
    1. vadson
      vadson 14 November 2019 09: 06 New
      0
      he returned it to himself
  • rocket757
    rocket757 14 November 2019 07: 36 New
    0
    We must do this, we must do this .... at least learn to live, to control the situation that has developed now!
  • Altai72
    Altai72 14 November 2019 07: 41 New
    0
    [/ quote] student allegedly carried the gun into the college building earlier, hiding it in the toilet [quote]

    Anywhere but not in the toilet. This is hard to believe. And how can one carry a whole gun and hide it there ?! The information is of course superficial. Yes, and there must be some kind of motive. What and who hit him so interestingly ...
  • asv363
    asv363 14 November 2019 07: 45 New
    +1
    https://ria.ru/20191114/1560910507.html
    Two are killed, three are injured. Previously, the cause of what happened is a conflict with peers.
    1. asv363
      asv363 14 November 2019 08: 26 New
      0
      The Ministry of Health of the Amur Region says that one person died, three were injured of varying severity.

      The VO news is correct. The second - the shooter shot himself.
  • senima56
    senima56 14 November 2019 07: 51 New
    -4
    In the "shooter" play enough and confuse reality with the game! It is necessary to find out before the sale of weapons whether the buyer is playing "shooting"? And if yes - refuse to sell! Another question, where did the security look? Did you solve the scanners?
    1. loki565
      loki565 14 November 2019 09: 07 New
      -4
      the gun is most likely not his, but relatives. As for security, now everyone is smart: they don’t have the right to inspect bags without police, etc. etc. so do not count on arming, the maximum will press the panic button.
  • Motivatornick
    Motivatornick 14 November 2019 08: 25 New
    -2
    People grow up in informational violence, often experiencing economic and social problems and insufficient attention from their parents, which ultimately gives such a result.
  • Chaldon48
    Chaldon48 14 November 2019 08: 59 New
    0
    To educate anyone, you need to have well-educated educators. Now there are already many educators who themselves received education during the time of Perestroika.
  • Puzoter
    Puzoter 14 November 2019 10: 19 New
    -4
    I already wrote and will write again: multiply-charged rifles must be sold after five years of ownership, as well as rifled ones.
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 14 November 2019 10: 35 New
      +4
      And at the same time register axes in the licensing department. And only after five years of owning a kitchen knife.
      1. Puzoter
        Puzoter 14 November 2019 10: 39 New
        0
        Psychologically, pulling the trigger is much easier than hitting an ax, especially taking into account the skills gained from computer games. For immature individuals and psychopaths, this will be a deterrent.
  • Vitas
    Vitas 14 November 2019 10: 32 New
    0
    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    I do not know! I was in Germany for almost half a year and didn’t notice the "circumcision" of films. True, I didn’t look at them that much because of the language barrier. All kinds of gears, they kicked in, just like ours.

    Cable or nationwide?
  • Earthshaker
    Earthshaker 14 November 2019 10: 50 New
    +2
    The next news feed is to push through the law on disarmament of the population, the ban on hunting for everyone except deputies. The deputies are not to blame for the fact that they have such an aggressive and illiterate population.
  • Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 14 November 2019 12: 54 New
    +3
    No need to focus exclusively on educators and teachers? Not that age category!
    Apparently, the guy was brought to the handle. They all amicably discuss “injured, unhappy children,” who, by the way, are 18-19 years old, and the fact that these children, according to their friends, are “good, good athletes,” suggests that these children kept the majority in fear college students.
    Such gangs exist in all educational institutions starting from schools and, as a species, find their continuation in the form of hazing in the armed forces!
  • Thompson
    Thompson 15 November 2019 18: 18 New
    -1
    in fact, I don’t understand why we are talking about the consequences here ???
    The reason is always more important !!!
    Here we have to fight with her!
    It was clearly a revenge! He did not shoot everyone in a row, like a Crimean scumbag.
    The teacher was taken out of the office! Shot at specific people!
    One to one as in Blagoveshchensk ... the guy didn’t just press the trigger! And also he shot not everyone in a row!
    And when there is a reason ... there is also an instrument of vengeance ... a knife, an ax. yes anything