Do you need to wait for new arrests at Vostochny?


Akela missed!



They say that Akela missed. He said that at the construction of the Vostochny cosmodrome they continue to steal, despite landing. But it was rightly delicately corrected: you say, dear Akela Vladimirovich, you are right, with the exception of one nuance - theft has a limit, everything is normal at the construction site, key objects will be commissioned in the first quarter of the 2020 of the year (that’s about to happen!), the adversaries are all in prison, our unwavering hand lies on the pulse. The head of Roscosmos himself, Dmitry Rogozin, entered into correspondence controversy with the president, and he knows the question like no other.

What sets the law of the jungle in the case when the leader of the flock misses, we will not voice, and you are strongly forbidden to google. Let's say one thing: the situation smacks of some seditiousness. And the president’s passage itself is no longer so interesting, how curious is the reaction to it from the side ... Yes, from all sides, what is there to stand on ceremony.

For example, I was struck by the evolution of headlines that erupted in our media. If at first it was a “bare statement”, in the spirit of “the president said that thefts were thriving on the construction of the Vostochny cosmodrome,” they soon gave way to formidable “the President expressed indignation at the ongoing lawlessness at the construction of the cosmodrome!” Do you think this all ended? No, headlines appeared in the spirit “The people are dissatisfied with Putin, who cannot stop lawlessness on Vostochny!” And this is very symptomatic: who would believe such a thing five years ago, in the wake of popular love for Vladimir Vladimirovich, raised by the sudden visit of “polite people "to Crimea?

And now it seems that this is in the order of things. And you involuntarily conclude that the Kremlin is just as bad in domestic politics as it is good in foreign policy - you still have to try to lose the support of the population that Putin had.


No wonder planted?


In fact, if we talk about the essence of the issue, then everything is quite transparent: Vladimir Vladimirovich, it seems, really was mistaken. After investigations and landings that took place several years earlier, the situation on Vostochny looks rather calm. Yes, on 2018, inclusively, 1,7 of thousands of different offenses during construction were established, 140 criminal cases were instituted against builders of different levels. More than 10 billion rubles of violations have been identified. 3,5 billion returned to the state. But almost two years have passed since then. And while, as they say, "pah-pah-pah!" ...

Of the largest, most significant cases, one should single out the arrest and the subsequent term for the former head of Dalspetsstroy, Yuri Khrizman, who received, according to a court decision, 12 years of imprisonment and a fine of 1,5 million rubles. Later, on appeal, the court reduced the term by half a year and reduced the amount of the fine by half a million rubles.

The son of Yuri Khrizman, Mikhail, was also prosecuted and received five and a half years in prison, as well as a fine of 800 thousand rubles. True, he did not completely serve his term; in 2018, the Supreme Court abolished his sentence in connection with the expiration of the statute of limitations.

Other main defendants in the case, Vladimir Ashikhmin and Viktor Chudov, were sentenced to seven and six years in prison, respectively.

Of course, there were other major cases, the defendants of which received real terms of imprisonment. In particular, Mikhail Gelman was sentenced to six years and three months in prison for the theft of approximately one 1,1 billion rubles. Also, an inquisitive reader can search the network for information about the affairs of Andrei Yartsev, Anatoly Ryazanov, Viktor Grebnev, Igor Nesterenko and other amateurs to confuse the state pocket with their own.

Oddly enough, this is for modern Russia, the severity and integrity of the investigation and judges have borne fruit: for more than a year now we have not heard about major thefts on Vostochny. Did it mean that Akela really missed?

Does Putin know something?


True, there is another option: Vladimir Vladimirovich knows something that we do not yet know. And if so, soon one should expect new arrests among the builders of the cosmodrome. In favor of this version is the fact that he rarely misses, especially if the situation caused him the highest anger, and in addition, he really does not like to look ridiculous and funny. And since now there is a reason for gnawing and quotes from the cartoon "Mowgli", Vladimir Vladimirovich will probably want to leave the last word for himself.

Therefore, Putin’s correspondence debate with Rogozin will most likely end not with a slap to the latter, but with demonstrative arrests of those who continue to steal on Vostochny. And this will probably be the best answer to the jokes: the jokers will calm down, and the looters will get another lesson.

In conclusion, I would like to say that the informational reason that became the reason for writing this article is actually not so interesting. Without exaggeration - from what we now know with confidence about the state of affairs on Vostochny, it is impossible to draw any conclusions about the theft that continues there, which means that it remains to discuss only the awkwardness of the president. Yes, this is also a legitimate reason for interest - such a position, every word will be examined and analyzed from all sides. But, frankly, the attempts by various media outlets to reanimate the old criminal cases and make some conclusions about the ongoing thefts seem rather pathetic.

Therefore, let's ask Vladimir Vladimirovich, saying “a”, say “b” already: who steals, how much, when will he be arrested? Without this, the situation is reminiscent of some kind of vaudeville, in which the first persons of the state somehow did not play.

So if you please, Vladimir Vladimirovich. Waiting for ...
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  1. Ross xnumx 14 November 2019 05: 15 New
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    While Rogozin will be in Moscow and Vostochny is being built in the Far East, theft will continue and there will be no one to ask.
    True, there is another option: Vladimir Vladimirovich knows something that we do not yet know.

    Judging by the latest demonstrations, Putin can only know one thing, that the liberal model of feudal oligarchic speculative capitalism, which has conquered almost 30 years of the vastness of Russia under the leadership of Edra in various forms, has been defeated.
    PS LIB also knew a lot of things, but remembered badly - age.
    1. Uncle lee 14 November 2019 06: 11 New
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      "Over 140 criminal cases have been opened, the theft of 10 billion rubles has been officially recognized," they write on a nearby branch ....
      1. Ross xnumx 14 November 2019 06: 29 New
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        You perfectly understand what meaning I put in my message. So, as Rogozin builds, you can build as long as you like, initiating dozens of criminal cases and analyzing schemes for misuse of funds from the budget. You can recall in what terms the enterprises (during the Second World War) from the west of the country were transferred to the Urals, Kazakhstan and Siberia, and where at that time the heads of enterprises and ministers were located, and who was responsible for the timing.
        The country should work not for the interests of crooks and thieves, but for the development of its own economy, science and production. And, if some people sometimes can’t honestly work with us (they don’t want, they don’t know how), then why on earth is this statistic from journalism? Tell tales about the flights of the "Angara" and scare the "mattresses" with a trampoline?
        1. Barmaleyka 14 November 2019 07: 12 New
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          Quote: ROSS 42
          So, how Rogozin builds

          how else can a journalist build?
          1. astepanov 14 November 2019 11: 06 New
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            Quote: Barmaleyka
            how else can a journalist build?

            Well, you, my friend, he is also a diplomat, and a philosopher, and a doctor of technical sciences, and a general — who else needs to build cosmodromes? As the baskets, and the shvets, and the reaper, and on the pipe, the player is absolutely indispensable. He stops the galloping horse, enters the burning hut. Where to Sergei Palych Korolev before him - not to mention all sorts of Devils, Glushko, Chelomeev and others. Eagle!
            1. Barmaleyka 14 November 2019 12: 28 New
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              and when did he get the general ?! belay
            2. Ingvar 72 14 November 2019 17: 18 New
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              Stalin was a seminarian and raider. I mean, no matter who the person was before, the main thing is his true motives and goals.
            3. Petrograd 15 November 2019 01: 20 New
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              Quote: astepanov
              Well, you, my friend, he is also a diplomat, and a philosopher, and a doctor of technical sciences, and a general — who else needs to build cosmodromes? As the baskets, and the shvets, and the reaper, and on the pipe, the player is absolutely indispensable. He stops the galloping horse, enters the burning hut. Where to Sergei Palych Korolev before him - not to mention all sorts of Devils, Glushko, Chelomeev and others. Eagle!

              "bitter" sarcasm ... All sorts (as you said good ) Build, Thought, Achieved and Won. From this "eagle", we are waiting for the US to fly into space on a trampoline ...
              I want to find out from "Mr." Rogozzin how "Angara" is doing there ??? Another tale?
          2. den3080 14 November 2019 14: 29 New
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            Quote: Barmaleyka
            Quote: ROSS 42
            So, how Rogozin builds

            how else can a journalist build?

            in the article I liked the thought of vaudeville. Hello.
        2. Svarog 14 November 2019 08: 36 New
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          Quote: ROSS 42
          The country should work not for the interests of crooks and thieves, but for the development of its own economy, science and production. And, if some people sometimes can’t honestly work with us (they don’t want, they don’t know how)

          Fat, well-fed cats that have been stealing for the past 20 years will never be able to honestly work for the good of the country .. Concrete cleaning is needed .. not even cleaning, but a change in the whole composition of everyone and everything ..
          1. astepanov 14 November 2019 11: 16 New
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            Quote: Svarog
            Concrete cleaning is needed .. not even cleaning, but a change in the full complement of everyone and everything ..

            For whom, let me ask? Education in the country to hell, there is almost no experience in complex industries - due to the absence of such industries, nepotism has sprouted - and managers will be appointed from among the same relatives, acquaintances, brothers, sisters, accomplices.
            Here are recent examples for you: Colonels Zakharchenko and Chekalin, who allegedly stole tens of billions. It’s clear to Kose that miserable regiments could not act for years without a mighty roof. But the investigation about this "roof" did not even stutter. And roofs, as you know, do not exist below: only above.
          2. Alexander Suvorov 14 November 2019 11: 22 New
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            Svarog (Vladimir)
            Fat, well-fed cats that have been stealing for the past 20 years will never be able to honestly work for the good of the country .. Concrete cleaning is needed .. not even cleaning, but a change in the whole composition of everyone and everything ..
            With the existing system, the change of everyone and everything will lead to the fact that some thieves will be exchanged for other thieves, who will begin to steal with tripled strength. So the change will not give anything.
            It is necessary to change the existing system itself! The system is initially rotten. Otherwise, collapse.
          3. Far East 14 November 2019 12: 25 New
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            that's right! her, only to the wall! and broadcast! Yes, here I am, bloodthirsty! come right now ......... Marshal, tell!
          4. New Year day 14 November 2019 17: 02 New
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            Quote: Svarog
            Concrete cleaning is needed ... not even cleaning ...

            ... stripping. That's just no cleaners
            1. Ingvar 72 14 November 2019 17: 20 New
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              I’m already mentally ready to work as an executioner.
              1. Svarog 14 November 2019 20: 49 New
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                Quote: Ingvar 72
                I’m already mentally ready to work as an executioner.

                I think the line is long .. there are a lot of people wishing ..
              2. Petrograd 15 November 2019 01: 24 New
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                I’m already mentally ready to work as an executioner.

                Already not only morally, but also "point blank" ready ...
      2. Stas157 14 November 2019 08: 31 New
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        Quote: Uncle Lee
        "Over 140 criminal cases opened, theft officially recognized 10 billion rubles "- they write on the next branch ....

        Is the size of the punishment comparable to the size of the theft?
        . Yuri Khrizman, who received 12 years of imprisonment and a fine in 1,5 million rubles.

        . Mikhail was also brought to trial and received five and a half years in prison, as well as a fine of 800 thousand rubles. True, he did not completely serve his term

        For them, the size of the fine, which for an ordinary person to buy boxes of matches. And no one has served his term to the end.
        1. Fan-fan 15 November 2019 18: 41 New
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          I also noticed that thieves got off easily.
          Mikhail Gelman was sentenced to six years and three months in prison for the theft of approximately one 1,1 billion rubles.

          I would love to steal a billion and one hundred million and sit down for 6 years, Lafa, sit in jail, and money is waiting when I get out, and now I have to go to work for a penny. But then I would live happily, it turns out - I'm in prison, and I have 180 million a year in fat.
          Yes, damn it, someone will rob a stall, and someone will steal a billion, and sit the same way and how after that to relate to power - yes they went in three letters.
      3. snake 14 November 2019 09: 51 New
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        Quote: Uncle Lee
        Theft of 10 billion rubles recognized

        3,5 billion were returned to the state.

        Interesting ... Ah ... ahem ... 6.5 billion ... sorry, where? Bye bye So what do these thieves have “miserable” fines of 1.5 million?
        They built Baikonur in 2 years. East began in 2011 ...
      4. bandabas 14 November 2019 20: 21 New
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        This is only official. And how much really. We are waiting for when we get to unsinkable dimycha. If you do not have time to fade to the rotten West.
    2. Civil 14 November 2019 07: 08 New
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      Who would tell the GDP that something has rotted everywhere, they steal like the last time, especially in the housing and communal services.
      1. Mestny 14 November 2019 08: 45 New
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        This is a common thing with us. They always stole like the last time, and no executions stopped.
        1. Manas manas 14 November 2019 12: 08 New
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          Something went wrong!!!!
        2. Ingvar 72 14 November 2019 17: 22 New
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          Come on? belay And estimate how many would steal in China, if there were no towers?
      2. snake 14 November 2019 10: 02 New
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        Quote: Civil
        Who would suggest GDP

        Poor, kind Tsar ... Evil boyars hide from the guardian of the land the Russian sad life of ordinary people. Here, if the brightest had known about the troubles and aspirations of people - in a moment he would have punished the evil lads ...
        In vain you, Fedya, for me
        My people are my relatives.
        I'm without thoughts about the people
        I can’t live a day! ..
        (C)
        1. Manas manas 14 November 2019 12: 08 New
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          You are lying! It can’t be so in the Orthodox Orthodox Russia! This is America's lack of spirituality and a cut budget! Ilona Masks are all sorts of scammers who saw the state budget and do not create anything! But in Russia, all officials and Rogozin only think about how to raise a country from their knees without sparing their stomach!
          1. mikh-korsakov 15 November 2019 17: 19 New
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            Manas! Well, about the abdomen - it's you in vain - the belly just in Rogozin well-groomed.
      3. 210ox 14 November 2019 11: 07 New
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        And then he does not know! It’s just a choice of another goal, but so that it wouldn’t shy away from a boomerang.
      4. AUL
        AUL 16 November 2019 08: 33 New
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        Quote: Civil
        Who would tell the GDP that something has rotted everywhere, they steal like the last time, especially in the housing and communal services.

        Yes, it's time to tell! And then he, our irreplaceable one, does not even know about it, either in sleep or in spirit! And the boyars around deceive him all!
    3. Barmaleyka 14 November 2019 07: 12 New
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      Quote: ROSS 42
      While Rogozin will be in Moscow and Vostochny is being built in the Far East, theft will continue and there will be no one to ask.

      Do you think that Rogozin should sit in Lefortovo ?! repeat
      1. Ross xnumx 14 November 2019 07: 19 New
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        Quote: Barmaleyka
        Do you think that Rogozin should sit in Lefortovo ?!

        Judging by the achievements of himself and his “child prodigy” son, their place is definitely not in the chair of the General Director of the State Corporation for Space Activities “Roskosmos” and not in the chair of the General Director of the SV Ilyushin Aviation Complex ... The country will benefit more from their absence .
        1. rocket757 14 November 2019 07: 47 New
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          While Rogozin will be in Moscow,

          But whoever was sitting there, the system is vicious, will exist and prosper!
          From shuffling the “deck” nothing changes, because most of the cards there are “speckled”.
          At the top of the question, “What to do” is not asked, but below is .... the Brownian movement with no visible prospects!
          1. Mestny 14 November 2019 08: 47 New
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            Yes, below you have one whining on the Internet. That is, as in the USSR, the notorious in kitchens and smoking rooms.
            Offer specifically - people, programs. And the people will reach for you. The truth is only if it will be sensible people and reasonable programs, and not rally populism in the style of taking everything away and handing it out to everyone.
            1. rocket757 14 November 2019 09: 02 New
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              Quote: Mestny
              Offer specifically - people, programs.

              You need to know or just believe someone!
              There are those who say what I, for example, would like to hear and accept .... everyone has their own preferences, desires.
              Everything is mainly in words, but some real things are trying to do.
              It turns out that everyone should choose for himself.
              In fact, you still have to unite around some kind of idea, a particular person or group.
              Anyway, everyone chooses for himself.
            2. Karabin 14 November 2019 17: 44 New
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              Quote: Mestny
              Offer specifically - people, programs.

              I suggest.
              Program: The new feudal system, along with Putin-bear-Rogozin-in the furnace. The faster the better. Otherwise, we lose the country.
              People: Those who will replace the liquidators of the new feudal system.
              Quote: Mestny
              take everything away and give it to everyone.

              Isn’t it right now? Select in the form of taxes, excise taxes, levies from the majority and distribute it to the kings of the state order, “eastern” thieves and other “socially responsible businessmen”.
              1. Svarog 14 November 2019 20: 55 New
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                Quote: Karabin
                I suggest.
                Program: The new feudal system, along with Putin-bear-Rogozin-in the furnace. The faster the better. Otherwise, we lose the country.

                I support. Effective offer. good
            3. mikh-korsakov 15 November 2019 17: 27 New
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              Sergei "take everything away and give it to everyone." What do you want? "Offer people programs" - expect from the people - Manilovism. A party is needed to change the system, and a leader must be in the party. But I don’t see either one or the other. When I look at what remains of the famous factory founded by Peter the first in our town, I imagine that somewhere in the surrounding forests Lenin sits and writes, writes.
          2. Ross xnumx 14 November 2019 09: 21 New
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            Quote: rocket757
            But whoever was sitting there, the system is vicious, will exist and prosper!

            You know, I’ll make you my own assumption, why the king and the boyars are less in the fashion of more helpful mediocrity, and you decide for yourself whether this or that is wrong.
            Remember the Beriev "checkers"? Then, to create breakthrough structures and implement ideas, it was practiced that the chosen leader was given a task for which he could answer with his head. And for successful work, this leader recruited a team of like-minded people. Thus, Andrey Nikolaevich Tupolev and Sergey Pavlovich Korolev met in one place. There is information about other “big-headed” designers who pulled their students and people who were just acquaintances from work out of prisons and gulag zones in order to create them in order to complete the task on time.
            What threatens people with governing the country and deciding the fate of people with very dubious results? Yes, as the comfortable existence of the HMS and its foundation, the family of EBN and the same DAM show, is nothing but a secure life, special services, security and a calm old age. But who will "plant them" - they are like monuments, like ... "EBN Center". Imagine that everyone would have to report to the voters (to whom and before the court) for their “successes” by a certain date — they would start recruiting people in the team who a priori had no life and work BEFORE !!! no meaningful results other than folding verbiage?
            So it seems to me that the stimulation of our "creators of history" should be more motivated. And the person responsible for the construction of the cosmodrome should be able to say:
            "Yes, I set up these spaceports around the world ..."
            Remember the American movie Apocalypse? Let the politicized fiction, BUT !!! Even there they took whom to drill an asteroid? Not the guy from the street, but the deep drilling master Bruce Willis, who took with him a team of his own workers, whom he knew ...
            hi
            1. rocket757 14 November 2019 09: 42 New
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              so is it or am I mistaken.

              It is possible to discuss various management systems for everything and everything for a long time, but two identical opinions cannot be found.
              Let's remember, know, all the methods, but we can apply, at the moment, only those that are acceptable at a given time. There is an established system that no one will voluntarily change!
              And then a simple question, what to do? Which also has many answers, but you have to choose for yourself.
              1. Ross xnumx 14 November 2019 09: 51 New
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                Quote: rocket757
                And then a simple question, what to do?

                To begin with, you can start squeezing a slave out of yourself, and then, perhaps, the moment will come:
                and how he, waking up one fine morning, feels that in his veins is no longer slave blood, but real human ...

                hi
                1. rocket757 14 November 2019 10: 17 New
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                  Quote: ROSS 42
                  To begin with, you can start squeezing a slave out of yourself, and then, perhaps, the moment will come:

                  Question ... personal perception, self-esteem. There will definitely be more than one opinion!
                  By the way, when we create a community of like-minded people CONSCIOUSLY, slave psychology didn’t stand by it ... even those who are used to following it disappear.
                  The main thing is that this should happen consciously, and not on a principle like everyone else.
            2. Ingvar 72 14 November 2019 17: 24 New
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              Apocalypse"?

              Armageddon. wink
              1. Ross xnumx 14 November 2019 17: 59 New
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                Quote: Ingvar 72
                Quote: ROSS 42
                Apocalypse"?

                Armageddon. wink

                Your truth ... Stamped ...
            3. Svarog 14 November 2019 21: 00 New
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              Quote: ROSS 42
              Remember the Beriev "checkers"? Then, to create breakthrough designs and implement ideas, it was practiced that the selected leader was given a task for which he could answer with his head.

              That's it, and now they’re picking up their own / someone else’s principle .. and the task, without fail, includes cutting .. despite the fact that no one bears responsibility, and if they need absolution, they will find .. the people will be shown with pathos .. hi
      2. Svarog 14 November 2019 08: 38 New
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        Quote: Barmaleyka
        Do you think that Rogozin should sit in Lefortovo ?!

        Where he should sit, let the court decide on the basis of the audit. But the fact that he is clearly out of place, I think, is not even subject to discussion.
    4. Nestorych 14 November 2019 11: 41 New
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      While Putin will sit in the Kremlin, all sorts of Rogozin is only a consequence!)))
      1. Karabin 14 November 2019 17: 46 New
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        Quote: Nestorych
        Rogozin is only a consequence!)

        Putin himself is only a consequence.
        1. Fan-fan 15 November 2019 18: 49 New
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          Do you really believe that someone is turning Putin around?
          Tell me then who? Trump? Massons? Or maybe Chubais?
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  2. jonht 14 November 2019 05: 43 New
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    So it seems to be a question not only of the spaceport itself, but also of the rocket to it. It seems that all of this was considered as a complex. And landing tops in Omsk and breaking the contract for Angora, all in one chain. hi
    And so I understand the situation. hi
    1. Ross xnumx 14 November 2019 06: 33 New
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      Quote: jonht
      And so I understand the situation.

      I understand the situation that you were interested in Angora cats? lol
      Here the question is not even in the Angara, but in the fulfillment of the planned work, the declared readiness of the cosmodrome and missile launches, which are announced in the plan ...
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        In general, everything is so. "East" was planned under the "Angora", and then all the latest "space" news about them. hi
  3. Tank jacket 14 November 2019 05: 53 New
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    "Elite" was brought up in the 90s, their dreams are to plunder and over the hill. They do not understand that they are in the west, like a birch is hung by a scarf. It is necessary for social elevators to work and honest and competent managers to come. The confiscation of all property will soon be returned ...
    1. Far B 14 November 2019 06: 10 New
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      The confiscation of all property will soon be returned ...
      Freshly legend ... The raven will not peck out the raven's eye.
      1. Tank jacket 14 November 2019 06: 15 New
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        The Constitutional Court of Russia recognized the legality of the norm on confiscation of property not only among officials and their relatives, but also with friends or acquaintances of the accused.
        1. New Year day 14 November 2019 07: 05 New
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          Quote: Tank jacket
          The Constitutional Court of Russia recognized the legality of the norm on confiscation of property not only among officials and their relatives, but also with friends or acquaintances of the accused.

          it remains only to see the implementation of the recognized ...
    2. The popuas 14 November 2019 06: 11 New
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      The Constitutional Court has already decided this issue, there will be a confiscation of the bribe-takers themselves and their relatives ... hi will see winked
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        And friends too ...
        1. The popuas 14 November 2019 06: 15 New
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          I don’t know about friends, they’ll rather pinch partners, a friend is a friend, if they’re unlikely to be tied up by business. request
          1. Tank jacket 14 November 2019 06: 17 New
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            The decision on "friends of bribe takers" was made during the consideration of the complaint of ex-colonel of the Ministry of Internal Affairs Dmitry Zakharchenko, convicted of bribery, as well as his parents, sisters and former cohabitants.

            Protection of the security official stated that the seizure of property worth 9 billion rubles from friends, mother and father of Zakharchenko was illegal, since the Prosecutor General’s Office of the Russian Federation did not provide direct evidence that the property was bought for the illegal income of the former security officer. However, the court indicated that the confiscation of property “refers to special legal measures”, is aimed at combating corruption and protecting “constitutionally significant values” and therefore decided on the legality of confiscation. laughing
    3. Ross xnumx 14 November 2019 06: 34 New
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      Quote: Tank jacket
      The confiscation of all property will soon be returned ...

      Already announced ... Relatives of the colonel-billionaire already felt ...
      1. Tank jacket 14 November 2019 06: 45 New
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        hi I'm sorry, I had to write returned good
    4. Karabin 14 November 2019 17: 54 New
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      It is necessary for social elevators to work and honest and competent managers to come.

      And why are they not working for GDP? The State Department is probably to blame wink
      1. Tank jacket 14 November 2019 18: 03 New
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        The answer to your question will be very long ... Yes, and I doubt that you are interested in the answer hi
        1. Karabin 14 November 2019 18: 05 New
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          The answer to your question is very long.

          The same as the presidential term of GDP?
          1. Tank jacket 14 November 2019 18: 28 New
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            Even longer, from the assassination of Stalin until 1991.
  4. Far B 14 November 2019 05: 53 New
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    Didn't Akela miss the mark? For example, with your appointees?
    The Kremlin is as bad in domestic politics as it is in foreign
    I am embarrassed to ask, and successes in foreign policy - where are they?
    Vladimir Vladimirovich knows something that we do not yet know
    I suspect that I really know. For example, about those who will soon take a seat, because someone didn’t bring someone there on time.
    he really does not like to look ridiculous and funny.
    Oh oh To get the nickname "Unbecoming" from the people is far more ridiculous and funnier. Even Crab sounded somehow more brutal.
    the attempts by various media outlets to reanimate the old criminal cases and draw some conclusions about the ongoing thefts look rather pathetic now.
    Here, rather, it’s not an attempt to reanimate, but a legitimate bewilderment — why haven’t it been handed out “to all sisters' earrings”? The same Kozhemyako, during which, when he was governor of Amurka, the construction of the East began (and, accordingly, theft), he still goes to the "great statesmen" at the suggestion of Putin.
    key objects will be commissioned in the first quarter of 2020 (that is, already about!)
    Believe, hope, wait!
    So if you please, Vladimir Vladimirovich.
    Yeah, shchazz.
    In general, our law enforcement practice is as follows:
    The son of Yuri Khrizman, Mikhail, was also prosecuted and received five and a half years in prison, as well as a fine of 800 thousand rubles. True, he did not completely serve his term; in 2018, the Supreme Court abolished his sentence in connection with the expiration of the statute of limitations.
    Because we are the most humane state in the world. And to hang corrupt officials and thieves of state property - "these are not our methods" (c).
    1. New Year day 14 November 2019 07: 06 New
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      Quote: Far In
      Didn't Akela miss the mark? For example, with your appointees?

      1. d.olegov44 14 November 2019 13: 54 New
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        Quote: Far In
        Didn't Akela miss the mark? For example, with your appointees?



        Here it is necessary to swap replicas.
    2. Van 16 14 November 2019 07: 30 New
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      Unfortunately, Vladimir Vladimirovich speaks too much and does too little, and at the same time it seems that everything is ridiculous and funnier. And even surpassing “please treat this with understanding” is difficult, but it seems he is striving for this.
      1. GRIGORIY76 14 November 2019 09: 26 New
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        Recently, he has been carrying some kind of "game", now about medical "construction teams", now he wants to build a medical state corporation ... not that grandfather, not that ...
        But foreign policy ... uhh, how frisky
        1. Fan-fan 15 November 2019 18: 57 New
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          Yes, the successes are "great", especially in Ukraine, and in Belarus.
  5. Dmitry Potapov 14 November 2019 06: 16 New
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    The worst thing is that after all these air shocks, nothing will change radically! Only an event can change the situation, the anniversary of which we (at least I) recently celebrated, an event that the authorities are trying to present with coup, and until we start living according to the slogans and laws of that event, nothing will ever Change !!! Thieves and mediocre people are kept, and finances are stolen, and the rest includes raising the retirement age, optimization, reduction, and simply refusing to finance.
  6. parusnik 14 November 2019 07: 02 New
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    I don’t understand one thing, and what can’t you not steal? .. It turns out that it is a national idea and patriotism to steal on the construction of a strategic state object ... It’s enough to whine, let's work? laughing
    1. New Year day 14 November 2019 07: 08 New
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      . It turns out to steal on the construction of a strategic state object, this is a national idea and patriotism ...

      so it has long been known
    2. Ross xnumx 14 November 2019 07: 25 New
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      Like stop whining, let's work?

      It is these words that have recently begun to outrage an increasing number of people who want to work for the good of the country and not in the thieves pocket.
      I even know personally people who simply cannot steal just like that ... And those who did not steal until there was an opportunity, but as soon as it appeared ... In short, if you want to recognize a person, make him your boss. lol
    3. The leader of the Redskins 14 November 2019 08: 09 New
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      As a civil engineer, I will answer you. Can! You can not steal. And there have been cases. But our psychology is such that how to resist when it’s here! ... Almost no one’s and is free for you ?! You’ll be walking down the street, and there’s a bill on the asphalt. And you understand that most likely that citizen has fallen. And you can call out a citizen and point out the loss, or you can silently pick it up and put it in your pocket. And you go further, figure out what to spend ....
    4. VeteranVSSSR 14 November 2019 10: 04 New
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      Someone from our members of the forum previously wrote:
      - all are stealing around, but there’s nobody to plant, because all friends...
  7. Obi-Wan Kenobi 14 November 2019 07: 06 New
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    Therefore, let's ask Vladimir Vladimirovich, saying “a”, say “b” already: who steals, how much, when will he be arrested?

    I strongly doubt all of this. Serdyukov is a good example.
    There is such an expression:
    Steal wagons, but legalize and never sit down. What do these officials do regularly.
    And they’ll put some Vaska foreman, who isn’t sleepy about the stolen billions.
    1. bairat 14 November 2019 09: 15 New
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      It's like that. And I’m afraid most of the cases are brought up against honest Vasek for some kind of improperly designed Kamaz sand, and the verdict will already be “theft by a group of persons by prior conspiracy”.
  8. The leader of the Redskins 14 November 2019 08: 04 New
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    So if you please, Vladimir Vladimirovich. Waiting for ...
    Boldly, boldly ... Interestingly, did the author write the same letter to the AP’s reception office, or does he display courage only on virtual pages?
  9. Private89 14 November 2019 08: 08 New
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    If the rotten basis (and since the 91st it is), then the add-in is all to hell!

    A thief, as a well-known person said, should be in prison. And it doesn’t matter whether you are an ordinary thief or a thief from politics.

    But all the problems of the country, from theft in the East, pension reform, credit slavery, and ending with an ever-increasing increase in poverty and exploitation of the country's population, are not solved within the framework of this system - capitalism, since all the phenomena that are indicated above are its obligatory attributes.

    We need to be treated for capitalism and the treatment is familiar to us - the Sickle and the Hammer.
    1. Fan-fan 15 November 2019 19: 03 New
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      To these hells with a sickle in the balls, and with a hammer in the head - only in this way we will get rid of capitalism.
  10. AleBors 14 November 2019 09: 55 New
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    All these things and landings look ridiculous. He stole a billion, but a fine in a million? The term is 12 years? I am sure that in a couple of years quietly amnesty or will be released on parole. Theft of public funds should be considered an act of sabotage and deliberate wrecking. Accordingly, life-long (or rather execution) and confiscation of everything and everything. Then it will be effective.
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  12. svp67 14 November 2019 11: 55 New
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    Take it from the control of Roskosmos and give it to the military. Shoigu will find ways to put things in order ...
    1. Karabin 14 November 2019 18: 10 New
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      Shoigu will find ways to put things in order ...

      Did Shoigu from another planet get into Putin's Politburo?
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        Did Shoigu from another planet get into Putin's Politburo?

        No, he is from this planet. But he has repeatedly proved that he is able to restore order, not in words, but in deed. And the "Politburo" is somewhat different.
        1. Fan-fan 15 November 2019 19: 05 New
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          And with what and where did he prove and put things in order? Yes, he’s from the same cage as the whole environment is untouchable, I’ll even say more - he is one of the founders of the Edro party.
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            And with what and where did he prove and put things in order?

            He created and made the whole ministry work normally. More or less put things in order in the Ministry of Defense
            Quote: Fan-Fan
            I’ll even say more - he is one of the founders of the Edro party.

            Thank you for reminding me. Here is another work of his brainchild
            Quote: Fan-Fan
            Yes, he is from the same clip as the whole environment nepriyamysha

            And what about the president of Kazakhstan, can you say so?
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    As citizen Yuri Koptev once said, being the head of Roscosmos: “There is state money and they have not been stolen. This is some kind of nonsense!”
    In my opinion, there is nothing more to add.
  14. Karabin 14 November 2019 17: 59 New
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    The Kremlin is as bad in domestic politics as it is in foreign

    The Kremlin’s success on the “near approaches” is particularly impressive. RF in the ring of friends laughing
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      Yeah. Simply breathtaking success, even against the background of its predecessors!
  15. yfast 14 November 2019 18: 25 New
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    They stole 10 billion, returned 3.5 billion, the rest either drank, or the banknote was blown away. Or stole elusive hackers? For 1.1 billion to get 6 years, go out in 4, many would give their hand, left.
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    one recently proved to me, it’s not his fault, it’s recently working
  17. ochakow703 15 November 2019 03: 52 New
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    Do you think that Rogozin should sit in Lefortovo ?!

    No. I believe that both Rogozins should pick ore with a pickax somewhere in Kolyma!
  18. Mikhail3 15 November 2019 09: 10 New
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    What is there to know? From 60% of any federal order immediately goes inside the Garden Ring. When builders are planted, they dutifully (and silently) sit down, because if you blurt out something, you will immediately die from "natural causes." Enough kondrashka. But this state of affairs is the only and unique way to get a big contract. There are no other ways, and it does not seem that they will appear in the foreseeable future.
    Apparently the GDP, despite the close work with it, began to suspect that its "authorized 2%" is a ridiculous fiction for all its subordinates. It is possible that he will try to pinch some of those who take away most of the money from federal contracts. But nothing will come of it ...
    This system cannot be corrected. It is basically not correctable. It can only be broken, and I personally don’t believe in such a level of determination.
  19. 1536 15 November 2019 13: 58 New
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    There is Soviet experience: in the penal system, special camps were created to carry out national economic plans, and everything begins to be built in flight, on time, and completely free of charge. What is needed to turn a civilian spaceport into a correctional labor institution - just enclose its territory with barbed wire and put up towers with machine gunners every 100-150 meters and dogs. To do this, we still have many good specialists, and of course, this is less in cost than 100 million per day. Although ... Maybe well, this cosmodrome? Some losses from him. Do not take us an example from the Chinese, in fact. What is Mars, Zin? And the American government is directly deceiving its people, talking about the organization on the moon of the American base, where all unemployed America can fly to serve. Do we need it?
    1. Mikhail3 16 November 2019 16: 45 New
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      There are tens of thousands of shift workers, most of whom have not already been paid two or three shifts. Shift workers from all over the country, and they are desperate. Just move, genius. You’ll dream that the “dog” bite you bite ...
  20. syndicalist 19 November 2019 08: 55 New
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    Under the current system, any fight against corruption only leads to more corruption, because as a result of this fight, a stronger corruption clan wins a weak one.
  21. Fevralsk. Morev 20 November 2019 13: 19 New
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    that the liberal model of feudal oligarchic speculative capitalism, conquering almost 30 years of the vastness of Russia under the leadership of "Edra" in various forms, was defeated.

    Yes, there is not any liberalism !!!!!!! The usual comprador regime with elements of klepto and plutocracy. Liberalism is freedom, but what do we have, freedom?