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The Russian army began to receive modernized complexes "Zoo"

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The Russian army began to receive modernized complexes "Zoo"

The Russian armed forces began to receive the first kits of the updated Zoo radar system. The upgraded complex is guaranteed to detect the launch sites of not only regular ammunition, but also improvised missiles and mines. The modernization took into account the combat experience gained in Syria.


The modernized complex "Zoo" began to enter service with the units of the Russian army. According to the Russian military, by the end of the year counter-battery radars will go into service with the 19 and 42 divisions of the Southern Military District, as well as the motorized rifle brigade of the Central Military District.

The Zoo counter-battery radar is intended for reconnaissance of enemy firepower positions and adjustment of fire by detecting enemy ammunition after a shot and calculating the trajectory. The modernized complex allows you to determine the coordinates of all fire weapons even with massive shelling and give distributed target designations. In addition, won automatically can adjust artillery firing, while monitoring the air situation and track drones.

The modernized Zoo processes about seventy goals per minute and simultaneously accompanies more than ten objects. To automatically calculate the full trajectory of an enemy’s ammunition with the definition of a launch point and a point of impact, no more than 15 – 20 seconds are required. The detection range of operational-tactical missiles in the upgraded version is up to 40 km, and rockets up to 20. When the enemy uses mortars, it is possible to determine the firing position at ranges above 20 km.

For some time, the Zoo did not enter the army due to the lack of funding for its purchase, and this significantly reduced the ability of artillery. This is a good complex, even its first modifications have established themselves as an effective tool, capable of guaranteed to detect enemy artillery and issue target designations for their destruction

- lead "News" words of the former commander of the 58 Army Viktor Sobolev.
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  1. Klingon
    Klingon 13 November 2019 13: 15
    +16
    excellent, you need to give a couple of LDNR good
    1. Vitalii21
      Vitalii21 13 November 2019 13: 38
      +2
      there is a wearable "zoo"!
    2. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 13 November 2019 13: 51
      +6
      Quote: Klingon
      need to give a couple of LDNR

      Or maybe you were late with your wish ... what Relatively recently, the Armed Forces of Ukraine disseminated a message that their drones "took a picture" of the "Zoo" on the territory ... (but I don't remember which republic ...), and even attached "photos" ... yes
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  2. bessmertniy
    bessmertniy 13 November 2019 13: 19
    +1
    That's what the "Zoo" is for, to detect any "animal" or "bird". Nice characteristics.
    1. svp67
      svp67 13 November 2019 13: 34
      +3
      Quote: bessmertniy
      That's what the "Zoo" is for, to spot any "animal" or "bird".

      Yes, in a cage and on display ...
  3. Obi-Wan Kenobi
    Obi-Wan Kenobi 13 November 2019 13: 24
    -9
    The counter-battery radar "Zoo" is intended for reconnaissance of the positions of enemy fire weapons and for adjusting the fire by detecting enemy ammunition after a shot and calculating the trajectory.

    I have no doubt that the radar is beautiful and perfectly copes with its task.
    But ... Who calls such devices "ZOO"? Either they will call Buratina, or Derivation, or Tosochka (what kind of word is that?)
    Maybe they choose the name of the tender? By the principle - the more wonderful and absurd, the better?
    Link to article IN:
    https://topwar.ru/13180-nesereznye-nazvaniya-sereznogo-oruzhiya.html
    Excerpt from there:
    ... the RPMK-1 radio-direction-finding meteorological complex is called "Smile", the thermobaric warhead 9M216 - "Excitement", the 240-mm missile projectile MS-24 with the chemical warhead - "Laska", the 122-mm missile projectile 9M22K with the warhead cluster - "Ornament ". Special mention should be made of the UAZ-3150 “Shalun” car, the MR-352 “Positive” ship radar and the “Hi” 23mm rubber bullet. The “Vest” body armor, the “Variant” grenade launcher, the “Excite” playful infantry shoulder blade, the “Tenderness” handcuffs, and the Ecstasy multiple-action light-and-noise grenade ...
    ... today the Russian army has at its disposal an armored personnel carrier BTR-80A "Violence" and a heavy TRS station R-410M "Diagnosis". In addition, there is a special medical vehicle for the BMM-1D Traumatism airborne troops and the 65s941 Tonus software and hardware complex ...
    ... The 30A 9A-4071 automatic cannon is called the Ballerina, and the autonomous integrated secondary air traffic control and state recognition radar is called the Stewardess ...

    It is interesting that they smoke when they choose the name ?!
    1. Ravil_Asnafovich
      Ravil_Asnafovich 13 November 2019 13: 35
      +5
      The name of the weapon predetermines the policy. We are for peace, remember from the time of the Second World War, even small arms were called affectionately, SVT-Svetka, Pps-Papa, and so on.
    2. Invoce
      Invoce 13 November 2019 13: 36
      +4
      I have no doubt that the radar is beautiful and perfectly copes with its task.
      But ... Who calls such devices "ZOO"? Either they will call Buratina, or Derivation, or Tosochka (what kind of word is that?)
      Maybe they choose the name of the tender? By the principle - the more wonderful and absurd, the better?

      What claims to the name? The fact that someone does not like? Can then hold a referendum? or how to appoint a collegium of approvers in the US?
      1. Obi-Wan Kenobi
        Obi-Wan Kenobi 13 November 2019 14: 04
        -8
        Can then hold a referendum? or how to appoint a collegium of approvers in the USA?

        You can of course and a referendum with the board.
        One question:
        Why aren't ships or submarines called such "deafening" names?
        I propose to call the nearest submarine accepted into the Navy - "Tandoor" or "Cheburek" !!!
        How do you like the idea? It's funny, right?
        What a laugh it will be - the newest submarine "Tandyr" project "Cheburek" !!!
        And all so ha ha ha !! laughing
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 13 November 2019 15: 19
          +2
          Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi
          Why aren't ships or submarines called such "deafening" names?

          Because the Navy is more and more in fauna and mythology. "Atlanta", "Navagi", "Pike", "Sarichi", "Golden Eagles", "Ermines", "Albatrosses", "Gadflies", etc.
          Moreover, all these project ciphers are still not very official. Officially "Zoo" is 1L219M.
          Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi
          Either Buratina will be called, then Derivation, then Tosochka (what kind of word is this?)

          With "Tosochka" just everything is clear - this is a wheeled lightweight version of TOS-1, "small TOS".
    3. Amateur
      Amateur 13 November 2019 13: 52
      0
      Genetic memory: "Even if you call it a pot, just don't put it in the stove" and whatever the enemy might guess. laughing
    4. Romario_Argo
      Romario_Argo 13 November 2019 13: 57
      +1
      there is also a counter-battery radar Hawk-AV
      radar web is very similar
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 13 November 2019 14: 15
        +2
        This is promising, to replace "Zoos"
        1. sivuch
          sivuch 13 November 2019 16: 11
          0
          And the same monstrous and sector. In my opinion, a pyramid with 4 antennas would have looked better
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 13 November 2019 16: 15
            +1
            Quote: sivuch
            And the same monstrous and sector.

            If Iskanders cannot destroy machine-gun nests, this does not mean that they are not needed.

            Such "long-range" ones are made precisely by sector.

            And "pyramids" or "cylinders" are needed in less power and at a lower level, a regiment-battalion
        2. Brturin
          Brturin 13 November 2019 16: 57
          0
          Quote: Spade
          This is promising, to replace "Zoos"

          a month ago there was already a photo of a "prototype" - "Yastreb-AV" surpasses similar systems in service with both the Russian Armed Forces and foreign armies ... The practical readiness of the new Yastreb-AV reconnaissance radar complex was announced back in 2017 "- https://topwar.ru/163402-v-seti-pojavilos-foto-opytnogo-obrazca-kompleksa-razvedki-jastreb-av.html. But the Zoo was modernized ...
    5. Sidor Amenpodestovich
      Sidor Amenpodestovich 13 November 2019 14: 08
      +3
      There is a saying: "Fools are clever, and smart fools."
    6. Prisoner
      Prisoner 13 November 2019 14: 13
      +3
      And why did you suddenly fuss? Normal name. Lightened up laughing ?
    7. Piramidon
      Piramidon 13 November 2019 14: 21
      +4
      Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi
      Who calls such devices "ZOO"?

      Does it annoy you? Here are the adversaries too. Let them get nervous with you.
    8. Alien From
      Alien From 13 November 2019 14: 29
      0
      And also we change the landscape, and manually)))))
    9. NEXUS
      NEXUS 13 November 2019 20: 35
      +1
      Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi
      It is interesting that they smoke when they choose the name ?!

      And what difference does it make developers call their weapons? The question is not the name, but the essence of the weapon itself and its effectiveness. Well Pinocchio, well Katyusha ... but not the same wooden soulless nicknames-Satan, Reverse fire, Cinderhulk ... Marvel gives such nicknames to his movie heroes. And we have everything with soul and Russian enthusiasm, Schaub the enemy did not guess.
    10. Pavlov Sergey Alexandrovich
      Pavlov Sergey Alexandrovich 14 November 2019 08: 06
      -1
      Smoke what you need
  4. Lopatov
    Lopatov 13 November 2019 13: 27
    +4
    Modernization took into account the combat experience gained in Syria.

    Under the table...
    "Zoos" do not take into account this most notorious "experience of Syria" in principle. For they were created for a completely different war. To confront a much stronger and more high-tech enemy.
    1. LiSiCyn
      LiSiCyn 13 November 2019 13: 58
      +6
      It may have been created for another, but the RS and min.mines in Syria are used constantly. At the same Hmeimime, for any stand.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 13 November 2019 14: 13
        +3
        Quote: LiSiCyn
        It may have been created for another, but the RS and min.mines in Syria are used constantly. At the same Hmeimime, for any stand.

        That's just the same, if we took into account the "serial experience", then they would create a radar firstly, not more powerful and "longer-range" than the Soviet "Zoo" but in the interval between the "Zoo" and "Aistenok"

        In addition, for local wars and "stabilization operations" systems with a sector of 360 degrees are needed. And not 90 degrees, as in "Zoo-1M" ​​After all, it turns out that to cover the base center, four radars are needed even without overlapping sectors and without a reserve.
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 13 November 2019 15: 22
          +1
          Quote: Spade
          In addition, for local wars and "stabilization operations" systems with a sector of 360 degrees are needed.

          Such a radar will have a problem with placement - you have to put it in the most prominent place, on the platform in the center of the base (ideal target). Otherwise, there will be shaded sectors. So it’s better to have a pair of radars with a working sector of 180 degrees.
        2. Oyo Sarkazmi
          Oyo Sarkazmi 13 November 2019 17: 35
          0
          Quote: Spade
          for local wars and "stabilization operations", systems with a sector of 360 degrees are needed.

          Not only is the car already standing in the rear, 10 kilometers from the front, so it’s more like looking for saboteurs in the rear?
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 14 November 2019 10: 37
            0
            Quote: Oo sarcasm
            Not only is the car already standing in the rear, 10 kilometers from the front, so it’s more like looking for saboteurs in the rear?

            It was about the use of radar in local wars and constitutional enforcement operations. And in them there is no front line and rear. And they can fire at the base from either side.
          2. Lopatov
            Lopatov 14 November 2019 11: 45
            0
            Quote: Oo sarcasm
            10 kilometers from the front

            What should she do there?
            As close to the enemy as possible. To conduct exploration to a greater depth.
    2. ism_ek
      ism_ek 13 November 2019 15: 34
      0
      High-tech adversary will easily destroy him from the air with an anti-radar missile
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 13 November 2019 15: 36
        +1
        Quote: ism_ek
        High-tech adversary will easily destroy him from the air with an anti-radar missile

        He doesn’t have enough missiles for everything 8))))))
      2. sivuch
        sivuch 13 November 2019 15: 59
        0
        Do you think PRR is so omnipotent? This is just the most hemorrhoid ASP
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 13 November 2019 16: 17
          +1
          Quote: sivuch
          Do you think PRR is so omnipotent? This is just the most hemorrhoid ASP

          Especially when you consider the number of radars on the modern battlefield. There is a station in each motorized rifle company.
  5. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 13 November 2019 13: 29
    +1
    Have an agreement, perhaps ... The other day, and the Ukrainian army took him into service ....
  6. Professor
    Professor 13 November 2019 13: 42
    +1
    The upgraded complex is guaranteed to detect the launch sites of not only regular ammunition, but also improvised missiles and mines.

    Could it be earlier? request
    1. LiSiCyn
      LiSiCyn 13 November 2019 13: 53
      +4
      Well, why could. But the opportunities were worse. Number of detected targets, range, possibly noise immunity and stealth operation.
  7. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 13 November 2019 13: 45
    +2
    I served in 42 MSD 50 SAP as an operator of the Zoo radar station.

    For 3 years of service, I never saw the complex as a worker, at startup it gave constant failures of different boloks, when restarting everything repeated, how nobody knew how to work on it, there were no training courses.

    In general, although the complex was in the regiment and was involved in exercises, there was no sense from it. A pile of government money into the void.

    I still don’t understand why it was impossible to make training courses for the entire crew to work on the new complex. The warrant-technician went to the training camp and was proud of the fact that he was called the best specialist in "Zoos" there, but the maximum that I saw from him was the skill of wiping cantakts of boards with vodka, but it did not help in any way.

    In general, this is my experience of serving at the "Zoo".
    1. Amateur
      Amateur 13 November 2019 13: 54
      -3
      but the maximum that I saw from him is the rubbing skill cantacts boards vodkabut it didn’t help.

      Therefore, it did not work.
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 13 November 2019 15: 29
      +1
      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      I still don’t understand why it was impossible to do training courses to work on the new complex

      This is a product of "experiments" with the Leningrad Artillery School. Which suddenly, instead of specialists in artillery instrumental reconnaissance, they began to release "scientists" with white academic "floats" and zero knowledge in the field of AIR. And Kolomna and Yekaterinburg continued to produce fire commanders. Who knew about such radars only what they are. And how they can serve zeroing.
    3. sivuch
      sivuch 13 November 2019 16: 06
      0
      And what about this year? Just in case - this is a question for Ratmir_Ryazan
      1. Ratmir_Ryazan
        Ratmir_Ryazan 13 November 2019 19: 13
        0
        And what about this year? Just in case - this is a question for Ratmir_Ryazan


        2004-2007 contracted there at the BAR
        1. sivuch
          sivuch 14 November 2019 09: 44
          +1
          thank you, boom, hope that the situation is better now
    4. yustas
      yustas 13 November 2019 16: 33
      +1
      vodka, well then you have not mentioned yet, and other drugs ... as I recall, we were recruited there just taking into account the use of vodka, wearing earflaps, and the bear should have been friends
      do not carry nonsense, its carriers and so enough
      1. Ratmir_Ryazan
        Ratmir_Ryazan 13 November 2019 19: 25
        +1
        do not carry nonsense, its carriers and so enough


        Of course, I understand that this destroys your picture of the world, but I didn’t invent a bit and I didn’t tell much else. So briefly outlined the picture of how the Zoo air defense system was used in the army.

        Hope something has changed now.

        Once we were traveling on a train with a captain from an artillery division from somewhere near Mulino, and we started talking about the Zoo, so he boasted that everything was working for them.

        And then we forgot the starters with the ensign and remove the antenna stops, the hydraulics pulled everything out.

        Somehow the breeders arrived (I was on vacation) to set up the complex, on the first day we drank local Chechen alcohol, one immediately the 200th, the second was pumped out, the guys told me that he had set up the complex and even worked at the exercises, but how and what I didn’t see there.

        Most of the time, the Zoo radar in our division just created the appearance of work, there was no benefit from it.

        By the way, later we received SNAR-10 after a major overhaul, no one was able to turn on the "high" on it, neither the battalion commander nor the platoon officers, this station was also instead of props during the exercises, stood in a caponier with a raised antenna and depicted work, but in fact it never detected anything ...

        We also had an ARC, I forgot the name, so it was generally understaffed.

        Well, the GTSM-topozapryvich was with an engine that praised the wedge.

        Hell, not a service. Nobody knew how to work on technology, neither officers nor contract contractors, spare parts were not very expensive, they bought at their own expense.

        It was important for all the Moscow commissions that the cars started the engines on command and the lights were on, and the officers of such commissions did not seem to know how it all worked.
  8. Recon
    Recon 13 November 2019 13: 56
    +1
    The name, of course, as always - fire!)). I don’t know who it all comes up with, but they have a peculiar sense of humor.
    1. Ratmir_Ryazan
      Ratmir_Ryazan 13 November 2019 19: 27
      +1
      The name, of course, as always - fire!)). I don’t know who it all comes up with, but they have a peculiar sense of humor.


      As we were told by "Zoo" this is because this RLC combined the functions of various old complexes, and in addition to abbreviations and numbers, they were also called the names of animals, which is why they all together - "Zoo".
  9. Prisoner
    Prisoner 13 November 2019 14: 06
    +2
    I never cease to be amazed at the humor of our weapons specialists. The Zoo complex will plant all the animals in the cages. Distribute into squares laughing
  10. Klingon
    Klingon 13 November 2019 14: 09
    +1
    Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi
    The counter-battery radar "Zoo" is intended for reconnaissance of the positions of enemy fire weapons and for adjusting the fire by detecting enemy ammunition after a shot and calculating the trajectory.

    I have no doubt that the radar is beautiful and perfectly copes with its task.
    But ... Who calls such devices "ZOO"? Either they will call Buratina, or Derivation, or Tosochka (what kind of word is that?)
    Maybe they choose the name of the tender? By the principle - the more wonderful and absurd, the better?
    Link to article IN:
    https://topwar.ru/13180-nesereznye-nazvaniya-sereznogo-oruzhiya.html
    Excerpt from there:
    ... the RPMK-1 radio-direction-finding meteorological complex is called "Smile", the thermobaric warhead 9M216 - "Excitement", the 240-mm missile projectile MS-24 with the chemical warhead - "Laska", the 122-mm missile projectile 9M22K with the warhead cluster - "Ornament ". Special mention should be made of the UAZ-3150 “Shalun” car, the MR-352 “Positive” ship radar and the “Hi” 23mm rubber bullet. The “Vest” body armor, the “Variant” grenade launcher, the “Excite” playful infantry shoulder blade, the “Tenderness” handcuffs, and the Ecstasy multiple-action light-and-noise grenade ...
    ... today the Russian army has at its disposal an armored personnel carrier BTR-80A "Violence" and a heavy TRS station R-410M "Diagnosis". In addition, there is a special medical vehicle for the BMM-1D Traumatism airborne troops and the 65s941 Tonus software and hardware complex ...
    ... The 30A 9A-4071 automatic cannon is called the Ballerina, and the autonomous integrated secondary air traffic control and state recognition radar is called the Stewardess ...

    It is interesting that they smoke when they choose the name ?!

    so it’s because the Zoo that scouts different animals, and puts it on display: it will look at the mortar calculation to the right, to the left - MLRS, etc. or rather, he, like a dragonfly with its faceted eyes, looks at once in all directions. So I don’t understand what you don’t like about the title.
  11. rocket757
    rocket757 13 November 2019 14: 11
    +2
    The army is equipped with a kind of service ... modern, effective means of reconnaissance, target designation, communications and electronic warfare! The next stage is automation and the creation of a network management / interaction structure.
    In addition to modern, effective weapons, this is very serious, encouraging ... of course, if it corresponds to the STATED!
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    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 13 November 2019 15: 34
      +1
      Quote: Mikhail Kaverin
      The Zoo began to produce "Zoo" ... enchanting ...

      Zoo-2 is produced by the Zaporozhye NPK Iskra. Rather, it could have been produced if the money had been found. And so you have to be content with American old stuff.
      1. sivuch
        sivuch 13 November 2019 16: 48
        0
        You should hurry up with answers to the user "Mikhail Kaverin". Something tells me that he's not here for long
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    1. Tiksi-3
      Tiksi-3 13 November 2019 14: 33
      +2
      Quote: Mikhail Kaverin
      . You give the next nuclear explosion near Severodvinsk !!!

      almost guessed Svidomo, only near Lviv! Wait for the polite little men ....
      1. Mestny
        Mestny 13 November 2019 16: 14
        0
        No, little men it is fawn. They are people, that is, they will be too noticeable in a hungry and vicious crowd of Svidomites.
        Carpet bombing only. Only napalm.
  16. Antidote
    Antidote 13 November 2019 14: 28
    -1
    40 spherical km and 20sec calculation, something is not impressive. Arta is already under 100km, and the MLRS has long crossed this bar
    1. Sochi
      Sochi 13 November 2019 15: 21
      +1
      the complex detects not the starting point, but the projectile (mine) flying along a ballistic trajectory, and based on the trajectory, the caliber calculates the coordinates of the firing points. And also corrects according to the same data the firing of its fire weapons.
      1. Antidote
        Antidote 13 November 2019 16: 17
        -1
        Thank you, I know how it works. I say that with the current parameters this prodigy is not a tenant on the theater.
        It should stand in the rear of its troops Beyond the reach of weapons of destruction, monitor and coordinate.
        1. Sochi
          Sochi 13 November 2019 17: 00
          0
          The desire is understandable, only you the size of the shell, can you imagine mines? This is a dozen other centimeters ... that means the system works in the centimeter range, and this is practically its maximum, in terms of range and resolution. Just the laws of physics. You can of course raise the antenna higher ... but this is a big complication, because the selection will have to be carried out against the background of the underlying surface, which is not very buzzing ... Plus, goodbye to the possibility of masking, such an antenna will be detected not only by instrumental reconnaissance, but also visually from ten kilometers.
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 13 November 2019 15: 32
      +1
      Quote: Antidote
      Art is already under 100km

      This does not mean that it will be 100 kilometers from the line of contact.
  17. smel
    smel 13 November 2019 14: 39
    +1
    The author, but what, does the 19 division already exist? I apparently missed !!! Yes, and Sobolev is professionally weak for evaluating this complex.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 13 November 2019 15: 35
      0
      Quote: smel
      The author, and what, - 19 division already exists?

      Hmmm ... in February 2018, the MO promised that 19 men ’brigade would be deployed back to the division.
      As the Ministry of Defense told Izvestia, at the end of 2018, the formation of two new motorized rifle divisions will begin immediately as part of the 58th combined arms army. They will be created on the basis of the currently existing 19th and 136th separate motorized rifle brigades (Omsbr) by adding additional battalions and regiments. It is supposed to equip them with BMP-3 infantry fighting vehicles and T-72B3 tanks.

      In 2019, it was clarified that:
      The 19th motorized rifle brigade will again become the 503rd motorized rifle regiment, the 4th military base will become the 693rd motorized rifle regiment, and the 135th motorized rifle regiment will be restored in Ingushetia.
      1. smel
        smel 13 November 2019 15: 41
        0
        'Do not believe what is written. "- These are not my words. But about the clarifications of 2019 - complete nonsense of a seriously ill journalist
    2. Laksamana besar
      Laksamana besar 13 November 2019 15: 57
      -1
      How did he know, he no longer commanded the reformation of the 19. winked
      1. smel
        smel 13 November 2019 16: 05
        0
        How did he know, he no longer commanded when reforming 19
        Who are you talking about?
  18. Ros 56
    Ros 56 13 November 2019 17: 00
    0
    An interesting thing, well, and according to the results of its work, it is possible to tumble a scoundrel with a whip so that it would be disgraceful for others.
  19. Klingon
    Klingon 13 November 2019 17: 42
    0
    Quote: Mikhail Kaverin
    All northern Africa is contaminated with such scrap metal, starting from the times of the USSR, similar burnt rubbish all over Africa ... You have not seen in Afghanistan how much such rusty rubbish is lying around ... You give another nuclear explosion near Severodvinsk !!!

    roll, dear friend, it looks like acute psychosis TK. all the symptoms are there. Do you whisper voices there ?? wassat
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 13 November 2019 19: 59
      +1
      Quote: Klingon
      Do you whisper voices there ??

      Apparently, they do not whisper there, but already chant the chorus - SUGS. smile
  20. Klingon
    Klingon 14 November 2019 01: 10
    0
    Quote: Alexey RA
    Quote: Klingon
    Do you whisper voices there ??

    Apparently, they do not whisper there, but already chant the chorus - SUGS. smile

    drinks
  21. Tektor
    Tektor 14 November 2019 12: 09
    0
    Class !!!!!