DneproGES, or What really threatens Ukraine Russia


DneproGES


More often from Ukraine come news about the next fall of the bridge, the collapse of the house, the failure of the asphalt surface of the road, the malfunction of the nuclear power plant, etc. Emergency geography is expanding every day: Kharkov, Odessa, Lviv, Ternopil regions and, of course, Kiev. The frequency of such news recalls reports from the front. At the same time, the infrastructure of prisoners is not taken. The main thing is that the frequency of such news is such that it accustomed us to the routine of the ongoing infrastructure nightmare. Even the next emergency at the nuclear power plant, which previously made the author startle, is perceived with some boredom. Alas, behind this heap of emergency some significant moments are sometimes lost that can entail colossal consequences.

"Decommunization" of the Dnieper on the march


More and more dangerous “bells” come from the Dnieper Hydroelectric Power Station. Ten years ago, a group of Ukrainian experts stated that part of the dams of Ukraine on the Dnieper are in a dangerous condition and require serious repairs. But in full, even then, the work was not done. Therefore, at the moment, the collapse of a whole cascade of dams along the Dnieper is a threat.

If the Kiev dam collapses (just north of the capital), then the stream will first destroy the city bridges, half of which are also in disrepair, not counting the flooding of large areas of Kiev, and later rush down the Dnieper. The next in line will be the Kanevskaya dam, whose hydroelectric power station is more powerful than the Kievskaya dam. She also can not stand the blow of a powerful wave. After some time, the Kremenchug dam will sink into oblivion.


Kiev hydroelectric station - the first bone in the domino effect

As a result, according to experts, a wave with a height of 10 meters will literally wash away the last line of defense in front of the Dnieper hydroelectric station - the Dnieperrodzerzhinsky hydroelectric station, which instead of repair they decided to reward with “decommunization” and renamed Srednedneprovskaya. Naturally, the wave that is gaining power will soon literally bury the legendary DneproGES - the crown of the cascade of Dnieper hydroelectric power stations.

The consequences should be discussed separately. Indeed, despite the apocalyptic nature of such an outcome, this scenario is far from the only one capable of finally “decommunizing” the great river of Ukraine.

Dneproges itself is "tired"


The phrase “the bridge is a little tired”, which has become a catchword, belongs to the mayor of Kiev, Klitschko. He burst out with this comical tirade immediately after he arrived at the site of the collapse of the capital's Shulyaevsky bridge. Oddly enough, but in a sense, our chrysostom was right. Ukraine’s infrastructure is really tired. As for the Dnieper hydroelectric station, without the cascade of crashes along the Dnieper, the facility is ready to collapse.

The first alarming news about the state of the Dnieper hydroelectric station was heard last year, and at the beginning of the 2019 year, the authorities of Zaporizhia completely prohibited the movement of vehicles weighing more than 25 tons on the dam. This step of frank despair is the last hope that the dam will not collapse.

True, you should not expect any result. After all, the ban does not apply to city, suburban and social transport, garbage trucks and emergency vehicles. In addition, no one will guarantee that in a poor country for a share of a small local guardian of the road order will not miss another truck.

It is worth noting that the “body” of the dam during the Great Patriotic War was blown up twice and restored twice. But conversations about the overhaul of DneproGES began to be conducted back in the 80-s of the last century. But at the same time, thorough construction and modernization was going on all over Ukraine - a farewell gift to the ungrateful offspring from the Union. Therefore, while the project on the Dnieper hydroelectric power station was being approved, the USSR itself collapsed, and the new leadership of the former USSR was occupied with completely different things. As a result, the turbines were just changed at the hydroelectric power station.


Germans blasting the Dnieper hydroelectric dam (photo from a German airplane, 1943 year)

During this truncated modernization, specialists naturally conducted a detailed survey of the dam. Multiple through cracks up to 1,5 millimeter wide were discovered. And already in the 2009 year, the mayor of Zaporozhye Yevgeny Kartashov sent a letter to the Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine asking him to “determine the accident rate of the Dnieper hydroelectric dam”. Also, the mayor asked to speed up the process of allocating funds from the reserve fund of the Cabinet of Ministers in the amount of 7,7 million hryvnias for priority work to eliminate the emergency.

The mayor argued a similar request with very frightening data. So, according to him, the construction of the carriageway of the dam has cracked and is already a security risk. And according to unconfirmed reports, LLC Zaporizhmost and even claims a sharp deterioration in the situation at this facility.

At the same time (given the extraordinary politicization of everything and everything in the modern world), it is almost impossible to achieve intelligible answers from Ukrainian, however, and some Russian specialists. Some beat the alarm; others duplicate the phrase "you are lying." For example, a homegrown scientist and hydrologist engineer Yuri Medovar said that he “visited DneproGES” and made sure that it was a “colossal structure”, and therefore there is nothing to fear. After these words he became even more uneasy, because Medovar is an old, ardent oppositionist, an “apple-boy” and one of the prophets of “the destruction of the Crimean bridge immediately after putting it into operation.”

Aftermath


It is clear that in the current situation it is extremely difficult to give an objective assessment of the state of DneproGES, but the consequences were predicted long before the Maidan - during the emergency services exercises, therefore they can more or less be trusted.


Definitely will be completely flooded Zaporozhye. In some areas, water will rise by 8-12 meters. This mark will be held for about 4-7 hours. A complete decline in water is expected only four days later. In this case, flooding will be rapid and catastrophic.

It will be swept away by a huge 20 meter wave, which will move at a speed of 17 meters per second. Naturally, all bridges on the Dnieper will be completely destroyed. In the zone of catastrophic flooding will be over 100 thousand people only in the city of Zaporozhye.

In addition, even after the departure of water throughout the flooding, there will remain from half a meter to a meter of sludge and various garbage. The main thing is that sewage and toxic waste will burst out, which will cause a terrible epidemiological situation in the entire region. However, given the current situation in Ukraine, the true extent of the tragedy cannot be predicted for certain. In addition, in 70 kilometers downstream of the Dnieper is the Zaporizhzhya NPP. At the same time, only the consequences of the destruction of the Dnieper hydroelectric station are presented here, and to predict the results of the cascade of collapses, starting from the Kiev hydroelectric station, is generally unusually difficult, and scary. And all this will definitely affect Russia, the consequences are too widespread: migration, epidemics, environmental conditions ...
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  1. demo 15 November 2019 15: 13 New
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    Apocalypse!?
    And what does the author offer us?
    Throw money to restore or repair?
    Let this article be translated into Ukrainian and posted on Ukrainian sites.
    And he will see how many good words and epithets are glued to him.

    Why do we need to worry about Ukrainians?
    The salvation of drowning people (in the direct sense of the word) is the work of the drowning people themselves.
    1. Lexus 15 November 2019 15: 30 New
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      Throw money to restore or repair?

      I propose to send them the Irkutsk governor and his "team." For good.
      1. Ravil_Asnafovich 15 November 2019 15: 48 New
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        I agree with you, not only Irkutsk, such a whole division will be typed at the head of a fan of iPads and other gadgets.
      2. Arthur 85 15 November 2019 16: 53 New
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        So I imagine: there is a column of tanks, a funnel is going (crossed out) Willis with the governor. The lead tank turns the cannon, stopping Willis. The tank commander climbs out of the hatch, and asks: Mr. Governor, is it true that you are being transferred to v. Ukraine?
        That:
        “What do you allow yourself?” I’ll sell your tank for engine wear!
        - I just wanted to ask: are you there for an internship, or for good?
        Deputy Governor from the rear seat:
        - For good, Petenka.
        The commander yells to the unit:
        - FOR ALL! .. Sell, Mr. Governor!
      3. bandabas 15 November 2019 18: 07 New
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        And why only Irkutsk? Almost all governors and mayors from Russia can. And then we come to the same thing slowly. All "personnel pseudo-reservists" are tudy.
      4. Russian jacket 16 November 2019 08: 24 New
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        Levchenko, Levchenko on the restoration of the dam .... It seems to be suitable for the family ..... Yes, and the same thing. wassat
      5. SergeyM 18 November 2019 08: 49 New
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        We ourselves need Levchenko, send better than the great power engineer and optimizer Chubas
    2. 210ox 15 November 2019 15: 31 New
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      Here I do not agree with the author. Let them do what they want, do it, repair it, destroy it. The main thing is that we would have less emergency.
      1. The leader of the Redskins 15 November 2019 17: 51 New
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        the next fall of the bridge, the collapse of the house, the failure of the asphalt surface of the road,

        Author! Exactly about Ukroin write? !! Do not confuse geography? Or did the bridges in Siberia not collapse? Or maybe last year the houses did not explode due to gas leaks? !!!
        1. Alex Fox 16 November 2019 11: 57 New
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          Are you all grunting?
      2. sevryuk 15 November 2019 20: 30 New
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        And “you” is who? ”Residents of the former USSR are somewhat different from residents of the former RSFSR? Unfortunately, both of them are guided by the principle“ Beat your own, so that others will be afraid! ”, Which once again proves that they are one people And yes, others will laugh.
        1. EvilLion 19 November 2019 13: 52 New
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          That's just over the former residents. The RSFSR is a workable state, unlike.
      3. Lelek 16 November 2019 15: 03 New
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        Quote: 210ox
        Let them do what they want, do it, repair it, destroy it.

        hi , Dmitry.
        Yes, the "bastard" Svidomo tightly on one side. I subtracted the opus of a true dill, looking across the Crimea from the retinue of a hetman, a certain Anton Kornievich, who (respect!) Forbids Russia to move along the Crimean bridge (which, according to the statements of the special Svidomo does not exist at all, but is a Russian fake). Broke my head, is this stupidity, schiz or some kind of virus from Antarctica?
    3. Invoce 15 November 2019 15: 34 New
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      Quote: demo
      Apocalypse!?
      And what does the author offer us?
      Throw money to restore or repair?
      Let this article be translated into Ukrainian and posted on Ukrainian sites.
      And he will see how many good words and epithets are glued to him.

      Why do we need to worry about Ukrainians?
      The salvation of drowning (- in the truest sense of the word) - the work of the drowning.


      For those who do not think when they express their thoughts and do not read the article to the end! sad

      At the same time, only the consequences of the destruction of the Dnieper hydroelectric station are presented here, and to predict the results of the cascade of collapses, starting from the Kiev hydroelectric station, is generally extremely difficult, and scary. And all this will definitely affect Russia, the consequences are too widespread: migration, epidemics, environmental conditions ...
      1. demo 15 November 2019 16: 29 New
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        I know that you and many don’t like it, but I’m not a married bride to like?
        For those who do not think when they express their thoughts and do not read the article to the end!
        So what?
        From, specifically to me, that these people do not think with their own heads?
        There is a threat - leave.
        You probably have relatives in Russia - close or distant (many have)?
        Or after Maidan, when they threw Yanukovych off, when they put on pots, when they shot the Golden Eagle, when people were burnt alive in Odessa, when for 5 years they simply shelled their Donbass - after all major and not very events, relations with their clans went wrong?
        Of course!
        Russians are not your brothers.
        You are the same that neither is the SALT and the navel of the earth!
        So prove you're worth something!
        Hold DneproGES pens.
        Pacify the water.
        No need to migrate anywhere.
        Epidemics? Yes, you have the Pentagon's American bacteriological laboratories! They will help you overcome the infection!
        So I have my own, very EVIL opinion about those you care about.

        I will conclude with a short story from my own life.

        I had a boss. Of the former large ranks of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
        And at the beginning of his service, he was an employee of the NKVD.
        You know what it is.
        As he did not reach for the general's stripes, it didn’t work out.
        He resigned as a colonel.
        But he decided to make his son a general.
        And by 35 years, the son was a colonel.
        And the Academy of the Ministry of Internal Affairs with honors.
        And all positive!
        For the general, one step is necessary - a business trip with a combined detachment to Chechnya.
        I went.
        And he got into a meat grinder.
        The head armored personnel carrier and the closing one were set on fire in the gorge.
        And then shoot everyone and everything.
        And while the turntables were waiting, they were shooting back.
        But they got into that APC behind which this colonel lay.
        The armored personnel carrier turned over and lay directly on this colonel.
        When he was brought to the hospital, then all his bones were broken - from the top of the head to the heel.
        The colonel did not become a general.
        Died in half a year.
        But I know that God suffers for a long time, but it hurts very painfully.
        And my boss did not have a story for the blood and horror that he carried all his life to people.
        I spent hours with him on the road.
        And he enthusiastically told how he caught the "Japanese" and "American" spies and how quickly they confessed under the weight of the "evidence".
        And when a person has in his hands a signed gratitude personally to Andropov and stamping to the Honorary Officer of the NKVD-MGB-KGB of the USSR, then this speaks volumes.

        I do not wish anyone harm.
        God himself will figure out whom to execute, and whom to have mercy.

        But one thing is clear - If the Almighty decided to punish someone, then there will be no mercy.
        1. Amin_vivec 15 November 2019 16: 56 New
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          The soldier is bad that does not dream of becoming a general, the father is bad - that he does not dream of a better share for his children. The father raised a son - a hero, and buried him ...
          And your comment just breathes gloating ...
          Well, yes, you are right, evil - it then has the property of returning.
          1. demo 15 November 2019 19: 32 New
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            Nothing you did not understand.
            Father is an antihero.
            About his "exploits" you can write books.
            Only they will tell how this employee carried out the “plan” for the search and destruction of enemies of the people and spies.
            And the methods of his work were very far from not only the requirements of the law, but also simple human humanism.
            And the son, such a "servant" raised accordingly.

            Only one can be added.
            You can hide something from people.
            But there are no secrets from the Almighty.
            You can call it another way - Karma, Fate.
            And I'm not gloating.
            I just understand and declare my thought - you have to live honestly. And do not make deals with the Devil.
            After all, he could have left the service? Could.
            Could people not break? Could.
            But this thirst - the thirst for power, the maximum degree of permissiveness, the inconceivable ability to control the freedom and life of another person, was stronger.
            I will not write in what kind of "chocolate" he lived.
            And how much he earned as a pensioner.
            Thanks to me and a few others like me.
            But that doesn’t bother me at all.

            I was then worried about something else.
            God will punish this ghoul? When? And How?

            That's it.
            To envy that not your son 10 tons will crush?
            Come to your senses!
            1. Amin_vivec 15 November 2019 20: 21 New
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              In any case, since you know, it means you are no longer involved, and you continued to serve there. Just did not reach its "heights". But do not judge at all - but you will not be judged.
              There are people with whom, according to human laws, it is impossible at all - monsters that children are being raped, and there are many others - they need to be torn to pieces alive. Only now, not every sin will be taken to heart - I want someone else ... only not me ... And for his sins - he will not answer to you.
            2. Kazbek 16 November 2019 18: 49 New
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              Why are you writing each sentence on a new line? Is this the style?
            3. bk316 21 November 2019 12: 15 New
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              I was then worried about something else.
              God will punish this ghoul? When? And How?

              The father raised a son - a hero, and buried him ...


              Here God will figure out who the ghoul and who is the hero.
              And the fact that he died such a death still does not mean anything.
              Jesus, too, did not die in a dream, and you, the great humanist, can still dream of such a death.
              This I mean that there is no greater stupidity than to think of oneself who understood God's plan.
        2. Krasnoyarsk 15 November 2019 19: 29 New
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          Quote: demo
          You probably have relatives in Russia - close or distant (many have)?

          Well, you have relatives in Ukraine, normal, not Maidan. Well, they came to you, family, with children. And you and your wife are pensioners and live in a one-room apartment. How can you help them? Therefore, realizing this, they do not go so as not to burden you, but not because they like a secluded regime, but because there is nowhere to go.
          Most of those who disagree in Ukraine are poor people, but in order to move you need money plus the issue of housing. Not everything is as simple as you think.
          1. Amin_vivec 15 November 2019 21: 25 New
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            2 second cousins ​​with their families arrived, stayed with me, registered with the FMS, found a job, rented a house (2-3 weeks). 2 years - everyone has citizenship and normal work, one brother - bought an apartment not new not in the center, but his own, his second brother - office housing.
            1. Krasnoyarsk 16 November 2019 00: 26 New
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              Quote: Amin_Vivec
              2 second cousins ​​with their families arrived, stayed with me,

              In your one-room? !! I admire you !!!
              1. Amin_vivec 16 November 2019 01: 20 New
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                no three rubles.
                1. Krasnoyarsk 16 November 2019 09: 00 New
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                  Quote: Amin_Vivec
                  no three rubles.

                  Then without admiration, just respect.
        3. Victorio 15 November 2019 21: 53 New
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          Quote: demo
          But I know that God suffers for a long time, but it hurts very painfully.
          And my boss did not have a story for the blood and horror that he carried all his life to people.
          I spent hours with him on the road.
          And he enthusiastically told how he caught the "Japanese" and "American" spies and how quickly they confessed under the weight of the "evidence".
          And when a person has in his hands a signed gratitude personally to Andropov and stamping to the Honorary Officer of the NKVD-MGB-KGB of the USSR, then this speaks volumes.

          ===
          hardly believes in these revelations, why would he share with you ?!
          1. businessv 16 November 2019 18: 12 New
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            hardly believes in these revelations, why would he share with you ?!

            Well, then you will be very surprised when you find out what the bosses are sharing with their driver, especially if the road is long and the service is long!
        4. Nikolai Korovin 16 November 2019 16: 25 New
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          Apparently, the threat is real, and the greatest danger threatens Zaporozhye. This is a large industrial center. Hard workers - more than half, probably there were Russians, I don’t know how it is now. And in general, the people are normal. I do not think that Zaporozhye sinned the most, and it was decided to punish this particular city. Or is there the whole population entirely from the children of the colonels of the NKVD?
        5. EvilLion 19 November 2019 13: 56 New
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          Another anti-adviser for whom the NKVD is the product of evil.
      2. Dmitry Potapov 15 November 2019 17: 00 New
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        And why go to the occupation? Do not go to Europe, they wanted to go there!
        1. aakvit 6 December 2019 13: 35 New
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          Are they needed there? Although, instead of Arab immigrants they will work, there are many unpleasant jobs!
    4. New Year day 15 November 2019 19: 21 New
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      Quote: demo
      The salvation of drowning people (in the direct sense of the word) is the work of the drowning people themselves.

      this is so, but in this case, neighbors are not chosen. In addition to the Dnieper, there are also nuclear power plants!
      1. Pavel57 15 November 2019 20: 56 New
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        An accident at the dams will lead to the collapse of the power system, and nuclear power plants are located in it. Fukushima beats in the Ukrainian heart.
    5. boriz 15 November 2019 20: 42 New
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      For good, it is necessary to bring to power their sane people. And Putin has already shown whom he wants to put. And really, in the New Year’s region, it will be possible to deliver who is needed. But first you need to deal with the authorities in their own country, the situation is deadlock.
      At the dawn of our, Russian, independence, it was fashionable, when posting advertisements for recruiting employees for sales, to set a condition: for those who worked in Soviet trade, please do not worry.
      So now, to dismiss 4–4.5 million from work “by the hands of drivers”, “problem solvers”, “controllers of financial flows” and “budget cutters” and to strictly prevent those who have worked as an official for the past 20 years, deputy on lists, was a member of EP.
      Then money will appear for those who really work and worked and a moral right appears to teach others how to live.
      1. Amin_vivec 15 November 2019 21: 33 New
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        But Che - everything is true, this is called "lustration", in Ukraine they did so. For example, they did this to the police - those who served under Yanukovych - all in garbage cans (honest dishonest - indiscriminately) - wolf tickets to everyone, so that they won’t get anywhere (and honest and dishonest - do not care !!!), they scored empty-headed youth trained according to the courses " ! Police Academy "like in the movies - and happiness began in Ukraine and the rule of law)))))
        Boris, do you know how a real opera is - "Gleb Zhiglov" differs from such a "policeman"? The presence of brains and many years of experience.
        And who will hand it over? no one.
        1. boriz 16 November 2019 01: 39 New
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          You just don’t understand what you’re talking about. There were 4 times more officials than there were throughout the USSR. Despite the fact that they are engaged, mainly not in solving problems, but in controlling financial flows, and each group has its own controller. In the USSR, financing took place automatically, in accordance with the budget. Those who work there say that more or less 20 percent are involved in the business. The rest are ballast (in terms of real benefits). Those who are in the 20% are well known and keep them on the note. There are people who are determined to work normally and can work. I saw in my region that such people are selected, tried in business and move up and to the side (to other regions to create a team there).
          At the right time, the right people will be the backbone, and the rest - according to my scenario.
          And for an example I will cite the Pension Fund. There are no PFs in China and Singapore. There, a person has a bank account, to which he does not have access, but can easily control his condition. All the movement of money is done on the machine, just not a very complicated program. This happens in countries with a "totalitarian dictatorship."
          In countries where liberalism of world financiers has deeply taken root, there is PF. For example, in the USA there is a PF, the number of its employees is already 60 people. Ponder over 000 parasites per 60 million people. We have 000 people working in the PF. The fact that they live much better than the average Russian and now and after retirement, I hope, even you have no doubt. This, not to mention the fact that from time to time, having landed on the few remaining lives, they tear their claws towards London and live there happily ever after, spitting on us (and you). But there is no extradition from London.
          At the same time, our country looks very bad in terms of the ratio of pension to average salary (which is also not good news). This is 32%. Unions fight for 40%, but to no avail. In other countries, the situation is different, here, offhand:
          Kazakhstan - 46%
          Bulgaria - 89%
          Portugal - 95%
          India - 99%
          Turkey - 102%
          Croatia - 129%
          https://kursiv.kz/news/tendencii-i-issledovaniya/2018-08/gde-ne-strashno-na-pensiyu-vykhodit-obzor-pensionnykh-sistem
          Well, how, were you imbued with pride in our servants, cool specialists, who care about the public good?
          If you are very concerned about the fate of these most valuable specialists and their undoubtedly “unique” experience, then you should go to a psychiatrist.
          1. Amin_vivec 16 November 2019 02: 28 New
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            Well, let's fire them all tomorrow. 80% of them - women over 45, single mothers, etc. ... with a salary of no more than 20 thousand - these will no longer find work for themselves. Will join the ranks of the unemployed, without any stable income ... Yes, and do not care. Do not fit into the market.
            Are we ready for a new pension system? no. Tomorrow half of the pensioners "accidentally" do not receive their pension on time ... Where will they go? Who will solve these problems? Banks?))))
            Nobody canceled inflation ... The pension system periodically indexes, recalculates with an increase for each specific pensioner ... again to the Banks?))) Well, well)))
            If you want it as in Singapore - go there, do not stir up the water.
            our pensions are progressive - with age, payments increase ... Concessional pensions ... Military pensions ... Pensions for children ... Pensions for the disabled ... Chernobyl ... Deprived of the bread-winner ... Corporate pensions ... Northern. .. For work in hazardous industries ... in each case - dozens of reasons for receiving or canceling ... Honey. commissions ... Social services ...
            We have a VERY RESTRICTED pension system, it is not just an account with a certain amount as in Singapore. WE ARE READY TO REFUSE THIS SYSTEM ?! WILL A SCRIPT PASS PREVIOUSLY FOR THE POPULATION? FOR THE STATE?
            1. AUL
              AUL 16 November 2019 08: 16 New
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              If you want it as in Singapore - go there, do not stir up the water.

              I want like in Singapore! But I don’t want to go there, I want it to be so here. No corruption. Without "their people" at all levels of government. But if here "do not stir up the water," as you deigned to say, then we will never be like in Singapore. Under the lying stone ...
              1. Alexey RA 19 November 2019 11: 24 New
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                I want like in Singapore!

                Many of those who want to, like in Singapore, actually want Singapore rights, but by no means Singapore duties - from the series "I want to live in a clean house with clean air, but dare not forbid me to smoke on the balcony and throw bull-calves on the lawn".
                If you want to live like in Singapore - get ready for snitching, punishment for the slightest violation of the law, and even arrest because your cousin was involved in something illegal. You can also forget about “democracy” and “people's will”: one party, one leader, work, and not rally who is against - no one is holding you here.
                And all this so that not you, not your children, but, most likely, grandchildren could live normally. Well, as normal - also strictly "according to the charter".
                1. bk316 21 November 2019 12: 29 New
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                  Many who want to like Singapore actually want Singapore rights, but by no means Singapore duties.

                  Alexey You are certainly absolutely right, as in most of your posts, but what's the point of writing this?
                  So people are arranged. 80% of all the fans are just like that, another 10% understand that this will not happen, but they hope "to slip between the tricks", and another 10% just fiercely hate everyone around, and of course, primarily those who are richer, healthier, smarter ...
                  But they all shout as one that the great patriots are humanists and fighters for.
                  I repeat that it is so arranged that 10% live thinking and analyzing the fact that they are not directly related and out of these 10% only 10% do it successfully. The rest just live is not good and not bad - it's just a fact. And only modern technologies gave these 90% the opportunity to go astray and think of themselves as experts.
                  There are no simple solutions either in the management of the country or in the management of the city or in the management of ornamentation, department, etc.
              2. aakvit 6 December 2019 13: 39 New
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                And how to work poorly in Singapore ?! And then everyone is ready to have, as somewhere out there, but to give for this, as somewhere here! am
            2. boriz 16 November 2019 12: 37 New
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              I don’t know how old you are, but I and many millions of my peers have gone through just such a situation. True, we did our job well and had the right to count on the loyalty of our state. Tens of millions of people have been robbed of the life they were supposed to live. And after 20 years, the state began to experience an acute shortage of those specialists whom it itself had destroyed. Nobody spared us.
              Therefore, turning to me for sympathy for these people, you have come to the wrong place. They are still young and full of energy, they received the education they wanted. Let them work in the society that they built for 27 years. Everyone has initial capital.
              I'm not going to go anywhere, I was born here and lived 63 years. This is my land.
              And you - a suitcase - an airport - London (or Washington).
              1. Amin_vivec 16 November 2019 15: 44 New
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                It's sarcasm. I am under 40. People who want to like in Singapore have never been there, but for some reason they think that it is good only where we are not. This is my country. I am for reform, not revolution. And decisions like - let's fire everyone and make them like in Singapore - these are not decisions.
                1. boriz 17 November 2019 01: 55 New
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                  And where did I call for revolution? Not to go on maydauny? Naturally, no one will dismiss cleaners and supply managers.
                  First, power will transfer to another group, but this will not happen as a result of the Maidan. Then the purges will begin, they will leave useful people, the rest - to the exit. Moreover, the transition period will be made soft. If you stop paying tribute to the West, that's enough for everything.
                  1. Amin_vivec 17 November 2019 11: 21 New
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                    Simultaneously dismiss 120 thousand officials - this is a revolution, only a "revolution from above" and not from below. And it is fraught with the same maydauns of those who are offended and excommunicated from the feeders ... Despite the fact that they are people with connections, contacts, knowing how the system works, what decisions are made, what cash flows and where to go ... There will be not 120 thousand - and 12-15 thousand - but it will be a very active minority. And such sabotage is fraught with such people.
                    And the remaining 100 thousand - this is women over 45 who will find themselves below the poverty line without fitting in ...
                    For the rest, I agree with you.
                    1. boriz 17 November 2019 12: 15 New
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                      You read inattentively. 120 is only PF. And these must be dismissed completely. They are not needed ALL. The sane, 000 percent, will be left to transfer cases for a couple of years and will help with employment.
                      As for the rest of the officials, there are only about 1 of them. Not more than 500 are needed. Putin worked out the organization of transitional processes in the Crimea. You didn’t even notice it. During the transition of Crimea to the Russian Federation, ALL officials remained in place. Everything, because no preliminary work was conducted with them (for someone else's territory). And all 000 years, people were surprised why all the officials remained in place and noted that all the negative aspects of the transition to the Russian Federation are connected with the poor work of local officials. And recently, about 300 months ago, ALL heads of administrations in Crimea were dismissed. And there was no indignation. Apparently, a transitional period of 000 years for acclimatization was discussed with them in advance. It seems that no one showed himself on the positive side and fired everyone. Now they will deal with the lower level.
                      In the case of the Russian Federation, work on the assessment of current officials has been ongoing for a long time and, most likely, has been completed. A transitional period will follow. The most frostbitten will be fired immediately, for the rest they will organize a mild transition and assistance with employment.
                      Putin is not a stupid person at all, and by nature he is clearly not Yezhov. And certainly not a supporter of revolutions. And when the power passes to his team, tribute payments to the West will cease and there will be enough money for all these transitions.
            3. boriz 16 November 2019 12: 40 New
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              About 20 thousand salaries is just ridiculous.
            4. yawa63 29 November 2019 19: 22 New
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              Military pensions do not apply to the FIU
      2. EvilLion 19 November 2019 13: 57 New
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        No, you need to take away the keyboard from people like you. And then you are lying a lot of pain.
    6. Astra wild 15 November 2019 21: 28 New
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      And you yourself are not warped by words? It’s terrible for me as a woman that TENS THOUSAND CHILDREN will die there!
      But at the same time, I agree with you: "what does the author offer us? Money to restore and repair." There are a great many of them for his neighbors to repair.
      This is about the same if I say: "Throw me a renovation, otherwise I will flood the lower apartments"
    7. Slavs 15 November 2019 23: 52 New
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      You say it right .... Che is there to worry about them ... Only many people still have a wagon and the small cart lives there. But not with you. My mother lives in Zaporizhzhya region. Downstream the Dnieper. But nothing, let them die. A wonderful comment with a bunch of pluses)) From a whole major general .. Do you bring up children in the same spirit? That's how we live...
    8. exalibor 16 November 2019 06: 55 New
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      Why do we need to worry about Ukrainians?
      The salvation of drowning people (in the direct sense of the word) is the work of the drowning people themselves.

      and you forgot where the Dnieper flows into? Do you think that different chemistry and radioactive contamination from the Zaporizhzhya NPP will not reach the Crimea?
    9. aries2200 16 November 2019 16: 58 New
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      from tana they will come and gingerbread will heal the dam
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      Quote: demo
      Why do we need to worry about Ukrainians?
      The salvation of drowning people (in the direct sense of the word) is the work of the drowning people themselves.

      Maybe. Only this is not imperial thinking, but farm thinking.
  2. tihonmarine 15 November 2019 15: 19 New
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    And all this will definitely affect Russia, the consequences are too widespread: migration, epidemics, environmental conditions ...
    Well painted beautifully, right Armageddon. But it seems like the truth. Galloped, shouted, and forgot about the repair.
    1. Invoce 15 November 2019 15: 41 New
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      The "horses" do not know anything about the state of the infrastructure facilities of the Square. We are sure that as soon as the "Muscovites" cease to communicate with them, everything will become like in a movie about the USA or Europa ....
      "Puppeteers" and jockeys do not care! They are not going to live in Ukraine! Senya Krolik, an example of this ... An underdeveloped and unfinished "economist", was always in the shadows and did not dream of becoming someone higher than the deputy in the Rada ... But the suit trampled! Now Senya lives in the USA and he is a dollar billionaire ... and billions including from those funds that were “planned” to be used for DneproGES repair ... Download further expensive “non-brothers” fool
      1. tihonmarine 15 November 2019 16: 27 New
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        We are sure that as soon as the "Muscovites" cease to communicate with them, everything will become like in a movie about the USA or Europa ....

        South America is close to the states, but for some reason they do not live there like in the American states. That was what I needed to think about. And Europe, too, is not trying to help someone.
    2. Amurets 15 November 2019 16: 15 New
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      Quote: tihonmarine
      Well painted beautifully, right Armageddon.

      True or not. I don’t know, but I don’t wish anyone, not even the enemy, the floods that passed along the Amur River in 2013 and 2019, and these are not man-made disasters, but natural ones. So it’s good that the Zeyka Bureyskaya hydroelectric station dams withstood these floods, but even now people will eliminate the consequences of the August floods. And in the lower reaches, the area of ​​Komsomolsk, where the flood passed later, people still come to their senses.
      And remember the Sayano-Shushenskaya hydroelectric power station and the catastrophe on it, but already technogenic. So everyone will get it. Example: Sayano-Shushenskaya disaster:
      "The accident at the Sayano-Shushenskaya hydroelectric power station is an industrial technological disaster that occurred on August 17, 2009. The accident killed 75 people, the station’s equipment and premises were seriously damaged. The station’s production of electricity was suspended. The consequences of the accident affected the environmental situation in the water area adjacent to HPP, in the social and economic spheres of the region "https://www.webkursovik.ru/kartgotrab.asp?id=-70056
      1. Astra wild 15 November 2019 21: 35 New
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        I agree with you: like Armageddon, let him remain in fantasies, but in practice: "Save and save"
    3. aakvit 6 December 2019 13: 47 New
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      And it seems that there is only one way out - gradually open the slopes of the dams, lowering the level of reservoirs to the level of the river. True, in this case it is necessary to turn off all turbines, m. fill the machine rooms of stations downstream. Bad decision, yes! But it will completely avoid the environmental catastrophe and human casualties.
      Of course, at the same time, 404 must take energy somewhere! Well, USAA bros will help, in their pockets they will bring! good wassat
  3. Avior 15 November 2019 15: 23 New
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    The bridge over the Dnieper has nothing to do with the dam.
    The road there does not go along the top of the dam, but along the bridge that is built over the dam.
    Here with the bridge of the problem, it is overloaded, no one expected such a movement in the 30s of the last century.
    And with the dam, not the slightest.
    This is the third or fourth article with similar fiction in recent years.
    Why did it happen?
    1. nikolai.kolya 15 November 2019 15: 39 New
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      an overdose of Ukraine from the news from the telly ... or an autumn aggravation ...
      1. nikolai.kolya 15 November 2019 15: 41 New
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        After all, we have everything with the dams, and with bridges, and with everything else SUPER (again from the news, but in fact, who knows)
        1. syndicalist 15 November 2019 18: 54 New
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          The last 2 years almost every month there have been reports of "emergency" stops at Russian nuclear power plants. Messages from Russian news agencies. Has the author already been purchased with dosimeters?
    2. Invoce 15 November 2019 15: 43 New
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      Yes? belay and the bridge piers above the dam are not connected with the dam in any way? belay
      Looks like the author of the article is lying, complain about him!
      1. Avior 15 November 2019 15: 58 New
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        And the problems there are not with the supports and not with the dam, but with the roadway itself. But even if the bridge supports will have problems, this also has nothing to do with the dam. Everything is in order with her.
        1. Arthur 85 15 November 2019 16: 59 New
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          I would like to believe, but it seems to me that even Asirov did not have time to allocate grandmas for repairs to this cascade. And all the rest of the managers who didn’t need to yell at these dams, they stole.
          1. Avior 15 November 2019 17: 01 New
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            There, the repair is ongoing, all the time, it does not depend on every Azarov.
          2. rhino 16 November 2019 02: 42 New
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            Do not wishful thinking !!! The roadway on the dam has already been repaired. October 3, I went on a business trip to Zaporizhstal and moved around the power plant. One lane was 100% ready, the second 50/50. The work was in full swing and Asirov and Co. had nothing to do with it.
            P.S. The dam body is 100 (one hundred) times more powerful than the calculated value. Therefore, she will never break through herself.
    3. tihonmarine 15 November 2019 16: 30 New
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      This is the third or fourth article with similar fiction in recent years.

      Fiction or not, but it would be nice to know that in reality.
      1. Avior 15 November 2019 16: 40 New
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        That's what
        https://www.061.ua/news/2541236/dorogu-cerez-plotinu-dneproges-oficialno-otkryli-remont-oboselsa-v-100-millionov-foto
      2. beeper 16 November 2019 00: 49 New
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        In one place on the body of the dam, such a noticeable vertical crack was visible even ten years ago.
        About two years ago, American military engineers, for their military purposes (like the European infrastructure, with special emphasis on bridges and roads of Germany, Poland and the Baltic, leading to the Russian borders!), Inspected, studied bridges and dams on the Dnieper and gave the same (even more scrupulous and thoroughly substantiated for specific "objects") disappointing forecast, as in the current Article, no discrepancies!
        1. tihonmarine 16 November 2019 12: 31 New
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          special emphasis on bridges and roads of Germany, Poland and the Tribaltics, leading towards the Russian borders!

          Roads to ports and strategic roads in perfect condition, with bridges and viaducts. I see this on the example of the Estonian Leningrad highway (to Narva) and the Tallinn-Paldiski highway.
          1. beeper 16 November 2019 15: 18 New
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            American military experts, according to the results of large-scale “test runs” (remember European photographs and videos with numerous accidents at the same time “Abramsami” and “Bradley” crashed from bridges, like, one of them, transported by a tank tractor, even demolished the tower “oversized “over the span of either a German or Polish bridge ?!)”, two years ago they were very dissatisfied with the throughput of German and Polish-Baltic roads and viaducts (as applied to the movement of large columns of large American armored vehicles) and the “complex logistics” of moving them "expeditionary forces", equipment and cargo on their territory (likely frontal field) towards the borders of Russia! Expressed to the authorities of these NATO member countries their demands to bring the condition of roads and bridges to an acceptable state!
            It is possible that these requirements of American “hegemons” by European vassals have now been fulfilled and that European communications have already been prepared for the most unhindered movement of the Fashington “forces of the New Order” and the transportation of supplies for an impending attack on the Russian Federation ?!
        2. tihonmarine 16 November 2019 12: 33 New
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          inspected, studied the bridges and dams on the Dnieper and gave the same (even more meticulous and detailed justification for specific "objects") disappointing forecast, as in the current Article, no discrepancies!

          Well, now everything is clear. Thanks.
      3. rhino 16 November 2019 02: 43 New
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        In fact, everything is in order with the dam. Problems periodically arise with the roadway.
    4. Astra wild 15 November 2019 21: 38 New
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      And vior, I venture to suggest that this is in retaliation for Ukrainian predictions that the Crimean bridge will fall.
      1. frog 15 November 2019 23: 31 New
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        I don’t know how about revenge, but it would be interesting to read a similar work about the condition of ours and even the dams. About everything - well, a lot ..... But, I'm afraid we don’t see such work here. As we will not see so enthusiastic comments. Why's that?
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    Dneproges will wash everything down to Kherson inclusive, it was modeled. And then - a gypsy with an exit - there from some epidemics it will become fun.
    True, there is such an option that a piece will fall off from DneproGES, the rest will not slam — and this has already been modeled twice — by our and the Germans in real life, then Zaporozhye was a little flooded, but nothing was washed away. BUT! Then it was a new building, and now - junk. So there the dam array also can work as a mudflow. In addition, there were fewer people during the war.
    1. tihonmarine 15 November 2019 18: 05 New
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      Then it was a new building, and now - junk.

      Well, yes there is a tensile strength to everything, time sharpens concrete. And then a whole cascade of dams.
  5. midshipman 15 November 2019 15: 40 New
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    I often had to be in different parts of the country. As a cadet in 1955 he passed on the LBC them. Stalin. The practice was on a patrol ship. I was surprised and saw everything with my own eyes. Then he wrote the story "Destroy the enemy by the explosion of the dam."
    So in December 1941 parts of the Karelian Front were forced to retreat from Medvezhyegorsk, the Finnish Tank Battalion occupied the city. Parts of the Red Army retreated to the right bank of the canal and at night blew up the first BBK platinum. A four meter wave washed away the Finns and equipment into Lake Onega. The front then froze until 1944. The Finns were afraid to take at least one step into our territory. Read the Ukrainians story in the "VO". Maybe wiser.
    1. Avior 15 November 2019 15: 55 New
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      In 1941, the Dnieper looked like this.

      Indeed, a shaft of water passed, the coastal areas closest to the dam suffered, crossing the Dnieper with our retreating washed away.

      But then tens of tons of explosives were blown up in the rock tunnel under the Dnieper Hydroelectric Station, a hole a hundred meters in the dam instantly turned out to be.

      When the Germans blew up during the retreat, ours were not allowed to explode to the fullest, so the consequences for the coast were much smaller.
      But all this has nothing to do with the current situation; everything is in order with the dam.
      1. tihonmarine 15 November 2019 18: 07 New
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        But all this has nothing to do with the current situation; everything is in order with the dam.

        Concrete is not eternal either. Maybe you have data on how many years the oldest Dnieper hydroelectric station will stand idle?
        1. Avior 15 November 2019 20: 28 New
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          I heard that at least 50 years still, subject to maintenance and checks, of course.
          I know that the bridge over the dam, which is actually going to be completely changed in 1932, as soon as the bridges across the Dnieper are completed.
          Of course, he won’t stand forever, everything’s due.
          1. tihonmarine 15 November 2019 20: 54 New
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            I heard that at least 50 years still, subject to maintenance and checks, of course.

            I, too, wondered, all the same, they used to be built for centuries and for decades.
            1. UAZ 452 16 November 2019 22: 09 New
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              So the question is: built for centuries, for a century, or for decades? Decades, if anything, have already passed, a century will soon be, and if centuries (in the plural), then non-brothers can not soar (and we don’t have any reason to worry about the Dnieper dams in any case - they are full on our rivers, and it’s unlikely in the best condition).
    2. Jerk 15 November 2019 15: 57 New
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      Read reports on the millions of dead Red Army soldiers and peacekeepers in the explosion of the hydroelectric station. Source - ONLY Pedovikia and Goebbels propaganda, there are no real reports even from the Germans, those from the Armed Forces. You might be wiser. The dam can be blown off in different ways.
      [media = https: //www.ntv.ru/video/1396020/]
      1. Avior 15 November 2019 16: 11 New
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        About millions of dead, this is complete nonsense.
        Nobody has ever written this.
        1. nikolai.kolya 15 November 2019 16: 40 New
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          an overdose of Ukraine not only with the author, but also with commentators ...
        2. tihonmarine 15 November 2019 18: 14 New
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          Quote: Avior
          About millions of dead, this is complete nonsense.

          This is too much. My first wife, my mother lived on the island of Khortytsya in 1941 year.
        3. Jerk 15 November 2019 19: 53 New
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          About the crossings then tell about which you just talked about? Who was crossing where? And why no one saw these losses anywhere and no one took them into account? Ah, obsikp?
          1. Alex_59 18 November 2019 07: 39 New
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            About the crossings then tell about which you just talked about?

            The ferry in those years was a bridge made of boards across the river in inflatable rubber boats. By the way, even the modern PPS pontoon bridge can be destroyed by increasing the flow velocity by a couple of extra meters per second. And the bridges of those years were torn even easier - they were not metal. Therefore, "washed away the crossing" does not mean that everyone was covered by a giant wave and all died. This means that in a couple of hours at the bridge the flow rate increased by a couple of meters per second and the water level rose by a couple of meters. Seamlessly, not instantly. And that’s all - the bridge cannot be held, the crossing is broken. Dead? Well, maybe some sergeant drowned by accident.
        4. beeper 16 November 2019 01: 10 New
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          It seems that I, the popularizer of the British version of the Second World War, the fugitive GRUshnik “Viktor Suvorov”, painted this “apocalypse of undermining the Dnieper hydroelectric dam” ?!
          I don’t remember how many Britons there hundreds of thousands of flood victims painted, I have long read and re-read it somehow does not pull!
          There was a recent article (on a related date) on the tuning fork about the same dam blast and its consequences, with a significantly smaller, more realistic number of victims.
          1. Avior 16 November 2019 18: 11 New
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            About hundreds of thousands of the same nonsense, as about the millions that were stated above.
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              Well, this, from MI5’s filing, “Pravdokol Suvorov”, like, he painted in his “works” - so I remember this “apocalyptic oil painting”, is it really not the first ?!
              And so, more real numbers, not “hundreds of thousands” in any way, were in the article on the Tuning Fork recently ?!
      2. Alex_59 18 November 2019 07: 46 New
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        Read reports on the millions of dead Red Army soldiers and peacekeepers during the explosion of the hydroelectric station.

        No need to read anything. You just had to skip physics at school. And to memorize that water does not compress, it is impossible to shove through a hole in a dam (even if many meters in size) so much mass of liquid to create a wave with a front several meters high. Actually, through the hole that was formed as a result of the blasting, water gradually, over the course of many hours, filled the space downstream, raising the water level in the river at a very low speed. There could be no visible “wave” - there was a smooth increase in the level, as in the spring flood. Perhaps above critical levels - yes, probably someone was flooded along the shore. Someone did not have time to leave. Someone found the rise of water at night. The dead were probably. But not millions, not even thousands.
  6. Amateur 15 November 2019 15: 41 New
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    What do we need? Let the skakuases themselves understand. we should be as much concerned with them as with the Amazon jungle.
    1. Amin_vivec 15 November 2019 17: 02 New
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      Do we need it? We are now offered this "leaky asset" with all its problems to buy $ 100 billion)))) Well, what will we take? almost for nothing)))))))
      1. Amateur 15 November 2019 17: 43 New
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        What for? Let it be so "non-laid" in lace shorts. Let the EuroSoy grandma pay for the restoration.
      2. aakvit 6 December 2019 13: 58 New
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        Do you need it ?! Restore again, invest, fix, - and again enemies and scum! WHAT FOR?!!!! angry
        1. Amin_vivec 7 December 2019 20: 33 New
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          I agree with you. Ukraine is a bankrupt company - to take and invest is at a loss. You can cut into pieces for free, take yourself the best, sell the rest.
  7. Berkut24 15 November 2019 15: 48 New
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    I think that it will be very correct if, in spite of our relations, the Russian Foreign Ministry expresses regret and concern.
    1. Crimean partisan 1974 17 November 2019 05: 52 New
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      expresses regret and concern ....... the Russian Foreign Ministry !!!!!! yes this is not what. it’s enough that Marishka Zakharova expresses regret and concern on her facebook and business is cheap and cheerful
  8. Operator 15 November 2019 16: 11 New
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    What kind of threat are we talking about - like Outskirts will be flushed into the toilet? laughing

    If the dam of the Kiev reservoir collapses, a wave with bottom sediments containing radioactive elements washed away by rains from the territory of the Chernobyl zone will go down the Dnieper. After that, the people of Kiev and other suburbs will be able to save a lot of money on lighting, since they will glow like electric bulbs.
    1. Arthur 85 15 November 2019 17: 05 New
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      Well, I swam in that reservoir, and although not young anymore, it is alive and does not glow.
      1. Anton Yu 15 November 2019 18: 37 New
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        People in Pripyat near the nuclear power plant bathe. You can’t talk in the cooler pond, Yanovsky backwater and other lakes.
        1. Arthur 85 15 November 2019 18: 46 New
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          Well, except for jokes. During it, I traveled on a bike on both banks of the reservoir, from Sukholuchy on the right bank, to the eerie village of Rowy (or Rovzhi, I forgot) on the left. I climbed there many times in the winter on ice, and in the summer I sailed, but nothing happened to me. This, of course, is not an indicator. But besides me, people still went there. And it seems even alive.
          1. Operator 15 November 2019 19: 27 New
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            Radioactive dust in the bottom sediments of the Kiev reservoir is metals (uranium, plutonium, cesium, etc.) and graphite, i.e. substances heavier than water. Their radiation is quenched by a layer of water. After ejection from the bottom of the reservoir and getting into the air, the dust will begin to light up and be carried by the wind.
            1. Arthur 85 15 November 2019 19: 39 New
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              When breaking the Vyshgorod dam, they both lay at the bottom and will lie. It would be if a tsunami came from Belarus, then of course. The second one. Radiation is a thing in itself. Water cannot "quench" radiation, except for gamma (nothing can quench it). The fragments of the nuclei will be inhibited by a layer of water, and remain in it. If their half-life Over is infinite, then it’s not scary, if not, then it would be better for them without water, because they will still decay, whether in the atmosphere or in water ... (neutrons, in turn, can transfer oxygen to another unhealthy isotope, but here you need to read). In general, if the coastal villagers have not mutated for 30 years, then there is nothing terrible there at the bottom.
              1. Operator 15 November 2019 19: 53 New
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                The flux of thermal neutrons from the decay of radioactive elements is quenched by a layer of water one and a half meters or one and a half km layer of air.

                If the dam of the Kiev reservoir is washed to the bottom, then the bottom sediments will be carried out in the form of mudflow.
                1. Arthur 85 15 November 2019 20: 04 New
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                  Thermal. Well, it doesn’t matter. Yet again. An element can "extinguish" a neutron only in one way - to accept it as part of its core, becoming an isotope. Stable or not. However, there are no stable isotopes; there are isotopes with a half-life that has not yet been measured. It, an isotope of oxygen or hydrogen from the composition of water, can be more or less "harmful" than an isotope lying at the bottom, or raised in the form of a dry suspension. But as he wrote, I’m not ready to discuss it now ...
                  The breakthrough, I think, will be in a narrow area, gradually expanding to the sides. This practically does not affect the total mass of bottom water.
                  1. Operator 15 November 2019 20: 08 New
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                    At first, neutrons slow down in collisions with hydrogen atoms that make up water molecules, and then merge with the nuclei of these atoms, synthesizing deuterium from a protium (stable isotope).
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                      Wildly sorry (drank, sir). Due to electroneutrality, a neutron cannot slow down, but can only crash into atomic nuclei (fall into the sphere of meson / nuclear interaction), and, in fact, form a proton-neutron bond with a hydrogen nucleus (proton), i.e. , the nucleus of an atom of deuterium. But it is in full gallop. That is, without braking.
                      1. Operator 15 November 2019 20: 16 New
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                        No - scientific slowdown (that is, tangential collisions) is called "neutron scattering on atomic nuclei."

                        Until tomorrow laughing
                      2. Arthur 85 15 November 2019 20: 19 New
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                        Well, I will not argue with scientists. I feel that 0,5 + 1/2 is a liter, but I can’t prove it repeat
                    2. Astra wild 15 November 2019 21: 48 New
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                      Dear colleagues: Arthur 85 and Operator, leave your dispute to specialists
    2. frog 15 November 2019 23: 33 New
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      That master loves to purgate))))
  • Prisoner 15 November 2019 16: 14 New
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    Are there any bridges to your bridges, when all thoughts of how soon Kerchinsky will collapse there. It is not difficult to start the economy, it is difficult to restore.
  • Alien From 15 November 2019 16: 43 New
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    But a serious topic was raised in the article ..... the Soviet past is melting and without decommunization ..... there will be no brothers with such troubles one on one, a striped hand will not help .... and the consequences will be catastrophic .... (
    1. Amin_vivec 15 November 2019 17: 07 New
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      Ukraine is gradually turning into a radioactive Ruin, without production, flooded with illegal weapons and bandits on every corner, and embittered by the population ... But what next ???
      And then this territory will be steeped in Russia by hook or by crook ...
      1. rhino 16 November 2019 02: 50 New
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        Discover the source from which you draw such scientific data ???
        1. Amin_vivec 16 November 2019 09: 50 New
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          this well is my inflamed, sick, neurotic brain, and these are just his speculations based on an assessment of objective reality)))
          By the way, Kolomoisky has already begun to bargain, asks for 100 billion greens))))
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            I would be in your place for a dissertation ...
  • samarin1969 15 November 2019 17: 02 New
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    Yellowstone ... The author is working on options for "winter is near."

    I do not feel the slightest sympathy for the Kiev regime. But after the shots from the Sayano-Shushenskaya hydroelectric station, writing about the problems of the Dnieper Hydroelectric Power Plant is simply ... "unwise".
    1. rhino 16 November 2019 02: 52 New
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      It is necessary to write that the public would put pressure on the government. The author simply confuses the dam body with the roadbed, which periodically needs to be overhauled.
  • fa2998 15 November 2019 17: 20 New
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    Quote: lexus
    Throw money to restore or repair?

    I propose to send them the Irkutsk governor and his "team." For good.

    I propose to send ALL the government of the Russian Federation, and large "specialists" such as the management of Rusnano laughing
    But seriously, such a powerful cascade of hydroelectric power stations was calculated on the powerful economy of the Ukrainian SSR. Project 3/4 consumers have already sunk into oblivion, the population has halved, yes they can safely lower the most emergency facilities. hi
  • Monster_Fat 15 November 2019 17: 22 New
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    Another article from the series “look how bad it is in Ukraine”, and this is against the backdrop of disasters with floods and “illegal” dams in Russia itself this year. There is also a “muddy” story with the washed away Crimean. Obviously, in order to smooth out the “sediment” among Russian citizens after the water disasters of this and previous years, similar articles are written, such as “look, Ukraine will be washed away in general soon” .... People are happy, judging by the comments, on “ how bad in Ukraine "is no longer being conducted ... at all.
  • Chaldon48 15 November 2019 18: 09 New
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    Let the European Union cough up if it does not want to have a new Chernobyl.
  • xax
    xax 15 November 2019 18: 48 New
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    I don’t find fault, just for the general outlook, otherwise the rumor cuts a little:

    Dam.
    A hydraulic structure in the form of an embankment to protect the territory from floods, to protect artificial ponds and watercourses, for directional deflection of the water flow


    Dam.
    A water-retaining structure blocking the watercourse and its valley to raise the water level.


    Source: GOST 19185-73 "Hydrotechnics. Basic concepts. Terms and definitions."

    You are talking about dams.
  • Flatter 15 November 2019 18: 53 New
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    They won’t fall apart right away. They will open plums, gradually lower the reservoir level. Dam of the hydroelectric power station is very durable. At Bratskoye, I remember, the chief engineer noticed that he could withstand the atomic bomb explosion, more powerful than Hiroshima.
  • Rostislav 15 November 2019 19: 22 New
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    There is no desire to help dill with repair, but if something happens, God forbid, they will ask for help from everyone. And how will Russia look if it refuses to help with such a disaster? So money and equipment will go there. If only the Maidan will not be in a pose. Although unlikely (they will refuse to warm their hands on humanitarian aid).
  • Kars 15 November 2019 19: 47 New
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    Fairy tales))
    And these tales have been around for many years. Especially about the 20 meter wave.
  • Brigadier 15 November 2019 21: 00 New
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    "And all this will definitely affect Russia, the consequences are too widespread: migration, epidemics, environmental conditions... "

    Given the hatred of the current Bandera Ukraine towards the Russians, I propose, when this happens, to put as many lines of the border barrier as possible on the border and extremely tough suppress all attempts to illegally break refugees from there.
    And let into Russia only those who are not messed up with crimes against Russians!

    Bandera and their henchmen to us ENEMIES!
    And so we will 100% stop Bandera migration to Russia and epidemics.
    And we will fight the ecological disaster on the fact of its presence.

    If anyone believes that this is a too tough option, then let him remember what these Bandera creatures have been doing with the Russians since 2014, when they fell into them, and all stupid thoughts disappear ...
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    DPN 15 November 2019 21: 26 New
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    They don’t really threaten anyone who threatened the monuments erected with the exception of Belarus, the old man showed a cry for a living wage and TV. So, it’s easier to rule the people offended.
  • Sancho_SP 15 November 2019 21: 53 New
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    Well, I painted ...

    In extreme cases, you will have to stop generating electricity and slowly lower the reservoir. Yes, this is the loss of generation, shipping (where left) and agricultural water supply. This is bad, but not once a tsunami.
  • begemot20091 15 November 2019 23: 53 New
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    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
    Most of those who disagree in Ukraine are poor people, but in order to move you need money plus the issue of housing. Not everything is as simple as you think.

    you think so. For 20 years my wife said: - let's go home, to Russia. we are not at home. We were reminded of this regularly. and especially after the 90s. and ..... especially the poor, envious. and the higher I went, the more this envy, this hatred. constant whining: "we feed the Russians." and this is back in the Soviet years and not at all western Ukraine. I do not wish them harm, but let them go their own way. and the farther the better. and I don’t feel sorry for them. they themselves chose this road. and I am in my Russia. Horseradish without salt do not eat up. Children grew up, grandchildren grow up. And when, when I am abroad, I see "these comrades" cleaning the streets, porches - I do not gloat, but I also do not regret it. This is their karma. It will be better to live, God forbid. PS And let the pots be removed.
  • ochakow703 16 November 2019 05: 11 New
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    A similar article about Russia can be written. And based on how much they steal from us, you can use this one, only change the geography.
    PS Yesterday I talked with the guys, volunteers - that they came from the Irkutsk region. You know, inspired by ...
  • oracul 16 November 2019 06: 49 New
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    The situation is almost full-time - thunder will strike, Ukraine will cross itself and begin to ask the EU and not only its help. And what not to get used to: Chernobyl is an example of this. I have no doubt that they will resort to Russia for help. They will remember that there’s no one, but relatives. Only a condition should be the requirement that all Natsiks and other husks infected with nationalism should pack their bags, move to Europe and no longer poison Ukraine with their presence.
  • Evil 55 16 November 2019 07: 06 New
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    Apocalypse "in Ukrainian" .. It's time to shoot the movie "mattresses", with Bruce Willis and Olga Kurylenko in the title role ..
    1. Avior 16 November 2019 18: 14 New
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      Olga Kurylenko Zaporizhzhya, from Berdyansk.
      Is Bruce Willis the same of those places? smile
  • pafegosoff 16 November 2019 07: 42 New
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    “For example, a homegrown scientist and hydrologist engineer Yuri Medovar said that he“ visited the Dnieper hydroelectric station ”and was convinced that it was a“ colossal structure ”, and therefore there was nothing to be afraid of. After these words, he felt even more uneasy, because Medovar is an old, ardent oppositionist, an “apple-maker” and one of the prophets of “the destruction of the Crimean bridge immediately after putting it into operation.”
    This “specialist” does not know the elementary features: bridges in Japan, China, and California — places of extreme seismic activity.
    I am a small specialist in bridge demolition. I was taught in the 1970s to drop bombs and smash such objects. The hardest thing is to destroy the bridge. Then, after aviation, he worked on the railway. And in particular, with bridges. By the way, I am not only familiar with hydrologists, but I also worked. With real hydrologists, with forty years of experience. Mead ... Let mead cook ...
  • Mixweb 16 November 2019 07: 46 New
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    I read the series of books "Nobody’s Land" by Jan Valetov. About life in central Ukraine after the destruction of the dam near Kiev. The author also applies to Russia. Very well written, but also very sad. If anyone can master 4 volumes, I recommend reading it.
    1. Greenwood 17 November 2019 13: 02 New
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      "Nobody's Land" by Jan Valetov
      Thank. It will be necessary to read. good
  • kartalovkolya 16 November 2019 08: 23 New
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    It is sad to read screams about this and that, but I want to remind everyone of one thought expressed by someone: "However, capitalism, but what did you expect from the most heinous world order", so dear fellow citizens, for which they fought and ran into .. .
  • akims 16 November 2019 11: 16 New
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    The idea is just clear. How the United States in Syria takes control of oil so that the igil does not get. And here it’s generally tsymes: ukroreich does not control the situevina with state district power plants, nuclear power plants, etc., which will lead to genocide, a big balabum, a global schukher and complete tukhis, which FORCES us to send troops to protect palm trees from monkeys. Further, a note to the whole world and every now and then ... It just won’t be like that, it would be good to keep your palms.
  • evgen1221 16 November 2019 16: 22 New
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    The time of heroic elimination of emergencies throughout the country as a Chernobyl accident has passed. They are independent, which means that even let them not depend on the help of our country in liquidating their emergency situations on their territory, because it’s not necessary.
  • aries2200 16 November 2019 16: 57 New
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    Vasily Ivanovich ... you promise and promise everything (anka machine gunner) as soon as possible (resident of Russia)
  • Petrol cutter 16 November 2019 19: 46 New
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    What am I supposed to do with this ?! Apparently, as an ex-Ukrainian, run and plug the cracks in UA dams with his "stern" ?! And in all. As the article shows. I alone will not hold. Don't go to grandma ...
  • Undecim 16 November 2019 20: 36 New
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    news about the next fall of the bridge, the collapse of the house, the failure of the asphalt surface of the road, the malfunction of the nuclear power plant, etc.
    Yes, any number.

    S. PETERSBURG, September 17 - RIA Novosti. A road bridge across the Nevedryanka River collapsed near the village of Tolkachevo in the south of the Pskov Region, one person was injured, the bridge will be repaired in 2020, the press service of the regional government reports.
    The first, second, and fourth power units of the Kalinin NPP in the Tver region are disconnected from the network due to a transformer accident, the Rosenergoatom press service said on July 18.07.19, XNUMX
    YEKATERINBURG, November 13, 2019, 04:03 - REGNUM In the capital of the Middle Urals, part of the facade of the building under construction on Kosmonavtov Avenue collapsed. It is reported by IA Zna
    MOSCOW, September 18, 2019, 19:19 - REGNUM Asphalt on the pedestrian part of the street collapsed in the Central Administrative District of Moscow on September 18, a REGNUM correspondent reports from the scene
    Eight settlements of the Altai Territory may be flooded due to an emergency dam built in the XNUMXth century on Lake Beloye.
    Currently, the territory of the Kuryinsky district has a high alert mode. An emergency regime has been introduced at the hydraulic structure located within the boundaries of the Kolyvan village council. 05.07.19/XNUMX/XNUMX

    And another quote about propagandists below the average.
    “It is easy to see the sins of others, while your own, on the contrary, is difficult to see. For the sins of others are scattered like husks; they, on the contrary, hide their own, like a skilled cheater, an unhappy bone. "- Siddhartha Gautama (Buddha)
    1. Golovan Jack 16 November 2019 21: 06 New
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      Quote: Undecim
      It is easy to see the sins of others, while yours, on the contrary, is difficult to see. For the sins of others are scattered like husks; their own, on the contrary, hide, like a skillful sharpie an unhappy bone

      Than the gossips to consider, to work,
      Isn't it better to pour on yourself, godfather, turn around?

      Curius, you are funny at times yes
  • UAZ 452 16 November 2019 21: 55 New
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    There would be to understand their infrastructure, and as for the Ukrainian ... Now, if the Dnieper flowed from Ukraine to Russia, then it would be worth worrying about the destruction of the dams on it, but since the wave in the case of the destruction of dams could not flood due to geography , then let the brothers themselves deal with this problem. In our country, their roofs are higher.
    And if the author wants to provide international assistance to the fraternal and non-brotherly people, then he has every right to manage his personal finances - even if he does.
  • Bear040 17 November 2019 04: 30 New
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    To collect all Bandera and Basmachi in Russia and send them there like Mumu ... You can start with the sick Russophobia alcoholic Sobchak ... And there, even if they repair, even drown, I do not care ...
  • dmitrich 17 November 2019 06: 11 New
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    and finally, water will come to the Crimea!
  • 75 Sergey 17 November 2019 14: 45 New
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    Duck there is capitalism, let the state district power station companies raise tariffs, and the free money that appears will be used for modernization.
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    There is a solution to the problem. It is necessary to turn the Dnieper from Banderstadt, as Luzhkov suggested and all matters. And the outskirts will not be flooded and water will be added to Crimea and there will be no disaster.
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    Increasingly, news comes from Ukraine about the next fall of the bridge, the collapse of the house, the failure of the asphalt pavement of the road - something is not heard so that their cars with passengers completely fall into the pit with boiling water.