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In Israel, it was suggested that the "discovered Russian submarine" acted with intelligence purposes

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Israeli media continue to “chronicle” the discovery of a “Russian submarine” a few nautical miles from Tel Aviv. Recall that the discovery of “a Russian submarine about three months ago by an Israeli missile corvette” was reported on the eve by Ynet (“VO” reported this in one of yesterday’s News).


On its pages it was stated that the Russian Navy submarine "entered deep into the territorial waters of Israel" - at a distance of about 15 km from the Israeli coast in the area of ​​the Tel Aviv Gush-Dan agglomeration.

Following this report, Israeli reporters announced that "this was not a mistake, but was targeted intelligence."

The Israeli media wrote that "a Russian submarine could collect information about the forces operating in the territorial waters of Israel, as well as about gas fields." It is added that "the Russian submarine was underwater"
Statements about the collection of information do not stand up to criticism. The Israeli press has not reported since when it was decided to use naval submarines to study gas fields in foreign countries fleet. And to obtain data on the naval forces operating in the territorial waters of Israel, it would be no less strange to use a submarine, given the banal fact: the composition of the Israeli Navy (which by definition cannot bypass the territorial waters of Israel) is known from open sources, including the same Israeli media.

The Israeli press additionally states that on board the IDF Navy missile corvette there was special equipment in the form of detectors "allowing to detect submarines."

Partly reminiscent of the famous Swedish history with a search for a Russian submarine and with a photograph showing an incomprehensible object in the waters near Stockholm. Then tens of millions of dollars were spent searching.

The Russian Ministry of Defense does not comment on publications in the Israeli media that announced that "the Russian submarine acted with intelligence purposes."
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  1. Same lech
    Same lech 13 November 2019 07: 18 New
    +24
    On its pages it was stated that the Russian Navy submarine “entered deep into the territorial waters of Israel” - at a distance of about 15 km

    Already 15 km ... they’re giving ... and yesterday it was 8 km ... the day before yesterday 2 km ... tomorrow you see our submarines will emerge in Jerusalem ... well, the Jews ... well, you give.
    Why Burkova Americans were given ... fiends.
    1. Volodin
      Volodin 13 November 2019 07: 20 New
      +3
      Quote: The same Lech
      Already 15 km ... in give ... and yesterday it was 8 km ... the day before yesterday 2 km

      Yesterday was "8 nautical miles", which is about 15 km.
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 13 November 2019 07: 22 New
        +11
        "8 nautical miles" = 12,9 km ... they still lie ... but why don’t you indicate in centimeters ... the number of what will turn out.
        1. Volodin
          Volodin 13 November 2019 07: 24 New
          +9
          Quote: The same Lech
          "8 nautical miles" = 12,9 km ... they still lie ..

          They are lying, maybe they are lying, but 8 nautical miles = 14,82 km
          1. Same lech
            Same lech 13 November 2019 07: 26 New
            -11
            1 mile = 1.61 km
            Multiply by 8 = 12,9 km ... where the rest has gone. what
            1. Volodin
              Volodin 13 November 2019 07: 29 New
              +21
              Quote: The same Lech
              1 mile = 1.61 km
              Multiply by 8 = 12,9 km ... where the rest has gone.

              Alexei, what is this strange debate about when it’s not about the "mile", but about the "sea mile" (which is 1,852 km)? ..
              1. Same lech
                Same lech 13 November 2019 07: 30 New
                +8
                I agree ... hi I fool around ... sorry for the childishness.
              2. Chaldon48
                Chaldon48 13 November 2019 07: 51 New
                +2
                I understand when a battle unit is sometimes found and reconnaissance targets are attributed to it, then not far from the place where it was discovered there should be some important object that the reconnaissance scout should have examined. What could be in the place where our submarine was "discovered" if it was there with a risk to life. The Vorshavyanka gas field could not examine it for sure, then what?
              3. Polite Moose
                Polite Moose 13 November 2019 08: 05 New
                +19
                Quote: Volodin
                Alexei, why this strange debate when it comes not to the “mile”, but to the “sea mile” (which is 1,852 km)?

                And, taking into account the features of some of the national rites of Israel, their mile may be a little bit shorter. laughing
        2. 22 dmdc
          22 dmdc 13 November 2019 14: 05 New
          0
          8 nautical miles = 12,9 km.
          Maritime Mile is a unit of distance used in navigation and aviation. According to the modern definition adopted at the International Hydrographic Conference in Monaco in 1929, the International Nautical Mile is exactly 1852 meters.
          Arithmetic is really bad.
    2. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 13 November 2019 07: 23 New
      -7
      At VO there is nothing more to discuss than gossip in the Israeli media? recourse
      1. Volodin
        Volodin 13 November 2019 07: 24 New
        +29
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        At VO there is nothing more to discuss than gossip in the Israeli media?

        Well, Israeli users always have something to discuss in the Russian military, is not it ...
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 13 November 2019 07: 26 New
          0
          Quote: Volodin
          Quote: Aaron Zawi
          At VO there is nothing more to discuss than gossip in the Israeli media?

          Well, Israeli users always have something to discuss at the Russian military, is not it ...

          No, it's not true. There are very few topics that are interesting to discuss.
          1. Volodin
            Volodin 13 November 2019 07: 32 New
            +20
            Quote: Aaron Zawi
            No, it's not true. There are very few topics that are interesting to discuss.

            Well, "call me, lads," if you are interested in topics about the "bloody aggression of Iran in the Universe", then this is to the Israeli media.
          2. aszzz888
            aszzz888 13 November 2019 08: 13 New
            +10
            Aaron Zawi (Aaron) Today, 07: 26
            -1
            Quote: Volodin
            Quote: Aaron Zawi
            At VO there is nothing more to discuss than gossip in the Israeli media?

            Well, Israeli users always have something to discuss at the Russian military, is not it ...

            No, it's not true. There are very few topics that are interesting to discuss.

            And who holds)) on the VO? laughing Big bazaar, go choose ... bully
          3. Letun
            Letun 13 November 2019 08: 33 New
            +13
            Quote: Aaron Zawi
            Quote: Volodin
            Quote: Aaron Zawi
            At VO there is nothing more to discuss than gossip in the Israeli media?

            Well, Israeli users always have something to discuss at the Russian military, is not it ...

            No, it's not true. There are very few topics that are interesting to discuss.

            You directly gave hope lol But I doubt that you will become less here. On Israeli forums, why aren’t you talking? Is there a problem with the native language? tongue
          4. Cottodraton
            Cottodraton 13 November 2019 10: 43 New
            +3
            Let's discuss the future of stock exchanges in the context of the emergence of the cryptocurrency era!
      2. Same lech
        Same lech 13 November 2019 07: 27 New
        +11
        At VO there is nothing more to discuss than gossip in the Israeli media?

        Let's talk about Burkov ... why did they plant such a pig to him.
        1. valeryb
          valeryb 13 November 2019 19: 07 New
          -4
          Quote: The same Lech
          Let's talk about Burkov ... why did they plant such a pig to him.

          And why not about Maria Lazareva?
      3. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose 13 November 2019 08: 13 New
        +14
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        At VO there is nothing more to discuss than gossip in the Israeli media?

        Aron! Well, for once, WE TO YOU ?! Such a topic !!! fellow
      4. Pytnik
        Pytnik 13 November 2019 09: 01 New
        +12
        Let's discuss yesterday in Israel, more than 300 missile launches from Palestine and, as always, “0% of launches are“ intercepted ”by your dome, only the pictures on TV say otherwise, it seems that Palestinians have gotten better rockets wink
        1. Vitaly gusin
          Vitaly gusin 13 November 2019 17: 45 New
          -1
          Quote: Pytnik
          Let's discuss yesterday in Israel, over 300 missile launches

          Yes it's true
          And all the rest is a lie
          About half of them fell in an uninhabited area, the rest were shot down by the Iron Dome missile defense system, the percentage of successful interceptions was 90%.
          As we reported earlier, several missiles hit the yards and buildings in the settlements, one missile fell on highway number 4, causing damage to two cars.
          According to the Red Magendavid service, by 19:00, 46 people were injured as a result of the shelling.
          All injuries were minor, most received them in the fall, rushing to shelter, many needed help due to a nervous shock. Two people were injured by fragments of explosions, but also not too seriously.
          1. Pytnik
            Pytnik 13 November 2019 18: 18 New
            +4
            Well, what else to tell your authorities to reassure citizens ??? the truth is impossible ... dozens of settlements under fire and that’s Hamas hasn’t turned on .... your site http://newsru.co.il and that’s true + people in the social network post the effects of shelling, the iron dome can not cope 90% on the strength of 40 .... hi
            1. Vitaly gusin
              Vitaly gusin 13 November 2019 19: 33 New
              -8
              Quote: Pytnik
              Well, what else to tell your authorities to reassure citizens ??? the truth

              Dear, please do not compare the attitude of the authorities towards the common people where you live.
              WE HAVE ANY TIME TO OBTAIN FOR HIDDEN ANYTHING OF OFFICIAL FACTS.
              I understand you, it’s hard for you to understand how propaganda can produce 350 missiles in Israel and there are no THANKS to GOD victims.
              Israel is not Voronezh.
              1. Pytnik
                Pytnik 13 November 2019 23: 11 New
                +3
                And where does respected Voronezh? I don’t need your sacrifices, I’m for the truth, you are too confident in your safety and the “power” of your army and security services, and the Palestinians prove that even a weak person can cause you “troubles” about “for concealing the facts” - this is a fairy tale about a white bull, your people have a lie in their blood, and if you had been on the Internet and social networks in 60 - 80 years, then the wikipedia that you and others like you would have replete with facts that didn’t upset you about the losses of Israel, in the same operation, Ramon which Israel’s casualties like to refer to so much. 5 LA aircraft, including 1 UAV, the rest of your planes, but yours skillfully concealed the losses, although the Syrians saw your helicopters to evacuate your pilots that were shot down, so be complacent until the rocket flies into your house and, why I do not wish you hi PS the iron dome will protect you 100% wink
                1. Vitaly gusin
                  Vitaly gusin 14 November 2019 07: 21 New
                  0
                  [quote = Pytnik] PS the iron dome will protect you 100% [/ quote]
                  In just two days of shelling in Israel was About 400 missiles were fired. About 60% of them fell on undeveloped terrain.over 90% of the missiles that posed a threat for settlements, were shot down by the Iron Dome missile defense system. [quote = Pytnik]
                  1. Pytnik
                    Pytnik 14 November 2019 10: 07 New
                    +1
                    your propaganda for your citizens wink you can’t fool us - an iron dome with a big hole laughing
      5. Bar2
        Bar2 13 November 2019 09: 20 New
        +1
        Well, new weapons are no longer being done, what happened? Therefore, in addition to gossip and gossip in the Chinese Sohu and the Israeli media, there is nothing more to talk about.
      6. 1976AG
        1976AG 13 November 2019 14: 39 New
        +3
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        At VO there is nothing more to discuss than gossip in the Israeli media? recourse

        VO discusses a lot of news, not just those related to Israel, so it’s strange that you got so nervous.
    3. Russobel
      Russobel 13 November 2019 08: 18 New
      +3
      Apparently she really went deep into cunning.
    4. andrewkor
      andrewkor 13 November 2019 08: 33 New
      +5
      It is still possible to survive the penetration of “reconnaissance goals”, but if it is with “percussion”, then? I give to the IDF, and at the same time to “various other Swedes” the idea is free.
    5. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 13 November 2019 10: 11 New
      +7
      Complete nonsense.
      The news outlet is probably timed in the US extradition of a Russian citizen of Petersburger Alexei Burkov. And Israel needs a run over the Russian Federation
    6. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 13 November 2019 11: 09 New
      +4
      Why Burkova Americans were given ... fiends.
      As the saying goes: children do not go to Africa for a walk, I don’t go to them and they won’t give me away. laughing
      1. atalef
        atalef 13 November 2019 11: 17 New
        -5
        Quote: Incvizitor
        As the saying goes: children do not go to Africa for a walk, I don’t go to them and they won’t give me away. laughing

        And is there anything to give out?
        Or how is it here?
        1. Incvizitor
          Incvizitor 13 November 2019 11: 25 New
          +5
          Well, I'm Russian, it will be necessary, they will steal for another provocation. laughing
          1. atalef
            atalef 13 November 2019 14: 26 New
            -4
            Quote: Incvizitor
            Well, I'm Russian, it will be necessary, they will steal for another provocation. laughing

            The Elusive Joe Number 2.
    7. MMX
      MMX 13 November 2019 15: 07 New
      +1
      Quote: The same Lech
      On its pages it was stated that the Russian Navy submarine “entered deep into the territorial waters of Israel” - at a distance of about 15 km

      Already 15 km ... they’re giving ... and yesterday it was 8 km ... the day before yesterday 2 km ... tomorrow you see our submarines will emerge in Jerusalem ... well, the Jews ... well, you give.
      Why Burkova Americans were given ... fiends.


      The fact of boat detection is not confirmed. That is, the fact itself is not. There is nothing to discuss.
    8. Alien From
      Alien From 16 November 2019 00: 02 New
      -2
      With Israeli friends you have to act like in an advertisement "how many grams to hang")))
  2. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 13 November 2019 07: 19 New
    +5
    Personally, I’m concerned about the silence of our Defense Ministry ... Usually Konashenkov denounced the much less absurd statements about the department.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 13 November 2019 07: 28 New
      +9
      Meaning? "Justified," then to blame ....
      1. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 13 November 2019 07: 36 New
        +1
        MH17. Not an example? By the number of excuses from the Moscow Region and according to your logic, three airliners should have been shot down! At least as many versions have been issued.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 13 November 2019 08: 33 New
          +11
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          MH17. Not an example?

          To whom to make excuses in this particular case? Well, it’s not the Swedes who, chasing after no one knows what, all the same blamed Russia ... there were NO official claims that should be answered, if possible and meaningfully! And against the media, in general, to “fight” is useless, however, as well as against many official claims, although at least some rules were in effect there, at least earlier.
          There is simply no one to justify ... maximum surprise, because ours simply did not stand there!
          1. Avior
            Avior 13 November 2019 11: 18 New
            +1
            The Soviet Union’s attempt to organize a Komsomol cell in Sweden made such a strong impression on the Swedes that they became even suspicious of allusions to this. smile ....
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 13 November 2019 11: 27 New
              +1
              Quote: Avior
              An attempt by the USSR to organize a Komsomol cell in Sweden was made against the Swedes

              Accurately say, it is necessary to live there and merge, t.s. But it cannot be ruled out that they can’t forget Poltava’s other acts of Peter either, because after the Renaissance, they never had ... restrained!
              1. Avior
                Avior 13 November 2019 11: 36 New
                0
                We kind of discuss boats.
                And in Poltava, what could impress them? The Swedish troops were much inferior to the Russians, a logical result.
    2. Crimean partisan 1974
      Crimean partisan 1974 13 November 2019 09: 17 New
      +3
      Personally, I’m concerned about the silence of our Moscow Region ... Don’t be alarmed, this Israeli ravine doesn’t even draw on the expression
    3. 1976AG
      1976AG 13 November 2019 14: 40 New
      +1
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Personally, I’m concerned about the silence of our Defense Ministry ... Usually Konashenkov denounced the much less absurd statements about the department.

      And this is so that the Jews got nervous) Here one has already twitched.
  3. Maz
    Maz 13 November 2019 07: 20 New
    +14
    Russophobic nonsense of the Israeli media, shaw, the boat directly told the Israeli corvette, sho she is Russian? Or surfaced with a flag? , Where there, Israel is directly a great sea power! We infringed on her interests on the beach near Tel Aviv.
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 13 November 2019 07: 24 New
      -9
      Quote: Maz
      Russophobic nonsense of the Israeli media, shaw, the boat directly told the Israeli corvette, sho she is Russian? Or surfaced with a flag? , Where there, Israel is directly a great sea power!

      And you finance this Russophobic nonsense from your pocket. Aren't you ashamed Maz?
      1. Maz
        Maz 13 November 2019 07: 27 New
        +15
        No, I am ashamed that the Germans give you weapons: dolphins, and you shove rockets there with nuclear weapons. Aren't you ashamed to pretend to be peaceful and fluffy?
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 13 November 2019 07: 31 New
          -16
          Quote: Maz
          No, I am ashamed that the Germans give you weapons: dolphins, and you shove rockets there with nuclear weapons. Aren't you ashamed to pretend to be peaceful and fluffy?

          And you also keep these boats for your taxes. Yes, you are an accomplice of the Israeli military. tongue
          1. Andrei Nikolaevich
            Andrei Nikolaevich 13 November 2019 07: 53 New
            +10
            Aron Zaavi, take your mind off the boat .. Better remember how your prime minister’s wife baked bread and bites, in Boryspil. What a woman! Well done! Poor buds in embroidered shirts .. They let the snot out for a week and hysteria .-)
          2. Maz
            Maz 13 November 2019 17: 29 New
            +2
            Yeah, with only half of the proceeds, with the rest of your boats, your dummies are sucked up, not my money.
            1. Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi 13 November 2019 17: 55 New
              -3
              Quote: Maz
              Yeah, with only half of the proceeds, with the rest of your boats, your dummies are sucked up, not my money.

              Firstly, from the half we still have you, and secondly, even from the second you are quite paying indirect taxes to yourself. tongue
    2. user1212
      user1212 13 November 2019 07: 25 New
      +14
      It’s interesting, and what percentage of “Israelis” in this forum were Ukrainians not so long ago? And sometimes it’s so reminiscent :)))
      1. Mestny
        Mestny 13 November 2019 08: 52 New
        +10
        Percent 90.
        The flags were canceled long ago, so the trolls roam in droves in no one knows where.
        1. atalef
          atalef 13 November 2019 09: 03 New
          -6
          Quote: Mestny
          Percent 90.
          The flags were canceled long ago, so the trolls roam in droves in no one knows where.

          I wonder how many visitors to the site (Russians) have Ukrainian roots, Ukrainians relatives, lived in Ukraine?
          1. Cottodraton
            Cottodraton 13 November 2019 10: 54 New
            0
            Paul Siberia, so for sure
          2. Maz
            Maz 13 November 2019 17: 30 New
            +3
            Well, am I Ukrainian and Shaw?
            1. Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi 13 November 2019 17: 57 New
              -6
              Quote: Maz
              Well, am I Ukrainian and Shaw?

              No Maz, you are a person without a nationality.
            2. atalef
              atalef 13 November 2019 18: 23 New
              -5
              Quote: Maz
              Well, am I Ukrainian and Shaw?

              No, sho.
              Look at you and understand - Soloviev is probably right in something. lol
        2. user1212
          user1212 13 November 2019 09: 03 New
          +9
          Quote: Mestny
          The flags were canceled long ago, so the trolls roam in droves in no one knows where.

          I'm not really talking about flags. This refers to those who emigrated from the "western" (not about geography, but about the mentality) of Ukraine to Israel.
  4. gmb
    gmb 13 November 2019 07: 20 New
    +11
    So they got lost or wanted to walk to the beaches of Tel Aviv, warm up, swim, drink beer.
    1. atalef
      atalef 13 November 2019 09: 05 New
      +1
      Quote: gmb
      So they got lost or wanted to walk to the beaches of Tel Aviv, warm up, swim, drink beer.

      With our beer prices (500-600 rub) for a half-liter glass.
      One of two things - either a boat is being piled into a pawnshop, or washed at the intersections. laughing
      1. Mikhalych 70
        Mikhalych 70 13 November 2019 09: 21 New
        +1
        It hurts :)
      2. MMX
        MMX 13 November 2019 14: 49 New
        +2
        Quote: atalef
        Quote: gmb
        So they got lost or wanted to walk to the beaches of Tel Aviv, warm up, swim, drink beer.

        With our beer prices (500-600 rub) for a half-liter glass.
        One of two things - either a boat is being piled into a pawnshop, or washed at the intersections. laughing


        Surprised straight. We also have good beer at 500 per mug (at the bar). And they drink nothing. And yes, they don’t wash glass at intersections.
      3. panov_panov
        panov_panov 13 November 2019 18: 08 New
        +1
        Now I understand why, you do not have a high percentage of alcohol consumption per capita))
        1. atalef
          atalef 13 November 2019 18: 26 New
          -3
          Quote: panov_panov
          Now I understand why, you do not have a high percentage of alcohol consumption per capita))

          For the cost of our beer, in Zimbabwe you can feed an entire village for a week.
          So what ?
          But I forgot - we have a minimum 80000 for your money.
          About identity wink
          1. panov_panov
            panov_panov 13 November 2019 18: 40 New
            0
            Well, judging by the beer, then that’s what comes out)) wink But seriously, low alcohol consumption is not the worst indicator. I was always surprised at you, it seems, not an Arab country, but they drink at the level of Turkey in my opinion) Now I know the answer). We have 200-300 rubles worth a decent beer (I mean in a bar, a tavern).
    2. loki565
      loki565 13 November 2019 11: 27 New
      +2
      So they got lost or wanted to walk to the beaches of Tel Aviv, warm up, swim, drink beer.

      Exactly, otherwise everything is in ice and ice))) We decided to get warm)))
  5. anjey
    anjey 13 November 2019 07: 21 New
    +13
    The Mediterranean has become the "sphere of interests" of Russia and Israel will have to put up with it. laughing ....
    1. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 13 November 2019 18: 03 New
      -4
      Quote: anjey
      The Mediterranean has become the "sphere of interests" of Russia and Israel will have to put up with it.

      Why did it become.
      It was in the 60-70 years of the last century, but then, for some reason and for some reason, interest disappeared.
      Can you guess why?
      1. anjey
        anjey 13 November 2019 18: 53 New
        +2
        Everything in life is changing, and here oil and gas traffic to Europe is at stake, so whose geopolitical, first of all, brains and then muscles will win, let’s see if Russia doesn’t put things in order there, nobody will bring it back, and Israel should to be interested in economic and political stability in BV or, in your opinion, the other way round ???? Only you have to live beautifully and richly and the rest with outstretched hands ???
        1. Vitaly gusin
          Vitaly gusin 13 November 2019 19: 54 New
          -3
          Quote: anjey
          Everything in life is changing, and here oil and gas traffic to Europe is at stake

          Yes. Israel has already begun gas production and signed a contract to build a pipeline to Europe.
          Quote: anjey
          if Russia doesn’t put things in order there,

          Well, it’s already somehow familiar, or you’re just young and don’t know or don’t want to know.
          ORDER IN ANOTHER'S HOUSE?
          First you need to clean up YOURSELF!
          Quote: anjey
          Israel should be interested in economic and political stability in BV or, in your opinion, vice versa

          Both that and the other in Israel are in perfect order, which I also wish you.
          Quote: anjey
          Only you have to live beautifully and richly and the rest with outstretched hands ???

          We must be able to work, develop our country, and not wait for an uncle to come and do everything for you or try to destroy a neighbor, as it has been for 71 years.
          1. anjey
            anjey 14 November 2019 07: 59 New
            +2
            Quote: Vitaly Gusin
            We must be able to work, develop our country, and not wait for an uncle to come and do everything for you or try to destroy a neighbor, as it has been for 71 years.

            The United States is trying to destroy and weaken the neighbors and you (Israel) are in the same company with them, so do not fill in the lies about geopolitics.
            Give up your demagogy about work, no one is better than Russian, if his work, really respected and worthy of paying, can not work like that.
            Who in your USSR has restored several times from real ruins ????
            1. Vitaly gusin
              Vitaly gusin 14 November 2019 19: 58 New
              -1
              Quote: anjey
              The United States is trying to destroy and weaken the neighbors and you (Israel) are in the same company with them, so do not fill in the lies about geopolitics.

              Unfortunately, you are saturated in propaganda.
              Since 2005, NO GAS ONE JEWISH NEITHER CIVIL, NOT MILITARY.
              They can build and develop their country like other countries.
              BV countries proposed to Hamas, which rules in Gaza, in exchange for the destruction of its arsenal of huge financial investments for the construction of infrastructure of sea and air ports, factories, housing, hotels.
              The answer was simple.
              WE CAN'T REFUSE THE PALESTINIAN CHARTER
              Article 9
              Armed struggle is the only way to liberate Palestine, and therefore, it is a strategy, not a tactic. The Arab people of Palestine reaffirm their adamant determination to step up and intensify the armed struggle, bringing it to a popular revolution with the goal of liberating the homeland and returning to their country, regaining the right to a normal life, self-determination and sovereignty.
              They (their leadership) are still in 1948.
              From February 11 to 13, 2019, negotiations were held in Moscow between representatives of Palestinian organizations.
              Palestinian Islamic Jihad profits: Fatah, Hamas, Palestine Liberation Popular Front (PFLP), Palestinian Democratic Liberation Front (PFLP), PFLP - High Command, Palestinian National Initiative (PNI), Palestinian People's Party (formerly Palestinian Communist Party), " Al-Saika ”(Ba'athist Party), Palestinian Liberation Front, Palestinian Popular Front (left-wing nationalist party) and Palestinian Democratic Union.
              However, no agreement was found. (pay attention to their number of 12 parasites and they all live hundreds of times better than you)
              They did not put their signatures under the declaration
              Therefore, the document is not valid.
              And a member of the Fatah Central Committee, Azzam al-Ahmad I even had to apologize to the Russian leadership for what happened. (your taxes flew into the pipe, or into your pocket)
              THIS IS THEIR BUSINESS AND THEY DO NOT give a damn about what happens in the gas.
              And you are so worried!
              Quote: anjey
              ,if his work is really respected and worthy to pay

              If grandmother will be grandfather.
              Quote: anjey
              Who in your USSR has restored several times from real ruins ????

              The Gulag, all the peoples of the USSR, slaves of the regime, including my parents.
              1. anjey
                anjey 14 November 2019 21: 36 New
                0
                I have expressed my opinion about Hamas more than once that this organization was originally funded by Israel and you still have a certain influence on them to this day, all these Nurov’s, ineffective shelling of your mostly deserted territory is creating the appearance of a fight against you (Israel ), it looks like they are sawing both yours and the Arab states-allies and in many respects these provocations work for you.
                About the Stalinist Gulag, your horror stories, this is also akin to propaganda of not the best spill, all of course there was the labor of the prisoners, as a kind of re-education and the extraction of certain benefits to the state. At my very own, the family of one great-grandfather was dispossessed and sent into exile, but the whole family subsequently, in particular my grandmother, honestly and conscientiously worked on the collective farm, was in good standing, was happy about life sincerely, even if it did not accumulate any capital, did not harboring anger at those difficult times, she was happy in her own way and probably there were most of them, seeing that the country was rising after the war and that this was her work, so do not exaggerate about the regime, I can also paint your Israel as an exclusively terrorist-militarized state in the BV, where the population is fooled by the regime to such an extent that women sit in tanks, in fact, on death row, anyone understands that a little war against a weak enemy, for you is actually a nurse, women get into tanks more of a mercantile one knowing well that at the moment the probability of dying in the database is minimal, although everything can change at any time than the non-bloody regime that uses its women as a push Butcher meat, which also kills Palestinian women and children ....
                1. Vitaly gusin
                  Vitaly gusin 14 November 2019 22: 49 New
                  0
                  Quote: anjey
                  , I can also paint your Israel as an exclusively terrorist-militarized state

                  All that you wrote, I took the exam on the history of the CPSU.
                  There is a huge difference between us.
                  I was born, studied, grew and worked in the USSR.
                  And today I live in the state of Israel, in which I have not only not been to, but I doubt what you will find on the map.
                  This year Israel was visited by 300000 RUSSIANS, THIS SECOND PLACE AFTER USA,
                  80% said they want to come again.
                  Live as you live and enjoy your life.
                  Please ת do not respond with slogans from the congresses of the CPPS.
                  1. anjey
                    anjey 15 November 2019 01: 48 New
                    0
                    I also lived, studied and worked under the USSR and once passed the exam on the History of the CPSU and I remember well, only visually, this big volume, but I do not spill slogans, but try to attach my opinion to life.
                    Yes, indeed, when I was interested in the History of the Ancient World, it was difficult to find on the map the oldest Empire in the World, Israel, I confess laughing psIn the USSR, under Stalin, the flow of tourists was also great .....
                    1. Vitaly gusin
                      Vitaly gusin 15 November 2019 11: 34 New
                      0
                      Quote: anjey
                      psIn the USSR, under Stalin, the flow of tourists was also great .....

                      And from this place, please, SEE MORE if it does not bother you.
                      1. anjey
                        anjey 15 November 2019 14: 07 New
                        0
                        Basically, during the end of the NEP - "commercial tourism", the first five-year period - "industrial" - a lot of foreign specialists were invited, at the same time, "spyware" was developed, and during the Second World War - "field tourism", together with free funeral services, for Germany and some other European countries laughing
                        So welcome, as a tourist, it’s up to you to choose laughing
                      2. Vitaly gusin
                        Vitaly gusin 15 November 2019 15: 39 New
                        0
                        Quote: anjey
                        Basically, during the end of the NEP - "commercial tourism"

                        You didn’t understand me. I wrote that in Russian society there is an interest in knowing Israel near ת not through TV which has turned from journalism into propaganda.
                        Quote: anjey
                        This year Israel was visited by 300000 RUSSIANS, THIS SECOND PLACE AFTER USA,
        2. anjey
          anjey 14 November 2019 08: 05 New
          +2
          Yes. Israel has already begun gas production and signed a contract
          I see Israel is already the "energy navel" of the Earth laughing
          1. Vitaly gusin
            Vitaly gusin 14 November 2019 23: 13 New
            -1
            Quote: anjey
            I see Israel is already the "energy navel" of the Earth

            While you only read

            And now you already see hi
            1. anjey
              anjey 15 November 2019 01: 40 New
              0
              For God's sake, do not mind living and prospering.
              That's just not all that is scratched on the fence ... pah in the media, there is something that is scratched laughing
              1. Vitaly gusin
                Vitaly gusin 15 November 2019 11: 27 New
                0
                Thank you!
                I, you understand, such a small country and all the way, of course the FROW is choking.
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 13 November 2019 07: 22 New
    +4
    Probably getting ready to see the beaches, the commander was bored. And so, swam up, raised the periscope, and admire wassat
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 13 November 2019 07: 29 New
      +16
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Probably getting ready to see the beaches, the commander was bored. And so, swam up, raised the periscope, and admire wassat

      I understand him.
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 13 November 2019 07: 31 New
        +7
        Epsel mopsel what are you doing with the men. belay
        1. knn54
          knn54 13 November 2019 08: 12 New
          +8
          -Alexey: what are you doing with the men.
          Recalled from the 60s:
          The girls gathered together in flocks.
          Swimming boldly for buoys.
          ............
          That night the samurai decided.
          Cross the border by the river.
      2. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 13 November 2019 07: 32 New
        +6
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        I understand him

        Do you have nudist beaches there? Well ... laughing
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 13 November 2019 07: 33 New
          0
          Quote: Mountain Shooter

          Do you have nudist beaches there? Well ...

          Somewhere they say there are, but for 30 years in Israel have not seen. request
          1. Professor
            Professor 13 November 2019 08: 30 New
            +3
            Quote: Aaron Zawi
            Quote: Mountain Shooter

            Do you have nudist beaches there? Well ...

            Somewhere they say there are, but for 30 years in Israel have not seen. request

            I was not looking there. wink Throw Nun Tzaddik?
          2. Demon_is_ada
            Demon_is_ada 13 November 2019 09: 44 New
            +2
            Well, that’s the explanation, just for intelligence purposes yes the goal is to find a nudist beach and observe potential partners. The second stage of the operation is recruitment, the third is coercion, serving interests ... if not so, then it’s for sure our "occupiers" lol
      3. Deathmaker
        Deathmaker 13 November 2019 07: 54 New
        +14
        Yeah, then I rubbed my eyes, and there it is ...
      4. loki565
        loki565 13 November 2019 11: 29 New
        +2
        We came closer to the periscope to admire)))
      5. Okolotochny
        Okolotochny 13 November 2019 12: 14 New
        +4
        I understand him too !!! good
      6. Avior
        Avior 13 November 2019 12: 32 New
        +2
        Wanted to find out who it is?
        the search in the picture is very unsettled.
        https://tettie.livejournal.com/3165388.html
        https://fishki.net/1929342-devushki-v-kupalnikah.html
    2. Leopold
      Leopold 13 November 2019 07: 33 New
      +11
      The commander and the start-up argued over what color bikinis are now in fashion. The commander said that he was white; the first officer was blue. He won the cook - he set it to red. tongue
    3. andrewkor
      andrewkor 13 November 2019 08: 47 New
      0
      A stroll along the beach of Haifa, as the "Doenitz boys" did in America, is weak!
      1. Leopold
        Leopold 13 November 2019 09: 08 New
        +7
        So maybe someone is walking now, not taken into account at customs? Yes, maybe not one. belay
        1. atalef
          atalef 13 November 2019 09: 13 New
          -14
          Quote: Leopold
          So maybe someone is walking now, not taken into account at customs? Yes, maybe not one. belay

          Of course walk and not one.
          Do you know how many Russian women with low social responsibility came from Egypt on camels?
          Bypassing all customs.
          1. Leopold
            Leopold 13 November 2019 09: 19 New
            +5
            Yes, yes do I know? You are closer there, so consider. Exactly the same "good" and we have enough. yes
            1. Okolotochny
              Okolotochny 13 November 2019 12: 16 New
              +2
              I would say it differently - we have NO such "good", everyone rushed to you, to Israel through Egypt, Demand gives birth to Proposals !!!
              1. Leopold
                Leopold 13 November 2019 14: 47 New
                +9
                Yes, let it reflect. And where is the demand there, even if the locals in the IDF come from lack of attention? request
                Alexey hi
                1. Okolotochny
                  Okolotochny 13 November 2019 17: 44 New
                  +3
                  Earrings, so they’re looking for cheaper, national fun)))
                  1. Leopold
                    Leopold 13 November 2019 19: 29 New
                    +6
                    Alexei, I don’t understand how, why? They have a "thread broken" - the bolt is not working. request Ah, I finished it, that's why they are looking for cheaper. good So our neighbors deliver them “plugs”, even almost related ones. And specifically on this forum member, my colleague told me. He's funny. wink
  • Ravil_Asnafovich
    Ravil_Asnafovich 13 November 2019 07: 26 New
    +3
    On its pages it was stated that the Russian Navy submarine “entered deep into the territorial waters of Israel” - at a distance of about 15 km from the Israeli coast in the area of ​​the agglomeration of Tel Aviv Gush-Dan. Well, the Jews give, in nautical miles it will be even less so what count in kilometers.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 13 November 2019 07: 33 New
      +4
      "Went deep into



      Erotic article ... the author of the article probably works in this area.
  • Saboteur Holuy
    Saboteur Holuy 13 November 2019 07: 26 New
    -6
    I believe in Russia only in intelligence intelligence! To Electronic no
  • rocket757
    rocket757 13 November 2019 07: 27 New
    +5
    The media can no longer be stopped .... they launched the mulka, then it lives its own life !! It grows and becomes shaggy!
    True \ not true, it doesn’t matter anymore, the "news" has gone.
  • Zeev Zeev
    Zeev Zeev 13 November 2019 07: 30 New
    -2
    In Israel, the second day is a completely different concern. Everyone doesn't care about the boat.
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 13 November 2019 08: 17 New
      +7
      Zeev Zeev (Zeev Zeev) Today, 07: 30
      -1
      In Israel, the second day is a completely different concern.

      It’s your own fault that rockets are falling on you.
      1. Zeev Zeev
        Zeev Zeev 13 November 2019 08: 40 New
        -1
        I do not argue. It’s their own fault that they believed a quarter of a century ago that terrorists can be negotiated, not destroyed.
        1. aszzz888
          aszzz888 13 November 2019 08: 43 New
          +6
          Zeev Zeev (Zeev Zeev) Today, 08: 40 NEW
          -1
          I do not argue. It's your own fault

          So have what you have.
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 13 November 2019 07: 34 New
    +5
    “A Russian submarine could collect information about the forces operating in the territorial waters of Israel, as well as about gas fields.”
    And without a nuclear submarine, of course, getting such information is probably not possible. They run into without looking back. A citizen of our country was given to the Americans (probably detained with us in retaliation for his drug addict). Suddenly, a scandal with a Russian nuclear submarine is now being fanned, why were they silent for three months? All this is strange.
    1. Crimean partisan 1974
      Crimean partisan 1974 13 November 2019 09: 37 New
      +2
      A citizen of our country was given to the Americans .... the question is, what did he do there knowing the story of Vitya Bout
  • Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 13 November 2019 07: 38 New
    0
    And to obtain data on the naval forces operating in the territorial waters of Israel, it would be no less strange to use a submarine, given the commonplace fact: the composition of the Israeli Navy (which by definition cannot bypass the territorial waters of Israel) is known from open sources, including the same Israeli media
    Here let me doubt it. Unique acoustic tracks do not print in their newspapers. During Soviet times, they were painstakingly collected and I think that tactics have not changed since then.
  • Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 13 November 2019 07: 44 New
    +6
    What are you saying ?! Horrible! And we thought we were paying taxes so that we could carry tourists on submarines. Thank! You opened our eyes .-)
  • Deathmaker
    Deathmaker 13 November 2019 07: 48 New
    +2
    Just the captain wanted to look at the spiers of the Jerusalem synagogue: o)
  • Evil echo
    Evil echo 13 November 2019 08: 03 New
    +2
    . It is added that “the Russian submarine was underwater”

    And the sides were painted in the Russian tricolor, for ease of identification.
  • Rusfaner
    Rusfaner 13 November 2019 08: 04 New
    +4
    Quote: The same Lech
    I agree ... hi I fool around ... sorry for the childishness.

    And I would have pulled the divine mile of God - 6,4 km :-).
  • Aliken
    Aliken 13 November 2019 08: 13 New
    +2
    Captains Evidence. And what else is there to do with a military submarine, as if not to conduct reconnaissance.
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 13 November 2019 08: 21 New
    +3
    Israeli media continue to “chronicle” the discovery of the “Russian submarine” a few nautical miles from Tel Aviv.

    At the Ministry of Defense of Russia they do not comment on publications in the Israeli media that announced that "the Russian submarine acted with intelligence purposes."

    The worthy behavior of the Russian Defense Ministry - what was still missing was to comment on the "highs" of the foreign press ...
  • valeryb
    valeryb 13 November 2019 09: 12 New
    -5
    Actually, I can understand the captain of the submarine clinging to the coast of Israel, he is pressed against Syria and the fate of IL18 here it is.
    1. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 13 November 2019 18: 05 New
      +1
      Quote: valeryb
      Actually, I can understand the captain of the submarine

      Intelligence has such a fate:
      "BEFORE THINK ABOUT MOTHERLAND, BECAUSE ABOUT YOURSELF"
  • Professor
    Professor 13 November 2019 09: 17 New
    -3
    Israeli media

    What kind of media are these? The nameless author didn’t post the secret once in the article.
    1. valeryb
      valeryb 13 November 2019 09: 30 New
      0
      https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5623388,00.html
      Quote: Professor
      What kind of media are these? The nameless author didn’t post the secret once in the article.
      1. Professor
        Professor 13 November 2019 10: 20 New
        0
        Quote: valeryb
        https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5623388,00.html
        Quote: Professor
        What kind of media are these? The nameless author didn’t post the secret once in the article.

        And where is there:
        Following this report, Israeli reporters announced that "this was not a mistake, but was targeted intelligence."

        The Israeli media wrote that "a Russian submarine could collect information about the forces operating in the territorial waters of Israel, as well as about gas fields." It is added that "the Russian submarine was underwater"
        1. valeryb
          valeryb 13 November 2019 10: 27 New
          +1
          Quote: Professor
          And where is there:
          And you joke, Ron Ben
          1. Professor
            Professor 13 November 2019 10: 37 New
            -1
            Quote: valeryb
            Quote: Professor
            And where is there:
            And you joke, Ron Ben

            I posted a link to his article here yesterday yesterday. And he does not write this.
  • iRoccka
    iRoccka 13 November 2019 09: 35 New
    +1
    how did they recognize the affiliation of the submarine, that it was the Russian Federation, and not China or Iran, for example?
    what can be cut into submarines, which is not visible from the satellite?
    What underwater secrets does Israel have?
    1. Pup1
      Pup1 13 November 2019 09: 54 New
      +3
      Israel, as a country with nuclear weapons and constantly terrorizing its neighbors, and not only should expect the emergence of more serious forces next to it ... Iskander and a Warsaw ....... start ... although they also nullify f 35 .... at once
  • Nestorych
    Nestorych 13 November 2019 10: 17 New
    -5
    It turned out not so "black hole" ...
  • Larch
    Larch 13 November 2019 10: 34 New
    +4
    In Israel, it was suggested that the "discovered Russian submarine" acted with intelligence purposes

    On Zapod it became "fashionable" to uncover a Russian submarine! By scaring the local population, that would not have disintegrated)))
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  • Ivan Osipov
    Ivan Osipov 13 November 2019 13: 48 New
    0
    Laugh only.
  • Leonid Har
    Leonid Har 14 November 2019 05: 04 New
    0
    You forgot to indicate that the submarine was with the Russian flag and the coat of arms of Russia, the color and shape of which Israeli sonar heard 200 meters underwater
  • anjey
    anjey 14 November 2019 07: 48 New
    +1
    Quote: Vitaly Gusin
    ORDER IN ANOTHER'S HOUSE?
    First you need to clean up YOURSELF!
    It is you, the United States, they climb everywhere uninvitedly and shamelessly. And if a neighbor called for help (Syria) to save you from murderers, robbers and rapists, and his house is always open for you. Yes, you personally, a Russian-speaking comrade, were born somewhere in Zhmerynka and you think Israel is already your home, and if your promised land were in Antarctica, never in your life would you go there to build your paradise.
    You (Jews) couldn’t even raise Birobidzhan in Siberia, but you don’t have to drive about your welfare, the region is minimally energy-intensive and fertile (except for deserts), the territory is minimal and then everything is not going smoothly both in economics and politics, so nothing to compare with Russia.
  • Shahno
    Shahno 14 November 2019 08: 02 New
    -2
    Quote: anjey
    Quote: Vitaly Gusin
    ORDER IN ANOTHER'S HOUSE?
    First you need to clean up YOURSELF!
    It is you, the United States, they climb everywhere uninvitedly and shamelessly. And if a neighbor called for help (Syria) to save you from murderers, robbers and rapists, and his house is always open for you. Yes, you personally, a Russian-speaking comrade, were born somewhere in Zhmerynka and you think Israel is already your home, and if your promised land were in Antarctica, never in your life would you go there to build your paradise.
    You (Jews) couldn’t even raise Birobidzhan in Siberia, but you don’t have to drive about your welfare, the region is minimally energy-intensive and fertile (except for deserts), the territory is minimal and then everything is not going smoothly both in economics and politics, so nothing to compare with Russia.

    Something you all fall into a bunch. Do you have such a reception?
    // the region is minimally energy-consuming and fertile (except for deserts) //
    Most of the soils in Israel are infertile, with rare exceptions, and year-round artificial watering is required (about the Negev this is generally another story).
    // territory is minimal //
    And from this there are as many problems as there are benefits.
    // You (Jews) could not even raise Birobidzhan in Siberia, //
    Reservations to equip a futile business.
    1. anjey
      anjey 14 November 2019 08: 40 New
      0
      Ukraine, Crimea, Belarus, a reservation for you too ???
      Where half of the inhabitants of Israel was born and raised. Why are you all at a gallop from your Home, then, "Paradise" on Earth found ??? They have been waiting for you there for a long time ??? And if you live there now, then you don’t need to spoil the neighbors at the threshold and everything will be OKlaughing
      1. atalef
        atalef 14 November 2019 08: 50 New
        -1
        Quote: anjey
        Ukraine, Crimea, Belarus, is there a reservation for you too?

        and what is the problem with Ukraine, Belarus or the Crimea?
        or should we have raised the whole USSR?
        Do you want to ask the titular nation this question?
        Quote: anjey
        Where half of the inhabitants of Israel was born and raised ??? Why are you all galloping from Hometown

        a strange question of a Russian living in Russia about the desire of Jews to live in their historical homeland in Israel. request
        Quote: anjey
        Have you found heaven on earth?

        Well, paradise is one.
        What is your problem? So that the Jews left?
        you have vacated your places, go for it.
        Quote: anjey
        They have been waiting for you there for a long time ???

        they have always been waiting for us here.
        And the fact remains that they left and did not return.
        but the strangest thing is that not only the Jews left (which is understandable) you ask the MAZ, why is he so well spread over here?
        1. anjey
          anjey 14 November 2019 09: 41 New
          0
          I’m talking about “Alien House” and your demagogy around it, if you were born somewhere, but it seems bad there, for you it quickly becomes a “strange house” and most Russians have a different mentality, they will give the latter in order to help a neighbor in need Knowing that this trouble can come to their house tomorrow, it is about Syria, we (Russia) will be there for a long time and you will have to reckon with it, and the fact that many of you have fled from the Motherland, I think this is not the most worthy people, citizens and patriots , with whom, thank God, it’s no longer necessary to go with intelligence, and they themselves have nowhere to run either, they’re in their own “paradise”, but if you spoil the peaceful life of your neighbors, they will make hell for you, so you need to peacefully and effectively sits down at the negotiating table with all interested parties and decides to continue to be in BV in a peaceful manner. It will not work for a long time to buy one’s well-being due to the troubles of others ...
  • total commander
    total commander 14 November 2019 22: 33 New
    0
    They just took the turn to be circumcised in order to be the first in the morning.