At Sohu: Chinese fleet is still inferior to the Russian Navy


The military section of Sohu published material that examined Vietnam’s activation at sea. In particular, we are talking about the fact that the Vietnamese Navy recently used 9 warships of various classes for maneuvers in the South China Sea, including those equipped with anti-ship weapons. Several Vietnamese warships went on patrol in the area of ​​the disputed Spratly archipelago (disputed not only by China and Vietnam, but also by Taiwan, Brunei, Malaysia and the Philippines).


From the material:

The Vietnamese navy bared its fangs. Vietnam, which listens to the West, is trying to advance its interests. With its actions in the South China Sea, Vietnam is trying to justify the illegal occupation of several islands.

Sohu says that the West is thus analyzing the situation to see if China will provide any answer to Vietnam’s actions.

At the same time, the Chinese edition reminded that the PLA Navy "are ready to act decisively." An example is the situation when Chinese warships literally took the American aircraft carrier Ronald Reagan into the ring. Then the photo of this event became a real bestseller in China, flying around all the major media (and not only, by the way, in China).

Thinking that the PLA Navy is ready to defend the interests of China in the South China Sea, Sohu writes that the Chinese fleet is still in third place in the world. Note that for China this is a resonant statement, since all the recent time the official press of the Celestial Empire stating that the PLA Navy took the second place in the world, bypassing the Russian Navy.

Sohu:

Our fleet is in third place in the world. He is still behind the Russian Navy and, of course, from the American fleet.

The following is a discussion of the reasons why Russia takes second place at sea after the United States:

First of all, we lag behind Russia for the reason that it has a significant advantage in the number and characteristics of submarines. And in the US Navy, the total tonnage of warships is much larger than what we now have.

The same material noted that the third place of the PLA Navy allows you to perform operations in which the fleet comes out victorious against the United States. It's about the same situation with the aircraft carrier Ronald Reagan.

At Sohu: Chinese fleet is still inferior to the Russian Navy

As a result, the author states that Vietnam, “even if it bared its fangs at sea,” must remember the strength of the Chinese fleet.
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  1. Lexus 12 November 2019 15: 15 New
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    At Sohu: Chinese fleet is still inferior to the Russian Navy

    If this continues, it will not be for long ...
    1. GKS 2111 12 November 2019 15: 24 New
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      The advantage of the Chinese Navy is also that it is not scattered across four fleets and a flotilla .. And I will not say anything about the pace of shipbuilding so as not to get upset ...
      1. maxim947 12 November 2019 15: 25 New
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        There are no miracles, it all depends on the economy. There will be a rise (with us), and there will be a corresponding fleet and everything else. In the meantime, we have and are building what we can, plus there are good shifts with civil shipbuilding, these are Zvezda, and fishing trawlers, dry cargo ships and icebreakers. Also very good projects for the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. In short, we will have everything))) But China ...? all this is already being built at an accelerated pace. And they’re doing it right.
        1. Vadivak 12 November 2019 19: 47 New
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          Quote: maxim947
          There will be a rise (with us)

          It’s a pity - to live in this wonderful season. I don’t have to - neither to me nor to you
          Nekrasov
          1. maxim947 12 November 2019 20: 20 New
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            Cheer up, everything will be the way))
      2. Oleg kubanoid 12 November 2019 15: 45 New
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        they also have a scatter ..
        1. Grits 13 November 2019 01: 29 New
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          Quote: Oleg kubanoid
          they also have a scatter ..

          Their spread of three fleets over the territory is almost the same as our spread of the fleet alone - the Pacific - 3 squadrons from Vladivostok to Vilyuchinsk.
      3. Alexander Petrov1 12 November 2019 20: 31 New
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        Most likely, with such a pace of construction (for 3 years, a destroyer of 10 thousand tons), China will soon come in 2nd place, and there is not far off ...
    2. hrych 12 November 2019 15: 40 New
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      Quote: lexus
      If this continues, it will not be for long ...

      In the technology of nuclear submarines, they will not succeed in catching up with us and the Americans. Nobody will share technologies, and you cannot buy these things. Moreover, they relied on the construction of AUG and UDC. Those. build a colonial fleet to control the resources of Africa. What of course upset the West and signed the verdict. Also, the Chinese can not compare with the shock weapons of the Russian anti-ship missiles and the AeroBR. Gauges of all kinds, Onyx, Zircons and Daggers, X-22/32. Yes, and Mosquitoes and Granites - unsurpassed. And our naval aviation, as part of the fleet to coastal complexes, is simply unique. Tu22M3, Tu-142, Mig-31K are also part of our Navy. Therefore, everything is objective. But fans of aircraft carriers, while the Chinese are making their first steps and there are no full-fledged AUGs, if there are aircraft carriers in the test. Well, Poseidon, even though they attack me again now, just changes life in the open sea. And there are a dozen nuclear-powered special-purpose boats in conjunction with titanium.
      1. Oleg kubanoid 12 November 2019 15: 49 New
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        I do not much agree on the assessment that China does not have a full-fledged AUG. how not to twist 055 with AV it is already a full-fledged AUG
        1. hrych 12 November 2019 16: 02 New
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          The Chinese are still far from the full use of AUG. The presence of the troughs themselves is still not enough. There are no trained specialists, there are still experimental takeoffs and landings. Until full use for years. The way Americans work.
          1. Oleg kubanoid 12 November 2019 17: 00 New
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            if you compare the application experience then yes .. but that's another question .. physically they already have AUG ..
            1. hrych 12 November 2019 17: 12 New
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              They have problems with air finishers, airplanes supposedly can take off, but without weapons, there is not enough power. It is time for Liaoning to write off the critical deformation of the corps from him ... All this is scanty news from the most closed country. It’s just that the Americans are not going to wait until the Chinese get on their feet, blink earlier, while economically.
              1. neri73-r 12 November 2019 17: 30 New
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                Quote: hrych
                It’s just that the Americans are not going to wait until the Chinese get on their feet, blink earlier, while economically.

                In particular, with the help of India.
                1. hrych 12 November 2019 17: 38 New
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                  Quote: neri73-r
                  In particular, with the help of India.

                  We are even faster than the Americans. They gave the submarines to the Indians on lease, like another one. But the most important thing was given by BrahMos - the worst RCC, supersonic and universal media. Yes, also for ground targets it was also tested in Syria (of course, under the nickname Onyx). Let's just say, BrahMos, we gave them the arrows of Indra in the future Mahachrat or Mahabharat wassat
              2. Grits 13 November 2019 02: 01 New
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                Quote: hrych
                Liaoning time to write off his critical deformation of the body ...

                This deformation since our Soviet times? So minus our shipbuilders. Or have the Chinese already wise something with our case ?? So they have such designers and builders.
                1. hrych 13 November 2019 02: 17 New
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                  Quote: Gritsa
                  This deformation since our Soviet times?

                  No, the Varangian was unfinished, then he was dragged across the oceans in tow, he fell into a 9-point storm and broke away from the tugboat. He shook without control. Then he was dragged around Africa. It seems that he was also kicked. He was very rusty, stood unowned for more than 10 years. They put it to the wall of a shipyard in China ... 20 years after the start of construction. And went on sea trials, after 26 years. The kid turned out to be Benjamin Baton wassat This is called poor operation. wassat
          2. Grits 13 November 2019 01: 34 New
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            Quote: hrych
            The Chinese are still far from the full use of AUG. The presence of the troughs themselves is still not enough. There are no trained specialists, there are still experimental takeoffs and landings. Until full use for years. The way Americans work.

            Since the time when our pre-aircraft carriers existed, we had experience in the operation of these ships, experience in the work of carrier-based aircraft. Although small, but somehow. He also stayed at Kuznetsovo. The Chinese do not have this yet. And before the Americans they are up to the ability to operate aircraft carriers - as on foot to the moon.
            1. hrych 13 November 2019 02: 00 New
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              our premature bearers

              Don't say that. We have a full-fledged cruiser aircraft carrier. Why did we go this way, because we operate mainly in the northern latitudes, and they are in the southern. The USA itself on the latitude of the Mediterranean, Panama, Suez, Persian Gulf, Singapore. All this is south. And we have Kuzya beyond the Arctic Circle. There you can’t work with catapults, especially steam ones. There are high waves, strong winds and often non-flying weather. But when you can’t fly, there are powerful and all-weather missiles. He also covers the compounds, both with an air wing and missiles, I repeat, in non-flying weather. You cannot have a deck crowded with airplanes, for the same reason. And in the Arctic there is no need to iron troglodytes, sitting down and taking off in three shifts. And our air wing has the task of not bombing, but air defense, anti-aircraft defense and anti-ship missiles, well, AWACS. And for Americans it is the main thing to iron the coast of the Aborigines, all the rest of course, too. But the main thing is to iron. Therefore, everything is rational and correct. At the Pacific Fleet, theoretically it would be possible to create an AUG, so again there we do not need it. Americans need to control the channels and straits of their logistics. It is desperately for them, they will hoof up without supplies. What about us? It’s stupid to protect the shore and provide the SSBN’s exit, well, of course, attack their pain points, which the submarine will do perfectly. Especially Poseidon. Unfortunately, even we absolutely do not have combat experience using carrier-based aircraft. And the Chinese ... they took our Arctic construction, and they are trying to hang up the southern colonial tasks. And if our Su-33 takes light air-to-air missiles, then the Chinese need both this and the landmines to the eyeballs, and then they are surprised that they cannot take off from the springboard. The Americans will load their hornets under the ovary and shoot from the catapult wassat Well, Zyuganov is only delighted by the Chinese wassat
              1. Grits 13 November 2019 12: 10 New
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                Quote: hrych
                Unfortunately, even we absolutely do not have combat experience using carrier-based aircraft.

                Unfortunately, there is. And not very, unfortunately, positive. Loss of 2 aircraft without enemy opposition in the form of air defense. Americans, I suppose, are making jokes about this.
                1. hrych 13 November 2019 13: 16 New
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                  Americans, of course, are smart people and understand that they give two unbeaten for a beaten man. Moreover, the Hornets lose once a month, or even more often. The outcome of the Kuzi campaign is significant. The old Queen said they climbed and fell in the shelter, only recently appeared not in the form of a double from far away, Brexit was treated for a long time and happened, and Harry jumped out for the black woman ... and during the campaign he defeated Trump. A fateful agreement was concluded with Haftar on board, and Kuzya still came back under his own power. According to the experience of the campaign, modernization is underway and the ship will still be normal. It seems ridiculous, but here's a bit of mysticism, the Queen is a hierophant and a high priestess. She became ill and her witch-pupils got numb. Hillary, Theresa and Angela. Clinton lost because of this mess and went ... When these two most powerful ships with the most powerful nuclear missiles passed near the Queen’s palace (and somewhere else there were a couple of submarines). Even without panic, automatically d. evacuation. According to safety rules. And the branches of power should dispersed. The situation was at the level of the Caribbean crisis, although it does not reach many. There was a confrontation between the Fleets, there was complete readiness and launches of hundreds of missiles, albeit nearby ... Therefore, the Queen’s stroke is not surprising. And she is one of the main centers of power of the World Order, and even quite officially. The victim of technology is not in vain, and even miserable, following the results of this planetary Zavarukha.
      2. TermNachTer 12 November 2019 17: 40 New
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        I don’t remember, one of the great said - "A bunch of ships, not yet a fleet." And our narrow-film friends have chosen a very expensive way to build the Navy - AUG, which only the USA can afford now. However, many aircraft carriers - this is far from all. There is much more to be done. And so, in the "good way" - let them dare.
        1. hrych 12 November 2019 17: 51 New
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          Quote: TermNachTER
          "A collection of ships, not yet a fleet" ... the path of construction of the Navy - AUG

          Moreover, taking our Krechet as a basis, they did not make it a self-sufficient unit, with their air defense / anti-aircraft defense systems and with the most powerful shock anti-ship missiles, which on Kuza are likely to replenish both hypersonic and strategic, they went along the western route, a clean floating airfield. Those. they became friends with us and smarties with them. They drove themselves to AUG without experience, without traditions, without fifty years of trial and error. Well, how do they compete with the pale-faced wassat
          1. TermNachTer 12 November 2019 17: 56 New
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            Well, when they took away the "Varyag", there was hardly anything to remake there. The case was already ready. But the one that they supposedly built on their own, they could there, but what exactly was redone is a question. Actually, they are going to abandon the “granites” on the Kuz - their resource is running out. They will be replaced with something else or converted into a simple aircraft carrier without anti-ship missiles; various options are being discussed.
            1. hrych 12 November 2019 18: 37 New
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              Quote: TermNachTER
              on "Kuz" from "granites" are going to refuse

              Not only that, it's a powerful cruiser with ext. wing, not a floating airfield. Now there are strategic Caliber, he can now attack stationary targets and not only for thousands of kilometers. Compact Onyxes and Hyper Zircons appeared. It will be a super universal ship. What the hell is a floating trough that requires a whole fleet for servants ...
              1. TermNachTer 12 November 2019 19: 11 New
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                They want to increase the air group, due to the increase in the hangar - a difficult question. Specialists know better.
      3. NEXUS 12 November 2019 19: 06 New
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        Moreover, they relied on the construction of AUG and UDC.

        And do not we need new UDC? Tell me, how in the open ocean, and most importantly why, are you going to cover our KUG?
        Tell me for Zircons with a range of 1000 km? So while they are gone, this time ... and the second, so that Zircon at such distances hit a moving target, it needs stable target designation in flight mode, with a course change adjustment, so that the target is moving. And with us, Lyra and I have a full ass this question. So, nominally, Zircon will be able to beat kilometers on the 700, and taking into account its speed (the target will not have time to go too far), capture the target of its GOS. And all this despite the fact that the cat wept for A-50 aircraft, and I generally keep quiet about A-100. PLO aircraft are also not a lot, and so on ...
        So, as you called it, it is a trough (aircraft carrier) and provides KUG with air cover. Which we stupidly do not have now.
        And about X-32, Daggers, etc. you can certainly argue, but they are still relevant rather for the relative proximity of the enemy AUG to our shores.
        Quote: hrych
        Yes, and Mosquitoes and Granites - unsurpassed.

        I’ll tell you more - the Volcano is all the more unsurpassed with the declared range of 1000 km and this is during the USSR, but ... it would not have been surpassed if it had been provided with target designation throughout the flight, until the target was captured by its GOS.
        1. hrych 12 November 2019 20: 25 New
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          Quote: NEXUS
          And do not we need new UDC?

          I did not say that we do not need. It’s you who crucified the years against the purchase of the Mistral. Well, they didn’t let us buy them, they completely coped with the Syrian express. The Soviets did not build such councils either. Well? Here, in Crimea we are going to build.
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          And Lira and I have a full ass

          If you are about Liana, then it’s working fine for yourself, not a 2-hour delay, like the Soviet Legend, but 15 minutes, which is acceptable for an attack. We are also forming the defense line of ZGRLS, Volna and Container, and the Sunflowers have already worked on air defense, not that FFP
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          Tell me, how in the open ocean, and most importantly why, are you going to cover our KUG?

          And there is nothing for our IBM to do there, let the nuclear submarines and Poseidon solve the shock problems. Master Eurasia and protect the Heartland, and do not climb into the world's oceans. Moreover, our KUGs there anyway slap.
          Quote: NEXUS
          Tell me for Zircons with a range of 1000 km? So while they are gone

          If this is a marine Iskander, then consider it to be. Well, the Dagger in particular is already getting into operation. By tradition, our supersonic anti-ship missiles (and now hypersonic) were designed for powerful tactical charges. Granite on the floor megatons, X-22 to megatons. This is so that the adversary could leave shortly and a decent radius of defeat covered this villain. The hypersound is even faster, the range of escaping the adversary is less, there are less (no) chances to beat off by Aegis.
          Quote: NEXUS
          So, as you called it, it is a trough (aircraft carrier) and provides KUG with air cover.

          Like the elusive Joe, let him swim there in the ocean, and he’s afraid to approach a decent enemy. Where does he come to our shore? Think rowing galleys. The time of naval battles has passed, like the battle of Midway. Well, for 10 years we have not been present at all in the oceans with your favorite EBN so what? Nothing, Satan / Governor ensured us sovereignty. And since they are alive, then successfully. Fleet? Well stood on a joke. The future belongs to underwater drones and we are undoubted leaders here. We are leaders in the RCC in speed and range. This is undeniable. The USSR solved the problem "Killer aircraft carriers." I decided. Now all their component has become more perfect, further, faster and higher.
          1. NEXUS 12 November 2019 22: 52 New
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            It’s you who crucified the years against the purchase of the Mistral.

            I? Dear, I talked about the fact that the French will not pay us a forfeit for the Mistral and that I was mistaken. But I did not even stutter about the fact that I opposed the purchase of the Mistral.
            Quote: hrych
            If you are about Liane, then it works fine for yourself, not an 2 hour delay, like the Soviet Legend, but 15 minutes is acceptable for an attack.

            There are no 15 minutes there. Do not fantasize.
            Quote: hrych
            We are also forming the defense line of ZGRLS, Volna and Container, and the Sunflowers have already worked on air defense, not that FFP

            This is essentially a coastal zone, with the calculation of gas reserve. In the open ocean, no Sunflower is an assistant.
            Quote: hrych
            If this is a marine Iskander, then consider

            Zircon IS NOT a marine variation of Iskander. Why? Yes, because universal PUs that were created for Onyx, Caliber and Zircon stupidly will not accommodate Iskander. Zircon is a new RCC, completely new.
            Quote: hrych
            And there is nothing for our IBM to do there, let the nuclear submarines and Poseidon solve the shock problems.

            How it all started ... trading routes are going to be protected, strategist? They will block your paths in the open ocean, and what will you do? Sit smoking and suck your paw? Are you going to support allies of your temporary and non-temporal overseas than you are going to support? Do you drive the nuclear submarines? Or do you immediately crash along the coast with Poseidon? Snuggle up to your shores and do not rock the boat you suggest? So then why the hell do we need the navy? (I’m silent about the ocean at all). Sculpt Karakurt and protect the coast. On a fig then all these destroyers, frigates, cruisers and nuclear submarines?
            Are you going to cover the deployment zones of the same nuclear submarines? Just do not write this idiocy about the fact that Sineva and Bulava can be fucked from the pier. Yes, you can ... only then why the hedge garden with the construction of a nuclear submarine in general, if so, can you stupidly PU on the shore to make and shoot from the shore of this Sineva and Bulava?
            About Poseidon it’s generally interesting ... Poseidon is a doomsday weapon. You won’t use it without the world covered with a copper basin. Why Poseidon? And let’s immediately Governor?
            Quote: hrych
            Think rowing galleys.

            It is you who think narrow-mindedly when you talk about turning the Russian Federation not into the ocean power that it was under the USSR, but into a coastal one, like Denmark.
            You recall the story of our fishing vessel, which the Ukrainians captured? Who protected them there ?! And if tankers, dry cargo vessels, and our seiners in all directions begin to be arrested and taken away in the ocean, then tell me? Will you send karakurts to understand?
            Quote: hrych
            Well, for 10 years, we were not at all present in the oceans with your favorite EBN, so what?

            With what vegetable did he become my beloved, dear? Burn him in hell, as well as Marked. 10 years we and the Arctic did not need ... but why now fried rooster pecked do not tell? Without the ocean fleet, there will be no normal development of Russia, just as there will be no trade, production, etc. ...
            And you would have tied up talking nonsense about coastal Russia. It’s worth reading.
            1. hrych 12 November 2019 23: 52 New
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              Quote: NEXUS
              trade routes what are you going to protect, strategist?

              What are the best ways to go? What kind of nonsense? The Russian Federation is a self-sufficient state, especially in energy resources, and our trade and economic paths are land. These are poor Americans, Western Europeans and Rice-eaters without sea supplies will be bent. And to break this submarine is enough for them, there are no ways in the ocean, there are Panama and Suez canals, there is Giblartar and the Strait of Malacca. Blow up a couple of bottlenecks and hello. Any war of superpowers will end in nuclear exchange and there will be nowhere and no reason to carry goods wassat Yes, it is from the pier that ICBMs can be launched, and the patrol route can be limited to your own PLO zone. But not the point. And the submarine needs to be covered at the exit, and then its secrecy and what the hell surface ocean troughs. Demosk? And under the ice of the Arctic, how can a surface bucket help? The near-area fleets and diesel-electric submarines, which are on the SF and ToF, are higher than the roof and are not needed for this damn AUG. Poseidon is not a doomsday weapon, but an absolute weapon against the coastal powers and the enemy fleet. And, I repeat, any clash of superpowers is a doomsday. There will be no naval battle between the United States and the Russian Federation, without a reciprocal counter. There will be, therefore, nothing to rave about. There was an armada to take the Syrian coast, our squadron blocked the way. Either Judgment Day or someone inferior Obama turned gray and lost.
              Quote: NEXUS
              You think narrow-minded ... to recall the history of our fishing vessel, which the Ukrainians captured?
              And for this you need AUG? Captured the Meotid swamp and gloriously wassat You think again junk and cook wassat
              Quote: NEXUS
              Will you send karakurts to understand?

              Yes Yes. AwG send? What nonsense, there are a thousand counter measures. You do not put Svidomo as an example, they took away the Crimea. If anyone starts outrage, you can hit ICBMs. and the White Swan. Soon Poseidon and the Petrel. Neither the United States nor the EU have allowed this to themselves and will not allow it. This is tantamount to war. And you can live algae ragul without this utter rubbish. Nemereno means faster and more efficient. And it’s not Karakurt that can be sent, but Antey and even a volley of cranks.
              Quote: NEXUS
              And you would have tied up talking nonsense about coastal Russia. It’s worth reading.

              It's sick to read you. For Eurasia makes the whole world coastal. We border the EU, AUG is not needed with them. Bordering on the PRC, AUG is not needed with them. We also border the United States and here we do not need an AUG. And now the main thing is for you fanatical AUG fans. The construction of an aircraft carrier fleet will require decades and costs to the detriment of other projects, so the Chinese who are not very far away are led to this. And they have already reached a dead end and cannot be abandoned and continue to no avail. The Americans have been building their carrier fleet for 50 years. In 50 years, star destroyers will fly wassat You are hysterical, so that we engage in anachronism, and one hell in this topic, the Americans will make us. Yes, because., Guess for yourself. And you should never try to catch up. We need to do things and make them lagging behind, in hypersound, in super torpedo, atomic icebreakers, etc. What our Strategists actually did. And there are plenty of ocean vessels left, and there is something to send to the colonial coast. Nakhimov, Peter, Varyag, Moscow, Ustinov. The most powerful cruisers. The BOD is now armed with strike systems, turned, if not into cruisers, so into destroyers. What junks have nothing to disperse? More than 140 satellites for military use, communications, tracking, guidance, positioning. Now from a lousy bulk carrier with a container Caliber, you can drown the enemy and blow up his ports. This is called savvy and stern Russian genius. How to solve the task of disposing of the enemy. And you ... you, as rice-eaters think ... 50 years to catch up with you adversary drinks
            2. hrych 13 November 2019 04: 00 New
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              Quote: NEXUS
              Zircon IS NOT a marine variation of Iskander. Why? Yes, because universal PUs that were created for Onyx, Caliber and Zircon stupidly will not accommodate Iskander.

              Although, of course, Zircon is plainly unknown. There are huge PUs under the Granites and the Volcanoes you noted. Kuzi, Petit with Antei and Varyag, Ustinov and Moscow, respectively. The Iskander rocket is 7,3 m long and 920 mm in diameter. Granite is almost 3 meters longer, and the Volcano is 4 and a half, both are almost 90 cm wide. there will be no problems shoving Iskander, including Antey. On the other hand, mosquito carriers such as Chabonenko, Bora with Samum, 3 destroyers 956, 25 missile boats Lightning, etc., can place Iskander BRs without problems in their launchers. The length of the mosquito is about 9,5 meters, the diameter of the rocket with the wing folded is 1,3 meters.
      4. internal enemy 12 November 2019 21: 44 New
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        Zircon and calibers are interesting how many of them are, and especially interesting the boats were calculated taking into account not running probably
        1. hrych 12 November 2019 22: 08 New
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          Quote: inner enemy
          Zircon and calibers are interesting how many of them are, and especially interesting the boats were calculated taking into account not running probably

          Caliber done enough. They are already spanked like sausages wassat They test Zircon, but the Dagger is already in operation. While you are philosophizing out of 11 Shchuk-B, 5 units underwent overhaul and modernization. 2 is still under repair. Another pair of Pike without B. One in the ranks, one in modernization. There is a third, but in reserve. Of the 8 Anteevs, 5 underwent major repairs and in the ranks, and two under modernization under Onyx and a cloud of Caliber. In the ranks of 4 titanium submarine fighters of which one underwent overhaul, one stands up. Prepare 4 nuclear submarines under Poseidon. Losharik after the accident under repair. By the next year the fleet will have 3 Ash. With the SSBN, everything is in order, including the three brand new Boreas. You should not even discuss them. In addition to the construction of Boreev and Ashen, massive repairs and modernization of the Soviet heritage were carried out. The Soviet legacy is in perfect order and ready for service. Therefore, as an internal enemy, cry, but rather solve the problem once and for all ... drinks
          1. Grits 13 November 2019 06: 53 New
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            Quote: hrych
            and better solve the problem once and for all ...

            Is it possible to shoot yourself? belay
            1. hrych 13 November 2019 10: 02 New
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              Quote: Gritsa
              Is it possible to shoot yourself?

              Rename from Inner Enemy to Inner Friend wassat
  2. Oleg kubanoid 12 November 2019 15: 46 New
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    according to NK we may already be 4. difficult to say .. but our nuclear submarines are the best in the world and this makes itself felt
  3. Earthshaker 12 November 2019 15: 47 New
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    They are cunning, and I have no reason to trust them.
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      Of course they are cunning. The Chinese are very careful. When it will be interesting to be sure for sure that Taiwan needs to bend to the fullest? When will there be three times more ships than now?
      1. Earthshaker 12 November 2019 16: 42 New
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        When they are sure that the answer from the USA will not arrive.
        1. Oleg kubanoid 12 November 2019 16: 52 New
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          what is the answer to a nuclear country? China is the first economy in the world ... no one in the States will die for Taiwan ..
          1. maden.usmanow 12 November 2019 17: 59 New
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            China until the second
            The United States has 21 trillion, China has 14.
            3. India
            4 Japan
            5. Germany
            The first is PPP.
            Russia in PPP, at 6th place, Indonesia at 7th.

            Only now when they talk about GDP, on the official. level and in the press
            they mean not by faculty, but by face value. Where is China, while the second.
  4. Pavel57 12 November 2019 16: 10 New
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    Pictures are especially convincing.
  5. Igorpl 12 November 2019 16: 23 New
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    They lag behind only in the Premier League. The truth is so seriously behind. Although the press of them, in my opinion, is generally better not to read.
  6. Ross xnumx 12 November 2019 17: 28 New
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    At Sohu: Chinese fleet is still inferior to the Russian Navy

    The personnel of the Russian Navy still has better skills and combat training than the Chinese sailors. But, if Russia continues to build the fleet at such a pace and on such projects, then soon Russian sailors will have nothing to go into the ocean.
  7. Old Horseradish 12 November 2019 17: 54 New
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    Chinas lie. With such a shipbuilding base, they can make as many ships in a few months as oligarchic clowns do not rivet in 20 years. It’s just that the Chinas have a strategy for transforming Siberia and the Far East into their backyard of the Chinas empire. "Nobody here really hinders them here, and the oligarchy is happy to hand over everything for about 100 years." As for other normal countries, they naturally oppose Chinese expansion. That is why the Chinas and the ships are clipping with terrible force: they stupidly crush with a number.
  8. Saboteur Holuy 12 November 2019 17: 54 New
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    1. U.S. Navy
    2.Japanese Navy
    3. British Navy
  9. Old26 12 November 2019 18: 36 New
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    Quote: ROSS 42
    At Sohu: Chinese fleet is still inferior to the Russian Navy

    In sum - perhaps. In individual class ships, they have already overtaken us.
    • There are 42 units of diesel boats on the move, of which 38 are equipped with cruise missiles, with approximately 25 missiles similar to our Caliber
    • They have about 45-47 landing ships
    • From 26 to 31 destroyers, about 61 frigates, about 40 corvettes (about 60 planned), more than a hundred missile boats.
    And their rockets are gradually being pulled to ours. More than half of diesel engines are equipped with rockets-analogues of our "Caliber". The destroyers of projects 052 and 055 of all modifications are also equipped with Caliber (YJ-18) clone missiles with a range of approximately 550 km. The old Soviet “Mosquitoes” on four project 956 destroyers are being replaced with new YJ-12s with a range of 400 km and speeds of up to 4M. On boats and destroyers, as an option, the installation of YJ-100 missiles with a range of 1000 km is possible.
    So not everything is clear
  10. LAWNER 12 November 2019 20: 20 New
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    Nonsense ... A marvel-miracle of naval battles ... 100 thousand fishing boats will make China's coastline insurmountable .. About fighting on land is another story
    1. maidan.izrailovich 13 November 2019 04: 57 New
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      .... 100 thousand fishing boats ....


      Several years ago, the cargo ship river-sea "Alexander" sank in the Sea of ​​Japan. Cause? At night he was not noticed from the Korean container ship undergoing sea trials. An empty container ship simply moved a low-seated (in cargo) vessel in the area of ​​the last hold before setting up. The missing superstructure sank almost instantly. The container ship went further. https://rg.ru/2011/02/10/reg-dvostok/udar.html
      So “Alexander” is still a bulk carrier (albeit not a big one). And he is iron. And you're talking about "100 thousand fishing boats." For large vessels, this is just floating trash.
  11. maidan.izrailovich 13 November 2019 04: 45 New
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    The Chinese fleet will always be inferior to the Russian fleet. Even if it surpasses it quantitatively, and even qualitatively.
    Because....
    .... in the Chinese fleet there were and will not be Ushakovs, Varyags, Sinop battles, landing on Corfu, and much more.