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Kiev and Moscow commented on Nazarbayev’s idea of ​​negotiations between Putin and Zelensky

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The Verkhovna Rada deputy from the “Servant of the People” faction Irina Vereshchuk appreciated the wish of the ex-president of Kazakhstan, Nursultan Nazarbayev, to hold a personal meeting of the leaders of Russia and Ukraine in the capital of the Republic of Kazakhstan - in the city of Nur-Sultan.


According to media reports, Vereshchuk announced on the sidelines that for such a meeting of heads of state it is necessary to clearly understand the purpose of this. In addition, she told reporters that Nazarbayev has repeatedly proposed this format to the former President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko. According to the deputy, Nazarbayev wanted to “commit himself” using his authority and personal contacts with Russian President Vladimir Putin and former Ukrainian leaders.

Ms. Vereshchuk also recalled that President Vladimir Zelensky himself has not yet given an official response to these proposals. And the very change of the place of negotiations without apparent need hardly makes any reasonable sense.

The head of the press service of Russian President Vladimir Putin Dmitry Peskov also commented on the proposal to hold a meeting in Kazakhstan with Vladimir Zelensky. According to him, the Russian leader advocates resuscitation of relations with Kiev, however, it is impossible to do this without mutual movement, and “meeting for the sake of meeting” will not be of particular benefit.

Currently, the peace process in the Donbass is being mediated by Belarus, which is why it is traditionally called Minsk.
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  1. Spartanez300
    Spartanez300 12 November 2019 14: 13
    +3
    These negotiations are unlikely to lead to anything constructive, because the true masters of the current Ukropia will not allow Zelensky to come closer to Russia. Yes, he himself does not strive for this, and therefore he will only scribble and complain about Russia in the negotiations.
    1. Shurik70
      Shurik70 12 November 2019 14: 19
      +4
      If in Kiev and Moscow they say the same thing for some reason, then this position will not be changed.
      laughing
      1. Lexus
        Lexus 12 November 2019 14: 30
        +12
        Elbasy was bored in retirement and decided to remind himself. This has nothing to do with the matter.
        1. cniza
          cniza 12 November 2019 15: 09
          +5
          Trying to seize the initiative from the father ...
      2. Proxima
        Proxima 12 November 2019 14: 47
        +7
        Thanks of course to Nazarbayev, it makes sense to meet a clown who hasn’t come out of the image yet, who does not solve anything, who does not control the situation. And even if the parties come to some kind of agreement - their price is zero! Putin knows this very well, he will only waste time in vain. It’s about how to take a homeless person by the breech and sign an agreement with him to eliminate medium and short-range missiles. what
      3. NF68
        NF68 12 November 2019 17: 35
        0
        Quote: Shurik70
        If in Kiev and Moscow they say the same thing for some reason, then this position will not be changed. laughing


        To speak a little. It is necessary that in Kiev they could really do something, but with this, not everything is clear.
    2. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 12 November 2019 14: 51
      +2
      Quote: Spartanez300
      because the true masters of the current Ukropia will not allow Zelensky to come closer to Russia
      Trump, even at a meeting with Zelensky in plain text, said to him, "Get ready, Vovik and blow to Vladimir," which drove Ze into anguish and confusion .. Here Nazarbayev decided to build a bridge, because Ze cannot apply for a meeting, more will be spat on radicals , and VVP will not offer a meeting due to the presence of much stronger positions.
  2. 210ox
    210ox 12 November 2019 14: 17
    +6
    There is no change of place does not matter. And the point is to talk with an empty place, albeit a speaker ..
    1. iConst
      iConst 12 November 2019 14: 22
      +3
      Quote: 210ox
      And the point is to talk with an empty place, albeit a speaker ..

      I watched him communicate and perform - just like on stage. Paphos and clowning.
      1. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter 12 November 2019 14: 24
        +11
        hi
        And I remembered the expression on his face when Trump put in a piston about the need for dialogue with Moscow. lol
        1. Laksamana besar
          Laksamana besar 12 November 2019 14: 29
          +5

          .............................
          1. cniza
            cniza 12 November 2019 15: 10
            +3
            Quote: bouncyhunter
            hi
            And I remembered the expression on his face when Trump put in a piston about the need for dialogue with Moscow. lol


            He realized that he was doing the wrong thing. yes
      2. Andrei Nikolaevich
        Andrei Nikolaevich 12 November 2019 15: 14
        -1
        iConst, you looked in the wrong place. Watch a movie where this miracle of Napoleon plays. I will see him in the news, I immediately remember the film. In general, I perceive this miracle as ,, Napoleon ,, -) Well, I can’t imagine him as the head of state.
    2. RideMaster
      RideMaster 12 November 2019 14: 28
      -2
      Well, why then take it so seriously.
      To such a serious one that they will explain how important they are.
      I understand that ours create the image of a world peacekeeper as opposed to the United States. But sometimes it seems like an unnecessary sharing.
  3. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 12 November 2019 14: 19
    +1
    What can we talk about with a jester? Zelensky is zero and does not solve anything. The meaning of such ,, negotiations ,,?
    1. aquarius580
      aquarius580 12 November 2019 14: 29
      +1
      According to the Constitution of Ukraine, foreign policy is the prerogative of the President
      1. Andrei Nikolaevich
        Andrei Nikolaevich 12 November 2019 14: 57
        +2
        So, after all, the president, and not the clown. Call Maslyukov- let them communicate. This is his level. And not higher ..
        1. cniza
          cniza 12 November 2019 15: 11
          +2
          Maslyukov is the real President, but his club ...
    2. Tiksi-3
      Tiksi-3 12 November 2019 14: 54
      0
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      The meaning of such ,, negotiations ,,?

      in order to convey this to him live .... although I don’t see the same meaning
  4. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 12 November 2019 14: 23
    +3
    Vereshchuk announced on the sidelines that for such a meeting of heads of state it is necessary to clearly understand the purpose of this.
    The Russian leader advocates resuscitation of relations with Kiev, however, this cannot be done without mutual movement, and “meeting for the sake of meeting” will not be of particular benefit.
    I have to agree. All for all good and against all bad. But the specific content is where, the boy Green doesn’t seem to have matured, so why will the GDP shake it? request Nursultan fusses ..... but a false start.
  5. Amateur
    Amateur 12 November 2019 14: 30
    0
    Elbasy seems to have retired, but the desire to show off still remained.
  6. Sapsan136
    Sapsan136 12 November 2019 14: 31
    +1
    We have already spoken ... Bandera and I have nothing more to talk about ... They only understand the language of power!
  7. SKIF555
    SKIF555 12 November 2019 14: 42
    +1
    No matter how, when the capital of INDEPENDENT AND SOVEREIGN KAZAKHSTAN Nur-Sultan will not become back Astana, Akmola and especially Tselinograd ................ continue to continue? They pinned us - we disagree. Around the Chinese. Hello Uyghur.
  8. faterdom
    faterdom 12 November 2019 14: 42
    0
    Why, over there, Father, willy-nilly, forced all Western leaders many times a day to mumble the mantra "Minsk-Minsk-Minsk ..." They would have forgotten where this Minsk is, but now, now it is not only a city or the capital of Belarus, it is a spell, a prayer, into which everyone puts their understanding.
    But the Elbasy would certainly like "Nursultan-Nursultan ..."
    1. Vita vko
      Vita vko 12 November 2019 14: 58
      +2
      Quote: faterdom
      The old man, willy-nilly, made all Western leaders mumble the mantra "Minsk-Minsk-Minsk ... many times a day ...

      He has absolutely nothing to do with it. The Minsk agreement was reached in the Norman Four and approved by the Resolution of the UN Security Council. Even Trump cannot cling to this four, not like Lukashenko and Nazarbayev. But the most important signature was put by Porashchenko after the defeat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Ilovaisk and the threat of the capture of Mariupol. In order to start talking with the Ukrainian junta, the military-political situation for Ukraine should be similar.
  9. Baloo
    Baloo 12 November 2019 14: 53
    +1
    Does Zuzy have real power?
  10. prior
    prior 12 November 2019 15: 31
    +1
    Is Putin missing Russian comedians ?!
  11. Aliken
    Aliken 12 November 2019 15: 32
    +1
    Nazarbayev sneezing something in Russia, that in Ukraine, he is flattered by attention to his person, when they say his name in the context of the first world news, you might think the whole snag in the meeting place.
  12. Igorpl
    Igorpl 12 November 2019 16: 11
    +1
    It makes no sense to rearrange beds.
  13. Ros 56
    Ros 56 12 November 2019 17: 23
    0
    But why should Nazarbayev be haunted by the laurels of a peacemaker? All the same, he won’t get the Nobel Prize, it is only for the state presidents and our traitors like the spotted one.
  14. frizzy
    frizzy 12 November 2019 20: 37
    0
    How not to calm down the old grunt.
  15. Servisinzhener
    Servisinzhener 12 November 2019 21: 24
    0
    This meeting will be a waste of time. Because it will be impossible to agree on anything with Zelensky. This is evident from the sluggish breeding of the parties in the Donbas.
    Zelensky will broadcast the same position of the "raguli" and behave as if the Armed Forces of Ukraine have already taken Moscow.
  16. faterdom
    faterdom 12 November 2019 22: 28
    0
    Quote: Vita VKO
    He has absolutely nothing to do with it.

    How not to do with it? He proposed a platform for negotiations at both critical moments, when the APU was defeated. And the parties agreed to meet in Minsk. But not the Norman format, namely the parties - Kiev - and the DPR with LPR.
    I do not call any of them Ukraine, for they are all "self-proclaimed", as our announcers say about the republics, but they do not talk about Kiev ... But in vain. After the coup, the Kiev "Ukraine" is exactly the same self-proclaimed. And we just shouldn't have recognized this as a state and power.
  17. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 12 November 2019 23: 30
    0
    Any action should be preceded by an IDEA. TARGET. TASKS. What will Putin crush and this piano egg? What should the conversation be about? About the situation in Ukraine? Let him steers in his room. To rumble again about the withdrawal of Russian troops? And V.V. I have to explain this nonsense for the millionth time that we are not there. Discuss gas transit?
    It is already clearly said, remove all idiotic claims, there will be a conversation. What, Zu will defiantly tear all his discontent with Russia, and swear eternal friendship?
    And how will he return to Kiev? Ask in Rostov, next to the deposed Yanukovych settle? Do we need him? If there were some relations with the former, then with this clown we have nothing and nothing. It would be better if Nazarbayev did not get under his feet, his time had already passed.
  18. Chingachguk
    Chingachguk 13 November 2019 08: 32
    0
    And what about Putin talking with Zelensky? Unless Zelensky will come with a couple of the same comedians - clowns as himself, and will do a theatrical performance on stage for the Norman format. Then the loss of time, at least somehow it can be justified.
  19. iouris
    iouris 13 November 2019 15: 31
    0
    Well, yes, Trump, Nazarbayev, etc. - are just minor political figures of the "Age of Ze".